August 20, 2025 • 30 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the flurry of lawsuits against the makers of Ozempic…PLUS – Mo’ reviews the new Billy Joel Documentary “And So it Goes” AND contrary to popular belief actor Kevin Spacey has not been canceled - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six Fortyfi.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Mister Kelly Full Life Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app. I often
talk about unintended consequences are also the long view of history,
not how something feels right now.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It always is true with politics.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You say, yes, this is great for America, and then
you realize three four months, three four years down the
road that it's not great for America. Or rubble taxis
some people like Twalve Sharps saying oh, we got to
have it, we gotta have it now is as great.
It's going to revolutionize transportation and rite sharing as we
know it. And I always say I'm a little more
(00:49):
cautious than most. I've said it with all forms of technology.
I'm usually a slow adopter. I'm slow on the uptick
because I think about long term. Is is something that
is really good for us? Like I've only used Airbnb
once once. Don't look at me like that, Nick, I'm
being serious. I've only used it once, just once.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Once. It was literally almost.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Look I I like the dependability and the certainty of
if I picked the phone, I can get room service.
I know that someone is going to be cleaning the
room at an appointed time.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Necessarily worry about the hidden cameras as much as a
private residence, we don't have the type of oversight. Sure,
I got you, Okay, I would rather just deal with
the known issues of a hotel. And I say all
that to say, I thought immediately in the moment, especially
(01:49):
when it comes to the pharmaceutical industry, when something is
used what it's called off label, not for its original
intended use.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, like you had these blood pressure drugs.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
All of a sudden they realized that men were getting erections,
and all of a sudden, viagran and cialis were born.
And now you know, that was an off label use
that wasn't the original intended use of it. And now
it's a mixed bag as far as the long term
implications of the use of those drugs. I thought the
exact same thing when ozimpic and zep bound came out
Monjarro whatever they are, the you know, the GLP one drugs,
(02:25):
and people were losing all sorts of weight and like congratulations,
and they were losing it relatively quickly. I have a
number of friends who use it, a number so I'm
not speaking in an abstract sense, but I knew it's like, hm, yeah,
short term benefit. I don't know long term whether it's
going to be good for anyone and everyone. And now
(02:48):
as we get further down the road, as they say,
we're learning about some of the long term complications and implications.
More than two thousand people have filed lawsuits target getting
o zipic and zep bound, and the claims are the
drugs caused dangerous and sometimes permanent health problems.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Central to the lawsuits or claims that patients developed gastroparesis,
a condition sometimes called stomach paralysis. Other patients reported intestinal
obstruction that's bad, Persistent vomiting that's not good, gall Letterer
disease ooh, that's horrible. And vision loss tied to non
are territitic.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Anterior schemic optic neuropathy. Damn. That's a lot to say.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Easy for you to say, I know somebody who was
on that and had that trouble. How long were they
using the eye trouble. How long were they using it
before they had issues?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Months perhaps, Okay, so that's not long in the grand
scheme of things. You're not like talking about years of
use and then you know, you develop liver problems or something. No,
this is something which is you know, after a few months,
that's relatively quick.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, just another proof of the old truism that there's
no real shortcuts.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Nothing worthwhile is easy. You're gonna say twelve.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I was just curious as to why it took so
long for this to come out. I remember when the
drug first hit and I talked to my doctor about
just because there's so many people that I knew they
were on it, and he told and he kind of chuckled,
and he said, it is amazing how many people don't
realize using it in this way as a weight loss drug,
(04:33):
what it's doing to your stomach, how it's causing your
stomach to basically dissolve anything that comes in. But it
liquefies everything and you get like, you can get permanent diarrhea,
all type permanent Yeah, yeah, just where where you will
never have a solid bow movement again, just constant, just
water washing.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Out you ew. Yeah, permanent diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I mean, that's a good band name, but I don't
want it real life.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I mean, but you know, you could also have stomach paralysis,
which is where your stomach is.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's a good unable to really move. I mean, yeah, man,
look and I remember my father.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I guess this is where I got the line of
thinking from because he was a slow adopter of technology too.
It's like, you know, not everything as it's as it seems. Yeah,
it seems like a good idea, but let's just wait
long term to see what it's going to be. And
I would usually the one who get up caught up
in the hypes. Oh no, it's great, it's fantastic, it's
going to change the world. It's like sow down Sun.
(05:38):
And this is a more example of that. I mean, yes,
I would love people to be able to lose weight.
I would love people to have the Holy Grail and
and and forever change people's lives. And to be fair,
a number of people's lives have been changed for the
better through use of this drug, and it can't be argued.
(05:59):
But also, oh, here's the perfect example. I will never
get laser surgery. Oh the I will never get lasik.
Oh tell me about that. Why I know too much?
You know, I've had friends who've gotten the procedure, and
(06:21):
what providers don't tell you is there are complications far
more often than what is divulged to the public.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And even though I have.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Horrible eyesight, horrible eyes and problems my whole life, and
it's been recommended that I get lasik, It's like, no,
I'm not trading the possibility of one problem for another.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Are there reports that after laser you can see through
dimensional barriers like in HP Lovecrafts of the Beyond?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, but there are reports of your site being permanently
ruined even worse. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a reason you
don't really hear that rash of commercials about coming get
you a lasick for twenty five percent off each eye.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
You're not really hearing a lot of those like you
were once upon a time.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, with any new procedure, you kind of want to
wait for all the bad stuff to shake out and
become known, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, And that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
House also it has to do with the long term implications,
and people may have had a successful procedure and then
you learn about the side effects and the aging of
the lens in your eye and you realize, Okay, it's
actually worse than what it was beforehand, and something else.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, it doesn't age well with you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You know, you still have to get reading glasses and
so forth, and you might have to have the procedure
redone after fifteen twenty years.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
People will go to great lengths to stave off the
natural effects of aging like a human being.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, and I would love to have better eyes. But
you know, and this kind of connects to the ozimbic craze.
There's just certain things I'm not going to risk. I'm
not And I think people are learning now the law,
long term implications and the consequences of the uses of
these drugs.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And there's gonna be more.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We have two thousand lawsuits already come back in the year.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What do you think is going to be You think
that it's going to end with that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You think that it's going to be cured with just
these two thousand people and these class action lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh no, They're gonna be plenty, plenty more. It's all
part of the bigger picture. It ties in completely with
the AI bubble breaking right now. Everybody thinks they can
get something for nothing or something for no effort. It
doesn't work out well in the end. Okay, go ahead
and say it. It's time for the news, mom, No, no,
gas ass. I want you to say it, gas ass,
(08:42):
grass or ass.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Nobody rides for free.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Can't i mister Kelly here live every morning Heart Radio
app And when I get off for tonight, I'm going
to run home or drive home, get home as quickly
as possible and turn on episode three of Alien Earth Mark.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Have you seen it yet?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
No, it didn't drop till five today. I was trying
to watch it last night.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, you and me both, I mean, and I said
I might have some time for the show, and it's like, no,
I didn't want to half pay attention to it and
also try to get ready for a show.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Now this requires your full attention. It's that good.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It is that good. And also, Tony, what are you
watching right about now?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
That's probably just another YouTube documentary about a video game
or something things like that. You need to broaden your
horizons because opening that live happened earlier today. That's what
I'm gonna watch when I get home. Which is a
games common Germany is because so it's like trailers for
all the games coming out the next year.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So how do you have time to work giving your
gaming persona.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I don't game as much as I have games. I
have my giant backlog of games. I will get to
the them sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You have games, you have pinball machines, have arcade, a
veritable arcade at home.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
We're working with Peter Pan. He refuses to grow up. Well,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I just can I ask you to semi personal questions,
and I'm going to ask you anyway, no matter what
regards whatever you said close to being married.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Grandpause. Well okay, how about this? How about this? Did
you ever meet a woman and you thought she might
be the one? Yes? Okay, have you ever been engaged? No?
They dlped me pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Did the woman have staples like on her stomach? I mean,
was it a centerfold? Oh that's what I said, that
she had a lot of piercings. But oh gosh, I
thought you like, did she have gastric bypass? Was it
an actual three dimensional woman or something in a magazine?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
They're all actual? They just whatever, It just doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay. What's the longest relationship you've been in that you
both recognize and acknowledged?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Six years? I'd say it was six with her. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Were you comparable in age? Yeah, she was a little
younger than me. Okay, was she legal? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is yeah, just got she met in college. And
did you live in the same place that you do now?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, it's been that long. Is this place a reaction
to that? Yes? Great question?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, no, no, no, I mean she.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
We weren't by the time I bought my house.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
She wed her. Just we're talking once in a while,
you know, drifting apart kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Are you friends on Facebook? Presently? She follows me on Instagram? Oh,
let's get her on the show. Yeah. No. When was
the last time you talked to her in person? Oh? God,
fifteen years ago?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, if you had the chance, no strings, to hit
it one more time, would you no?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You sure about that? Yes? Decisive? Did it end amicably
or was it a bad breakup? Okay? I just stopped?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
How about that? I'm like done and that was it?
But you're still would you be friendly if you passed
each other? I have it had to end, that's all.
Talk about it, like as a class in college, like
had to end its June or something.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
What did you know? What did you know that it
had to end?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Well, that's it. I'll tell you. An event happened that
made me go, that's it. I'm done with this. Well
you know ed is a medical stuff. Sorry, I just
said the best with you? No, okay? Was it something
that she did? Things are happening. She did a thing,
(13:17):
and I'm just like, you know what, I'm done. Things
are happening. She did a thing, and she killed the
relationship as far as you were concerned. I just I
finally like the switch flipped, or like, I don't need
to go in this circle anymore because it was.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It was really good and really bad. How about that?
Did she ask you back at any point? Yes?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Oh, you put it on her, didn't you. I'm like,
but again, once I flipped the switch, it was over.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm done.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
And again nothing against her. It just it would never
have worked out for us. Does she listen to KF.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I I hope not. Doctor Nick.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
What do you think of all the times that we
need to have the if you can most the only
one that could see my facial expression?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh my goodness, wow, Tony, I've learned more about him
in the past four minutes. So I did the past
fourteen years.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I was gonna say, and if you be tune in
here on KFI, Tony is always around. You've heard him
on every show that's been on the station. But I
guarantee that this is the most you've ever heard about
Tony's life. I'm sorry, no, no.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, no no no. Let me ask you this. Did you
ever start the process of buying a ring? No? No,
no no.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That's money you could spend on a gaming console. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (14:36):
I'm just what consoles don't cost that much? Thought process
depends on the woman on the cabinet. Games and the pinball.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Or the pachinko. Yeah, the pachinko game. They're actually sientifically
cheaper than any ring. I've got a ring? Okay, how
much is a ring?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
What kind of ring? Are we talking? Obviously above cracker jack?
Like you know that kind of thing, right, I don't
even know how much ring normally costs? Say, you'd have
to tell me.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, okay, how about this. We're playing twenty questions? Has
there been anyone close since that time?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You're getting a little personal here.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I would like to think too, but both of them
just had enough of me when that was the end
of it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Did they come by your house and just say hell no.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
No, they're both totally okay with it. But actually the
last one she thought it was cool and what did
you do?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
This didn't work out? I did you meet the last one?
Real quick?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
My friend met her and said, oh, you two would
be great together, and we met at and then we
met up at a concert because we both like the
same band and she liked the band. That is obscure
enough that anyone who likes this band, it's like we're
now friends.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
How long did it last? That one was all enough
for a year and a half.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
And where are they now?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I don't know, Okay, but I liked her more.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think she tried to like me and she just didn't,
you know, give yourself more credit.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You wouldn't like you?
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Come on, okay, grappling hook cloud.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
I didn't mind king that's fine, that's very popular in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
But you know, I think I think she had you know,
because I'm yeah, whatever, but yeah, it didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think she tried to like me and didn't you know,
one of.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Those things year and a half off and on she
that was more than trying six feet tall?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Did you scale her? I said, grappling hook, so probably.
I was like, no, I love the climbing equipment, yeah,
I had.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That was fine.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
I got to ask a really inappropriate model. I can
just ask one more. Okay again, I'm sorry everybody listened.
Oh no, no, no, no, everyone is just they're not. This
is not important anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It is ever logistically difficult to figure out in the
moment appendages and I don't know. Okay, all right, I
learned something about Tony today.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I mean, I mean, look, I'm weirdly shaped, dude. I
have a seventy two inch wing span. Okay, we don't
have the video simulcast today, but I have a seventy
two inch wingspan.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
What does that mean? My arms are six feet like
I should have been taller.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So you can reach more. You saying that you're proportionate
in other ways? What can't I AM sixty A Live
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Speaker 1 (17:30):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Billy Joel and so it goes.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's two parts, two episodes on HBO Max. It should
have been five parts because each part, each episode is
two and a half hours each episode, so you have
five hours of viewing in two episodes.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
But I will say this as.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Someone who worked in the music industry, someone who loves
documentaries about the music industry, because you could, for at
least for me, I get to see people I've either known, met,
work with, followed and you get just a little bit
more insight as to what I thought someone's career was
versus what it actually was. This is a really, really
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good documentary. If you are a Billy Joel fan, highly recommend.
There are a lot of artists who may write songs.
I'm not picking on Line or Richie, but he's just
an example. He's someone who can just write a song
and it may not be connected to anyone or anything.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
He's just writing a hit song. Billy Joel songs.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
All of his songs were very very personal about very
specific people.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Specific moments and times in his life.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I will not listen to Piano Man the same way anymore,
just the way you are. All of his songs are
very specific to a person or people, and you get
to meet them in the documentary.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And I did know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And this is not like a big spoiler, because you
know after you go back and look on Wikipedia. It
was widely publicized that he had tried to kill himself
on more than one occasion, and what he was going through,
you would think, wait a minute, this guy had all
this success in life, but at a certain point he
couldn't see past the moment. And you get to see
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the frailty and the humanity, and I would say just
the vulnerability of Billy Joel because he's telling the story
and also people around him are telling the story, and
you realize, like, gosh, you know, if not for this
or that, Billy Joel wouldn't be here, we wouldn't have
all these great hits and music.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
As a really.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well done documentary, and I think part of the reason
is well done is because the principles of the stories
that they're telling, they're all still alive for the most part.
And even though Billy Joel is getting closer to eighty
years old. I don't know how old he is, but
he's getting close to eighty. You have to tell the
story now or not at all. And it wasn't always
(20:03):
a very flattering portrait of him.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, he did some things as like oh come on, Bill.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh wow, why is anyone still your friend after that,
but highly highly, highly recommend and like, here's an example
of just learning something. I understood this from working in
the music business. But I'm glad he was talking about it.
His song Piano Man arguably his biggest song ever. Arguably
(20:31):
it's a music anthem. He even says in a documentary
he cannot go anywhere and not perform it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Think about how.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Many records he probably sold, but because of his first
major album deal, he only made seven thousand dollars off it.
Seven thousand dollars. But it goes back to tawallaway. You
and I have talked about the evil side of the business,
the fevery side of the business, where you have these
(20:59):
huge hips, hits and this great talent and they sign
away all their publishing rights and they get pennies on
the dollar and they're having to perform the song for
the rest their life even though they're not getting paid
for it really other than the performance rights.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Knowing what you do about Billy Joel, I always grew
up and I wasn't a huge fan of Billy Joel
or Elton John. They have songs that you know, Hey,
I like that song, but wasn't necessarily a big fan,
But I always thought that they were dueling pianists. Always
thought it was like, you know, like Michael Jackson and Prince,
it was Billy Joel and you know Elton John.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They address that in the documentary really and there was
a time, and I'm not really giving away a lot here,
there was a time in which they wanted Billy Joel
to work with Elton John's band, and Billy Joel was saying, like,
I'm not I don't want to be compared to Elton John.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
My sound is this, his sound is that, and.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You pair me with Elton John's band, people are going
to continue to make that direct comparison.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
So that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Billy Joel would not like it, but it's a great
point because in a lot of people's minds they were
two sides of the same coin, or of the same
ilk being hop music figures heavily focused on piano.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I did not know that he was such.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
An accomplished classical artist and how that was infused into
all of his music and how he played. I learned
a lot about him when I didn't think there was
more to learn about him, and that, for me, is
what made it a really good documentary, So if you
have like five hours to spare, you know, over two episodes.
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I was watching the first episode, it's like, hey man,
it's been on for more than hour, and then you
like you hit the space bar and you realize, my gosh,
another hour and a half on this. They pack a
lot into it, a lot, highly highly recommend and so
it goes. The Billy Joel documentary told mostly first person,
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but you get to hear from family members, you get
to hear about his parents. I didn't know anything about
his parents and his upbringing, which was it was very chaotic,
and that's rather common with very successful genius level talent.
It's almost like, because of the chaos which was going
on at home, they had to find some other refuge
(23:27):
to throw themselves into. And it was a really eye
opening story. And of course, you know, they play all
with music, so you'll hear everything about every Billy Joel
song that you might have loved, you know, the inspiration
for where the lyrics came from, who the songs are about, all.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Those things that you would want. So check it out.
It's on HBO Max.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's later with mo Kelly kfi AM six forty Live Everywhere,
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Speaker 1 (23:51):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (24:05):
And live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. What is it?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I always say to Will, I know what you're gonna
You know that what I'm gonna say. I've long said
that there is no such thing as cancel culture. Now,
you might get put on time out, you might have
to go away for a while, you might have a
loss of revenue, you may have diminished opportunities and marketability,
(24:33):
but cancel seems kind of permanent to me.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Canceled means that you are done.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It didn't say that you're suspended from society. Didn't say
that you might have to have a moment where you
have to fend a little bit harder to get you know,
get some some projects, or get some money.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
But there's no such thing as cancel culture.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There's a lot of criticism out there. There's capitalism where
if someone finds that you are offensive or you are not,
your brand is toxic and would be hurtful. People will
stay away from you. But you're not canceled. And we
talked about Mel Gibson not canceled. Nick Cannon not canceled.
(25:21):
Chris Brown not canceled. I mean, name someone who's been
accused of something and they've gone completely away. Hell, Bill
Cosby was still trying to get a comedy tour off
the ground.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know where he is in that, but clearly
he doesn't think he's canceled.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Oh wait, no, Pauladine, she just recently had to shut
down her restaurant, which I think that was more of
a health co violence.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, but she still had the restaurant up until recently.
That whole controversy was I don't know, twelve thirteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
At this point, she came back making mop butter Mills.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Kevin Spacey added to the list of not canceled. He
set the follow up his can Film appearance with one
at the upcoming Venice Film Festival. He's promoting a new
movie that he has directed, called Holy Guard's Saga The
Portal of Force.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It sounds pretty bad, but that's neither here nor there.
He has a new movie that he is promoting, and
the sci fi thriller Mark Spacey's first featured directorial effort
in more than twenty years. According to the film's producer,
The film's trailer will be screened on August twenty nine
during a gala dinner attended by cast and crew involved
in the film. The producer says the event will also
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include live performances by an opera singer and a Georgian
dance ensemble. All we know is Kevin Spacey will be there.
And Kevin Spacey is still working in Hollywood. Now, Is
he the money maker that he once was? No, he's
not not as of yet. Neither is mel Gibson for
(26:56):
that matter. Neither is Will Smith for that matter.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But he's not.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Cal Now are their consequences to things that you may do.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
In the public eye.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Absolutely, And this is not to relitigate whether Kevin Spacey
actually did something, whether he was acquitted, or whether there's
any you know, controversy surrounding that. I'm just saying that
nothing has happened to anyone to my knowledge where their
career has completely ended because of.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
X Y or Z.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Even Michael Richards back in the day was still doing
stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, after his bad moment on stage.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So I look, we are we are we arguing about
minutia maybe, are we talking semantics?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Possibly?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But people still continued their careers, and I'm looking for
someone who had to give it all up because of
what they did. If if Will Smith can go out
and slap the crap out of someone on live TV
with the whole world watching, and go back and sit
down in his seat, and then later getting the Academy Award,
(28:04):
and the worst quote unquote thing which happened to him
was he was banned from showing up to the Oscars
for ten years.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He got off easy. Most people would have gone to
jail that night.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, especially when you commit assault and battery on tape
life for everyone to see. You know, it was recorded
every It's not a question of whether he did it,
when he did it, or who did it too. Everybody
saw that. Okay, So he didn't make as much money
for the next two years. I soon remember Bad Boys
for Life doing pretty damn well in theaters, very well.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And he is one of the executive producers, so he
has a lot of that. He has a literal movie
in the works right now that's supposed to be a
super gigantic film. Michael Bay was set to direct it
and they were going to read knew that partnership, but
they just recently exited. He got some other big direct
you're talking about. No, no, no, no, I am legend too.
This is another one that he is in the works
(28:59):
where he is a a gang leader, like a mob
leader who's lost his memory and forgot that he's a
CIA agent.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's undercovered. Isn't it called total recall. I don't know
what's happening.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Look, it's in the works, the born mediocrity.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Bottom line is he's working on movies.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
He still owns the rights to all things Cobra Kai
and Karate Kid, so he gets a percentage of that.
It's not like people were boycotting anything called Will Smith
or you know involving Will Smith. No, I mean, look,
Passion of the Christ Too is coming to theatergency of
Mel Gibson, who was formerly canceled, and he would have
(29:41):
a harsh cancelation. He'll never work in Hollywood again until
so they said, I guess the closest thing, and I
don't know if it's canceled. What's the director's name, Brian
tamer No, no, no, no, not singer Roman Polanski. Ah Man,
He's never gonna be canceled weather he just left the
country and can be extracting extradited, extradited.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
There you go. So I was saying both, actually right.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Mister Kelly Full Life Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app. I often
talk about unintended consequences are also the long view of history,
not how something feels right now.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It always is true with politics.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You say, yes, this is great for America, and then
you realize three four months, three four years down the
road that it's not great for America. Or rubble taxis
some people like Twalve Sharps saying oh, we got to
have it, we gotta have it now is as great.
It's going to revolutionize transportation and rite sharing as we
know it. And I always say I'm a little more
(00:49):
cautious than most. I've said it with all forms of technology.
I'm usually a slow adopter. I'm slow on the uptick
because I think about long term. Is is something that
is really good for us? Like I've only used Airbnb
once once. Don't look at me like that, Nick, I'm
being serious. I've only used it once, just once.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Once. It was literally almost.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Look I I like the dependability and the certainty of
if I picked the phone, I can get room service.
I know that someone is going to be cleaning the
room at an appointed time.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Necessarily worry about the hidden cameras as much as a
private residence, we don't have the type of oversight. Sure,
I got you, Okay, I would rather just deal with
the known issues of a hotel. And I say all
that to say, I thought immediately in the moment, especially
(01:49):
when it comes to the pharmaceutical industry, when something is
used what it's called off label, not for its original
intended use.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, like you had these blood pressure drugs.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
All of a sudden they realized that men were getting erections,
and all of a sudden, viagran and cialis were born.
And now you know, that was an off label use
that wasn't the original intended use of it. And now
it's a mixed bag as far as the long term
implications of the use of those drugs. I thought the
exact same thing when ozimpic and zep bound came out
Monjarro whatever they are, the you know, the GLP one drugs,
(02:25):
and people were losing all sorts of weight and like congratulations,
and they were losing it relatively quickly. I have a
number of friends who use it, a number so I'm
not speaking in an abstract sense, but I knew it's like, hm, yeah,
short term benefit. I don't know long term whether it's
going to be good for anyone and everyone. And now
(02:48):
as we get further down the road, as they say,
we're learning about some of the long term complications and implications.
More than two thousand people have filed lawsuits target getting
o zipic and zep bound, and the claims are the
drugs caused dangerous and sometimes permanent health problems.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Central to the lawsuits or claims that patients developed gastroparesis,
a condition sometimes called stomach paralysis. Other patients reported intestinal
obstruction that's bad, Persistent vomiting that's not good, gall Letterer
disease ooh, that's horrible. And vision loss tied to non
are territitic.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Anterior schemic optic neuropathy. Damn. That's a lot to say.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Easy for you to say, I know somebody who was
on that and had that trouble. How long were they
using the eye trouble. How long were they using it
before they had issues?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Months perhaps, Okay, so that's not long in the grand
scheme of things. You're not like talking about years of
use and then you know, you develop liver problems or something. No,
this is something which is you know, after a few months,
that's relatively quick.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah, just another proof of the old truism that there's
no real shortcuts.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Nothing worthwhile is easy. You're gonna say twelve.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I was just curious as to why it took so
long for this to come out. I remember when the
drug first hit and I talked to my doctor about
just because there's so many people that I knew they
were on it, and he told and he kind of chuckled,
and he said, it is amazing how many people don't
realize using it in this way as a weight loss drug,
(04:33):
what it's doing to your stomach, how it's causing your
stomach to basically dissolve anything that comes in. But it
liquefies everything and you get like, you can get permanent diarrhea,
all type permanent Yeah, yeah, just where where you will
never have a solid bow movement again, just constant, just
water washing.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Out you ew. Yeah, permanent diarrhea.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I mean, that's a good band name, but I don't
want it real life.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
I mean, but you know, you could also have stomach paralysis,
which is where your stomach is.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's a good unable to really move. I mean, yeah, man,
look and I remember my father.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I guess this is where I got the line of
thinking from because he was a slow adopter of technology too.
It's like, you know, not everything as it's as it seems. Yeah,
it seems like a good idea, but let's just wait
long term to see what it's going to be. And
I would usually the one who get up caught up
in the hypes. Oh no, it's great, it's fantastic, it's
going to change the world. It's like sow down Sun.
(05:38):
And this is a more example of that. I mean, yes,
I would love people to be able to lose weight.
I would love people to have the Holy Grail and
and and forever change people's lives. And to be fair,
a number of people's lives have been changed for the
better through use of this drug, and it can't be argued.
(05:59):
But also, oh, here's the perfect example. I will never
get laser surgery. Oh the I will never get lasik.
Oh tell me about that. Why I know too much?
You know, I've had friends who've gotten the procedure, and
(06:21):
what providers don't tell you is there are complications far
more often than what is divulged to the public.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And even though I have.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Horrible eyesight, horrible eyes and problems my whole life, and
it's been recommended that I get lasik, It's like, no,
I'm not trading the possibility of one problem for another.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Are there reports that after laser you can see through
dimensional barriers like in HP Lovecrafts of the Beyond?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No, but there are reports of your site being permanently
ruined even worse. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a reason you
don't really hear that rash of commercials about coming get
you a lasick for twenty five percent off each eye.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
You're not really hearing a lot of those like you
were once upon a time.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, with any new procedure, you kind of want to
wait for all the bad stuff to shake out and
become known, don't you.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, And that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
House also it has to do with the long term implications,
and people may have had a successful procedure and then
you learn about the side effects and the aging of
the lens in your eye and you realize, Okay, it's
actually worse than what it was beforehand, and something else.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, it doesn't age well with you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
You know, you still have to get reading glasses and
so forth, and you might have to have the procedure
redone after fifteen twenty years.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
People will go to great lengths to stave off the
natural effects of aging like a human being.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, and I would love to have better eyes. But
you know, and this kind of connects to the ozimbic craze.
There's just certain things I'm not going to risk. I'm
not And I think people are learning now the law,
long term implications and the consequences of the uses of
these drugs.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And there's gonna be more.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We have two thousand lawsuits already come back in the year.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What do you think is going to be You think
that it's going to end with that.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You think that it's going to be cured with just
these two thousand people and these class action lawsuits.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh no, They're gonna be plenty, plenty more. It's all
part of the bigger picture. It ties in completely with
the AI bubble breaking right now. Everybody thinks they can
get something for nothing or something for no effort. It
doesn't work out well in the end. Okay, go ahead
and say it. It's time for the news, mom, No, no,
gas ass. I want you to say it, gas ass,
(08:42):
grass or ass.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Nobody rides for free.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (08:57):
Can't i mister Kelly here live every morning Heart Radio
app And when I get off for tonight, I'm going
to run home or drive home, get home as quickly
as possible and turn on episode three of Alien Earth Mark.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Have you seen it yet?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
No, it didn't drop till five today. I was trying
to watch it last night.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, you and me both, I mean, and I said
I might have some time for the show, and it's like, no,
I didn't want to half pay attention to it and
also try to get ready for a show.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Now this requires your full attention. It's that good.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It is that good. And also, Tony, what are you
watching right about now?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
That's probably just another YouTube documentary about a video game
or something things like that. You need to broaden your
horizons because opening that live happened earlier today. That's what
I'm gonna watch when I get home. Which is a
games common Germany is because so it's like trailers for
all the games coming out the next year.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So how do you have time to work giving your
gaming persona.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
I don't game as much as I have games. I
have my giant backlog of games. I will get to
the them sooner or later.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You have games, you have pinball machines, have arcade, a
veritable arcade at home.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
We're working with Peter Pan. He refuses to grow up. Well,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I just can I ask you to semi personal questions,
and I'm going to ask you anyway, no matter what
regards whatever you said close to being married.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Grandpause. Well okay, how about this? How about this? Did
you ever meet a woman and you thought she might
be the one? Yes? Okay, have you ever been engaged? No?
They dlped me pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Did the woman have staples like on her stomach? I mean,
was it a centerfold? Oh that's what I said, that
she had a lot of piercings. But oh gosh, I
thought you like, did she have gastric bypass? Was it
an actual three dimensional woman or something in a magazine?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
They're all actual? They just whatever, It just doesn't work out.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay. What's the longest relationship you've been in that you
both recognize and acknowledged?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Six years? I'd say it was six with her. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Were you comparable in age? Yeah, she was a little
younger than me. Okay, was she legal? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
this is yeah, just got she met in college. And
did you live in the same place that you do now?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, it's been that long. Is this place a reaction
to that? Yes? Great question?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, no, no, no, I mean she.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
We weren't by the time I bought my house.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
She wed her. Just we're talking once in a while,
you know, drifting apart kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Are you friends on Facebook? Presently? She follows me on Instagram? Oh,
let's get her on the show. Yeah. No. When was
the last time you talked to her in person? Oh? God,
fifteen years ago?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, if you had the chance, no strings, to hit
it one more time, would you no?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
You sure about that? Yes? Decisive? Did it end amicably
or was it a bad breakup? Okay? I just stopped?
Speaker 6 (12:33):
How about that? I'm like done and that was it?
But you're still would you be friendly if you passed
each other? I have it had to end, that's all.
Talk about it, like as a class in college, like
had to end its June or something.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
What did you know? What did you know that it
had to end?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Well, that's it. I'll tell you. An event happened that
made me go, that's it. I'm done with this. Well
you know ed is a medical stuff. Sorry, I just
said the best with you? No, okay? Was it something
that she did? Things are happening. She did a thing,
(13:17):
and I'm just like, you know what, I'm done. Things
are happening. She did a thing, and she killed the
relationship as far as you were concerned. I just I
finally like the switch flipped, or like, I don't need
to go in this circle anymore because it was.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It was really good and really bad. How about that?
Did she ask you back at any point? Yes?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Oh, you put it on her, didn't you. I'm like,
but again, once I flipped the switch, it was over.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I'm done.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
And again nothing against her. It just it would never
have worked out for us. Does she listen to KF.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I I hope not. Doctor Nick.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
What do you think of all the times that we
need to have the if you can most the only
one that could see my facial expression?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh my goodness, wow, Tony, I've learned more about him
in the past four minutes. So I did the past
fourteen years.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
I was gonna say, and if you be tune in
here on KFI, Tony is always around. You've heard him
on every show that's been on the station. But I
guarantee that this is the most you've ever heard about
Tony's life. I'm sorry, no, no.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, no no no. Let me ask you this. Did you
ever start the process of buying a ring? No? No,
no no.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
That's money you could spend on a gaming console. What
are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (14:36):
I'm just what consoles don't cost that much? Thought process
depends on the woman on the cabinet. Games and the pinball.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Or the pachinko. Yeah, the pachinko game. They're actually sientifically
cheaper than any ring. I've got a ring? Okay, how
much is a ring?
Speaker 7 (14:48):
What kind of ring? Are we talking? Obviously above cracker jack?
Like you know that kind of thing, right, I don't
even know how much ring normally costs? Say, you'd have
to tell me.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, okay, how about this. We're playing twenty questions? Has
there been anyone close since that time?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You're getting a little personal here.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
I would like to think too, but both of them
just had enough of me when that was the end
of it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Did they come by your house and just say hell no.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
No, they're both totally okay with it. But actually the
last one she thought it was cool and what did
you do?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
This didn't work out? I did you meet the last one?
Real quick?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
My friend met her and said, oh, you two would
be great together, and we met at and then we
met up at a concert because we both like the
same band and she liked the band. That is obscure
enough that anyone who likes this band, it's like we're
now friends.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
How long did it last? That one was all enough
for a year and a half.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
And where are they now?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I don't know, Okay, but I liked her more.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think she tried to like me and she just didn't,
you know, give yourself more credit.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You wouldn't like you?
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Come on, okay, grappling hook cloud.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
I didn't mind king that's fine, that's very popular in
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
But you know, I think I think she had you know,
because I'm yeah, whatever, but yeah, it didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think she tried to like me and didn't you know,
one of.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Those things year and a half off and on she
that was more than trying six feet tall?
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Did you scale her? I said, grappling hook, so probably.
I was like, no, I love the climbing equipment, yeah,
I had.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That was fine.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
I got to ask a really inappropriate model. I can
just ask one more. Okay again, I'm sorry everybody listened.
Oh no, no, no, no, everyone is just they're not. This
is not important anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It is ever logistically difficult to figure out in the
moment appendages and I don't know. Okay, all right, I
learned something about Tony today.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
I mean, I mean, look, I'm weirdly shaped, dude. I
have a seventy two inch wing span. Okay, we don't
have the video simulcast today, but I have a seventy
two inch wingspan.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
What does that mean? My arms are six feet like
I should have been taller.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So you can reach more. You saying that you're proportionate
in other ways? What can't I AM sixty A Live
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Speaker 1 (17:30):
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
Billy Joel and so it goes.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
It's two parts, two episodes on HBO Max. It should
have been five parts because each part, each episode is
two and a half hours each episode, so you have
five hours of viewing in two episodes.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
But I will say this as.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Someone who worked in the music industry, someone who loves
documentaries about the music industry, because you could, for at
least for me, I get to see people I've either known, met,
work with, followed and you get just a little bit
more insight as to what I thought someone's career was
versus what it actually was. This is a really, really
(18:16):
good documentary. If you are a Billy Joel fan, highly recommend.
There are a lot of artists who may write songs.
I'm not picking on Line or Richie, but he's just
an example. He's someone who can just write a song
and it may not be connected to anyone or anything.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
He's just writing a hit song. Billy Joel songs.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
All of his songs were very very personal about very
specific people.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Specific moments and times in his life.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I will not listen to Piano Man the same way anymore,
just the way you are. All of his songs are
very specific to a person or people, and you get
to meet them in the documentary.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
And I did know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And this is not like a big spoiler, because you
know after you go back and look on Wikipedia. It
was widely publicized that he had tried to kill himself
on more than one occasion, and what he was going through,
you would think, wait a minute, this guy had all
this success in life, but at a certain point he
couldn't see past the moment. And you get to see
(19:23):
the frailty and the humanity, and I would say just
the vulnerability of Billy Joel because he's telling the story
and also people around him are telling the story, and
you realize, like, gosh, you know, if not for this
or that, Billy Joel wouldn't be here, we wouldn't have
all these great hits and music.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
As a really.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well done documentary, and I think part of the reason
is well done is because the principles of the stories
that they're telling, they're all still alive for the most part.
And even though Billy Joel is getting closer to eighty
years old. I don't know how old he is, but
he's getting close to eighty. You have to tell the
story now or not at all. And it wasn't always
(20:03):
a very flattering portrait of him.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know, he did some things as like oh come on, Bill.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh wow, why is anyone still your friend after that,
but highly highly, highly recommend and like, here's an example
of just learning something. I understood this from working in
the music business. But I'm glad he was talking about it.
His song Piano Man arguably his biggest song ever. Arguably
(20:31):
it's a music anthem. He even says in a documentary
he cannot go anywhere and not perform it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Think about how.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Many records he probably sold, but because of his first
major album deal, he only made seven thousand dollars off it.
Seven thousand dollars. But it goes back to tawallaway. You
and I have talked about the evil side of the business,
the fevery side of the business, where you have these
(20:59):
huge hips, hits and this great talent and they sign
away all their publishing rights and they get pennies on
the dollar and they're having to perform the song for
the rest their life even though they're not getting paid
for it really other than the performance rights.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Knowing what you do about Billy Joel, I always grew
up and I wasn't a huge fan of Billy Joel
or Elton John. They have songs that you know, Hey,
I like that song, but wasn't necessarily a big fan,
But I always thought that they were dueling pianists. Always
thought it was like, you know, like Michael Jackson and Prince,
it was Billy Joel and you know Elton John.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They address that in the documentary really and there was
a time, and I'm not really giving away a lot here,
there was a time in which they wanted Billy Joel
to work with Elton John's band, and Billy Joel was saying, like,
I'm not I don't want to be compared to Elton John.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
My sound is this, his sound is that, and.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
You pair me with Elton John's band, people are going
to continue to make that direct comparison.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
So that's a great point.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Billy Joel would not like it, but it's a great
point because in a lot of people's minds they were
two sides of the same coin, or of the same
ilk being hop music figures heavily focused on piano.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I did not know that he was such.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
An accomplished classical artist and how that was infused into
all of his music and how he played. I learned
a lot about him when I didn't think there was
more to learn about him, and that, for me, is
what made it a really good documentary, So if you
have like five hours to spare, you know, over two episodes.
(22:43):
I was watching the first episode, it's like, hey man,
it's been on for more than hour, and then you
like you hit the space bar and you realize, my gosh,
another hour and a half on this. They pack a
lot into it, a lot, highly highly recommend and so
it goes. The Billy Joel documentary told mostly first person,
(23:05):
but you get to hear from family members, you get
to hear about his parents. I didn't know anything about
his parents and his upbringing, which was it was very chaotic,
and that's rather common with very successful genius level talent.
It's almost like, because of the chaos which was going
on at home, they had to find some other refuge
(23:27):
to throw themselves into. And it was a really eye
opening story. And of course, you know, they play all
with music, so you'll hear everything about every Billy Joel
song that you might have loved, you know, the inspiration
for where the lyrics came from, who the songs are about, all.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Those things that you would want. So check it out.
It's on HBO Max.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
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Speaker 1 (23:51):
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Speaker 3 (24:05):
And live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. What is it?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I always say to Will, I know what you're gonna
You know that what I'm gonna say. I've long said
that there is no such thing as cancel culture. Now,
you might get put on time out, you might have
to go away for a while, you might have a
loss of revenue, you may have diminished opportunities and marketability,
(24:33):
but cancel seems kind of permanent to me.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Canceled means that you are done.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It didn't say that you're suspended from society. Didn't say
that you might have to have a moment where you
have to fend a little bit harder to get you know,
get some some projects, or get some money.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
But there's no such thing as cancel culture.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There's a lot of criticism out there. There's capitalism where
if someone finds that you are offensive or you are not,
your brand is toxic and would be hurtful. People will
stay away from you. But you're not canceled. And we
talked about Mel Gibson not canceled. Nick Cannon not canceled.
(25:21):
Chris Brown not canceled. I mean, name someone who's been
accused of something and they've gone completely away. Hell, Bill
Cosby was still trying to get a comedy tour off
the ground.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know where he is in that, but clearly
he doesn't think he's canceled.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Oh wait, no, Pauladine, she just recently had to shut
down her restaurant, which I think that was more of
a health co violence.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, but she still had the restaurant up until recently.
That whole controversy was I don't know, twelve thirteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
At this point, she came back making mop butter Mills.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Kevin Spacey added to the list of not canceled. He
set the follow up his can Film appearance with one
at the upcoming Venice Film Festival. He's promoting a new
movie that he has directed, called Holy Guard's Saga The
Portal of Force.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It sounds pretty bad, but that's neither here nor there.
He has a new movie that he is promoting, and
the sci fi thriller Mark Spacey's first featured directorial effort
in more than twenty years. According to the film's producer,
The film's trailer will be screened on August twenty nine
during a gala dinner attended by cast and crew involved
in the film. The producer says the event will also
(26:36):
include live performances by an opera singer and a Georgian
dance ensemble. All we know is Kevin Spacey will be there.
And Kevin Spacey is still working in Hollywood. Now, Is
he the money maker that he once was? No, he's
not not as of yet. Neither is mel Gibson for
(26:56):
that matter. Neither is Will Smith for that matter.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But he's not.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Cal Now are their consequences to things that you may do.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
In the public eye.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Absolutely, And this is not to relitigate whether Kevin Spacey
actually did something, whether he was acquitted, or whether there's
any you know, controversy surrounding that. I'm just saying that
nothing has happened to anyone to my knowledge where their
career has completely ended because of.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
X Y or Z.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Even Michael Richards back in the day was still doing
stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, after his bad moment on stage.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So I look, we are we are we arguing about
minutia maybe, are we talking semantics?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Possibly?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But people still continued their careers, and I'm looking for
someone who had to give it all up because of
what they did. If if Will Smith can go out
and slap the crap out of someone on live TV
with the whole world watching, and go back and sit
down in his seat, and then later getting the Academy Award,
(28:04):
and the worst quote unquote thing which happened to him
was he was banned from showing up to the Oscars
for ten years.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
He got off easy. Most people would have gone to
jail that night.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, especially when you commit assault and battery on tape
life for everyone to see. You know, it was recorded
every It's not a question of whether he did it,
when he did it, or who did it too. Everybody
saw that. Okay, So he didn't make as much money
for the next two years. I soon remember Bad Boys
for Life doing pretty damn well in theaters, very well.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And he is one of the executive producers, so he
has a lot of that. He has a literal movie
in the works right now that's supposed to be a
super gigantic film. Michael Bay was set to direct it
and they were going to read knew that partnership, but
they just recently exited. He got some other big direct
you're talking about. No, no, no, no, I am legend too.
This is another one that he is in the works
(28:59):
where he is a a gang leader, like a mob
leader who's lost his memory and forgot that he's a
CIA agent.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
That's undercovered. Isn't it called total recall. I don't know
what's happening.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Look, it's in the works, the born mediocrity.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Bottom line is he's working on movies.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
He still owns the rights to all things Cobra Kai
and Karate Kid, so he gets a percentage of that.
It's not like people were boycotting anything called Will Smith
or you know involving Will Smith. No, I mean, look,
Passion of the Christ Too is coming to theatergency of
Mel Gibson, who was formerly canceled, and he would have
(29:41):
a harsh cancelation. He'll never work in Hollywood again until
so they said, I guess the closest thing, and I
don't know if it's canceled. What's the director's name, Brian
tamer No, no, no, no, not singer Roman Polanski. Ah Man,
He's never gonna be canceled weather he just left the
country and can be extracting extradited, extradited.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
There you go. So I was saying both, actually right.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
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