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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Mister mo Kelly, here ky if I am six forty
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and let me tell
you off the top, get you ready. I'm in the
spirit of giving. I think I'm gonna give away one. No, no, two?
Well how about three?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Better yet four? A family four pack tonight on Later
with mo Kelly. We're going to be giving away a
family four pack to Disney on Ice Magic in the
Stars opening night at the Long Beach Arena, January two
of twenty twenty five. I was only going to give
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away a pair of tickets in twelve. I said no, no, no, no.
Our audience is used to family four packs. So I said, Okay,
damn it, I'll give away four, but grudgingly. So We're
gonna give away a family four pack tonight to Disney
on Ice Magic in the Stars. I'm not going to
tell you when it is, but it'll probably be not
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this segment later in the program. Oh, we missed a stabbing.
We missed a stabbing on Metro. We got to go
back and get that stabbing late Tuesday night on Metro
Universal City. We'll tell you about that because we have
to let you know all the time. Someone gets attacked,
someone gets shot, someone gets robbed, someone gets assaulted on Metro.
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And last night we had this discussion. Actually, we let
off the show yesterday in part talking about Beyond My Dreams,
talking about how Governor Newsom had declared a state of
emergency regarding avian flu bird flu, and we got into
the discussion eventually talking about how it can be passed
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from animal to human, pet to human. Now we have
word that two cats have died from suspected bird flu
and it's traced to raw milk.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh, here we.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Go, here we go, raw milk, just because you don't
want to pay for pasteurization. You're just drinking it out
there raw. It's like having sex without a condom or
something like that. And more cats appear to be infected
with H five N one bird flu. So it's going
from animals to house pets and you know where it
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goes after that. Unfortunately, we'll talk about that a little
bit more this hour. And if you're a nerd like me,
I don't know about Mark Bronner. I don't know if
he's in a Superman, but I know Twalla's in a Superman.
Did you see the new trailer for James Guns Superman.
It dropped at six am this morning, and I would say,
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by and large it's just about universally well received. But
by and large I didn't say everyone loved it. But
I'm saying, for all the hype which preceded it, it's
off to a really, really good start, and it's reminiscent
of the Christopher Reeves Superman. It borrowed a lot at
it this point, I would say it's the front runner
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for the biggest movie of the year in twenty twenty five.
It's the front runner. Let me say, first, good evening
to Mark Runner. I always like to say hello to him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Hi, Mark, Hello Mo. And I'm one hundred percent in
on that Superman trailer.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oh you are?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I thought you'd had some reticence you weren't. You know
you do not want to be all in from the beginning.
Now you had me at Crypto.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
They have Crypto the superg right front and center.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Let's start there real quick, because we're gonna get into
it later. But when I saw Crypto, I was wondering,
are they letting us know too much too soon? Too early?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I don't think they can afford to hold anything back.
They better put out the good stuff right now, especially
after the Flash debacle and well everything.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I never thought I would see Crypto on the big screen. Well,
they had a really good Crypto in the Titans show.
Yes he did, Yes they did. But I'm saying as
far as the big screen, for me, that was a
huge and heavy lift. Because but I guess you know,
James gunna make it very clear this is not an
origin movie, so it doesn't have to explain anything. We
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all know who Crypto is. We know obviously came from Krypton.
We also know that Supergirl is in the movie, so
they're gonna be some Kryptonians littered in this movie.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
What's not to love about Crypto the super Dog? I mean,
come on, well, I love just about everything about this trailer.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I love how it is an homage in many respects
to Christopher Reeve in nineteen seventy eight. I love that
it's a return to a stylized version of superhero movies
that we have not seen in quite some time. I
thought some of the movies were taking itself way too seriously,
way too seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Zach's well, Superman is the last character on Earth you
want to go dark with, and that's exactly what Snyder
did and why he should never be in charge of
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Again. I see, I'm not anti Zack Snyder.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I just that I don't think his vision meshed with
the idea of Superman. It was a different take, but
I didn't hate it. Now that Rebel Moon stuff, I
hate it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh wow, that was just idiotic. But I miss Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I think he was a terrific Superman in really mediocre movies.
But boy, this one really looks good.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And I don't know who said it, maybe with some
of them, some of us in our text group. It's
one thing to play Superman, but it looks like korn
Swat can play Clark Kent and that's really important.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And we talked about it with Batman.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's one thing to be a good Batman, but can
you be a good Bruce Wayne, And I think that
was one of the problems with this most recent movie,
the Batman Batman. That character was fine in the movie,
Bruce Wayne not so much. You have to be able
to buy into both of them.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that, And it kind of
goes back to the old Jewels fight for argument that
Superman is his real identity and Clark Kent is the disguise.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hmmm, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I would I would debate that, if only because Superman
is more naturally who he is. But Clark Kent is
the person that he's lived as for all of his
natural Earth life.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
That's his deep cover identity.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
His real identity is the the tights and the and
the trunks.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Did you know, Kate, they brought back the trunks? Hell?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah I did. Yeah, it's Superman. You got to have
the trunks. That's it's hard for me to get with that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
People forget that superhero costumes with the trunks and the
capes were taken from old school pro wrestlers.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, why not? Now? I get that.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I get that if that's the difficulty that James Gunn
will have trying to blend the old with the new.
And I think of this world in the social media age,
what would that how would that be perceived? We have
the guy running around in tights and trunks.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
We got to get past these superhero movies that act
like they're ashamed that they came from comic books. I
think it's great that people are gonna have this to
look forward to because Superman is also all about decency
and kindness, and we are starved for that right now
and have been.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
You know what, wait till they find out what else
he's for. They're gonna call him woke as hell Superman woke,
you don't say, but they don't know the character. They
just don't know. When he's fighting the Klan or whatever
that's Superman.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Next, they'll call Jesus woke. And this just in Superman
is kind of comic book Jesus, sh keep it to
yourself because if they find out, it might ruin their.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Own they might cancel Superman. Oh that is coming. Oh twala,
let them know that is coming. It's on its way.
If I have any inclination of what James Gunn is
going to do with this version of Superman.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Oh, they're going to be upset.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
They're gonna be really upset because Lex Luthor. Let's be honest,
that's Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I think there would be a lot of Lex Luthor
fans in the United States and the year of twenty
twenty four if they know Superman.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The parallels are undeniable, no question, from the technology, from
the money.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Except Lex author is smart.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
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Speaker 4 (08:35):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1 (08:41):
Last night, I was trying to give Metro credits, like
so much time had gone by and no one was stabbed, killed, raped, assaulted.
Nothing super bad had been happening on a Metro bus.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Nothing had been happening.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
On a Metro train, nothing had been happening on a
Metro platform.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
To be there was one which slipped through the cracks.
A man was stabbed.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
In the back in the back on Universal City Metro platform.
Someone just standing on a platform. Could have been you,
could have been me, could have been Robin, who's in
for Stephan.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Could have been Mark Ronner.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Could have been any of us get stabbed in a back.
The statute was reported around nine to forty five pm
Tuesday night. According to LAPD, officers responded to the station
regarding an assault with a deadly weapon call where they
found the victim quote. Metro's focus is on ensuring our
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system is safe for our customers and employees, even as
our county works to address the drug addiction and untreated
mental illness challenges that result in incidents like the one
on our system last night. Metro spokesman Jose Ubaldo, who
has yet to reach out to me and say when
he's going to come on the show goes on. We
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value the continued partnership with our city and county partners
in ensuring the Metro system can get the people of
Los Angeles where they need to go and safely close.
Quote twelve, I don't know if you caught that, but
I don't know if you caught how they wanted to
throw in an excuse in an explanation of what happened.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yea, you know the drug addiction and.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Untreated mental illness challenges that result in other words, it's
a result of that, and you're saying it's beyond our
control and we can't control mental illness, we can't prevent
a drug addiction, and then the actions of those who
are under the influence.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
What is it you want us to do? I caught that.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I hope you did as well, because the bottom line
is either it's safe or it's not safe. Nobody really
wants to hear about well, this is why it's so
difficult to make it safe, or these are the obstacles
that are confronting us, or these are the things that
we can't find a way to deal with. If I'm
on a Metro platform, I'm not going to stand on
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there and say, well, you know, someone might be addicted
and I'm taking my own life in my hands, or well,
you know, someone might be dealing with untreated mental illness.
It's not Metro's fault why they can't provide a space
and place in which there is some.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Degree of security. But here we are.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's why I say I can't, in good conscience recommend
Metro for anyone if I said that, there was a
decent chance of you getting stabbed in the back. It's
not like you're provoking someone. It's not like you're in
an altercation with someone. You're just there and you're not
paying attention. Someone stabs you in the back. Maybe they
are drug addicted, maybe they are suffered from some form
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of mental illness.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Maybe it's some sort of combination of both.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But that should not have to be at the forefront
of your mind or even in the back of your mind,
just because you're coming home from work, maybe you are
on the phone, Because when you're on the Metro platform,
that's probably the best time for you to use your phone,
because not all places on the system where you get
any type of phone service, they haven't worked that out yet.
It shouldn't have to be a life or death decision
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to get on the Metro. And I'm not exaggerating because
I heard from various listeners going back to even Pastathon
who said, yes, it is that dangerous.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
In fact, you are under selling it.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
How many incidents which actually happen from day to day
to day.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You shouldn't have to worry about getting stabbed.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And mind you, mind you, this is in full knowledge
of what has happened prior to this moment.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
It's not like this.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
There's this rash of incidents that's come out of nowhere,
and it's caught everyone by surprise. We don't know how
to respond to it. Now, we should be pretty accustomed
to the idea of someone being harmed through no fault
or decision of their own other than going on a
Metro platform. We don't know if this person was even
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at the end of their route or at the beginning
of their route. For all we know the met Universal
cities that basically at the end of the line, they
probably since they're on the platform, they'll probably just beginning
their metro journey. It shouldn't have to be like this.
It shouldn't have to be like this. Now, would it
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have been different if there was a Metro police.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Officer on that platform.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I happened to believe it would be, because whereas a
person like you and me, we're not always of the
mindset of looking for threats. I tend to believe that
law enforcement they are because that's kind of the job,
that's what they're there to do. I know that I
would be safer in a situation like that if there
was a dedicated officer on that platform. Why because the
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people are most exposed at that point. Less so on
a train because presumably you have to get past the turnstile,
what have you, and they're more cameras. But if you're
on a metro platform, and I say this because I
know what they what they're like, and I would ride
to Universal City all the time, you're exposed. And like
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I say, when you go to a gas station, you
should always have your head on a swivel. That is
true of a metro platform. But I'm not going to
blame the victim. I'm not going to blame the person
for simply walking onto a platform and getting stabbed in
the back. This is nine forty five. It's not three
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in the morning. It is not three in the morning.
Nine five is not all that late. It's not the
time where it's like, well, you shouldn't have been out there,
you know, you know, it's almost like blaming the victim
in the sense of, well, you shouldn't warn that that skirt.
If you didn't wear that skirt, then that sexual assaut
wouldn't happen. Now, No, no, we're not going to blame the
victim here. This is obviously an unsafe environment it is,
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and more people going to be stabbed, more people going
to be hurt, and uh, maybe I was lulled into
a false sense security because we went a period of
time without having to report another assault.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Looking at the Metro system and at least their existing
major platforms, it says there are only one hundred and
two stations serving the six major lines right now. Eleven
of these stations are at the end of lines and
so forth and so on, But there aren't one hundred
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and two officers that could be dedicated. Hell, two hundred
and two make it a pair to each one of
these days. So at least you have at all of
the major ports, all the major stops, and all of that,
at least two dedicated officers in a perfect world, and
that wouldn't even be a perfect solution, but in a
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perfect world, yeah, you would want that.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Because from what we see right now, someone gets stabbed,
then a third party has to call the police or
call nine one one to get help.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, I can get the stops in between, but at
least on the madd just to say, hey, where this
ends and where this begins, there will be officers there,
no matter what, two hundred and two stations.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Again, when it goes back to the statement which says, quote,
we value the continued partnership with our city and county
partners in ensuring the metro system can get the people
of Los Angeles where they need to go and safely.
You are spitting in the face of the person who
just got stabbed. Don't tell us thank you for the partnership.
Tell us what you're actually going to do, which is different,
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which is going to increase that safety quotion, because as
far as I'm concerned, it's just as quote unquote unsafe
today as it was the night in which the person
was stabbed. What's different today? Why should someone feel any
more safe today? Why is it less likely someone's going
to get stabbed in the back today as opposed to
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Tuesday night. These are the questions I would ask, but
I'm not going to be able to get asked them
because no one will actually come on here and come
and answer to you, the general public, as to what
is being done, what needs to be done, what they're
trying to do, what is between what they're doing right
now and what they hope to do. These are very
basic questions. How many more people need to be stabbed?
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How many more people, let's be honest, need to die.
It's not like no one's died. How many more people
need to die before we can have a serious conversation
about what needs to get better?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Like right now?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I know they voted on having a metro police force.
Well that's still years away. How many people are going
to die between now and then. How many people are
going to be stabbed? How many people are going to
be assaulted? I don't know, but more than zero.
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Speaker 1 (17:52):
Last time we told you about Governor Gavin Newsom declaring
a state of emergency regarding avian flu bird flu here
in California, in other words, preparing the state if need be,
to reallocate resources to deal with it, if there should
be an outbreak, And if you're wondering how close are
we to that or the amount of infections, there have
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been a handful of infections, people who have been infected,
and up until this point, these are people who have
been dealing with cattle other animals who have been infected.
But there's also the possibility that it can move over
to different segments of the population. For example, two cats
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have died recently from suspected bird flu and it was
traced to raw milk here in California, and we know
that there is this trend, an increasing trend of people
wanting to consume raw milk. The Department of Health issued
or release today saying the two cats that died consume
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milk from Raw Farm after the company voluntarily recalled all
raw milk and cream products earlier this month. The recall
for the products was earlier in December. We're almost the
last third of December, so there is a delay in
all this.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Even though they've recalled the products.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
People have still purchased products having fully consumed them.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And in this case it seems that people consume them.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Excuse me, gave them to pet cats and the cats
consumed them.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
After consuming the raw milk, the cats reportedly showed onset
symptoms of lack of appetite, fever, and neurologic signs. In fact,
the cats died after severe worsening of their illness and
subsequently tested positive for influenza, a a rare result in cats.
And we had talked about this yesterday. How if it's
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already in the pet population, it's that much closer to
the human population of you and I and everyone else. Now,
I'm not going to consume raw milk, and knowing in
my household may consume raw mel milk. But there is
a possibility a pet to pet transfer. For example, I often,
or I should say, my wife and now we take
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our pets to like a dog hotel. If my wife
and I are out of town, take it to a
dog hotel. They're interacting with another twenty five thirty dogs
for two or three days or however long we're gone.
So you don't know it only takes one to get
into that population, and then you have a situation which
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is beyond our control. And in the course pets interact
with family members. Now we don't know as far as
the cats which died, of the status of the household itself.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
That's something we may know in the coming days.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I look at it as if we know for a
fact it can be spread by way of coyotes. We
know there's a coyote plague here in the south Land.
If they can get to from coyotes, who all these
people who want to leave food out in the backyards
and all that for the coyotes and attracting these animals.
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It just takes one infected coyote to leave from droppings
in your backyard. Your dog goes out and sniffs it.
Next thing you know, you're like Camara, fighto and files
licking you in the face because it's all fun and
games with your dog until you've caught it from your dog.
You may have one of these cats. What if these
one of these cats was an outdoor cat and they
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went outside into your yard and use the restroom. Now
you're out there, your dog is out there. That's how
it can transfer easily. My next door neighbor has an
outdoor cat.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
They have a like you have a doggy door, they
have a cat door in their house and the cat
comes and goes.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And you see my ring device in Twala.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You know, I see the cat every single day in
that field behind my house, where the coyotes roam and
the cat roams is something which is actually very serious
for me, something I have to be very concerned with.
Now the coyotes are not getting into the backyard, but
I still have to be mindful they could be roaming
around in the development more general.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
In the development. It's not about them necessarily even coming
to your backyard. It's them being in the area in
the vicinity. They're leaving their droppings. What other animals may
get around that may transfer that over to the cat
the cat, the cat can if that if your next
door neighbor is cat is drinking raw milk and just
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comes along in your backyard and use the restroom. Benson,
O'Reilly curious dogs that go, what is this?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What is this? This is my poop? Ridley? Is this
your poop? No, Benson, is yours?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
No?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
They sniff it and next thing you know, they can
easily contract it that way.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yep. This is going to be something that we're going
to have to deal with. Now, people to say.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Ah, you're just overreacting, You're you know, you're a fearmonger.
You just want to have something to talk about. No,
this is something we're going to have to deal with.
I mean, I know someone listening right now as a
cat owner. I know someone listening is a pet owner.
I know someone listening right now now consumes raw milk.
I know all three things are true. This is something
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we're going to have to deal with. If anything, we
need to be aware in advance and be mindful in advance,
and hopefully we won't be so stuck in our ways
and determine to politicize everything where we won't make the
same mistakes. But I don't have much faith in that
because history recent history. That's all I'll say about that.
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It's later with mo Kelly. Do not go anywhere I
have not forgotten coming up later this show. I can't
say it's going to be right now. Well, should we
open the phones right now? Should we do it right now?
Should we give away these four tickets to family four
pack to Disney on Ice, Magic and the Stars The
Great Show which is coming up, specifically the Long Beach
Arena on January second. Should we give away the family
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four pack now or should we make them wait just
a little bit more?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
It's too early. Well, maybe I should open the phones
call our number. Nah, can't. If I am Sex forty,
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Speaker 1 (24:06):
And I can't speak for you, but I know with me,
the holidays are not necessarily a time in which I
have more time. I'm not in school, so I can't
say there's a winter break coming. It's not like I
work in an industry where it just everything shuts down
for two weeks. If it does for you, God bless you.
It doesn't work that way in radio. Usually I'm more
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busy during the holidays, but I am intentional with making
time to watch some of my favorite TV shows. I
was able to take in Rudolph Redno's Reindeer last night,
streamed it off one of the services. But I try
to do that to find some equilibrium, so it's not
just all work during the holiday season. And also we've
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been talking about some of the shows and movies that
I've been able to see on Netflix and beyond. I
saw two things. Actually I saw one thing today and
I've been finishing up a series. First, I saw the
movie Red One. It was in theaters for about four weeks,
stars The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, and also Chris Evans of
Captain America fame, and I didn't want to see it
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in theaters. I saw the promo and I thought like,
I don't know if this movie is for me. It
seems kind of silly and I'm not so sure that
I want to spend my money and my time in
a theater to see it. And it didn't stay in
theaters long. I want to say, it's maybe three weeks
four at the most. And now it's available on Amazon
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Prime and it has only one commercial at the beginning,
because they let you know this is offered free of
commercials thanks to Capital One.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
So the ad did its job. I remember it was
Capital One.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Then you get to watch the movie uninterrupted, and if
you haven't seen it, the premise is that Santa is
both real and has been abducted by some mysterious nefarious force,
and Chris Evans is this super uber hacker shady dark
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Web person who can find anyone. Dwayne Johnson plays this
guy named Callum who sits at the right hand of
Superman A Superman Santa and protects him. He's the head
of security for Santa. That's the premise of the movie,
and there are moments where it's unclear whether it's supposed
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to be for kids or adults. There's profanity in there
which makes you think it's for adults.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
There are bikini.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Clad women wearing thongs with their booty's jiggling, which makes
you think, okay, this is for adults. And then you
keep watching it and it forgets that you just showed
some booties jiggling. And they want to make it almost
like it's telling a heartwarming story about the importance of
Christmas and kids being on the nice list the naughty list,
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and how Christmas keeps everyone young and yeah, yeah, yeah,
blah blah blah. It seems like he couldn't make up
his mind. Long story short, It was fine for streaming.
I think I would have hated it if I paid
twenty five dollars ticket and food and wasted, not wasted,
but use a good two and a half hours of
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my time, not counting driving to and from the theater.
It's a solid four and a half five out of ten,
So go ahead and see Red One, just don't see
it in theaters. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't really
great either. What have you been watching lately?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Mark?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I think instead of watching Red One, I'll just hit
myself in the head with a rubber mallet a few times. Look,
it had the dumbest trailer of anything I'd seen in
a while, so I appreciate you being the guinea pig
on this one. You had mentioned that you were watching
The Agency, and we talked about this a week or
two ago. That is the remake, the American remake on
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what is it show time of a French show called
The Bureau, and I have just watched the first season
of the Bureau, and I've got to tell you, it's
one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It's right up there with The Wire.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's smart, it's tense, and I watched the first episode
of The Agency and it's pretty much a scene for
seeing remake. I believe they may change some things down
the line, and you're much further ahead than I am.
But now that I've gotten one scene at one season
of The Bureau under my belt. Now I'm going to
go back to the Agency and get caught up on that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
For those who don't know, the Agency is obviously about
the CIA, and Michael Fassbender is an operative who's been
out in a while, as they say, for a good
six years, and now he's re entering society to work
more as an analyst as opposed to a field agent.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
He has a.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Daughter who kind of knows what he does, but doesn't
really really understand the seriousness and the danger of what
he does. And it is a show within a show.
He Michael Fassbender's character, Martin, is trying to repair his
relationship with his daughter because he hasn't been as her
life for a good six plus years. He's going through
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all of this psychological evaluation to see if he's fit
to re enter the agency as an analyst and also
re enter society. But it's not a spy thriller in
the way that we usually would think of it. It's
more psychological and it's more about the subtleties of what
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the Agency does to turn people and to manipulate world events.
Has a great cast, Michael Fassbender, Jeffrey Wright, Jodi Turner Smith.
There's some really solid performances. But if you're gonna watch
it thinking it's like the Born Identity or James Bond movie,
you'd be sorely disappointed.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, it's much closer to the John lecare A end
of things. But that said, it's remarkably tense. Both versions
are the Agency and the Bureau. But I have a feeling,
based on what I've seen clips that I've seen, that
the Agency might kind of americanize things up a little bit,
maybe a little bit more stylized in its presentation, just slightly.
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Although the French version is just terrific. I couldn't point
to a single thing wrong with it if you held
a gun to my head.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh and I forgot Richerd Gear, isn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And Richerd Gear plays the CIA station chief and he's
kind of an a hole kind of but it's nice
to see him as he's aging in real life adopt
different roles. He's the elder Statesman in this show, and
it's nice to see him back on the screen as
it is.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Since you're I think maybe five episodes further than I am,
is there violence I can look forward to bits.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And pieces more and flashbacks than anything.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, it's all about manipulation in the bureau. But that
doesn't mean that it's not an exciting show. I mean
it'll have you jumping out of your skin. Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
There are some really really tense moments where you don't
know if this is going to become violent, and maybe
before the end of the season you get all the violence,
but it's not the type of cinematic violence that you
are accustomed to when you're thinking of movies, like if
you're watching maybe The Night Agent or any of these
other Citadel, these other spy thrillers jumping from planes to trains,
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there's none of that.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Citadel's terrible, and The Night Agent's entertaining, but it's just
kind of a rehash of twenty four. Really enjoyable though, Yeah, yeah,
and there's an audience for that.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But if you go into the Agency expecting it to
be that, you're not gonna like it. It's much more cerebral.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
I guess you could call it cerebral, but it struck
me as ringing truer than any of the Hollywood phonier
spy shows. I spent some time last night watching a
documentary with John Kuriaku, the real life CIA agent who
spent two and a half years in jail for blowing
out the torture in Abu Grave.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I believe it was.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
And he went down the list of clips from spy
movies and he was like, Yeah, this one's realistic, This
is like a four out of ten. This one's garbage.
Blah blah blah blah. I like watching that kind of stuff,
And to me, the Bureau, if not the Agency, that
would have been maybe a nine on the realism scale.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
That's why I think I'm drawn to it because it
gives me, in my mind, a truer sense of.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Spycraft.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
How they will work on a potential subject, to turn
them over months, over years, the sacrifices which are made
to embed yourself or gain the trust of someone, and
the types of relationships you have to form.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
It's tense and it's terrifying when you consider. Okay, so
the Bureau took place in the undercover part of it
took place in Damascus, Syria. I didn't know that much
about that country, to be really honest with you, So
I found it really enlightening to watch this season the agency.
He went under cover in Africa. I forget where in Africa.
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Yeah it was it was a few countries. I can't
remember where, but it's there are a number of countries.
It's part of the Soudan conflict. That's all I can remember. Yeah,
so that part's real interesting. And try to imagine, Like
so when I was going through my processing, when I
was a much younger man, they if there are four
directorates in the CIA, and the clandestine one is the
one that I was meant to go into, and they
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send you where you speak language.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Don't run past that reset for everyone how you were
on your path in the CIA.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Really briefly, I got recruited out of college and I
went through all the way to the end and I
wound up not doing it. But they send you where
you speak the language, and I only spoke French. And
I know they sure as hell weren't going to send
me to Paris. It was probably gonna be sady, someplace
like Gabon, Africa or someplace. And I started to get
an overwhelming fear that I just walk around a corner,
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somebody'd put a black bag over my head and I'd
get shoved into a van and nobody'd ever seen me again.
This is that kind of show, and it's really good.
It's terrific. They both are. I should repeat that the
Bureau is not streaming right now, but there are ways
to find it. However, I believe in the law and
I'm not going to encourage any law breaking, but you
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can find if you look hard enough for it.
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