January 29, 2025 • 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth conversation with Author, Inspirational Speaker Carl S. McNair regarding the “Space Shuttle ‘Challenger’ 39th Commemoration” and continuing the legacy of younger brother, Astronaut Ronald E. McNair, who perished on ‘Challenger STS-51l’…PLUS – A look at the New York FBI “nuclear incident drill” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oho winmo Kelly KFI AM six forty y is later
with Moe Kelly were Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
In nineteen seventy eight, doctor Ronald McNair was selected as
one of thirty five applicants from a pool of ten
thousand for the NASA Astronaut Program. McNair flew as a
mission specialist on STS forty one B, a board Space
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Shuttle Challenger, back on February third through February eleventh, nineteen
eighty four, becoming the second African American to fly in space.
But on January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, thirty nine
years ago. Today, McNair Paris is part of the Challenger crew.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Nine ers ken nine eight seven six. We have main
engines start four three two one and liftoff liftoff of
the twenty fifth Face Shuttle.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Mission and it as clear as the.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Tower Roger Challenger.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
ConTroll program confirmed. Challenger now heading down range engines beginning
throttling down now at ninety four percent normal throttles for
most of the plant one hundred and four percent. We
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will throttle down to sixty five percent shortly one minute
fifteen seconds. Flocidy twenty nine hundred feet per second altitude
nine nautical mouths down range, just at seven naugle miles.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It looks like a couple of the solid rocket boosters
blew away from the side of the shuttle in an explosion.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Controllers here looking very carefully at the situation. Obviously a
major malfunction.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Have no downey right now. His older brother, Carl McNair,
founder of McNair Achievement Programs, author and STEM education consultant,
joins me now on the show as we pay remembrance
to him and the rest of the Challenger crew. Carl,
my friend. Great to talk to you again. How have
you been.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh, I'm doing very well. Brother Mo. Did I call
you brother Moe?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, you can't because we are brothers, that's right. Aside
from your brother, your younger brother's exploits, his academic exploits,
which included a PhD in physics from MIT. Ronald McNair
was a saxophonist, a jazz enthusiast. He was a man
of Omega Sci Fi fraternity like you and me. He
was a fifth degree black belt in karate. When I
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was a young teenager, I wanted to be Ronald McNair.
But who was your brother beyond what most often is
publicly shared.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Well, Ron was like any of So many people think
he was like a bookworm, but Ron was. As we
were growing up, he was on the football team and
the baseball team, ran track and just like any other kid.
But he had a satiable theft for knowledge. That was
Ron in the nutshell.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
When he was doing his thing being a baseball diamond
or track field or any of his other exploits, did
you see something in him which said he's not going
to choose any of that. He's going to be a scientist.
He is going to do something in the stem field.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yes, not to mention that he was very good at
science and math, and as he was very good at
the sports and what have you. But I think this
was this particular time when he had a laccident at
home where he cast his kneecap, and instead of going
through the pain and agony of having gassed your your
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your kneecap, he started showing me the ligaments and the
us I knew something was strange about me.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
What was home like for you and your family? Were
your parents really tough on you as far as school?
Did they encourage you to pursue certain careers. What was
life like growing up in the McNair household.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Well, my mother only went to the eleventh grade. Rather more,
my father only went to the eighth grade, and my
mother only went to eleventh grade because they would allow
black people to go past the eleventh grade in this
segregated town in South Carolina. But she did find a
way to go on to school. And we saw her
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the nasty throughout our lives and all for education, and
I think that inspired us. My dad he would say, hey, look,
whatever you want to do, just be a just do it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, if you're going to be a bomb, be a
good bomb. That was his advice.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Do you remember when or was there a singular moment
when doctor Minair maybe came to you and said, Carl,
I have this dream of becoming an astronaut or I'm
going to apply for the NASA astronaut program. Do you
remember that moment. Was there a moment like that?
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Well, there was a like that, and I'll tell you
about that moment, but I'll.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Tell you how he got to that point.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
Ron.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I remember, Ron had finished his education at A and
T where he and I started at the same time.
That's North Carolina, A and T in Greensboro, North Carolina.
And it was through A and T where he got
the opportunities to spend a summer at MIT and thereby
having a look at Mit, Mit had to look at him,
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and he knew the professors, and that made it I
won't say easier, but sometimes when you made relationships and
connections in your network, it makes it a little easier.
But it wasn't before he had some self doubts early
on why he was at A and C whether he
could compete, because he ran into these guys who was
in the physics program, and they came from the school
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Swamp North. They had all of these great math and
science courses. In fact, they had physics, thermodynamics and classical
mechanics and had modern physics. And Ron only had a
class of physics one oh one taught by a teacher
who never saw a book of physics. So he came
in at a disadvantage, almost quit but to become a
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music major. But his advisor, which you could only find,
we'd like to think that way, but usually at HPCUS
you'll find folks who will make certain that you get
what you need. She encouraged him to go try physics.
That was the confidence that he needed. He went on
and try try physics, and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was a bitter, cold, but sparkling clear morning at
Cape canaveral Man and here at the last seconds of
the countdown.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Three two one and lift off, left off solve the
twenty fifth base Shuttle mission and it as clear.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
As the tower.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
All the communications between the shuttle and mission control indicated
everything was going fine. There was a sense of relief
that the much delayed flight was finally underway.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Engines had sixty five percent, three engines are running normally,
three good fuel deals, three good APUs engines throttling up,
three engines and owin one hundred and four percent challenger
goh it throttle up.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It happened just over one minute into flight.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
One minute fifteen seconds, flanty twenty nine hundred and pet
per second, altitude nine augo milestown, range distance seven aug.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
A mile, our mission control silence. Then the bland chilling report.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
We have a report from the flight dynamics officer that
the vehicle has exploded. Flight director confirms that we are
looking at checking with the recovery forces to see what
can be done at this point.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
A search effort couldn't begin for some fifteen minutes after
this debris, they said, just kept raining.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
From the sky.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The head of the Space Shuttle program had no explanations,
just sorrow at the tragedy.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
At eleven forty am this morning, Space program experience our
national tragedy with the explosion of the Space Shuttle Challenger.
Approximately a minute and a half, I have to launch
from here at the Kennedy Space Center.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Computer enhanced video shows the explosion in detail. What explosion
appears to happen at the rear of the spacecraft, around
the main engines, perhaps in one of the two solid
rocket boosters. Then up last, higher up, the shuttle was
instantly a blazing fireball. NASA has appointed a committee of
top engineers and scientists to investigate the catastrophe. Orders have
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been issued to impound all records concerning the flight, down
to the personal notes of all the flight controllers. Dan Molina,
NBC News at the Johnson Space Center, Houston.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
On the line right now is Carl McNair, the older
brother of doctor Ronald McNair, who perished thirty nine years
ago today on Challenger fifty one l if you old
enough to remember, it changed history. We'll have more with
Carl McNair in just a moment.
Speaker 9 (09:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I'm right in the middle of a very special conversation.
On this day, thirty nine years ago STS fifty one
l Space Shuttle Challenger exploded. If you old enough like
me to remember, it changed history. Right now on the
line with me is Carl McNair, the older brother of
doctor Ronald McNair, who perished along with six other astronauts
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on this day thirty nine years ago. And Carl, I
think I remember, and I know you remember the Space
Shuttle program. It was after the Apollo missions. The mandate,
the direction of the space program was just different. What
was your brother's aspiration beyond the Space Shuttle program? Did
he want to go, maybe one day, back to the
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move Where did he think his astronaut career would take him?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Well, all along Ronald wanted to be a college professor.
But when the opportunity came to apply to NASA, he
knew there was a latent desire to become an astronaut.
But remember now, during the dark times of the Gemini
and Apollo. You had to be military, you had to
be a fighter pilot, you had to be twenty twenty visions.
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You didn't you couldn't be black. And of course he
certainly didn't fit the requirement of being a fighter pilot
because he never looked.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Playing, never was in the military.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
So when the Space Shuttle program came around, this was
NASA's opportunity to have a more diverse space program. So
you had women, you had other ethnicities like white, et cetera.
And that's when he took advantage of that. That's how
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he took advantage of it. And there was always this
laten designs. I said, I think Star Trek that was
a big plus for a lot of young people to
consider science degrees or work in the area of science
or stam if you will. And the prom was motivated
Prome by one person more so than anyone else, and
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that was Lieutenant Yohora played by Michelle Nichols on Star Trek.
Let me tell you, folks will go back that time
to understand that was hour halle Berry doing those ladies.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Carl. Let me ask you this because I have to
ask you within the context of what's going on today.
The whole idea of DEI diversity equity inclusion is controversial
for lack of a better description, and it's been met
with a lot of resistance. But you're telling me, if
not for the public calls to diversify NASA, we would
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not have heard about doctor Ronald McNair or his ex
world or his contributions within NASA. Is that correct?
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Absolutely? And probably for women as well. They didn't have
any women and it was the New Space Program where
they had decided to diversify. I might add that was
under the administration Jimmy Carter, President Jimmy Carter's administration, So
that kind of kind of fits, doesn't it, And so
that's how that came about.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It would be very challenging today. I thought about this recently.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Obviously, that would being that I posted a picture of
the Space Shuttle Challenger fifty one L crew and I
thought to myself, would this have been possible today?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Would have been possible?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Since we're there, let's talk about it now directly. I
remember where I was when I got the news that
the Challenger Space Shuttle fifty one L had exploded shortly
after takeoff thirty nine years ago this week, I was
a junior in high school. I was walking in between
Spanish and ap English classes. I remember the cloud around
the very public investigation afterward. You know, all this is
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just like seared in my memory. There have been plenty
of documentaries and movies over the years, and Karl McNair,
I've known you for some twenty years and I've never
asked you, but I'm asking you now. Have we, the
general public, or at least the families, gotten the full
truth surrounding Challenger?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Quite frankly, we have no real idea.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
We know with some of the reports, We've seen some
documentaries and found out more, But the answer is no.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
How do you look upon that some thirty nine years later.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well, I'm very actor, quite frankly, as somebody said, whatever
they tell me, it's not going to bring Ron back,
not going to bring in aid of the crew back.
So I focus on the positive. As you well know,
we have a lot of mcneir's scholars program.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
We have over five.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Thousand mcnear's scholars program, mcnehir's scholars in the program right now.
We've seen go on to do remarkable things in the
areas of science, technology, engineering, math, as well as other
profession as well. You know, for instance, Congresswoman Natima Williams
from Georgia, she's a McNair scholar, and there's others who
have achieved great things who are mcneir's scholars.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And it had it not been for.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
The program, as I hear her from a person as
early as today, and had not been for that program,
they never would.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Have achieved the level of success that they have.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
And the whole idea is inspired them be going to
graduate school ultimately to get a PhD or some other
doctor degree and return and be that person in front
of the classroom that many of them found themselves absent of.
So that's the essence of the program.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Carlbing there, My time is running short with you, but
I know earlier this evening and I appreciate you coming
on on such short notice. But earlier this evening there
was a candle light visual for doctor McNair as doctor
Ronald E. McNair Life History Memorial Park in Lake City,
South Carolina, where he was born. This is an annual
event to keep his memory alive. Along those lines, what
do you hear from the young people who may not
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have any memory of him? But are now first learning
about him.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Well, we've found over the years. So the first thing
young people must do be exposed to possibilities out there.
As you occurred before. You can't be what you can't see,
and so we showed them, not only the professionals who
are in those areas as well. The Cantillot Visuals is
the annual annual event, if you will, to remember in
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our small town, Lake City, South Carolina, when we were
coming along, it was no more than population what two thousand,
now maybe it's around eight if.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
He fludge it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
And people need to remember that here was a country
bar from Lake City, South Carolina. As I mentioned, population
two thousand and segregated South Carolina was almost thrown out
the library. But he came out of this environment went
on to become an astronaut. And it was because of
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the upbringing the school teachers at the time that we had.
And we remember, we remember the school teachers as well,
if it had not been for them to inspire Ron
to go to the Sower program at Virginia Union, which
is another HBCU, and that's when he got the idea
from a professor that he could go all the way
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to the PhD. Didn't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
But he was going to receive a PhD out there
learning that that was the highest academic level that you
could achieve.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
So that was the spark right there that carried him
on and some great advisors.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And he didn't get there by himself.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I want anybody to think that he just you know,
got to that level by himself, but people along the line.
I called him guarding an agents to looking over shielder
and make certain it takes the right direction.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He is Carl McNair, founder of McNair Achievement Program, author
and STEM Education consultant. He, like me and doctor Ronald McNair,
are men of Omega Sci Fi Fraternity Incorporated. Ral McNair,
I said it early, I'll stay it again. I've known
you for about twenty years. I've appreciated our dialogues off
air about your brother and your brother's achievements, and I
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want to celebrate you and yours as well. Thank you
for coming on this show tonight, and let's keep Ronald
McNair's memory alive.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Thank you, brother. Kelly.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's later with Moe Kelly k IF. I am six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You've been hearing the updates. We are excited here. Fire
Aid is almost here. We were talking about this just
off air before the show about how much we are
excited by not only the fact we had the fire coverage,
but there's something good which is going to come out
of it where we as a community can come together
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and make sure that these individuals who've lost their homes,
these individuals who don't know where to turn next, may
have lost their businesses, can get, at least on a
small level, some help. And we told you about fire
Aid before it was even going to be called fire Aid,
before they even had any artists who were signed up.
But we told you about the process. Here's what's going
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to happen, and you'll see these big names rolling in
and now the big names are here for fire Aid,
which is going to be on Thursday, January thirtieth at
both six pm at seven thirty pm between two different venues,
the Kia Form and the Into It Dome. And let's
say you can't get there in person, you can watch
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it on Max. You can watch it on Amazon Prime Video,
Direct Stream, Apple TV, Hulu, Disney Plus, Direct Tv, Peacock,
Paramount Plus, NBC News Now, Netflix to Doom, YouTube Tv,
Amazon Music, you can listen Apple Music, you can listen Spotify, Serious, XM, iHeartRadio,
of course, SoundCloud, Amazon Live, TikTok FanDuel. It goes on
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and on and on. What about tickets, Well, I'm glad
you asked. The tickets are available right now and you
can get them at ticketmaster dot com. What time is
the concert? Tell you again? Starts at six o'clock at
the ki of Forum. The doors open at five. The
Into a Dome will begin at seven point thirty. Doors
also open at five pm. And if you live in
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and around Inglewood like me, well you're just sol. Don't
try to drive in that area if you don't actually
have to be in that area. Well, what if you
want to watch both concerts, Well you probably won't want
to go to the venue if you want to see
both concerts. But in an effort to ensure people can
at least experience as much of the fire Aid benefit
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show as possible, fans who buy tickets four Into a
Dome will be able to view the key of Form
show when it begins on screens inside the into a Dome. Conversely,
when the Key of Forms show ends, fans inside will
be able to view the acts at Into a Dome
on screens at the KYA Form until the end of
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the event. If you're wondering how much ticket's gonna cost, well,
they start at ninety nine dollars. But here's the good news.
One hundred percent of ticket purchases go to benefit fire
aid relief efforts with all venue and ticketing service fees way,
so the price you see is the price you will
actually pay, and one hundred percent of that ticket goes
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to benefit fire aid relief efforts. Now, you will have
the opportunity to go either show, but you probably won't
be able to go to both shows. In other words,
tickets are only valid for the venue that you select,
So be very clear are you buying tickets for Kia
Forum or into a Dome Because it will not let you.
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Even though they're right down the street from each other,
You're not gonna be able to drive back and forth.
Maybe spend an hour one venue then go over to
the other venue. No, they will have screens inside, but
you will not be allowed entrance or access to both venues.
And the question I usually get is you know, can
I watch it? Yes, some of us will just be
watching it. I know we may have it on the
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screens and here inside the studio at KFI. Obviously we
can't listen to it per se, but we can watch
what's going on. But you you can watch it through
all those devices and streaming apps I told you about.
You can listen to any of the FM stations here
at iHeartMedia LA. They'll all be broadcasting the concert. And
it's going to be a wonderful, wonderful event. And I
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haven't gone over yet. Let me go over it one
more time about some of the acts which are going
to be performing. This is just some of the acts.
I expect some last minute late announcements about huge, huge performers,
but right now we know at the end to it Dome,
you're going to have Billie Eilish Abrams little baby shout
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out to Mark Runner. That's what you had me at
the infant Mark you have always been a little Baby fan.
So it's my job to give credit where credit is due.
Lady Gaga, Olivia Rodrigo, Katy Perry, and if that wasn't
good enough, Stevie Wonder, the Stevie Wonder, Tate mccraig, Staying
and Moore. In other words, they have other artists which
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they will be announcing in the next twenty four hours
at the key of form. Let's say I love into
a Dome, but I'm more interested in going to the
Kia form. Well, here's what's waiting for you a lot.
It's more Set Green Day, Dave Matthews and John Mayer,
Red Hot Chili Peppers, No Doubt, Pink, and some other
surprise guests that they will be announcing, and you can
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listen to all this on the iHeartRadio app. Of course,
you can listen to it on our terrestrial radio stations.
I told you about our FM radio stations. I'm talking
about my FM, or Real ninety two to three, or
Co's one of three point five, KISSFM one on two
point seven. There's so many ways that you can enjoy,
but more importantly, participate in this tremendous event for the
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benefit for victims of these fires. We've been telling you
about that, We've been covering them for the better part
of two and a half weeks, and now we can
move from the crisis portion to the recovery portion. And
we have Nick Pouliochini in the studio who knows a
little bit about music. We have twallets Sharpen the studio
knows a little bit about music, and I know just
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a little bit about music. And I can tell you
it's rare, and it's good that it's rare given the circumstances.
It's rare you have this much talent together under one roof,
much less two roofs.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Well, yeah, And I think it's gonna be really interesting
to see exactly what happens and what this is because
the last time we did this was we had like
Farm Aid and we've had all these different Aid concerts
throughout time. But I'm really curious to see how this
is going to play out, because I mean, you've got
two venues, You've got two completely different setups.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
What is it going to be?
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Is it going to be something akin to a telethon
like we've been used to kind of down that farm
made path?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Is just gonna be straight music? Like what exactly is
the breakdown going to be? Here's something that I noticed
that is really different and significant. You talked about or
mentioned Live Aid, Farm Aid that was in a stadium, right,
this is much more intimate, exact when you're in an
arena of let's say, nineteen to twenty thousand people as
opposed to eighty ninety thousand people, which as a concert
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goer is far more attractive for me. All this talent
and I'll say, a relatively small arena, and you got
other big names which are coming between now and Thursday. Lookout. Oh,
I agree.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I'm hoping to see some really, really, really unique acoustic performances.
See that's a really really personal intimate performance.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
How is it you know that? And why would you
expect that?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Because from doing shows like this, where you have artists
who are coming out who are not doing their normal
concerts setup. Whenever I've been involved in producing a show like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This, you produce shows like this, I have I've had
quite a history.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Some of these artists as a matter as a matter
of fact, lots of these artists.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Oh how about lots of these artists.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
When you have shows like this a lot of times
and artists will come out with their signature musician team.
They will have a small arrangement team, maybe a keyboard player,
guitar upright, bass, you know, just the things that they
need to just really knock out a show real fast,
unless they're going to perform the track. Alah, maybe a
little baby may be perform to track to kind of
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help things move along. But with artists like Billy Eilish
and the Likes and even Stevie Wonder, I will just
come out and say, hey, you know what, in order
to make the show flow, I'm gonna come out and
do my big hit. I'm gonna do another song which
I will dedicate directly to the victims of the wildfire.
You know, say God bless you good night. And that
is what we will see a lot of because this
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is a lot of acts to pack into one night
on a Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The show isn't going on all night long, No it isn't.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
So this is these are also union houses that have
to What does that mean? They have to shut down
at a certain time. Light's got to go on otherwise.
And I know, God bless you Steve Walmer for picking
up the tab. But but but there does come a
limit and you will have to say light's got to
go on at eleven.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
This is a show. As a performer, you want to
perform early. You definitely want to perform early because people
are going to invariably take more time than they're supposed to.
There's gonna be some logistical issues getting people on and
off stage, maybe some technical difficulties, and if you're let's
say the ninth or tenth act, and it's getting late
in the evening, you may be asked to cut a
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song from your set evening.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
I mean, like, like anyone going, I want to make
sure you're going knowing that these are not contraport just
if they come out and do a song, if they donate,
because remember, these arts are donating their time. These are
arts who are getting paid millions upon millions of dollars
to go on tour. I want you to know if
they come out and they are able to donate a
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song or two, then cheer them on like it is
the best thing you've ever seen, because they are donating
their time to quite possibly one of the most worthy
causes of this century, I would say. And so I
solution you and shout out to the technical crew, behind
the scenes crew, back house staging everyone ahead of time,
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because I know it is going to be hectic.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And let me put it in just the consumer's terms.
For ninety nine dollars, you would not be able to
see one of these artists, much less thirteen of them.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Trust My daughter's trying to get tickets to see Billie
Eilish London.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Their ticket is five hundred dollars.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
And I'm going to say something they've already looked because
we kind of broke the news about this concert when
it came out. We did those not need like I
was literally we was literally here sitting in this chair.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Was the first one, was the first Later with Kelly.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Was the very first show in Los Angeles to talk
about it, long before you heard any promos. No, I
agree with you. The here's the challenge though, And remember
I'm saying this not in a cynical way, because every
single penny is going to an incredibly important, you know,
situation to assist with. But those ninety nine dollars tickets
are long gone.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So okay, let's say the next tier up. You're still
teen hundred dollars. Okay, it's the next tier up? Can
if I am six forty we live everywhere in the iheartrad.
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And coming up at the top of the hour. I'm
always so glad to see my brother in study with us,
Nick Poliochini. It's our new segment, What's Up with Nick?
What's up? Comma with Nick? Not what's up with just
like later with Mokelly. Right, yes, because if you say
Landward Kelly, this sounds nigga now when you say what's
up with Nick?
Speaker 10 (29:04):
But really well with the show that started here this
weekend came Yeah, there you go, so all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
What do you have coming up at the top of
the hour.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
I'm excited because it has been I don't know. First
of all, I'd like to say, welcome to Tuesday, the
forty ninth of February. Is what it feels like without
a joke in my you know, just saying that. But
I want to talk about what's going on in the Southland.
We've already covered a lot here. We've got fire aid
coming up, We've got so much else. But also tomorrow,
a good portion of not just southern California, especially in
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Orange County, Garden Grove, Westminster, Santa Ana, we'll be celebrating
Lunar New Year, and so that's what we're going to
preview and We're going to talk about a lot of
things that you can do and enjoy in and around
the south Land, give you a little bit of history
and background on Lunar New Year as well. And I
want to talk about the biggest Vietnamese community outside of
Vietnam is in Orange County. We've talked about it here
in KFI many times.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Before, and I didn't know that until you told me
about this.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
This was like right, But that's it's wild to think
that it's been something that you know, is I mean,
you could say it's something that we are very proud
of here in southern California. Is the cultural diversity that
we have, and not just you know, here in Los
Angeles County, but La County, Riverside County, Sanmerdandino Ventura.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 10 (30:15):
You know, I'm just saying it's we have such a
diverse group of people who come together. And a lot
of the businesses that I've been talking to have been
raising money as well for the fires, the you know,
for the Eaten fire, for Alsadena, for the Palasades fire,
So you know it'll be something different.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, I think that's a function of a byproduct of
everybody knows somebody, yes, who was impacted by these fires.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
You're correct, and I think like we've talked about here
on Later but you you and Toualla specifically talking about
the Dina like talking about the community that is or
you know, is there still a lot of these communities
have been affected and they know people and being of
an international and a different cultural existence and experience here
in southern California, some of them are still pretty quiet
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and they like to keep themselves, but they've been doing
just as much behind the scenes as much as they
can to help support but not just their community, but
the community at large.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So we'll talk about that a little bit as well.
And you gotta give us an update on what you're
doing personally.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
I'll be happy to because lord knows, since begin in December,
I've been out of work. So let's be real and
genuine and audience. That's how we keep it here on
Later but real, No, but I think that's it. It's
just like so many of you who are trying to
figure out what's next here in twenty twenty five, That's
what I'm doing and pound the pavement and seeing what
there is out there. You can still see me on
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social media, Nick pollio'channi this week with Nick and many
other brands fifteen minute footy and that'll be what we'll
be diilding into a little bit here with eighty five
Degrees Bakery, which uh oh yeah, which I was gonna say,
you've thoroughly enjoyed, so you can tell about business. I
was gonna say, you tell about business. So what's funny
is it is for those of you who will participate
in watching your calories coming in the New Year. Some
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of the stuff is keto friendly, some of it's kind
of paleo, so you know, I got you back.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, it's not completely sugar laden. No it's not.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
It's not, but it's delicious and it has really so
many and we're also going to try something that is
very different. This is specific for Lunar New Year. Golden
yolk red bean pastry. Say that again, slower golden yolk.
You know that the eggs that we keep talking about prices, Yeah,
that red bean pastry. So this is going to be
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one of the things that a lot, well, especially in Taiwan,
but a lot of different places have different things that
they do to celebrate Lunar New Year. So we're going
to delve a little bit deeper into that, but yeah,
that's pretty much what I've been up to is trying
to figure out what's next. And I think that's what
a lot of us are doing right now, is kind
of figuring out what's next. It's the new year. We
always are trying to figure out what's next and what's
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new for each of us. And some people subscribe to resolutions.
I just need a job, So if that's my resolution,
is finding a job and finding the next thing. But
I think the thing that I have done the most
between last year being let go by iHeart and then
also you know, still coming around is where have I
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been able to help out? And I think being able
to really get into it because of the incredible connections
that I was able to make here over eighteen years,
specifically since the launch of Later with mo Kelly and
being a part of that inaugural season and then going
all the way through twenty twenty four and everything else
that we've been through. It's amazing. Because my dms are
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open and if you want to reach out to me,
Nick Poliokane this week of a Nick on Instagram, that's
the easiest way to get hold of me. But I've
been able to coordinate so much with you know, connecting
businesses and people and trying to find those things. I mean,
the thing that we have not really talked about, the
Grammys are coming up. Like it's kind of crazy to
think that the Grammys are right around the corner. There's
an event that I came from earlier today, getting the
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kicker off the Grammys. I'll be also participating in Grammy
functions that are coming up. We've got the super Bowl.
Just we've got that game around the corner. You know,
we've got You can hear the rules.
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You can talk about the super Bowl, okay, you just
can't use it to promote a product and use the
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going over to Tallas House. We're gonna watch the super
Bowl together in right, but I can't say, hey, tune
in the Lady with Moke Kelly where you could win
your chance to go to the can't do that.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
That game I got you, Okay. So with that, it's
just being able to really hit Tawala. I love your
contemplative thoughts. If people could see us in studio, I
think that's the thing we this show. I mean, many
many shows on radio period would benefit highly from having
a camera in their face show what's working on. I
feel that and I can't wait for that. But and
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we've done how many Instagram lives here too, so you
do know but our faces.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
But there's certain things with stories be for public consumptions.
Correct some of the conversations during the break and the
facial expressions during the break. I mean the fact that
Mark Runner doesn't wear pants in the news room. He
says it like he's kidding, but he's actually telling the truth.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
I'm impressed that they finally got you a little like
knee blanket or whatever you have in their market. I
don't know what that if it's a modesty thing or
if it's keeping you warm, but what the story is, dude.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, I was like, it's not very large, but.
Speaker 11 (35:14):
I really enjoy watching how you guys twist around to
find a way to get me involved in these baroque insults.
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Get you here, it's time to break. You know you're
at the time. I know that the seat must be clean.
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Yeah, it's the best seat in the house, because Lord
knows in here sits here.
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Normally you don't need pants to do the news do you.
I mean, we'll find out in a second. You think
Walter Cronkite wore pants.
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I think none. If I am six forty more simulating
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Oho winmo Kelly KFI AM six forty y is later
with Moe Kelly were Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
In nineteen seventy eight, doctor Ronald McNair was selected as
one of thirty five applicants from a pool of ten
thousand for the NASA Astronaut Program. McNair flew as a
mission specialist on STS forty one B, a board Space
(00:24):
Shuttle Challenger, back on February third through February eleventh, nineteen
eighty four, becoming the second African American to fly in space.
But on January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, thirty nine
years ago. Today, McNair Paris is part of the Challenger crew.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Nine ers ken nine eight seven six. We have main
engines start four three two one and liftoff liftoff of
the twenty fifth Face Shuttle.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Mission and it as clear as the.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Tower Roger Challenger.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
ConTroll program confirmed. Challenger now heading down range engines beginning
throttling down now at ninety four percent normal throttles for
most of the plant one hundred and four percent. We
(01:28):
will throttle down to sixty five percent shortly one minute
fifteen seconds. Flocidy twenty nine hundred feet per second altitude
nine nautical mouths down range, just at seven naugle miles.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It looks like a couple of the solid rocket boosters
blew away from the side of the shuttle in an explosion.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Controllers here looking very carefully at the situation. Obviously a
major malfunction.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Have no downey right now. His older brother, Carl McNair,
founder of McNair Achievement Programs, author and STEM education consultant,
joins me now on the show as we pay remembrance
to him and the rest of the Challenger crew. Carl,
my friend. Great to talk to you again. How have
you been.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh, I'm doing very well. Brother Mo. Did I call
you brother Moe?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, you can't because we are brothers, that's right. Aside
from your brother, your younger brother's exploits, his academic exploits,
which included a PhD in physics from MIT. Ronald McNair
was a saxophonist, a jazz enthusiast. He was a man
of Omega Sci Fi fraternity like you and me. He
was a fifth degree black belt in karate. When I
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was a young teenager, I wanted to be Ronald McNair.
But who was your brother beyond what most often is
publicly shared.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Well, Ron was like any of So many people think
he was like a bookworm, but Ron was. As we
were growing up, he was on the football team and
the baseball team, ran track and just like any other kid.
But he had a satiable theft for knowledge. That was
Ron in the nutshell.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
When he was doing his thing being a baseball diamond
or track field or any of his other exploits, did
you see something in him which said he's not going
to choose any of that. He's going to be a scientist.
He is going to do something in the stem field.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yes, not to mention that he was very good at
science and math, and as he was very good at
the sports and what have you. But I think this
was this particular time when he had a laccident at
home where he cast his kneecap, and instead of going
through the pain and agony of having gassed your your
(03:56):
your kneecap, he started showing me the ligaments and the
us I knew something was strange about me.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
What was home like for you and your family? Were
your parents really tough on you as far as school?
Did they encourage you to pursue certain careers. What was
life like growing up in the McNair household.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Well, my mother only went to the eleventh grade. Rather more,
my father only went to the eighth grade, and my
mother only went to eleventh grade because they would allow
black people to go past the eleventh grade in this
segregated town in South Carolina. But she did find a
way to go on to school. And we saw her
(04:42):
the nasty throughout our lives and all for education, and
I think that inspired us. My dad he would say, hey, look,
whatever you want to do, just be a just do it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, if you're going to be a bomb, be a
good bomb. That was his advice.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Do you remember when or was there a singular moment
when doctor Minair maybe came to you and said, Carl,
I have this dream of becoming an astronaut or I'm
going to apply for the NASA astronaut program. Do you
remember that moment. Was there a moment like that?
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Well, there was a like that, and I'll tell you
about that moment, but I'll.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Tell you how he got to that point.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
Ron.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
I remember, Ron had finished his education at A and
T where he and I started at the same time.
That's North Carolina, A and T in Greensboro, North Carolina.
And it was through A and T where he got
the opportunities to spend a summer at MIT and thereby
having a look at Mit, Mit had to look at him,
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and he knew the professors, and that made it I
won't say easier, but sometimes when you made relationships and
connections in your network, it makes it a little easier.
But it wasn't before he had some self doubts early
on why he was at A and C whether he
could compete, because he ran into these guys who was
in the physics program, and they came from the school
(06:08):
Swamp North. They had all of these great math and
science courses. In fact, they had physics, thermodynamics and classical
mechanics and had modern physics. And Ron only had a
class of physics one oh one taught by a teacher
who never saw a book of physics. So he came
in at a disadvantage, almost quit but to become a
(06:29):
music major. But his advisor, which you could only find,
we'd like to think that way, but usually at HPCUS
you'll find folks who will make certain that you get
what you need. She encouraged him to go try physics.
That was the confidence that he needed. He went on
and try try physics, and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was a bitter, cold, but sparkling clear morning at
Cape canaveral Man and here at the last seconds of
the countdown.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Three two one and lift off, left off solve the
twenty fifth base Shuttle mission and it as clear.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
As the tower.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
All the communications between the shuttle and mission control indicated
everything was going fine. There was a sense of relief
that the much delayed flight was finally underway.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Engines had sixty five percent, three engines are running normally,
three good fuel deals, three good APUs engines throttling up,
three engines and owin one hundred and four percent challenger
goh it throttle up.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It happened just over one minute into flight.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
One minute fifteen seconds, flanty twenty nine hundred and pet
per second, altitude nine augo milestown, range distance seven aug.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
A mile, our mission control silence. Then the bland chilling report.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
We have a report from the flight dynamics officer that
the vehicle has exploded. Flight director confirms that we are
looking at checking with the recovery forces to see what
can be done at this point.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
A search effort couldn't begin for some fifteen minutes after
this debris, they said, just kept raining.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
From the sky.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
The head of the Space Shuttle program had no explanations,
just sorrow at the tragedy.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
At eleven forty am this morning, Space program experience our
national tragedy with the explosion of the Space Shuttle Challenger.
Approximately a minute and a half, I have to launch
from here at the Kennedy Space Center.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Computer enhanced video shows the explosion in detail. What explosion
appears to happen at the rear of the spacecraft, around
the main engines, perhaps in one of the two solid
rocket boosters. Then up last, higher up, the shuttle was
instantly a blazing fireball. NASA has appointed a committee of
top engineers and scientists to investigate the catastrophe. Orders have
(08:51):
been issued to impound all records concerning the flight, down
to the personal notes of all the flight controllers. Dan Molina,
NBC News at the Johnson Space Center, Houston.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
On the line right now is Carl McNair, the older
brother of doctor Ronald McNair, who perished thirty nine years
ago today on Challenger fifty one l if you old
enough to remember, it changed history. We'll have more with
Carl McNair in just a moment.
Speaker 9 (09:18):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
And I'm right in the middle of a very special conversation.
On this day, thirty nine years ago STS fifty one
l Space Shuttle Challenger exploded. If you old enough like
me to remember, it changed history. Right now on the
line with me is Carl McNair, the older brother of
doctor Ronald McNair, who perished along with six other astronauts
(09:47):
on this day thirty nine years ago. And Carl, I
think I remember, and I know you remember the Space
Shuttle program. It was after the Apollo missions. The mandate,
the direction of the space program was just different. What
was your brother's aspiration beyond the Space Shuttle program? Did
he want to go, maybe one day, back to the
(10:08):
move Where did he think his astronaut career would take him?
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Well, all along Ronald wanted to be a college professor.
But when the opportunity came to apply to NASA, he
knew there was a latent desire to become an astronaut.
But remember now, during the dark times of the Gemini
and Apollo. You had to be military, you had to
be a fighter pilot, you had to be twenty twenty visions.
(10:33):
You didn't you couldn't be black. And of course he
certainly didn't fit the requirement of being a fighter pilot
because he never looked.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Playing, never was in the military.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
So when the Space Shuttle program came around, this was
NASA's opportunity to have a more diverse space program. So
you had women, you had other ethnicities like white, et cetera.
And that's when he took advantage of that. That's how
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he took advantage of it. And there was always this
laten designs. I said, I think Star Trek that was
a big plus for a lot of young people to
consider science degrees or work in the area of science
or stam if you will. And the prom was motivated
Prome by one person more so than anyone else, and
(11:22):
that was Lieutenant Yohora played by Michelle Nichols on Star Trek.
Let me tell you, folks will go back that time
to understand that was hour halle Berry doing those ladies.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Carl. Let me ask you this because I have to
ask you within the context of what's going on today.
The whole idea of DEI diversity equity inclusion is controversial
for lack of a better description, and it's been met
with a lot of resistance. But you're telling me, if
not for the public calls to diversify NASA, we would
(11:57):
not have heard about doctor Ronald McNair or his ex
world or his contributions within NASA. Is that correct?
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Absolutely? And probably for women as well. They didn't have
any women and it was the New Space Program where
they had decided to diversify. I might add that was
under the administration Jimmy Carter, President Jimmy Carter's administration, So
that kind of kind of fits, doesn't it, And so
that's how that came about.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It would be very challenging today. I thought about this recently.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Obviously, that would being that I posted a picture of
the Space Shuttle Challenger fifty one L crew and I
thought to myself, would this have been possible today?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Would have been possible?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Since we're there, let's talk about it now directly. I
remember where I was when I got the news that
the Challenger Space Shuttle fifty one L had exploded shortly
after takeoff thirty nine years ago this week, I was
a junior in high school. I was walking in between
Spanish and ap English classes. I remember the cloud around
the very public investigation afterward. You know, all this is
(13:02):
just like seared in my memory. There have been plenty
of documentaries and movies over the years, and Karl McNair,
I've known you for some twenty years and I've never
asked you, but I'm asking you now. Have we, the
general public, or at least the families, gotten the full
truth surrounding Challenger?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Quite frankly, we have no real idea.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
We know with some of the reports, We've seen some
documentaries and found out more, But the answer is no.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
How do you look upon that some thirty nine years later.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Well, I'm very actor, quite frankly, as somebody said, whatever
they tell me, it's not going to bring Ron back,
not going to bring in aid of the crew back.
So I focus on the positive. As you well know,
we have a lot of mcneir's scholars program.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
We have over five.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
Thousand mcnear's scholars program, mcnehir's scholars in the program right now.
We've seen go on to do remarkable things in the
areas of science, technology, engineering, math, as well as other
profession as well. You know, for instance, Congresswoman Natima Williams
from Georgia, she's a McNair scholar, and there's others who
have achieved great things who are mcneir's scholars.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And it had it not been for.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
The program, as I hear her from a person as
early as today, and had not been for that program,
they never would.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Have achieved the level of success that they have.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
And the whole idea is inspired them be going to
graduate school ultimately to get a PhD or some other
doctor degree and return and be that person in front
of the classroom that many of them found themselves absent of.
So that's the essence of the program.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Carlbing there, My time is running short with you, but
I know earlier this evening and I appreciate you coming
on on such short notice. But earlier this evening there
was a candle light visual for doctor McNair as doctor
Ronald E. McNair Life History Memorial Park in Lake City,
South Carolina, where he was born. This is an annual
event to keep his memory alive. Along those lines, what
do you hear from the young people who may not
(15:08):
have any memory of him? But are now first learning
about him.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Well, we've found over the years. So the first thing
young people must do be exposed to possibilities out there.
As you occurred before. You can't be what you can't see,
and so we showed them, not only the professionals who
are in those areas as well. The Cantillot Visuals is
the annual annual event, if you will, to remember in
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our small town, Lake City, South Carolina, when we were
coming along, it was no more than population what two thousand,
now maybe it's around eight if.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
He fludge it a little bit.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
And people need to remember that here was a country
bar from Lake City, South Carolina. As I mentioned, population
two thousand and segregated South Carolina was almost thrown out
the library. But he came out of this environment went
on to become an astronaut. And it was because of
(16:10):
the upbringing the school teachers at the time that we had.
And we remember, we remember the school teachers as well,
if it had not been for them to inspire Ron
to go to the Sower program at Virginia Union, which
is another HBCU, and that's when he got the idea
from a professor that he could go all the way
(16:30):
to the PhD. Didn't know what it was.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
But he was going to receive a PhD out there
learning that that was the highest academic level that you
could achieve.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
So that was the spark right there that carried him
on and some great advisors.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
And he didn't get there by himself.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I want anybody to think that he just you know,
got to that level by himself, but people along the line.
I called him guarding an agents to looking over shielder
and make certain it takes the right direction.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
He is Carl McNair, founder of McNair Achievement Program, author
and STEM Education consultant. He, like me and doctor Ronald McNair,
are men of Omega Sci Fi Fraternity Incorporated. Ral McNair,
I said it early, I'll stay it again. I've known
you for about twenty years. I've appreciated our dialogues off
air about your brother and your brother's achievements, and I
(17:19):
want to celebrate you and yours as well. Thank you
for coming on this show tonight, and let's keep Ronald
McNair's memory alive.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Thank you, brother. Kelly.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
It's later with Moe Kelly k IF. I am six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty and.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You've been hearing the updates. We are excited here. Fire
Aid is almost here. We were talking about this just
off air before the show about how much we are
excited by not only the fact we had the fire coverage,
but there's something good which is going to come out
of it where we as a community can come together
(18:01):
and make sure that these individuals who've lost their homes,
these individuals who don't know where to turn next, may
have lost their businesses, can get, at least on a
small level, some help. And we told you about fire
Aid before it was even going to be called fire Aid,
before they even had any artists who were signed up.
But we told you about the process. Here's what's going
(18:22):
to happen, and you'll see these big names rolling in
and now the big names are here for fire Aid,
which is going to be on Thursday, January thirtieth at
both six pm at seven thirty pm between two different venues,
the Kia Form and the Into It Dome. And let's
say you can't get there in person, you can watch
(18:44):
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of course, SoundCloud, Amazon Live, TikTok FanDuel. It goes on
(19:09):
and on and on. What about tickets, Well, I'm glad
you asked. The tickets are available right now and you
can get them at ticketmaster dot com. What time is
the concert? Tell you again? Starts at six o'clock at
the ki of Forum. The doors open at five. The
Into a Dome will begin at seven point thirty. Doors
also open at five pm. And if you live in
(19:30):
and around Inglewood like me, well you're just sol. Don't
try to drive in that area if you don't actually
have to be in that area. Well, what if you
want to watch both concerts, Well you probably won't want
to go to the venue if you want to see
both concerts. But in an effort to ensure people can
at least experience as much of the fire Aid benefit
(19:51):
show as possible, fans who buy tickets four Into a
Dome will be able to view the key of Form
show when it begins on screens inside the into a Dome. Conversely,
when the Key of Forms show ends, fans inside will
be able to view the acts at Into a Dome
on screens at the KYA Form until the end of
(20:12):
the event. If you're wondering how much ticket's gonna cost, well,
they start at ninety nine dollars. But here's the good news.
One hundred percent of ticket purchases go to benefit fire
aid relief efforts with all venue and ticketing service fees way,
so the price you see is the price you will
actually pay, and one hundred percent of that ticket goes
(20:34):
to benefit fire aid relief efforts. Now, you will have
the opportunity to go either show, but you probably won't
be able to go to both shows. In other words,
tickets are only valid for the venue that you select,
So be very clear are you buying tickets for Kia
Forum or into a Dome Because it will not let you.
(20:55):
Even though they're right down the street from each other,
You're not gonna be able to drive back and forth.
Maybe spend an hour one venue then go over to
the other venue. No, they will have screens inside, but
you will not be allowed entrance or access to both venues.
And the question I usually get is you know, can
I watch it? Yes, some of us will just be
watching it. I know we may have it on the
(21:15):
screens and here inside the studio at KFI. Obviously we
can't listen to it per se, but we can watch
what's going on. But you you can watch it through
all those devices and streaming apps I told you about.
You can listen to any of the FM stations here
at iHeartMedia LA. They'll all be broadcasting the concert. And
it's going to be a wonderful, wonderful event. And I
(21:39):
haven't gone over yet. Let me go over it one
more time about some of the acts which are going
to be performing. This is just some of the acts.
I expect some last minute late announcements about huge, huge performers,
but right now we know at the end to it Dome,
you're going to have Billie Eilish Abrams little baby shout
(22:02):
out to Mark Runner. That's what you had me at
the infant Mark you have always been a little Baby fan.
So it's my job to give credit where credit is due.
Lady Gaga, Olivia Rodrigo, Katy Perry, and if that wasn't
good enough, Stevie Wonder, the Stevie Wonder, Tate mccraig, Staying
and Moore. In other words, they have other artists which
(22:24):
they will be announcing in the next twenty four hours
at the key of form. Let's say I love into
a Dome, but I'm more interested in going to the
Kia form. Well, here's what's waiting for you a lot.
It's more Set Green Day, Dave Matthews and John Mayer,
Red Hot Chili Peppers, No Doubt, Pink, and some other
surprise guests that they will be announcing, and you can
(22:48):
listen to all this on the iHeartRadio app. Of course,
you can listen to it on our terrestrial radio stations.
I told you about our FM radio stations. I'm talking
about my FM, or Real ninety two to three, or
Co's one of three point five, KISSFM one on two
point seven. There's so many ways that you can enjoy,
but more importantly, participate in this tremendous event for the
(23:10):
benefit for victims of these fires. We've been telling you
about that, We've been covering them for the better part
of two and a half weeks, and now we can
move from the crisis portion to the recovery portion. And
we have Nick Pouliochini in the studio who knows a
little bit about music. We have twallets Sharpen the studio
knows a little bit about music, and I know just
(23:31):
a little bit about music. And I can tell you
it's rare, and it's good that it's rare given the circumstances.
It's rare you have this much talent together under one roof,
much less two roofs.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Well, yeah, And I think it's gonna be really interesting
to see exactly what happens and what this is because
the last time we did this was we had like
Farm Aid and we've had all these different Aid concerts
throughout time. But I'm really curious to see how this
is going to play out, because I mean, you've got
two venues, You've got two completely different setups.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
What is it going to be?
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Is it going to be something akin to a telethon
like we've been used to kind of down that farm
made path?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Is just gonna be straight music? Like what exactly is
the breakdown going to be? Here's something that I noticed
that is really different and significant. You talked about or
mentioned Live Aid, Farm Aid that was in a stadium, right,
this is much more intimate, exact when you're in an
arena of let's say, nineteen to twenty thousand people as
opposed to eighty ninety thousand people, which as a concert
(24:26):
goer is far more attractive for me. All this talent
and I'll say, a relatively small arena, and you got
other big names which are coming between now and Thursday. Lookout. Oh,
I agree.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I'm hoping to see some really, really, really unique acoustic performances.
See that's a really really personal intimate performance.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
How is it you know that? And why would you
expect that?
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Because from doing shows like this, where you have artists
who are coming out who are not doing their normal
concerts setup. Whenever I've been involved in producing a show like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This, you produce shows like this, I have I've had
quite a history.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
Some of these artists as a matter as a matter
of fact, lots of these artists.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Oh how about lots of these artists.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
When you have shows like this a lot of times
and artists will come out with their signature musician team.
They will have a small arrangement team, maybe a keyboard player,
guitar upright, bass, you know, just the things that they
need to just really knock out a show real fast,
unless they're going to perform the track. Alah, maybe a
little baby may be perform to track to kind of
(25:43):
help things move along. But with artists like Billy Eilish
and the Likes and even Stevie Wonder, I will just
come out and say, hey, you know what, in order
to make the show flow, I'm gonna come out and
do my big hit. I'm gonna do another song which
I will dedicate directly to the victims of the wildfire.
You know, say God bless you good night. And that
is what we will see a lot of because this
(26:05):
is a lot of acts to pack into one night
on a Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
The show isn't going on all night long, No it isn't.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
So this is these are also union houses that have
to What does that mean? They have to shut down
at a certain time. Light's got to go on otherwise.
And I know, God bless you Steve Walmer for picking
up the tab. But but but there does come a
limit and you will have to say light's got to
go on at eleven.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
This is a show. As a performer, you want to
perform early. You definitely want to perform early because people
are going to invariably take more time than they're supposed to.
There's gonna be some logistical issues getting people on and
off stage, maybe some technical difficulties, and if you're let's
say the ninth or tenth act, and it's getting late
in the evening, you may be asked to cut a
(26:50):
song from your set evening.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
I mean, like, like anyone going, I want to make
sure you're going knowing that these are not contraport just
if they come out and do a song, if they donate,
because remember, these arts are donating their time. These are
arts who are getting paid millions upon millions of dollars
to go on tour. I want you to know if
they come out and they are able to donate a
(27:15):
song or two, then cheer them on like it is
the best thing you've ever seen, because they are donating
their time to quite possibly one of the most worthy
causes of this century, I would say. And so I
solution you and shout out to the technical crew, behind
the scenes crew, back house staging everyone ahead of time,
(27:35):
because I know it is going to be hectic.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
And let me put it in just the consumer's terms.
For ninety nine dollars, you would not be able to
see one of these artists, much less thirteen of them.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Trust My daughter's trying to get tickets to see Billie
Eilish London.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Their ticket is five hundred dollars.
Speaker 10 (27:53):
And I'm going to say something they've already looked because
we kind of broke the news about this concert when
it came out. We did those not need like I
was literally we was literally here sitting in this chair.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Was the first one, was the first Later with Kelly.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Was the very first show in Los Angeles to talk
about it, long before you heard any promos. No, I
agree with you. The here's the challenge though, And remember
I'm saying this not in a cynical way, because every
single penny is going to an incredibly important, you know,
situation to assist with. But those ninety nine dollars tickets
are long gone.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So okay, let's say the next tier up. You're still
teen hundred dollars. Okay, it's the next tier up? Can
if I am six forty we live everywhere in the iheartrad.
Speaker 9 (28:38):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
And coming up at the top of the hour. I'm
always so glad to see my brother in study with us,
Nick Poliochini. It's our new segment, What's Up with Nick?
What's up? Comma with Nick? Not what's up with just
like later with Mokelly. Right, yes, because if you say
Landward Kelly, this sounds nigga now when you say what's
up with Nick?
Speaker 10 (29:04):
But really well with the show that started here this
weekend came Yeah, there you go, so all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
What do you have coming up at the top of
the hour.
Speaker 10 (29:14):
I'm excited because it has been I don't know. First
of all, I'd like to say, welcome to Tuesday, the
forty ninth of February. Is what it feels like without
a joke in my you know, just saying that. But
I want to talk about what's going on in the Southland.
We've already covered a lot here. We've got fire aid
coming up, We've got so much else. But also tomorrow,
a good portion of not just southern California, especially in
(29:35):
Orange County, Garden Grove, Westminster, Santa Ana, we'll be celebrating
Lunar New Year, and so that's what we're going to
preview and We're going to talk about a lot of
things that you can do and enjoy in and around
the south Land, give you a little bit of history
and background on Lunar New Year as well. And I
want to talk about the biggest Vietnamese community outside of
Vietnam is in Orange County. We've talked about it here
in KFI many times.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Before, and I didn't know that until you told me
about this.
Speaker 10 (29:58):
This was like right, But that's it's wild to think
that it's been something that you know, is I mean,
you could say it's something that we are very proud
of here in southern California. Is the cultural diversity that
we have, and not just you know, here in Los
Angeles County, but La County, Riverside County, Sanmerdandino Ventura.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 10 (30:15):
You know, I'm just saying it's we have such a
diverse group of people who come together. And a lot
of the businesses that I've been talking to have been
raising money as well for the fires, the you know,
for the Eaten fire, for Alsadena, for the Palasades fire,
So you know it'll be something different.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, I think that's a function of a byproduct of
everybody knows somebody, yes, who was impacted by these fires.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
You're correct, and I think like we've talked about here
on Later but you you and Toualla specifically talking about
the Dina like talking about the community that is or
you know, is there still a lot of these communities
have been affected and they know people and being of
an international and a different cultural existence and experience here
in southern California, some of them are still pretty quiet
(31:02):
and they like to keep themselves, but they've been doing
just as much behind the scenes as much as they
can to help support but not just their community, but
the community at large.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
So we'll talk about that a little bit as well.
And you gotta give us an update on what you're
doing personally.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
I'll be happy to because lord knows, since begin in December,
I've been out of work. So let's be real and
genuine and audience. That's how we keep it here on
Later but real, No, but I think that's it. It's
just like so many of you who are trying to
figure out what's next here in twenty twenty five, That's
what I'm doing and pound the pavement and seeing what
there is out there. You can still see me on
(31:37):
social media, Nick pollio'channi this week with Nick and many
other brands fifteen minute footy and that'll be what we'll
be diilding into a little bit here with eighty five
Degrees Bakery, which uh oh yeah, which I was gonna say,
you've thoroughly enjoyed, so you can tell about business. I
was gonna say, you tell about business. So what's funny
is it is for those of you who will participate
in watching your calories coming in the New Year. Some
(31:58):
of the stuff is keto friendly, some of it's kind
of paleo, so you know, I got you back.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, it's not completely sugar laden. No it's not.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
It's not, but it's delicious and it has really so
many and we're also going to try something that is
very different. This is specific for Lunar New Year. Golden
yolk red bean pastry. Say that again, slower golden yolk.
You know that the eggs that we keep talking about prices, Yeah,
that red bean pastry. So this is going to be
(32:28):
one of the things that a lot, well, especially in Taiwan,
but a lot of different places have different things that
they do to celebrate Lunar New Year. So we're going
to delve a little bit deeper into that, but yeah,
that's pretty much what I've been up to is trying
to figure out what's next. And I think that's what
a lot of us are doing right now, is kind
of figuring out what's next. It's the new year. We
always are trying to figure out what's next and what's
(32:48):
new for each of us. And some people subscribe to resolutions.
I just need a job, So if that's my resolution,
is finding a job and finding the next thing. But
I think the thing that I have done the most
between last year being let go by iHeart and then
also you know, still coming around is where have I
(33:09):
been able to help out? And I think being able
to really get into it because of the incredible connections
that I was able to make here over eighteen years,
specifically since the launch of Later with mo Kelly and
being a part of that inaugural season and then going
all the way through twenty twenty four and everything else
that we've been through. It's amazing. Because my dms are
(33:30):
open and if you want to reach out to me,
Nick Poliokane this week of a Nick on Instagram, that's
the easiest way to get hold of me. But I've
been able to coordinate so much with you know, connecting
businesses and people and trying to find those things. I mean,
the thing that we have not really talked about, the
Grammys are coming up. Like it's kind of crazy to
think that the Grammys are right around the corner. There's
an event that I came from earlier today, getting the
(33:51):
kicker off the Grammys. I'll be also participating in Grammy
functions that are coming up. We've got the super Bowl.
Just we've got that game around the corner. You know,
we've got You can hear the rules.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
You can talk about the super Bowl, okay, you just
can't use it to promote a product and use the
name super Bowl. Look, I could tell people, yeah, I'm
going over to Tallas House. We're gonna watch the super
Bowl together in right, but I can't say, hey, tune
in the Lady with Moke Kelly where you could win
your chance to go to the can't do that.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
That game I got you, Okay. So with that, it's
just being able to really hit Tawala. I love your
contemplative thoughts. If people could see us in studio, I
think that's the thing we this show. I mean, many
many shows on radio period would benefit highly from having
a camera in their face show what's working on. I
feel that and I can't wait for that. But and
(34:44):
we've done how many Instagram lives here too, so you
do know but our faces.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
But there's certain things with stories be for public consumptions.
Correct some of the conversations during the break and the
facial expressions during the break. I mean the fact that
Mark Runner doesn't wear pants in the news room. He
says it like he's kidding, but he's actually telling the truth.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
I'm impressed that they finally got you a little like
knee blanket or whatever you have in their market. I
don't know what that if it's a modesty thing or
if it's keeping you warm, but what the story is, dude.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, I was like, it's not very large, but.
Speaker 11 (35:14):
I really enjoy watching how you guys twist around to
find a way to get me involved in these baroque insults.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Get you here, it's time to break. You know you're
at the time. I know that the seat must be clean.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Yeah, it's the best seat in the house, because Lord
knows in here sits here.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
Normally you don't need pants to do the news do you.
I mean, we'll find out in a second. You think
Walter Cronkite wore pants.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I think none. If I am six forty more simulating
talk about Leo. Yeah, live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Yeah, phone, car radio, smart toaster. We don't care how
you listen, just that you do.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
K F I'm kost HD two Los Angeles, Orange County.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
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