April 17, 2025 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A conversation with actress Wunmi Mosaku (HBO’s ‘Lovecraft Country,’ Marvel Studios ‘Loki’ and ‘Deadpool vs. Wolverine’), who joins the program with a preview of her co-starring role as spiritual leader ‘Annie’ in Warner Bros. Pictures ‘Sinners,’ the highly anticipated new supernatural thriller starring Michael B. Jordan, directed by Ryan Coogler; arriving in theaters nationwide on Fri, 4/18…PLUS – A look Time Magazine’s 2025 list of the “100 Most Influential People” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty KFI.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio, app Arriving in theaters
nationwide this Friday comes to new supernatural thriller Sinners, trying
to leave their troubled lives behind. Twin brothers and World
War One veterans, both played by Michael B. Jordan, nonetheless
returned to their hometown to start again, only to discover
that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.
(00:29):
But joining me right now on the show is one
of the co stars of Sinners, actress one Mi Masaku,
who you know from siries such as Lovecraft, Country Loki
and of course her TVA ties from Loki carried over
to the movie Deadpool and Wolverine. One Mi Masaku, A
pleasure to meet you. How are you this evening?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm good, Thank you?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm actually tickled because right now I've known you from
your best works such as Lovecraft, Country Loki and of
course the movie Deadpool and Wolverine, But I don't think
i've heard your natural voice until now. You grew up
in Manchester, England, and I'm always so curious about how
English actors may hear the so called American accent. What
do we sound like to you? And how do you
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go about mastering it?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh? Well, I love hearing American accents.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I love hearing how different they are from from east
to west, north to south.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's it's a challenge, but we hear so much.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
We get so many of your TV programs when we're
growing up, so we hear it a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
And then you know, then.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Getting to the specificity of different accents, like my character
and Sinners, I play someone from Louisiana, and you know,
I had a dialect coach in Beth Maguire who is amazing,
and it's it's it's yeah. I love doing accent work.
And it's interesting because it doesn't actually come naturally to me.
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But with a good teacher, I can get it. I
can't just listen and repeat, but I can someone can
break it down the hows and the whys and what
people are doing with their tongue and their mouth and
the back of the and their soft palette. I find
it like an really fun challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Sinners is, of course a supernatural horror film. Is directed
by Ryan Coogler. And as I said, my introduction starring
Michael B. Jordan, tell me more about this story in
how you as Annie come in?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So I play Annie?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Who is who? Do priestess, a conjure woman, a healer?
She is powerful and full of love and understanding and
and and and and she has such a groundedness and
connectedness with and her ancestry and the spirit world. She
is smokes other other half. So Smoke is played by
(02:50):
Michael B. Jordan. He plays Smoke and Stack, identical twins.
And she is smokes Person soul Tide, his safe place
and sanctuary. And yeah, she's someone who has the intuition
and the foresight and knows what's going on before most
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people know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
What y'all doing? Just step aside and let me hang
in now? Why you need him to do that?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You begining strong enough to push basses?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I wouldn't be too polite, now, would it, Miss Hanny.
I don't know why I'm talking to you anyway, So
don't talk to him.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You're talking to me right now.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Why you can't just walk your big ass up in
here without an environ?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Admit to it admit to what that you Dad, you're
listening to this now? Now we out here playing games,
telling ghost stories in place of doing what we ought
to do, and what is it we're supposed to be
doing being kind to one another, being polite.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Now we is one people and we shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Go in barging into other folks places uninvited.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So we've been in and out of Hill all day.
They never need an invite.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Dean.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, So I ain't had no.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
In working with someone like Michael B. Jordan and how
you are intimately tied. There's a level of intimacy with
your characters. Tell me about that production process. How much
rehearsal time might you have with him prior to doing scenes?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
We had two weeks rehearsal.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Everyone got spent this time kind of getting to know
their characters, getting figuring out their costume and spending time
with Ryan and Michael and understanding their history.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
We had.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
We had their history kind of written out like beat
by beat when they met, you know, when she moved
from Louisiana, when they when he went to war, and
we spent this time just like trying to flesh out
their past so that when they're reunited after seven years
of being apart all that history into the room with them,
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and whether or not you see it as an audience,
you feel it and yeah, so the rehearsal period is
really about getting to know each other, building that history
between us and and building trust so that we could
we can move freely with each other.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And safely and know like where our.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Where our strengths and weaknesses are, and where we need
the support and the space.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, Sinners is a powerful, powerful horror movie. And
the horror genre I would say has evolved over the
years where it was less psychological, less thriller, and more
bumps and jumps and screens, and this seems a return
to that. When you were reading the script, I'm quite
sure it impressed you one way, but after seeing the
(05:53):
final movie had probably impacted another way.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Talk to me about the powerful nature of the movie.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I feel like horror has such a I want to
say modern horror, but I don't. I don't watch a
lot of horror, but since like for me get Out,
horror has been such a powerful tool for for empathy,
for building empathy with audiences, whether it's you know, someone
who looks so different from you, what experiences the world
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in a different way from you. The horror, I don't know,
it triggers all those like instinctive like adrenaline and and
and anxiety and your sweat glands, and now you feel
an iota of what it might feel like to be
that person in that situation. And whether it's an asylum
seeker in his house or or Daniel callua in.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
In Get Out.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I feel like horror has a powerful way of connecting
people who otherwise may not understand the horrors of humanity,
that that part of humanity.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
So yeah, I think it's a really powerful tool.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You said something right there.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I want to go back and get you said you
didn't necessarily watch a lot of horror. But if I
look at your career, you've been able to do extensive
work in either fantasy, this being horror or science fiction.
Is that by chance or choice that you've been in
a world of make believe?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Let me put it that way.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I mean, for me, the story, the story the messages
that are told in these in these projects, whether it's Sinners,
Lovecraft Country, even in Loki, the story of like a
Crisis of Faith, the story of of of of of vampires,
(07:44):
of a vampire, spiritual or actual or uh or or energetically,
that taking trying to take what you have, your gift,
your You know, it's the story that matters. It's the
character journey for me that matters. I feel very lucky
that I've been in part of projects that really the
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story has moved me. The stories have changed me the
way I look at the world, the way I interact
with the world. So yeah, horror is to me. For me,
it always boils down to the story and the lessons
that I learn and with the way I'm challenged in
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my way of thinking. And it just happens to be
that some of the most creative ways of storytelling have
been through horror in the last few years.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
For me, Are you someone who is there the first
night to watch audience reaction to a movie like Sinners,
to see you on the big screen? Are you someone
who doesn't ever want to see yourself on the screen
and doesn't want to critique your own work.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
That's really interesting. I've never done that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I've never gone to the cinema on opening night to
see the the audience response. But my husband was thinking
saying the other day, maybe we should do that on
Friday and maybe I will. I think maybe I will,
but it's not.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Usually I've never done that before, but with this one,
it feels like it might be cool to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I have a feeling you might be right.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Centers in theaters nationwide see one be Masaku as Annie.
Thank you so much for coming on this evening, and
much success for you and the movie.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
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Speaker 2 (09:51):
Joining in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Something that we've had plenty of conversations about as far
as movies, how people to consume movies, whether they're going
to go to the theater, whether they're going to stay
home and stream, and I've said that it's gonna be
very difficult for movie theaters to survive going forward. I
want to tell you now about a North Bay movie theater.
(10:13):
Who or A should say, which is accepting donations because
they cannot compete anymore due to streaming.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Tiberan locals coming in left and right Tuesday to donate
money to what they call their community's theater. Owners of
Sine Lounge Tiberon says they are in over four hundred
thousand dollars in debt and they fear they'll have to
turn up the lights for good.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Honestly, it's it's been the hottest. It's been the hottest
probably six months of our lives. And just saying something
that you've created.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Just fooling a punt, not making fun of her suffering,
not at all. But if you say the hardest six
months of your life, you have to think about that's
the six.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Months since summer.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Movie theaters are still continually struggling with trying to find content,
having actual movies stay in theaters more than two weeks
or you know, twenty days, and also good movies.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
We have seen fewer.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Movies being made, fewer movies being in theaters, fewer movies
staying in theaters for any length of time, and you
have fewer theaters staying open all seven days of the
week because you can't hire staff or pay staff when
there's really no reason for them to be around if
you're not filling up the theater.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
It's been the hottest probably six months of our lives,
and just saying something that you've created, just fooling a pun.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Owners Christian and Camilla Meoli say the rising popularity of
streaming services and rent costs have led to the plunge
in ticket sales at their downtown theater. But as Sina
Lounge customer Brian Higgins sees it, watching a movie in
person outweighs streaming.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
And it really is like stealing away that experience that, like,
you know, I would like my son to have.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I get the communal experience of movies, but at the
same time, I would rather do out do without a
lot of the inconveniences of movie theaters, the a holes,
the drive, the time in which I have to go
to a theater. I can't watch a movie after midnight,
most likely because the movie isn't offered and I can't
(12:22):
stay up that late. And you can't watch it early
in the morning because most theaters don't open.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Before eleven or twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So it's one thing to want to have that communal experience,
it's another thing to actually have to go out of
your way to experience it. When that exact same movie
that is in a theater right now will be available
for you to stream in under three weeks, and just
about every every instance three weeks.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
It's hard when you know, you think that, wow, this
is going to become an anachronistic thing at some point
if we don't come together to protect places like this.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
The me always are doing everything they can, even offering
free showings like the Blue Movie, which the Higgins family
watched together.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They just like this place because they have dots, and
I really like dots, but I eat some fruits and
vegetables sometimes.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
The Center Lounge offers the traditional blockbuster movies, but they
also screen classic films and host various events.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We like to keep it.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Interesting, you know, and I feel like you kind of
have to these days.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Let me always say running the CID Lounge is a dream.
They took it over during the pandemic to help people
get over dark times, and they say they want to
continue to spread the love of movies to everyone.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I could be sympathetic.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
In fact, I am sympathetic, and I understand how and
why this movie theater is probably not special in the
sense of the problems that it's dealing with and the
struggles that is going through. I don't know how you
change that. I don't know if as long as there
is a more convenient option and arguably a less expensive option.
For example, I can watch any movie after three weeks
(14:03):
or so at home for about twenty dollars. I cannot
see a first run movie for twenty dollars. It's gonna
be at least eighteen dollars for one ticket, and I'm
gonna buy something to eat, which is gonna be another
eighteen dollars. Realistically, I'm gonna spend probably forty dollars to
see that one movie by myself, not including the time
spent of driving two and from gas in between.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
And then risk getting shot. When you tell the people
talking like they're in their own living room to stfu.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, you can't even guarantee the quality of the in
theater experience beyond that, And I think that's the larger point,
where like the corn Dogs, Yeah, yeah, you can't guarantee
that you won't have the a hole sitting next to
you or in front of you. You don't know if
the theater sound system will be up to snuff because
(14:53):
you go to different theaters. Sometimes it's two damn loud,
sometimes it's not loud enough. You might get Doobe depending
on the show, if it's available. You know, it's an
inconsistent experience as opposed to at home. My home theater
system is very consistent and it's very consistently good.
Speaker 10 (15:12):
Well, yeah, you've got an eighty incher on you there
at home. But the thing not including my TV. I
was only talking about your outsize television. The thing is
our culture has changed so much that man I was slow,
He didn't deserve it retracted.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I want you to revoke that rimshot.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
When we were younger, people just decided we're going to
the movies. That's a thing we do on the weekends
on a Friday night, doesn't matter what's playing, We're going
to the movies.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Pick one.
Speaker 10 (15:37):
But now there's got to be a special movie that
you specifically want to see to get your ass out
of your house because things have changed so much and
there's so many options at home. And let's be honest here,
the quality of movies not great.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Quality of movies not great, and also the frequency of
quality of movies not great.
Speaker 10 (15:56):
I mean if you saw the Oscars. This is the
first Oscars where I was like, I'm barely interested in
any of this stuff this year.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, there's not the mystique that there used to be
about movies, the people who are in movies, and going
back to the Oscars. The only time you're going to
see Bradley Cooper, for example, was going to be at
the Oscars. Now, with social media, we can just see
what he's eating for lunch, when he's you know, he's
on vacation, when he's having a quiet moment with his
daughter or something.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All of that is out there.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So the mystique for the movies and movie stars is
not what it once was.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
I was joking last week about a lying that we
used to go see the new John Savage movie, and
these days where we're gonna go see the new Rami
Malick movie. You don't really hear that anymore. And there
aren't any like Sean Connery or whoever. Major stars are like,
oh his new ones out, I gotta go see that.
I'll see like the new Charles Bronson movies. I remember
my mom taking me to the new Charles Bronson movies,
(16:51):
and that was the fish I think I was a
little young for Death Wish, but some of the later ones.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I will say this before we go to break movies,
and I used to love going to the movie theater.
It just doesn't serve the same purpose. It doesn't have
the same utility anymore. For example, like the amateur, I
want to get to see it this week, this past weekend,
I couldn't because of my schedule. Guess what It'll be
on streaming another week and a half. Yeah, And that's
(17:17):
what I was gonna say. I always have reruns of
my favorite shows in the background. And the first thing
that I saw when I turned on my TV Captain
America Brave New World already on stream, already the stream,
and I'm like, okay, it's.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Hard to fight against that. Now.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
They talked about making a minimum a forty five day window,
which would help, but it doesn't help what Mark brought
out as far as the number of movies available, and
the quality of the movies is inarguably not on the
same level. So and since it's more expensive than ever before,
you need to have quality to justify the expenditure. And
if you're not going to up the quality, you're not
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going to justify the expenditure. It's Later with mokel We
got to talk about this horrible Time one hundred most
Influential lists. Time is not what it once was. The magazine,
the whole idea of a Time magazine is antiquated, and
it's even its presentation. But we'll tell you about this
and you'll laugh with us when we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Let's get into this Time one hundred most Influential People
of twenty twenty five. And when I was growing up,
Time magazine was a big deal. Being on the cover
of Time magazine, being the Time Man of the Year,
Woman of the Year. Now is Time Person of the Year.
Those were big deals in America. It was a position
of status. It honored world leaders. It was relatively neutral,
(18:44):
I think, correct me if I'm wrong. Mark wasn't Hitler
a Time Person the Year won of the Year influential?
That was a little before my time. Okay, no pun intended,
but I believe so. In other words, it acknowledges people
of great importance, not necessary celebratory.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
Yeah, it's people who have outsized influence, good or bad.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Notwithstanding right, this year's list, and I think it's more
of the same for time. Time is not relevant anymore.
Let's be honest. People don't read magazines anymore. People don't
look to time to tell us who is influential. And
if you have a modicum of understanding of who actually
exerts influence, you'll realize this list is an absolute joke
(19:27):
and it's not based in any type of reality. I
don't know they have a good publicist, maybe they have
an album which is getting ready to come out and
it coincides with their promotional needs. I don't know what
it is, but this list is not indicative of real influence.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Let's go to the list.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's broken down in different categories, and I'm just going
to give you the name, and either you recognize the
name or not.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
We're talking about influence. You should be able to speak to.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
How influential that person is or how well known that
person is. For artists, first category, just reading the list,
Ed Sheeran, No, he's not one of the most influential
artists in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Rather generous.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Scarlett Johansson, No, no, she's I'm sorry not to minimize
her career. She's any one of thousands of different actresses
out there.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
She's an A list actress. But what is her influence
on the culture.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I have no idea. I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
I will say I was kind of taken by surprise
when she had just the briefest cameo on Saturday night
this weekend, and she got a massive round of applause
and hoots from the audience. Maybe she's more popular than
we think.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Not popular enough to get Kamala Harris elected. Remember she
had that big campaign that she did with the other
Marvel Avengers.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
I think she was one who spearheaded that. Yeah, the
Avengers aren't as powerful as they think.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Daniel day Kim like him as an actor, but most
people don't know his name if you just said it,
if you haven't known from my guy, I think Hawaii
five Oh Lost? Okay, I say Hawaii five Oh, you
say lost, Tomato, Tomato. But those are singular points of recognition.
Fine actor, but still Kristen Bell crickets, crickets, okay. Adam
(21:21):
Adam Scott, I know an Adam, I know a Scott.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't know it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Adam Scott, No, I don't know who is he's the
he was the main guy or not the main guy,
but he the main guy started on Parks and Reck.
That's very obscure. Okay, what have you? Can you tell
me something he's did in the past ten years?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, yeah, yeah, he's in that severance.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, I haven't seen Severence all right, but still it's
it's an actor, not the actor, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And actor he might be.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
There might be an argument there in the world. Well
just I mean, for what he's done recently. I don't
know if there's an argument. I'm I'm I'm waiting for
the argument. Rashida Jones, I know who she is, you know,
but Diego Luna, the star of and Or. Okay, see,
(22:19):
I don't even I can't even tell you who he
looks like. But I get why he's on that list.
Why I mean, he's he's like trendy, Okay, but trending
doesn't say to me influence. And Or is a I'll say,
well regarded Star Wars Disney Plus property.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
He's not even the best thing about that show.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But he's not a name where people say, I say
Diego Luna, you automatically know who he is.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
We're talking about influence, No twallet, don't you dare?
Speaker 11 (22:51):
He goes far beyond the realm of justh and or
see see he is.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
A known actor. We don't go watch a lot of.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
Movies now, does not mean that he's Time one hundred material.
He is an influencer in what he does outside of
just in television and film and how he speaks out
on issues in the world. He has become a player
in that realm.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, we need to get down this list. Nicole Sharesinger,
Kristen Wigg.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Willie Chavaria.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Wait, Nicole's number two? Nicole Sharesinger number two? Is she
like is that pussy Cat Dolls?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah? Yeah, that alone? Okay, that okay.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Danielle dead Wiler, why not Hoosier Josier? He has that
one hit song, Hoser? Ye got two? Now, that's what
I said. Yeah, I've known of the other two, but
I wouldn't take the second.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It is fully a hit. But Miranda July, why are
you hating on Miranda July. I'm not hating him.
Speaker 12 (23:53):
Just say it's not Time one hundred j just because
you don't know what Miranda's been up to.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Brandon Jacob Jenkins, John Jacob jing O Harmer Smith spot
name too, yes, Mohammed Rasulov of course in this day
is yes.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Annabelle Selldorff, you're just making names. No, I swear to you.
I'm reading the names.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
I was a big fan of Thalmas Rasulola too. By
the way, Yoshit Tomo Narah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, Now, next list is icons will carry this over
to the next break.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So you know this is icons.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Icons should not have to have any type of discussion,
either iconic or not.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think it's pretty straightforward. Okay to me? More yep, okay.
Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, he is the quarterback for this for the Super
Bowl winning Eagles, but outside of football, nobody knows who
he is.
Speaker 11 (24:48):
The first one to say, you know, fly Eagle flyers,
something like that, he did something important for the game.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
After Adrian Brody. Now, the people on the other list
are bigger than Adrian Brody, but Adrian Brody is big
enough to himself. Oh yeah, yeah, because he won that
second Oscar. See Gisel Pelico. I'll agree with this one.
Gisell Pelicot because of her free why because of her
her case in France about being a victim of sexual
(25:15):
abuse over nine years.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That was a huge story. Uh hero Yuki Sonata, I
know him as an.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Actor, yep, I guess he's getting towards iconic status.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Is he from Showgun? Yes?
Speaker 11 (25:26):
Yes, but he has put in enough work to earn
a spot on this list.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Damn it? All right, let's go down this very quick.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Angeline Mura, Mira Mirwah, David Muir, that's ABC News. Raquel
Willis not to be confused with Racael Welsh, Anthony d Romero.
How the hell you're gonna skip Bobby Brown? What's wrong
with you? Because they don't mean Bobby Christina Brown. They
(25:53):
mean Millie Bobby Brown break and that's not even worth
even mentioning Yoshiki.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Excuse? Don't they have a beef ball spot? Don't you
do that? Don't do that? Hold the msg. Amy Griffin.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Not to be confused with Kathy Griffin, Leone Marschaun and
Fat Too Balde.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
There are two possibilities. Either we're all really out of
touch or this list is trash.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think it's the latter.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And YouTube are going through the time one hundred horrible
lists of most influential people in the world. And the
only way I can get to this list, We're gonna
do it like this. I'm gonna give you a name,
and you have to tell me whether you even know
who they are. Okay, that's how obscure they're going. Now
we're in the leader's portion. Okay, Keir Starmer anyone? Oh yeah, okay,
(26:52):
Claudius Claudius Steinbaum, I know who that is.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
No President of Mexico, Donald Trump, anyone? Anyone? Oh yeah,
home alone too, got it?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I see what you did there, Maria Corina Machado.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, I like the name. I like the way you
said that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Elon Musk, Yeah, he deserves me on the list, Mohammed Jennis.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Sounds familiar.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Camp got nothing but Howard Lutnick. I know who he is.
He shouldn't be on the list Commerce secretary people. He's
only come into any type of prominence in the past
eighty days. Uh tidros at Hanan give nevermind.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Jd Vance.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, I think it's perfunctory that you put the Vice
president of the United States on these lists.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
So I'm not going to complain about that. Rishma ku Ramani.
Speaker 11 (27:50):
You don't know Rischma Friedrich Myers, nor do you know
Friedrich Megan Kelly, I know who she is.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Come on, there are other podcasts that you can put
on this list.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Lee J.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Myong? Is that the president President of South Korea? I
don't know. Teresa Ribera, don't know. No, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Sure,
why not? Okay? Andrea Vaduore duer Vider.
Speaker 10 (28:22):
If you don't know the pronunciation, that means they don't
belong on the list. Duma Boco.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Not to be confused with Boko Haram, Russell Vaught.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I know who it is.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I just don't know how the OMB director gets on
the time one hundred other than just pandering to the administration.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
His Project twenty twenty five agenda is being implemented right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Oh okay, that's why he's on that. That's true.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Okay, then I'll change my vote. And yes, that was
very influential. Javier Milay, Noah Argamani Mo Abudu and Ahmed
Shahrah Okay, And now for the Titans category.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Serena Williams, Yes, okay, Ed Bastian who's that mm hmm.
Blake Lively because she's in the news with the Justin
Bald that thumb wife, right, yeah, right exactly. Lorne Michaels, yeah, sure,
why not come on this year?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay? And for the Simon Biles Okay, yeah, she's having
a moment.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Doug McMillan, don't know, don't know, mu Muka Prada, Prada, Yeah, okay, Prada,
Percival Everett mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Named after the Everts. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Ted Sarandos, that's Netflix, okay, Joe Rogan, yes, Lisa Suit
don't know, Mark Zuckerberg, yes, Bonnie why Chin as opposed
to body be Chan, I don't know. Alex carp nope,
(30:06):
Jonathan Green Black yes, uh yeah, Stephen J.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Squery for a second that this is this, Stephen J. Squirt,
I not.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It might as well have been Pioneers and I think
this is the last. There's another categoryphic we'll run through this. Pioneers.
Dennis No, Demise Hassebus.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Rose as in like wine or is it Rose? What
has the Accident of the East. I think it's Rose.
Andrew Forrest mm hmm.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
That's Everett Forest brother, you're talking about it forest the forests.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I don't know who that is. Robert Montgomery, I don't know,
Bob Breonna Stewart.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
And if I think that's w NBA players, and if so,
you have to have Caitlin Clark. You have to influential,
not not conversation, not not not even close. Just the
interest in Caitlin Clark, what she did for the ratings
of w NBA, Like her or not, it's inarguable.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Robin Wall Kimmerer, mm hmmm, Dario Amodi, Miles Smith, your
son is on this. I was thinking the same thing.
It's like, I don't know how he did it before
I did. Cordelia Barr, Julie burkat leang Win Fang, Alison Ceesso, Suso,
(31:35):
Thomas Cilar and Wesley's Sun Kissed Quist.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't know the innovators. Here's the last list, very quickly.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Snoop Dogg Yes, Nicki Glazer, she's had a great year,
my young song, don't know, Larry Fink, don't know, Kwame
on Yuachi, No, Sandra Diaz, Michaeleen Thomas, John m ch
have a director baby maybe maybe. Yeah, Wendy Freeman, don't
(32:02):
know Josh cost cooff shoot a tip knock stunt to Ronam,
Wait a second, I'm serious Christian Happy Issue mm hmm
is Mahine Eloofi, No, it ain't Sky, Perryman, Tim cattle
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Gun and Dick Thompson better known as Richard. And there
you have the worst Times one hundred most wential list
of twenty twenty five. It's later with Mo Kelly, I
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It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio, app Arriving in theaters
nationwide this Friday comes to new supernatural thriller Sinners, trying
to leave their troubled lives behind. Twin brothers and World
War One veterans, both played by Michael B. Jordan, nonetheless
returned to their hometown to start again, only to discover
that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.
(00:29):
But joining me right now on the show is one
of the co stars of Sinners, actress one Mi Masaku,
who you know from siries such as Lovecraft, Country Loki
and of course her TVA ties from Loki carried over
to the movie Deadpool and Wolverine. One Mi Masaku, A
pleasure to meet you. How are you this evening?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm good, Thank you?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm actually tickled because right now I've known you from
your best works such as Lovecraft, Country Loki and of
course the movie Deadpool and Wolverine, But I don't think
i've heard your natural voice until now. You grew up
in Manchester, England, and I'm always so curious about how
English actors may hear the so called American accent. What
do we sound like to you? And how do you
(01:10):
go about mastering it?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Oh? Well, I love hearing American accents.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I love hearing how different they are from from east
to west, north to south.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's it's a challenge, but we hear so much.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
We get so many of your TV programs when we're
growing up, so we hear it a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
And then you know, then.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Getting to the specificity of different accents, like my character
and Sinners, I play someone from Louisiana, and you know,
I had a dialect coach in Beth Maguire who is amazing,
and it's it's it's yeah. I love doing accent work.
And it's interesting because it doesn't actually come naturally to me.
(01:53):
But with a good teacher, I can get it. I
can't just listen and repeat, but I can someone can
break it down the hows and the whys and what
people are doing with their tongue and their mouth and
the back of the and their soft palette. I find
it like an really fun challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Sinners is, of course a supernatural horror film. Is directed
by Ryan Coogler. And as I said, my introduction starring
Michael B. Jordan, tell me more about this story in
how you as Annie come in?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
So I play Annie?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Who is who? Do priestess, a conjure woman, a healer?
She is powerful and full of love and understanding and
and and and and she has such a groundedness and
connectedness with and her ancestry and the spirit world. She
is smokes other other half. So Smoke is played by
(02:50):
Michael B. Jordan. He plays Smoke and Stack, identical twins.
And she is smokes Person soul Tide, his safe place
and sanctuary. And yeah, she's someone who has the intuition
and the foresight and knows what's going on before most
(03:10):
people know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
What y'all doing? Just step aside and let me hang
in now? Why you need him to do that?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You begining strong enough to push basses?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
What?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I wouldn't be too polite, now, would it, Miss Hanny.
I don't know why I'm talking to you anyway, So
don't talk to him.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
You're talking to me right now.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Why you can't just walk your big ass up in
here without an environ?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Admit to it admit to what that you Dad, you're
listening to this now? Now we out here playing games,
telling ghost stories in place of doing what we ought
to do, and what is it we're supposed to be
doing being kind to one another, being polite.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Now we is one people and we shouldn't.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Go in barging into other folks places uninvited.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So we've been in and out of Hill all day.
They never need an invite.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Dean.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, So I ain't had no.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
In working with someone like Michael B. Jordan and how
you are intimately tied. There's a level of intimacy with
your characters. Tell me about that production process. How much
rehearsal time might you have with him prior to doing scenes?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
We had two weeks rehearsal.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Everyone got spent this time kind of getting to know
their characters, getting figuring out their costume and spending time
with Ryan and Michael and understanding their history.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
We had.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
We had their history kind of written out like beat
by beat when they met, you know, when she moved
from Louisiana, when they when he went to war, and
we spent this time just like trying to flesh out
their past so that when they're reunited after seven years
of being apart all that history into the room with them,
(05:01):
and whether or not you see it as an audience,
you feel it and yeah, so the rehearsal period is
really about getting to know each other, building that history
between us and and building trust so that we could
we can move freely with each other.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And safely and know like where our.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Where our strengths and weaknesses are, and where we need
the support and the space.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, Sinners is a powerful, powerful horror movie. And
the horror genre I would say has evolved over the
years where it was less psychological, less thriller, and more
bumps and jumps and screens, and this seems a return
to that. When you were reading the script, I'm quite
sure it impressed you one way, but after seeing the
(05:53):
final movie had probably impacted another way.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Talk to me about the powerful nature of the movie.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I feel like horror has such a I want to
say modern horror, but I don't. I don't watch a
lot of horror, but since like for me get Out,
horror has been such a powerful tool for for empathy,
for building empathy with audiences, whether it's you know, someone
who looks so different from you, what experiences the world
(06:21):
in a different way from you. The horror, I don't know,
it triggers all those like instinctive like adrenaline and and
and anxiety and your sweat glands, and now you feel
an iota of what it might feel like to be
that person in that situation. And whether it's an asylum
seeker in his house or or Daniel callua in.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
In Get Out.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I feel like horror has a powerful way of connecting
people who otherwise may not understand the horrors of humanity,
that that part of humanity.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
So yeah, I think it's a really powerful tool.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
You said something right there.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I want to go back and get you said you
didn't necessarily watch a lot of horror. But if I
look at your career, you've been able to do extensive
work in either fantasy, this being horror or science fiction.
Is that by chance or choice that you've been in
a world of make believe?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Let me put it that way.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I mean, for me, the story, the story the messages
that are told in these in these projects, whether it's Sinners,
Lovecraft Country, even in Loki, the story of like a
Crisis of Faith, the story of of of of of vampires,
(07:44):
of a vampire, spiritual or actual or uh or or energetically,
that taking trying to take what you have, your gift,
your You know, it's the story that matters. It's the
character journey for me that matters. I feel very lucky
that I've been in part of projects that really the
(08:08):
story has moved me. The stories have changed me the
way I look at the world, the way I interact
with the world. So yeah, horror is to me. For me,
it always boils down to the story and the lessons
that I learn and with the way I'm challenged in
(08:28):
my way of thinking. And it just happens to be
that some of the most creative ways of storytelling have
been through horror in the last few years.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
For me, Are you someone who is there the first
night to watch audience reaction to a movie like Sinners,
to see you on the big screen? Are you someone
who doesn't ever want to see yourself on the screen
and doesn't want to critique your own work.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
That's really interesting. I've never done that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I've never gone to the cinema on opening night to
see the the audience response. But my husband was thinking
saying the other day, maybe we should do that on
Friday and maybe I will. I think maybe I will,
but it's not.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Usually I've never done that before, but with this one,
it feels like it might be cool to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I have a feeling you might be right.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Centers in theaters nationwide see one be Masaku as Annie.
Thank you so much for coming on this evening, and
much success for you and the movie.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
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Speaker 2 (09:51):
Joining in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Something that we've had plenty of conversations about as far
as movies, how people to consume movies, whether they're going
to go to the theater, whether they're going to stay
home and stream, and I've said that it's gonna be
very difficult for movie theaters to survive going forward. I
want to tell you now about a North Bay movie theater.
(10:13):
Who or A should say, which is accepting donations because
they cannot compete anymore due to streaming.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Tiberan locals coming in left and right Tuesday to donate
money to what they call their community's theater. Owners of
Sine Lounge Tiberon says they are in over four hundred
thousand dollars in debt and they fear they'll have to
turn up the lights for good.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Honestly, it's it's been the hottest. It's been the hottest
probably six months of our lives. And just saying something
that you've created.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Just fooling a punt, not making fun of her suffering,
not at all. But if you say the hardest six
months of your life, you have to think about that's
the six.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Months since summer.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Movie theaters are still continually struggling with trying to find content,
having actual movies stay in theaters more than two weeks
or you know, twenty days, and also good movies.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
We have seen fewer.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Movies being made, fewer movies being in theaters, fewer movies
staying in theaters for any length of time, and you
have fewer theaters staying open all seven days of the
week because you can't hire staff or pay staff when
there's really no reason for them to be around if
you're not filling up the theater.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
It's been the hottest probably six months of our lives,
and just saying something that you've created, just fooling a pun.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Owners Christian and Camilla Meoli say the rising popularity of
streaming services and rent costs have led to the plunge
in ticket sales at their downtown theater. But as Sina
Lounge customer Brian Higgins sees it, watching a movie in
person outweighs streaming.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
And it really is like stealing away that experience that, like,
you know, I would like my son to have.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I get the communal experience of movies, but at the
same time, I would rather do out do without a
lot of the inconveniences of movie theaters, the a holes,
the drive, the time in which I have to go
to a theater. I can't watch a movie after midnight,
most likely because the movie isn't offered and I can't
(12:22):
stay up that late. And you can't watch it early
in the morning because most theaters don't open.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Before eleven or twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So it's one thing to want to have that communal experience,
it's another thing to actually have to go out of
your way to experience it. When that exact same movie
that is in a theater right now will be available
for you to stream in under three weeks, and just
about every every instance three weeks.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
It's hard when you know, you think that, wow, this
is going to become an anachronistic thing at some point
if we don't come together to protect places like this.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
The me always are doing everything they can, even offering
free showings like the Blue Movie, which the Higgins family
watched together.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
They just like this place because they have dots, and
I really like dots, but I eat some fruits and
vegetables sometimes.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
The Center Lounge offers the traditional blockbuster movies, but they
also screen classic films and host various events.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
We like to keep it.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Interesting, you know, and I feel like you kind of
have to these days.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Let me always say running the CID Lounge is a dream.
They took it over during the pandemic to help people
get over dark times, and they say they want to
continue to spread the love of movies to everyone.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I could be sympathetic.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
In fact, I am sympathetic, and I understand how and
why this movie theater is probably not special in the
sense of the problems that it's dealing with and the
struggles that is going through. I don't know how you
change that. I don't know if as long as there
is a more convenient option and arguably a less expensive option.
For example, I can watch any movie after three weeks
(14:03):
or so at home for about twenty dollars. I cannot
see a first run movie for twenty dollars. It's gonna
be at least eighteen dollars for one ticket, and I'm
gonna buy something to eat, which is gonna be another
eighteen dollars. Realistically, I'm gonna spend probably forty dollars to
see that one movie by myself, not including the time
spent of driving two and from gas in between.
Speaker 10 (14:27):
And then risk getting shot. When you tell the people
talking like they're in their own living room to stfu.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well, you can't even guarantee the quality of the in
theater experience beyond that, And I think that's the larger point,
where like the corn Dogs, Yeah, yeah, you can't guarantee
that you won't have the a hole sitting next to
you or in front of you. You don't know if
the theater sound system will be up to snuff because
(14:53):
you go to different theaters. Sometimes it's two damn loud,
sometimes it's not loud enough. You might get Doobe depending
on the show, if it's available. You know, it's an
inconsistent experience as opposed to at home. My home theater
system is very consistent and it's very consistently good.
Speaker 10 (15:12):
Well, yeah, you've got an eighty incher on you there
at home. But the thing not including my TV. I
was only talking about your outsize television. The thing is
our culture has changed so much that man I was slow,
He didn't deserve it retracted.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I want you to revoke that rimshot.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
When we were younger, people just decided we're going to
the movies. That's a thing we do on the weekends
on a Friday night, doesn't matter what's playing, We're going
to the movies.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Pick one.
Speaker 10 (15:37):
But now there's got to be a special movie that
you specifically want to see to get your ass out
of your house because things have changed so much and
there's so many options at home. And let's be honest here,
the quality of movies not great.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Quality of movies not great, and also the frequency of
quality of movies not great.
Speaker 10 (15:56):
I mean if you saw the Oscars. This is the
first Oscars where I was like, I'm barely interested in
any of this stuff this year.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, there's not the mystique that there used to be
about movies, the people who are in movies, and going
back to the Oscars. The only time you're going to
see Bradley Cooper, for example, was going to be at
the Oscars. Now, with social media, we can just see
what he's eating for lunch, when he's you know, he's
on vacation, when he's having a quiet moment with his
daughter or something.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
All of that is out there.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
So the mystique for the movies and movie stars is
not what it once was.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
I was joking last week about a lying that we
used to go see the new John Savage movie, and
these days where we're gonna go see the new Rami
Malick movie. You don't really hear that anymore. And there
aren't any like Sean Connery or whoever. Major stars are like,
oh his new ones out, I gotta go see that.
I'll see like the new Charles Bronson movies. I remember
my mom taking me to the new Charles Bronson movies,
(16:51):
and that was the fish I think I was a
little young for Death Wish, but some of the later ones.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I will say this before we go to break movies,
and I used to love going to the movie theater.
It just doesn't serve the same purpose. It doesn't have
the same utility anymore. For example, like the amateur, I
want to get to see it this week, this past weekend,
I couldn't because of my schedule. Guess what It'll be
on streaming another week and a half. Yeah, And that's
(17:17):
what I was gonna say. I always have reruns of
my favorite shows in the background. And the first thing
that I saw when I turned on my TV Captain
America Brave New World already on stream, already the stream,
and I'm like, okay, it's.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Hard to fight against that. Now.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
They talked about making a minimum a forty five day window,
which would help, but it doesn't help what Mark brought
out as far as the number of movies available, and
the quality of the movies is inarguably not on the
same level. So and since it's more expensive than ever before,
you need to have quality to justify the expenditure. And
if you're not going to up the quality, you're not
(17:55):
going to justify the expenditure. It's Later with mokel We
got to talk about this horrible Time one hundred most
Influential lists. Time is not what it once was. The magazine,
the whole idea of a Time magazine is antiquated, and
it's even its presentation. But we'll tell you about this
and you'll laugh with us when we come back.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Let's get into this Time one hundred most Influential People
of twenty twenty five. And when I was growing up,
Time magazine was a big deal. Being on the cover
of Time magazine, being the Time Man of the Year,
Woman of the Year. Now is Time Person of the Year.
Those were big deals in America. It was a position
of status. It honored world leaders. It was relatively neutral,
(18:44):
I think, correct me if I'm wrong. Mark wasn't Hitler
a Time Person the Year won of the Year influential?
That was a little before my time. Okay, no pun intended,
but I believe so. In other words, it acknowledges people
of great importance, not necessary celebratory.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
Yeah, it's people who have outsized influence, good or bad.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Notwithstanding right, this year's list, and I think it's more
of the same for time. Time is not relevant anymore.
Let's be honest. People don't read magazines anymore. People don't
look to time to tell us who is influential. And
if you have a modicum of understanding of who actually
exerts influence, you'll realize this list is an absolute joke
(19:27):
and it's not based in any type of reality. I
don't know they have a good publicist, maybe they have
an album which is getting ready to come out and
it coincides with their promotional needs. I don't know what
it is, but this list is not indicative of real influence.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Let's go to the list.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's broken down in different categories, and I'm just going
to give you the name, and either you recognize the
name or not.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
We're talking about influence. You should be able to speak to.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
How influential that person is or how well known that
person is. For artists, first category, just reading the list,
Ed Sheeran, No, he's not one of the most influential
artists in the world.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Rather generous.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Scarlett Johansson, No, no, she's I'm sorry not to minimize
her career. She's any one of thousands of different actresses
out there.
Speaker 10 (20:20):
She's an A list actress. But what is her influence
on the culture.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I have no idea. I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 10 (20:27):
I will say I was kind of taken by surprise
when she had just the briefest cameo on Saturday night
this weekend, and she got a massive round of applause
and hoots from the audience. Maybe she's more popular than
we think.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Not popular enough to get Kamala Harris elected. Remember she
had that big campaign that she did with the other
Marvel Avengers.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
I think she was one who spearheaded that. Yeah, the
Avengers aren't as powerful as they think.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Daniel day Kim like him as an actor, but most
people don't know his name if you just said it,
if you haven't known from my guy, I think Hawaii
five Oh Lost? Okay, I say Hawaii five Oh, you
say lost, Tomato, Tomato. But those are singular points of recognition.
Fine actor, but still Kristen Bell crickets, crickets, okay. Adam
(21:21):
Adam Scott, I know an Adam, I know a Scott.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I don't know it.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Adam Scott, No, I don't know who is he's the
he was the main guy or not the main guy,
but he the main guy started on Parks and Reck.
That's very obscure. Okay, what have you? Can you tell
me something he's did in the past ten years?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, yeah, yeah, he's in that severance.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Okay, I haven't seen Severence all right, but still it's
it's an actor, not the actor, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And actor he might be.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
There might be an argument there in the world. Well
just I mean, for what he's done recently. I don't
know if there's an argument. I'm I'm I'm waiting for
the argument. Rashida Jones, I know who she is, you know,
but Diego Luna, the star of and Or. Okay, see,
(22:19):
I don't even I can't even tell you who he
looks like. But I get why he's on that list.
Why I mean, he's he's like trendy, Okay, but trending
doesn't say to me influence. And Or is a I'll say,
well regarded Star Wars Disney Plus property.
Speaker 10 (22:41):
He's not even the best thing about that show.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But he's not a name where people say, I say
Diego Luna, you automatically know who he is.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
We're talking about influence, No twallet, don't you dare?
Speaker 11 (22:51):
He goes far beyond the realm of justh and or
see see he is.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
A known actor. We don't go watch a lot of.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
Movies now, does not mean that he's Time one hundred material.
He is an influencer in what he does outside of
just in television and film and how he speaks out
on issues in the world. He has become a player
in that realm.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Okay, we need to get down this list. Nicole Sharesinger,
Kristen Wigg.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Willie Chavaria.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Wait, Nicole's number two? Nicole Sharesinger number two? Is she
like is that pussy Cat Dolls?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah? Yeah, that alone? Okay, that okay.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Danielle dead Wiler, why not Hoosier Josier? He has that
one hit song, Hoser? Ye got two? Now, that's what
I said. Yeah, I've known of the other two, but
I wouldn't take the second.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It is fully a hit. But Miranda July, why are
you hating on Miranda July. I'm not hating him.
Speaker 12 (23:53):
Just say it's not Time one hundred j just because
you don't know what Miranda's been up to.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Brandon Jacob Jenkins, John Jacob jing O Harmer Smith spot
name too, yes, Mohammed Rasulov of course in this day
is yes.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Annabelle Selldorff, you're just making names. No, I swear to you.
I'm reading the names.
Speaker 10 (24:17):
I was a big fan of Thalmas Rasulola too. By
the way, Yoshit Tomo Narah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, Now, next list is icons will carry this over
to the next break.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So you know this is icons.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Icons should not have to have any type of discussion,
either iconic or not.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think it's pretty straightforward. Okay to me? More yep, okay.
Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, he is the quarterback for this for the Super
Bowl winning Eagles, but outside of football, nobody knows who
he is.
Speaker 11 (24:48):
The first one to say, you know, fly Eagle flyers,
something like that, he did something important for the game.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
After Adrian Brody. Now, the people on the other list
are bigger than Adrian Brody, but Adrian Brody is big
enough to himself. Oh yeah, yeah, because he won that
second Oscar. See Gisel Pelico. I'll agree with this one.
Gisell Pelicot because of her free why because of her
her case in France about being a victim of sexual
(25:15):
abuse over nine years.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
That was a huge story. Uh hero Yuki Sonata, I
know him as an.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Actor, yep, I guess he's getting towards iconic status.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Is he from Showgun? Yes?
Speaker 11 (25:26):
Yes, but he has put in enough work to earn
a spot on this list.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Damn it? All right, let's go down this very quick.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Angeline Mura, Mira Mirwah, David Muir, that's ABC News. Raquel
Willis not to be confused with Racael Welsh, Anthony d Romero.
How the hell you're gonna skip Bobby Brown? What's wrong
with you? Because they don't mean Bobby Christina Brown. They
(25:53):
mean Millie Bobby Brown break and that's not even worth
even mentioning Yoshiki.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Excuse? Don't they have a beef ball spot? Don't you
do that? Don't do that? Hold the msg. Amy Griffin.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Not to be confused with Kathy Griffin, Leone Marschaun and
Fat Too Balde.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
There are two possibilities. Either we're all really out of
touch or this list is trash.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think it's the latter.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And YouTube are going through the time one hundred horrible
lists of most influential people in the world. And the
only way I can get to this list, We're gonna
do it like this. I'm gonna give you a name,
and you have to tell me whether you even know
who they are. Okay, that's how obscure they're going. Now
we're in the leader's portion. Okay, Keir Starmer anyone? Oh yeah, okay,
(26:52):
Claudius Claudius Steinbaum, I know who that is.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
No President of Mexico, Donald Trump, anyone? Anyone? Oh yeah,
home alone too, got it?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I see what you did there, Maria Corina Machado.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, I like the name. I like the way you
said that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Elon Musk, Yeah, he deserves me on the list, Mohammed Jennis.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Sounds familiar.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Camp got nothing but Howard Lutnick. I know who he is.
He shouldn't be on the list Commerce secretary people. He's
only come into any type of prominence in the past
eighty days. Uh tidros at Hanan give nevermind.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Jd Vance.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, I think it's perfunctory that you put the Vice
president of the United States on these lists.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
So I'm not going to complain about that. Rishma ku Ramani.
Speaker 11 (27:50):
You don't know Rischma Friedrich Myers, nor do you know
Friedrich Megan Kelly, I know who she is.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Come on, there are other podcasts that you can put
on this list.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Lee J.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Myong? Is that the president President of South Korea? I
don't know. Teresa Ribera, don't know. No, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Sure,
why not? Okay? Andrea Vaduore duer Vider.
Speaker 10 (28:22):
If you don't know the pronunciation, that means they don't
belong on the list. Duma Boco.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Not to be confused with Boko Haram, Russell Vaught.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I know who it is.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I just don't know how the OMB director gets on
the time one hundred other than just pandering to the administration.
Speaker 10 (28:41):
His Project twenty twenty five agenda is being implemented right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Oh okay, that's why he's on that. That's true.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Okay, then I'll change my vote. And yes, that was
very influential. Javier Milay, Noah Argamani Mo Abudu and Ahmed
Shahrah Okay, And now for the Titans category.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Serena Williams, Yes, okay, Ed Bastian who's that mm hmm.
Blake Lively because she's in the news with the Justin
Bald that thumb wife, right, yeah, right exactly. Lorne Michaels, yeah, sure,
why not come on this year?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay? And for the Simon Biles Okay, yeah, she's having
a moment.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Doug McMillan, don't know, don't know, mu Muka Prada, Prada, Yeah, okay, Prada,
Percival Everett mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Named after the Everts. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Ted Sarandos, that's Netflix, okay, Joe Rogan, yes, Lisa Suit
don't know, Mark Zuckerberg, yes, Bonnie why Chin as opposed
to body be Chan, I don't know. Alex carp nope,
(30:06):
Jonathan Green Black yes, uh yeah, Stephen J.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Squery for a second that this is this, Stephen J. Squirt,
I not.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It might as well have been Pioneers and I think
this is the last. There's another categoryphic we'll run through this. Pioneers.
Dennis No, Demise Hassebus.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Rose as in like wine or is it Rose? What
has the Accident of the East. I think it's Rose.
Andrew Forrest mm hmm.
Speaker 11 (30:38):
That's Everett Forest brother, you're talking about it forest the forests.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I don't know who that is. Robert Montgomery, I don't know,
Bob Breonna Stewart.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
And if I think that's w NBA players, and if so,
you have to have Caitlin Clark. You have to influential,
not not conversation, not not not even close. Just the
interest in Caitlin Clark, what she did for the ratings
of w NBA, Like her or not, it's inarguable.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Robin Wall Kimmerer, mm hmmm, Dario Amodi, Miles Smith, your
son is on this. I was thinking the same thing.
It's like, I don't know how he did it before
I did. Cordelia Barr, Julie burkat leang Win Fang, Alison Ceesso, Suso,
(31:35):
Thomas Cilar and Wesley's Sun Kissed Quist.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I don't know the innovators. Here's the last list, very quickly.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Snoop Dogg Yes, Nicki Glazer, she's had a great year,
my young song, don't know, Larry Fink, don't know, Kwame
on Yuachi, No, Sandra Diaz, Michaeleen Thomas, John m ch
have a director baby maybe maybe. Yeah, Wendy Freeman, don't
(32:02):
know Josh cost cooff shoot a tip knock stunt to Ronam,
Wait a second, I'm serious Christian Happy Issue mm hmm
is Mahine Eloofi, No, it ain't Sky, Perryman, Tim cattle
(32:24):
Gun and Dick Thompson better known as Richard. And there
you have the worst Times one hundred most wential list
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