May 3, 2025 • 27 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on Six Flags selling off amusement park properties AND Coachella 2026 advance ticket sales & camping packages…PLUS – Mark Rahner has a review of the new Marvel Studios release ‘Thunderbolts*’ in the Rahner Report - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lad with.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and we're still
live on YouTube. Friday is the best day to get
in the YouTube chat. We're gonna be playing name that
movie called Classic a little bit later on pop Quiz
for you guys pop quiz. When I say six Flags,
you may or may not know not s Very Farm
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and also Magic Mountain are both six Flags parks? Which
do you think is more heavily attended? Which do you
think has more foot traffic, more visitors each year? Knots
between which six Flags, Magic Mountain and not Very Farm.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh yeah, I would say knots Mark.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It would be a toss up, But since I'm easily
influenced and suggestible, I too will say not.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I would have thought it it would be Magic Mountain,
but it's actually not very Farm. Not Very Farm averages
four point two million annual visitors, six Flags Magic Mountain
averages three point four million visitors.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I would have been wrong. The reason why we're talking
about this, and yes.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We'll have the YouTube video back in just a second,
one of just making some technical changes. The reason we're
talking about this is because six Flags is selling off
some of its amusement parks. And since both six Flags
Magic Mountain and also not s Very Farm are two
of the highest attended amusement parks, they're safe, they're not
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going anywhere. But six Flags is selling some of their
other parks. And I also want to talk about this
story because I'm familiar with the other two parks that
they are selling, and they're both in the Washington, DC area.
It's six Flags of America Amusement Park and Hurricane Harbor
in Maryland. Both will close after the twenty twenty five season,
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and they're relatively quote close in proximity, and it's strange
to have one company to have two parks that close together.
And I say this, watch this story, watch this because
I think this is an indication of where entertainment is going.
I think they're going to be fewer amusement parks in
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the future because of our concept of entertainment is still changing,
and then more things that we can do without spending
the money I should say corporation spending money to create
these huge amusement parks. The whole idea, like for example, Disneyland,
their new rides are more interactive experiences now than actual
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roller coasters. You don't need that physical space like you
did in previous decades and generations. You get on a
ride like Smuggler's Run, probably the line outside the ride
is physically bigger and takes up more space than the
actual ride itself.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Don't know if we're still going to have amusement parks
in the way that we presently conceive of them. And
let's say twenty years, is Disneyland going anywhere? No, but
probably how we conceive of an amusement park will be
completely different.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think there would be. It'd be more like.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You would have the interactive three D world where you
could put it like when we had Adam Conscios come
in and you have that immersive experience. That's where I
think actual amusement parks are going or just entertainment period Also,
is it like, I don't know, have you been on
the Transformers ride at Universal?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I haven't twall have you?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yep? Is it kind of is that kind of what
Smugglers Run is like.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Similar similar where it's at lots of lots of visual
effects and the ride itself, the car you're sitting in,
it moves, you know, there's.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Some real elements, but I think most of it is
just visual.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's like a simulator, a simulator.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's where I think all these amusement
parks are going because it costs a lot of money
for them to run. Obviously, you need to have a
lot of acreage for the parks.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You can't quickly switch out rides for these amusement parks.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
If you're going to get rid of one roller coaster
and and build another, that's an extremely expensive endeavor as
opposed to the newer type rides, which are more software
than anything.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So do you think that they're just going to be
selling these properties because no one is coming in to
launch and independently owned the park.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, that's out.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I can understand why they would want to sell them.
I look at what amusement parks are going through. The
same thing is what our industry, radio industry is going through.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Think of it this way.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We don't need to have a physical radio station anymore
to provide audio content, either locally or nationally. We can
do this show from basically someone's house. The equipment is
such that the technology is such that we don't need
that physical space that historically we've used with a broadcast transmitter.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Most people that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Look, we had to fight to keep AM radio in
people's cars because technology has moved to a certain point
where we didn't need, as in a functional sense, need
AM radio. It provides a valuable service, but as far
as entertainment offerings, we didn't need AM radio for that.
Now most people have bluetooth, and if you have any
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type of Bluetooth knowledge, you can hook up to any
station anywhere, listen to podcasts, books on tape. The way
we consume entertainment is where I'm going with this is
still changing. And I look at the sale of these
two amusement parks, you kind of see that we're not
necessarily looking for that type of experience in the way
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that we did twenty thirty years ago. Yeah, and you
also you brought to my attention how Disney was going
into the real estate business.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
They are, they are.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
They are moving beyond trying to expand their theme park
and saying we need to go on and have some
interactive living communities where people have a lot of amenities.
We're at home right outside their door, not trying to
go too far anymore, not trying to get into a
parking lot and spend all the money on parking, finding
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a space, going into your park, and just being tired.
And unfortunately this is not singling out any amusement park,
but unfortunately people don't know how to act out in
public anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, it's like like the movies for me, you know,
I don't want to deal with the public. And maybe
we will have amusement parks, but there'll be more about
experiences as opposed to the physical roller coasters and rides
that we're all so familiar with from decades ago. I
don't see think about it. If I were twenty five,
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I would go to six Flags Magic Mountain. I wouldn't
go to Disneyland. I don't even know if you'd want
to go to six Flags. If you're twenty five and
ye walk in, you may. But six Flags last time
I was even there dropping my kids off to go,
it kind of looked like what you described carnival cruises as, Oh,
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it looks like, oh, so this is just where young
people who I don't know if they're here to ride rise.
They look like they're either here trying to holler at
you know, dudes trying to holler at the young ladies
and vice versa, or they're looking like they're up to
no good because the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm like, well, this looks like this is where fights
go down. What has happened to here?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I was gonna say, that's just like another that's like
the last antiquated mall type of work. Yes, where kids
kind of meet up that can't go to a club.
Yet that's kind of still I think a thing. I
think that's a great point because young people are always
going to look for a spot to hang out. And
how we consume entertainment, Like, look, how we consume I
should say, purchase things has changed tremendously over the past
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five ten years.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I did all my shopping and I didn't have to
leave my house.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm talking about like grocery items, talking about clothing items, toiletries,
personal items. Is great, if only because the infrastructure is
set up where I can get it all within twenty
four hours. For the most part, there's no reason for
me to walk into a lot of spots. I have
no reason to go to a mall. I just don't. Similarly,
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I think we're moving in that same direction. If I'm
not too far out in front of this, we're moving
in a similar direction with amusement parks because if six
Flags is selling off these parks, they've already made the
calculation that it's not the money maker that it was
twenty and thirty years ago, and they don't need them
in every market now. Twenty thirty years ago, yeah, they
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were trying to build them. The bigger the roller coaster,
the better, but we're past that now.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And Plus, people only go to destination places to go
to amusement parks. You go to Disneyland here in California
because it's also in California.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's a vacation vacation spot.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You're not trying to go to Kentucky just to go
to an amusement park. That's not what you go there.
You're like, I'm trying to drive through here. I don't
want to stop at at Kentucky, sir whatever. Yeah, No,
Cincinnati in the s No, I don't want to be
in Cincinnati for any reason.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I say Cincinnati because it's like right next to Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yes, I know it's in Ohio, but I'm saying, you know,
when you're in the Midwest, maybe it had some the lure.
I know, we got to go to break when we're
in the Midwest, maybe it had a llure that you
didn't have to go all the way to California to
have that vacation weekend with the amusement park. But you
know it's it is obviously not making the money that
it once did. It's Later with Mo Kelly. Yes, Stephan,
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Mister Kelly, it's Later with mo Kelly. We're live on
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(10:47):
I thought, I'm not mistaken. This a week or so
wee can two days away, but it's only open for
first time callers and mothers. The movies don't have any theme,
but any of our participants or competitors they will be
winning passes to Alamo Draft House Cinema. Did you know
that they've already started selling tickets to Coachella for next year?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Already? I believe it already.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, And Carnacian made a great point during the break
who in the world would buy tickets to Coachella next
year and you have no idea who's going to be performing.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now you can buy.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Tickets for the first weekend or second weekend, but you
don't know who's going to be performing the first or
the second weekend. And they're not cheap, and they're only
offering three day passes, so it's not like you can say,
I just want to pay for Sunday the first week
or the second week Carnecia, you're on on video just
one let you know. That's Carnacia. She runs our chat
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for us. I was just gonna say real quick, it's
funny because I remember when you could just buy one
of the days yep, back then, and now you just can't.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Just have to buy the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Three day general admission pass for the first weekend. You
want to take a guess how much it costs three
day general admission pass for weekend one. It's a different
price for a weekend two, isn't it like five hundred
You're warm? Five ninety nine, oh, five hundred and ninety
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nine dollars three days, and for weekend two it's five
forty nine three day general admission plus shuttle pass. You
want to take a guest for weekend one, I think
I think it's closer to one thousand. No, no, no, no,
this is actually the end between one. So this is
seven hundred and twenty nine dollars. Oh okay for weekend one,
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and six seventy nine for weekend two. Now you can
get your thousand dollars on for the three day vip
pass Weekend one. I'll I'll save you the suspense twelve
hundred and ninety nine dollars and one hundred and thirty
dollars of that it's fees.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What what are fees?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Just fees?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Three day weekend two vip pass is eleven hundred and
ninety nine dollars. You can buy them now, but you
will have no idea who is going to be performing
any day or any weekend. I would hate to think
that I bought tickets for a weekend one and if
there is someone I want to see, they're showing up
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weekend two and you're not going to know that. I
don't know when they announce the artist, but I think
it's not for many months. I mean, there's no way
you could book this far out, all these artists, way,
for all those stages.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
There's no way in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think it's around March, yeah, because it's I know
it's in April, but yeah, I can't. I can't fathom
the thought of buying something that you don't know what
you're going to get. Oh, it gets worse. People can
buy these on layaway. You can put down forty nine
dollars check out and you can make eight equal payments
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of fifty five dollars with no added interests. In other words,
you have to pay it off before the end of
the calendar year. I'm not ever gonna, well, I'm not
gonna pay for a concert, but I'm not gonna buy
tickets on layway, no, sir, no.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
But this is actually a better option for many people
who are trying to do the whole weekend. So you go,
you will say, look, man, I want my my cabana,
I want my tent, or I want you know, a
better space. It may be too much for me to
pay for Right now, I'm gonna go on and take
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care of everything, right I'm gonna put it down payment down,
fifty dollars a month, you know, till the end of
the year.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I'm go and do that.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Here here about this though, you can car camp for
one hundred and sixty dollars and they have a ten
dollars transient occupancy tax.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
What I don't understand, What the hell is that?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Just you out there, just you laying out there in
the in the field with your sleeping bag or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There's a group car camping there are one hundred and
sixty dollars for the weekend. There's preferred car camping four
hundred and twenty dollars, which guarantees a camping spot close
to the festival entrance.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Mind you, this is separate from the tickets.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Just because you have a car camping pass.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It doesn't mean you get in.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It just means that you can park your car on
the grounds somewhat close to the stages. There is a
preferred front row car camping five hundred and twenty dollars.
There's a powered car camping which is six hundred and
twenty dollars. Car camping in a guaranteed spot with a
power outlet and access to upgraded restroom and shower facilities.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oh wow. And there's ready set tent camping. That's me,
That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Six hundred and ninety dollars camping in a preset limited
edition Coachella Souvenir tent.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So you don't even have to bring your own tent. No,
they set it up for you. It's still just a
tenth though, it's a tent. Oh but I got more.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
There's La Campana Camping twenty six hundred dollars for one
queen bed or two twins, and thirty three hundred for
two queens or four twin beds.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, that's been a big lamp, those big ones. Yeah lamping. Okay,
they're still outside, yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
There's the Lake El Dorado Camping Package, which is twenty
three hundred dollars for one person, three thousand for four.
It's a private, secluded, ready to go camping lodge. And
there's Safari Camping ten thousand dollars, the ultimate Coachella glamping
experience with guest passes, golf carts and more.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Buck that buck all of that. Look, this is what
the kids want to do. Though the kids want to
do this and not for ten thousand dollars, trust and
believe they are already lining up to do this. They
are already signing up sight unseen. Because you know one
thing for a fact, there are going to be humongous
acts on these stages no matter what.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Coachella is not like they're gonna say, you know, we've
got Jebedi and the crew up, they're playing Banjos. No,
it's gonna be someone you want to see and and
and people who perform on week in one you perform
on weekend two.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So it's not like you're going to be missing.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's just you get them either week in one when
they're fresh and ready to go, or you get them
weekend two when they've already worked on spending ten thousand dollars.
There can't be any unknown variables. There's always oh, there's
always variables. There are people who don't show, people who
show who aren't supposed to show because they're making up
for someone who didn't show.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And on top of that mode, it's gonna sell out.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oh yes see, that's why I get to go on
vacation every year because I don't waste my money on
bull ish like this.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
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with Mark Ronner's.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Talking to Runner Report, Mark go, I had really been
looking forward to Thunderbolt, and I'm not going to jerk
you around. It does not disappoint. Okay, now you can
listen to something else. Are you still here?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
All right? Here's some trailer to masticate.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
On let Know Beings the Hero. There is no higher calling.
Your sister understood something about that.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I should come back for you. No, that's is the
fairy tale.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I was in high school when the Avengers came.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Kind of strange that it's all over now, no one's
coming to save the day. I think we are.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
We can be the ones that are coming.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Look, you have the wrong people, We have all done
bad things. Look out then where you are.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
The past doesn't go away, so you can either live
with it forever.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Or you can do something about it. I am avoid
Look what you are wished. You can't tell. We're on
the emptiness.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
We can't do this.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No one there is a hero.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
We all have things that we regret, but I have
so many.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
When I look at dear, I don't see your mistics.
That's why they need be too. We can't start hearing alone.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
No one can. And we can find a way together.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
All right, I'm gonna cut that a little short because
we're running short on time here. I am a sucker
for the kind of dirty dozen stories that involve corralling
some bad guys to go on a good guy mission.
And that's essentially what happens here. Bad guys, anti heroes,
self redeemed former bad guys. Here's your roster. You got
Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier. He started as Captain America's pal,
He became a hydro assassin, snapped out of it, and
(20:54):
is now a freshman congressman. In the movie, as it
starts at Sebastian stan Yolena below, a black widow, sister
of the Scarlett Johansson Natasha black widow who got killed
a few movies back. That's Florence Pugh her Russian father,
the Red Guardian. That's David Harber from Stranger Things. He's
the buffoonish gung ho comic relief in the movie. Also,
(21:15):
most things just sound funnier with a Russian or Eastern
European accent. Try it, I promise is good potato. There's
John Walker, the disgraced ex brief Captain America replacement, played
by Wyatt Russell. He's kind of an exasperated a hole
with none of the nobility that Chris Evans is Captain
America radiated, and he seems to know it. Ghost played
(21:36):
by Hannah John Kaman. She was an ant man in
the wast kind of the least memorable of the villain heroes. Here,
she can turn invisible and phase through stuff, but she
levels up a bit and has some good dialogue and
some action moments. There's also a dorky guy named Bob
played by Lewis Pullman, the son of Bill Pullman. He
was in a pretty watchable remake of Stephen king Salem's
Lot recently, and Bob has some issues that are going
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to turn into a major problem for every one. There's
Julia Louis Dreyfus. She returns as Valentina Allegred de Fontaine,
the unscrupulous manipulator from other Marvel stuff. She's running the
CIA now and facing impeachment hearings while she does more
super manipulating, in this case, trying to get all the
loser semi heroes to off each other at first, and
(22:18):
cultivating another super being who's more of a badass than
all of them put together, and who's also really unstable.
You could spend some quality nerd time going down the
list of who you would like to be on the team.
I kind of wish they'd brought in Zmo. Maybe it
was just the scene of him dancing, but I've been
on team Zimo since the Falcon and the Winter Soldier series,
and just to be clear, Zemo dancing righteous dance off
(22:41):
at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy cringe, awful, terrible.
Marvel's been hit and miss especially recently, but Thunderbolt is
no thor Love and Thunder or shang Chi or Wakanda Forever.
It's lots of fun, and it nails this mix of
comedy and action that Marvel does best. The dialogue of
all these misfits who have to work together's funny. The
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action scenes are well done, especially at the start of
the movie with Yolena just plowing through a bunch of
bad guys. They give Winter Soldier a supremely cool entrance
on a motorcycle after things have gotten going. That'll just
make you wish he had a whole movie of his own.
Ghost not so much. The director is Jake Shreer, who's
maybe known for the Netflix mini series Beef to the
extent he's known at all to normal civilians. This is
(23:24):
a huge leveling up for him, and I think he's
going to be around for a while. The movie starts
off with what seemed to me like a really sloppy
bit of plotting. These super losers are initially all sent
separately to a facility to kill each other by Valentina,
which of course they don't do. This is some sub
James Bond foolishness. Let me tie you to this chair
and leave you unsupervised in this room. Nope, let's set
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them all up to fight and assume none of them
will talk at all, say a word. I think the
climactic segment of the movie is going to be polarizing,
and I can't go into much detail about that without
spoiling it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It wraps up.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The theme at the begin of having to do with
Elena the Black widow, finding life meaningless and full of
painful memories of things she's done. But the movie takes
this left turn from the kind of super action you
might expect into some arguably cheesy territory. It's not enough
to ruin the movie, but you might find yourself sitting
there thinking, Hey, did they really just solve that by
(24:21):
doing that?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I can't prove the filmmakers are big Star Trek
five fans, but an element of Thunderbolts is heavily reminiscent
of that, involving all the major characters revisiting traumatic events
from their past that shaped them. You definitely want to
sit through all the credits because there are two extra
scenes you won't want to miss, mostly the one at
the very end of all the credits, which sets up
some other cool stuff I will not spoil. That's all
(24:45):
I'm going to say about Thunderbolts. One more quick bit
of nerd business. You probably never got around to seeing
Hellboy the Crooked Man because almost no one did. It
was the fourth film in the series, with the third
actor playing hell Boy, barely released in theaters, made a
lot bucks on a twenty million dollar budget, essentially dumped
straight to vod I don't know why, and it is
(25:06):
by far the best of the four. I don't understand
why nobody's been talking about it, except that maybe people
avoided it because it seemed like a failure, and that
created kind of a fail spiral of avoidance. It's darker,
much closer to the comics by Mike Manola, stays in
the folk horror monster territory of his stories, and he
co wrote it from one of his comic book stories.
(25:27):
I caught it on Hulu and I've read that it's
doing well there. I will say Hellboy the Crooked Man
is slightly cheaper, looking kind of like a CW show,
and doesn't have the directing flare of the first two
movies by Guerromo del Toro, but don't let that put
you off. It's still better than both of his And
between those two movies, Thunderbolts and hell Boy the Crooked Man,
that's a few solid hours of nerd time that you
(25:50):
could have spent knowing The Touch of a Woman mo
the Touch of a week.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yes, I saw Thunderbolts last night. I don't have as
a review, so I'm not going to step on yours.
I just said I liked it, I didn't love it.
I'll leave it at that. I liked it, but you know,
I liked Captain America Brave New World more so.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think it's kind of a photo finish between the two.
Neither a perfect You heard what my complaints were. But
I had a great time watching it. I was happy
I went. I was happy I saw in a theater
with other humans who were also not having sex.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think that the couple, the nerd couple next to
me might have gone home and gotten it on immediately
though they were very let's just say, demonstrative.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
In the theater. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's why I don't like going to the theater anymore.
There's just too much going on. KFI am Sin's forty
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in the YouTube chat. We're gonna be playing name that
movie called Classic a little bit later on pop Quiz
for you guys pop quiz. When I say six Flags,
you may or may not know not s Very Farm
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and also Magic Mountain are both six Flags parks? Which
do you think is more heavily attended? Which do you
think has more foot traffic, more visitors each year? Knots
between which six Flags, Magic Mountain and not Very Farm.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh yeah, I would say knots Mark.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It would be a toss up, But since I'm easily
influenced and suggestible, I too will say not.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I would have thought it it would be Magic Mountain,
but it's actually not very Farm. Not Very Farm averages
four point two million annual visitors, six Flags Magic Mountain
averages three point four million visitors.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I would have been wrong. The reason why we're talking
about this, and yes.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We'll have the YouTube video back in just a second,
one of just making some technical changes. The reason we're
talking about this is because six Flags is selling off
some of its amusement parks. And since both six Flags
Magic Mountain and also not s Very Farm are two
of the highest attended amusement parks, they're safe, they're not
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going anywhere. But six Flags is selling some of their
other parks. And I also want to talk about this
story because I'm familiar with the other two parks that
they are selling, and they're both in the Washington, DC area.
It's six Flags of America Amusement Park and Hurricane Harbor
in Maryland. Both will close after the twenty twenty five season,
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and they're relatively quote close in proximity, and it's strange
to have one company to have two parks that close together.
And I say this, watch this story, watch this because
I think this is an indication of where entertainment is going.
I think they're going to be fewer amusement parks in
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the future because of our concept of entertainment is still changing,
and then more things that we can do without spending
the money I should say corporation spending money to create
these huge amusement parks. The whole idea, like for example, Disneyland,
their new rides are more interactive experiences now than actual
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roller coasters. You don't need that physical space like you
did in previous decades and generations. You get on a
ride like Smuggler's Run, probably the line outside the ride
is physically bigger and takes up more space than the
actual ride itself.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Don't know if we're still going to have amusement parks
in the way that we presently conceive of them. And
let's say twenty years, is Disneyland going anywhere? No, but
probably how we conceive of an amusement park will be
completely different.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think there would be. It'd be more like.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You would have the interactive three D world where you
could put it like when we had Adam Conscios come
in and you have that immersive experience. That's where I
think actual amusement parks are going or just entertainment period Also,
is it like, I don't know, have you been on
the Transformers ride at Universal?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I haven't twall have you?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yep? Is it kind of is that kind of what
Smugglers Run is like.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Similar similar where it's at lots of lots of visual
effects and the ride itself, the car you're sitting in,
it moves, you know, there's.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Some real elements, but I think most of it is
just visual.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's like a simulator, a simulator.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's where I think all these amusement
parks are going because it costs a lot of money
for them to run. Obviously, you need to have a
lot of acreage for the parks.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You can't quickly switch out rides for these amusement parks.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
If you're going to get rid of one roller coaster
and and build another, that's an extremely expensive endeavor as
opposed to the newer type rides, which are more software
than anything.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So do you think that they're just going to be
selling these properties because no one is coming in to
launch and independently owned the park.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, that's out.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I can understand why they would want to sell them.
I look at what amusement parks are going through. The
same thing is what our industry, radio industry is going through.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Think of it this way.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We don't need to have a physical radio station anymore
to provide audio content, either locally or nationally. We can
do this show from basically someone's house. The equipment is
such that the technology is such that we don't need
that physical space that historically we've used with a broadcast transmitter.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Most people that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Look, we had to fight to keep AM radio in
people's cars because technology has moved to a certain point
where we didn't need, as in a functional sense, need
AM radio. It provides a valuable service, but as far
as entertainment offerings, we didn't need AM radio for that.
Now most people have bluetooth, and if you have any
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type of Bluetooth knowledge, you can hook up to any
station anywhere, listen to podcasts, books on tape. The way
we consume entertainment is where I'm going with this is
still changing. And I look at the sale of these
two amusement parks, you kind of see that we're not
necessarily looking for that type of experience in the way
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that we did twenty thirty years ago. Yeah, and you
also you brought to my attention how Disney was going
into the real estate business.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
They are, they are.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
They are moving beyond trying to expand their theme park
and saying we need to go on and have some
interactive living communities where people have a lot of amenities.
We're at home right outside their door, not trying to
go too far anymore, not trying to get into a
parking lot and spend all the money on parking, finding
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a space, going into your park, and just being tired.
And unfortunately this is not singling out any amusement park,
but unfortunately people don't know how to act out in
public anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, it's like like the movies for me, you know,
I don't want to deal with the public. And maybe
we will have amusement parks, but there'll be more about
experiences as opposed to the physical roller coasters and rides
that we're all so familiar with from decades ago. I
don't see think about it. If I were twenty five,
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I would go to six Flags Magic Mountain. I wouldn't
go to Disneyland. I don't even know if you'd want
to go to six Flags. If you're twenty five and
ye walk in, you may. But six Flags last time
I was even there dropping my kids off to go,
it kind of looked like what you described carnival cruises as, Oh,
(07:37):
it looks like, oh, so this is just where young
people who I don't know if they're here to ride rise.
They look like they're either here trying to holler at
you know, dudes trying to holler at the young ladies
and vice versa, or they're looking like they're up to
no good because the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I'm like, well, this looks like this is where fights
go down. What has happened to here?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I was gonna say, that's just like another that's like
the last antiquated mall type of work. Yes, where kids
kind of meet up that can't go to a club.
Yet that's kind of still I think a thing. I
think that's a great point because young people are always
going to look for a spot to hang out. And
how we consume entertainment, Like, look, how we consume I
should say, purchase things has changed tremendously over the past
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five ten years.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I did all my shopping and I didn't have to
leave my house.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I'm talking about like grocery items, talking about clothing items, toiletries,
personal items. Is great, if only because the infrastructure is
set up where I can get it all within twenty
four hours. For the most part, there's no reason for
me to walk into a lot of spots. I have
no reason to go to a mall. I just don't. Similarly,
(08:45):
I think we're moving in that same direction. If I'm
not too far out in front of this, we're moving
in a similar direction with amusement parks because if six
Flags is selling off these parks, they've already made the
calculation that it's not the money maker that it was
twenty and thirty years ago, and they don't need them
in every market now. Twenty thirty years ago, yeah, they
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were trying to build them. The bigger the roller coaster,
the better, but we're past that now.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And Plus, people only go to destination places to go
to amusement parks. You go to Disneyland here in California
because it's also in California.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's a vacation vacation spot.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You're not trying to go to Kentucky just to go
to an amusement park. That's not what you go there.
You're like, I'm trying to drive through here. I don't
want to stop at at Kentucky, sir whatever. Yeah, No,
Cincinnati in the s No, I don't want to be
in Cincinnati for any reason.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I say Cincinnati because it's like right next to Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yes, I know it's in Ohio, but I'm saying, you know,
when you're in the Midwest, maybe it had some the lure.
I know, we got to go to break when we're
in the Midwest, maybe it had a llure that you
didn't have to go all the way to California to
have that vacation weekend with the amusement park. But you
know it's it is obviously not making the money that
it once did. It's Later with Mo Kelly. Yes, Stephan,
(10:06):
I'm going to break have you. Why is it you're
still here and you haven't gotten our food yet? I
can't KFI A six forty. I don't want to hear
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Speaker 5 (10:17):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (10:25):
KFI.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Mister Kelly, it's Later with mo Kelly. We're live on
YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. Yes, we are playing the
game tonight. Four prizes, name that movie called Classic, and
it's only going to be open for first time callers
and mothers. Of course, Mother's Day is not until the eleventh.
(10:47):
I thought, I'm not mistaken. This a week or so
wee can two days away, but it's only open for
first time callers and mothers. The movies don't have any theme,
but any of our participants or competitors they will be
winning passes to Alamo Draft House Cinema. Did you know
that they've already started selling tickets to Coachella for next year?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Already? I believe it already.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Okay, And Carnacian made a great point during the break
who in the world would buy tickets to Coachella next
year and you have no idea who's going to be performing.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now you can buy.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Tickets for the first weekend or second weekend, but you
don't know who's going to be performing the first or
the second weekend. And they're not cheap, and they're only
offering three day passes, so it's not like you can say,
I just want to pay for Sunday the first week
or the second week Carnecia, you're on on video just
one let you know. That's Carnacia. She runs our chat
(11:49):
for us. I was just gonna say real quick, it's
funny because I remember when you could just buy one
of the days yep, back then, and now you just can't.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Just have to buy the whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Three day general admission pass for the first weekend. You
want to take a guess how much it costs three
day general admission pass for weekend one. It's a different
price for a weekend two, isn't it like five hundred
You're warm? Five ninety nine, oh, five hundred and ninety
(12:21):
nine dollars three days, and for weekend two it's five
forty nine three day general admission plus shuttle pass. You
want to take a guest for weekend one, I think
I think it's closer to one thousand. No, no, no, no,
this is actually the end between one. So this is
seven hundred and twenty nine dollars. Oh okay for weekend one,
(12:43):
and six seventy nine for weekend two. Now you can
get your thousand dollars on for the three day vip
pass Weekend one. I'll I'll save you the suspense twelve
hundred and ninety nine dollars and one hundred and thirty
dollars of that it's fees.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
What what are fees?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Just fees?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Three day weekend two vip pass is eleven hundred and
ninety nine dollars. You can buy them now, but you
will have no idea who is going to be performing
any day or any weekend. I would hate to think
that I bought tickets for a weekend one and if
there is someone I want to see, they're showing up
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weekend two and you're not going to know that. I
don't know when they announce the artist, but I think
it's not for many months. I mean, there's no way
you could book this far out, all these artists, way,
for all those stages.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
There's no way in the world.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think it's around March, yeah, because it's I know
it's in April, but yeah, I can't. I can't fathom
the thought of buying something that you don't know what
you're going to get. Oh, it gets worse. People can
buy these on layaway. You can put down forty nine
dollars check out and you can make eight equal payments
(14:03):
of fifty five dollars with no added interests. In other words,
you have to pay it off before the end of
the calendar year. I'm not ever gonna, well, I'm not
gonna pay for a concert, but I'm not gonna buy
tickets on layway, no, sir, no.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
But this is actually a better option for many people
who are trying to do the whole weekend. So you go,
you will say, look, man, I want my my cabana,
I want my tent, or I want you know, a
better space. It may be too much for me to
pay for Right now, I'm gonna go on and take
(14:39):
care of everything, right I'm gonna put it down payment down,
fifty dollars a month, you know, till the end of
the year.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I'm go and do that.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Here here about this though, you can car camp for
one hundred and sixty dollars and they have a ten
dollars transient occupancy tax.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
What I don't understand, What the hell is that?
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Just you out there, just you laying out there in
the in the field with your sleeping bag or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
There's a group car camping there are one hundred and
sixty dollars for the weekend. There's preferred car camping four
hundred and twenty dollars, which guarantees a camping spot close
to the festival entrance.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Mind you, this is separate from the tickets.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Just because you have a car camping pass.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
It doesn't mean you get in.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It just means that you can park your car on
the grounds somewhat close to the stages. There is a
preferred front row car camping five hundred and twenty dollars.
There's a powered car camping which is six hundred and
twenty dollars. Car camping in a guaranteed spot with a
power outlet and access to upgraded restroom and shower facilities.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Oh wow. And there's ready set tent camping. That's me,
That's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Six hundred and ninety dollars camping in a preset limited
edition Coachella Souvenir tent.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So you don't even have to bring your own tent. No,
they set it up for you. It's still just a
tenth though, it's a tent. Oh but I got more.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
There's La Campana Camping twenty six hundred dollars for one
queen bed or two twins, and thirty three hundred for
two queens or four twin beds.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, that's been a big lamp, those big ones. Yeah lamping. Okay,
they're still outside, yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
There's the Lake El Dorado Camping Package, which is twenty
three hundred dollars for one person, three thousand for four.
It's a private, secluded, ready to go camping lodge. And
there's Safari Camping ten thousand dollars, the ultimate Coachella glamping
experience with guest passes, golf carts and more.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Buck that buck all of that. Look, this is what
the kids want to do. Though the kids want to
do this and not for ten thousand dollars, trust and
believe they are already lining up to do this. They
are already signing up sight unseen. Because you know one
thing for a fact, there are going to be humongous
acts on these stages no matter what.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Coachella is not like they're gonna say, you know, we've
got Jebedi and the crew up, they're playing Banjos. No,
it's gonna be someone you want to see and and
and people who perform on week in one you perform
on weekend two.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So it's not like you're going to be missing.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It's just you get them either week in one when
they're fresh and ready to go, or you get them
weekend two when they've already worked on spending ten thousand dollars.
There can't be any unknown variables. There's always oh, there's
always variables. There are people who don't show, people who
show who aren't supposed to show because they're making up
for someone who didn't show.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
And on top of that mode, it's gonna sell out.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Oh yes see, that's why I get to go on
vacation every year because I don't waste my money on
bull ish like this.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It's Later with Mokeller.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
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Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture. Ron and Report
with Mark Ronner's.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Talking to Runner Report, Mark go, I had really been
looking forward to Thunderbolt, and I'm not going to jerk
you around. It does not disappoint. Okay, now you can
listen to something else. Are you still here?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
All right? Here's some trailer to masticate.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
On let Know Beings the Hero. There is no higher calling.
Your sister understood something about that.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I should come back for you. No, that's is the
fairy tale.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
I was in high school when the Avengers came.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Kind of strange that it's all over now, no one's
coming to save the day. I think we are.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
We can be the ones that are coming.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Look, you have the wrong people, We have all done
bad things. Look out then where you are.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
The past doesn't go away, so you can either live
with it forever.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Or you can do something about it. I am avoid
Look what you are wished. You can't tell. We're on
the emptiness.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
We can't do this.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No one there is a hero.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
We all have things that we regret, but I have
so many.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
When I look at dear, I don't see your mistics.
That's why they need be too. We can't start hearing alone.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
No one can. And we can find a way together.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
All right, I'm gonna cut that a little short because
we're running short on time here. I am a sucker
for the kind of dirty dozen stories that involve corralling
some bad guys to go on a good guy mission.
And that's essentially what happens here. Bad guys, anti heroes,
self redeemed former bad guys. Here's your roster. You got
Bucky Barnes, the Winter Soldier. He started as Captain America's pal,
He became a hydro assassin, snapped out of it, and
(20:54):
is now a freshman congressman. In the movie, as it
starts at Sebastian stan Yolena below, a black widow, sister
of the Scarlett Johansson Natasha black widow who got killed
a few movies back. That's Florence Pugh her Russian father,
the Red Guardian. That's David Harber from Stranger Things. He's
the buffoonish gung ho comic relief in the movie. Also,
(21:15):
most things just sound funnier with a Russian or Eastern
European accent. Try it, I promise is good potato. There's
John Walker, the disgraced ex brief Captain America replacement, played
by Wyatt Russell. He's kind of an exasperated a hole
with none of the nobility that Chris Evans is Captain
America radiated, and he seems to know it. Ghost played
(21:36):
by Hannah John Kaman. She was an ant man in
the wast kind of the least memorable of the villain heroes. Here,
she can turn invisible and phase through stuff, but she
levels up a bit and has some good dialogue and
some action moments. There's also a dorky guy named Bob
played by Lewis Pullman, the son of Bill Pullman. He
was in a pretty watchable remake of Stephen king Salem's
Lot recently, and Bob has some issues that are going
(21:58):
to turn into a major problem for every one. There's
Julia Louis Dreyfus. She returns as Valentina Allegred de Fontaine,
the unscrupulous manipulator from other Marvel stuff. She's running the
CIA now and facing impeachment hearings while she does more
super manipulating, in this case, trying to get all the
loser semi heroes to off each other at first, and
(22:18):
cultivating another super being who's more of a badass than
all of them put together, and who's also really unstable.
You could spend some quality nerd time going down the
list of who you would like to be on the team.
I kind of wish they'd brought in Zmo. Maybe it
was just the scene of him dancing, but I've been
on team Zimo since the Falcon and the Winter Soldier series,
and just to be clear, Zemo dancing righteous dance off
(22:41):
at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy cringe, awful, terrible.
Marvel's been hit and miss especially recently, but Thunderbolt is
no thor Love and Thunder or shang Chi or Wakanda Forever.
It's lots of fun, and it nails this mix of
comedy and action that Marvel does best. The dialogue of
all these misfits who have to work together's funny. The
(23:02):
action scenes are well done, especially at the start of
the movie with Yolena just plowing through a bunch of
bad guys. They give Winter Soldier a supremely cool entrance
on a motorcycle after things have gotten going. That'll just
make you wish he had a whole movie of his own.
Ghost not so much. The director is Jake Shreer, who's
maybe known for the Netflix mini series Beef to the
extent he's known at all to normal civilians. This is
(23:24):
a huge leveling up for him, and I think he's
going to be around for a while. The movie starts
off with what seemed to me like a really sloppy
bit of plotting. These super losers are initially all sent
separately to a facility to kill each other by Valentina,
which of course they don't do. This is some sub
James Bond foolishness. Let me tie you to this chair
and leave you unsupervised in this room. Nope, let's set
(23:47):
them all up to fight and assume none of them
will talk at all, say a word. I think the
climactic segment of the movie is going to be polarizing,
and I can't go into much detail about that without
spoiling it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It wraps up.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
The theme at the begin of having to do with
Elena the Black widow, finding life meaningless and full of
painful memories of things she's done. But the movie takes
this left turn from the kind of super action you
might expect into some arguably cheesy territory. It's not enough
to ruin the movie, but you might find yourself sitting
there thinking, Hey, did they really just solve that by
(24:21):
doing that?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I can't prove the filmmakers are big Star Trek
five fans, but an element of Thunderbolts is heavily reminiscent
of that, involving all the major characters revisiting traumatic events
from their past that shaped them. You definitely want to
sit through all the credits because there are two extra
scenes you won't want to miss, mostly the one at
the very end of all the credits, which sets up
some other cool stuff I will not spoil. That's all
(24:45):
I'm going to say about Thunderbolts. One more quick bit
of nerd business. You probably never got around to seeing
Hellboy the Crooked Man because almost no one did. It
was the fourth film in the series, with the third
actor playing hell Boy, barely released in theaters, made a
lot bucks on a twenty million dollar budget, essentially dumped
straight to vod I don't know why, and it is
(25:06):
by far the best of the four. I don't understand
why nobody's been talking about it, except that maybe people
avoided it because it seemed like a failure, and that
created kind of a fail spiral of avoidance. It's darker,
much closer to the comics by Mike Manola, stays in
the folk horror monster territory of his stories, and he
co wrote it from one of his comic book stories.
(25:27):
I caught it on Hulu and I've read that it's
doing well there. I will say Hellboy the Crooked Man
is slightly cheaper, looking kind of like a CW show,
and doesn't have the directing flare of the first two
movies by Guerromo del Toro, but don't let that put
you off. It's still better than both of his And
between those two movies, Thunderbolts and hell Boy the Crooked Man,
that's a few solid hours of nerd time that you
(25:50):
could have spent knowing The Touch of a Woman mo
the Touch of a week.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yes, I saw Thunderbolts last night. I don't have as
a review, so I'm not going to step on yours.
I just said I liked it, I didn't love it.
I'll leave it at that. I liked it, but you know,
I liked Captain America Brave New World more so.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think it's kind of a photo finish between the two.
Neither a perfect You heard what my complaints were. But
I had a great time watching it. I was happy
I went. I was happy I saw in a theater
with other humans who were also not having sex.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I think that the couple, the nerd couple next to
me might have gone home and gotten it on immediately
though they were very let's just say, demonstrative.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
In the theater. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's why I don't like going to the theater anymore.
There's just too much going on. KFI am Sin's forty
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!