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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I mister mo Kelly, we're live on YouTube right now.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Come join the party at mister Mokelly on YouTube and
we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. I often talk
about the evolution of our economy and how although we
may have these fights about what minimum wage should be,
should it be seventeen dollars an hour, twenty dollars an hour?
Should fast food workers get twenty dollars an hour? And
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I try to tell folks, I think the fight for
certain jobs and certain wages for certain jobs more times
than not shortsighted, if only because you're fighting for jobs
which aren't going to be there in five six years.
I remember I said that back in twenty eighteen when
people were fighting for fifteen dollars an hour. Remember that
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fifteen dollars an hour in California. Then all of a
sudden it wasn't enough like I predicted, and then fast
food workers wanted to have twenty dollars an hour. And
I said, okay, well, good luck with that, because those
jobs are not going to be here in five years.
We're coming up on five years, and I'm coming up
on the point where I'm pretty sure I'm right those
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jobs are going away. Let me give you another example.
I want to tell you about a Santa Clarita company.
As part of their retail costs, which they want to curtail,
they're using robots. This Santa Clarita company, Happy Returns, is working,
as they say, to save retailers money by offering free
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returns in a high tech way using robots. When consumers
have a return with one of their participating retailers, which
is like gap windsor all Birds and Revolve, when consumers
have a return with one of them, they can take
it to one of the nine thousand drop off points
nationwide inside places like Staples, Ups and Alta. Shoppers then
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get an immediate credit and the return makes its way
to the Happy Returns warehouse, where they process most returns
the same day they get it thanks to what say
it with me robots. Now, there are still humans who
are part of the process, but the robots add a
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level of speed and efficiency that human beings cannot. The
robots can work twenty four hours a day, like we've
talked about humans cannot.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Robots don't need vacations. Humans do need vacations.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
In this example, employees still take the returns off the
trucks and scan them into the system, but robots do
the rest everything directed by QR codes.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
When things get hard, we need to get better.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The robots are a significant step forward in productivity and efficiency.
As we enter a more uncertain climate, merchants will need
to look at every crevice to find opportunities to optimize clothes.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Put another way, they're going to have to find every
opportunity to reduce costs. And there's no cost which that
they're always looking at other than reducing the amount of employees.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
The sooner that they can get rid of me, they will.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
The sooner that radio or audio becomes AI, they will
get rid of me. I promise you, why why would
you pay me if there's some sort of technology which
can do it for quote unquote free quote unquote. There's
probably a beginning cost of purchasing costs. Maybe there's a
maintenance cost, but it's not as much as paying me.
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We've talked about on this show how they're already AI
news reports in print and also audio, and Marke hates it,
but he knows it's true.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
People don't want it. They want to connect with other
human beings. They don't want AI. It's being forced on
us by people who just stand a profit from it,
and I will fight this fight until my dying breath.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Two competing ideas. You're not wrong people, You and me.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
People, we don't want it, but businesses want lower costs.
Businesses are more concerned with the profit margins than our
individual likes dislikes. Like For example, I don't want to call,
let's say, a credit card company or any company and
do the autumn made thing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Okay, I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Usually when I'm calling, I need to talk to someone
because my issue, my problem is very specific and I
need As soon as that computer voice comes on, I
say operator representative.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
We both did the same time.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
We fund ourselves shouting into the phone representatives.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Number one. If you're here for x Y that representative
real person.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
People don't want that. They don't want to talk to
an AI or a computer or anything of the sort,
whether it's customer service or entertainment or radio. They need
to connect with other human beings, and they're gonna they're
gonna make their choices with with what they decide to
patronize and purchase. And you know, employers are always going
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to go toward whatever profits the most, but they can
be forced in certain directions by what consumers are willing
to pay for and tolerate.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But think about what you're saying, Mark, even though we
want it, and even though you can just about put
out any survey out there and it will confirm that
we want an actual person to deal with, we get
more automation that tells you it is more important to
decrease their expenses than it is to increase their likability
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with customer.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Well, this is the eternal push and pull in any
capitalist system. And I'm not anti capitalist, but you know
it's just a natural. It's like the old Warner Brothers
cartoon with the sheep dog and the coyote who fight
all day, then they clock out and they come back
and start it the next day. You're always going to
have that push and pull. But just think about our
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particular industry. What Stephan does right now, it would take
four people twenty five years ago. Well, that makes perfect
sense because Stefan can eat the amount of pizza that
four men can eat.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
But think about if you haven't worked in radio, you
don't know. The digital revolution just transformed radio. The idea
of being able to record something in real time and
edit it in real time and play it back. I say, Stefan,
get this audio and you can find it and play it.
You couldn't do that back in the day of real
to real You just wouldn't be able to do it.
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You would need a person dedicated to do just that
of stuff. Remember those call in shows. We used to
have to actually cut up those calls during the break
and then put them on the air later in the show.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Where Stephan can do that with click click click click, click,
click click and just.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Keep it moving. Sure, Stephan is not an AI. I
will concede that point.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But I'm saying his employer, which is also our employer,
would gladly get rid of us in a heartbeat if
it meant that they could lower their bottom line. In fact,
just think about this business in general. The whole idea
of a transmitter and a broadcast station and doing this
in a physical studio is antiquated and obsolete, But people
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like it and they connect with it. No, but I'm
saying they could listen to us on the iHeartRadio app.
They don't need the broadcast transmitter. We don't need to
be in this physical studio. I could do this from home.
You could do it from home. They don't need this
physical studio space. And you've seen across the wider landscape
a lot of local radio stations have either gone to automation,
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they've gone to syndication, or they've gotten rid of the
station altogether.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I mean, yeah, sure, I'm under no illusion that I'm
key personnel around here. I mean, talk about career radar.
I'm drawn to careers that are known for their being
lucrative and stable, like the newspaper business.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's another great example. That's going to be my final
thought tonight. We're talking about what's going on with the
La Times. Oh yeah, I actually had meant to talk
to you about that. Well, they lost a whole ton
of money. That's a part of my final thought tonight.
But that too, is another industry which has fallen victim
my word, victim to automation. You know, I can open
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up the La Times and they have an earthquake bot.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
This is an earthquake. You don't need someone to write
it up something. You don't need a human to give
you the weather. But people want to connect with a
human who has experienced judgment maybe is local to them,
and there's no substitute for that.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There's no substitute for it. But businesses are not gonna
want to continually pay for it.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Got to push back.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
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Speaker 2 (09:26):
They're pretty funny most of the time. Not all the time,
but they're pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
They're cracking jokes right now in the chat and you
get to know us and Stephan will probably jump in
the chat at some point.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I try to jump in.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Marc is never going to jump in, but it's a
great time, So come join the party.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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Kelly and six Live everywhere, the iHeartRadio app and YouTube.
Last Secon, we had a pretty good discussion going about
robots and AI and the replacement of humans in the workplace,
and also our everyday lives and so it's a real
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subject and it's a hotly contested subject. If you go
to our YouTube channel, you can hear the debate and
see the debate at the same time. And now, let
me just give you a sense of what some people
are saying. Some people are saying, you can't replace the
human element, like as far as in radio, you can't
replace a DJ or a news personality giving personal anecdotes. Well,
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the human lived experience. But here's something else that people
I think overlook and don't forget and don't remember. It's
getting harder and harder to distinguish when you are actually
interacting with AI. All those times where you think you're
chatting with a human when you're on a website, probably
trying to look up your account numbers, Say hello, miss
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jo Kelly, is there anything we can help you with today?
And they said, yes, I want to counsel my account. Oh,
I'm sorry to hear that. And then they'll go through
all the prompts and you may think you're actually dealing
with a person, but you're not. That's just a way
in which one that's a job that has been taken
and two you are interacting more and more with AI
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and not even knowing it. There's another debate, which is
I would say growing right now as far as AI's
influence on children, and there is a study which was
conducted by common Sense Media and it concluded that children
should not speak with AI chatbots that includes companion chatbots
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because according to the study, such interactions risk self harm
and could exacerbate mental health problems and addiction. This was
according to a risk assessment by the children's advocacy group
common Sense Media. Companion bots just in case you didn't know,
Artificial intelligence agents designed to engage in conversation.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
You know, the chat.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Boss like I was talking about, to help you cancel
your account. They're increasingly available in video games and on
social media platforms like Instagram and Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What's worse, and I do mean worse.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They can take on just about any role you or
in this case, your child, would like standing in for
friends in a group chat, a romantic partner, or even
a dead friend.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I know that's kind of morbid, but still it's real.
Companies design the bots to keep people engaged and help
turn a profit. But we also know that when you
are an adolescent, for example, you are probably more emotional
than than you ever will be the rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Your hormones are raging.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Everything is either a great tragedy, a great mystery.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's everything.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It's all or nothing, And emostly you respond accordingly. You
introduce AI and a chatbot, which can say the wrong
thing at the wrong time, and can push a child
in the wrong direction, maybe towards suicide or into depression
or addiction.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Also its this kind of reminds me of I think
it was the Kardashians and they had that AI robot
made of her dad that passed away, and it's like
that also keeps you from being able to move past
death because you're just keeping someone alive that's not even real,
not dealing with the reality of reality with grief. And
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I'll and I'll give you a perfect example, and I'll
just talk about from my personal experience, not a day
goes by in which I don't think about my father,
not a day, And I usually have dreams about him,
and in every dream he's alive, he's like interacting with
the family and everything. That's I know a part of
my grief process of processing his absence and my mind
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trying to make some sort of allowance for that and
deal with that absence by inserting him in my life.
Now I can only imagine if I did not allow
for that reality to take hold and continue to talk
to him air quotes by way of a chatbot. And
anyone who's dealt with grief knows that you don't have
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an end date for grieving someone. You deal with it,
and you process it, and maybe you come to terms
with it, but there's no like, yeah, in five years
you're done grieving.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
No, it doesn't work that way. You find a way
to accept it and hopefully better understand it, but you
don't ever ever get past it. You think about that
in terms of a child's developmental state and learning how
to deal with grief, or just the problems and complexities
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of life, and you introduce a a chat bot into it,
and that could throw a monkey wrench into that child's
life and make all things worse. So when they say
that keep your kids away from AI chatbot companions, yeah,
that would make perfect sense to me. We're adults, and
maybe we're a little bit more discerning, but probably not much,
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not much. We probably understand the difference between dealing with
an artificial intelligence in conception more so than a child
which hasn't had a full set of life experiences without
AI to discern the difference. Oh, we're definitely in some
uncharted waters, as they say, and there's going to be
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some unintended consequences, and I'll probably have to end up
agreeing with Mark here. We're going to have to go
through some things to understand the seriousness of what AI
is going to mean.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Just go back and read Ray Bradberry's Ice Sing the
Body Electric and then realize it's not gonna be like
that in real life. No, no, no, You're not gonna
get a kindly maid who nurtures the children. In fact,
it's like the one area where you absolutely want a
mature adult for guidance.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
It's gonna get worse before it gets better. God, I
hate it when we agree.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
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Speaker 2 (16:25):
Except for Mark Ronert.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
He doesn't respond to anyone in the chef, but Stephan
does her niche does, and eventually we get to Walla
to respond as well.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
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Speaker 7 (16:46):
Mister mo'kelly, he wounds us. This is autonomous vehicles might
beyond that mob tool. The Colson Cleanser tone under Control
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thinks he's on the payroll.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Chris, you.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
M over.
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Long Cam I It's Later with mo Kelly on YouTube
and live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's hear the
latest on how weimo is ruining the world now. It
seems that weimo is getting sued for stealing, stealing, allegedly
stealing a man's very expensive belongings something Western grip on
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a forehead.
Speaker 8 (17:59):
Lives in San Francesco. He spends his days going between
his work as a high school tennis coach and coaching
tennis lessons.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
I've been doing it thirty years. It's how I make
my living.
Speaker 8 (18:08):
Like many San Franciscans, he does not have a car. Lately,
he's been riding Waymo's driverless taxis. One evening in February,
he says his Wimo dropped him off, but the trunk
filled with his expensive tennis equipment didn't open.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It didn't open. Theft they'll tell me can drive the
streets would not pop.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
The trunk didn't open, so I called customer service to
see if the gentleman, if someone could open a car
remotely for me, got picked up phone. He's very very nice,
and in the middle of him trying to open up
the trunk, the car drove away.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Thieves.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Mind you, he didn't forget his stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
He called the technician while he was standing right next
to the car at his destination.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Correct, standing next to the car at his end destination.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But the question wasn't about whether he could get there
or not.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
He wanted stuff, No, no, no, no, The r was officially over.
He was outside of the car. Was no no, no, no,
no supposed to give me. We don't know if he
got out and he was talking on the phone. Yeah,
I'm here, Yeah, no downsides. Yeah, look, you know what,
I'm about to get my stuff. We don't know what
the window of time is that you have to get
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your stuff out of the car. Because the waim is
not a person, it's not looking to see. It knows
that the persons that you are out of the car.
Look you know what, but no, no, no, because you know what.
Carneicia may have left her stuff in the car, like
many people have done this. We just reported last week
in Uber. I don't know why this show. I don't
know why this show has such a bad memory. We
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look at the hundreds of things that are left in
uber every year. The evidence shows he did not leave
behind on trains. You don't what. Here's the thing. People
have not forgotten stuff in ubers either. But they get
out the drunk, the tripping, blah blah blah. Yeah, you know,
and next thing you know, like I think I think
I left my in the uber. This guy was standing
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there and they tried to help this man.
Speaker 9 (20:03):
The car drove away.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Way, that's fine, the car drove away.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Yeah, not only out the pricing gear, but he's losing
money because he can't teach lessons.
Speaker 9 (20:12):
There was a large double bag for the tennis balls.
There was a portable hopper or a portable teaching card.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Did this man just talk about tennis balls? Is he
talking about there's a large Duffel bag of tennis balls.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, you can't get.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Those, like you know, it was those pitching machines. It's
a hopper, Okay, you know, we don't know the condition
is hopper. I'm sure he was like, yeah, my hopper
was brigian.
Speaker 8 (20:39):
Then he said, asking woman to get his stuff back
or reimburse him. But he says, neither has happened for
two months.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Neither can't get his stuff back.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
It's not like they don't know what car it is.
You don't know where the car went. There's a digital
trail for all this.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Get the man of stuff back, get the man in stuff.
No this, this man has obvious. Lee looked at this
as an opportunity, a slip and fall, if you will.
I left my stuff for the Wai Mo. My stuff
was top shelf. Those tennis balls, they were twenty five
dollars of pop my Hopper brand new. I'm gonna need
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compensation to the highest extent.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
That's how lawsuits worked.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Well, he filed us, stopped trying to diminish the man's balls.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Those balls are worthless. I don't think he feels that way.
Balls are fussy and old. Okay, look, okay, no one
was hitting those balls. No one could speak to the
size of his balls or quality of them. All right,
So exactly so why is he including his balls in
the lawsuit? He valued them? No what else did his
students there certainly did did.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I just didn't get he worked because my balls are gone.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
This week, filed a small claim suit against WEIMO, seeking
twelve five hundred dollars in damages. In a statement, WEIMO
told us quote, WEIMO is in touch with the individual
and working to resolve the claim. WEIMO support team operates
with the goal of reuniting writers and their forgotten item.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
They want to reunite it with his ball.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
They're in no hurry to get his ball. And you
know why, probably because when he called, he sounded as
if he had no balls.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
That's cold, that is really white. When did you start
with this victim blaming returns?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
He oh, he is the victim. He is the victim.
This man showed have been put his balls in the trunk,
so he was asking for it. That's what you're saying.
All I'm saying is he put his balls in the trunk.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So you're saying, now he was wearing the wrong type
of dress.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
He absolutely should have put better protections around his balls
and his shooter. His balls and his shooter. He lost
his balls and his shooter, nothing his beans. Fuck dude
spent on that night, hear me, That's.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
What she said.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
This man, this man. Look, I'm saying, lame. I'm standing
outside my car and my balls. They are in the truck.
My balls are in the back. Do not abscone it
with my balls. Please do not leave with my ball.
There is about the balls. It's more than just the balls.
You're right, it always is. It's about the shooter too.
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They're not forgotten. They're not forgotten. They were lost. They
were lost, not to my accord.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
They were not lost by me. They were taken by
the car.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Someone took his ball.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Don't neglect them. They're not lost.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Someone took his ball.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
When it's frustrated, and of course about Blair, his possessions
might have gone.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I don't know what there is to investigate. Are you
dusting for Prince? Are you calling in FBI? What is
there to investigate?
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Finally they've left the man ballless.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Why don't you care? Dusting this ball for Prince? Shoot death?
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Mother?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh my goodness, I hope he gets his balls back.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
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Speaker 4 (24:23):
A couple things want to let you know.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I always talk about how I love studying and teaching
hop Keito which is a Korean martial art my Dojon
which is Studio Songs of Keto West Los Angeles. In
conjunction with two other hop Kito studios, KMACK Korean Martial
Arts Center in Chino Hills and also La Hopkeito in Torrents,
We're getting together to throw a huge Southern California hop
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Keto Invitational. We're stylists all over California. We have some
coming from Chicago and also somewhere in Arizona. They're going
to be competing in various events and competitions on May
twenty fourth in Torrents at the Toyota Meeting Hall. You
can get all the information be it competitor or spectator
at so Calhopkeitoinvitational dot com. So Cal as in Southern
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California Hopkeito h a p ki d O Invitational dot
com and look forward to seeing you out there on
the twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You can just come say hello to me. I'm one
of the organizers.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I'll be everywhere and doing plenty of things, but I
would love to meet you as well. Also, there is
Wango Tango coming up on May tenth, Iheartradios Wango Tango
presented by Fiji Airways. As I said, it's Saturday, May
tenth at Huntington City Beach if you don't know, that's
just south of the pier and they'll have live performances
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by Hearts to Hearts A two O May Psichers In Mix, Katsie,
David Ghetta and they're gonna be the headliners of Megan Trainer,
Doja Cat and Gwen Stefani As the sun goes down.
You do not want to miss it. You can get
your tickets right now at Access dot com. That's AXS
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dot com. But here's something that you gotta remember. The
prices go up this Friday. It's Wednesday. You got until
Friday to get your tickets at the regular price, and
then they go up on May Sewi. The Wanngo tangles
on May tenth. But plan ahead. I know, I know.
You gotta pay rent right now. You gotta pay the mortgage.
You just saw Beyonce. You're hanging out with Towala's daughter.
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You see Twala's daughter at every single concert. She goes everywhere.
It's her birthday and everything. Is she going to see
Beyonce tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yes she is. She will be checking out Cowboy Carter.
I believe Blue Ivy has a stellar dance solo and
her youngest daughter, Rooney, took to the stage and gave
the crowd lots of all type moments. So all that
will be happening.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There's a discussion to be happy. I would love to
talk about bringing your child on stage and sort of
not parading them, but making them part of the act
when they haven't really.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Made their way through the industry. I don't know how
I feel about that.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I don't know about I'm not mad at it. I
think to myself, if this is my stage, this is
my stage, and this is something that my child wants
to do. Yeah, I'm giving you full on opportunity to
take this and n I will say this, at least
about Blue. She has auditioned, she has learned the choreography,
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and she has stepped on that stage to show she
can do it. Your mother being the headliner only makes
it that much easier for you to get a shot.
And you should give your child a shot if they
show and prove. I say that as someone who has
got my son a job at the school where I work.
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I told him before he even started, I said, our
school is a school for children on the autism spectrum
that are mild to milly severe in behavior. Okay, this
is school where you can get hurt if you are
not paying attention. You cannot show up here slacking. If
only to tread on my good name. He came. They
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interviewed him, and I said, look, if he comes through
in this interview, is horrible. Trash him his first week here, trashom.
There are like, hey, t can we say this and that? Dude? Hey,
he is an employee. He does not come into the office.
Hey daddy. They said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You are a suborder. You work under me. If I'm
telling you to do X y Z, this is what
you do. And I'm like, yes, as his father, I
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helped him get his first job, and people come into
the office all day long like, oh my god, like
this kid is amazing. And when he first started, we
told no one who he was absolutely knowing. Those who
know me and know my son were like, yeah, hey,
that But most of the folks.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
I take exception with that because anyone in theory could
apply for that job.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Anyone can.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But the difference is with Blue Ivy, not just anyone
is going to get a chance to step on stage
in the middle of a Beyonce concert and perform.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I hear you on that. And if if, if, if
I had power over the microphone here and my son
with his super basy voice and this, that and the
other said, hey, uh daddy, that's not an exaggeration. If
you know, Imo, I could really make something happen here
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at KFI. You know, could you put in a good word,
could you hook it up?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I absolutely would.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I would absolutely get my son to the front of
the line. Damn it. That's my prerogative and I have
the power to do so. You're damn right, I'm going
to You've met one of my blended sons. Yes, okay.
And he he has dreams of stardom in this business. Yes,
he that's not sure what he wants to do if
it's gonna be this or that or the other. And
I'm more than happy to facilitate opening the door so
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you can be exposed to something. But damn it, you're
gonna have to show me that you actually want it.
You gonna actually have to work for it.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yes, can't come in and say, well, I just want
my own show, I want to be on the mic.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
No, I'm not going to do that for you. I'm
going to point you in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'm going to direct you to the resources you need,
and I'm going to show you how you can be
better at your craft. But I'm not just gonna walk
into my boss's office and say, hey, you know, I want.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
My son to get a shot. I refuse.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
No.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
And you have and you have absolutely giving your son
the opportunity to come in and show his worth. I
just know in a world where we are already pulling back,
pulling back on the ways in which our children, you
and I as African American men, on our children being
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able to get a hit when others have not, When
no one else in this world is allowing their children
to take those same second and last places. No, no, no, no,
there's no reason for us to sit on our humble
pot and say, oh, we're going no, no, hell no.
Every single person in this country who is in some
point of leadership that is at the top, the first
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person they hire is their children. We have seen it here,
we have seen it every We've seen it in the
music industry all over the place. For us to try
to sit on that humble pot and say no, nah nah, Now,
I'm not gonna do it with my kid. My kid's
gonna work harder. No, no, no, I'm working harder right now.
So my child doesn't have to as long as as
long as he shows up and shows out. If he
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comes through here stinking, then his ass is out of here.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
The only difference is and I know we got to
go to break, but I do need to say this.
I have no problem with opening the door, but I'm
not going to walk him through and hold his hand.
There has to be some initiative on his part to
say that he wants this, not because he likes what
I do and wants to be on the microphone.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
And we've had that conversation.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You have to be willing to work, sometimes struggle, sometimes suffer.
I'm gonna make it. You gonna at least have the
opportunity that other people don't. He's been on the microphone.
There are a lot of people have never been on
the microphone. He's had the opportunity to produce here. Absolutely, Yes,
that's the one I know relate. But that's the one thing.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
I really really, really really respect that out of you,
because there's too much nepotism and it's just not fair
to people that work like me and you with no connection.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
But not only not even the nepotism, far as far
as fairness, I don't think it presents a good example
for him to follow if he's not actually having to
work for it.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Absolutely, If I am six forty live everywhere in my
heart ready.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
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