June 21, 2025 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at who made the list of the “75 Best R&B Artists of All Time” (according to Billboard) … PLUS – Mark Rahner has a review of the new Danny Boyle/Alex Garland "auteur horror story” ‘28 Years Later’ in The Rahner Report AND Mo’ delves into the 50th anniversary of ‘Jaws’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty six.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're live on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,
and the iHeartRadio app. Let's talk about Billboard Magazine. Billboard,
I've had friends who worked over there for the better
part of thirty years. In fact, one person, Gail Mitchell,
friend of mine, was a part of a group of
Billboard writers and editorialists who put together this list of
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the seventy five best R and B artists of all time.
If there's anything that I know, it's R and B
in terms of music genre. I personally I could have
sat on this editorial board and done a better job
on this list, and I have no problem saying it.
In fact, Gail Mitchell, I'm going to give you a
call probably at some point and see if I can
get you on the show. Then have you explained yourself
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top seventy five R and B artists of all time
according to the staff picks at Billboard Magazine Scene and
I'm gonna run through these real quickly. Number seventy five
Ruth Brown, that's fine, she predates Free Charles Andretha Franklin.
Number seventy four Summer Walker. That's fine. You know when
we get to the top fifty, well, we'll really no
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Eda James at seventy three at last, Yeah, Sunday kind
of love.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
All right, we'll see how you said us a bench. Yah.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know, hones to say, is this person really better
than Eda James because it says best r and B artists,
It didn't say best singer. So I'm looking at the
totality of your career. Number seventy two Jackie Wilson absolutely
should be on the list. Absolutely, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Number seventy one Kisha Cole, Okay, did this where we start?
Works Star? Well, rocky Star.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I worked with Keisha Cole when I was at Interscope Records. Okay,
not a bad artist, just not top seventy anything of
all time anyway, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very good singer, yeah, but not better than even Edit James.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What are we doing right now? Number seventy Her I'll
hear this out, I'll hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, her is a phenomenal vocalist, phenomenal vocals and even
a musician. I mean, well, she's getting guitar and everything,
so I'll listen to it. Yes, on the top seventy five, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, Number six sixty nine Bobby Woo Mack.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Sure, he's on the list. He's on the list.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And if you don't know some of these names, you
may not be in the weeds as much as someone
like me when it comes to R and B music.
But it also sometimes says like, wait a minute, I've
heard of Edda James. How is this person above Edda James? Like,
for example, and you would not be wrong in many instances.
Phillis Hyman. Yeah, her her career was cut short because
she unfortunately took her own life, but as a vocalist
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jazz and R and B stellar, Yeah, one of the
premiere yes oh on. Janine Coveny also was on this.
So we got two people we know, Okay, all right.
Number sixty seven Tank Foh, there's no way Tank is
the top seventy five of anything. And you probably say,
who's Tank exactly? That's my point. Number sixty six Keith Sweat,
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he had about two albums. He's not top seventy five.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Cank you.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Keith Sweat is a great artist, phenomenal songwriter we're talking about,
and I guess we needed some type of breakdown for
what it is that they're looking for you talking about
people are who are touring people that you like. But
if you're talking about voice is best singers is what
I think you're looking for when you look for the
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top R and B anything, but Sweat does not have.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He's not even a good singer. He did not write
his music. I like his music, but as far as
wasn't a great performer nothing. They made fun of his dancing.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, he's like a Backstreet boy by himself, right, rights,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Number sixty five Tina Marie should not be as low
on this list as shit. Yeah, she should actually be higher.
Ye sixty four, let us see. I think of her
more as a jazz artist than an R and B artist.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, that's the only thing. Great vocalist, phenomenal vocalist.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
If she should be on a list if we're talking
about singers, yes, because her voice is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes. Number sixty three Music Soul Child.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm personally fond of music Soul Child, and he writes
his music, I'll allow it. I'll allow it for now
for now. Number sixty two Anthony Hamilton. Yes, yes he's
on the list.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
YEP. Number sixty one Ashanti.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We have to stop the whole list right now, stop
this list and put this list.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Where it belong, and that's in the garbage.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ashanti and I say, this is someone who's been on
this show respectfully. Oh really, Yeah, she came out talking
about a Christmas movie. She's a fine for former. She's
a studio singer.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
She is not.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
She is not holding her own vocally against like a philisheymis.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
She's not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, she's got maybe three or four hits. Number sixty Neo,
hell no, hell no, way, hell no. Number fifty nine, Fantasia.
I think she's a great singer. She's not top seventy
five to anything. I don't think she's had more than
two hits. I'm being serious. That's yeah, that's that's even
being Yeah. Good foundation. Fifty eight people Bryson, Yes, yes,
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fifty seven. Tevin Campbell, Yes, yeah, yes, can we talk.
That's an all time classic song.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But his voice, no on that.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
His voice as a singer, R and B singer, his
voice is legendary, his voice is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Discovered by Quincy Jones. Yes, number fifty six. I know
who this is. Most people don't Joe great songwriter, decent singer,
but he doesn't have a catalog to be in the
top seventy arm I can't.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Hear that, but argument, but he's been out for like
thirty years showing it, and his voice is never faught.
Joe has a phenomenal voice. He just he's just so
unsung because he goes by Joe, right, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Could hear it, but he should be a little bit lower.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Oh no, no, wait lower, closer to closer than the seventy Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Number fifty five, Natalie Cole, I'll allow it, okay, Number
fifty four, Jasmine Sullivan. Hale's no, Hale's no else, no
like that either. I mean she had one hit, a
bust the windows at your car sick. Number fifty three
Jill Scott, Yes, and could be higher by the end
of her career.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Should be higher. Daniel says that too. Number fifty two.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Stephanie Mills, Yes, yes, yes, she might even be top fifty,
but still she should be.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, number fifty one.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Rick James, Yes, yeah, yes, higher, yeah, right, number fifty
John Legend, he's on the list.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
He's on the list. I'll hear it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, we'll see who else is on here, right fifty right,
Bobby Brown forty nine. I never thought he was the
king of R and B. But as far as influence
and impact.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Influencing impact, if you throw, its not the great He's not. No,
he's not the most stellar sing He wasn't the most
stellar singer in the group. You know, I know, I
love Bobby Love Bobby Brown, king of Army influence.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's not a disc no, And we're talking about people
that we dealt with a lot of these a lot
of these newer artists.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I am partially responsible for the records being heard and
played in the first place. Number forty eight Lauren Hill.
I don't like her as a person and how she
does her concerts and not showing up.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But I've heard that. Oh yeah, number forty seven the weekend.
I'll say yes, if only because once you do a
Super Bowl halftime show by yourself, you're.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
In the conversation club. But he has a great voice. Yeah,
he's a great singer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Number forty six Rianna Eh.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Singer er, Well, this is an artist.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So if you want to throw total her career, yeah, okay,
forty five DiAngelo, yes, yes, number forty four Sizza, No,
get back to me in ten years. I mean she's
not too new, yeah, not more impactful as an R
and B artist.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And Edna James, for example, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Or Stephanie Mills, she's right, boff, Stephanie Mills. And I
think Sizza would say, don't put me above Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
We got to go to a commercial break and then
we'll come back with the Top forty three and we're
going to really piss you off. In the chat, the
Motown chat, they're throwing out names of who they think
should be in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Who is it who said that Chris Brown better be
in the top ten?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You better stop, you better stop some stock who sat
Aaron Eaton says Donny Hathaway.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm with you, Aaron Eaton On, Donnie Hathaway.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Eric Losardo says Rick James should be above Legend, John
Legend and Bobby Brown.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Eaton is looking for Curtis Mayfield, Well, yep, you're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
He's got to be way up top. Lisa's looking. Lisa's
looking for Marvin Gay and Barry White.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We haven't gotten to the top forty or so, so
I expect to see them there.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty AM.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Six forty is later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere
the iHeartRadio app. We're going through the top seventy five
R and B artists of all time according to Billboard,
but was short on time, so we're going to jump
up to number twenty five and get to the good
part coming in a number twenty five according to Billboard
Magazine of the best R and B artists of all time,
Patti LaBelle. I think she should be higher, but I'll
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hold out and see who is ranked above her. Number
twenty four. Bill Withers. I would say yes if you
know the depth of his music catalog as a writer.
He stopped singing relatively early in his career walked away,
but his music catalog is it's up there. Number twenty
three Teddy Pendergrass. His music career was cut short because
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of a car accident. But I'll allow it, and I
admit I'm partial with Teddy Pendographs. Yeah, yeah, number twenty two.
This guy should have been top ten. Luther Vandross, Yeah,
twenty top five. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Once you see who's in the top five, you'll see like, okay,
well maybe not top five, but yeah, Luther someone I
did work with, so yes, I'm partial.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I've heard him seeing live doing jingles. This man's voice
is flawless.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's with the exception of maybe Donnie Hathaway, the most
perfect voice I've ever heard a.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Number twenty one Donnie Hathaway. They put them next to
each other for right, for a reason.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And if you don't know who Donnie Hathaway is, this
Christmas hang all the missile though, that's Donnie Hathaway. Number
twenty Otis Redding. I don't think he should be ranked
a side. I don't think he should be above Yeah no,
I mean was he influential, yeah, but not above Luther.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No. And I don't think he's top twenty. I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know, he had a few songs, but not top twenty.
As far as career impact, Number nineteen, Smokey Robinson, he
may drop by the end of these lawsuits. I'm sorry
that was messed up. Number eighteen Al Green, Yes, yep, yeah,
he's top twenty. Yeah, yeah, Number seventeen. I'm surprised that
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she's this low. Janet Jackson, it's kind of hard to
be world famous and you have hits over three different
decades and you're not even in the top fifteen. I
think Jenny would have been here. Yeah again I'm partial.
I did work with her Virgin Records. No, see, this
is what I mean. How can you have Mary J.
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Blige at sixteen and Janet Jackson at seventeen. Don't tell
me that Mary J. Blige's career was half as impactful
as Janet Jackson.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And for folks who know me, they'll know what I
mean by this. Mary J.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Blige is black famous. You know, if you're R and
B fan, you know who Mary J. Blige Janet Jackson
is world famous. You've worked with both. Actually, that's true.
You forget after a why, Yeah, it's true. I forget
number fifteen. Isaac Hayes, Yes, yeah, yeah, Academy award, Yeah,
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number fourteen. People are asking about this person. Curtis Mayfield, Yeah, sure, agreed. Yeah,
we can quit a lot of ranking, but it's in
the in the bright spot area. Number thirteen. Sam Cook absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the change is gonna come number twelve. Ussher Hey, hey,
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well man, hey, not that high, not that high, not
that high, But you could say his career as far
as being world famous.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
He it's almost like the Janet Jackson in my generation. Yeah, yeah,
not here. Man.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
He could be in the top twenty, but he should
not be above.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Luther, uh Luther or Curtis Mayfield or Curtis may any
of the people that you know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
He should be at the tail end of the top twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
For some people, they're talking about just number of hits,
and hits are relative. Okay, Usher doesn't have type of
discography where they'll be playing his music one hundred years
from now. Curtis Mayfield, Yes, coming in number eleven. This
might be a little low for me. Of course. I'm
partial Ray Charles.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I love Ray Charles.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, I think he's top ten no matter what. Yeah,
we'll see who's in the top ten real quick. Number
ten Marvin Gay. Now see I would pick Ray Charles
over Marvin Gay.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, you know it's got to be relative. Number nine,
Oh boy, oh my god, our freaking Kelly.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Hey man, come on, hey, come look hey.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, you know we're not even discussed now, hell no, No.
Number eight.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Mariah Carey, no, yes, Mariah Carey, yes, yeah, it was Kelly.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah. Number seven Prince yes, yeah, yeah, no, but.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
As artists, oh yeah that that yeah, it was a
little too yeah, i'll tell you, Prince.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, well that's not as high. But he's in top
twenty for you. Top twenty, okay, okay, okay. Number six
James Brown, yes, yeah, yeah yeah. Number five Whitney Houston, Okay,
definitely all right, yeah, yeah, I can get that one.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah. I can't argue that Number four Beyonce not above Whitney.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But you know, if you put in the totality of
her career, she's got four hundred and fifty Grammys and
her tours, you know, I would just say influence alone,
yeah yeah, influence.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, but with thee the inview influenced every one.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But Whitney unfortunately did not become the star in the
age of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Number three Michael Jackson Okay, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would have had him over Number two Aretha Franklin
and I love me some Maretha frank one, but I
would put Michael above. She broke down some barriers. I
mean it was that's the thing. Aretha. Half of her
career was gospel music. Yes, and we're talking R and
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B yeah, since this is John Respec Okay, got to
hurry from Mark Runner and coming in number one. They
got this right. The greatest r and B artists of
all time, Stevie Wonder, Steve Land Morris cannot. I can't
argue that the Billboard. I give you this one, they
got that one.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
They got right.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Forty talks about pontificates about pop culture. Ron and Report
with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I am sixty's to Runner Report with Mark Ronner, Take
it away.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Tonight, twenty eight years later. First off, the original movie
twenty eight days Later came out in two thousand and two.
And I know math is hard, but this is twenty
twenty five, so that's twenty three years later. Screw you
for that, filmmakers. Oh the movie is set twenty eight
years later.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Whatever. Here's some of the trailer episode many dead, infected,
non infected alike. That's why our whole is so precious.
You know, I feel he's a bit young, he's ready
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to change. Thanks you never once you walk onto that mainland,
there's no rescue.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Warming up and down again.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Look at what's in front of you.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
That's cool, and you got a lot of zombies chasing
after people. The tons and tons of people watch the trailer.
It's really good, it's really effective, and it uses I
believe in old Rudyard Kipling poem. The movie set twenty
eight are Let's get caught up, Let's get everything straight.
Twenty eight days Later was the first one, and it
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wasn't technically a zombie movie because it was about a
rage virus that spread quickly among humans and made them
act just like zombies. You don't have to listen to
everything filmmakers tell you about their stuff. It's a zombie
movie if you remember that movie with Killian Murphy, who
was one of the first ones that depicted zombies running
like bats out of hell, like Zack Snyder's Down of
the Dead remake two years later, and now the Fungus
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zombies and the Last of Us on HBO.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Sorry Max.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
These aren't the old, drunk looking George Romero zombies that
shuffle around and move almost as slow as a slee
stack from land to the loss. These guys run really fast.
They run like they're being chased by ice agents and
a strawberry field. Twenty eight weeks later, came out in
two thousand and seven and scarred the Scottish actor Robert Carlyle,
although it was focused more on his kids in that movie,
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watchable not as good as the first one. This new one,
twenty eight years later is from the same team director
Danny Boyle and Alex Garland, the writer of the first one,
which is enough of a pedigree to get my ass
into a theater and not wait for it to show
up on TV. Danny Boyle directed Trainspotting, slum Dog, Millionaire, Sunshine,
lots of others. The real draw for me is Garland,
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who gave a civil war last year as a director
and writer Ex Machina, Annihilation, Men, and a great mini
series called Devs Haven't Seen Warfare Yet, which he also did,
but that's on my list. These guys cranked out something
worthwhile here. Lots of tens filled with imagery that's beautiful
and disturbing at the same time, and also not just
more of the same old, same old after decades of
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zombie trash, and still kind of has a punk rock
feel to the action. It's jarring, the cuttings, frenetic. It'll
wake you right up if say you see it after work,
very late at night in a nearly empty theater during
the week. Here's the setup. All this time, after the
rage virus and the berserk zombies, there's a community of
survivors who live on an island that's only connected to
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the zombie infested mainland by a causeway. And if you
don't know what a causeway is, it's a little road
or a trail that you can use when the tide's
low and it's underwater when the tides up. Causeways are scary.
They're a great gimmick. Now, let's pause for a new feature,
new cause Mark's definitive list of the all time greatest
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causeway horror films, The Woman in Black, the twenty twelve version,
and the nineteen eighty nine version. If you're a fan
of causeways, these are movies for you. If you've got
a causeway, when it's high tide, you either can't get
to someplace or you can't escape someplace.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Got that. Why hasn't Blumhouse made a movie called Causeway? Yet?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Honestly, they've done more with less. And that was Mark's
definitive list of the all time greatest causeway horror movies.
Cause Okay, No, back to what we were talking about.
Aaron Taylor Johnson, who was not banished to the island
because of Craven the Hunter, is the dad of a
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little boy along with Jody Comer, who was very sick
with something we'll find out later in the movie what
it is. As a kind of rite of initiation, ATJ
takes this boy crossed the causeway to the mainland, which
is under strict quarantine, to hunt some zombies. This is
not a recommended father son activity. Play catch get that
porn sharing app or shaming app that Mike Johnson and
his son share, not zombie outings though, that's even worse
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than that mumblety peg game.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
You like that?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
You remember your grandparents played with knives because they didn't
have toys during the Great Depression. I'm sorry, son, we
couldn't afford a PS five for your birthday, so instead
we're gonna get chased around by berserk carnivorous zombies while
we're armed only with bows and arrows. Sound like fun.
That's not all the movie, And yes, ATJ playing a
crappy father does play a role in the story. Hey son, Next,
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I thought we'd go swimming in the ocean at an
La Beach. Don't worry about all this sewage. You want
to build up a strong immune system. You see Rape
finds in the trailer and he plays a very strange
survivor on the mainland and he's only really in a
portion of the movie. It's not a cameo, but sort
of like in twenty eight Weeks, the kids really the focus,
and believe it or not, that doesn't ruin the movie.
We also get new alpha zombies in this which are bigger, smarter,
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harder to kill, and fairly well endowed. Lots of the
zombies are naked, so yes, you will be treated to
some zombie dong in the film. And where the movie
almost tips into nat like that, the movie almost that's
got to be a first tips into comedy with what
this alpha male can do to people that it catches. Now,
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without spoiling anything, all I'm going to tell you it's
like the most hilariously brutal move from one of the
Mortal Kombat video games.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Now you got to see it in the theater.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
This is a really British movie, and you can find
some echoes of Brexit and how the UK's quarantined while
Europe seems to have dealt with the zombie problem, and
starting with Knight of the Living Dead in nineteen sixty eight,
most of the good zombie movies were vehicles for social commentary,
some better than others.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Now here's SOMEBS.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
A couple weeks ago, I got a Google alert referencing
a review I did of twenty eight weeks Later back
in two thousand and seven, because now it's a hit
again on streaming. It's an article from slash Film which
reads like it was written by an ai a lot
of clickbait blather to say twenty eight weeks Later is
doing well on Hulu, and it quotes critics from the
New York Times and Chicago Tribune wetting themselves over how
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great they thought twenty eight weeks Later was. But then
quote Mark Ronner of the Seattle Times wasn't in agreement. However,
the writer evidently found the movie's social commentary to be
as subtle as well at George Ramiro movie.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I was right at this point, nobody regards twenty eight
Weeks Later as anywhere close to the original. The original
filmmakers had nothing to do with that middle movie. I
didn't go along with the pack at the time, and
what this slash film writer or ai meant to say
was what clear insight Mark had then when the bigger
fish were acting like toddlers with a shiny object that said,
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twenty eight years later is a much better movie. Over
and above all the zombie dong you get to see
so Far, Sinners and Bring Her Back are the best
horror films this year. This one belongs on that list,
along with that Jim Jordan Ohio State wrestling documentary. It
could be the first of a new trilogy if it
does well. Sign me the hell up for this. Some trivia.
This movie was shot on an iPhone or iPhones plural.
(23:32):
Granted there are iPhones of all sorts of extra gear
that you and I probably couldn't afford, but still phones,
and it looks really good. I hate the way most
digital movies look. I finally caught David Cronenberg's The Shrouds,
and the digital photography to me made it feel not
like a real Cronenberg movie at all, just looked terrible
and look at all this time later, most people can
pronounce Killian Murphy's name. Twenty eight years later, Carlisle went
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on to be a bond villain. Idris Elba became a
huge star. He was in the middle One. Imagen poots
from the middle one still has the best name in
show business. That kind of sounds like farting, but is
completely unrelated. Jeremy Renner went on to nearly get disemboweled,
not by zombies but by his own snowplow.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Life comes at you fast like a snowplow.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Mo h, Tim Conway Junior is going to have half
an issue with you, just half an issue, how so
because you left out the d You know, I thought
about that while I was riding this the mombigo's point
of that act, and I thought, just let it go, bark.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't need to pick a fight with anybody I
work with. Yeah, no ding dongs, just just half of it.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
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Fifty years ago today, Jaws in theaters for the first
time fifty years ago today, and if you're watching NBC,
they're showing Jaws. And I was remarking with Toala Sharp,
how clear it is whatever digital remastering and restoration they
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did to the original copy of Jaws. It's just fantastic.
It looks like it was filmed in Imax HD. It's
almost like a whole new movie. Want to go back
and watch it again for myself. But since this show
is all about movies and entertainment, we had to pay
tributing to the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. And I say
that against the backdrop, we are going to play name
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that movie called classic. No, Jaws will not be one
of the movies, but you can give us a call it.
Eight hundred five to zero one KFI eight hundred five
two zero one five three four if you want to
play name that movie called classic with us tonight. We're
playing for fun, not for prizes, but we're definitely gonna
have fun. Eight hundred five to zero one KFI eight
hundred five two zero one five three four.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And let me get back to Jaws for just a moment.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
What made Jaws so spectacular was the fact that Steven Spielberg,
the director, didn't show us much of the shark. It
was more the fear of it being around, the possibility
that it could pop up and if you know anything
about the history of that making the movie. Part of
that had to do with the shark itself. The mechanical
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shark was not dependable and frequently would break down, and
so Steven Spielberg, as the story goes, took it in
a different direction and intentionally showed it less to make
it seem more menacing and ever present. It seemed like
wherever the heroes were, the protagonists were Roy Scheider, Robert Shaw,
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and Richard Dreyfuss. The shark was right there, and unfortunately
only Richard Dreyfus is left from the original cast. But
in the movie, if you've seen Jaws, there is the best,
and I say this without exaggeration or hyperbole, arguably the
best monologue delivered in a movie. And from what I'm told,
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it was put together by Robert Shaw, and the cast
didn't even know that he was going to do it,
and he just started doing it and it stuck. Mark,
Am I almost right with that, Yes you are. What
I'm going to do now is going to I'm going
to play that monologue for you. And I believe it
was a one shot. I believe it was a one shot.
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It's done in one take. I don't need to set
it up. This is Robert Shaw, arguably the best monologue
in cinema history.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Devanese submarine slammed two torpedoes and do her side jeeves.
It's coming back from the island of ten and the
lady and just delivered the bum hiroshima bum. Eleven men
went into the order went down in twelve minutes. Didn't
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see the first shark for about half an hour. Tiger
thirteen foot of You know, you know that when you're
in the water, chief you tell by looking from the
door stow to the tail. But we didn't know which
Our bomb. Mission had been so secret, no distressed signal
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had been sent m but they didn't even list as
overdo for we very first like chief sharks come cruising'em.
So we formed ourselves into tight groups.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
It's kind of like old squares in the battle, like
you see in the calendar, like the bottle of Waterloo
and the idea was shot. Comes the nearest man the
money start bounding and hollering and screaming. Sometimes a shark
go away. Sometimes he wouldn't go. He Sometimes that shoky
looks right into you, right into your eyes.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You know.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
The thing about a shock. He's got lifeless eyes, black.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Eyes, I got the dolls eyes.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
When he comes at you, doesn't seem to be living
until he bites you. You those black eyes rolled over white.
And then oh, then you hear that terrible high pitched screaming.
The ocean turns red and despite of all the pound
and then holler, and they all come in. They repeated pieces,
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you know by the internet.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
First Doorn lost a hundred men. I don't know how
many shocks, maybe a thousand. I don't know how many men,
the average six an hour.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
On Thursday morning, she if I bumped into a friend
of mine, Herbie Robins Kleeber baseball player Boozing's mane, and
I thought he was asleep.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
He just ob to wake him up.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Bobbed up and down in the water. It's like a
kind of top up ended well, he'd been bitten in
half all the waist little on the fifth day, mister Luck,
he'd been to her. So she swunging lower, and he
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saw us, to the young part of Luck, younger, mister Hooper. Anyway,
he saw us, and he come in lower, and three
hours later a big fat pb y comes down and
start to pick us up. You know that was the
time I was most frightened waiting for my turn. I'll
never put on a life check it again. He's old
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eleven hundred and went into were three hundred and sixteen
nine can out of the Sharks took the rest during
the twenty ninth, nineteen forty five. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
The inimitable Robert Shaw. I say it is the greatest
monologue in cinema history.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Jaws.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Happy Birthday, fiftieth anniversary of Shaws. Today it's later with
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Forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're live on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,
and the iHeartRadio app. Let's talk about Billboard Magazine. Billboard,
I've had friends who worked over there for the better
part of thirty years. In fact, one person, Gail Mitchell,
friend of mine, was a part of a group of
Billboard writers and editorialists who put together this list of
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the seventy five best R and B artists of all time.
If there's anything that I know, it's R and B
in terms of music genre. I personally I could have
sat on this editorial board and done a better job
on this list, and I have no problem saying it.
In fact, Gail Mitchell, I'm going to give you a
call probably at some point and see if I can
get you on the show. Then have you explained yourself
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top seventy five R and B artists of all time
according to the staff picks at Billboard Magazine Scene and
I'm gonna run through these real quickly. Number seventy five
Ruth Brown, that's fine, she predates Free Charles Andretha Franklin.
Number seventy four Summer Walker. That's fine. You know when
we get to the top fifty, well, we'll really no
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Eda James at seventy three at last, Yeah, Sunday kind
of love.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
All right, we'll see how you said us a bench. Yah.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You know, hones to say, is this person really better
than Eda James because it says best r and B artists,
It didn't say best singer. So I'm looking at the
totality of your career. Number seventy two Jackie Wilson absolutely
should be on the list. Absolutely, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Number seventy one Kisha Cole, Okay, did this where we start?
Works Star? Well, rocky Star.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I worked with Keisha Cole when I was at Interscope Records. Okay,
not a bad artist, just not top seventy anything of
all time anyway, Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very good singer, yeah, but not better than even Edit James.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
What are we doing right now? Number seventy Her I'll
hear this out, I'll hear it.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yes, her is a phenomenal vocalist, phenomenal vocals and even
a musician. I mean, well, she's getting guitar and everything,
so I'll listen to it. Yes, on the top seventy five, Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, Number six sixty nine Bobby Woo Mack.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Sure, he's on the list. He's on the list.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And if you don't know some of these names, you
may not be in the weeds as much as someone
like me when it comes to R and B music.
But it also sometimes says like, wait a minute, I've
heard of Edda James. How is this person above Edda James? Like,
for example, and you would not be wrong in many instances.
Phillis Hyman. Yeah, her her career was cut short because
she unfortunately took her own life, but as a vocalist
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jazz and R and B stellar, Yeah, one of the
premiere yes oh on. Janine Coveny also was on this.
So we got two people we know, Okay, all right.
Number sixty seven Tank Foh, there's no way Tank is
the top seventy five of anything. And you probably say,
who's Tank exactly? That's my point. Number sixty six Keith Sweat,
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he had about two albums. He's not top seventy five.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Cank you.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Keith Sweat is a great artist, phenomenal songwriter we're talking about,
and I guess we needed some type of breakdown for
what it is that they're looking for you talking about
people are who are touring people that you like. But
if you're talking about voice is best singers is what
I think you're looking for when you look for the
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top R and B anything, but Sweat does not have.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He's not even a good singer. He did not write
his music. I like his music, but as far as
wasn't a great performer nothing. They made fun of his dancing.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, he's like a Backstreet boy by himself, right, rights,
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Number sixty five Tina Marie should not be as low
on this list as shit. Yeah, she should actually be higher.
Ye sixty four, let us see. I think of her
more as a jazz artist than an R and B artist.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, that's the only thing. Great vocalist, phenomenal vocalist.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
If she should be on a list if we're talking
about singers, yes, because her voice is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes. Number sixty three Music Soul Child.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm personally fond of music Soul Child, and he writes
his music, I'll allow it. I'll allow it for now
for now. Number sixty two Anthony Hamilton. Yes, yes he's
on the list.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
YEP. Number sixty one Ashanti.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We have to stop the whole list right now, stop
this list and put this list.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Where it belong, and that's in the garbage.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ashanti and I say, this is someone who's been on
this show respectfully. Oh really, Yeah, she came out talking
about a Christmas movie. She's a fine for former. She's
a studio singer.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
She is not.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
She is not holding her own vocally against like a philisheymis.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
She's not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, she's got maybe three or four hits. Number sixty Neo,
hell no, hell no, way, hell no. Number fifty nine, Fantasia.
I think she's a great singer. She's not top seventy
five to anything. I don't think she's had more than
two hits. I'm being serious. That's yeah, that's that's even
being Yeah. Good foundation. Fifty eight people Bryson, Yes, yes,
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fifty seven. Tevin Campbell, Yes, yeah, yes, can we talk.
That's an all time classic song.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But his voice, no on that.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
His voice as a singer, R and B singer, his
voice is legendary, his voice is phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Discovered by Quincy Jones. Yes, number fifty six. I know
who this is. Most people don't Joe great songwriter, decent singer,
but he doesn't have a catalog to be in the
top seventy arm I can't.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Hear that, but argument, but he's been out for like
thirty years showing it, and his voice is never faught.
Joe has a phenomenal voice. He just he's just so
unsung because he goes by Joe, right, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Could hear it, but he should be a little bit lower.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Oh no, no, wait lower, closer to closer than the seventy Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Number fifty five, Natalie Cole, I'll allow it, okay, Number
fifty four, Jasmine Sullivan. Hale's no, Hale's no else, no
like that either. I mean she had one hit, a
bust the windows at your car sick. Number fifty three
Jill Scott, Yes, and could be higher by the end
of her career.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Should be higher. Daniel says that too. Number fifty two.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Stephanie Mills, Yes, yes, yes, she might even be top fifty,
but still she should be.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, number fifty one.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Rick James, Yes, yeah, yes, higher, yeah, right, number fifty
John Legend, he's on the list.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
He's on the list. I'll hear it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, we'll see who else is on here, right fifty right,
Bobby Brown forty nine. I never thought he was the
king of R and B. But as far as influence
and impact.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Influencing impact, if you throw, its not the great He's not. No,
he's not the most stellar sing He wasn't the most
stellar singer in the group. You know, I know, I
love Bobby Love Bobby Brown, king of Army influence.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's not a disc no, And we're talking about people
that we dealt with a lot of these a lot
of these newer artists.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I am partially responsible for the records being heard and
played in the first place. Number forty eight Lauren Hill.
I don't like her as a person and how she
does her concerts and not showing up.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But I've heard that. Oh yeah, number forty seven the weekend.
I'll say yes, if only because once you do a
Super Bowl halftime show by yourself, you're.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
In the conversation club. But he has a great voice. Yeah,
he's a great singer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Number forty six Rianna Eh.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Singer er, Well, this is an artist.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So if you want to throw total her career, yeah, okay,
forty five DiAngelo, yes, yes, number forty four Sizza, No,
get back to me in ten years. I mean she's
not too new, yeah, not more impactful as an R
and B artist.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
And Edna James, for example, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Or Stephanie Mills, she's right, boff, Stephanie Mills. And I
think Sizza would say, don't put me above Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Don't do that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
We got to go to a commercial break and then
we'll come back with the Top forty three and we're
going to really piss you off. In the chat, the
Motown chat, they're throwing out names of who they think
should be in the top ten.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Who is it who said that Chris Brown better be
in the top ten?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You better stop, you better stop some stock who sat
Aaron Eaton says Donny Hathaway.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I'm with you, Aaron Eaton On, Donnie Hathaway.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Eric Losardo says Rick James should be above Legend, John
Legend and Bobby Brown.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, yeah, agreed.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Eaton is looking for Curtis Mayfield, Well, yep, you're not wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
He's got to be way up top. Lisa's looking. Lisa's
looking for Marvin Gay and Barry White.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We haven't gotten to the top forty or so, so
I expect to see them there.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty AM.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Six forty is later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere
the iHeartRadio app. We're going through the top seventy five
R and B artists of all time according to Billboard,
but was short on time, so we're going to jump
up to number twenty five and get to the good
part coming in a number twenty five according to Billboard
Magazine of the best R and B artists of all time,
Patti LaBelle. I think she should be higher, but I'll
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hold out and see who is ranked above her. Number
twenty four. Bill Withers. I would say yes if you
know the depth of his music catalog as a writer.
He stopped singing relatively early in his career walked away,
but his music catalog is it's up there. Number twenty
three Teddy Pendergrass. His music career was cut short because
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of a car accident. But I'll allow it, and I
admit I'm partial with Teddy Pendographs. Yeah, yeah, number twenty two.
This guy should have been top ten. Luther Vandross, Yeah,
twenty top five. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Once you see who's in the top five, you'll see like, okay,
well maybe not top five, but yeah, Luther someone I
did work with, so yes, I'm partial.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I've heard him seeing live doing jingles. This man's voice
is flawless.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's with the exception of maybe Donnie Hathaway, the most
perfect voice I've ever heard a.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Number twenty one Donnie Hathaway. They put them next to
each other for right, for a reason.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And if you don't know who Donnie Hathaway is, this
Christmas hang all the missile though, that's Donnie Hathaway. Number
twenty Otis Redding. I don't think he should be ranked
a side. I don't think he should be above Yeah no,
I mean was he influential, yeah, but not above Luther.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No. And I don't think he's top twenty. I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You know, he had a few songs, but not top twenty.
As far as career impact, Number nineteen, Smokey Robinson, he
may drop by the end of these lawsuits. I'm sorry
that was messed up. Number eighteen Al Green, Yes, yep, yeah,
he's top twenty. Yeah, yeah, Number seventeen. I'm surprised that
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she's this low. Janet Jackson, it's kind of hard to
be world famous and you have hits over three different
decades and you're not even in the top fifteen. I
think Jenny would have been here. Yeah again I'm partial.
I did work with her Virgin Records. No, see, this
is what I mean. How can you have Mary J.
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Blige at sixteen and Janet Jackson at seventeen. Don't tell
me that Mary J. Blige's career was half as impactful
as Janet Jackson.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And for folks who know me, they'll know what I
mean by this. Mary J.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Blige is black famous. You know, if you're R and
B fan, you know who Mary J. Blige Janet Jackson
is world famous. You've worked with both. Actually, that's true.
You forget after a why, Yeah, it's true. I forget
number fifteen. Isaac Hayes, Yes, yeah, yeah, Academy award, Yeah,
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number fourteen. People are asking about this person. Curtis Mayfield, Yeah, sure, agreed. Yeah,
we can quit a lot of ranking, but it's in
the in the bright spot area. Number thirteen. Sam Cook absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the change is gonna come number twelve. Ussher Hey, hey,
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well man, hey, not that high, not that high, not
that high, But you could say his career as far
as being world famous.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
He it's almost like the Janet Jackson in my generation. Yeah, yeah,
not here. Man.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
He could be in the top twenty, but he should
not be above.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Luther, uh Luther or Curtis Mayfield or Curtis may any
of the people that you know.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
He should be at the tail end of the top twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
For some people, they're talking about just number of hits,
and hits are relative. Okay, Usher doesn't have type of
discography where they'll be playing his music one hundred years
from now. Curtis Mayfield, Yes, coming in number eleven. This
might be a little low for me. Of course. I'm
partial Ray Charles.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I love Ray Charles.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, I think he's top ten no matter what. Yeah,
we'll see who's in the top ten real quick. Number
ten Marvin Gay. Now see I would pick Ray Charles
over Marvin Gay.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, you know it's got to be relative. Number nine,
Oh boy, oh my god, our freaking Kelly.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Hey man, come on, hey, come look hey.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, you know we're not even discussed now, hell no, No.
Number eight.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Mariah Carey, no, yes, Mariah Carey, yes, yeah, it was Kelly.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah. Number seven Prince yes, yeah, yeah, no, but.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
As artists, oh yeah that that yeah, it was a
little too yeah, i'll tell you, Prince.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, well that's not as high. But he's in top
twenty for you. Top twenty, okay, okay, okay. Number six
James Brown, yes, yeah, yeah yeah. Number five Whitney Houston, Okay,
definitely all right, yeah, yeah, I can get that one.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah. I can't argue that Number four Beyonce not above Whitney.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But you know, if you put in the totality of
her career, she's got four hundred and fifty Grammys and
her tours, you know, I would just say influence alone,
yeah yeah, influence.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, but with thee the inview influenced every one.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But Whitney unfortunately did not become the star in the
age of the Internet.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Number three Michael Jackson Okay, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would have had him over Number two Aretha Franklin
and I love me some Maretha frank one, but I
would put Michael above. She broke down some barriers. I
mean it was that's the thing. Aretha. Half of her
career was gospel music. Yes, and we're talking R and
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B yeah, since this is John Respec Okay, got to
hurry from Mark Runner and coming in number one. They
got this right. The greatest r and B artists of
all time, Stevie Wonder, Steve Land Morris cannot. I can't
argue that the Billboard. I give you this one, they
got that one.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
They got right.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI A M six.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Forty talks about pontificates about pop culture. Ron and Report
with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I am sixty's to Runner Report with Mark Ronner, Take
it away.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Tonight, twenty eight years later. First off, the original movie
twenty eight days Later came out in two thousand and two.
And I know math is hard, but this is twenty
twenty five, so that's twenty three years later. Screw you
for that, filmmakers. Oh the movie is set twenty eight
years later.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Whatever. Here's some of the trailer episode many dead, infected,
non infected alike. That's why our whole is so precious.
You know, I feel he's a bit young, he's ready
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to change. Thanks you never once you walk onto that mainland,
there's no rescue.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Warming up and down again.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Look at what's in front of you.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
That's cool, and you got a lot of zombies chasing
after people. The tons and tons of people watch the trailer.
It's really good, it's really effective, and it uses I
believe in old Rudyard Kipling poem. The movie set twenty
eight are Let's get caught up, Let's get everything straight.
Twenty eight days Later was the first one, and it
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wasn't technically a zombie movie because it was about a
rage virus that spread quickly among humans and made them
act just like zombies. You don't have to listen to
everything filmmakers tell you about their stuff. It's a zombie
movie if you remember that movie with Killian Murphy, who
was one of the first ones that depicted zombies running
like bats out of hell, like Zack Snyder's Down of
the Dead remake two years later, and now the Fungus
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zombies and the Last of Us on HBO.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Sorry Max.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
These aren't the old, drunk looking George Romero zombies that
shuffle around and move almost as slow as a slee
stack from land to the loss. These guys run really fast.
They run like they're being chased by ice agents and
a strawberry field. Twenty eight weeks later, came out in
two thousand and seven and scarred the Scottish actor Robert Carlyle,
although it was focused more on his kids in that movie,
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watchable not as good as the first one. This new one,
twenty eight years later is from the same team director
Danny Boyle and Alex Garland, the writer of the first one,
which is enough of a pedigree to get my ass
into a theater and not wait for it to show
up on TV. Danny Boyle directed Trainspotting, slum Dog, Millionaire, Sunshine,
lots of others. The real draw for me is Garland,
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who gave a civil war last year as a director
and writer Ex Machina, Annihilation, Men, and a great mini
series called Devs Haven't Seen Warfare Yet, which he also did,
but that's on my list. These guys cranked out something
worthwhile here. Lots of tens filled with imagery that's beautiful
and disturbing at the same time, and also not just
more of the same old, same old after decades of
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zombie trash, and still kind of has a punk rock
feel to the action. It's jarring, the cuttings, frenetic. It'll
wake you right up if say you see it after work,
very late at night in a nearly empty theater during
the week. Here's the setup. All this time, after the
rage virus and the berserk zombies, there's a community of
survivors who live on an island that's only connected to
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the zombie infested mainland by a causeway. And if you
don't know what a causeway is, it's a little road
or a trail that you can use when the tide's
low and it's underwater when the tides up. Causeways are scary.
They're a great gimmick. Now, let's pause for a new feature,
new cause Mark's definitive list of the all time greatest
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causeway horror films, The Woman in Black, the twenty twelve version,
and the nineteen eighty nine version. If you're a fan
of causeways, these are movies for you. If you've got
a causeway, when it's high tide, you either can't get
to someplace or you can't escape someplace.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Got that. Why hasn't Blumhouse made a movie called Causeway? Yet?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Honestly, they've done more with less. And that was Mark's
definitive list of the all time greatest causeway horror movies.
Cause Okay, No, back to what we were talking about.
Aaron Taylor Johnson, who was not banished to the island
because of Craven the Hunter, is the dad of a
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little boy along with Jody Comer, who was very sick
with something we'll find out later in the movie what
it is. As a kind of rite of initiation, ATJ
takes this boy crossed the causeway to the mainland, which
is under strict quarantine, to hunt some zombies. This is
not a recommended father son activity. Play catch get that
porn sharing app or shaming app that Mike Johnson and
his son share, not zombie outings though, that's even worse
(20:36):
than that mumblety peg game.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
You like that?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
You remember your grandparents played with knives because they didn't
have toys during the Great Depression. I'm sorry, son, we
couldn't afford a PS five for your birthday, so instead
we're gonna get chased around by berserk carnivorous zombies while
we're armed only with bows and arrows. Sound like fun.
That's not all the movie, And yes, ATJ playing a
crappy father does play a role in the story. Hey son, Next,
(21:02):
I thought we'd go swimming in the ocean at an
La Beach. Don't worry about all this sewage. You want
to build up a strong immune system. You see Rape
finds in the trailer and he plays a very strange
survivor on the mainland and he's only really in a
portion of the movie. It's not a cameo, but sort
of like in twenty eight Weeks, the kids really the focus,
and believe it or not, that doesn't ruin the movie.
We also get new alpha zombies in this which are bigger, smarter,
(21:25):
harder to kill, and fairly well endowed. Lots of the
zombies are naked, so yes, you will be treated to
some zombie dong in the film. And where the movie
almost tips into nat like that, the movie almost that's
got to be a first tips into comedy with what
this alpha male can do to people that it catches. Now,
(21:46):
without spoiling anything, all I'm going to tell you it's
like the most hilariously brutal move from one of the
Mortal Kombat video games.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Now you got to see it in the theater.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
This is a really British movie, and you can find
some echoes of Brexit and how the UK's quarantined while
Europe seems to have dealt with the zombie problem, and
starting with Knight of the Living Dead in nineteen sixty eight,
most of the good zombie movies were vehicles for social commentary,
some better than others.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Now here's SOMEBS.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
A couple weeks ago, I got a Google alert referencing
a review I did of twenty eight weeks Later back
in two thousand and seven, because now it's a hit
again on streaming. It's an article from slash Film which
reads like it was written by an ai a lot
of clickbait blather to say twenty eight weeks Later is
doing well on Hulu, and it quotes critics from the
New York Times and Chicago Tribune wetting themselves over how
(22:34):
great they thought twenty eight weeks Later was. But then
quote Mark Ronner of the Seattle Times wasn't in agreement. However,
the writer evidently found the movie's social commentary to be
as subtle as well at George Ramiro movie.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I was right at this point, nobody regards twenty eight
Weeks Later as anywhere close to the original. The original
filmmakers had nothing to do with that middle movie. I
didn't go along with the pack at the time, and
what this slash film writer or ai meant to say
was what clear insight Mark had then when the bigger
fish were acting like toddlers with a shiny object that said,
(23:09):
twenty eight years later is a much better movie. Over
and above all the zombie dong you get to see
so Far, Sinners and Bring Her Back are the best
horror films this year. This one belongs on that list,
along with that Jim Jordan Ohio State wrestling documentary. It
could be the first of a new trilogy if it
does well. Sign me the hell up for this. Some trivia.
This movie was shot on an iPhone or iPhones plural.
(23:32):
Granted there are iPhones of all sorts of extra gear
that you and I probably couldn't afford, but still phones,
and it looks really good. I hate the way most
digital movies look. I finally caught David Cronenberg's The Shrouds,
and the digital photography to me made it feel not
like a real Cronenberg movie at all, just looked terrible
and look at all this time later, most people can
pronounce Killian Murphy's name. Twenty eight years later, Carlisle went
(23:55):
on to be a bond villain. Idris Elba became a
huge star. He was in the middle One. Imagen poots
from the middle one still has the best name in
show business. That kind of sounds like farting, but is
completely unrelated. Jeremy Renner went on to nearly get disemboweled,
not by zombies but by his own snowplow.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Life comes at you fast like a snowplow.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Mo h, Tim Conway Junior is going to have half
an issue with you, just half an issue, how so
because you left out the d You know, I thought
about that while I was riding this the mombigo's point
of that act, and I thought, just let it go, bark.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't need to pick a fight with anybody I
work with. Yeah, no ding dongs, just just half of it.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
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Speaker 2 (24:55):
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Fifty years ago today, Jaws in theaters for the first
time fifty years ago today, and if you're watching NBC,
they're showing Jaws. And I was remarking with Toala Sharp,
how clear it is whatever digital remastering and restoration they
(25:19):
did to the original copy of Jaws. It's just fantastic.
It looks like it was filmed in Imax HD. It's
almost like a whole new movie. Want to go back
and watch it again for myself. But since this show
is all about movies and entertainment, we had to pay
tributing to the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. And I say
that against the backdrop, we are going to play name
(25:41):
that movie called classic. No, Jaws will not be one
of the movies, but you can give us a call it.
Eight hundred five to zero one KFI eight hundred five
two zero one five three four if you want to
play name that movie called classic with us tonight. We're
playing for fun, not for prizes, but we're definitely gonna
have fun. Eight hundred five to zero one KFI eight
hundred five two zero one five three four.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And let me get back to Jaws for just a moment.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
What made Jaws so spectacular was the fact that Steven Spielberg,
the director, didn't show us much of the shark. It
was more the fear of it being around, the possibility
that it could pop up and if you know anything
about the history of that making the movie. Part of
that had to do with the shark itself. The mechanical
(26:26):
shark was not dependable and frequently would break down, and
so Steven Spielberg, as the story goes, took it in
a different direction and intentionally showed it less to make
it seem more menacing and ever present. It seemed like
wherever the heroes were, the protagonists were Roy Scheider, Robert Shaw,
(26:47):
and Richard Dreyfuss. The shark was right there, and unfortunately
only Richard Dreyfus is left from the original cast. But
in the movie, if you've seen Jaws, there is the best,
and I say this without exaggeration or hyperbole, arguably the
best monologue delivered in a movie. And from what I'm told,
(27:11):
it was put together by Robert Shaw, and the cast
didn't even know that he was going to do it,
and he just started doing it and it stuck. Mark,
Am I almost right with that, Yes you are. What
I'm going to do now is going to I'm going
to play that monologue for you. And I believe it
was a one shot. I believe it was a one shot.
(27:32):
It's done in one take. I don't need to set
it up. This is Robert Shaw, arguably the best monologue
in cinema history.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Devanese submarine slammed two torpedoes and do her side jeeves.
It's coming back from the island of ten and the
lady and just delivered the bum hiroshima bum. Eleven men
went into the order went down in twelve minutes. Didn't
(28:04):
see the first shark for about half an hour. Tiger
thirteen foot of You know, you know that when you're
in the water, chief you tell by looking from the
door stow to the tail. But we didn't know which
Our bomb. Mission had been so secret, no distressed signal
(28:24):
had been sent m but they didn't even list as
overdo for we very first like chief sharks come cruising'em.
So we formed ourselves into tight groups.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
It's kind of like old squares in the battle, like
you see in the calendar, like the bottle of Waterloo
and the idea was shot. Comes the nearest man the
money start bounding and hollering and screaming. Sometimes a shark
go away. Sometimes he wouldn't go. He Sometimes that shoky
looks right into you, right into your eyes.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You know.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
The thing about a shock. He's got lifeless eyes, black.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Eyes, I got the dolls eyes.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
When he comes at you, doesn't seem to be living
until he bites you. You those black eyes rolled over white.
And then oh, then you hear that terrible high pitched screaming.
The ocean turns red and despite of all the pound
and then holler, and they all come in. They repeated pieces,
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you know by the internet.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
First Doorn lost a hundred men. I don't know how
many shocks, maybe a thousand. I don't know how many men,
the average six an hour.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
On Thursday morning, she if I bumped into a friend
of mine, Herbie Robins Kleeber baseball player Boozing's mane, and
I thought he was asleep.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
He just ob to wake him up.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Bobbed up and down in the water. It's like a
kind of top up ended well, he'd been bitten in
half all the waist little on the fifth day, mister Luck,
he'd been to her. So she swunging lower, and he
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saw us, to the young part of Luck, younger, mister Hooper. Anyway,
he saw us, and he come in lower, and three
hours later a big fat pb y comes down and
start to pick us up. You know that was the
time I was most frightened waiting for my turn. I'll
never put on a life check it again. He's old
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eleven hundred and went into were three hundred and sixteen
nine can out of the Sharks took the rest during
the twenty ninth, nineteen forty five. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
The inimitable Robert Shaw. I say it is the greatest
monologue in cinema history.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Jaws.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Happy Birthday, fiftieth anniversary of Shaws. Today it's later with
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