July 18, 2025 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the triumphant return of the ‘Commodore 64’ AND the comeback of the personal computer on ‘Tech Thursday’ with regular guest contributor; (author, podcast host, and technology pundit) Marsha Collier…PLUS – Thoughts on the infamous Fyre Festival selling for over 200k AND the importance of tickets for Sir Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey,’ in IMAX 70mm, going on sale a year in advance - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And Marsha Carlier joins us in studio as she's been
known to do each and every Thursday as a part
of our Tech Thursday segment.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good evening, Marsha, how are you mo?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm doing well. I know you heard our conversation last segment.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I wanted that as kind of elite in about how
quickly our world is changing, how fast technology moves, and
how when I was a kid, I was growing up,
I had an Apple two C. They had the Commodore
sixty four and what have you. And look where we
are now. It's a lot has changed in the intervening years.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, but you know, around the turn of the century,
the US Patent Office closed because they thought everything had
been invented already. So it seems that these innovations come
in waves, destroy them, then we make more stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's a cycle that keeps going.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you ever unsettled? Because technology is what you do.
Do you ever look at a technology and say, like, Ooh,
I don't know if our society is ready for it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh? You know, it's not me to judge society, but
I often wonder why why do we have to have
like Google Maps had three updates in one week?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What has changed?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Was there a bug?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Shouldn't you have figured that out for the second update?
I mean, how many bugs you know you put out?
I don't understand. It's like a self feeding industry. They
have to make it better and make the buildings three
D on the map, you know, do this, do that?
Do we really need it? How far do we need
to go? And the same thing with Ai.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No, But I would say the answer is always competition,
because Google is in competition with any other maps creator
or emerging technology which one wants to take its place exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
But people are going to choose in this society the
way we are. You're Apple or you're Android, true, or
you're both, and same thing with politics, you're either one
or the other or you're both.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So you know, people have to just decide what.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Makes them happy, what they need to look for, and
maybe you don't want to load up with a bunch
of apps like it's still on the boat. But I'm
going to be testing out a new Chromebook and see
if I can exist on a Chromebook, which chromebooks are
half the price of a regular.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Computer and half the capability.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But do I really need all that capability? Okay, I
mean that's the question.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I don't do video, I don't do audio cuts.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Everything is writing to me. Can I do it?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And you know, it's kind of funny because there was
another person who's in tech, who was on the radio
who said, you know, I go to the event, and
I know because I saw the device in ISA. Unless
you have something in your hands so you play with
it for a month, you really you can't know how
good it is, how much you enjoy it, because really
(03:27):
the flaws start to show up as you're using it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Speaking of flaws, I remember once upon a time I
had a friend who had a Commodore sixty four and
I thought it was absolutely wonderful. Couldn't do much back then,
but it did a hell of a lot more than
anything else we had at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Remember writing code in you could get a rainbow or
little airplanes flying.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I look, I was pretty good at writing in basic.
I was pretty good at it. That was something when
I first I used to run my computer lab in
high school and we were programming in basic and I
had a very very very rudimentary game that I created.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And it was fun.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes, it was fun because.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You had accomplishment. You did something simple basically it wasn't
hard to learn. No, no, not at all, and you
got a reward. Maybe that would be beneficial. But right
now they're coming back. Some guy just went out a
YouTuber and he announced that he bought Commodore. He got
(04:34):
all new everything, every patent, everything that has to do
with it, and he's coming out with the Commodore sixty.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Four again in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, and it's on our screen right now.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What would the Commodore sixty four be able to do
in today's world?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, let me tell you. He's ramped up the interior
just a little bit. Okay, he's got three models, but
basically they all have the same guts. It's got a
an AMD chip, one hundred and twenty eight megabytes of
DDR two RAM, sixteen megabytes of nor flash memory, supports
(05:15):
full HD ten ADP video over video out over HDMI
so you can plug it. Yeah anything plus classic DN eight.
If you remember cvbs S video and RGBO.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You're really going deep. Well, that RGB monitor.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They want to keep it, you know, just but when
they said has an Hdmi cable. I'm going fantastic, right,
this is great, and it comes with which is pretty amazing,
over an amazing amount of games. It's compatible with over
ten thousand of the original Commodore sixty four games.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You have the option to play both cartridges and also
the analog tapes that could be connected to it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Data sets and disk drive, so it had Yeah, I
grew up with the disk drive.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
I learned how to spell on the Comedter sixty four.
You could have cartridges, disc like five inch floppy disks
which you barely find nowadays, and the cassette player cat right,
really versatile machine.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So you've got a fan right there.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
So Sam, just so you know, the basic version, which
is a copy of the original in boring beige, is
going to come out for.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Two ninety nine ninety nine during pre sale.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Then they have a Starlight Edition for three forty nine
which provides a color changing LED transparent case, so it's
not beige. It's kind of groovy. I don't know if
that would just track to from the games. And they
have a Founder's Edition for four ninety nine that provides
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color changing LED translucent case. A twenty four carrot gold
plated badge, satin gold keys, a translucent amber case, and
a commemorative Commodore gold seal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I love all things retro. I just don't know if
i'd love it for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, that is a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So for those of you, it's expected to ship in
October and if you want to go.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
To just in time for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah there you what a shock.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Amazing, it's a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But Jese prices are pre order. Just go to commodore
dot net for more information. But another thing.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Is this, you have to tune into our YouTube so
you can see this is very cool.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
What I'm showing is the box for the NES Classic
Edition and this.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Which is an Nintendo Entertainment system.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Go ahead, and it's miniature. It's a miniature old style Nintendo.
It's got thirty classic games built into it, so you
don't have to stick a cartridge.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
At anything, nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And it looks exactly because I wrote eBay for dummies,
I keep everything in the original box.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So it fits in the palm of your hand as
opposed to a game console, which is.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The size of like a laptop.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Caper exactly exactly, and you can use it with just
about anything.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But the games are all built in. This and this
you can get.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It was under fifty dollars when I first got it,
but now it's around one hundred dollars. And there's an
s NES version too, but these are a little cheaper
and with the games built in, can't lose?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Now? Is that available?
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Can I purchase that?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Now?
Speaker 8 (08:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I looked it up just because I wanted to find
the current prices on it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Uh huh, Yeah, it's available now.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It's the Neees Classic Edition and it's pretty fabulous.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think I might have to go purchase that.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I mean it has Zelda, Super Mario, Free three, Final
Fantasy Things you'd like, Ninja something.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Better have, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong. Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Legend of Zelday's Adventure, pac Man, Metroid, Super Mario Brothers.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh, now you're speaking of my life right right.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's got games, and it's got Super Mario Brothers three,
Punch Out.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Castle, Yes, and Castlevania.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, Stephan, it's time to yeah show and yeah, my
birthday's coming up in November.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Make it happen, happening.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But this is so cool.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Let's go to break real quickly when we come back.
That's not the only computer news that you have to
share with us, right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, there's always news and computers.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
We'll talk about it next with Marshall Collyer. It's Later
with Mo Kelly caf I AM six forty OnLive everywhere
in the I Heart Radio.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
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Speaker 1 (09:57):
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live on social media and the iHeartRadio app. We're still
in conversation with one of our favorite people, a regular commentator,
Marsha Collier, who joins us in studio.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Last segment, she told us.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
About the comeback of the NYES, the Nintendo Entertainment System
and the Commodore sixty four. But that's not the only
comeback in the world of computers.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
What do you think is the hottest gadget of the decade,
of the decade, It's probably not what you think.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I honestly don't know. I can't pick one item personal computer.
See I would have said like the smartphone or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You know, everybody has a smartphone, everybody has a tablet,
video game console, got that other electronics, but really none
of them substitute for a laptop.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
True, true, and you need the personal computer.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
And obviously sales went through the roof during the pandemic
because everybody had to zoom and everybody was at home
and blah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
What's interesting is that the market is turning around, according
to IDC, and they are the people who know, they
count everybody's sales, that it's going to be a PC world.
I mean, they're going to be laptops galore. It's interesting
desktops are still selling.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Desktops like the towers and everything. Yep. I have just
full disclosure. I have a desktop.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's not a tower, but it's a small computer for
my audio editing at home. I have a laptop which
is PC for audio editing. This just because the auto
editing software doesn't exist on Android. But if I could,
I would just have a Chrome book, which, like your lifestyle,
(11:57):
more fits my lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It doesn't need to do much.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'll just let you know. It is kind of announced
this week that Chrome and Android, Chrome Book, Chrome OS
and Android are going to merge, So that'll be a
story for another day. Hopefully it'll lead to better software.
That's what they're saying and apps, I should say that's
that's what they're saying. So anyway, people are still buying desktops,
(12:23):
believe it or not. People are buying detachable tablets. You know,
the laptops where the tablet snaps off.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I have one of those. I'm not a fan. Neither
am I because it doesn't sit on my lap. It's
not a tablet.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, yeah, I always need the keyboard attached.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, it's a hunk of plastic that you want it
to be a laptop, but it isn't.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Let me see.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Slate tablets are still selling, but that's way down, believe
it or no.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That's nothing but notebooks.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The sales are insane and they are getting stronger and
stronger by the year. And there are a lot of
options that people. There are so many options that you
can get. We talked about chromebook. When you buy a laptop, do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
You want to touch screen?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Do you? Mom?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I actually do.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I have one laptop which is a PC think Pad,
which is not touchscreen. This is touchscreen. I actually appreciate
a touchscreen you do.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I do.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I do, maybe because I've used it enough where there
are times where I want to zoom in on something
and I can just gesture it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I do this to books right right there.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I kind of want that, And maybe it's an age thing.
Sometimes I just need to expand that text just a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The fonts a little too small, Yeah, just a little
bit bigger.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But you know, computers mixed PCs with the tablets and
smartphones making one devices. So you've got the touchstreen screen
laptop and to tablets, and why can't there be especially
with the new Chrome OS and Android going together, why
(14:09):
can't your phone go through your laptop. There's no reason
why it should.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It can. There's they are apps.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't want to get too far afield, but yes,
because of Chrome, everything is SYNCD between my phone and
my laptop, and I can send anything on my phone
to my laptop.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But it's because I know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's not as easy for someone who would not have
any experience doing that.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, it's going to be fun, but sales of tablets
and smartphones peaked years ago. Tablets have a niche, but
everybody's got a phone and people are holding onto phones
longer and longer.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now I don't need a tablet if I have a phone,
because as far as I'm concerned, the tablet.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Is a phone that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Can't dial, because my phone is pretty much like a
small tablet, and if I want something larger than that,
I need a real keyboard, which means laptop, not tablet.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
You know, I've started dictating to my tablet much of
my phone instead of type typing. I think you just
activated your phone. That was twala, he said, yep, but
it's true. You know you're dictating to your phone. You
don't have to type in its tiny, little, ridiculous keyboard.
We used to have great keyboards, but now not so much.
(15:29):
One week, I have assembled a group of vintage smartphones
that I'll bring in and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Something that has really helped me is I have a
Bluetooth keyboard that I use with my phone, especially when
I'm traveling, as opposed to taking a full laptop. I'll
just take the keyboard and I can type normally as
if I had a full laptop.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, it's as ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
On my blog, there's an article about Samsung decks, which
came out eons ago, and that was where you could
control a monitor with your phone right and that could
be the way to go too.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
But people are loving the laptops for now.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I love how everything old is new again and as
trends change and people's desires change, something that we already
had might be.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Found useful again.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Just make it better.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Marsha Caruer is always great to see you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Good to see you, Mo see next week. You better
believe it.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (16:39):
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Speaker 1 (16:39):
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(17:02):
game or a type of computer, it comes up, so
you don't have to go Google. It's right there as
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Speaker 2 (17:21):
We'd like to have a lot of fun. Why shouldn't
say family atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
We talk about some stuff that the kids should not
be a part of, but we have a good time.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's like we're family.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Something we have talked about on a number of occasions
is Fire Festival, that convention gathering, if you will, which
never happened. It was a big cluster truck, not once,
but twice. Billy McFarlane, one of the original organizers, went
to prison on federal wire fraud charges. Had some twenty
(17:51):
six million he had to pay in restitution, so I
guess one of his kakamami ideas to help do that
was to try a second Firefes and that also fell apart.
His latest attempt to generate revenue was to sell the
IP and also any trademarks and rights to Fire Festival.
(18:14):
He didn't go to a legitimate or traditional auction house,
which probably would have been the way to go, but
most likely a real auction house would have required a
higher percentage than eBay. So Billy McFarland tried to sell
the rights to Fire Festival on eBay. He was hoping
for seven to eight figures. He got low six figures,
(18:39):
In fact, two hundred and forty five three hundred dollars.
I am less surprised that he didn't get seven figures,
and more surprised that he even got six figures. They
haven't announced who actually purchased it, but who in their
right mind would have paid two hundred and forty five
thousand dollars for possibly one of the worst brands of
(19:03):
all time. How do you monetize that? How do you
turn that into some sort of revenue? I honestly don't know, Mark,
Do you have an idea?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
No, it just.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Reminds me of us saying my grandmother used to have
about people having more money than since.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They also said that one man's trash is another's treasure. No,
this is just trash. There is no treasure to be
found here. It's just garbage. It's toxic. I mean, you
would think anything associated with this going forward, it'd be
one thing if you wanted to resurrect a credible brand
or something which has positive nostalgia attached to it.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yeah, this Billy Madoff or Billy Billy McFarland guy, he's
the George Santos of Madoff's.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, but Santos at least did something where he gained
some positive notoriety by being elected to Congress.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
And I mean two things here in the documentary. Right
after he got arrested, he came out with some kind
of like credit card deal or something, and he tried
to sell that almost instantly. So this guy just doesn't learn.
The only way I could see this profitable is if
you used it ironically, because it's just a joke at
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this point.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I don't know if even that because who is going
to spend money on something which is connected with criminality,
with failure, with bait and switch, embarrassment, embarrassment right right?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Are you going to pay for an ironic ticket? I'm
not Yeah, where.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Does this exchange of money come in for two hundred
and forty five thousand dollars. You have the right to
use fire Festival in any way. Let's say it was
a legitimate Let's say a live nation came in and
bought Fire Festival, being really serious here, and they wanted
to have a legitimate festival. I don't know if you
could actually call it fire Festival and get people to
(20:54):
buy in or trust that it's actually going to happen. Now,
in this business, we pay attention to the details. We
know the name Billy McFarlane. We can tell you about
the different documentaries, We can tell you what Billy's been
up to for the past six years or so forth.
But to the casual observer, all they know is it's
(21:16):
a failed festival. I don't know how do you how
do you undo that bad taste in most people's now.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I don't think there's any way to untangle that.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
And and to your point, yeah, Live Aid a reputable company,
even that, I don't think they could resurrect that.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And I don't think they would want to Live Aid.
You mean Live Nation, Live Nation.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Sorry, Yeah, the word that's a slightly different. They actually
did some good. Doesn't it make you think though, of
this trend of absolutely no shame in the United States, particularly,
which has given rise to these absolutely unrepentant and irredeemable
crooks and liars and sleeves bags. I think we need
(21:54):
some shame yet.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
But also, someone told me a long time ago, you
can't shame the shameless. Shame only has value to people
who will recognize shame.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yeah, but the public can act kind of like antibodies
and shun them.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I think that's part of the reason why Fire
Festival Too went nowhere and it wasn't purchased for any
meaningful amount.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Big picture, I'd like to profile anybody who bought one
of those tickets because a few tickets did sell.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
For the second one. You're saying, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, And at this point, I'm not sure
whether any of this is real. A lot of it
is smoke screens. It could have been, and I know
this from working in the music business. It could have
been Billy buying the tickets himself or having a company
buy them on his behalf to give the illusion of value.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I didn't think about that, No, we did that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Let me just tell you some stories when working in
the music business, and I won't say for which company,
but just for every company I worked for, it was
common practice for the first week of an album release
that we would have i'll say sales associates, people who
are working in different regions of the company have them,
(23:10):
and we were set aside budget for them to go
into record stores back when we had record stores and
buy our product to help our sound scan numbers. That
was the company which verified actual sales, and if you
had certain amount of sound scan numbers, that's how you
charted on.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
The Billboard charts. Shenanigan's like that happened with books as well.
It's pretty common and it's gross, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But that's how the business gets down.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But going further with music, if you got on the
music charts, then you can go to radio stations, Hey
is number ten on the Billboard R and B chart.
You have to play this record and you're creating this
quote unquote narrative of a record being hot, and it's
an illusion. That's the point. It's not real. That's what
Billy McFarland was doing. I believe it was creating illusion
(24:01):
of value, not intrinsic value.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Maybe you should try getting him on the show. Although
we couldn't know. You said, no, Twala did reach out
to him, really, yes he did. I don't think you
got any response, but I know Twalla reached out to him.
And if you notice, he hasn't done any real media since.
Maybe the last one he did was when he got released.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Right, He did an interview then, but he was he
was talking on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He did some videos. Twallaw what happened with that? Real quick?
He's coming in right now. You get to reach out
to Billy McFarland, All right, turn on your mic. I did. I.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
I reached out and I hit up the email member
because he was like, I'm down there, come on anyone
show to talk.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To anyone, And he came on Nobody's Nope.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Reached out immediately and sent an email to the contact
number that was listed, and no one, no one ever responded,
not even a hey, will consider it?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Not nothing?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Because I was just like, hey, we've been talking about
the resurgence of Firefest and the potential of selling it.
Uh and we and we are willing to take you
up on your offer to come on and defend your
product and your record on the KFI audience if you
are so willing to do so. I would want to
(25:13):
know if the food that he served at his first
Firefest was better or worse than the food he enjoyed
in prison. It was probably worse, because I'd say better. No,
I don't know, because from the pictures I saw, it
wasn't even a complete meal.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You at least get a complete meal. Oh, you're saying
better in jail. Yeah, yeah, it's probably better.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Yeah, because from my understanding, the people that got the
equivalent of what looked like the type of snack food
or whatever that you get on airplanes, but it wasn't
complete meals, Like everyone got like that half a sanwich that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Would be in the air airline meal.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
And that's what went viral because I didn't even know
about it until I saw that infamous sandy that sandwich
was like, oh, you man kidding me. That wasn't even
like cafeteria styrofoam.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
I was like, that's not the luxury meal calf promises.
It's like cafeteria turkey salaities. I was like, where's the
I think I think there's mayonnaise pack like a little.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It was.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, it was horrible trash.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
When we come back, we got to talk about IMAX
the Odyssey and movie theaters and popcorn bucket wars going on.
Right now, it's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty Winmo Kelly on KM.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app And I am
probably one of Christopher Nolan's biggest fans. I've seen all
of his work. He's one of the few directors. If
he comes out with something I am going to see
it sight unseen. It does not matter. I don't need
to see a trailer. I don't need to see any
(27:00):
type of review. I don't need to have anyone encourage
me to go see a Christopher Nolan movie between And
it doesn't mean that I love everything he does. I
just love the fact that he loves big You were
in big movies, big ideas, high concept movies like an Interstellar,
(27:23):
like a Tenant, like an Oppenheimer, like Batman begins a
Dark Knight trilogy.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Those are the things I love.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
The way he sees movies, the way he sees the
world in a cinematic sense. His next movie is The Odyssey.
It comes out one year from today. And if you
know The Odyssey, it's about the ten years after the
Trojan War, where Odysseus is coming home from the Trojan War.
(27:54):
You probably read some version of it in high school.
It's actually twenty four books, so you didn't read all
of it, but you've probably seen some take on it
over the years. And I can't wait for this what
is really cool, I would say savvy about how they're
marketing this. They've already put tickets on sale for IMAX,
(28:17):
but it's specifically for the seventy millimeter screenings, which is
a higher resolution.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's a horizontal aspect showing. It's about the best way
you can view a movie. Barnett.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And they're selling the tickets now for a year from now,
so they're going to be advertising at a year in evance.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Mark, Is this the one where we saw the trailer
where we surmised that in ancient Greece they talk like
Brooklyn night?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, that was it, all right, Okay, I was just
making sure it's the same movie.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Soa I saw the trailer, we were like, wait, did
they speak the Brooklyn You don't have a trailer out
for this yet? Are you kidding me? We saw when
we went to co see Superman a trailer. Yeah, wasn't it,
John burnhal, Yes, trailer. So so you want to ask
about your father disseus?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Huh is that what you're asking me right now?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
They don't have a trailer.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Oh, I promise you they do. Don't have a trailer.
And you had Spider Man and Tom Holland.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You saw some other movies tell me about my father. Look,
I'll tell you about them. Who wants to tell this
guy about the Disseus? Yeah, who wants to tell him?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You probably saw a version for the you know, the
pro for the home version of Gladiator too had Denzel being.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And this one Odysseus is gonna eat a lot of
the Gabba ghoul.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You ought to know with in these movies, they never
get the accents right. And for whatever reason, when you
have anything that has to do with Greek or Roman history,
they usually have some sort of British accent.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
That would have been fine if it wasn't John Bernthal
giving us the Punisher.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I don't care to Spider manser knowing that's going to
be great.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm not gonna have you slatter this man. I can't
wait till you watch this trailer. You can see what
we were laughing about.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Anyhow, before we run out of time. Uh, movie theater chains.
They have a real battle going on where they are
selling these popcorn buckets with just about every major release.
I didn't know that they were so expensive. They can
cost as much as eighty dollars oh more, absolutely more. Yeah,
(30:27):
the Galactus one's eighty dollars.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
That that one's eighty dollars, the Herbie one, which is
Who's her robot featured the Fantastic four Family robot which
has which holds popcorn, your drink, and a candy treat.
That one I believe is going to be closer to
one hundred. And then they have a Fantastic Car, which
is you know, gonna be somewhere within the eighty ninety range.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, but they have for all the major releases, these
these popcorn buckets that people are no here's this is
the fight.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Some theaters are getting the Galactus Head, some theaters are
getting the Herbie, some are getting the Fantastic Car. Every
theater is trying to fight to get some piece, so.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Not every theater is going to get every popcorn bucket feeder.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Now, some are getting special metal popcorn tins with collectible minifigures.
Some are getting popcorn buckets that have the various characters
kind of superimposed on them along and they're also selling
character specific cups.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean, there's all type of things happening with this.
AMC movie.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Theaters reported that it made sixty five million dollars in
revenue from the sales of movie themed merchandise alone sixty
five million. This is the new form of concessions. Yeah,
we appreciate you buying hot dogs and soda, but please
buy a popcorn bucket before you go.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Yeah, like the Thunderbolts. The Thunderbolts Limo. They had that
exclusively at AMC. That thing was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I've never purchased a popcorn bucket in my life. That's
in like a commemorative.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
I got uh when a fast X came out.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I got the dom Charger popcorn Okay to.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Movie premieres and they'll give you one for free, But
I've never purchased one much.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Uh fifty bucks. Oh damn, you paid fifty bucks for that.
Look trust me.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Next week I'll be coming in here after I see
you Fantastic four with the herbie.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That sounds like a medical condition. I love it.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You can get treated for the herbies, but it keeps
coming back. Yeah, you gotta tell your partner.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That was pretty fun. I must say.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
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Live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
And Marsha Carlier joins us in studio as she's been
known to do each and every Thursday as a part
of our Tech Thursday segment.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Good evening, Marsha, how are you mo?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm doing well. I know you heard our conversation last segment.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I wanted that as kind of elite in about how
quickly our world is changing, how fast technology moves, and
how when I was a kid, I was growing up,
I had an Apple two C. They had the Commodore
sixty four and what have you. And look where we
are now. It's a lot has changed in the intervening years.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, but you know, around the turn of the century,
the US Patent Office closed because they thought everything had
been invented already. So it seems that these innovations come
in waves, destroy them, then we make more stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's a cycle that keeps going.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you ever unsettled? Because technology is what you do.
Do you ever look at a technology and say, like, Ooh,
I don't know if our society is ready for it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Uh? You know, it's not me to judge society, but
I often wonder why why do we have to have
like Google Maps had three updates in one week?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What has changed?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Was there a bug?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Shouldn't you have figured that out for the second update?
I mean, how many bugs you know you put out?
I don't understand. It's like a self feeding industry. They
have to make it better and make the buildings three
D on the map, you know, do this, do that?
Do we really need it? How far do we need
to go? And the same thing with Ai.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No, But I would say the answer is always competition,
because Google is in competition with any other maps creator
or emerging technology which one wants to take its place exactly.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
But people are going to choose in this society the
way we are. You're Apple or you're Android, true, or
you're both, and same thing with politics, you're either one
or the other or you're both.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
So you know, people have to just decide what.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Makes them happy, what they need to look for, and
maybe you don't want to load up with a bunch
of apps like it's still on the boat. But I'm
going to be testing out a new Chromebook and see
if I can exist on a Chromebook, which chromebooks are
half the price of a regular.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Computer and half the capability.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But do I really need all that capability? Okay, I
mean that's the question.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I don't do video, I don't do audio cuts.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Everything is writing to me. Can I do it?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And you know, it's kind of funny because there was
another person who's in tech, who was on the radio
who said, you know, I go to the event, and
I know because I saw the device in ISA. Unless
you have something in your hands so you play with
it for a month, you really you can't know how
good it is, how much you enjoy it, because really
(03:27):
the flaws start to show up as you're using it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Speaking of flaws, I remember once upon a time I
had a friend who had a Commodore sixty four and
I thought it was absolutely wonderful. Couldn't do much back then,
but it did a hell of a lot more than
anything else we had at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Remember writing code in you could get a rainbow or
little airplanes flying.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I look, I was pretty good at writing in basic.
I was pretty good at it. That was something when
I first I used to run my computer lab in
high school and we were programming in basic and I
had a very very very rudimentary game that I created.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And it was fun.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes, it was fun because.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You had accomplishment. You did something simple basically it wasn't
hard to learn. No, no, not at all, and you
got a reward. Maybe that would be beneficial. But right
now they're coming back. Some guy just went out a
YouTuber and he announced that he bought Commodore. He got
(04:34):
all new everything, every patent, everything that has to do
with it, and he's coming out with the Commodore sixty.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Four again in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, and it's on our screen right now.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What would the Commodore sixty four be able to do
in today's world?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well, let me tell you. He's ramped up the interior
just a little bit. Okay, he's got three models, but
basically they all have the same guts. It's got a
an AMD chip, one hundred and twenty eight megabytes of
DDR two RAM, sixteen megabytes of nor flash memory, supports
(05:15):
full HD ten ADP video over video out over HDMI
so you can plug it. Yeah anything plus classic DN eight.
If you remember cvbs S video and RGBO.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You're really going deep. Well, that RGB monitor.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They want to keep it, you know, just but when
they said has an Hdmi cable. I'm going fantastic, right,
this is great, and it comes with which is pretty amazing,
over an amazing amount of games. It's compatible with over
ten thousand of the original Commodore sixty four games.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't you?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You have the option to play both cartridges and also
the analog tapes that could be connected to it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Data sets and disk drive, so it had Yeah, I
grew up with the disk drive.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
I learned how to spell on the Comedter sixty four.
You could have cartridges, disc like five inch floppy disks
which you barely find nowadays, and the cassette player cat right,
really versatile machine.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
So you've got a fan right there.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
So Sam, just so you know, the basic version, which
is a copy of the original in boring beige, is
going to come out for.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Two ninety nine ninety nine during pre sale.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Then they have a Starlight Edition for three forty nine
which provides a color changing LED transparent case, so it's
not beige. It's kind of groovy. I don't know if
that would just track to from the games. And they
have a Founder's Edition for four ninety nine that provides
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color changing LED translucent case. A twenty four carrot gold
plated badge, satin gold keys, a translucent amber case, and
a commemorative Commodore gold seal.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I love all things retro. I just don't know if
i'd love it for five hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, that is a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So for those of you, it's expected to ship in
October and if you want to go.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
To just in time for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah there you what a shock.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Amazing, it's a coincidence.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But Jese prices are pre order. Just go to commodore
dot net for more information. But another thing.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Is this, you have to tune into our YouTube so
you can see this is very cool.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
What I'm showing is the box for the NES Classic
Edition and this.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Which is an Nintendo Entertainment system.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Go ahead, and it's miniature. It's a miniature old style Nintendo.
It's got thirty classic games built into it, so you
don't have to stick a cartridge.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
At anything, nothing.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And it looks exactly because I wrote eBay for dummies,
I keep everything in the original box.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So it fits in the palm of your hand as
opposed to a game console, which is.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
The size of like a laptop.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Caper exactly exactly, and you can use it with just
about anything.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But the games are all built in. This and this
you can get.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It was under fifty dollars when I first got it,
but now it's around one hundred dollars. And there's an
s NES version too, but these are a little cheaper
and with the games built in, can't lose?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Now? Is that available?
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Can I purchase that?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Now?
Speaker 8 (08:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I looked it up just because I wanted to find
the current prices on it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Uh huh, Yeah, it's available now.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It's the Neees Classic Edition and it's pretty fabulous.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I think I might have to go purchase that.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I mean it has Zelda, Super Mario, Free three, Final
Fantasy Things you'd like, Ninja something.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Better have, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong. Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Legend of Zelday's Adventure, pac Man, Metroid, Super Mario Brothers.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Oh, now you're speaking of my life right right.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's got games, and it's got Super Mario Brothers three,
Punch Out.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Castle, Yes, and Castlevania.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, Stephan, it's time to yeah show and yeah, my
birthday's coming up in November.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Make it happen, happening.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But this is so cool.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Let's go to break real quickly when we come back.
That's not the only computer news that you have to
share with us, right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, there's always news and computers.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
We'll talk about it next with Marshall Collyer. It's Later
with Mo Kelly caf I AM six forty OnLive everywhere
in the I Heart Radio.
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Speaker 1 (09:57):
Kf I AM six forty is Later with mo Kelly
live on social media and the iHeartRadio app. We're still
in conversation with one of our favorite people, a regular commentator,
Marsha Collier, who joins us in studio.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Last segment, she told us.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
About the comeback of the NYES, the Nintendo Entertainment System
and the Commodore sixty four. But that's not the only
comeback in the world of computers.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
What do you think is the hottest gadget of the decade,
of the decade, It's probably not what you think.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I honestly don't know. I can't pick one item personal computer.
See I would have said like the smartphone or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You know, everybody has a smartphone, everybody has a tablet,
video game console, got that other electronics, but really none
of them substitute for a laptop.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
True, true, and you need the personal computer.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
And obviously sales went through the roof during the pandemic
because everybody had to zoom and everybody was at home
and blah.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
What's interesting is that the market is turning around, according
to IDC, and they are the people who know, they
count everybody's sales, that it's going to be a PC world.
I mean, they're going to be laptops galore. It's interesting
desktops are still selling.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Desktops like the towers and everything. Yep. I have just
full disclosure. I have a desktop.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's not a tower, but it's a small computer for
my audio editing at home. I have a laptop which
is PC for audio editing. This just because the auto
editing software doesn't exist on Android. But if I could,
I would just have a Chrome book, which, like your lifestyle,
(11:57):
more fits my lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It doesn't need to do much.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'll just let you know. It is kind of announced
this week that Chrome and Android, Chrome Book, Chrome OS
and Android are going to merge, So that'll be a
story for another day. Hopefully it'll lead to better software.
That's what they're saying and apps, I should say that's
that's what they're saying. So anyway, people are still buying desktops,
(12:23):
believe it or not. People are buying detachable tablets. You know,
the laptops where the tablet snaps off.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I have one of those. I'm not a fan. Neither
am I because it doesn't sit on my lap. It's
not a tablet.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, yeah, I always need the keyboard attached.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, it's a hunk of plastic that you want it
to be a laptop, but it isn't.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Let me see.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Slate tablets are still selling, but that's way down, believe
it or no.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
That's nothing but notebooks.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
The sales are insane and they are getting stronger and
stronger by the year. And there are a lot of
options that people. There are so many options that you
can get. We talked about chromebook. When you buy a laptop, do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
You want to touch screen?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Do you? Mom?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I actually do.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I have one laptop which is a PC think Pad,
which is not touchscreen. This is touchscreen. I actually appreciate
a touchscreen you do.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I do.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I do, maybe because I've used it enough where there
are times where I want to zoom in on something
and I can just gesture it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I do this to books right right there.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I kind of want that, And maybe it's an age thing.
Sometimes I just need to expand that text just a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The fonts a little too small, Yeah, just a little
bit bigger.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But you know, computers mixed PCs with the tablets and
smartphones making one devices. So you've got the touchstreen screen
laptop and to tablets, and why can't there be especially
with the new Chrome OS and Android going together, why
(14:09):
can't your phone go through your laptop. There's no reason
why it should.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It can. There's they are apps.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't want to get too far afield, but yes,
because of Chrome, everything is SYNCD between my phone and
my laptop, and I can send anything on my phone
to my laptop.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But it's because I know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's not as easy for someone who would not have
any experience doing that.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, it's going to be fun, but sales of tablets
and smartphones peaked years ago. Tablets have a niche, but
everybody's got a phone and people are holding onto phones
longer and longer.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now I don't need a tablet if I have a phone,
because as far as I'm concerned, the tablet.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Is a phone that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Can't dial, because my phone is pretty much like a
small tablet, and if I want something larger than that,
I need a real keyboard, which means laptop, not tablet.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
You know, I've started dictating to my tablet much of
my phone instead of type typing. I think you just
activated your phone. That was twala, he said, yep, but
it's true. You know you're dictating to your phone. You
don't have to type in its tiny, little, ridiculous keyboard.
We used to have great keyboards, but now not so much.
(15:29):
One week, I have assembled a group of vintage smartphones
that I'll bring in and we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Something that has really helped me is I have a
Bluetooth keyboard that I use with my phone, especially when
I'm traveling, as opposed to taking a full laptop. I'll
just take the keyboard and I can type normally as
if I had a full laptop.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, it's as ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
On my blog, there's an article about Samsung decks, which
came out eons ago, and that was where you could
control a monitor with your phone right and that could
be the way to go too.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
But people are loving the laptops for now.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I love how everything old is new again and as
trends change and people's desires change, something that we already
had might be.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Found useful again.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Just make it better.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Marsha Caruer is always great to see you.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Good to see you, Mo see next week. You better
believe it.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
KFI.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's Later with Mo Kelly live everywhere on social media
and the iHeartRadio app. Be sure to tune into the
video simulcast. It's all sorts of fun and the things
that we talk about, the movies, we discuss, whatever's going
on in the news. There's a video component to it
thanks to our video technical director Daniel, so it's a
completely different experience. When we make reference to a video
(17:02):
game or a type of computer, it comes up, so
you don't have to go Google. It's right there as
part of the show. It's interactive. We talked to you,
we'll read some of your comments on the air from
the Motown Chat. So come join us at mister Mokelly
on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and you know it's a family atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
We'd like to have a lot of fun. Why shouldn't
say family atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
We talk about some stuff that the kids should not
be a part of, but we have a good time.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's like we're family.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Something we have talked about on a number of occasions
is Fire Festival, that convention gathering, if you will, which
never happened. It was a big cluster truck, not once,
but twice. Billy McFarlane, one of the original organizers, went
to prison on federal wire fraud charges. Had some twenty
(17:51):
six million he had to pay in restitution, so I
guess one of his kakamami ideas to help do that
was to try a second Firefes and that also fell apart.
His latest attempt to generate revenue was to sell the
IP and also any trademarks and rights to Fire Festival.
(18:14):
He didn't go to a legitimate or traditional auction house,
which probably would have been the way to go, but
most likely a real auction house would have required a
higher percentage than eBay. So Billy McFarland tried to sell
the rights to Fire Festival on eBay. He was hoping
for seven to eight figures. He got low six figures,
(18:39):
In fact, two hundred and forty five three hundred dollars.
I am less surprised that he didn't get seven figures,
and more surprised that he even got six figures. They
haven't announced who actually purchased it, but who in their
right mind would have paid two hundred and forty five
thousand dollars for possibly one of the worst brands of
(19:03):
all time. How do you monetize that? How do you
turn that into some sort of revenue? I honestly don't know, Mark,
Do you have an idea?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
No, it just.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
Reminds me of us saying my grandmother used to have
about people having more money than since.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They also said that one man's trash is another's treasure. No,
this is just trash. There is no treasure to be
found here. It's just garbage. It's toxic. I mean, you
would think anything associated with this going forward, it'd be
one thing if you wanted to resurrect a credible brand
or something which has positive nostalgia attached to it.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Yeah, this Billy Madoff or Billy Billy McFarland guy, he's
the George Santos of Madoff's.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, but Santos at least did something where he gained
some positive notoriety by being elected to Congress.
Speaker 9 (19:53):
And I mean two things here in the documentary. Right
after he got arrested, he came out with some kind
of like credit card deal or something, and he tried
to sell that almost instantly. So this guy just doesn't learn.
The only way I could see this profitable is if
you used it ironically, because it's just a joke at
(20:13):
this point.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I don't know if even that because who is going
to spend money on something which is connected with criminality,
with failure, with bait and switch, embarrassment, embarrassment right right?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Are you going to pay for an ironic ticket? I'm
not Yeah, where.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Does this exchange of money come in for two hundred
and forty five thousand dollars. You have the right to
use fire Festival in any way. Let's say it was
a legitimate Let's say a live nation came in and
bought Fire Festival, being really serious here, and they wanted
to have a legitimate festival. I don't know if you
could actually call it fire Festival and get people to
(20:54):
buy in or trust that it's actually going to happen. Now,
in this business, we pay attention to the details. We
know the name Billy McFarlane. We can tell you about
the different documentaries, We can tell you what Billy's been
up to for the past six years or so forth.
But to the casual observer, all they know is it's
(21:16):
a failed festival. I don't know how do you how
do you undo that bad taste in most people's now.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I don't think there's any way to untangle that.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
And and to your point, yeah, Live Aid a reputable company,
even that, I don't think they could resurrect that.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And I don't think they would want to Live Aid.
You mean Live Nation, Live Nation.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Sorry, Yeah, the word that's a slightly different. They actually
did some good. Doesn't it make you think though, of
this trend of absolutely no shame in the United States, particularly,
which has given rise to these absolutely unrepentant and irredeemable
crooks and liars and sleeves bags. I think we need
(21:54):
some shame yet.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
But also, someone told me a long time ago, you
can't shame the shameless. Shame only has value to people
who will recognize shame.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yeah, but the public can act kind of like antibodies
and shun them.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I think that's part of the reason why Fire
Festival Too went nowhere and it wasn't purchased for any
meaningful amount.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Big picture, I'd like to profile anybody who bought one
of those tickets because a few tickets did sell.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
For the second one. You're saying, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know, And at this point, I'm not sure
whether any of this is real. A lot of it
is smoke screens. It could have been, and I know
this from working in the music business. It could have
been Billy buying the tickets himself or having a company
buy them on his behalf to give the illusion of value.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I didn't think about that, No, we did that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Let me just tell you some stories when working in
the music business, and I won't say for which company,
but just for every company I worked for, it was
common practice for the first week of an album release
that we would have i'll say sales associates, people who
are working in different regions of the company have them,
(23:10):
and we were set aside budget for them to go
into record stores back when we had record stores and
buy our product to help our sound scan numbers. That
was the company which verified actual sales, and if you
had certain amount of sound scan numbers, that's how you
charted on.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
The Billboard charts. Shenanigan's like that happened with books as well.
It's pretty common and it's gross, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
But that's how the business gets down.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But going further with music, if you got on the
music charts, then you can go to radio stations, Hey
is number ten on the Billboard R and B chart.
You have to play this record and you're creating this
quote unquote narrative of a record being hot, and it's
an illusion. That's the point. It's not real. That's what
Billy McFarland was doing. I believe it was creating illusion
(24:01):
of value, not intrinsic value.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Maybe you should try getting him on the show. Although
we couldn't know. You said, no, Twala did reach out
to him, really, yes he did. I don't think you
got any response, but I know Twalla reached out to him.
And if you notice, he hasn't done any real media since.
Maybe the last one he did was when he got released.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Right, He did an interview then, but he was he
was talking on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
He did some videos. Twallaw what happened with that? Real quick?
He's coming in right now. You get to reach out
to Billy McFarland, All right, turn on your mic. I did. I.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
I reached out and I hit up the email member
because he was like, I'm down there, come on anyone
show to talk.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
To anyone, And he came on Nobody's Nope.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Reached out immediately and sent an email to the contact
number that was listed, and no one, no one ever responded,
not even a hey, will consider it?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Not nothing?
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Because I was just like, hey, we've been talking about
the resurgence of Firefest and the potential of selling it.
Uh and we and we are willing to take you
up on your offer to come on and defend your
product and your record on the KFI audience if you
are so willing to do so. I would want to
(25:13):
know if the food that he served at his first
Firefest was better or worse than the food he enjoyed
in prison. It was probably worse, because I'd say better. No,
I don't know, because from the pictures I saw, it
wasn't even a complete meal.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
You at least get a complete meal. Oh, you're saying
better in jail. Yeah, yeah, it's probably better.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Yeah, because from my understanding, the people that got the
equivalent of what looked like the type of snack food
or whatever that you get on airplanes, but it wasn't
complete meals, Like everyone got like that half a sanwich that.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Would be in the air airline meal.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
And that's what went viral because I didn't even know
about it until I saw that infamous sandy that sandwich
was like, oh, you man kidding me. That wasn't even
like cafeteria styrofoam.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
I was like, that's not the luxury meal calf promises.
It's like cafeteria turkey salaities. I was like, where's the
I think I think there's mayonnaise pack like a little.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It was.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, it was horrible trash.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
When we come back, we got to talk about IMAX
the Odyssey and movie theaters and popcorn bucket wars going on.
Right now, it's Later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty Winmo Kelly on KM.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Six live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app And I am
probably one of Christopher Nolan's biggest fans. I've seen all
of his work. He's one of the few directors. If
he comes out with something I am going to see
it sight unseen. It does not matter. I don't need
to see a trailer. I don't need to see any
(27:00):
type of review. I don't need to have anyone encourage
me to go see a Christopher Nolan movie between And
it doesn't mean that I love everything he does. I
just love the fact that he loves big You were
in big movies, big ideas, high concept movies like an Interstellar,
(27:23):
like a Tenant, like an Oppenheimer, like Batman begins a
Dark Knight trilogy.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Those are the things I love.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
The way he sees movies, the way he sees the
world in a cinematic sense. His next movie is The Odyssey.
It comes out one year from today. And if you
know The Odyssey, it's about the ten years after the
Trojan War, where Odysseus is coming home from the Trojan War.
(27:54):
You probably read some version of it in high school.
It's actually twenty four books, so you didn't read all
of it, but you've probably seen some take on it
over the years. And I can't wait for this what
is really cool, I would say savvy about how they're
marketing this. They've already put tickets on sale for IMAX,
(28:17):
but it's specifically for the seventy millimeter screenings, which is
a higher resolution.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It's a horizontal aspect showing. It's about the best way
you can view a movie. Barnett.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
And they're selling the tickets now for a year from now,
so they're going to be advertising at a year in evance.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Mark, Is this the one where we saw the trailer
where we surmised that in ancient Greece they talk like
Brooklyn night?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, that was it, all right, Okay, I was just
making sure it's the same movie.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Soa I saw the trailer, we were like, wait, did
they speak the Brooklyn You don't have a trailer out
for this yet? Are you kidding me? We saw when
we went to co see Superman a trailer. Yeah, wasn't it,
John burnhal, Yes, trailer. So so you want to ask
about your father disseus?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Huh is that what you're asking me right now?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
They don't have a trailer.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Oh, I promise you they do. Don't have a trailer.
And you had Spider Man and Tom Holland.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You saw some other movies tell me about my father. Look,
I'll tell you about them. Who wants to tell this
guy about the Disseus? Yeah, who wants to tell him?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You probably saw a version for the you know, the
pro for the home version of Gladiator too had Denzel being.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
And this one Odysseus is gonna eat a lot of
the Gabba ghoul.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
You ought to know with in these movies, they never
get the accents right. And for whatever reason, when you
have anything that has to do with Greek or Roman history,
they usually have some sort of British accent.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
That would have been fine if it wasn't John Bernthal
giving us the Punisher.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I don't care to Spider manser knowing that's going to
be great.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I'm not gonna have you slatter this man. I can't
wait till you watch this trailer. You can see what
we were laughing about.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Anyhow, before we run out of time. Uh, movie theater chains.
They have a real battle going on where they are
selling these popcorn buckets with just about every major release.
I didn't know that they were so expensive. They can
cost as much as eighty dollars oh more, absolutely more. Yeah,
(30:27):
the Galactus one's eighty dollars.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
That that one's eighty dollars, the Herbie one, which is
Who's her robot featured the Fantastic four Family robot which
has which holds popcorn, your drink, and a candy treat.
That one I believe is going to be closer to
one hundred. And then they have a Fantastic Car, which
is you know, gonna be somewhere within the eighty ninety range.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, but they have for all the major releases, these
these popcorn buckets that people are no here's this is
the fight.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
Some theaters are getting the Galactus Head, some theaters are
getting the Herbie, some are getting the Fantastic Car. Every
theater is trying to fight to get some piece, so.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Not every theater is going to get every popcorn bucket feeder.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Now, some are getting special metal popcorn tins with collectible minifigures.
Some are getting popcorn buckets that have the various characters
kind of superimposed on them along and they're also selling
character specific cups.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean, there's all type of things happening with this.
AMC movie.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Theaters reported that it made sixty five million dollars in
revenue from the sales of movie themed merchandise alone sixty
five million. This is the new form of concessions. Yeah,
we appreciate you buying hot dogs and soda, but please
buy a popcorn bucket before you go.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
Yeah, like the Thunderbolts. The Thunderbolts Limo. They had that
exclusively at AMC. That thing was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I've never purchased a popcorn bucket in my life. That's
in like a commemorative.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
I got uh when a fast X came out.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
I got the dom Charger popcorn Okay to.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Movie premieres and they'll give you one for free, But
I've never purchased one much.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Uh fifty bucks. Oh damn, you paid fifty bucks for that.
Look trust me.
Speaker 7 (32:19):
Next week I'll be coming in here after I see
you Fantastic four with the herbie.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That sounds like a medical condition. I love it.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You can get treated for the herbies, but it keeps
coming back. Yeah, you gotta tell your partner.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That was pretty fun. I must say.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
If I am six forty, we're live everywhere in the
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