July 30, 2025 • 24 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the upcoming ‘Love Boat Reunion’ with a special replay of actor Ted Lange’s appearance on the program discussing his role as bartender Isaac on ‘The Love Boat’…PLUS – Thoughts on a wild gang of Long-tailed macaques ruling the streets of Bali AND the ramifications of asking ChatGPT legal questions - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I didn't know until recently.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
They're actually going to do a love Boat reunion cruise
and it's supposed to depart on the Regal Princess from Galveston,
Texas on November sixteenth. And for the first time, they'll
have Charro. If you ever watched The Love Boat, she
was a frequent guest. They'll have Lauren Twos, Fred Grandy,
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Bernie Coppel, the ship's doctor, Ted Lange.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And Bernie Copel's still alive. Still alive. He's in the
nineties if I'm not mistaken. Wow, he's been around from
like Get Smart days. Yes, Ted Lange and Jill Wheeling.
Did I ever tell you Mark we had Ted Lange
on the show? You did not. I have interviewed Gopher
and I've been hung up on by Lauren tweeze.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Is that how she prows it? That's what I understood.
I could be wrong. If sure, somebody will her, well,
she needs to come on the show. But we had
on Ted Laans. This was maybe, oh gosh, ten eleven
years ago, and they say I was very successful comedically
on patch show. And they said, we got another show
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about a boat and songs and so and so we
want you for that. And it was Jimmy Komack was
the producer of Te and Tina Aaron Spelling was.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They were friends.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So he says, yeah, take Ted, he's a he's a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I did an audition. I didn't have.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I didn't have an audition because the producers knew each other.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, so they got guy goes there, How is he
to work with? Great? I have a great time whether
a good kid? Like the kid? So I go on.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Uh, And Bernie Coppel and Fred Grandy kept saying, well,
when did you do your screen test? And I said,
I didn't do a screen test. They said, you didn't
do a screen test. I said, no, they're really good actors.
They just asked them to be on the show. You
guys did a screen test.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So I would tease them for years later. I would
tease them whenever they messed up. I say, that's why
you had to do his screen test right there. But
I'm sorry, but literally everyone who was someone going to
be someone later on in their acting career came through
a lot. Yeah, they came through there. Yeah, absolutely, and
it was fun. You could tell the ones that we
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had a couple of clinkers in that, but you could
always see the ones that were gonna go on. Billy Crystal,
Billy Crystal, Tom Hanks, Lonnie Anderson, you could see him
coming through.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Tom Hanks was on Love Boat. Tom Hanks was on
love That was the first show he did before Bosom Buddies.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
He had acquired Bosom Buddies and they they gave him
a gift shot on Love Boat before they even started
filming Bosom Buddies.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Now that's something new. How about that for a history lesson?
He's not done.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, so that's how we knew. You can see
talent though, mo, you can see talent. And uh so
he came on our show. We had what we The
other thing we did I show did was we resurrected
the Old Guard. So we would bring out Greg Garson
and Ginger Rogers and all the Douglas Fairbanks Junior, all
the older stars, and you put that all in the mix.
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I was reading somewhere you also would learn something from
the Old Guard.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
What was this? If I said Lloyd Bridges to you,
what would come to mind? Well, Lloyd Bridges. Well, he
was very professional.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But the one that that that I really got something
from was Ralph Bellamy. Oh, Ralph Belly was in for
those of you that don't know trading places.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He was one of the old guys.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
This guy knew camera better than any guy I knew.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And he and he.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Always knew what if the shot wasn't what it was
supposed to be, he would know, you know, but uh,
he would always And he was trying to be a gentlemen.
He says, so, so, Ted, are you going to do
a close up here? And I go, yeah, how did
you know that? So he was checking on me to
see if I did my homework, you know. But anyway,
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he did a scene with Dorothy Malone and in the
scene on his two shot, Dorothy Malone leaned a little
bit too much to the right, and he leaned with
her and kept talking so that he kept himself free
on the camera.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You understand what I'm saying, within frame, within frame.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So she leaned, he leaned in, the camera panned with him,
and then she moved back. He moved back without missing
a beat. So me and the camera was a guy
named Arnie rich went Man. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because he was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
He was a veteran, he'd been around so and so
what happened is, whenever we had I would do scenes
with someone that liked to lean, my cameraman Arnie Rich
would say. He would say, Ralph Bellamy, Ralph Bellamy. So
then I knew that I had to be cognizant of
the actor I was with, because somewhere along the line
he would lean, and I would have to lean too
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in order to stay in a shot and not ruin
the take.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Was there anyone else.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Who passed along something like that explain or implicitly that
you might've learned from.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, Grig Garson came on, learned everybody's name. She came
on for one week and she say good morning, mister Lange,
how are you? And I said, well, I know who
you are. You're Grig Garson.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know. Now, some of the younger kids is not
going to know these names.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Go on YouTube, go on IMDb and find out who
these are. But these are old guard and so they
were always ready to go. They always knew their lines,
they always hit their marks, They always came in prepared,
and when they got ready to shoot, they were there before.
In other words, you didn't have to run around looking
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for them. They were there or they stayed close by.
So that's stuff I carried with me when I went
on to do other shows, and particularly when I'm working
with young actors, I try to pass those kinds of
things on because the old guard they they had time
is money, and that's what people forget because what happens
is they read a lot of magazines and stuff and
they see how people are acting up and they want
to act up like the other stars. But what I
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learned is this, Your reputation is what you did that day.
So if you come in and you're good that day,
that's your reputation. If you're a pain in the butt,
that's your reputation.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You have to be earned it, and you've.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Earned whatever it is, whatever it is, you've earned that.
So that and that's one of the things they taught me,
that that's your Whatever you leave on that stage, that's
your reputation. I got to tell you, that was one
of my favorite conversations when Ted Lanz came in studio,
this was at least a decade ago and told us
his behind the scenes about love Boat, and the reason
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why I replayed that is because love Boat. They're having
a reunion cruise from Galveston, Texas, starting on November sixteenth,
and they'll sail for seven nights, stopping in Honduras and Mexico,
and of course they're going to televise it. I don't
know how it's going to be done, but can't wait
for that. And this is another example. You have to
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do it while people are still here. You can't wait
too long or you'll end up losing everyone. It's so
weird to think how they're now in their later years.
And what I liked about watching the show when I
was a kid was all these old timers, like you
get Craig Stevens from Peter Gunn who just needed a paycheck,
needed to keep his insurance current, and people who don't
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know who Greg Garson was. She was one of the
great beauties of the Golden Age of Hollywood. Look up
a movie from the forties with Ronald Coleman called Random Harvest.
She was just one of the luminous beauties of the forties,
and so you get her in you like the late seventies.
I actually haven't seen that episode, and I would like
to see how she did. That's the best part I
think of my job is being able to have those
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conversations and get those anecdotes, those stories which are first
hand memories of a show, a classic show like love
Boat that only Ted Lange most likely can tell that story,
like with Ralph Bellamy.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's the best part of my job. Did he tell
you about any of the rampant behind the scenes drug use.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
He told me about that and also a rampant behind
the scenes sex. Yes, yes, yes, he just didn't do
it on air because he was trying to be respectable. Yes,
that was that was ever present, and people were always drunk,
always high, and they were enjoying the free cruise that
they were on, and you know, and in between the
time of being high and having sex, they film a
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TV show. Well, I should hope so, man, if I
was just it was just alive, just a little bit
earlier in time, get on the love Boat.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, maybe we should go on that cruise. Do
you think kfi'll put the bill? No, it's forty alive
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Wow KFI Later with Mo Kelly Live everywhere on social
media and the iHeartRadio app. And I gotta say again,
I love what I do more than anything in the
world because it allows me to have these conversations which
turn into memories, and then when they're there is a
more recent story, I get to pull out the old
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conversations and not just talk about love Boat, for example,
from a distance, but talk about it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Is like, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Remember talking to one of the principal cast members who
was on every episode, because if you know love Boat,
every show had every episode had a scene with Ted Lance,
the bartender, and somewhat interacting with him, usually whoever was
a guest star.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, listening to that interview, that was one of the classics.
And it was especially thrilling for us because he was
such a hardcore nerd blew us away. I was like, dude,
how are you sitting here nerdy out with this? You
are an icon, a legend. He stayed a whole hour
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in the studio. He stayed a whole hour and had
conversation with him afterwards. Those are just the types of
conversations like I couldn't tell you everything that he told
me because some of it was told in confidence off air.
In between segments because he was very respectful of not outing,
if you will, certain people, certain things that have happened,
people who are still living at the time. I don't
know if he came back on now whether he would
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even be more free with the information.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But that's the best part of this job, absolutely the best.
And also talk about stories like these. If you should
go to Bali, Indonesia, be careful with your belongings, and
that I mean like your sunglasses, your wallet, your phone,
any type of a valuable which could be lifted off
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your person, because every single week, long tailed macaques, which
is a type of monkey, will steal your phone, your wallet,
other valuables from you as a tourist in broad daylight
and then hold it hostage for you to trade with
them food, like give them a melon or something, and
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then they'll give you your wallet back.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Really crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
They even have video of it where people are just like,
let's say, taking a picture of the water. The monkey
will come up and snatch the phone out of their
hand and then wait for you to give the monkey
something in return. We have video of it right now
on our YouTube channel. You have to give something for
you to get your own stuff back. And it's gonna
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hold it hostage until you give it some food. That
is crazy. And it's almost like if you see the video,
will give you one item per piece of food that
you give. So if it steals your your wallet and
your phone, you got to come up with two items.
You got to two food items and they'll trade one
for one and one for one.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Little thieven monkeys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And see the thing is you're not going to fight
them because mcas they will go off on you.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
They're very strong too. The little fingers are gonna scratch
your face off.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, you don't want to mess with them.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And you have to ask yourself how important are these
sunglasses to get back?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
How important is this phone? Well, yeah, we might need
to get the phone in the wallet.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
But still who wants to come back from their vacation
and look all bruised and battered and have your friends
saying man like, like you're going on vacation.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Man, you don't want to come back, And we say, mo,
what happened?
Speaker 5 (12:13):
You say, well, you know there's some macaqus and I
thought I would, you know, get wise with them and
try to get my stuff back, and they they jumped me.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
They I don't think I've been anywhere where there've been macacus.
There have been like Reese's monkeys.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
They're just saying as thieve and as mcac yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, and they will do these But usually when I
saw the ones in Spain and in Europe, they would
do shows, and unfortunately it was almost it was it
was abusive to the animals because the monkeys would be
out there diapers, which meant that they were out there
all day long just performing. And they are performing for
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the owner of the monkey. You know, you're throwing like
coins in a in a hat for the owner and
the monkey. The monkey's just out there form and doing
all the work like they were pimping the monkey out.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
This is completely different because these monkeys are doing this
on their own without any human inspiration.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But I think these monkeys aren't getting the credit they deserve.
By watching thieves and pickpockets and the like and saying, hey,
these these people are going over to these people and
they're doing a thing and they're walking away with something
of value, we can do that too, But.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I have to wonder, like how do they process value?
Just because I'm holding in my hand, they know that
it's of certain value to me, and they know that
we're desperate enough to give them something to get it back.
That's the strange thing. I don't know, because I don't
think they're being taught explicitly by humans.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think they just figured it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Out because there is some portions of the video where
someone who lost I think they're phone is trying to
get it back and offers them like I think a
piece of candy or something, and they're like, no, no,
not enough. Had to offer something better before they got
their phone back.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And then I saw one video where they got a
bag of candy and they opened the bag of candy
to eat out of the bag.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, and they're also taking like the valuables that they're taking.
I've seen them take a couple of sunglasses and break them.
At that point, I'm getting my water about it, and
I'm about to spray you because why are you breaking
my sunglasses?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You're gonna be a and even have your eyes scratched out.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I'm sorry, spray a wild macaque?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You have all that, Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
They've already figured that into the like if you get
froggy and you know it's.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
A monkey, Yeah, it does it doesn't. It doesn't play
like you know, I dare you. There are no rules here.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Okay, it's like I snapped your thing, you spray with water.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, these guys aren't curious, George. They're killers. They're killers.
They just found a less violent way to get food.
But they will resort to violence if need be.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
That's why people are willing to barter with them, because
they're not going to strong arm them. They're not gonna say,
come here, monkey and give me my sunglasses. No, no, no,
you don't want to do that. I hear they're hosteled
to bitcoin too.
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We're live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And we're gonna chalk one in the column for Mark
Ronner because he is against all things AI. And this
might be another reason why you might have a point.
I'm quite sure most of us might now have used
chet GPT. Put a question in the prompt like what's
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a good investment strategy? Or how long is the average
lifespan of a I don't know, dresowful of fly or
something like that. But there are others who probably put
questionable questions in chat GPT, like I'm just saying hypothetically,
I've never done it, but you may know someone who's
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done it, like how do you go about disposing a
dead body? Or how do you go about making meth
at home? Because stupid people do stupid things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You should know that your Google searches are searchable and
findable by the authorities. Should know, but he doesn't. If
you just think you're gonna google what's the best way
to kill somebody and bury your body using quick line, right,
they can find that, and you're gonna You're gonna be
in the doghouse, but the big house.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But the problem is some people believe that if they're
asking legal advice of chat GPT, that there is some
sort of inherent attorney client privilege, or that is a
privileged conversation which can't be used against him or her
at a later date. According to open ai CEO Sam Altman,
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he made it very clear that there is no legal
confidentiality when users talk to chat GPT, and that open
ai would be legally required to share those exchanges should
they be subpoened.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
There were so many other upsides.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Let me give you the quote quote right now, if
you talk to a therapist or a lawyer or a doctor,
there's legal privilege for it. There's doctor patient confidentiality, there's
legal confidentiality, and we haven't figured that out yet. For
when you talk to chat GPT, well, I can figure
it out. It's not a person, so you don't have
that actual confidentiality there now. I don't know if in
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the future you may see some sort of agreement to
not share certain information. But as it stands right now,
if you're asking chat GPT about something illegal and law
enforcement is looking for your digital footprint and they know
that you might have done something on chat GPT, not
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only will law enforcement actively use that information, but open
AI and other AI companies will willingly give over the information.
So if you ask, hypothetically, how do you dispose of
a dead body that is going to be traceable back
to you, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Not a Catholic priest. You don't get confidentiality.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, no, there's no oath, there's no law protecting you,
there's no confidentiality. Don't do it, And I, as a
matter of rule, don't put questionable things into my searches.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't because I've always assumed, even before people have
gotten in trouble for it, I've always assumed that that
stuff is public. Not that I'm doing anything illegal, but
I don't want even the misinterpretation like, for example, it
could be something like there's a and this is something
that I've had to grapple with working in news talk.
For example, there could be a story of a kid,
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I'm just making this up, a kid who created a
nuclear bomb in his garage, and the there might be
a desire to look it up. It'say, well, how could
you make a bomb in your garage? No, I'm not
going to do that because that search, even though it
was well intentioned and justifiable, because I was researching a
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news story, is there is still then connected to me.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's saved, it's trackable, and there are certain warning words
and phrases that raise flags. Red flags. Absolutely, yeah, So
be careful what you type into that stuff. It is
not anonymous at all. For except well, this is something
I actually avoided doing.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
When there was the assassination attempt on then former President
Trump when he was on the campaign trail, there was
probably a lot of people who were probably researching presidential
assassinations or previous similar incidents. I was going off the
top of my head because I was not going to
search any of that stuff and then get flagged later on,
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or just in a reverse search for any reason where
I might just be caught in some sort of pool.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
No, you don't want an unannounced visit from men in suits,
no asking questions that I don't want to answer.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, no, no, no new under no circumstances.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So, to sum up, chat GPT uses up an insane
amount of energy yep. Rots your brain if you rely
on it too much, literally rots your brain within months
of using it too much. Yep. And also can get
you busted if you ask it dicey stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I can get you thrown out of college and you
plagiarism all that kind of So what's not to love?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Oh, there's a lot not to love.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But it's a generational difference, I think because you and
me Mark, we're from a generation when we had to
do it all by ourselves, and this younger generation, Yes,
I want to talk about you gen z always looking
seemingly for a shortcut, they're more inclined to use chat GPT.
I've never used it for anything other than curiosity of life.
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So what's a good investment of strategy just to see
what type of information to make give back? But I'm
not like putting personal information in there. That's another thing
they tell you not to do.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Pop culture is full of warnings about no shortcuts. There
are no shortcuts. I can tell you from the Prisoner
series back in the sixties to the Shao Lnn Temple
movie I watched over the weekend. You try to take shortcuts,
you pay the price. And I'm judgmental when it comes
to that. Have you ever been driving?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And I think you would know what I'm talking about, Mark,
Have you ever been driving? And let's say there are
two lanes residential area, and then there's someone who's always
going to try to time the light and pass on
the right and go around everyone, or they'll even go
into left turn lane and then zip back over into
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the vertical lanes and just skip past everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
They've ever seen that. It happens all the time where
I live. I'm not sure exactly what you're I'm trying
to picture it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Okay, let's say, okay, there're two lanes yep, and there's
a lane there's space, I should say to turn right.
You just come to a regular intersection, and that person
will pull up on the right as if they're turning
right and instead jump when the light turns green, so
they could jump in front of you.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh that merit's an automatic middle finger. Automatic. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
But my point is I always look at that person
as someone who's always trying to get over, always looking
for a shortcut, and ninety nine times out of one
hundred they're in a piece of car, and it's it's
endemic of it's they've never gotten ahead. They've never gotten ahead,
and so they resort to these small things where they
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think they can get ahead for short amounts of time
and it never leads anywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Big picture. Yeah, those are the people you don't want
to be on a white water rafting trip that goes
bad with, because you know they're only out for themselves.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Always always like oh okay, the rules of the road
are only for us, not for you, and there's never
a cop around when it happens.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Never. I just want to see one person get busted
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Just one.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
My question to you is do you speed up to
try and make them have to slam on their brakes,
or you just let them go around.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You ask me what age I am when I was
in my thirties and forties. Absolutely, every single time, what
about facing to.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The death current elder senior MO.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I will look at them because I know exactly what
they're going to do, and they will not look at
me because there's some level of embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They can't face the penitent stare.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And I just look at them and say, just go on,
just go on, because it's not worth whatever's going to
turn into. Put it that way, it's not worth the
verbal back and forth. It's not worth the escalation. Even
though I'm in the right. I'm absolutely in the right.
It's not worth anything that's gonna come out of it.
And I would be contradicting everything I've said on this
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show about de escalation.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Okay, so the finger stay sheathed, not even a disappointed headshake. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I might get a I might give a head shake
like come on, dude, but that's about it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm not gonna give him the finger or anything like that.
I'm not gonna run or someone. No. No, I admire
that degree of self restrain. I don't possess it. You
just get to a certain point where I like peace
in my life. That's all it is. I'll get there someday, Seafo,
it just won't be today. If I Am six forty
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
I didn't know until recently.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
They're actually going to do a love Boat reunion cruise
and it's supposed to depart on the Regal Princess from Galveston,
Texas on November sixteenth. And for the first time, they'll
have Charro. If you ever watched The Love Boat, she
was a frequent guest. They'll have Lauren Twos, Fred Grandy,
(00:31):
Bernie Coppel, the ship's doctor, Ted Lange.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
And Bernie Copel's still alive. Still alive. He's in the
nineties if I'm not mistaken. Wow, he's been around from
like Get Smart days. Yes, Ted Lange and Jill Wheeling.
Did I ever tell you Mark we had Ted Lange
on the show? You did not. I have interviewed Gopher
and I've been hung up on by Lauren tweeze.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Is that how she prows it? That's what I understood.
I could be wrong. If sure, somebody will her, well,
she needs to come on the show. But we had
on Ted Laans. This was maybe, oh gosh, ten eleven
years ago, and they say I was very successful comedically
on patch show. And they said, we got another show
(01:15):
about a boat and songs and so and so we
want you for that. And it was Jimmy Komack was
the producer of Te and Tina Aaron Spelling was.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
They were friends.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So he says, yeah, take Ted, he's a he's a
good guy.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So I did an audition. I didn't have.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I didn't have an audition because the producers knew each other.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Okay, so they got guy goes there, How is he
to work with? Great? I have a great time whether
a good kid? Like the kid? So I go on.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Uh, And Bernie Coppel and Fred Grandy kept saying, well,
when did you do your screen test? And I said,
I didn't do a screen test. They said, you didn't
do a screen test. I said, no, they're really good actors.
They just asked them to be on the show. You
guys did a screen test.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
So I would tease them for years later. I would
tease them whenever they messed up. I say, that's why
you had to do his screen test right there. But
I'm sorry, but literally everyone who was someone going to
be someone later on in their acting career came through
a lot. Yeah, they came through there. Yeah, absolutely, and
it was fun. You could tell the ones that we
(02:24):
had a couple of clinkers in that, but you could
always see the ones that were gonna go on. Billy Crystal,
Billy Crystal, Tom Hanks, Lonnie Anderson, you could see him
coming through.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Tom Hanks was on Love Boat. Tom Hanks was on
love That was the first show he did before Bosom Buddies.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
He had acquired Bosom Buddies and they they gave him
a gift shot on Love Boat before they even started
filming Bosom Buddies.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Now that's something new. How about that for a history lesson?
He's not done.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, so that's how we knew. You can see
talent though, mo, you can see talent. And uh so
he came on our show. We had what we The
other thing we did I show did was we resurrected
the Old Guard. So we would bring out Greg Garson
and Ginger Rogers and all the Douglas Fairbanks Junior, all
the older stars, and you put that all in the mix.
(03:15):
I was reading somewhere you also would learn something from
the Old Guard.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
What was this? If I said Lloyd Bridges to you,
what would come to mind? Well, Lloyd Bridges. Well, he
was very professional.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
But the one that that that I really got something
from was Ralph Bellamy. Oh, Ralph Belly was in for
those of you that don't know trading places.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
He was one of the old guys.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
This guy knew camera better than any guy I knew.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And he and he.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Always knew what if the shot wasn't what it was
supposed to be, he would know, you know, but uh,
he would always And he was trying to be a gentlemen.
He says, so, so, Ted, are you going to do
a close up here? And I go, yeah, how did
you know that? So he was checking on me to
see if I did my homework, you know. But anyway,
(04:01):
he did a scene with Dorothy Malone and in the
scene on his two shot, Dorothy Malone leaned a little
bit too much to the right, and he leaned with
her and kept talking so that he kept himself free
on the camera.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You understand what I'm saying, within frame, within frame.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So she leaned, he leaned in, the camera panned with him,
and then she moved back. He moved back without missing
a beat. So me and the camera was a guy
named Arnie rich went Man. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Because he was.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
He was a veteran, he'd been around so and so
what happened is, whenever we had I would do scenes
with someone that liked to lean, my cameraman Arnie Rich
would say. He would say, Ralph Bellamy, Ralph Bellamy. So
then I knew that I had to be cognizant of
the actor I was with, because somewhere along the line
he would lean, and I would have to lean too
(04:54):
in order to stay in a shot and not ruin
the take.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Was there anyone else.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Who passed along something like that explain or implicitly that
you might've learned from.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, Grig Garson came on, learned everybody's name. She came
on for one week and she say good morning, mister Lange,
how are you? And I said, well, I know who
you are. You're Grig Garson.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know. Now, some of the younger kids is not
going to know these names.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Go on YouTube, go on IMDb and find out who
these are. But these are old guard and so they
were always ready to go. They always knew their lines,
they always hit their marks, They always came in prepared,
and when they got ready to shoot, they were there before.
In other words, you didn't have to run around looking
(05:37):
for them. They were there or they stayed close by.
So that's stuff I carried with me when I went
on to do other shows, and particularly when I'm working
with young actors, I try to pass those kinds of
things on because the old guard they they had time
is money, and that's what people forget because what happens
is they read a lot of magazines and stuff and
they see how people are acting up and they want
to act up like the other stars. But what I
(06:00):
learned is this, Your reputation is what you did that day.
So if you come in and you're good that day,
that's your reputation. If you're a pain in the butt,
that's your reputation.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You have to be earned it, and you've.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Earned whatever it is, whatever it is, you've earned that.
So that and that's one of the things they taught me,
that that's your Whatever you leave on that stage, that's
your reputation. I got to tell you, that was one
of my favorite conversations when Ted Lanz came in studio,
this was at least a decade ago and told us
his behind the scenes about love Boat, and the reason
(06:34):
why I replayed that is because love Boat. They're having
a reunion cruise from Galveston, Texas, starting on November sixteenth,
and they'll sail for seven nights, stopping in Honduras and Mexico,
and of course they're going to televise it. I don't
know how it's going to be done, but can't wait
for that. And this is another example. You have to
(06:56):
do it while people are still here. You can't wait
too long or you'll end up losing everyone. It's so
weird to think how they're now in their later years.
And what I liked about watching the show when I
was a kid was all these old timers, like you
get Craig Stevens from Peter Gunn who just needed a paycheck,
needed to keep his insurance current, and people who don't
(07:18):
know who Greg Garson was. She was one of the
great beauties of the Golden Age of Hollywood. Look up
a movie from the forties with Ronald Coleman called Random Harvest.
She was just one of the luminous beauties of the forties,
and so you get her in you like the late seventies.
I actually haven't seen that episode, and I would like
to see how she did. That's the best part I
think of my job is being able to have those
(07:39):
conversations and get those anecdotes, those stories which are first
hand memories of a show, a classic show like love
Boat that only Ted Lange most likely can tell that story,
like with Ralph Bellamy.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's the best part of my job. Did he tell
you about any of the rampant behind the scenes drug use.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
He told me about that and also a rampant behind
the scenes sex. Yes, yes, yes, he just didn't do
it on air because he was trying to be respectable. Yes,
that was that was ever present, and people were always drunk,
always high, and they were enjoying the free cruise that
they were on, and you know, and in between the
time of being high and having sex, they film a
(08:20):
TV show. Well, I should hope so, man, if I
was just it was just alive, just a little bit
earlier in time, get on the love Boat.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, yeah, maybe we should go on that cruise. Do
you think kfi'll put the bill? No, it's forty alive
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Wow KFI Later with Mo Kelly Live everywhere on social
media and the iHeartRadio app. And I gotta say again,
I love what I do more than anything in the
world because it allows me to have these conversations which
turn into memories, and then when they're there is a
more recent story, I get to pull out the old
(09:03):
conversations and not just talk about love Boat, for example,
from a distance, but talk about it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Is like, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Remember talking to one of the principal cast members who
was on every episode, because if you know love Boat,
every show had every episode had a scene with Ted Lance,
the bartender, and somewhat interacting with him, usually whoever was
a guest star.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, listening to that interview, that was one of the classics.
And it was especially thrilling for us because he was
such a hardcore nerd blew us away. I was like, dude,
how are you sitting here nerdy out with this? You
are an icon, a legend. He stayed a whole hour
(09:48):
in the studio. He stayed a whole hour and had
conversation with him afterwards. Those are just the types of
conversations like I couldn't tell you everything that he told
me because some of it was told in confidence off air.
In between segments because he was very respectful of not outing,
if you will, certain people, certain things that have happened,
people who are still living at the time. I don't
know if he came back on now whether he would
(10:10):
even be more free with the information.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
But that's the best part of this job, absolutely the best.
And also talk about stories like these. If you should
go to Bali, Indonesia, be careful with your belongings, and
that I mean like your sunglasses, your wallet, your phone,
any type of a valuable which could be lifted off
(10:33):
your person, because every single week, long tailed macaques, which
is a type of monkey, will steal your phone, your wallet,
other valuables from you as a tourist in broad daylight
and then hold it hostage for you to trade with
them food, like give them a melon or something, and
(10:55):
then they'll give you your wallet back.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Really crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
They even have video of it where people are just like,
let's say, taking a picture of the water. The monkey
will come up and snatch the phone out of their
hand and then wait for you to give the monkey
something in return. We have video of it right now
on our YouTube channel. You have to give something for
you to get your own stuff back. And it's gonna
(11:21):
hold it hostage until you give it some food. That
is crazy. And it's almost like if you see the video,
will give you one item per piece of food that
you give. So if it steals your your wallet and
your phone, you got to come up with two items.
You got to two food items and they'll trade one
for one and one for one.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Little thieven monkeys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
And see the thing is you're not going to fight
them because mcas they will go off on you.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
They're very strong too. The little fingers are gonna scratch
your face off.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, you don't want to mess with them.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And you have to ask yourself how important are these
sunglasses to get back?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
How important is this phone? Well, yeah, we might need
to get the phone in the wallet.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
But still who wants to come back from their vacation
and look all bruised and battered and have your friends
saying man like, like you're going on vacation.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Man, you don't want to come back, And we say, mo,
what happened?
Speaker 5 (12:13):
You say, well, you know there's some macaqus and I
thought I would, you know, get wise with them and
try to get my stuff back, and they they jumped me.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
They I don't think I've been anywhere where there've been macacus.
There have been like Reese's monkeys.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
They're just saying as thieve and as mcac yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, and they will do these But usually when I
saw the ones in Spain and in Europe, they would
do shows, and unfortunately it was almost it was it
was abusive to the animals because the monkeys would be
out there diapers, which meant that they were out there
all day long just performing. And they are performing for
(12:51):
the owner of the monkey. You know, you're throwing like
coins in a in a hat for the owner and
the monkey. The monkey's just out there form and doing
all the work like they were pimping the monkey out.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
This is completely different because these monkeys are doing this
on their own without any human inspiration.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But I think these monkeys aren't getting the credit they deserve.
By watching thieves and pickpockets and the like and saying, hey,
these these people are going over to these people and
they're doing a thing and they're walking away with something
of value, we can do that too, But.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I have to wonder, like how do they process value?
Just because I'm holding in my hand, they know that
it's of certain value to me, and they know that
we're desperate enough to give them something to get it back.
That's the strange thing. I don't know, because I don't
think they're being taught explicitly by humans.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think they just figured it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Out because there is some portions of the video where
someone who lost I think they're phone is trying to
get it back and offers them like I think a
piece of candy or something, and they're like, no, no,
not enough. Had to offer something better before they got
their phone back.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
And then I saw one video where they got a
bag of candy and they opened the bag of candy
to eat out of the bag.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, and they're also taking like the valuables that they're taking.
I've seen them take a couple of sunglasses and break them.
At that point, I'm getting my water about it, and
I'm about to spray you because why are you breaking
my sunglasses?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
You're gonna be a and even have your eyes scratched out.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I'm sorry, spray a wild macaque?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You have all that, Louisiana.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
They've already figured that into the like if you get
froggy and you know it's.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
A monkey, Yeah, it does it doesn't. It doesn't play
like you know, I dare you. There are no rules here.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
Okay, it's like I snapped your thing, you spray with water.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, these guys aren't curious, George. They're killers. They're killers.
They just found a less violent way to get food.
But they will resort to violence if need be.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
That's why people are willing to barter with them, because
they're not going to strong arm them. They're not gonna say,
come here, monkey and give me my sunglasses. No, no, no,
you don't want to do that. I hear they're hosteled
to bitcoin too.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
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Speaker 2 (15:34):
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Speaker 3 (15:35):
We're live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And we're gonna chalk one in the column for Mark
Ronner because he is against all things AI. And this
might be another reason why you might have a point.
I'm quite sure most of us might now have used
chet GPT. Put a question in the prompt like what's
(15:58):
a good investment strategy? Or how long is the average
lifespan of a I don't know, dresowful of fly or
something like that. But there are others who probably put
questionable questions in chat GPT, like I'm just saying hypothetically,
I've never done it, but you may know someone who's
(16:20):
done it, like how do you go about disposing a
dead body? Or how do you go about making meth
at home? Because stupid people do stupid things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
You should know that your Google searches are searchable and
findable by the authorities. Should know, but he doesn't. If
you just think you're gonna google what's the best way
to kill somebody and bury your body using quick line, right,
they can find that, and you're gonna You're gonna be
in the doghouse, but the big house.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But the problem is some people believe that if they're
asking legal advice of chat GPT, that there is some
sort of inherent attorney client privilege, or that is a
privileged conversation which can't be used against him or her
at a later date. According to open ai CEO Sam Altman,
(17:14):
he made it very clear that there is no legal
confidentiality when users talk to chat GPT, and that open
ai would be legally required to share those exchanges should
they be subpoened.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
There were so many other upsides.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Let me give you the quote quote right now, if
you talk to a therapist or a lawyer or a doctor,
there's legal privilege for it. There's doctor patient confidentiality, there's
legal confidentiality, and we haven't figured that out yet. For
when you talk to chat GPT, well, I can figure
it out. It's not a person, so you don't have
that actual confidentiality there now. I don't know if in
(17:57):
the future you may see some sort of agreement to
not share certain information. But as it stands right now,
if you're asking chat GPT about something illegal and law
enforcement is looking for your digital footprint and they know
that you might have done something on chat GPT, not
(18:19):
only will law enforcement actively use that information, but open
AI and other AI companies will willingly give over the information.
So if you ask, hypothetically, how do you dispose of
a dead body that is going to be traceable back
to you, it's.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Not a Catholic priest. You don't get confidentiality.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
No, no, there's no oath, there's no law protecting you,
there's no confidentiality. Don't do it, And I, as a
matter of rule, don't put questionable things into my searches.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't because I've always assumed, even before people have
gotten in trouble for it, I've always assumed that that
stuff is public. Not that I'm doing anything illegal, but
I don't want even the misinterpretation like, for example, it
could be something like there's a and this is something
that I've had to grapple with working in news talk.
For example, there could be a story of a kid,
(19:17):
I'm just making this up, a kid who created a
nuclear bomb in his garage, and the there might be
a desire to look it up. It'say, well, how could
you make a bomb in your garage? No, I'm not
going to do that because that search, even though it
was well intentioned and justifiable, because I was researching a
(19:39):
news story, is there is still then connected to me.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
It's saved, it's trackable, and there are certain warning words
and phrases that raise flags. Red flags. Absolutely, yeah, So
be careful what you type into that stuff. It is
not anonymous at all. For except well, this is something
I actually avoided doing.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
When there was the assassination attempt on then former President
Trump when he was on the campaign trail, there was
probably a lot of people who were probably researching presidential
assassinations or previous similar incidents. I was going off the
top of my head because I was not going to
search any of that stuff and then get flagged later on,
(20:20):
or just in a reverse search for any reason where
I might just be caught in some sort of pool.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
No, you don't want an unannounced visit from men in suits,
no asking questions that I don't want to answer.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
No, no, no, no new under no circumstances.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So, to sum up, chat GPT uses up an insane
amount of energy yep. Rots your brain if you rely
on it too much, literally rots your brain within months
of using it too much. Yep. And also can get
you busted if you ask it dicey stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I can get you thrown out of college and you
plagiarism all that kind of So what's not to love?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Oh, there's a lot not to love.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But it's a generational difference, I think because you and
me Mark, we're from a generation when we had to
do it all by ourselves, and this younger generation, Yes,
I want to talk about you gen z always looking
seemingly for a shortcut, they're more inclined to use chat GPT.
I've never used it for anything other than curiosity of life.
(21:18):
So what's a good investment of strategy just to see
what type of information to make give back? But I'm
not like putting personal information in there. That's another thing
they tell you not to do.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Pop culture is full of warnings about no shortcuts. There
are no shortcuts. I can tell you from the Prisoner
series back in the sixties to the Shao Lnn Temple
movie I watched over the weekend. You try to take shortcuts,
you pay the price. And I'm judgmental when it comes
to that. Have you ever been driving?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
And I think you would know what I'm talking about, Mark,
Have you ever been driving? And let's say there are
two lanes residential area, and then there's someone who's always
going to try to time the light and pass on
the right and go around everyone, or they'll even go
into left turn lane and then zip back over into
(22:06):
the vertical lanes and just skip past everyone.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
They've ever seen that. It happens all the time where
I live. I'm not sure exactly what you're I'm trying
to picture it.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Okay, let's say, okay, there're two lanes yep, and there's
a lane there's space, I should say to turn right.
You just come to a regular intersection, and that person
will pull up on the right as if they're turning
right and instead jump when the light turns green, so
they could jump in front of you.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Oh that merit's an automatic middle finger. Automatic. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
But my point is I always look at that person
as someone who's always trying to get over, always looking
for a shortcut, and ninety nine times out of one
hundred they're in a piece of car, and it's it's
endemic of it's they've never gotten ahead. They've never gotten ahead,
and so they resort to these small things where they
(22:57):
think they can get ahead for short amounts of time
and it never leads anywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Big picture. Yeah, those are the people you don't want
to be on a white water rafting trip that goes
bad with, because you know they're only out for themselves.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Always always like oh okay, the rules of the road
are only for us, not for you, and there's never
a cop around when it happens.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Never. I just want to see one person get busted
for it.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Just one.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
My question to you is do you speed up to
try and make them have to slam on their brakes,
or you just let them go around.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
You ask me what age I am when I was
in my thirties and forties. Absolutely, every single time, what
about facing to.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
The death current elder senior MO.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I will look at them because I know exactly what
they're going to do, and they will not look at
me because there's some level of embarrassment.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
They can't face the penitent stare.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And I just look at them and say, just go on,
just go on, because it's not worth whatever's going to
turn into. Put it that way, it's not worth the
verbal back and forth. It's not worth the escalation. Even
though I'm in the right. I'm absolutely in the right.
It's not worth anything that's gonna come out of it.
And I would be contradicting everything I've said on this
(24:04):
show about de escalation.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Okay, so the finger stay sheathed, not even a disappointed headshake. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I might get a I might give a head shake
like come on, dude, but that's about it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'm not gonna give him the finger or anything like that.
I'm not gonna run or someone. No. No, I admire
that degree of self restrain. I don't possess it. You
just get to a certain point where I like peace
in my life. That's all it is. I'll get there someday, Seafo,
it just won't be today. If I Am six forty
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