February 21, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the return of Alan Ritchson’s amazing portrayal of Lee Child’s ‘Jack Reacher’ with the debut of ‘Reacher’ season 3 on Prime Video AND the ridiculousness of the latest classic character IP flip with the trailer for the horror release ‘Popeye’s Revenge’…PLUS - Thoughts on the Producers of all things ‘James Bond’ relinquishing IP control to Amazon MGM Studios - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Play Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (00:13):
And I am giddy because this is a time in
which there is so much good stuff to watch on
TV that I don't know where to start. I'm in
the second season of The Recruit, I'm in the second
season of The Night Agent. I'm now in the third
season of Reacher, which just dropped yesterday. And Reacher is
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so damn good. It's violent, it's vulgar, it is perfect.
It's everything a growing boy like me needs. And usually
by season three with most shows, especially on streaming, they
start mailing it in or they start running out of
stories to tell.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Not so with Reacher. And if you don't know Reacher.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Reacher is based on Lee Child's popular book series about
this drifter who draws upon his experience as a former
army major to uncover corruption and conspiracies all around the country.
He's he's he doesn't have an address. He just kind
of drifts from city to city. He has a network
of other operators that he'll work with from time to time,
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but for the most part, he's just out there drifting
around the country. And part of the reason I think
why the movies with Tom Cruise didn't really work is
if you have any familiarity with the character.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Rich is supposed to be a big ass dude.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He's supposed to be, you know, he's man handling all
these criminals and Tom Cruise is not that he didn't
have the on screen persona for that, but Alan Richson,
he embodies the character and he's just dispensing with fools
left and right. I think the series dropped yesterday at midnight.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Was it Wednesday night?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I don't know, but I started watching it after midnight
last night. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I started watching it this morning and the first three
episodes dropped.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Let me just play some of the trailer real quick.
Never been so jealous of a fort in my lege.
You have any thoughts on dessert? Best to reach Jim.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
We're looking into the owner of a rug import business
called let me guess DA.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thinks needs in business with bad people. You know, I
thought I killed him years ago. What did he do
to you? He didn't do anything to me. Maybe we
can help each other upon way, I have a plan
undercovering format.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
You are done, mister Riach here record it's impressive.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
French press proves nothing. I'll go on the pad Rika
d I thought sorry and slipped Welcome to the team, Reacher.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, and it's if you haven't seen a series,
you want to watch it from season one.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
It's not exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Episodic and chronological, but they're Each season is a season
long arc story that they tell, and it's almost like
levels on a video game. You know, you have to
fight the big boss at the end. It progresses much
like a video game. Alan Richson, he's kind of Arnold
Schwarzenegger in the way that he's deadpanned how he delivers
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his lines. Obviously, there's a physical analog because he's very muscular,
and there's a running joke where he's always pumped up
in a muscular way, but you never see him lift weights,
and that's part of the reason why they have that
joke where he thinks weightlifting is a joke, but it's like,
how do you get so big, dude without lifting weights?
He's a behemoth facing off another behemoth in this season.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, for a drifter with no home, he must have
a gym membership someplace, like some sort of La fitness
card that he can use wherever he goes in the country.
I also I like that Richmon seems to be much
more comfortable in the role now than he was at first.
It's a character you like hanging out and spending time with.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Even though he probably the character would probably not be
likable in real life. You like the character even though
that he's killing just about everyone who comes in his path.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well, you wouldn't like James Bond in real life either.
What's attractive about Reacher is that he is one hundred
percent a fantasy superhero character who tells people off exactly
like you would want to. But you can't kick every
single person's ass like he can. And he he doesn't
have a boss to answer to. I mean, he's a drifter.
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He's not encumbered by any of the things that we
and the audience are. Pardon my ignorance, but is is
this Reacher the same one as the one that John
Krasinski was? Is it like different?
Speaker 7 (05:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That was Ryan?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Oh okay, well I guess with that, Like, are they
just different iterations like Bond?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Is that kind of like what they do?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The only other.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Iteration of this of Reacher was Tom Cruise. He did
the two movies. Okay, yeah, it was Mini Reacher, right,
And that's part of the reason I was saying that
the movies didn't sit right because if you know anything
about the character, it just doesn't fit. It was it
was miscast, having nothing to do with Tom Cruise's acting ability.
A big component of this character is his size. It's
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a running theme that everyone comments about his size.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So it is kind of like just their version of it,
the one that you guys are watching.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Now, Well, this is the Amazon Prime version, if you
want to call it a version, But I think it's
more accurate and true.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think if I understand the root of Fusha's question, Yes,
all the shows that we love are essentially the same show.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
No, No, I was just I was just curious because
I got confused with Reacher and Jack Ryan. But now
I'm kind of now I'm getting Yeah, Jack Ryan's a.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Humble CIA analyst who swept into Grand Adventures. Reacher is
just a big brute.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
But to Stephan's point, if you think about Jack Ryan,
they've had like four or five different versions, from Kazinski
to Ben Affleck to Harrison Ford, you know, Chris pine Pine.
Speaker 9 (06:29):
As a matter of fact, Yeah, the interesting thing about
the Tom Cruise Reacher movies is that his size did
play a significant role in that in every movie, every
time someone met him, they always said, I thought you'd
be the bigger right, which was a joke on the
fact that Tom Cruise was aware of the fact that
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he was not the behemoth he was supposed to be,
and he tried to play more slick, smart, outwitting individuals
and not get into fisticuffs with people, even though he
could handle himself. Feels more like, no, I'm a smart Reacher,
I avoid this and I sit you up to take
the fall. Yeah, this Reacher is my Reacher.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Alan Richson.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Obviously, it takes a while for an actor to find
the right role, for an actor to really show what
he or she can do.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
What was the TV show the DC Titans Titans?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
He was great on Titan, He was Grand Titans, but
he was overshadowed by too many other people on that
show because it's a huge ensemble.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
But he was great in the moments that he was
able to do anything.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, there wasn't that much for him to do on
the show. But this is all him.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And he has this facial expression where it never changes.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
His facial expression never changes.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But that's a part of the acting where despite all
the craziness going on around him.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
He is always cool, calm and collected.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Did you know that he was originally going to be
and not even originally he was Aquaman in the Smallville
I mean in the Superman series Smallville, and they were
going to do an Aquaman series with him. They shot
a pilot. It's just they were just Smallville was running
on fumes by that time. They're like, nah, we don't
need to do it Aquaman series.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Look, if he were not so bulked up, I would
I could see him as Batman in a heartbeat.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
They keep ever, fan casting unanimously has him cast as
the older, more gruff Batman in the new James Gun universe,
which is taking place where Batman is older, more established,
and he's got his son and all that. Everyone is like, dude,
he could play Bruce Wayne. He could play Batman, except
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he's too damn big.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He's too big now.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And also, yeah, he'd have to play the older Batman
because even in Reacher season three, you can see just
a little bit of gray coming in on his beard.
You can't hide his age. He's not like an old dude,
but still he's not thirty year old Batman. Bruce Wayne
running around the city. No, man is not a giant bodybuilder.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
No, no, no, But he could still do this role
for as long as he's willing to keep it up.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He could make a career out of Reacher.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
The question is when do they do a movie with him,
because I think it's begging for a movie. They're doing
the SPT off with Neely, so you have a Reacher
universe which you could easily turn into a movie. I
think most of these streaming platforms are like breeding grounds
for future movies. You can talk about Cobra Kai and
how that has now produced an audience which would support
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a movie.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Again, the thing is though, that since it's on Amazon,
what could you do in a movie that you couldn't
do on Amazon? They can have to sell tickets, They
could have dirty words, nudity or violence or anything on
Amazon that you could have in a movie.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But hopefully they would have a bigger budget because as
much as they didn't have a small budget for this,
because there are some car stunts and certain things that
you can tell that kind of costs some money, it's
still not movie quality.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh, by the way, what do you think about Anthony
Michael Hall from The Breakfast Club as the old heavy
in this.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, I think that's Tony. What I think it's Tony.
What are you talking about? Let me see, let me see,
let me see Michael Hall, the cute kid.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
No, it is Anthony, Michael Hall. Thought it was Tony.
So Tony from Lon or SVU. No, I'm just looking
it up. Take your time, it's just radio. No, just
keep talking.
Speaker 9 (10:25):
Look Mark, So Anthony Michael Hall, the Breakfast the Breakfast Club,
and now he's an old heavy. You say, well, yeah,
and he's, by the way, he's not a small guy.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I've passed him on the street. Uh, He's is Anthony.
He's a pretty big dude. And reacherd dwarfs him. But yeah,
it's odd to Anthony's geting some weight. It's odd for
me to see him as an older guy. Now he
is literally guy. Yeah, I mean he's almost unrecognizable.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, that's that's disappointing. Day.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
No, wait what he did because Breakfast Club is my
teenage childhood. Okay, so we're around the same age. Okay,
So to see him hitting older man status is a
self realization, That's all I'm saying. Okay, it's not a
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diss on him.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I'm about to say, man, that's kind of cold.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Let's talk Popeye when we come back. Let's just change
the subject. Okay, let's not talk about my age. Kim
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Speaker 2 (11:25):
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Speaker 4 (11:31):
Mister Kelly live everywhere in the iHeart radio app. And
we remember Popeye. Everybody remembers Popeye. I'm talking about the cartoon,
not the movie with Robin Williams, which was fine, Shelley Duvall.
I'm talking about the cartoon and Bluto slash Brutus, whose
name changed for reasons I'm not exactly sure. And what
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was it, Whimpy, I'd gladly pay you tuesdays. Yeah, And
he kept getting over, how much did you do you
think owed thousands of dollars? I'm sure there's a Reddit
thread that someone. I wonder how many times he said
that in all the cartoons. But anyhow, we had talked
over the years about how different intellectual property falls back
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into public domain.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think it's maybe seventy five years.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
After seventy five years or so, and Popeye is the
latest to do that. It happened with Winnie the Pooh,
it happened with a version of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
And with those you had independent filmmakers who turned around
and turned those characters into subjects for horror movies. Somewhat
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funny actually because they were slasher flicks, but the stayed
true to the characters outside of that. Well, once again
it has happened, but this time with Popeye the Sailor Man.
And I don't know if and when this movie's ever
coming out, but there is a trailer for it called
Popeye's Let me just let you know. It looks really
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really bad. I mean, god awful, bad, dime store bad.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I will watch it.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I know. It doesn't even look like it was shot
on an iPhone.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It looks so horrible and it will make money.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It all started with a screen.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I don't know why this Popeye movie is set
in Australia or New Zealand or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It just throws me off. It all started with a screen.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
You know he's coming when the folk grows in its
fifteen years ago, the little boy they called Popeye drowned.
Let's see if Popeye is got wants to play with
But I think I just saw someone.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
What are you doing driving down here?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
There's nothing down here?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Popular brand and old house. Yeah, Popeye's house. So my
parents own the place.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Now that is a nice Now Popeye is running through
the woods killing teens who are having sex.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
In every imaginable way.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What volume, eyeballs popping out, slitting people's throats. Popeyes Revenge
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coming to a theater near you, you know what.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I was hoping to hear that little I laugh at
the end of the killings.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It may be in there. I don't know. Are these
spinach fueled murders?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, yes, there's a can of spinach which rolls on
the floor. It takes place in like a factory, right,
something like that. Part of the killings, Yeah, I don't know,
but it looks like it's the Australian Outback or something.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Tell spinach makes me want to kill two, so I'm
first in line for this.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, the spinach does play a role. I don't know what.
Something about.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's almost like Jason Vorhees, he drowned fifteen years ago
or something, and he's come back. He's a full grown
man and it's the full the thick forearms with the
anchor tattoo on his forearms, so it's Popeye.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Maybe we'll get an origin for the enormous forearms.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
That's the part that for me when I saw that
was probably the most comical part was his arms.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But it's cartoon character Popeye. It's yeah, those are forearms.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Though in the cartoon you always suspect, and now we
know he could bludge in somebody to death with those.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And that's what I never understood.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Why Popeye needed the spinach to beat the hell out
of Brutus.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Did he really he should? Brutus was never in shape.
Popeye was in the Navy.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
He should have been mopping him every single day, twice
on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, they didn't understand that it's the big guys who
are really the slow ones.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Brute didn't seem like he had any type of fighting ability.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
True, They just made it seem like because he's so
much bigger than him.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But yeah, Pape could have taken him.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Brutus was soft as he used his size as it determinent.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He was a bully and he assumed no one would
ever fight him back. And if I'm Popeye, I'm just
eating spinach all the.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Time, you know, if that's the key to just eat spinach.
Is there a tagline for this cheap pile of number two?
Not that I can tell, because it would have to
be something like I am what I am? A killer?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Hopefully it's in there, but it wasn't in the trailer. Okay,
you know they did have heake. That's what I'm hoping for,
like stuff said, but no, it wasn't in the trailer.
But if it's true to the Popeye character in the
way the visuals were because it looked like Popeye, then
it'll probably be in the movie somewhere. But there's no
way I'm paying money or paying time to see this.
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From Sailor to Slayer, I am so in Oh, come on,
I see this. You are a cheap You are a
cheap day let me tell you no.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, this has a lot of potential, and I hope
people from all corners take advantage of this public domain
Popeye stuff. Also, I used to love the old cartoons,
especially in the older black and white ones. He was
constantly muttering to himself, and I'd love to see him
do that while while he's stalking and killing people.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Looking at Popeye through adult eyes Popeye obviously had a
lot of issues, a lot of issues. I don't know
if it was PTSD.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
From World War One. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But the things you see when you're in the open
water like that, Yeah, of course that would damage his psyche.
He I can't wait to see this, just like the
Winnie the Pooh, what was it? Blood and honey, Yes,
blood and honey. I mean, I'm not saying it was good.
Please don't say that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That one took a minute to That took me like
two weekends to finish that movie.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
But you can see now this is the tread now
the future, Yeah, this is the future. Everything which falls
in public domain will end up as a slasher story.
I would prefer a porno, but that's just me. Oh
that's on the way, and uh, we're going to see
olive oil. That's what I wondered. There's nothing which said
to me olive oil in that trailer.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well maybe they're saving that. Well hopefully you can't reveal
every single thing in the trailer.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It was a bad movie. There's nothing to hold back.
You should give it all up right now.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think we should plan on a dude's night out
to go to the Popeye movie. But I doubt it's
going to be in any theater anything now.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's probably not going to be shown anywhere on your phone.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Oh but when we come back, Mark Rouner, I definitely
need you because there is a major James Bond intellectual
will property update that I need.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Got to have your opinion on. It's big news, big, big, big,
big news, and it's going to make you very angry.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh, I've been angry all day.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
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Speaker 4 (19:15):
James Bond something we've discussed here on Later with Mo
Kelly any number of times, and the last time we
discussed it, we were wondering out loud what was going
to happen with the James Bond franchise because there was
a lot of friction between the producers who owned the
intellectual property, the copyright, and also Amazon Studios. Because short
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story is, Amazon wanted to create this whole Bond universe
and spin off characters, and the owners of the IP,
Barbara Brockley and her half brother Michael G. Wilson, were
pushing back on that thought it would cheapen the brand.
We'll come to find out today that Amazon mgbstudent and
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the longtime producers of the James Bond film franchise, the
aforementioned Barbara Broccley and her half brother Michael Wilson, said
that they made a deal that will give Amazon creative
control of the British super spy series. And I know, Mark,
you are not happy about that at all. No, it's
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the first thing I woke up to. It put me
in a rotten mood all day. I gotta tell you,
because we know that, Okay. Barbara Brockley is the daughter
of Kubby Broccoli, who was the producer who made Bond
big in the first place, back in the sixties, and
they've been in charge of Bond since I guess the nineties,
is it?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And I got to tell you, I haven't always agreed
with every single thing they've done with Bond. I think
their movies have been real hit and miss. But it
was reported that Barbara had actually referred to the Amazon
people as fing idiots, and so that doesn't exactly fill
you with confidence about what is to come. I mean,
I don't know how big a Bond fan you are, Mo,
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but I have been my whole life, and I still
am as an aging man. It just I think that
with Amazon in charge, Bond won't be as special. They're
going to dilute it. It's going to be more ordinary.
Bond films have always been a huge event. Those are
like the bespoke action adventure films of all time.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
This is a money grab.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I get the sense, not knowing the players, I get
the sense that Barbara Brockley just threw up her hands
and said, I give up, if only because she was
holding on so tight prior to this, and very very
specific and particular about what the Bond franchise meant, how
it was going to be used in the future, and
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what it was not going to be. And I never
suspected that they were going to do anything that Amazon
MGM wanted to do. It just seemed completely anesthetical to
her vision of the character.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, and even if I'm not a fan of everything
Barbara Brockley and Michael Wilson have done with Bond, I
really admired them telling Amazon to go pound sand, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And they did tell them that.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
So it was even more surprising to think that they
came to some sort of agreement when in an vision,
since they couldn't have been further apart and to allow
then what I perceived as Amazon getting the go ahead
and the green light to spend out this Bond universe.
I don't want to see a quote unquote Bond Girl
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TV show. I don't want to see a Bond Villain
series because the James Bond universe begins and ends with
James Bond.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You're gonna get a Moneypenny mini series, You're gonna get
a a Felix Lighter mini series, all of it. They're
not gonna leave any corner untouched.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But we've seen this with other intellectual property like use Batman.
For example, we had a Gotham series that didn't have
Batman in it. We had a Pennyworth series that didn't
have Batman in it. You had this Rogues gallery and
you've seen it with Spider Man in the Sony universe.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It always fails.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Now, it will make money for the company, but to
your point, it definitely dilutes the brand. The Sony Spider
verset diluted the Spider Man brand.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They may surprise us, I mean, odds are that some
of it is going to have to be watchable or decent,
like that Pennyworth series you're talking about was really good,
but nobody saw it because it was on some obscure
streaming service.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Evans, Yeah, thank you for because we interviewed the star.
Oh yeah, Jack Bammon.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, he's great, he's really good, perfect Alfred. But so
some of this stuff might be okay, And of course
a lot of it's going to depend on who they
pick as the next Bond. And I don't know about you,
but I haven't seen a single person who I thought, oh, yeah,
that's got to be the guy.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Supposedly was going to be Aaron Taylor Johnson. And I'm
quite sure Craven did not help that out.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, don't put Craven at the top of your resume.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
And they and they've waited so long, which says to
me there isn't anyone who they like for the character.
They would have chosen that person by now.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, Henry Cavill's name has been floated around for a
long time, but he's too famous now. Bond is traditionally
not a huge star when he takes the role. Even
Roger Moore wasn't huge when he took the role. He
was a TV star. Nobody knew who Sean Connery was.
George Lazenby was a male model who just walked in
off the street and had so much nerve that that's
what impressed Broccoli. But also Bond was usually slight in build.
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He was certainly wasn't a giant bodybuilder. I mean, if
you read the books, his workout regimen is a couple
weeks next swimming before for a mission.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, and maybe having sex. That's about it. Well, I
can be exercise if you do it correctly.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But James Bond, and part of his allura I think
was because he was always fighting villains or henchman much
bigger than him, be an odd Job or Jaws. He
was at a physical disadvantage. Yeah, you got to kind
of differentiate between the books and the movies. Like in
the movie he just chokes Goldfinger to death. There's no
getting sucked out of a plane window. But yeah, I
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mean he's always outmatched. And that's one thing I think
that a lot of their recent movies have gotten wrong.
Bond is no team player. He is alone. He is
a loner. There's something not right about him mentally. He
is the kind of person who is recruited for that
kind of job. He's an orphan. Well, he's a sociopath
and a psychopath. I don't know if he is those things,
but he's not a nice guy. And what was cool
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about Bond way back when Doctor No came out was like,
here's kind of a different hero.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You don't want to go have a beer with this guy.
You send him out on a mission and then you
just wait for the bodies to pile up.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
He was I wouldn't say he was all the way
an anti hero, but he was adjacent to anti hero.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, he was inspired by Paul Piro's And you've got
to remember that there's absolutely no way those books and
especially the movies were meant to be taken as serious
spy things like John Lecarey. They're pulp fantasies. They're over
the top, they're ridiculous, and there's a lot of elements.
I mean, the movies are just completely over the top,
insane productions. But there are things like you know, the
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Garden of Death with all the killer plants. In one
of the books, I think it's You Only Live Twice,
but there's a lot. It was never meant to be
anything other than cartoonish adventures. They're not serious books or movies,
but it's okay.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
That that art evolves, or our perception of that art evolves.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I love them.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean I'll watch every Bond thing that exists, and
like everybody, I've got my favorites. What's your favorite Bond movie? Mom, Oh,
it's Goulldfinger. Nothing is close. Remember why I texted you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I said, hey, you know the irradiated gold would have
not been irradiated anymore because I like, it was like
forty eight years they talk about in the movie, and
so I think forty eight years have passed.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I love Goldfinger, and it's definitely the one that solidified
the formula. I think a close second is On Her
Majesty's Secret Service. Yes, absolutely perfect adventure movie.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, I don't know, but see the movies that I
like as an adult, it's Goldfinger. I grew up with
Roger Moore, so I have more of a personal affection
for the spy who loved me, and even the horrible
Moonraker because I remember my dad taking me to see
that movie.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, listen, the first half a Moonraker is watchable, but
when they get into space and they felt like they
had to do this because Star Wars was popular an
s ton of money, but the first half a Moonraker
is a lot of fun. And I gotta tell you,
Roger Moore's acting in Moonraker is about the best of
his acting in any of the Bond movies. Look at
that part where he gets out of the centrifuge and
he can barely stand up straight.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That's some acting there. And also when he was having
sex and zero G that was great acting.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I think he's attempting re entry, sir. That's the That's
a closing line of any of them. And my dad
took me to see that as a child. Poor father.
It's just a poor example. I will always be jealous
of you for that. What a cool experience it was.
It was. I will say that I am six forty.
We'll check in with George Dory in just a moment.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, and of course
I'll have my final thought after that.
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six fortyf.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I Mo Kelly and now George Nori. We're live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. And before we get out of here,
I just got to let you know. Each night during
the week, I do a final thought, some closing idea
or subject I want to cover, and some people have
asked me where can I find them? Well, we put
them all together in a podcast and I put it
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up on Friday, Thursday night, Friday morning, all of them
for week, so you can find them each week at
the end of the week on the podcast. So just
listen to the podcast or Dell of the podcast, you'll
find him.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
George good evening. What's coming up on the show tonight?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Most final A word?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I like that? By the way, thank you.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
We got a classic Coast to coast tonight, mister Kelly.
We're going to talk about biblical archaeology, and then later
on in the program and astrologer talks about the mess word.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Quick question.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Last segment, we were talking about James Bond and the
changeover as far as who controls the intellectual property?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Do you have a favorite Bond movie?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Gold Chinger was of course one of them, but you
only live twice and I like the music from all
of them. Yes, Now who is your favorite James Bond?
Mine was Sean Connory.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yes, yes, thank you very much, hands down, hands down,
Mark Rodner, hands down, no.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Argument for me. Sean Connery was the best and his
rugs were the best as well.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yes, my number two, my one A would have to
be Daniel Craig. He grew on me, not bad.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
George wasn't Pier was Pierce Bronson? One?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, he was for like a hot minute, like two
or three movies, so I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 10 (30:09):
That was Moneypenny, Lois Maxwell, cold Thing, Kert Frobe, what
do you got?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Works? Lurked? Was something else by George?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
All right, composure, This is kind of serious again. You
can catch all the final thoughts put together in one
podcast each Friday at the iHeartRadio app, Spotify YouTube spreaker,
where we get your podcasts. Earlier in the show, I
was talking about beazels and it disappointed me where we've
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progressed or regressed actually as a country. And I was
asking the question, did you know that one hundred and
seven thousand, five hundred people worldwide died from measles in
twenty twenty three, not infected, not hospitalized, but died from measles?
And did you also know that most of the one
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hundred and seven thousand, five hundred people who died from
measles were not only children, but under the age of five,
children under the age of five. Did you know that
about one in five unvaccinated people who get measles will
be hospitalized about twenty percent and one out of every
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one thousand people who are infected with measles will develop
brain swelling and quite possibly brain damage. And you probably think, well,
that's reassuring, that's not a very high percentage. All right,
Well how about this one in twenty that's five percent
of those infected will develop pneumonia. And we all know
about the complications of pneumonia and how it's pretty easy
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to die from pneumonia, especially with an advanced age. But
here's some other stats to at least consider. One to
three people of every thousand infected with measles will die
even with the best care. In other words, it doesn't
matter if it's in Asia, it doesn't matter if it's
in Ukraine, doesn't matter if it's in Africa, where most
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die from measles because they are the least vaccinated. One
in three who are infected out of a thousand will
die even with the best care. And it kind of
goes back to the whole asteroid hitting the earth and
the plane hitting the side of the mountain, analogy that
I often use. It may not be a high mortality
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rate until it involves your child and the possibility that
he or she might end up as one of the
one hundred and seven thousand, five hundred children worldwide who
dies of measles. There's just some things you don't play with.
There's some games you don't play. And I'm only talking
about those who are unvaccinated and infected. And speaking of unvaccinated,
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here's another step that I really want you to consider
on this evening. More than ninety percent of those who
were unvaccinated, including your unvaccinated children, and also come in
close proximity to someone infected with measles, will also become infected.
In other words, if you're unvaccinated and you come in
contact with someone who's infected with measles, there's a ninety
(33:28):
percent chance of you contracting measles. If you are elderly
and unvaccinated for measles, your outcomes, of course are worse,
worse in terms of contracting it to pneumonia, to brain
swelling and even death. And what bothers me the most
is we're not talking about a COVID vaccine, which was
(33:48):
relatively new. I say relatively because it's twenty twenty five now.
COVID was twenty nineteen and twenty twenty MMR measles, mumps,
and rubella. That vaccine has been around since nineteen sixty three.
That's longer than anyone on this show has been alive.
And my ass is getting old. It wasn't luck or
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heard immunity that measles had largely been eradicated. It was
because people still trusted science, still believed in doctors, and
that had not changed in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties
and so forth. Measles, polio, whooping cough, and others have
re emerged in twenty twenty five because we collectively stopped.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Believing in science.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
We the non doctors, the non physicians, believe that we
knew more than the doctors, than the virologists, the pathologists,
the immunologists, the epidemiologists. But here's the truth. We don't
actually know more. We just believe we know more, and
it ain't true. And because we have placed YouTube research
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over peer review studies, here we are dealing with another
measles outbreak in America. Two doses of the measles vaccine
are over ninety seven percent effective. Just in case math
and science are still welcome in this country, twenty YouTube
videos espousing the contrary are zero percent effective. Now it
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may be just me, but I'll choose the ninety seven
percent over the zero any day of the week. But
for you, choose wisely, for our children's and Grandmammy's sake.
For KFI AM six forty, I'm mo Kelly.
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And I am giddy because this is a time in
which there is so much good stuff to watch on
TV that I don't know where to start. I'm in
the second season of The Recruit, I'm in the second
season of The Night Agent. I'm now in the third
season of Reacher, which just dropped yesterday. And Reacher is
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so damn good. It's violent, it's vulgar, it is perfect.
It's everything a growing boy like me needs. And usually
by season three with most shows, especially on streaming, they
start mailing it in or they start running out of
stories to tell.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Not so with Reacher. And if you don't know Reacher.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Reacher is based on Lee Child's popular book series about
this drifter who draws upon his experience as a former
army major to uncover corruption and conspiracies all around the country.
He's he's he doesn't have an address. He just kind
of drifts from city to city. He has a network
of other operators that he'll work with from time to time,
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but for the most part, he's just out there drifting
around the country. And part of the reason I think
why the movies with Tom Cruise didn't really work is
if you have any familiarity with the character.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Rich is supposed to be a big ass dude.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He's supposed to be, you know, he's man handling all
these criminals and Tom Cruise is not that he didn't
have the on screen persona for that, but Alan Richson,
he embodies the character and he's just dispensing with fools
left and right. I think the series dropped yesterday at midnight.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Was it Wednesday night?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I don't know, but I started watching it after midnight
last night. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I started watching it this morning and the first three
episodes dropped.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Let me just play some of the trailer real quick.
Never been so jealous of a fort in my lege.
You have any thoughts on dessert? Best to reach Jim.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
We're looking into the owner of a rug import business
called let me guess DA.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Thinks needs in business with bad people. You know, I
thought I killed him years ago. What did he do
to you? He didn't do anything to me. Maybe we
can help each other upon way, I have a plan
undercovering format.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
You are done, mister Riach here record it's impressive.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
French press proves nothing. I'll go on the pad Rika
d I thought sorry and slipped Welcome to the team, Reacher.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I mean, and it's if you haven't seen a series,
you want to watch it from season one.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
It's not exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Episodic and chronological, but they're Each season is a season
long arc story that they tell, and it's almost like
levels on a video game. You know, you have to
fight the big boss at the end. It progresses much
like a video game. Alan Richson, he's kind of Arnold
Schwarzenegger in the way that he's deadpanned how he delivers
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his lines. Obviously, there's a physical analog because he's very muscular,
and there's a running joke where he's always pumped up
in a muscular way, but you never see him lift weights,
and that's part of the reason why they have that
joke where he thinks weightlifting is a joke, but it's like,
how do you get so big, dude without lifting weights?
He's a behemoth facing off another behemoth in this season.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, for a drifter with no home, he must have
a gym membership someplace, like some sort of La fitness
card that he can use wherever he goes in the country.
I also I like that Richmon seems to be much
more comfortable in the role now than he was at first.
It's a character you like hanging out and spending time with.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Even though he probably the character would probably not be
likable in real life. You like the character even though
that he's killing just about everyone who comes in his path.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well, you wouldn't like James Bond in real life either.
What's attractive about Reacher is that he is one hundred
percent a fantasy superhero character who tells people off exactly
like you would want to. But you can't kick every
single person's ass like he can. And he he doesn't
have a boss to answer to. I mean, he's a drifter.
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He's not encumbered by any of the things that we
and the audience are. Pardon my ignorance, but is is
this Reacher the same one as the one that John
Krasinski was? Is it like different?
Speaker 7 (05:10):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
That was Ryan?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Oh okay, well I guess with that, Like, are they
just different iterations like Bond?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Is that kind of like what they do?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The only other.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Iteration of this of Reacher was Tom Cruise. He did
the two movies. Okay, yeah, it was Mini Reacher, right,
And that's part of the reason I was saying that
the movies didn't sit right because if you know anything
about the character, it just doesn't fit. It was it
was miscast, having nothing to do with Tom Cruise's acting ability.
A big component of this character is his size. It's
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a running theme that everyone comments about his size.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So it is kind of like just their version of it,
the one that you guys are watching.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Now, Well, this is the Amazon Prime version, if you
want to call it a version, But I think it's
more accurate and true.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I think if I understand the root of Fusha's question, Yes,
all the shows that we love are essentially the same show.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
No, No, I was just I was just curious because
I got confused with Reacher and Jack Ryan. But now
I'm kind of now I'm getting Yeah, Jack Ryan's a.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Humble CIA analyst who swept into Grand Adventures. Reacher is
just a big brute.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
But to Stephan's point, if you think about Jack Ryan,
they've had like four or five different versions, from Kazinski
to Ben Affleck to Harrison Ford, you know, Chris pine Pine.
Speaker 9 (06:29):
As a matter of fact, Yeah, the interesting thing about
the Tom Cruise Reacher movies is that his size did
play a significant role in that in every movie, every
time someone met him, they always said, I thought you'd
be the bigger right, which was a joke on the
fact that Tom Cruise was aware of the fact that
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he was not the behemoth he was supposed to be,
and he tried to play more slick, smart, outwitting individuals
and not get into fisticuffs with people, even though he
could handle himself. Feels more like, no, I'm a smart Reacher,
I avoid this and I sit you up to take
the fall. Yeah, this Reacher is my Reacher.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Alan Richson.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Obviously, it takes a while for an actor to find
the right role, for an actor to really show what
he or she can do.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
What was the TV show the DC Titans Titans?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
He was great on Titan, He was Grand Titans, but
he was overshadowed by too many other people on that
show because it's a huge ensemble.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
But he was great in the moments that he was
able to do anything.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, there wasn't that much for him to do on
the show. But this is all him.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
And he has this facial expression where it never changes.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
His facial expression never changes.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
But that's a part of the acting where despite all
the craziness going on around him.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
He is always cool, calm and collected.
Speaker 9 (07:51):
Did you know that he was originally going to be
and not even originally he was Aquaman in the Smallville
I mean in the Superman series Smallville, and they were
going to do an Aquaman series with him. They shot
a pilot. It's just they were just Smallville was running
on fumes by that time. They're like, nah, we don't
need to do it Aquaman series.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Look, if he were not so bulked up, I would
I could see him as Batman in a heartbeat.
Speaker 9 (08:17):
They keep ever, fan casting unanimously has him cast as
the older, more gruff Batman in the new James Gun universe,
which is taking place where Batman is older, more established,
and he's got his son and all that. Everyone is like, dude,
he could play Bruce Wayne. He could play Batman, except
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he's too damn big.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He's too big now.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And also, yeah, he'd have to play the older Batman
because even in Reacher season three, you can see just
a little bit of gray coming in on his beard.
You can't hide his age. He's not like an old dude,
but still he's not thirty year old Batman. Bruce Wayne
running around the city. No, man is not a giant bodybuilder.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
No, no, no, But he could still do this role
for as long as he's willing to keep it up.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He could make a career out of Reacher.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
The question is when do they do a movie with him,
because I think it's begging for a movie. They're doing
the SPT off with Neely, so you have a Reacher
universe which you could easily turn into a movie. I
think most of these streaming platforms are like breeding grounds
for future movies. You can talk about Cobra Kai and
how that has now produced an audience which would support
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a movie.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Again, the thing is though, that since it's on Amazon,
what could you do in a movie that you couldn't
do on Amazon? They can have to sell tickets, They
could have dirty words, nudity or violence or anything on
Amazon that you could have in a movie.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
But hopefully they would have a bigger budget because as
much as they didn't have a small budget for this,
because there are some car stunts and certain things that
you can tell that kind of costs some money, it's
still not movie quality.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh, by the way, what do you think about Anthony
Michael Hall from The Breakfast Club as the old heavy
in this.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, I think that's Tony. What I think it's Tony.
What are you talking about? Let me see, let me see,
let me see Michael Hall, the cute kid.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
No, it is Anthony, Michael Hall. Thought it was Tony.
So Tony from Lon or SVU. No, I'm just looking
it up. Take your time, it's just radio. No, just
keep talking.
Speaker 9 (10:25):
Look Mark, So Anthony Michael Hall, the Breakfast the Breakfast Club,
and now he's an old heavy. You say, well, yeah,
and he's, by the way, he's not a small guy.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I've passed him on the street. Uh, He's is Anthony.
He's a pretty big dude. And reacherd dwarfs him. But yeah,
it's odd to Anthony's geting some weight. It's odd for
me to see him as an older guy. Now he
is literally guy. Yeah, I mean he's almost unrecognizable.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, that's that's disappointing. Day.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
No, wait what he did because Breakfast Club is my
teenage childhood. Okay, so we're around the same age. Okay,
So to see him hitting older man status is a
self realization, That's all I'm saying. Okay, it's not a
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diss on him.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I'm about to say, man, that's kind of cold.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Let's talk Popeye when we come back. Let's just change
the subject. Okay, let's not talk about my age. Kim
six forty. We live everywhere in the I Heeart radio app.
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Mister Kelly live everywhere in the iHeart radio app. And
we remember Popeye. Everybody remembers Popeye. I'm talking about the cartoon,
not the movie with Robin Williams, which was fine, Shelley Duvall.
I'm talking about the cartoon and Bluto slash Brutus, whose
name changed for reasons I'm not exactly sure. And what
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was it, Whimpy, I'd gladly pay you tuesdays. Yeah, And
he kept getting over, how much did you do you
think owed thousands of dollars? I'm sure there's a Reddit
thread that someone. I wonder how many times he said
that in all the cartoons. But anyhow, we had talked
over the years about how different intellectual property falls back
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into public domain.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I think it's maybe seventy five years.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
After seventy five years or so, and Popeye is the
latest to do that. It happened with Winnie the Pooh,
it happened with a version of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.
And with those you had independent filmmakers who turned around
and turned those characters into subjects for horror movies. Somewhat
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funny actually because they were slasher flicks, but the stayed
true to the characters outside of that. Well, once again
it has happened, but this time with Popeye the Sailor Man.
And I don't know if and when this movie's ever
coming out, but there is a trailer for it called
Popeye's Let me just let you know. It looks really
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really bad. I mean, god awful, bad, dime store bad.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I will watch it.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I know. It doesn't even look like it was shot
on an iPhone.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
It looks so horrible and it will make money.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It all started with a screen.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I don't know why this Popeye movie is set
in Australia or New Zealand or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It just throws me off. It all started with a screen.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
You know he's coming when the folk grows in its
fifteen years ago, the little boy they called Popeye drowned.
Let's see if Popeye is got wants to play with
But I think I just saw someone.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
What are you doing driving down here?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
There's nothing down here?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Popular brand and old house. Yeah, Popeye's house. So my
parents own the place.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Now that is a nice Now Popeye is running through
the woods killing teens who are having sex.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
In every imaginable way.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What volume, eyeballs popping out, slitting people's throats. Popeyes Revenge
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coming to a theater near you, you know what.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I was hoping to hear that little I laugh at
the end of the killings.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It may be in there. I don't know. Are these
spinach fueled murders?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, yes, there's a can of spinach which rolls on
the floor. It takes place in like a factory, right,
something like that. Part of the killings, Yeah, I don't know,
but it looks like it's the Australian Outback or something.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Tell spinach makes me want to kill two, so I'm
first in line for this.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, the spinach does play a role. I don't know what.
Something about.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's almost like Jason Vorhees, he drowned fifteen years ago
or something, and he's come back. He's a full grown
man and it's the full the thick forearms with the
anchor tattoo on his forearms, so it's Popeye.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Maybe we'll get an origin for the enormous forearms.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
That's the part that for me when I saw that
was probably the most comical part was his arms.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
But it's cartoon character Popeye. It's yeah, those are forearms.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Though in the cartoon you always suspect, and now we
know he could bludge in somebody to death with those.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And that's what I never understood.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Why Popeye needed the spinach to beat the hell out
of Brutus.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Did he really he should? Brutus was never in shape.
Popeye was in the Navy.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
He should have been mopping him every single day, twice
on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, they didn't understand that it's the big guys who
are really the slow ones.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Brute didn't seem like he had any type of fighting ability.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
True, They just made it seem like because he's so
much bigger than him.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But yeah, Pape could have taken him.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Brutus was soft as he used his size as it determinent.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah he was.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He was a bully and he assumed no one would
ever fight him back. And if I'm Popeye, I'm just
eating spinach all the.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Time, you know, if that's the key to just eat spinach.
Is there a tagline for this cheap pile of number two?
Not that I can tell, because it would have to
be something like I am what I am? A killer?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Hopefully it's in there, but it wasn't in the trailer. Okay,
you know they did have heake. That's what I'm hoping for,
like stuff said, but no, it wasn't in the trailer.
But if it's true to the Popeye character in the
way the visuals were because it looked like Popeye, then
it'll probably be in the movie somewhere. But there's no
way I'm paying money or paying time to see this.
(17:16):
From Sailor to Slayer, I am so in Oh, come on,
I see this. You are a cheap You are a
cheap day let me tell you no.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, this has a lot of potential, and I hope
people from all corners take advantage of this public domain
Popeye stuff. Also, I used to love the old cartoons,
especially in the older black and white ones. He was
constantly muttering to himself, and I'd love to see him
do that while while he's stalking and killing people.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Looking at Popeye through adult eyes Popeye obviously had a
lot of issues, a lot of issues. I don't know
if it was PTSD.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
From World War One. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But the things you see when you're in the open
water like that, Yeah, of course that would damage his psyche.
He I can't wait to see this, just like the
Winnie the Pooh, what was it? Blood and honey, Yes,
blood and honey. I mean, I'm not saying it was good.
Please don't say that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That one took a minute to That took me like
two weekends to finish that movie.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
But you can see now this is the tread now
the future, Yeah, this is the future. Everything which falls
in public domain will end up as a slasher story.
I would prefer a porno, but that's just me. Oh
that's on the way, and uh, we're going to see
olive oil. That's what I wondered. There's nothing which said
to me olive oil in that trailer.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well maybe they're saving that. Well hopefully you can't reveal
every single thing in the trailer.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
It was a bad movie. There's nothing to hold back.
You should give it all up right now.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think we should plan on a dude's night out
to go to the Popeye movie. But I doubt it's
going to be in any theater anything now.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's probably not going to be shown anywhere on your phone.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Oh but when we come back, Mark Rouner, I definitely
need you because there is a major James Bond intellectual
will property update that I need.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Got to have your opinion on. It's big news, big, big, big,
big news, and it's going to make you very angry.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Oh, I've been angry all day.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
James Bond something we've discussed here on Later with Mo
Kelly any number of times, and the last time we
discussed it, we were wondering out loud what was going
to happen with the James Bond franchise because there was
a lot of friction between the producers who owned the
intellectual property, the copyright, and also Amazon Studios. Because short
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story is, Amazon wanted to create this whole Bond universe
and spin off characters, and the owners of the IP,
Barbara Brockley and her half brother Michael G. Wilson, were
pushing back on that thought it would cheapen the brand.
We'll come to find out today that Amazon mgbstudent and
(20:01):
the longtime producers of the James Bond film franchise, the
aforementioned Barbara Broccley and her half brother Michael Wilson, said
that they made a deal that will give Amazon creative
control of the British super spy series. And I know, Mark,
you are not happy about that at all. No, it's
(20:22):
the first thing I woke up to. It put me
in a rotten mood all day. I gotta tell you,
because we know that, Okay. Barbara Brockley is the daughter
of Kubby Broccoli, who was the producer who made Bond
big in the first place, back in the sixties, and
they've been in charge of Bond since I guess the nineties,
is it?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And I got to tell you, I haven't always agreed
with every single thing they've done with Bond. I think
their movies have been real hit and miss. But it
was reported that Barbara had actually referred to the Amazon
people as fing idiots, and so that doesn't exactly fill
you with confidence about what is to come. I mean,
I don't know how big a Bond fan you are, Mo,
(21:04):
but I have been my whole life, and I still
am as an aging man. It just I think that
with Amazon in charge, Bond won't be as special. They're
going to dilute it. It's going to be more ordinary.
Bond films have always been a huge event. Those are
like the bespoke action adventure films of all time.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
This is a money grab.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I get the sense, not knowing the players, I get
the sense that Barbara Brockley just threw up her hands
and said, I give up, if only because she was
holding on so tight prior to this, and very very
specific and particular about what the Bond franchise meant, how
it was going to be used in the future, and
(21:50):
what it was not going to be. And I never
suspected that they were going to do anything that Amazon
MGM wanted to do. It just seemed completely anesthetical to
her vision of the character.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, and even if I'm not a fan of everything
Barbara Brockley and Michael Wilson have done with Bond, I
really admired them telling Amazon to go pound sand, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And they did tell them that.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
So it was even more surprising to think that they
came to some sort of agreement when in an vision,
since they couldn't have been further apart and to allow
then what I perceived as Amazon getting the go ahead
and the green light to spend out this Bond universe.
I don't want to see a quote unquote Bond Girl
(22:33):
TV show. I don't want to see a Bond Villain
series because the James Bond universe begins and ends with
James Bond.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You're gonna get a Moneypenny mini series, You're gonna get
a a Felix Lighter mini series, all of it. They're
not gonna leave any corner untouched.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
But we've seen this with other intellectual property like use Batman.
For example, we had a Gotham series that didn't have
Batman in it. We had a Pennyworth series that didn't
have Batman in it. You had this Rogues gallery and
you've seen it with Spider Man in the Sony universe.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It always fails.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Now, it will make money for the company, but to
your point, it definitely dilutes the brand. The Sony Spider
verset diluted the Spider Man brand.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
They may surprise us, I mean, odds are that some
of it is going to have to be watchable or decent,
like that Pennyworth series you're talking about was really good,
but nobody saw it because it was on some obscure
streaming service.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Evans, Yeah, thank you for because we interviewed the star.
Oh yeah, Jack Bammon.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, he's great, he's really good, perfect Alfred. But so
some of this stuff might be okay, And of course
a lot of it's going to depend on who they
pick as the next Bond. And I don't know about you,
but I haven't seen a single person who I thought, oh, yeah,
that's got to be the guy.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Supposedly was going to be Aaron Taylor Johnson. And I'm
quite sure Craven did not help that out.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, don't put Craven at the top of your resume.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
And they and they've waited so long, which says to
me there isn't anyone who they like for the character.
They would have chosen that person by now.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, Henry Cavill's name has been floated around for a
long time, but he's too famous now. Bond is traditionally
not a huge star when he takes the role. Even
Roger Moore wasn't huge when he took the role. He
was a TV star. Nobody knew who Sean Connery was.
George Lazenby was a male model who just walked in
off the street and had so much nerve that that's
what impressed Broccoli. But also Bond was usually slight in build.
(24:40):
He was certainly wasn't a giant bodybuilder. I mean, if
you read the books, his workout regimen is a couple
weeks next swimming before for a mission.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, and maybe having sex. That's about it. Well, I
can be exercise if you do it correctly.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
But James Bond, and part of his allura I think
was because he was always fighting villains or henchman much
bigger than him, be an odd Job or Jaws. He
was at a physical disadvantage. Yeah, you got to kind
of differentiate between the books and the movies. Like in
the movie he just chokes Goldfinger to death. There's no
getting sucked out of a plane window. But yeah, I
(25:16):
mean he's always outmatched. And that's one thing I think
that a lot of their recent movies have gotten wrong.
Bond is no team player. He is alone. He is
a loner. There's something not right about him mentally. He
is the kind of person who is recruited for that
kind of job. He's an orphan. Well, he's a sociopath
and a psychopath. I don't know if he is those things,
but he's not a nice guy. And what was cool
(25:38):
about Bond way back when Doctor No came out was like,
here's kind of a different hero.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You don't want to go have a beer with this guy.
You send him out on a mission and then you
just wait for the bodies to pile up.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
He was I wouldn't say he was all the way
an anti hero, but he was adjacent to anti hero.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, he was inspired by Paul Piro's And you've got
to remember that there's absolutely no way those books and
especially the movies were meant to be taken as serious
spy things like John Lecarey. They're pulp fantasies. They're over
the top, they're ridiculous, and there's a lot of elements.
I mean, the movies are just completely over the top,
insane productions. But there are things like you know, the
(26:18):
Garden of Death with all the killer plants. In one
of the books, I think it's You Only Live Twice,
but there's a lot. It was never meant to be
anything other than cartoonish adventures. They're not serious books or movies,
but it's okay.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
That that art evolves, or our perception of that art evolves.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I love them.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean I'll watch every Bond thing that exists, and
like everybody, I've got my favorites. What's your favorite Bond movie? Mom, Oh,
it's Goulldfinger. Nothing is close. Remember why I texted you.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I said, hey, you know the irradiated gold would have
not been irradiated anymore because I like, it was like
forty eight years they talk about in the movie, and
so I think forty eight years have passed.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I love Goldfinger, and it's definitely the one that solidified
the formula. I think a close second is On Her
Majesty's Secret Service. Yes, absolutely perfect adventure movie.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, I don't know, but see the movies that I
like as an adult, it's Goldfinger. I grew up with
Roger Moore, so I have more of a personal affection
for the spy who loved me, and even the horrible
Moonraker because I remember my dad taking me to see
that movie.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, listen, the first half a Moonraker is watchable, but
when they get into space and they felt like they
had to do this because Star Wars was popular an
s ton of money, but the first half a Moonraker
is a lot of fun. And I gotta tell you,
Roger Moore's acting in Moonraker is about the best of
his acting in any of the Bond movies. Look at
that part where he gets out of the centrifuge and
he can barely stand up straight.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
That's some acting there. And also when he was having
sex and zero G that was great acting.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I think he's attempting re entry, sir. That's the That's
a closing line of any of them. And my dad
took me to see that as a child. Poor father.
It's just a poor example. I will always be jealous
of you for that. What a cool experience it was.
It was. I will say that I am six forty.
We'll check in with George Dory in just a moment.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, and of course
I'll have my final thought after that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six fortyf.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I Mo Kelly and now George Nori. We're live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. And before we get out of here,
I just got to let you know. Each night during
the week, I do a final thought, some closing idea
or subject I want to cover, and some people have
asked me where can I find them? Well, we put
them all together in a podcast and I put it
(28:56):
up on Friday, Thursday night, Friday morning, all of them
for week, so you can find them each week at
the end of the week on the podcast. So just
listen to the podcast or Dell of the podcast, you'll
find him.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
George good evening. What's coming up on the show tonight?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Most final A word?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I like that? By the way, thank you.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
We got a classic Coast to coast tonight, mister Kelly.
We're going to talk about biblical archaeology, and then later
on in the program and astrologer talks about the mess word.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Quick question.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Last segment, we were talking about James Bond and the
changeover as far as who controls the intellectual property?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Do you have a favorite Bond movie?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Gold Chinger was of course one of them, but you
only live twice and I like the music from all
of them. Yes, Now who is your favorite James Bond?
Mine was Sean Connory.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yes, yes, thank you very much, hands down, hands down,
Mark Rodner, hands down, no.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Argument for me. Sean Connery was the best and his
rugs were the best as well.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yes, my number two, my one A would have to
be Daniel Craig. He grew on me, not bad.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
George wasn't Pier was Pierce Bronson? One?
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yes, he was for like a hot minute, like two
or three movies, so I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 10 (30:09):
That was Moneypenny, Lois Maxwell, cold Thing, Kert Frobe, what
do you got?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Works? Lurked? Was something else by George?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
All right, composure, This is kind of serious again. You
can catch all the final thoughts put together in one
podcast each Friday at the iHeartRadio app, Spotify YouTube spreaker,
where we get your podcasts. Earlier in the show, I
was talking about beazels and it disappointed me where we've
(30:51):
progressed or regressed actually as a country. And I was
asking the question, did you know that one hundred and
seven thousand, five hundred people worldwide died from measles in
twenty twenty three, not infected, not hospitalized, but died from measles?
And did you also know that most of the one
(31:13):
hundred and seven thousand, five hundred people who died from
measles were not only children, but under the age of five,
children under the age of five. Did you know that
about one in five unvaccinated people who get measles will
be hospitalized about twenty percent and one out of every
(31:36):
one thousand people who are infected with measles will develop
brain swelling and quite possibly brain damage. And you probably think, well,
that's reassuring, that's not a very high percentage. All right,
Well how about this one in twenty that's five percent
of those infected will develop pneumonia. And we all know
about the complications of pneumonia and how it's pretty easy
(31:57):
to die from pneumonia, especially with an advanced age. But
here's some other stats to at least consider. One to
three people of every thousand infected with measles will die
even with the best care. In other words, it doesn't
matter if it's in Asia, it doesn't matter if it's
in Ukraine, doesn't matter if it's in Africa, where most
(32:19):
die from measles because they are the least vaccinated. One
in three who are infected out of a thousand will
die even with the best care. And it kind of
goes back to the whole asteroid hitting the earth and
the plane hitting the side of the mountain, analogy that
I often use. It may not be a high mortality
(32:39):
rate until it involves your child and the possibility that
he or she might end up as one of the
one hundred and seven thousand, five hundred children worldwide who
dies of measles. There's just some things you don't play with.
There's some games you don't play. And I'm only talking
about those who are unvaccinated and infected. And speaking of unvaccinated,
(33:03):
here's another step that I really want you to consider
on this evening. More than ninety percent of those who
were unvaccinated, including your unvaccinated children, and also come in
close proximity to someone infected with measles, will also become infected.
In other words, if you're unvaccinated and you come in
contact with someone who's infected with measles, there's a ninety
(33:28):
percent chance of you contracting measles. If you are elderly
and unvaccinated for measles, your outcomes, of course are worse,
worse in terms of contracting it to pneumonia, to brain
swelling and even death. And what bothers me the most
is we're not talking about a COVID vaccine, which was
(33:48):
relatively new. I say relatively because it's twenty twenty five now.
COVID was twenty nineteen and twenty twenty MMR measles, mumps,
and rubella. That vaccine has been around since nineteen sixty three.
That's longer than anyone on this show has been alive.
And my ass is getting old. It wasn't luck or
(34:11):
heard immunity that measles had largely been eradicated. It was
because people still trusted science, still believed in doctors, and
that had not changed in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties
and so forth. Measles, polio, whooping cough, and others have
re emerged in twenty twenty five because we collectively stopped.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Believing in science.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
We the non doctors, the non physicians, believe that we
knew more than the doctors, than the virologists, the pathologists,
the immunologists, the epidemiologists. But here's the truth. We don't
actually know more. We just believe we know more, and
it ain't true. And because we have placed YouTube research
(35:01):
over peer review studies, here we are dealing with another
measles outbreak in America. Two doses of the measles vaccine
are over ninety seven percent effective. Just in case math
and science are still welcome in this country, twenty YouTube
videos espousing the contrary are zero percent effective. Now it
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may be just me, but I'll choose the ninety seven
percent over the zero any day of the week. But
for you, choose wisely, for our children's and Grandmammy's sake.
For KFI AM six forty, I'm mo Kelly.
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