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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And have you watched Squid Game Season two yet on Netflix?
I benched it all in a day and a half.
It's a shorter season. It won't take you much time.
I think it's seven episodes, and that is somewhat disappointing
if you get used to nine or thirteen episode seasons
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of a TV show can be disappointing. But these are
all at least an hour, so you're gonna get a
good seven hours of content for season two. I said
before my short review was you have to see season one.
It leads directly into season two. It tells you everything
you need to know going into season two. If you
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think you can pick it up at the beginning of
season two, it will be a waste of time. You
have to see season one in its entirety, or season
two is not gonna make any sense at all.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That said, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I didn't like how the season ended, and I don't
want to give it away, but it felt like if
you saw the Matrix trilogy at the end of the
Matrix reloaded, it ended at a very odd point. It
ended at a at a at a high point as
far as action was concerned, Squid Game Season two does
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something very similar. Okay, have you seen it yet, Stephan,
I haven't finished it, but just going off what you're saying.
Because they knew that there's going to be a third one,
right which they have recently announced. Yea, it is definitely
coming this year. In fact, they dropped a teaser. It
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doesn't have any real sound of were. Yeah, They've already
dropped a teaser for season three.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And I'm the only one who saw it. Is this
new season worth it?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So far as my problem is this the way Squid
Game ended. The first Squid Game ended. It ended in
a way that I said to myself, Okay, once it
got out of the Squid Game and it got into
trying to discover, you know, the secrets behind and the
guys that I want to stop, I was like, Okay,
I'm only interested in the game.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They got that for you, They got that for you.
They are pulling more of those threads. As far as
who is the sinister force behind the game, what needs
to be done, well, let me put it this way.
The beginning of season two puts you it's like three
year time jump, and Song, who's the principal character. He's
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using all of his prize money that he won in
season one to facilitate finding out who.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Is behind all of this. And I'm not going to
tell you how he.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Goes about it, but they're showing you all the steps
that he's taking. And long story short, he finds that
his methods are not working, so he has to.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Gobut traffic.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, okay, and so it's yes, I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I just didn't like where they stopped it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I would have rather, let's say, season three is also
seven episodes.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I would have rather seen the fourteen than just a seven.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I would have waited the extra seven eight months into
twenty twenty five and just got the whole story instead
of just part two of the story.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But I get it. It's a hit.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's set a Netflix record. I'm only one episode end,
but I I forgot how you described it. You just
just great job of describing Squid Game season two. But
season two, because you were talking about, oh, how are
they gonna discuss the shock factor and the game and
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all this stuff, they kind of rivity, They kind of
got away from that, like they just focused on the
characters and in the beginning of season two, in the beginning, yes, yeah, yeah,
And I think that is key because it's like you
already know the game if you were if you haven't
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seen it.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Ah, but you think you know the game, but you
don't know the Yeah. See, I'm only one that there
there are. Yeah, there are a lot of misdirections.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And you think X is going to happen because you think,
because you've seen season one, you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, you don't, No, you don't. Uh. They got some
surprises for you.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
You should know that if you're just going into this,
it's not like tuning in for another season of Survivor
or something. They throw some new wrinkles at this, including
one of my favorite tropes in fiction, which is the
guy who could get away free and clear, deciding of
his own free will to go back into danger because
it's something he feels like he has to do.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, that's an apt description. It's almost like you've seen it.
I've got one episode to go. Okay, Okay, I've seen
six of the seven. Yeah, all right, so I know
exactly where you are. It just ended for me at
a very inopportune moment. Not that I wanted more, but
they really like they left you hanging. They really left
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you hanging, like more than the first season, more than
the first season, because at least the first season, you
knew how the game was going to turn out. Let
me ask you, Mobe They okay, the creator said that
he was never going to make a second season, but
when you get to the end of the first one,
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there is no way that there couldn't be a second.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Absolutely, But they do listen to people like Tuala saying like, hey,
I care about the game, I don't care about the
stuff around the game. And Mark knows this. They got
something for you. They've got something for you. There's a
reason why they're telling to Mark's point, there's a reason
why they're telling a story that you'll see Stephan in
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the first two episodes, I think, and then it really
picks up speed in episode three.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I think it's really smartly done and I like it
better than the first season.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And if you know the first season as far as well,
let's be honest, how violent it was, Season two is
far more violent.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
It's far more for you serious, Oh yes, oh wow
for a mainstream TV series that I think the last
number I saw was sixty eight million people had watched
it so far, and that was a couple of days ago,
so it's much bigger now. The violence is really no,
it's not cartoonish. It's violence like ooh.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Ooh, it's like, oh oh my gosh. Stop. Yeah, nothing
is off limits. Okay, Yeah, I'm excited now. Yeah, I'm
one upset of it. It's really good. It's it's really
well done. Yeah. Oh okay, So we talked about this before.
I want to circle back to it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, are you watching it in Korean or English? I'm
I'm watching it in Korean. However, it's it's funny that
you brought that up. There were like two season two
scenes that I that I watched. I watched it all
the way through Korean with the subtitles, and then I
went back and watched it with the English dub. And
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to Mark and to Walla's point, you don't really miss
a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's just the slang. M that's kind of what you
miss out on. Yeah. Well, when it's in English, you
get nothing but American slag.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's like, okay, they had to have changed the dialogue
to fit American ears in English audiences. Yeah, you know
the profanity which is being used as like okay, that's
a that's.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
An English formulation. Yeah, you know, what do you say
like m f R.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's like, oh, okay, I don't know that actually translates
to Korean, but I got the idea.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Jive blanking again.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, it's the supporting cast I believe is stronger than
season one. They're more defined personality season one. You know
they have like the bully, the gangster. Yeah, they have
more personalities in this one. And for me, I can't
speak for Mark. For me, I felt attached to more
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than just the main character.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
They do a good job that the people who wrote
this and created it understand that that's your way in
is by people. It's not just about, you know, the
game and the killing and the reward. It's about getting
you involved in the story of these people who are
so desperate that they take up this challenge to begin with.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And it makes sense, it's believable, and as you go
through season two's talking about the psychology of people, why
they do what they do, and what motivates them to
make the decisions that they do.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Which make no sense to us, the non.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Desperate, and it is so on point with current events
that you'd have to be blind not to notice the similarities,
especially when they vote between the games whether or not
to proceed. And so you've got one side that wants
to do the safe, rational, intelligent thing and the other
side that wants to do the insane, self destructive thing,
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and there's no reasoning with them, and then all the
conversations and fights that come about as a result of
all that. It's I think it's pretty absorbing. Yeah, it's
it's very layered.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It's sometimes it may be a little too smart for
its own good, where to Mark's point, they may not.
People may not get all the subtleties and the let's
be honest, the messages which the show is imparting. But
it's it's worth a watch to well, definitely worth the watch.
It's Late with mo Kelly. When we come back, we
want to talk about the movies that we're most looking
forward to here in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six four CAFI.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Mo Kelly had a conversation with Wayne Resnick today, who
was in for Bill Handle And by the way, Wayne
announced his retirement from radio today. Tomorrow's going to be
his last day on CAFI. Yeah, except from for Real.
Caught a lot of people off guard. But in our
conversation we were talking about the movies and the movie industry
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as far as how movie theaters are doing. And the
main takeaway is, and we've discussed it here, that people
are less choosing the movie theater because look, let's be honest,
I didn't see Wicked in theaters, and I know it's
available on streaming right now. Movies don't stay in theaters
depending on how old you are. If you go back
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to the nineteen eighties, you can take a movie like
The Karate Kid that was in theaters about six months
and then you had to wait, I don't know, another
six months before it came out on video, whatever version
of video that was available back then. I think it
was like, yeah, I think we had the beta at
that point, an all TV select Take any movie. Because
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I'm a little bit younger than you guys, but take
any movie. It felt like it was in theaters for
six months easily, and then you had to wait.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Another three or four months to get it on VHS.
Yeah for me.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And part of the reason you knew that if you
didn't see it in theaters, you were not going to
see it. Now you may not have seen it immediately,
and back then you had the chance for movies to
swell as far as a word of mouth, Hey, you
gotta go see this, you gotta go see that, and
you had time to see something.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Now, if you don't see it in the first two weeks,
it may be gone.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But that's okay, it'll be on streaming shortly thereafter. I
just saw Gladiator too two nights ago on streaming.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I just bought Wicked. I bought Wicked. We watched it
over the weekend. Could not believe that a Gladiator two
was already availed. How long has that been? Less than
a month? Less than a month exactly, and it feels
like five minutes. And to reinforce the point, after I
saw it, it's like, yeah, I'm glad I didn't see
this in theaters.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I had to go to wickeed and are still in
theaters and they'll still play, I know, but you don't
have to watch them in theaters.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Long story short, that was our conversation and I also
said movie studios are going with the bankable commodities. That's
why you're going to see an s load of sequels,
reboots and remakes for twenty twenty five, because they have
to make money. You have to have a built in
audience which is going to see these movies in the one, two.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Three weeks tops that they're in an actual theater.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You gotta see it early or not at all as
far as this theater is concerned.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Here's some of the like.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
For example, these are just some of the sequels, reboots
and remakes which are coming out this year. Wallace and Grommet, Vengeance,
Most Foul, There's Bridgie Jones, Mad About the Boy, Captain America,
Brave New World. This is sequels, reboots and remakes. Paddington
and Peru. I don't care to see it, but someone does. Yeah,
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Snow White live Action. I'm not going to see it,
but someone will. This one I do. Mark, you may
want to see this as well. The Accountant to.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You know, the first Accountant movie really wasn't bad at all.
It was action film well with Ben Affleck.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He plays a neurodivergent accountant by day for the Mob
and also Assassin kind of like Jason Bourne meets rain Man.
That's the only way I can describe it. Perfect, perfect discression.
And it's a really really good movie. So if you
haven't seen the first one, which came out in twenty sixteen,
check it out. Because a sequel is coming out, and
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this is basically because of fan appreciation. Fans were just
asking for the sequel. They had no intention of making it.
It's just a fans were just clamoring for it. It's
coming out on April twenty fifth. Got The Thunder which
is coming out on May second, and that's you can say,
a sequel to Black Widow. And also The Falcon and
Winter Soldiers sits in a continuation of a story.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, that looks really fun. It does. It really does.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Lelo and Stitch live action version. I don't know how
that's gonna work. The character looks good, the animation on
the character looks good.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm not gonna see it. I mean it's not for you,
but yeah, that's true, mission impossible.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The final RECOGNI I can't wait, I can I can
I streaming?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, you have got to see the distusts that he's
doing this.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
He's going out major you know.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We need to see Tom Cruise risk his life, and
I'm going to watch every mission impossible from the beginning
leading up to it because there are a lot of
threads that they're going to tie off in old storylines.
They're gonna do all that, so I want to make
sure that all the stuff is fresh in my mind.
They have Karate Kid Legends May thirtieth, Now, this is
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one twalla. I would love to get your input on
How to Train Your Dragon live action.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Okay, I was not a huge, huge fan of How
to Train Your Dragon or any of the subsequent animated
sequels or anything that happened on the television show, but
I know it has a strong audience.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, twenty eight years later, I'll probably see that.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
That looks really good too. The trailer is surprisingly effective.
They've already made two of them. You think you know
everything that's going to happen, but just frames of the
trailer look really well, are directed.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I'll rewatch the first two so I'm up to
date for the third one. There's Megan two point zero
that has a huge following coming out June twenty seventh,
and something interesting about this. We have a lot of
horror vampire wear wolf movies all in the winter, not
like it's waiting for Halloween. They're coming out now in
the early portion of the new year. That's because Martin
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some's go see and report onctly.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Right, we need more were wolf movies. Uh, Lee Wannall
is doing one of them, right? Is that wolf Man
Wolf like a Wolf? There was a Frank Gorilla Werewolves
that didn't do well. That's already been out and I
wanted to see that already out. Yeah, that's gonna be
streaming anytime now check your watch. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
There's one sequel that I have no desire to see,
and I say this as a fan of the franchise,
and that's Jurassic World Rebirth. There are only so many
stories that you can tell about dinosaurs getting loose and
eating people, and you know you shouldn't have done it
in the first place.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And Relet Johansson, I'm sorry. This is brand new and
it's got Scarlett Johannes.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I heard that. I just don't know if there's
any new story to tell. The dinosaurs of the Star
they're gonna kill people, and I don't know if I'm
in the minority, but I saw the first one and
I was so disappointed. The reboot the Jurassic World, Yeah,
I just I saw it with my ex and she's like,
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it wasn't that bad, but she had a crush on
Chris Pratt felt I just I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I was like, no, they had a chance.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
When they brought back the cast of Jurassic Park, Sam Neil,
I was excited for I was too.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
And a.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know, he screwed the pooch on that one. You're
better off without that woman. Fush not lee. Uh. They're
Superman obviously, the James Gunn movie, which probably is the
movie of the year as far as anticipation. That's July eleventh,
and they're doing a remake to The Naked gun I
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don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
With Liam Neeson, right, Yeah, I don't know how I
feel about that. Poor guy.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
How old film to just crash and burn? What's his age?
He's seventy something. I don't know how old Leslie Nielsen was.
He's not funny.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Funny, Yeah, he's not funny about that guy.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The Bad Guys too, An, I didn't see The Bad
Guys one, you know that. That's when I actually wanted
to ask you about mo because it didn't get a
lot of hype. Nope, but it got a sequel. So
do they do good in the box office. I have
to look it up. But most of the animated films
do well enough. There's enough of an audience where if
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you don't spend one hundred and fifty million, you can
you can make money off these animated features.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, it did, know it did. That was the dream
worst picture. It did really good. I know what you
did last summer. Oh my gosh again.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, here's this movie. I do want to see it
as coming up on January seventeenth. It's called Presence and
it's a ghost story from the ghosts perspective. For me,
it reminds me of a movie called The Others, which
starred Nicole Kidman. Yes, you didn't know that you were
watching a ghost story. Sorry to give it away, but
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at the movie's twenty four years old, you didn't know
you were watching a ghost story from the ghost perspective.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But that was the real That was the veal at
the end of the movie. This is explicit.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Hey, this is a ghost story from the ghostplace from Soderberg. Yes, yes, uh,
that's coming out on January seventeenth. I do want to
see Sinners, which is March seventh. That's my b Jordan.
He returns to his childhood home and finds vampires there.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
That trailer is phenomenal. I like new ideas, Don't get
me wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love my sequels and reboots, but I love it
when you're telling a real different story, and that looks
like it could be a really good vampire story.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I mean it's it's Macaby Jordan and Ryan Coogler. Again,
they have a history of nothing but hit, so I'm there.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Jamie Fox is back punt intended in Back in Action
with dillazlixlix.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Oh okay, well it might even be streaming already. I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean it is January seventeenth, Okay, yeah you can.
You can rent it tomorrow probably, Okay, Mark, is there
anything that you're looking forward to before we go to break?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
You mentioned Soderbergh. He's got another one coming out. I
think it's called Black Bag. It's a spy film with Fastbender,
who is also in that agency show that you and
I are both watching right now.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
But I might be just simple like this, but I
watched just about everything with Michael Fastpender in it.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
He's terrific and if he were a little younger, he
would have made a good James Bond.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
He would what is he like? Late forties down.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I guess, and the Bond of the books is in
his mid to late thirties.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, he looks the part. Parts like the part.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
He has enough screen charisma for the part, but we'll
never see him. It's almost like I remember what Pierce
bros And he was like on the older end of
the spectrum for the role.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
As I remember, he just looked like a male model.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
To me, who's ass you could kick without trying real
hard if you grew up loving Sean Connery and then
even Roger Moore, Pierce Brosen wasn't going to do it
for you.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But look I liked him better than Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Point of contention, Yeah, I wasn't a big Dalton fan,
but a lot of the fans love him.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's interesting you say that because when we come back,
we're going to talk about the twelve Bond girl names
ranked according to Yahoo.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
A six forty saw this on Yahoo. They listed the
top twelve Bond girl names ranked, and we're probably going
to disagree. And we know that James bonded bond girls
kind of an antiquated terminology.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I call them bond.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Girls because that's what they were called back then. Yes,
they're bond women. Not trying to disparage, just sitting some
context and parameters for this. But Yahoo ranked them from
least best to best. So we're starting at the bottom
and working our way up, coming in at number twelve
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of the top Bond girls of all time, according to Yahoo,
and I expect commentary from Mark Ronner after each one.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Wait, can clarification please?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Are these are the top bond girl names or top
Bond girls names?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Okay, it just says names here, Yeah, just the names.
The Bond girl names ranked Number twelve is pussy Galore.
How is that not number one? I have no idea.
I mean, you can't get any better than that. I
mean you've got Holly Goodhead, but that's not as funny.
Where do you go from there?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, you don't want to know. We got a long
listes So.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Ms Galore is twelfth on this list. This list is
already invalid. Who did this? List Yahoo.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah you think it was variety, You would think you
would think, Yeah, ms Galore. Not only was it a
great name, but it was a great character, actress performance,
all of that.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The rold in the.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Hay Oh Yeah, Honor Blackman was a goddess, coming in
at number eleven of the best Bond girl names according
to Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Sylvia Trench.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
That's just a regular civilian name. What are they doing?
From Doctor No and from Russia with Love? Yeah, she
just shows up at the beginning of Russia with Love.
You wouldn't even know it's her, played by Eunice Gayson. Yeah,
she just died recently, coming in at number ten of
the best Bond girl names according to Yahoo.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I didn't like the movie GoldenEye, but the name was
Xenia on the Top.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I think that was a real reach. They were trying
too hard with Xenia on a Top, right. Yeah, they're
just trying to.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Make up syllables and throw them together and make it
sound weird and exotic or sexy on the top.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I like it when he says.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It nothing from Stephan, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Nothing. He's checked out. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
He didn't think you deserved it. He heard you and
he paused. He just didn't want to give you the credit.
It's rigged, coming in at number nine of the best
Bond girl names in cinematic history according to Yahoo. As
previously mentioned in one of My favorites, Hollywoodhead from Moonraaker,
(24:14):
Yes the greatest movie.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No no, No.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And that's part of the reason why Roger Moore is
not my favorite Bond because I grew up with the
Roger Moore iteration of Bond movies.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I like The Spy Who Loved Me.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Well, Moon Raker is when they got really, really silly
and they felt like they had to compete with Star Wars,
and so the first half is kind of watchable. You
can bail after that, and nobody told it against you.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, the whole conceived, the whole idea of trying to
save the Earth with this laser thing.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It just it just was not a well written movie.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
No No, But that car, that car was fresh waited Moonraker.
Yeah what car in Moonraker?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Didn't they have the car there was like a Aston Martin.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Are you talking about the one from the Spy Who
Loved Me? It went underwater? Lois Espree Yeah maybe, yeah, Yeah,
that's really cool. And there was a different lotus and
I think for your eyes only, I forgot a different
colored one showed up later on.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now we'll say the Bond.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The Roger Moore Bond movies had the best, uh theme songs,
the Roger Moore once from the Spy Who Loved Me,
not Moonraker.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Moon Raker wasn't bad. I think Shirley Bassie sung that.
And believe it or not, Rida Coolidge's all time high
from an otherwise crappy movie. That's a decent pop song.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh it's not bad, not bad, coming in at number
eight of the best Bond girl names according to Yahoo,
which is weird because Tiffany Case does not beat out
Pussy Galore.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
No.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
No, she's from Diamonds there Forever and uh again, that's
almost just a regular old civilian name. It is.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Don't be wrong, Jill Saint John. But they thought the.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Name was funny according to Yahoo, because it's a Case. Also,
Jill Saint John was kind of Nerd Royalty at that point.
She was in the very first Batman TV episode, Aren't
You just a Walking Encyclopedia?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Please proceed? Number Saynsday.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Live and let dies Solitaire, you know, for live and
let die. I'll take Rosie any day over solitaire. That's
Gloria henry A. She is also a singer, and before
the big COVID lockdown, she did a jazz show here
in La and I went to that and I'll show
you the pictures of me with her. She's still beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Number six and this really really pisses me off, because
don't tell me that this number six is twice as
good as number twelve. Stacy Sutton from a View to
a Kill. It's all about the Bond girl names, not
the performance.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
And also that's when it became so painfully obvious that
Roger Moore could be their father or grandson.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh yeah, and he was checked out too. Yeah. Number five, i'mya,
I'm a Sova, the spy who loved me.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh I'm Asuva.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah whatever, no way, don't Yeah, that's uh. I just
remember Anya Ringo Starr's and wife. Now see, I didn't
know that. I always thought it was a mass over.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Barbara Box. She was beautiful. Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Uh. Number four the best Bond girl names, according to Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Doctor Madeline Swan.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't think so no what no in that specter
and no time to die We're talking about the names,
not even the performance, just the names.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Number three.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
If I say Thunderball Mark, you say Fiona Volpi, correct Dominov.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Oh yeah, Domino. Well there were two women in that movie,
two main women. Fiona died. She did a Thunderball showing
at the New Beverly a few years ago. She let
me hug her. I got to hug elderly Fiona. It's
the same woman though.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Number two of the best bond girl names, according to Yahoo,
Ursula Andres coming out of the Water and the Waves
as honey Rider. Yeah, that's fair. I'll give them that one.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Huhuh.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Now get ready to throw your phone at the wall.
For number one. Do you have any guesses?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
We've already gone through the really nasty ones, so I'm
gonna guess the Countess Teresa de Vincenzo.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Okay, we'll see if you're right. Number one is.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
The best bond girl name, according to Yahoo, is desper
Lynne from the Daniel Craig Era Fair.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
He's got a drink named after her. I know. Look,
I will always be a fan of PG.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Bottom line, this should have been number one without even
seeing the list.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That has to be the best name also, Eva Green
is competitive.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I think as a bond a nice bond lady, we
got to update it, just like the nice exercise.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
They're nice girls, their bond ladies. You gotta remember that
when she comes back.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, this is this is definitely suspect suspect list and
I like, uh, Casino Royale. I liked her, I liked,
I liked. I liked the name vest ber Lenda did
stick with me. Though it did, I just didn't think
it was the top of the list. No, no, maybe
not the top. I mean, PG definitely is up there.
It's hard to disassociate the woman from the name. Yeah,
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because that's why I like mog kept saying the best name,
not the woman, not the girl, not the actress.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
The one from the Moonraaker novel that I want to
see in a film at some point is Gala Brand.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
She's a great character.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
And you've never seen the story of Moonraker yet because
they did that silly one instead of the one that
Ian Fleming wrote.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, I'd still appreciate the love scene and Moonraker floating
with the sheets and everything.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
What's he doing, sir, I think he's attempting re entry.
How did they get away with that, doctor goodhead. I mean,
come on, yeah, come on a little.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
On the nose so speak. Yeah, so it wasn't in
you a mass of a no? What did you say? Enya?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And yeah, all in a mass over ya ya, a
mass of over a mass. That's how I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And before we go, Mark, You honestly are a huge
James Bond fan more than just the movies. You understand
the books, the history, the cultural relevance. Have we seen
the last a Bond for a while, given this fight
over the intellectual property?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I don't know, but I kind of hope that they
take a little break. And I really admire Barbara Broccoli
for calling the people at Amazon. I think it was
f an idiots, Yes, idiots, because they want to just
strip mine it's spin things off and don't treat it
as the really special property it is.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
We could take a break.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
We've had plenty for a while, and it's hard to
decide what to do with it now anyway, because there
was always already the problem of bringing Bond up to
the date, to current times, when you know, Ian Fleming
created him in the early fifties and the character made
sense then during the Cold War and with his treatment
of women and booze and you know, you can go
down the laundry list. But now it's it's kind of
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a tall order to decide what direction to take Bond in,
especially after the Born movies and the Tom Cruise Mission
Impossible movies kind of up the ante on things that
we first saw in James Bond movies. They did it better.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And spycraft, or at least our conception of spycraft, is
very different. It's less about the asset, more about the technology,
and it's not as bang bangs, shoot them up my
way of expressing it, than what we conceived a bit
forty fifty years ago.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Well, Bond was always meant to be pulpy adventures and
not realistic in any way. If you want the realism,
you go for John Lecare and like that Agency show
and the Bureau show that it's based on, the French show,
Bond is pure fantasy from the get go.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I hope, I hope they do get it right.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And if that means to your point, not rushing, waiting
a while, let the franchise, cool Off, get the right actor.
I'm okay with that because even though I'm not the
biggest Bond fan, I enjoy a very good Bond movie.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm willing to wait for a good one me too,
and we haven't had a good one for a while.
The last couple were nearly unwatchable to me. I know
some people liked him, but I didn't mind.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
No Time to Die or Specter for that matter. Really
tell me why excuse me? Skyfall? Skyfall? Likes Skyfall? Well,
people love Skyfall, and I don't. I think it looks terrific,
But why did you like it? Part of it was
it was an homage to what Bond was with the
Aston Martin and how was retrofitted to the classic Bond movies.
(34:03):
In other words, we're acknowledging the past, but they're setting
it in a contemporary setting. Judy Dench just all those things.
I felt like I was watching a genuine Bond movie,
and I enjoyed the fact that we got to learn
something about his childhood and upbringing and why he was
an orphan and what sort of shaped him in a
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psychological way.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, that was all made up crap that they just
added that had nothing to do with the character as
we know him, and I thought it really took away
a lot of the mystique from Bond. I mean, you
got to remember that Bond really isn't a nice guy,
and there's probably something severely wrong with him on top
of that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But see, that's what I liked it, because they showed
him as a frail alcoholic whose skills were declining because
of his alcoholism, couldn't shoot straight, all of those things.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah, And I think all that did was just make
him seem ordinary. I don't want to know about the
repercussions of Bond's alcoholism. I want to see him order
a drink and enjoy it and leave the rest of
that stuff for a lesser character.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
All right, then, well you could if you add something
or take something away, you're gonna have to add something.
If you take away the womanizing, for example, and you
take away that facet of the character, then you're gonna
have to add something else.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
We need to know something about his backstore. We need
to know.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I think that's why Casino Royale was so good
for me, because you got to see in the subsequent
movies why he never had a legitimate relationship with anyone,
because the first time he opens up and actually falls
in love with someone, as far as we know Casino Royale,
she betrays him.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, and that last line of the novel, I had
kind of hoped the movie would end there. And it's
not a spoiler. The last line of Ian Fleming's nineteen
fifty three Casino Royale is the bitch is dead. He's
talking about Vesper Lynn and then they tack on this
whole overblown building in Venice, sinking set piece. Thing goes
on forever and ever. I thought there was a lot
(36:03):
to love about Casino Royal, but it just as it ages,
it strikes me it's just way too much.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't think there's a better poker scene than in
that iteration of Casino Royale. It's one of my favorite
movie moments when he's sitting down there and you know it,
basically Bond gets his ass well the first time. Yeah,
the arrogance of the moment, and he can't see it.
He thought he had Matt's Michelson, he thought he had him.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
It takes a really good writer and director to make
card playing tense and interesting, and they really have you
on the edge of you or seat with that, and
it was also kind of gutsy to change it. I
think they played Texas hold him, Yes he did. They
played Texas hold him. Clearly. Bond never plays Texas hold
him in any of the books that I can recall.
He plays Bakara, he plays I think he plays jenm
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brings him to a club, and I think it's Moonraker.
But you know, that was one update that I didn't
mind at all, that that scene was really tense.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Texas Holdham is.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yes, that's what people are playing contemporary, that's what people
are playing. It made perfect sense. But I hope we
get to see a true to form Bond movie in
the next five years or so. And yes, they got
to get the right actor, but they also got to
get the right story.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
And by the way, one thing to keep in mind
is that he's not supposed to be good at this stuff,
and that pisss off his bosses. He's not supposed to
have these upper crust tastes. He's a civil servant, and
it makes everybody above him annoyed that he knows all
these wines and their vintages and all this kind of stuff.
James Bond is not an aristocrat. He's a guy who
(37:39):
thinks he could die, and when he does, he doesn't
want a penny left in his bank account.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
But in Casino Royale on the Train they delve into that.
They talk about his backstory. Who are like, you wear
the fancy suits. I'm paraphrasing, you wear the fancy suits,
but you almost have disdain for what they represent.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, And the thing is, as much as I like
Ava Green, I don't need Bond psychoanalyzed on the screen
in front of me either, because we can infer all
that about him. Character is displayed through actions, not clunky
exposition like that, Well.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You're just wrong and I'm right, damn it.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
On that Year News without the skew k F I
KOs T HD two.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And have you watched Squid Game Season two yet on Netflix?
I benched it all in a day and a half.
It's a shorter season. It won't take you much time.
I think it's seven episodes, and that is somewhat disappointing
if you get used to nine or thirteen episode seasons
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of a TV show can be disappointing. But these are
all at least an hour, so you're gonna get a
good seven hours of content for season two. I said
before my short review was you have to see season one.
It leads directly into season two. It tells you everything
you need to know going into season two. If you
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think you can pick it up at the beginning of
season two, it will be a waste of time. You
have to see season one in its entirety, or season
two is not gonna make any sense at all.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That said, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I didn't like how the season ended, and I don't
want to give it away, but it felt like if
you saw the Matrix trilogy at the end of the
Matrix reloaded, it ended at a very odd point. It
ended at a at a at a high point as
far as action was concerned, Squid Game Season two does
(01:28):
something very similar. Okay, have you seen it yet, Stephan,
I haven't finished it, but just going off what you're saying.
Because they knew that there's going to be a third one,
right which they have recently announced. Yea, it is definitely
coming this year. In fact, they dropped a teaser. It
(01:50):
doesn't have any real sound of were. Yeah, They've already
dropped a teaser for season three.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And I'm the only one who saw it. Is this
new season worth it?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So far as my problem is this the way Squid
Game ended. The first Squid Game ended. It ended in
a way that I said to myself, Okay, once it
got out of the Squid Game and it got into
trying to discover, you know, the secrets behind and the
guys that I want to stop, I was like, Okay,
I'm only interested in the game.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They got that for you, They got that for you.
They are pulling more of those threads. As far as
who is the sinister force behind the game, what needs
to be done, well, let me put it this way.
The beginning of season two puts you it's like three
year time jump, and Song, who's the principal character. He's
(02:44):
using all of his prize money that he won in
season one to facilitate finding out who.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Is behind all of this. And I'm not going to
tell you how he.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Goes about it, but they're showing you all the steps
that he's taking. And long story short, he finds that
his methods are not working, so he has to.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Gobut traffic.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, okay, and so it's yes, I highly recommend it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I just didn't like where they stopped it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I would have rather, let's say, season three is also
seven episodes.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I would have rather seen the fourteen than just a seven.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I would have waited the extra seven eight months into
twenty twenty five and just got the whole story instead
of just part two of the story.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But I get it. It's a hit.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's set a Netflix record. I'm only one episode end,
but I I forgot how you described it. You just
just great job of describing Squid Game season two. But
season two, because you were talking about, oh, how are
they gonna discuss the shock factor and the game and
(03:57):
all this stuff, they kind of rivity, They kind of
got away from that, like they just focused on the
characters and in the beginning of season two, in the beginning, yes, yeah, yeah,
And I think that is key because it's like you
already know the game if you were if you haven't
(04:17):
seen it.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Ah, but you think you know the game, but you
don't know the Yeah. See, I'm only one that there
there are. Yeah, there are a lot of misdirections.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And you think X is going to happen because you think,
because you've seen season one, you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, you don't, No, you don't. Uh. They got some
surprises for you.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
You should know that if you're just going into this,
it's not like tuning in for another season of Survivor
or something. They throw some new wrinkles at this, including
one of my favorite tropes in fiction, which is the
guy who could get away free and clear, deciding of
his own free will to go back into danger because
it's something he feels like he has to do.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, that's an apt description. It's almost like you've seen it.
I've got one episode to go. Okay, Okay, I've seen
six of the seven. Yeah, all right, so I know
exactly where you are. It just ended for me at
a very inopportune moment. Not that I wanted more, but
they really like they left you hanging. They really left
(05:19):
you hanging, like more than the first season, more than
the first season, because at least the first season, you
knew how the game was going to turn out. Let
me ask you, Mobe They okay, the creator said that
he was never going to make a second season, but
when you get to the end of the first one,
(05:40):
there is no way that there couldn't be a second.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Absolutely, But they do listen to people like Tuala saying like, hey,
I care about the game, I don't care about the
stuff around the game. And Mark knows this. They got
something for you. They've got something for you. There's a
reason why they're telling to Mark's point, there's a reason
why they're telling a story that you'll see Stephan in
(06:06):
the first two episodes, I think, and then it really
picks up speed in episode three.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
I think it's really smartly done and I like it
better than the first season.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think that's fair.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And if you know the first season as far as well,
let's be honest, how violent it was, Season two is
far more violent.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
It's far more for you serious, Oh yes, oh wow
for a mainstream TV series that I think the last
number I saw was sixty eight million people had watched
it so far, and that was a couple of days ago,
so it's much bigger now. The violence is really no,
it's not cartoonish. It's violence like ooh.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Ooh, it's like, oh oh my gosh. Stop. Yeah, nothing
is off limits. Okay, Yeah, I'm excited now. Yeah, I'm
one upset of it. It's really good. It's it's really
well done. Yeah. Oh okay, So we talked about this before.
I want to circle back to it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, are you watching it in Korean or English? I'm
I'm watching it in Korean. However, it's it's funny that
you brought that up. There were like two season two
scenes that I that I watched. I watched it all
the way through Korean with the subtitles, and then I
went back and watched it with the English dub. And
(07:26):
to Mark and to Walla's point, you don't really miss
a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
It's just the slang. M that's kind of what you
miss out on. Yeah. Well, when it's in English, you
get nothing but American slag.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's like, okay, they had to have changed the dialogue
to fit American ears in English audiences. Yeah, you know
the profanity which is being used as like okay, that's
a that's.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
An English formulation. Yeah, you know, what do you say
like m f R.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's like, oh, okay, I don't know that actually translates
to Korean, but I got the idea.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Jive blanking again.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, it's the supporting cast I believe is stronger than
season one. They're more defined personality season one. You know
they have like the bully, the gangster. Yeah, they have
more personalities in this one. And for me, I can't
speak for Mark. For me, I felt attached to more
(08:26):
than just the main character.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
They do a good job that the people who wrote
this and created it understand that that's your way in
is by people. It's not just about, you know, the
game and the killing and the reward. It's about getting
you involved in the story of these people who are
so desperate that they take up this challenge to begin with.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And it makes sense, it's believable, and as you go
through season two's talking about the psychology of people, why
they do what they do, and what motivates them to
make the decisions that they do.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Which make no sense to us, the non.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Desperate, and it is so on point with current events
that you'd have to be blind not to notice the similarities,
especially when they vote between the games whether or not
to proceed. And so you've got one side that wants
to do the safe, rational, intelligent thing and the other
side that wants to do the insane, self destructive thing,
(09:23):
and there's no reasoning with them, and then all the
conversations and fights that come about as a result of
all that. It's I think it's pretty absorbing. Yeah, it's
it's very layered.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It's sometimes it may be a little too smart for
its own good, where to Mark's point, they may not.
People may not get all the subtleties and the let's
be honest, the messages which the show is imparting. But
it's it's worth a watch to well, definitely worth the watch.
It's Late with mo Kelly. When we come back, we
want to talk about the movies that we're most looking
forward to here in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six four CAFI.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Mo Kelly had a conversation with Wayne Resnick today, who
was in for Bill Handle And by the way, Wayne
announced his retirement from radio today. Tomorrow's going to be
his last day on CAFI. Yeah, except from for Real.
Caught a lot of people off guard. But in our
conversation we were talking about the movies and the movie industry
(10:23):
as far as how movie theaters are doing. And the
main takeaway is, and we've discussed it here, that people
are less choosing the movie theater because look, let's be honest,
I didn't see Wicked in theaters, and I know it's
available on streaming right now. Movies don't stay in theaters
depending on how old you are. If you go back
(10:44):
to the nineteen eighties, you can take a movie like
The Karate Kid that was in theaters about six months
and then you had to wait, I don't know, another
six months before it came out on video, whatever version
of video that was available back then. I think it
was like, yeah, I think we had the beta at
that point, an all TV select Take any movie. Because
(11:07):
I'm a little bit younger than you guys, but take
any movie. It felt like it was in theaters for
six months easily, and then you had to wait.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Another three or four months to get it on VHS.
Yeah for me.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And part of the reason you knew that if you
didn't see it in theaters, you were not going to
see it. Now you may not have seen it immediately,
and back then you had the chance for movies to
swell as far as a word of mouth, Hey, you
gotta go see this, you gotta go see that, and
you had time to see something.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Now, if you don't see it in the first two weeks,
it may be gone.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But that's okay, it'll be on streaming shortly thereafter. I
just saw Gladiator too two nights ago on streaming.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I just bought Wicked. I bought Wicked. We watched it
over the weekend. Could not believe that a Gladiator two
was already availed. How long has that been? Less than
a month? Less than a month exactly, and it feels
like five minutes. And to reinforce the point, after I
saw it, it's like, yeah, I'm glad I didn't see
this in theaters.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I had to go to wickeed and are still in
theaters and they'll still play, I know, but you don't
have to watch them in theaters.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Long story short, that was our conversation and I also
said movie studios are going with the bankable commodities. That's
why you're going to see an s load of sequels,
reboots and remakes for twenty twenty five, because they have
to make money. You have to have a built in
audience which is going to see these movies in the one, two.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Three weeks tops that they're in an actual theater.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You gotta see it early or not at all as
far as this theater is concerned.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Here's some of the like.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
For example, these are just some of the sequels, reboots
and remakes which are coming out this year. Wallace and Grommet, Vengeance,
Most Foul, There's Bridgie Jones, Mad About the Boy, Captain America,
Brave New World. This is sequels, reboots and remakes. Paddington
and Peru. I don't care to see it, but someone does. Yeah,
(13:11):
Snow White live Action. I'm not going to see it,
but someone will. This one I do. Mark, you may
want to see this as well. The Accountant to.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You know, the first Accountant movie really wasn't bad at all.
It was action film well with Ben Affleck.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
He plays a neurodivergent accountant by day for the Mob
and also Assassin kind of like Jason Bourne meets rain Man.
That's the only way I can describe it. Perfect, perfect discression.
And it's a really really good movie. So if you
haven't seen the first one, which came out in twenty sixteen,
check it out. Because a sequel is coming out, and
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this is basically because of fan appreciation. Fans were just
asking for the sequel. They had no intention of making it.
It's just a fans were just clamoring for it. It's
coming out on April twenty fifth. Got The Thunder which
is coming out on May second, and that's you can say,
a sequel to Black Widow. And also The Falcon and
Winter Soldiers sits in a continuation of a story.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, that looks really fun. It does. It really does.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Lelo and Stitch live action version. I don't know how
that's gonna work. The character looks good, the animation on
the character looks good.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I'm not gonna see it. I mean it's not for you,
but yeah, that's true, mission impossible.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The final RECOGNI I can't wait, I can I can
I streaming?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, you have got to see the distusts that he's
doing this.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
He's going out major you know.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We need to see Tom Cruise risk his life, and
I'm going to watch every mission impossible from the beginning
leading up to it because there are a lot of
threads that they're going to tie off in old storylines.
They're gonna do all that, so I want to make
sure that all the stuff is fresh in my mind.
They have Karate Kid Legends May thirtieth, Now, this is
(14:57):
one twalla. I would love to get your input on
How to Train Your Dragon live action.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Okay, I was not a huge, huge fan of How
to Train Your Dragon or any of the subsequent animated
sequels or anything that happened on the television show, but
I know it has a strong audience.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, twenty eight years later, I'll probably see that.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
That looks really good too. The trailer is surprisingly effective.
They've already made two of them. You think you know
everything that's going to happen, but just frames of the
trailer look really well, are directed.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I'll rewatch the first two so I'm up to
date for the third one. There's Megan two point zero
that has a huge following coming out June twenty seventh,
and something interesting about this. We have a lot of
horror vampire wear wolf movies all in the winter, not
like it's waiting for Halloween. They're coming out now in
the early portion of the new year. That's because Martin
(15:58):
some's go see and report onctly.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Right, we need more were wolf movies. Uh, Lee Wannall
is doing one of them, right? Is that wolf Man
Wolf like a Wolf? There was a Frank Gorilla Werewolves
that didn't do well. That's already been out and I
wanted to see that already out. Yeah, that's gonna be
streaming anytime now check your watch. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
There's one sequel that I have no desire to see,
and I say this as a fan of the franchise,
and that's Jurassic World Rebirth. There are only so many
stories that you can tell about dinosaurs getting loose and
eating people, and you know you shouldn't have done it
in the first place.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
And Relet Johansson, I'm sorry. This is brand new and
it's got Scarlett Johannes.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I heard that. I just don't know if there's
any new story to tell. The dinosaurs of the Star
they're gonna kill people, and I don't know if I'm
in the minority, but I saw the first one and
I was so disappointed. The reboot the Jurassic World, Yeah,
I just I saw it with my ex and she's like,
(17:02):
it wasn't that bad, but she had a crush on
Chris Pratt felt I just I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I was like, no, they had a chance.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
When they brought back the cast of Jurassic Park, Sam Neil,
I was excited for I was too.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
And a.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You know, he screwed the pooch on that one. You're
better off without that woman. Fush not lee. Uh. They're
Superman obviously, the James Gunn movie, which probably is the
movie of the year as far as anticipation. That's July eleventh,
and they're doing a remake to The Naked gun I
(17:38):
don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
With Liam Neeson, right, Yeah, I don't know how I
feel about that. Poor guy.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
How old film to just crash and burn? What's his age?
He's seventy something. I don't know how old Leslie Nielsen was.
He's not funny.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Funny, Yeah, he's not funny about that guy.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The Bad Guys too, An, I didn't see The Bad
Guys one, you know that. That's when I actually wanted
to ask you about mo because it didn't get a
lot of hype. Nope, but it got a sequel. So
do they do good in the box office. I have
to look it up. But most of the animated films
do well enough. There's enough of an audience where if
(18:21):
you don't spend one hundred and fifty million, you can
you can make money off these animated features.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, it did, know it did. That was the dream
worst picture. It did really good. I know what you
did last summer. Oh my gosh again.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, here's this movie. I do want to see it
as coming up on January seventeenth. It's called Presence and
it's a ghost story from the ghosts perspective. For me,
it reminds me of a movie called The Others, which
starred Nicole Kidman. Yes, you didn't know that you were
watching a ghost story. Sorry to give it away, but
(18:53):
at the movie's twenty four years old, you didn't know
you were watching a ghost story from the ghost perspective.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But that was the real That was the veal at
the end of the movie. This is explicit.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Hey, this is a ghost story from the ghostplace from Soderberg. Yes, yes, uh,
that's coming out on January seventeenth. I do want to
see Sinners, which is March seventh. That's my b Jordan.
He returns to his childhood home and finds vampires there.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
That trailer is phenomenal. I like new ideas, Don't get
me wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I love my sequels and reboots, but I love it
when you're telling a real different story, and that looks
like it could be a really good vampire story.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I mean it's it's Macaby Jordan and Ryan Coogler. Again,
they have a history of nothing but hit, so I'm there.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Jamie Fox is back punt intended in Back in Action
with dillazlixlix.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Oh okay, well it might even be streaming already. I'm
not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I mean it is January seventeenth, Okay, yeah you can.
You can rent it tomorrow probably, Okay, Mark, is there
anything that you're looking forward to before we go to break?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Well?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
You mentioned Soderbergh. He's got another one coming out. I
think it's called Black Bag. It's a spy film with Fastbender,
who is also in that agency show that you and
I are both watching right now.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
But I might be just simple like this, but I
watched just about everything with Michael Fastpender in it.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
He's terrific and if he were a little younger, he
would have made a good James Bond.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
He would what is he like? Late forties down.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I guess, and the Bond of the books is in
his mid to late thirties.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, he looks the part. Parts like the part.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
He has enough screen charisma for the part, but we'll
never see him. It's almost like I remember what Pierce
bros And he was like on the older end of
the spectrum for the role.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
As I remember, he just looked like a male model.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
To me, who's ass you could kick without trying real
hard if you grew up loving Sean Connery and then
even Roger Moore, Pierce Brosen wasn't going to do it
for you.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
But look I liked him better than Timothy Dalton.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Point of contention, Yeah, I wasn't a big Dalton fan,
but a lot of the fans love him.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's interesting you say that because when we come back,
we're going to talk about the twelve Bond girl names
ranked according to Yahoo.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
A six forty saw this on Yahoo. They listed the
top twelve Bond girl names ranked, and we're probably going
to disagree. And we know that James bonded bond girls
kind of an antiquated terminology.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I call them bond.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Girls because that's what they were called back then. Yes,
they're bond women. Not trying to disparage, just sitting some
context and parameters for this. But Yahoo ranked them from
least best to best. So we're starting at the bottom
and working our way up, coming in at number twelve
(21:53):
of the top Bond girls of all time, according to Yahoo,
and I expect commentary from Mark Ronner after each one.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Wait, can clarification please?
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Are these are the top bond girl names or top
Bond girls names?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Okay, it just says names here, Yeah, just the names.
The Bond girl names ranked Number twelve is pussy Galore.
How is that not number one? I have no idea.
I mean, you can't get any better than that. I
mean you've got Holly Goodhead, but that's not as funny.
Where do you go from there?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, you don't want to know. We got a long
listes So.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Ms Galore is twelfth on this list. This list is
already invalid. Who did this? List Yahoo.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah you think it was variety, You would think you
would think, Yeah, ms Galore. Not only was it a
great name, but it was a great character, actress performance,
all of that.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
The rold in the.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Hay Oh Yeah, Honor Blackman was a goddess, coming in
at number eleven of the best Bond girl names according
to Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Sylvia Trench.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
That's just a regular civilian name. What are they doing?
From Doctor No and from Russia with Love? Yeah, she
just shows up at the beginning of Russia with Love.
You wouldn't even know it's her, played by Eunice Gayson. Yeah,
she just died recently, coming in at number ten of
the best Bond girl names according to Yahoo.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I didn't like the movie GoldenEye, but the name was
Xenia on the Top.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
I think that was a real reach. They were trying
too hard with Xenia on a Top, right. Yeah, they're
just trying to.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Make up syllables and throw them together and make it
sound weird and exotic or sexy on the top.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I like it when he says.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
It nothing from Stephan, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Nothing. He's checked out. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
He didn't think you deserved it. He heard you and
he paused. He just didn't want to give you the credit.
It's rigged, coming in at number nine of the best
Bond girl names in cinematic history according to Yahoo. As
previously mentioned in one of My favorites, Hollywoodhead from Moonraaker,
(24:14):
Yes the greatest movie.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No no, No.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And that's part of the reason why Roger Moore is
not my favorite Bond because I grew up with the
Roger Moore iteration of Bond movies.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I like The Spy Who Loved Me.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Well, Moon Raker is when they got really, really silly
and they felt like they had to compete with Star Wars,
and so the first half is kind of watchable. You
can bail after that, and nobody told it against you.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, the whole conceived, the whole idea of trying to
save the Earth with this laser thing.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It just it just was not a well written movie.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
No No, But that car, that car was fresh waited Moonraker.
Yeah what car in Moonraker?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Didn't they have the car there was like a Aston Martin.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Are you talking about the one from the Spy Who
Loved Me? It went underwater? Lois Espree Yeah maybe, yeah, Yeah,
that's really cool. And there was a different lotus and
I think for your eyes only, I forgot a different
colored one showed up later on.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now we'll say the Bond.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The Roger Moore Bond movies had the best, uh theme songs,
the Roger Moore once from the Spy Who Loved Me,
not Moonraker.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Moon Raker wasn't bad. I think Shirley Bassie sung that.
And believe it or not, Rida Coolidge's all time high
from an otherwise crappy movie. That's a decent pop song.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Oh it's not bad, not bad, coming in at number
eight of the best Bond girl names according to Yahoo,
which is weird because Tiffany Case does not beat out
Pussy Galore.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
No.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
No, she's from Diamonds there Forever and uh again, that's
almost just a regular old civilian name. It is.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Don't be wrong, Jill Saint John. But they thought the.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Name was funny according to Yahoo, because it's a Case. Also,
Jill Saint John was kind of Nerd Royalty at that point.
She was in the very first Batman TV episode, Aren't
You just a Walking Encyclopedia?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Please proceed? Number Saynsday.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Live and let dies Solitaire, you know, for live and
let die. I'll take Rosie any day over solitaire. That's
Gloria henry A. She is also a singer, and before
the big COVID lockdown, she did a jazz show here
in La and I went to that and I'll show
you the pictures of me with her. She's still beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Number six and this really really pisses me off, because
don't tell me that this number six is twice as
good as number twelve. Stacy Sutton from a View to
a Kill. It's all about the Bond girl names, not
the performance.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
And also that's when it became so painfully obvious that
Roger Moore could be their father or grandson.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh yeah, and he was checked out too. Yeah. Number five, i'mya,
I'm a Sova, the spy who loved me.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oh I'm Asuva.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Yeah whatever, no way, don't Yeah, that's uh. I just
remember Anya Ringo Starr's and wife. Now see, I didn't
know that. I always thought it was a mass over.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Barbara Box. She was beautiful. Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Uh. Number four the best Bond girl names, according to Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Doctor Madeline Swan.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't think so no what no in that specter
and no time to die We're talking about the names,
not even the performance, just the names.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Number three.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
If I say Thunderball Mark, you say Fiona Volpi, correct Dominov.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Oh yeah, Domino. Well there were two women in that movie,
two main women. Fiona died. She did a Thunderball showing
at the New Beverly a few years ago. She let
me hug her. I got to hug elderly Fiona. It's
the same woman though.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Number two of the best bond girl names, according to Yahoo,
Ursula Andres coming out of the Water and the Waves
as honey Rider. Yeah, that's fair. I'll give them that one.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Huhuh.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Now get ready to throw your phone at the wall.
For number one. Do you have any guesses?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
We've already gone through the really nasty ones, so I'm
gonna guess the Countess Teresa de Vincenzo.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Okay, we'll see if you're right. Number one is.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
The best bond girl name, according to Yahoo, is desper
Lynne from the Daniel Craig Era Fair.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
He's got a drink named after her. I know. Look,
I will always be a fan of PG.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Bottom line, this should have been number one without even
seeing the list.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That has to be the best name also, Eva Green
is competitive.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
I think as a bond a nice bond lady, we
got to update it, just like the nice exercise.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
They're nice girls, their bond ladies. You gotta remember that
when she comes back.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, this is this is definitely suspect suspect list and
I like, uh, Casino Royale. I liked her, I liked,
I liked. I liked the name vest ber Lenda did
stick with me. Though it did, I just didn't think
it was the top of the list. No, no, maybe
not the top. I mean, PG definitely is up there.
It's hard to disassociate the woman from the name. Yeah,
(30:20):
because that's why I like mog kept saying the best name,
not the woman, not the girl, not the actress.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
The one from the Moonraaker novel that I want to
see in a film at some point is Gala Brand.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
She's a great character.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
And you've never seen the story of Moonraker yet because
they did that silly one instead of the one that
Ian Fleming wrote.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Well, I'd still appreciate the love scene and Moonraker floating
with the sheets and everything.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
What's he doing, sir, I think he's attempting re entry.
How did they get away with that, doctor goodhead. I mean,
come on, yeah, come on a little.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
On the nose so speak. Yeah, so it wasn't in
you a mass of a no? What did you say? Enya?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And yeah, all in a mass over ya ya, a
mass of over a mass. That's how I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
And before we go, Mark, You honestly are a huge
James Bond fan more than just the movies. You understand
the books, the history, the cultural relevance. Have we seen
the last a Bond for a while, given this fight
over the intellectual property?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I don't know, but I kind of hope that they
take a little break. And I really admire Barbara Broccoli
for calling the people at Amazon. I think it was
f an idiots, Yes, idiots, because they want to just
strip mine it's spin things off and don't treat it
as the really special property it is.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
We could take a break.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
We've had plenty for a while, and it's hard to
decide what to do with it now anyway, because there
was always already the problem of bringing Bond up to
the date, to current times, when you know, Ian Fleming
created him in the early fifties and the character made
sense then during the Cold War and with his treatment
of women and booze and you know, you can go
down the laundry list. But now it's it's kind of
(32:26):
a tall order to decide what direction to take Bond in,
especially after the Born movies and the Tom Cruise Mission
Impossible movies kind of up the ante on things that
we first saw in James Bond movies. They did it better.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And spycraft, or at least our conception of spycraft, is
very different. It's less about the asset, more about the technology,
and it's not as bang bangs, shoot them up my
way of expressing it, than what we conceived a bit
forty fifty years ago.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Well, Bond was always meant to be pulpy adventures and
not realistic in any way. If you want the realism,
you go for John Lecare and like that Agency show
and the Bureau show that it's based on, the French show,
Bond is pure fantasy from the get go.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I hope, I hope they do get it right.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And if that means to your point, not rushing, waiting
a while, let the franchise, cool Off, get the right actor.
I'm okay with that because even though I'm not the
biggest Bond fan, I enjoy a very good Bond movie.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm willing to wait for a good one me too,
and we haven't had a good one for a while.
The last couple were nearly unwatchable to me. I know
some people liked him, but I didn't mind.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
No Time to Die or Specter for that matter. Really
tell me why excuse me? Skyfall? Skyfall? Likes Skyfall? Well,
people love Skyfall, and I don't. I think it looks terrific,
But why did you like it? Part of it was
it was an homage to what Bond was with the
Aston Martin and how was retrofitted to the classic Bond movies.
(34:03):
In other words, we're acknowledging the past, but they're setting
it in a contemporary setting. Judy Dench just all those things.
I felt like I was watching a genuine Bond movie,
and I enjoyed the fact that we got to learn
something about his childhood and upbringing and why he was
an orphan and what sort of shaped him in a
(34:24):
psychological way.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Yeah, that was all made up crap that they just
added that had nothing to do with the character as
we know him, and I thought it really took away
a lot of the mystique from Bond. I mean, you
got to remember that Bond really isn't a nice guy,
and there's probably something severely wrong with him on top
of that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But see, that's what I liked it, because they showed
him as a frail alcoholic whose skills were declining because
of his alcoholism, couldn't shoot straight, all of those things.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah, And I think all that did was just make
him seem ordinary. I don't want to know about the
repercussions of Bond's alcoholism. I want to see him order
a drink and enjoy it and leave the rest of
that stuff for a lesser character.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
All right, then, well you could if you add something
or take something away, you're gonna have to add something.
If you take away the womanizing, for example, and you
take away that facet of the character, then you're gonna
have to add something else.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
We need to know something about his backstore. We need
to know.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I think that's why Casino Royale was so good
for me, because you got to see in the subsequent
movies why he never had a legitimate relationship with anyone,
because the first time he opens up and actually falls
in love with someone, as far as we know Casino Royale,
she betrays him.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, and that last line of the novel, I had
kind of hoped the movie would end there. And it's
not a spoiler. The last line of Ian Fleming's nineteen
fifty three Casino Royale is the bitch is dead. He's
talking about Vesper Lynn and then they tack on this
whole overblown building in Venice, sinking set piece. Thing goes
on forever and ever. I thought there was a lot
(36:03):
to love about Casino Royal, but it just as it ages,
it strikes me it's just way too much.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I don't think there's a better poker scene than in
that iteration of Casino Royale. It's one of my favorite
movie moments when he's sitting down there and you know it,
basically Bond gets his ass well the first time. Yeah,
the arrogance of the moment, and he can't see it.
He thought he had Matt's Michelson, he thought he had him.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
It takes a really good writer and director to make
card playing tense and interesting, and they really have you
on the edge of you or seat with that, and
it was also kind of gutsy to change it. I
think they played Texas hold him, Yes he did. They
played Texas hold him. Clearly. Bond never plays Texas hold
him in any of the books that I can recall.
He plays Bakara, he plays I think he plays jenm
(36:53):
brings him to a club, and I think it's Moonraker.
But you know, that was one update that I didn't
mind at all, that that scene was really tense.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Texas Holdham is.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yes, that's what people are playing contemporary, that's what people
are playing. It made perfect sense. But I hope we
get to see a true to form Bond movie in
the next five years or so. And yes, they got
to get the right actor, but they also got to
get the right story.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
And by the way, one thing to keep in mind
is that he's not supposed to be good at this stuff,
and that pisss off his bosses. He's not supposed to
have these upper crust tastes. He's a civil servant, and
it makes everybody above him annoyed that he knows all
these wines and their vintages and all this kind of stuff.
James Bond is not an aristocrat. He's a guy who
(37:39):
thinks he could die, and when he does, he doesn't
want a penny left in his bank account.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
But in Casino Royale on the Train they delve into that.
They talk about his backstory. Who are like, you wear
the fancy suits. I'm paraphrasing, you wear the fancy suits,
but you almost have disdain for what they represent.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yeah, And the thing is, as much as I like
Ava Green, I don't need Bond psychoanalyzed on the screen
in front of me either, because we can infer all
that about him. Character is displayed through actions, not clunky
exposition like that, Well.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You're just wrong and I'm right, damn it.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
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