March 28, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A in-depth look at the Signal messaging app AND how to save your DNA data from 23andme before it's sold on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – Thoughts on the CIA being in possession of the actual ‘Ark of the Covenant’ AND an extra-credit TV viewing assignment with Foosh’s review of the record setting Netflix limited series ‘Adolescence’- on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's a letter with Mo Kelly and Marshall Callier on
this Tech Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Marshall Callier, let's dispense with the pleasantries because we got
to get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Signal.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Signal, Signal, it's the I will say, a portion of
the biggest story in the world. Most people may not
have known about signal. What is it beyond obviously some
sort of communication.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I thought it was some sort of religious thing for personally,
I didn't really know. But since we know about signal,
and one of the things people don't know is what
is encryption and ed encrypt? Well, what's encrypt mean? Well,
there are different kinds of encryption, but in this case,
(00:49):
I'm sure you've heard of end to end encryption, yes,
which Gmail supposedly does, right, and Signal does that with
your texts, as does WhatsApp, as does Telegram.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Uh so it's not uncommon.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
But you can have man in the middle attacks and
a man in the middle attack, just like when somebody
can come up to your house and sees your Wi
Fi system, so they can rob you and your alarm
won't go off. People can intercept your phone and get
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all the information.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But you know no, go ahead, go ahead, Please continue.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But we had a solution to this which I don't
understand frankly, and we'll talk about the Signal company and Milte.
There was BlackBerry, yes, if you remember, President Obama used
BlackBerry till the end.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, hold that thought, because I want to play
this clip which kind of highlights where I think you're going.
And this is Chris Pearson, who is the CEO of
black Cloak, and he makes this distinct that I want
you to elaborate on.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So listen to this. Please.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
A text message that you send between yourself and your parents,
your brothers, your friends, that is pretty much akin to
sending a postcard. Writing the information on a postcard that
everyone can see in the mail. Not going to be
secure if you have to transmit that information to family member,
social Security number, other information there and you want to
use in cryptocommunication.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Signal is going to be an.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Application of a choice, but it is a consumer based application.
The real issue here is that for sensitive or classified
information that is being used by and transmitted by the government,
that number one, the devices must be protected, and number two,
the application and the transmission.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Of the data must be protected.
Speaker 8 (02:43):
Just simply using an encrypted app that is only consumer
grade on a personal device is actually going to open
up the United States and others to forums, fine hacking,
and other risks.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What I want to know is he makes a distinction
between encrypt the data, which you just talked about, and
also the device protection. What does he mean by that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well, the data encryption and device encryption in a device,
it encrypts the storage on the device, which we have.
Actually currently Windows has a built in program, as does
Apple file Vault on Apple, but those are full device encryption.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Now, what Signal.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Does is it takes the data, encrypts it, in other words,
turns it into gibberis. So if somebody did intercept that,
they wouldn't be able to make sense of it. And
that's a call or a text and once it lands
on their servers because it has to land on a
server for it to bounce back to somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So okay, so you can't necessarily hack Signal that data transfer, right,
But I get the sense that like a personal device,
since we're talking about government, may be more susceptible to
being attacked.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well, have you ever seen something and that's called millspeck
when you're looking for a case for your phone or
a battery. MILLSPEC means military specifications. Okay, okay, there are
grades of security. I don't know how many there are.
But just just like Resident Obama was told stop using BlackBerry,
(04:25):
it's a danger. Why is that because it wasn't millspec.
It wasn't strong enough. You see, you can have a
rope that's a quarter of an inch thick. You can
have a rope that's great analogy four inches thick, and
there's your difference. It's a lot harder to saw through
that four inch thick rope. So that's your real difference.
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It's a high level of security. And if your disc
is encrypted where you store the sensitive information, it'll prevent
unauthorized access, got it.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
So they can't be hacked.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
They you see, there's other softwares involved here too that
are protecting we'll say the hard drive, but that's a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So people understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, basically the hard drive and keeping the data in
gibberish should anybody break it through. But if you've got millspeck,
if you've got which brings to the whole thing, why
does not our US government? Since BlackBerry had these great products,
(05:30):
and we know Signal and Signal is a five oh
one three c charitable foundation. They're in data and their
data of programming is free for anyone to use to
develop new software.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Or deconstruct and reverse engineer too.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I would imagine, yes you can, but I mean they
take donations.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I checked it. It's owned by the Signal Foundation.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
So when it comes to all of this gone to space,
for heaven's sake, why can't we put together an app
that's used for governments.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Karen Bass would be real happy if we had one
of those.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I mean all levels of government. It should be what
our government uses to talk to each other, period, and
it should automatically record their texts and their calls so
that the record is kept, as you know, technically must
be kept.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because of the Federal Records Act. And that's what you
touch upon. But I'm guessing I don't know. I suspect
that people are using Signal because they don't want a
record of everything that they're community.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Exactly, and that's true.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You can use telegram and WhatsApp, like I said, but still,
when you're talking about military, when you're talking about thousands
of lives at stake, when you're talking about bombing and
sinking ships, you really really better put down the dollars
to put together real software. And honestly, since we have
such a base of excellent software, now I can tell
(07:09):
you I'm sure that there is something, but it should
be distributed to all government agencies.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or let me ask you this the possibility it does
already exist that level of encrypted software which will protect
not only the communication but the device.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
But individuals have chosen not to use it.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Well, you see that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
It's like we talk about our elected people. How many
of them ever ran a business? Do they know how
to run a budget? I don't know that they know
how to run a device, even a phone that has
to send out a ping to translate.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't think they have to know. I'm quite sure
they're instructed.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm quite sure there are protocols that are put in place,
such as don't use your own personal device to communicate
sensitive information, which way know is a variable in this discussion.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Absolutely, but they don't know. I mean if you remember
any of the congressional hearings or the Senate hearings when
they ask questions no offense. I'm sure they're really nice
people in our elected government, but they don't know jack
about tech tech. I mean kind of having somebody like
(08:22):
Elon Good or Bad can at least teach them some
sort of tech or his people can teach them something
that's going to make our country safer and better for everybody.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Because yea spies.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But we know, and you're someone who's traveled the world.
You have been to China. You know about their capabilities
and their intentions. Security doesn't mean much if not everyone.
For example, let me make it real basic and easy
for people to understand. You can have the best lock
in the world on your house, but if you leave
the door unlocks when you walk out, it doesn't make
a lot of difference.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
But again, like I said, Millspeck consumer grade. There's a
guy who can walk up to your house and shut
your WiFi down with a one hundred and ninety nine
dollars device.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's consumer grade.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But they're telling you you're going to be protected by
having this expensive system running on Wi Fi. Oh let's
Wi Fi your door locks. Yes, let's make that safe.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Marshall Collier, I'd love you for that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You just gave us the pure, unfiltered truth, even though
it may be scary. But speaking of scary, let's talk
about twenty three and meters and what has just been
announced regarding that court case and bankruptcy. Finally, when we
come back, it's later with mo Kelly. Marshall Callier joins
me in the studio, dropping pearls of wisdom.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Later with mo Kelly and Marshall Callier continues to join
me in studio on this Tech Thursday. We discussed earlier
in the what is going on with ancestry excuse me
twenty three and me the DNA company where you can
find out about your ancestry, Well, how are your twenty
three percent this or twenty five percent that? And I
remember saying that since they're going through bankruptcy, I would
(10:15):
be very scared if I had given my DNA, if
only because as they try to settle up with their creditors.
The only thing that twenty three and meters has of
value would be its data.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
That's the only asset. That's all there is.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You and I talked about this a couple of years ago,
as it is what you warned this fact why we
shouldn't be doing this. Now they're bankrupt, they owe money.
What happens they have to raise money, so they're going
to have to sell their only assets. And I believe
it was yesterday the judge in the case gave them
(10:51):
permission to sell the DNA data.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
They don't even have to do it surreptitiously.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
No, they have a judge's okay. Now, remember we in
California were covered by the California Consumer Privacy Act. Yeah, yeah,
very nice. Our politicians did that. But the Genetic Information
Privacy Act GIPA is a federal act which covers all
(11:18):
of us. And we may have a really robust policy
in California, but everybody is so let me tell you
what to do. Because the judge said, well, you know,
you can settle the sale of the company then and
then and so it's a moving target. It's when things
happen in the stock market, you just can't put a finger.
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It's like trying to catch a slight falling knife. You
don't want to do that. So I want anybody who
has ever used twenty three in May to go to
the site, sign in your account, and go to the
settings section of your profile. In the settings section of
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your profile, scroll to the section labeled twenty three and
me data at the bottom of page. Clickview next to
twenty three and me data. Now download your data. You
paid for this, it is yours. If you want a
copy of your genetic data for your personal storage, choose
(12:23):
the option to download it to your device before proceeding.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Do that first.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Here's my question, because I always think like a criminal,
even though I'm not one. The criminal in me would say, well,
just because you downloaded your data doesn't mean that you
have the only copy of your data that is not
still going to be sold to a third party.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Not Millspeck.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean, but I remember, I'm sorry to interrupt you,
but I remember how twenty three meters was bending over backwards.
They had an actual ad campaign they were doing on
radio stations saying that no, we're not going to sell
your data, your data is safe, yeah yeah, yeah, blah blah,
And maybe that was the truth or their original intention.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Well it's being sold down right.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But the thing is, the other company, Ancestry, was at
least tied in with helping people get to records and
information so they could put together their family's genealogy. Twenty
three and me had nothing really except.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You had to input the data.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You're two percent from Iceland. So once you download your data,
you just scroll to the delete data section. That should
be easy click permanently delete data.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Now they don't have a copy somewhere. Okay, I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You, I know you just say what they're saying. I
just waited.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Actually they didn't say this everybody, but that there's more
confirm your request. You'll receive an email from twenty three
in may. Follow the link in the email to confirm
your delete. So once you've deleted it, you better answer
that email otherwise, oh wise you haven't confirmed you want
to delete it now, if you've previously opted to have
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your saliva sample and DNA stored by twenty three and
meters and a lot of people did for research purposes
things like that, you want to change the preferences and
you can do that from your account settings page. Go
to preferences and you can withdraw consent on the account
settings page under Research and Product Consents. So do it
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under GIPA, which I mentioned earlier, California consumers can delete
their account and genetic data and have the actual biological
sample destroyed.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Now, whether they're going to do it or not, you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Know, it's just like a like pinky swear.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, it's pinky swear. Because I remember when this was
first coming up. Famous school I think was Harvard did
a study because they would tell you it's anonymized, it's
under a number, it's not under your name. But they
could tell from either the saliva or the blood or
whatever what pollens this person was inhaling. They could narrow
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down to a mile of where that sample came from
without having that information, and then put in, oh, well
there's a red hair gene here that how many redheads
live in that once? Okay, so and they can go
through the genetic data and blow your cover it is
(15:35):
not anonymized.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well that's cheery. I feel all better already know.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Actually, I'm very glad that I never did it, And
to my knowledge, no one in my family has either.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah you never know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I said, As far as I know, no one in
my family has maybe they did it and didn't tell anyone.
The next thing I know, mister Kelly, you're wanted from
me because you mentioned genealogy profile.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I don't understand when we see the crime movies where
the guy drops his coffee cup in the garbage can
all of a sudden, you know, the CSI guy just
picks it up and oh yeah, there's DNA now, oh yeah, yeah, Like,
how could that be legal?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Because I actually do know the answer.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Good Because just like anything which is in your trash
can out on the street, you don't have a reasonable
expectation of privacy for that which has been discarded. So
if it's been discarded now, I don't know if they
can just you know, take a glass off your desk
just because they came in to talk to you and
try to take your DNA.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But stranger things have happened.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Really.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, I'm a cynical person, so I just believe the
worst of people.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I'm to the Club of twenty four. If you remember
that series, you know, trust no one. I really don't
trust because it's too easy to break the rules.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Marshall Collier more great advice. Trust nobody. I don't trust Mark.
I don't trust Stefan, damn sure. Don't trust Twala. No,
I'm being serious, Mark, I do not trust you. You
shouldn't like you, No, you shouldn't. This is perceptive on
your partner, Marshall Collier. Always great to see.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I'll see you next week and let's have a cheerier topic.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, look, the world is gonna do what the world's
gonna do, and the news is going to be what.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The news is.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I know, no guarantees, I don't know. Okay, we'll figure
out something.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
The CIA used experimental intelligence methods to attempt to locate
the arc of the Covenant, and this information was recently
not recently, but it was in recent years was declassified
and the recently resurfaced documents, as reported by The Daily
(18:01):
It outlines how the CIA used what they call remote viewing.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
This is where we need George Nori.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Remote viewing to mentally locate the site of the artifact
and the CIA's Project Sunstreak took place in the nineteen
eighties and use remote viewing to describe remote areas or
concealed data via unknown mental processes, and what exercise the
remote viewer was asked to locate the Ark of the Covenant.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And how about this? This is how uncanny.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And exact the remote viewer was able to give the
information reported it to be quote somewhere in the Middle East.
That really narrowed it down, hidden underground, dark and wet.
That is uncounty. How close and how accurate this remote
(18:58):
viewer was. Where in the Middle East, hidden underground, dark
and wet. The CIA will never cease to amaze me.
But it's unclear how successful it was. And it's believed
to be possibly in the possession of the CIA. And
maybe you're not old enough to remember rates of lost Ark.
(19:20):
Maybe you're not a student of history or biblical literature,
and you don't know what the Ark of the Covenant is.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Nazis, I've discovered Tennis.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Just what does that mean to you? Tennis?
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Well, the city of Tennis is one of the possible
resting places of the Lost Dark, the lost Ark, Yeah,
the Arc of the Covenant, the chest the Hebrews used
to carry around, the Ten Commandments commandment you're talking about
the Ten Commandments, Yes, the actual Ten Commandments, the original
stone tablets that Moses brought down out of Monterra and smashed.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
If you believe in that sort of thing.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Any guys ever go to Sunday School.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, I'm all the look.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
The Hebrews took the broken pieces and put them in
the arc. When they settled in Canaan. They put the
ark in a place called the Temple of Solemn in Jerusalem,
where it stayed for many years until all of a
sudden worsh is gone where well, nobody knows where or when.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
However, an Egyptian pharaoh Yes invaded the city of Jerusalem
run about nine AGDC, and they may have taken the
fact to the city of Tennis and hidden it in
a secret chamber call the Well of Souls secret Chamber.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
However, about a year after the af pharaoh had returned
to Egypt, the city of Tennis was consumed by the
desert some storm. Its lasted a whole year, wipe cleanton
by the wroth of God.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Obviously we've come to the right men.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So is this art imitating life or life imitating art?
You had the remote viewer who said it was somewhere in.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
The Middle East. Check hidden, underground, dark and wet.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Check and what I'm hearing in Raiders of the Lost
Arc is eerily reminiscent of somewhere in the Middle East
and hidden, darkened way.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
I just want to be here on this planet when
they crack it open, when they finally open it up,
when someone goes down into the chamber filled with snakes
trying to have to be snakes, damn snakes, to get
the exact location and get to the Well of Souls
and have it opened up on the mountaintop on a
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very stormy, windy, rainy night in front of Elon Musk,
where all the camera will be broadcast live on X
and we can watch them all mummify, liquefy.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And explode in person.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
That will be true art imitating, like.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I believe that the CIA has the ARC somewhere in
its archives, just like the movie, and is probably an box,
and they're top men who are looking at it right
now down your country.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Of great service.
Speaker 13 (22:05):
Thank you, and we trust you found.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
The settlement satisfactory.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Throw the money's fine. The situation is totally unaccepted. Well, gentlemen,
I guess that just about rahaps it up. Where is
the Arc?
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Well, I thought we'd settled that the arc is somewhere
very safe from whom.
Speaker 10 (22:25):
The arc is a source of unspeakable power, and it
has to be researched.
Speaker 11 (22:30):
And it will be I assure you, doctor Brodie, doctor.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Jones, Doctor Jones, Jones working on it right now.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Who top men, Hey, what happened? You don't look very happy?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Fools bureaucratically.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
You don't know what they've got there.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
The CIA doesn't know what it has, Believe it or not? Hey, Mark,
what do you think?
Speaker 13 (23:06):
I enjoy Nazi's faces melting as much as the next guy.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Art life.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh boy, let's talk about adolescents when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (23:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (23:31):
KFI Mo Kelly live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And
I had a basically another homework assignment for the guys here.
I didn't explicitly say you need this to pass the class,
but it was kind of just understood it was extra credit.
The first homework assignment was watch Paradise on Hulu and
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everyone who's hit me on social media at mister Mo, Kelly,
m R m O K E L L Y. Every
single one has said some version of Moe.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
You were right. Paradise is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I really put a lot on it, and I had
no problem with it because I was that confident in
the show. I'm also that confident in Adolescence on Netflix.
It is fantastic, if only because of the techniques which
were used in telling this very different story. I'm not
(24:28):
going to give all my thoughts on it, if only
because I want people to see it and now I
don't want to preface how they may feel about the ending.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Because it's a limited series.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
There are only four episodes, so you're not going to
get everything into four episodes. But I'm curious to hear
people's thoughts. One person who took the extra credits assignment
was Stepan. Meant to get to this yesterday, but we
didn't get a chance. So let me take a step back. Stephan,
you didn't tell anyone in advance that you were going
to watch it.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
You just started.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Watching it, right yep, just went home one day and
I was like, you know what, let me check this out.
Especially after you and Gary talked about it. I thought
it's got to be something interesting here, you know. And yeah,
I would say lived up to the hype as far
as not only the technique that they used, but also
the story itself is really really good. Did you see
(25:20):
all four episodes? No, just I just saw the one. Okay,
so right, so I'm gonna get too far ahead of myself.
I was absolutely amazed because as you watch the different episodes,
and this is true of all four of them, they
cover a lot of physical ground. It's not just a
one shot scene in a room or a house. They
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are literally going into a house, upstairs, downstairs, leaving the house,
getting into a car, driving to the other side of town,
having dialogue, getting out of the car, going into the
police station. They have this someone being fingerprinted, and you
go onto different intere gaistionh rooms. You have all these
things happening in a linea or fashion. It's it's a
(26:06):
one hour in real time on a particular day in
telling this story.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's so impressive.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It almost makes you feel like it's almost voyeuristic the
way they shoot it, because you never get a chance
to just you know, you wait for that break and
you're like, Okay, I'm gonna go get a snack or
go to the bathroom and can do it. You cannot
do it because your eyes are glued and you I
even found myself catching my breath like I was like, oh,
I wasn't breathing, like I was just so focused. And
(26:34):
this doesn't give anything away, but there's a part where they,
like Moa was saying, when they travel and they go
into a van, you don't even realize that it was
one shot the entire time because they go into it.
You know, I won't give any details, but they go
into a van and they're you know, showing the characters
and they're talking this and that, and they come out.
They never broke they never cut away. It was the
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entire time. And now you're in a completely different location
and it's timed perfectly. I don't know if they were
just driving around the block right four or five times
and so they could finish the dialogue. But they finished
a dialogue and then they're at the next location and
they somehow you don't see the camera shake or anything like.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
That, they get out of there.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I swore it had to have been some sort of
trick editing, and I was googling trying to find nope,
one shot and explain how it was done.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It's like, you have these different locations and I'm quite
sure they're radio to go ahead, Okay, they're almost two.
Wherever you're gonna go, be ready, they're gonna be get
ready to walk in. And they have the next scene,
if you will. And I say scene as in air quotes,
because it's just one big scene. It almost feels like,
especially just that specific scene, it's almost as if they
were flying there because the camera movement was so smooth,
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and like you said, there's no shaking or anything like that.
It's just like, how did they go from the house
to the van to the next spot. It was like,
what's happening here? And I'm kind of like, now I
understand what Gary was saying. I'm not gonna look anything
up until I'm done with the whole thing to see
what the trickery was, because it really is impressive. I
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looked up everything at the end, and I'm actually more
impressed when they laid out how it was done, how
many people were involved, how the transitions were completed, how
often they actually rehearsed to be able to do this,
And also I kept learning other things. The young actor
(28:30):
who plays Jamie sings Owen if I'm not mistaken Owen Cooper.
I think that's his first time ever acting ever, hadn't
been in a school play, hadn't done had an agent,
and didn't do anything professional work.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That was his first time.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
And you think about the expansive sceneries and the amount
of dialogue.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
He didn't kick, not one line. Nobody did.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And when you work in something like radio, we're reading
copy for I don't know, like a live read, like
I'll do a Dodger's live read or something. I am
lucky if I can get through the whole thing without
kicking a line and messing up or stumbling over a word,
and nobody stumbles over anything.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
No, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I thought of you and Gary when I was
watching the Kid, knowing that this was his first role,
and he absolutely just one episode in he kills it.
I mean, like, especially get to the end of the
first one. Who I was just like, this is his
first job. The word of mouth on this is through
the roof, and as more people talk about it to
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other people they see it, it's going to break all
sorts of records.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
It opened with a massive twenty four point three million
views in its first four days.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Talking about adolescents.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Adolescence was the most watched title on Netflix during the
week of March seventeen through the twenty third, with another
forty two million views, taking the show to sixty six
point three million views, so far more than any other
Netflix limited series has achieved within a two week period,
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and Adolescence did it in eleven days and it's only
picking up steam Mark I think would love this if
it when he gets around to it.
Speaker 13 (30:23):
I'm a big fan of these one shot things. You
guys are making me. Remember that great winner in True
Detective in the first season. Oh well, yes, there went
on a chase for blocks. There's a great Scott Adkins
martial arts movie called one Shot, One Shot. Yeah, And
in fact it's just not the Jay White Yeah. Yeah,
old older movies like Russian Arc. That stuff's really impressive,
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and the amount of prep that goes into those is
just mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
The only difference is this show Adolescence has i'll say,
crowd scenes where you're having fifty two to one hundred
people at one time in a particular scene, in a
particular location and then they go to another part of
the city with equal numbers of people.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I don't know how they pulled it off. It is
a magic. It's a magical It does the presentation of
of a TV show. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (31:21):
If you do what I do, you kind of impulsively
try to reverse engineer things that you see that you realize, Oh,
that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
This it's almost like a magic trick. Like I say,
there's gotta be some way that they're tricking us. There's
gotta be, but isn't. Yeah, Like, if I didn't know
ahead of time the technique that they used, I would
have probably watched all four and one night. But because
I knew it was coming, I was like, all right,
I'm gonna try to catch it. I'm gonna see if
we're you know where this is where they cut it
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is Yeah, and it's like, nope, you cannot catch it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It is so it's smoother than butter.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
I mean, it's crazy to look for the cheats, Like, yeah,
that Saturday Night Live movie came out a few months ago,
had a lot of stuff like that, And I kept
on looking like, Okay, where is there a shadow flashing
across the screen where there could have been a cut.
When people do that, well, it's amazing. I watched all
four episodes consecutively. BIB watched it was done in four
(32:17):
hours because it was that engrossy, not only for the
for the camera techniques, but also for the story and
the the ambiguity of what is happening. As you're going
through it, you're not exactly sure what to believe, are
(32:37):
home to believe? Even though they're pointing you in a
certain direction, you're pointing you. Yeah, but you're not exactly
sure if it's going to be that. And I don't
want to say too much, but if Mark ever gets
around to the extra credit assignment or Tuala will have
more on Adolescent, I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I probably watched the next one tonight because yeah, it's
just man, it gets better progressively better. In other words,
the second episode is better than the first, the third
is better than the second.
Speaker 13 (33:04):
It keeps picking up, it picks up in intensity. Yeah, well,
I don't want to be sent to detention. I'll have
to get to it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Marshall Callier, let's dispense with the pleasantries because we got
to get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Signal.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Signal, Signal, it's the I will say, a portion of
the biggest story in the world. Most people may not
have known about signal. What is it beyond obviously some
sort of communication.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I thought it was some sort of religious thing for personally,
I didn't really know. But since we know about signal,
and one of the things people don't know is what
is encryption and ed encrypt? Well, what's encrypt mean? Well,
there are different kinds of encryption, but in this case,
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I'm sure you've heard of end to end encryption, yes,
which Gmail supposedly does, right, and Signal does that with
your texts, as does WhatsApp, as does Telegram.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Uh so it's not uncommon.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
But you can have man in the middle attacks and
a man in the middle attack, just like when somebody
can come up to your house and sees your Wi
Fi system, so they can rob you and your alarm
won't go off. People can intercept your phone and get
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all the information.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
But you know no, go ahead, go ahead, Please continue.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But we had a solution to this which I don't
understand frankly, and we'll talk about the Signal company and Milte.
There was BlackBerry, yes, if you remember, President Obama used
BlackBerry till the end.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, hold that thought, because I want to play
this clip which kind of highlights where I think you're going.
And this is Chris Pearson, who is the CEO of
black Cloak, and he makes this distinct that I want
you to elaborate on.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So listen to this. Please.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
A text message that you send between yourself and your parents,
your brothers, your friends, that is pretty much akin to
sending a postcard. Writing the information on a postcard that
everyone can see in the mail. Not going to be
secure if you have to transmit that information to family member,
social Security number, other information there and you want to
use in cryptocommunication.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Signal is going to be an.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
Application of a choice, but it is a consumer based application.
The real issue here is that for sensitive or classified
information that is being used by and transmitted by the government,
that number one, the devices must be protected, and number two,
the application and the transmission.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Of the data must be protected.
Speaker 8 (02:43):
Just simply using an encrypted app that is only consumer
grade on a personal device is actually going to open
up the United States and others to forums, fine hacking,
and other risks.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What I want to know is he makes a distinction
between encrypt the data, which you just talked about, and
also the device protection. What does he mean by that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well, the data encryption and device encryption in a device,
it encrypts the storage on the device, which we have.
Actually currently Windows has a built in program, as does
Apple file Vault on Apple, but those are full device encryption.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Now, what Signal.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Does is it takes the data, encrypts it, in other words,
turns it into gibberis. So if somebody did intercept that,
they wouldn't be able to make sense of it. And
that's a call or a text and once it lands
on their servers because it has to land on a
server for it to bounce back to somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So okay, so you can't necessarily hack Signal that data transfer, right,
But I get the sense that like a personal device,
since we're talking about government, may be more susceptible to
being attacked.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well, have you ever seen something and that's called millspeck
when you're looking for a case for your phone or
a battery. MILLSPEC means military specifications. Okay, okay, there are
grades of security. I don't know how many there are.
But just just like Resident Obama was told stop using BlackBerry,
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it's a danger. Why is that because it wasn't millspec.
It wasn't strong enough. You see, you can have a
rope that's a quarter of an inch thick. You can
have a rope that's great analogy four inches thick, and
there's your difference. It's a lot harder to saw through
that four inch thick rope. So that's your real difference.
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It's a high level of security. And if your disc
is encrypted where you store the sensitive information, it'll prevent
unauthorized access, got it.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
So they can't be hacked.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
They you see, there's other softwares involved here too that
are protecting we'll say the hard drive, but that's a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So people understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, basically the hard drive and keeping the data in
gibberish should anybody break it through. But if you've got millspeck,
if you've got which brings to the whole thing, why
does not our US government? Since BlackBerry had these great products,
(05:30):
and we know Signal and Signal is a five oh
one three c charitable foundation. They're in data and their
data of programming is free for anyone to use to
develop new software.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Or deconstruct and reverse engineer too.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I would imagine, yes you can, but I mean they
take donations.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
I checked it. It's owned by the Signal Foundation.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
So when it comes to all of this gone to space,
for heaven's sake, why can't we put together an app
that's used for governments.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Karen Bass would be real happy if we had one
of those.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I mean all levels of government. It should be what
our government uses to talk to each other, period, and
it should automatically record their texts and their calls so
that the record is kept, as you know, technically must
be kept.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Because of the Federal Records Act. And that's what you
touch upon. But I'm guessing I don't know. I suspect
that people are using Signal because they don't want a
record of everything that they're community.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Exactly, and that's true.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
You can use telegram and WhatsApp, like I said, but still,
when you're talking about military, when you're talking about thousands
of lives at stake, when you're talking about bombing and
sinking ships, you really really better put down the dollars
to put together real software. And honestly, since we have
such a base of excellent software, now I can tell
(07:09):
you I'm sure that there is something, but it should
be distributed to all government agencies.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or let me ask you this the possibility it does
already exist that level of encrypted software which will protect
not only the communication but the device.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
But individuals have chosen not to use it.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Well, you see that's the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
It's like we talk about our elected people. How many
of them ever ran a business? Do they know how
to run a budget? I don't know that they know
how to run a device, even a phone that has
to send out a ping to translate.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I don't think they have to know. I'm quite sure
they're instructed.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I'm quite sure there are protocols that are put in place,
such as don't use your own personal device to communicate
sensitive information, which way know is a variable in this discussion.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Absolutely, but they don't know. I mean if you remember
any of the congressional hearings or the Senate hearings when
they ask questions no offense. I'm sure they're really nice
people in our elected government, but they don't know jack
about tech tech. I mean kind of having somebody like
(08:22):
Elon Good or Bad can at least teach them some
sort of tech or his people can teach them something
that's going to make our country safer and better for everybody.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
Because yea spies.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But we know, and you're someone who's traveled the world.
You have been to China. You know about their capabilities
and their intentions. Security doesn't mean much if not everyone.
For example, let me make it real basic and easy
for people to understand. You can have the best lock
in the world on your house, but if you leave
the door unlocks when you walk out, it doesn't make
a lot of difference.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
But again, like I said, Millspeck consumer grade. There's a
guy who can walk up to your house and shut
your WiFi down with a one hundred and ninety nine
dollars device.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's consumer grade.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But they're telling you you're going to be protected by
having this expensive system running on Wi Fi. Oh let's
Wi Fi your door locks. Yes, let's make that safe.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Marshall Collier, I'd love you for that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You just gave us the pure, unfiltered truth, even though
it may be scary. But speaking of scary, let's talk
about twenty three and meters and what has just been
announced regarding that court case and bankruptcy. Finally, when we
come back, it's later with mo Kelly. Marshall Callier joins
me in the studio, dropping pearls of wisdom.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Later with mo Kelly and Marshall Callier continues to join
me in studio on this Tech Thursday. We discussed earlier
in the what is going on with ancestry excuse me
twenty three and me the DNA company where you can
find out about your ancestry, Well, how are your twenty
three percent this or twenty five percent that? And I
remember saying that since they're going through bankruptcy, I would
(10:15):
be very scared if I had given my DNA, if
only because as they try to settle up with their creditors.
The only thing that twenty three and meters has of
value would be its data.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
That's the only asset. That's all there is.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Now.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
You and I talked about this a couple of years ago,
as it is what you warned this fact why we
shouldn't be doing this. Now they're bankrupt, they owe money.
What happens they have to raise money, so they're going
to have to sell their only assets. And I believe
it was yesterday the judge in the case gave them
(10:51):
permission to sell the DNA data.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
They don't even have to do it surreptitiously.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
No, they have a judge's okay. Now, remember we in
California were covered by the California Consumer Privacy Act. Yeah, yeah,
very nice. Our politicians did that. But the Genetic Information
Privacy Act GIPA is a federal act which covers all
(11:18):
of us. And we may have a really robust policy
in California, but everybody is so let me tell you
what to do. Because the judge said, well, you know,
you can settle the sale of the company then and
then and so it's a moving target. It's when things
happen in the stock market, you just can't put a finger.
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It's like trying to catch a slight falling knife. You
don't want to do that. So I want anybody who
has ever used twenty three in May to go to
the site, sign in your account, and go to the
settings section of your profile. In the settings section of
(12:00):
your profile, scroll to the section labeled twenty three and
me data at the bottom of page. Clickview next to
twenty three and me data. Now download your data. You
paid for this, it is yours. If you want a
copy of your genetic data for your personal storage, choose
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the option to download it to your device before proceeding.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Do that first.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Here's my question, because I always think like a criminal,
even though I'm not one. The criminal in me would say, well,
just because you downloaded your data doesn't mean that you
have the only copy of your data that is not
still going to be sold to a third party.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Not Millspeck.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I mean, but I remember, I'm sorry to interrupt you,
but I remember how twenty three meters was bending over backwards.
They had an actual ad campaign they were doing on
radio stations saying that no, we're not going to sell
your data, your data is safe, yeah yeah, yeah, blah blah,
And maybe that was the truth or their original intention.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Well it's being sold down right.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
But the thing is, the other company, Ancestry, was at
least tied in with helping people get to records and
information so they could put together their family's genealogy. Twenty
three and me had nothing really except.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You had to input the data.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You're two percent from Iceland. So once you download your data,
you just scroll to the delete data section. That should
be easy click permanently delete data.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Now they don't have a copy somewhere. Okay, I'm telling.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
You, I know you just say what they're saying. I
just waited.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Actually they didn't say this everybody, but that there's more
confirm your request. You'll receive an email from twenty three
in may. Follow the link in the email to confirm
your delete. So once you've deleted it, you better answer
that email otherwise, oh wise you haven't confirmed you want
to delete it now, if you've previously opted to have
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your saliva sample and DNA stored by twenty three and
meters and a lot of people did for research purposes
things like that, you want to change the preferences and
you can do that from your account settings page. Go
to preferences and you can withdraw consent on the account
settings page under Research and Product Consents. So do it
(14:30):
under GIPA, which I mentioned earlier, California consumers can delete
their account and genetic data and have the actual biological
sample destroyed.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Now, whether they're going to do it or not, you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Know, it's just like a like pinky swear.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, it's pinky swear. Because I remember when this was
first coming up. Famous school I think was Harvard did
a study because they would tell you it's anonymized, it's
under a number, it's not under your name. But they
could tell from either the saliva or the blood or
whatever what pollens this person was inhaling. They could narrow
(15:14):
down to a mile of where that sample came from
without having that information, and then put in, oh, well
there's a red hair gene here that how many redheads
live in that once? Okay, so and they can go
through the genetic data and blow your cover it is
(15:35):
not anonymized.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well that's cheery. I feel all better already know.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Actually, I'm very glad that I never did it, And
to my knowledge, no one in my family has either.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Yeah you never know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I said, As far as I know, no one in
my family has maybe they did it and didn't tell anyone.
The next thing I know, mister Kelly, you're wanted from
me because you mentioned genealogy profile.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
I don't understand when we see the crime movies where
the guy drops his coffee cup in the garbage can
all of a sudden, you know, the CSI guy just
picks it up and oh yeah, there's DNA now, oh yeah, yeah, Like,
how could that be legal?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Because I actually do know the answer.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Good Because just like anything which is in your trash
can out on the street, you don't have a reasonable
expectation of privacy for that which has been discarded. So
if it's been discarded now, I don't know if they
can just you know, take a glass off your desk
just because they came in to talk to you and
try to take your DNA.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But stranger things have happened.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Really.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, I'm a cynical person, so I just believe the
worst of people.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I'm to the Club of twenty four. If you remember
that series, you know, trust no one. I really don't
trust because it's too easy to break the rules.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Marshall Collier more great advice. Trust nobody. I don't trust Mark.
I don't trust Stefan, damn sure. Don't trust Twala. No,
I'm being serious, Mark, I do not trust you. You
shouldn't like you, No, you shouldn't. This is perceptive on
your partner, Marshall Collier. Always great to see.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I'll see you next week and let's have a cheerier topic.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well, look, the world is gonna do what the world's
gonna do, and the news is going to be what.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The news is.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
I know, no guarantees, I don't know. Okay, we'll figure
out something.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
The CIA used experimental intelligence methods to attempt to locate
the arc of the Covenant, and this information was recently
not recently, but it was in recent years was declassified
and the recently resurfaced documents, as reported by The Daily
(18:01):
It outlines how the CIA used what they call remote viewing.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
This is where we need George Nori.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Remote viewing to mentally locate the site of the artifact
and the CIA's Project Sunstreak took place in the nineteen
eighties and use remote viewing to describe remote areas or
concealed data via unknown mental processes, and what exercise the
remote viewer was asked to locate the Ark of the Covenant.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And how about this? This is how uncanny.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
And exact the remote viewer was able to give the
information reported it to be quote somewhere in the Middle East.
That really narrowed it down, hidden underground, dark and wet.
That is uncounty. How close and how accurate this remote
(18:58):
viewer was. Where in the Middle East, hidden underground, dark
and wet. The CIA will never cease to amaze me.
But it's unclear how successful it was. And it's believed
to be possibly in the possession of the CIA. And
maybe you're not old enough to remember rates of lost Ark.
(19:20):
Maybe you're not a student of history or biblical literature,
and you don't know what the Ark of the Covenant is.
Speaker 9 (19:27):
Nazis, I've discovered Tennis.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Just what does that mean to you? Tennis?
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Well, the city of Tennis is one of the possible
resting places of the Lost Dark, the lost Ark, Yeah,
the Arc of the Covenant, the chest the Hebrews used
to carry around, the Ten Commandments commandment you're talking about
the Ten Commandments, Yes, the actual Ten Commandments, the original
stone tablets that Moses brought down out of Monterra and smashed.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
If you believe in that sort of thing.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Any guys ever go to Sunday School.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, I'm all the look.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
The Hebrews took the broken pieces and put them in
the arc. When they settled in Canaan. They put the
ark in a place called the Temple of Solemn in Jerusalem,
where it stayed for many years until all of a
sudden worsh is gone where well, nobody knows where or when.
Speaker 10 (20:13):
However, an Egyptian pharaoh Yes invaded the city of Jerusalem
run about nine AGDC, and they may have taken the
fact to the city of Tennis and hidden it in
a secret chamber call the Well of Souls secret Chamber.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
However, about a year after the af pharaoh had returned
to Egypt, the city of Tennis was consumed by the
desert some storm. Its lasted a whole year, wipe cleanton
by the wroth of God.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Obviously we've come to the right men.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So is this art imitating life or life imitating art?
You had the remote viewer who said it was somewhere in.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
The Middle East. Check hidden, underground, dark and wet.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Check and what I'm hearing in Raiders of the Lost
Arc is eerily reminiscent of somewhere in the Middle East
and hidden, darkened way.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
I just want to be here on this planet when
they crack it open, when they finally open it up,
when someone goes down into the chamber filled with snakes
trying to have to be snakes, damn snakes, to get
the exact location and get to the Well of Souls
and have it opened up on the mountaintop on a
(21:31):
very stormy, windy, rainy night in front of Elon Musk,
where all the camera will be broadcast live on X
and we can watch them all mummify, liquefy.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And explode in person.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
That will be true art imitating, like.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I believe that the CIA has the ARC somewhere in
its archives, just like the movie, and is probably an box,
and they're top men who are looking at it right
now down your country.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Of great service.
Speaker 13 (22:05):
Thank you, and we trust you found.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
The settlement satisfactory.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Throw the money's fine. The situation is totally unaccepted. Well, gentlemen,
I guess that just about rahaps it up. Where is
the Arc?
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Well, I thought we'd settled that the arc is somewhere
very safe from whom.
Speaker 10 (22:25):
The arc is a source of unspeakable power, and it
has to be researched.
Speaker 11 (22:30):
And it will be I assure you, doctor Brodie, doctor.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Jones, Doctor Jones, Jones working on it right now.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Who top men, Hey, what happened? You don't look very happy?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Fools bureaucratically.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
You don't know what they've got there.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
The CIA doesn't know what it has, Believe it or not? Hey, Mark,
what do you think?
Speaker 13 (23:06):
I enjoy Nazi's faces melting as much as the next guy.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Art life.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Oh boy, let's talk about adolescents when we come back.
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I had a basically another homework assignment for the guys here.
I didn't explicitly say you need this to pass the class,
but it was kind of just understood it was extra credit.
The first homework assignment was watch Paradise on Hulu and
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everyone who's hit me on social media at mister Mo, Kelly,
m R m O K E L L Y. Every
single one has said some version of Moe.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
You were right. Paradise is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I really put a lot on it, and I had
no problem with it because I was that confident in
the show. I'm also that confident in Adolescence on Netflix.
It is fantastic, if only because of the techniques which
were used in telling this very different story. I'm not
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going to give all my thoughts on it, if only
because I want people to see it and now I
don't want to preface how they may feel about the ending.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Because it's a limited series.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
There are only four episodes, so you're not going to
get everything into four episodes. But I'm curious to hear
people's thoughts. One person who took the extra credits assignment
was Stepan. Meant to get to this yesterday, but we
didn't get a chance. So let me take a step back. Stephan,
you didn't tell anyone in advance that you were going
to watch it.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
You just started.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Watching it, right yep, just went home one day and
I was like, you know what, let me check this out.
Especially after you and Gary talked about it. I thought
it's got to be something interesting here, you know. And yeah,
I would say lived up to the hype as far
as not only the technique that they used, but also
the story itself is really really good. Did you see
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all four episodes? No, just I just saw the one. Okay,
so right, so I'm gonna get too far ahead of myself.
I was absolutely amazed because as you watch the different episodes,
and this is true of all four of them, they
cover a lot of physical ground. It's not just a
one shot scene in a room or a house. They
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are literally going into a house, upstairs, downstairs, leaving the house,
getting into a car, driving to the other side of town,
having dialogue, getting out of the car, going into the
police station. They have this someone being fingerprinted, and you
go onto different intere gaistionh rooms. You have all these
things happening in a linea or fashion. It's it's a
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one hour in real time on a particular day in
telling this story.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
It's so impressive.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
It almost makes you feel like it's almost voyeuristic the
way they shoot it, because you never get a chance
to just you know, you wait for that break and
you're like, Okay, I'm gonna go get a snack or
go to the bathroom and can do it. You cannot
do it because your eyes are glued and you I
even found myself catching my breath like I was like, oh,
I wasn't breathing, like I was just so focused. And
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this doesn't give anything away, but there's a part where they,
like Moa was saying, when they travel and they go
into a van, you don't even realize that it was
one shot the entire time because they go into it.
You know, I won't give any details, but they go
into a van and they're you know, showing the characters
and they're talking this and that, and they come out.
They never broke they never cut away. It was the
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entire time. And now you're in a completely different location
and it's timed perfectly. I don't know if they were
just driving around the block right four or five times
and so they could finish the dialogue. But they finished
a dialogue and then they're at the next location and
they somehow you don't see the camera shake or anything like.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
That, they get out of there.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I swore it had to have been some sort of
trick editing, and I was googling trying to find nope,
one shot and explain how it was done.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It's like, you have these different locations and I'm quite
sure they're radio to go ahead, Okay, they're almost two.
Wherever you're gonna go, be ready, they're gonna be get
ready to walk in. And they have the next scene,
if you will. And I say scene as in air quotes,
because it's just one big scene. It almost feels like,
especially just that specific scene, it's almost as if they
were flying there because the camera movement was so smooth,
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and like you said, there's no shaking or anything like that.
It's just like, how did they go from the house
to the van to the next spot. It was like,
what's happening here? And I'm kind of like, now I
understand what Gary was saying. I'm not gonna look anything
up until I'm done with the whole thing to see
what the trickery was, because it really is impressive. I
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looked up everything at the end, and I'm actually more
impressed when they laid out how it was done, how
many people were involved, how the transitions were completed, how
often they actually rehearsed to be able to do this,
And also I kept learning other things. The young actor
(28:30):
who plays Jamie sings Owen if I'm not mistaken Owen Cooper.
I think that's his first time ever acting ever, hadn't
been in a school play, hadn't done had an agent,
and didn't do anything professional work.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That was his first time.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
And you think about the expansive sceneries and the amount
of dialogue.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
He didn't kick, not one line. Nobody did.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And when you work in something like radio, we're reading
copy for I don't know, like a live read, like
I'll do a Dodger's live read or something. I am
lucky if I can get through the whole thing without
kicking a line and messing up or stumbling over a word,
and nobody stumbles over anything.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
No, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And I thought of you and Gary when I was
watching the Kid, knowing that this was his first role,
and he absolutely just one episode in he kills it.
I mean, like, especially get to the end of the
first one. Who I was just like, this is his
first job. The word of mouth on this is through
the roof, and as more people talk about it to
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other people they see it, it's going to break all
sorts of records.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
It opened with a massive twenty four point three million
views in its first four days.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Talking about adolescents.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Adolescence was the most watched title on Netflix during the
week of March seventeen through the twenty third, with another
forty two million views, taking the show to sixty six
point three million views, so far more than any other
Netflix limited series has achieved within a two week period,
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and Adolescence did it in eleven days and it's only
picking up steam Mark I think would love this if
it when he gets around to it.
Speaker 13 (30:23):
I'm a big fan of these one shot things. You
guys are making me. Remember that great winner in True
Detective in the first season. Oh well, yes, there went
on a chase for blocks. There's a great Scott Adkins
martial arts movie called one Shot, One Shot. Yeah, And
in fact it's just not the Jay White Yeah. Yeah,
old older movies like Russian Arc. That stuff's really impressive,
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and the amount of prep that goes into those is
just mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
The only difference is this show Adolescence has i'll say,
crowd scenes where you're having fifty two to one hundred
people at one time in a particular scene, in a
particular location and then they go to another part of
the city with equal numbers of people.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I don't know how they pulled it off. It is
a magic. It's a magical It does the presentation of
of a TV show. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (31:21):
If you do what I do, you kind of impulsively
try to reverse engineer things that you see that you realize, Oh,
that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
This it's almost like a magic trick. Like I say,
there's gotta be some way that they're tricking us. There's
gotta be, but isn't. Yeah, Like, if I didn't know
ahead of time the technique that they used, I would
have probably watched all four and one night. But because
I knew it was coming, I was like, all right,
I'm gonna try to catch it. I'm gonna see if
we're you know where this is where they cut it
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is Yeah, and it's like, nope, you cannot catch it.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It is so it's smoother than butter.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
I mean, it's crazy to look for the cheats, Like, yeah,
that Saturday Night Live movie came out a few months ago,
had a lot of stuff like that, And I kept
on looking like, Okay, where is there a shadow flashing
across the screen where there could have been a cut.
When people do that, well, it's amazing. I watched all
four episodes consecutively. BIB watched it was done in four
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hours because it was that engrossy, not only for the
for the camera techniques, but also for the story and
the the ambiguity of what is happening. As you're going
through it, you're not exactly sure what to believe, are
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home to believe? Even though they're pointing you in a
certain direction, you're pointing you. Yeah, but you're not exactly
sure if it's going to be that. And I don't
want to say too much, but if Mark ever gets
around to the extra credit assignment or Tuala will have
more on Adolescent, I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I probably watched the next one tonight because yeah, it's
just man, it gets better progressively better. In other words,
the second episode is better than the first, the third
is better than the second.
Speaker 13 (33:04):
It keeps picking up, it picks up in intensity. Yeah, well,
I don't want to be sent to detention. I'll have
to get to it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
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