May 22, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the different ways in-which “road rage” is defined depending on the driver…PLUS – Thoughts on the Mayor Bass’ “executive order to keep jobs in Hollywood” AND local Police Departments use of drones within neighborhoods to track and apprehend suspects - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's later with mo Kelly can if I am six forty,
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live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I don't know, but I guess the word is out.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't know who officially said it, but it seems
like the Memorial Day weekend has already begun. Judging about
the traffic on the way in today, the Memorial Day
weekend has already begun.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
People are not going to work.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
They're clearly on the road driving out to Las Vegas
or Bakersfield, or driving up north to the Bay Area.
They're driving somewhere, and it seems like everyone is driving
somewhere at the same time. You might have heard Mark
Runner during the news break before the show talk about
it might be a record weekend coming up for some
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three point six million residents. In other words, people already
here in California, not talking about the people maybe coming
from out of state in to southern California. But three
point six million residents are anticipated to travel fifty miles
or more this weekend, which translates to a nearly four
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percent increase from last year. And I'm thinking, where are
you driving to Is this a big weekend for Las Vegas?
Maybe it is, but I don't think that I would
want to go to Vegas for Memorial Day weekend. It's
just two damn hot between now and like maybe August.
I'm thinking, where's everyone driving? I don't know, but they
were on the road two day. I saw at least
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three or four runners, no exaggeration already, yeah, and one
was actually directed at me. I had to go downtown. Well,
you must have brought it on yourself. I must have,
but I was trying not to hit someone who was
in the crosswalk riding one of those motorized scooters, and
he was indecisive.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Should I go? Should I should I not go?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, you have the light, dude, and I cannot go
through the intersection until you make a decision, because he
was off the curb and in the crosswalk.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And was it he who administered the middle finger? Knows
the person we will not be calling the runner. It's
the person who was the person behind me in a tesla.
Not that that matters, but I felt my point that
tesla and he.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I guess he was, and I have an SUV, so
I will chalk it up to he not being able
to see, which is directly in front of my car.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So you got a runner from behind. No, I'm just curious,
trying to make a joke. No, no, No, here's how
I went. He's behind me. There is this scooter guy
who's in the crosswalk. I'm downtown on surface streets. At
this point, I'm getting ready to make a left, I
think on Caesar Chavez. I want to make a left,
and there's like a line of cars behind me. I
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was the first car the light.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh okay, I have to stop two thirds of the
way through the intersection as I'm making this left, because
this idiot is barreling down the hill and into the intersection. Me,
being the defensive driver, said, I know he's just gonna
go straight into the intersection. Yes, he does have the light,
but he's not walking across the street.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
He is.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Barreling through the intersection in the crosswalk. So I am
trying to anticipate what he's gonna do. And he did
as exactly as I thought he was gonna do. He
came screaming into the intersection, and then he almost wanted
to put on the brakes, like, oh, I don't know
if I want to if I was gonna make the
light in time. So he stops about maybe ten feet
in the intersection, pretty much directly in front of my
car to check his phone too. No, he wasn't check
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this phone. It just seemed very confused. It was a
young guy, I want to say, maybe in his early twenties.
So I put on my brakes because I can see
what was getting ready to happen. This tesla behind me
is honking a horn. Clearly could not see. I'm just
gonna give him the benefit of doubt and saying that
he could not see what was directly in front.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Of my car. Well, wait, was it some in a
cyber truck or a regular No, it's a regular testa.
It was one of those. I think it was a
two doors today. Yeah, I don't no, no, no, it was.
It was a car.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It was a car, so he had a lower profile,
That's what I mean. I don't think he could have
seen in front of him. Oh Okay, he gets mad.
He swings out to the left of me, and I'm
and I'm scared that he's gonna hit the guy on
the scooter because he doesn't see him. But he pulls
up almost right right alongside me. And then and the
scooter guy is still in front of me, and he
gives me the runner and I just point in front.
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And I pointed in front, like don't you see this
mother father right in front of me? You want me
to go through the intersection and just run him over? Now,
I guess the people who are like five or six
cars behind me, depending on their angle, could see him,
but the car right behind me couldn't because it was.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Far enough back that they, yes, they can see, but
he was too close.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm trying to be nice to him, but he was
being an a hole to me, so he decided to
And you know the Teslas, they have this like launch mode.
So after he saw the skateboard guy, the scooter guy
go in front of me, he wants to, you know,
like then that little toy car yeah, their rockets, yeah,
and it just shoots off after you give me a
roner like I was going to chase him or you know,
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road rage with him.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He seemed like he was like twenty eight, twenty nine
or something. It's like, look, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Twenty years ago, that was you, that was me, that
was me, And I would have caught up to him
at some point and told him to pull over.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Read that time is behind me, Mark is it is so,
given somebody the finger his grounds to get out of
the car and start a brawl, I'm saying twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, if someone had given me the finger and then
tried to speed off as if excuse me, ronner, yes
no that's no, yes, yes, yes, yes, and and then
sped off as if that that was going to save
the person, Yeah, I would have chased him down.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's just what I was. It's non violent the finger,
you it is, But.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
People sometimes do things from the safety of their car
thinking that they're aren't consequences.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And back in the day, yeah, I was very hot headed.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Why not just give him one right back because he
sped off, Remember, yeah, well you're slow on the draw.
This is on you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's kind of like the last thing that's left behind
keyboard Warriors. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And a lot of times people will say stuff, they'll
make gestures thinking that it doesn't go beyond that. Now
I'm at a time in my life where I know
that someone can start shooting in a heartbeat, and I'm
not trying to catch a bullet because someone else is
having a really really bad day.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I have trained myself to not react to stuff that
other people do. You're practically a shell in Monk. I'm
trying to be an adult in my old age. I'm
trying to be better one.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It helps for my general overall well being that I'm
not raging and yelling at people when I'm just driving
to work. And also it's like, to what end, what
do I get out of it? I just you know,
I don't even try to stare down people anymore. I
was good for a stare down, not even a little
head shoke. Someone's driving crazy or slow. I'm the one
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who pull up alongside you and you lean force. You
can see him in the car shot instead like you're
looking like what the F are you doing? Because you're
leading real forward to make it known that you're staring
at them in the other car. I was that dude.
What about the two handed what the f gesture like
on both hands in the air. I would do that too,
But I don't do that anymore. I don't respond anyway anymore.
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I mean, if anything, it's almost like a personal face.
I'm thinking, like myself, like what the F's this guy doing?
But I'm not I'm not gesturing. I'm not doing any
of this. I'm not waving my hands. If you're on
our YouTube Simulcash, you can see what I'm doing. I'm
not doing any of that. I'm not giving anyone the runner.
I'm not doing not nothing. I am not trying to
instigate or escalate. So you're just letting people walk all
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over you. Yeah, I'm just I'm just getting soft to
my old age huh or low te maybe lot, or
I value my life more than anything I see. Okay,
I don't want to be that person who well, actually,
let me back up. We always talk about the strange
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dreams that we have. One of my strange recurring dreams
is I have been shot by some like sixteen or
seventeen year old And it's not necessarily while driving. It's
just that I know that young people usually have bad judgment. Yes,
I'm generalizing, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, it is true.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yes, they have bad judgment, and they're more prone to
react out of emotion and make life changing decisions because
someone disrespected them, or someone made them mad, someone cut
them off, And we see instances of this in the news,
and I don't want to catch a bullet because because
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of someone else's stupidity, not thinking past the moment, and
they do it at the drop of a hat, at
the drop of a hat, and I could be right
as rain. That person could have legitimate, legitimately cut me off.
I can be justified in my anger. But then since
I flipped him off, then since I gestured to him,
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then since I, you know, call him an mffort, and
he could read my lips, that younger person of less judgment,
and Twalla said it best. He got into a verbal
spat with a driver and it was his daughter who
calmed him down and talked to him, talked him off
the ledge, saying, basically paraphrasing, Daddy, you're mad, But that
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person could be crazy, and I don't underestimate crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So suddenly everybody's the truck driver in duel. Possibly, yeah, possibly.
You know what I would rather be. I would rather
you call me every name. I would rather you think
that I'm a punk. I rather you think that you know,
you got the best of me and walked all over me,
and I just go about my day. I hope that's maturity.
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I hope yeah, Because you never know who's on who's
driving that car. You never know, and I'm thinking, like,
what's what is it I win? What do I get
out of it by honoring somebody?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What do I get? You're doing a public service?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, okay, but at what cost? I know you're playing
both sides here, Mark, Oh, No, I never do that.
You understand where I'm coming from, and I think it
would be I think it would be reckless on my
part and irresponsible for me to recommend otherwise for anyone else.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I see.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean, how can I talk about safety like don't
stop at a gas station tonight, but go ahead and
flip off someone and risk getting shot.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
No, that's not who I am. I have to have
some degree of consistency.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We always talk talk about how can we better protect ourselves?
How can we be safer in a time in which
there is a concern about crime, be it on the metro,
or be it where we live, be it on our jobs,
like mass shootings, whatever. We always have to think about
what we do, where we are, where we go, which
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either increases or decreases our level of safety. That's all
I'm saying. And the things that I can control by
doing or not doing. Yeah, I'm going to do that
or not do that? Get a paintball gun. It's later
with Mo Kelly. Well, I've on YouTube, Instagram and the
iHeartRadio app. Mark, how are you feeling today? You disclosed
some information. Do I sound a little loopy? I think
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I'm fine. I had a dentist appointment right before work,
but I am one hundred percent normal.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Now, thank you? Did they put you out or just
shoot you up? Further deponents say, if not, let's do
the news.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You're listening to later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Kay if I am six forty is later with Mo Kelly.
We're live on YouTube, Instagram and the iHeartRadio app. Last segment,
I was talking about basically trying to get to work
today and how there was this tesla behind me then
rolled up beside me. Wanted a road rage because I
didn't want to hit the person who was a pedestrian,
if you will, riding one of those scooters in the sidewalk,
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and then we got sidebarred into this discussion about road rage.
More generally, Mark Ronner, the instigator that he is, he
was trying to egg me on no pun intended. I
say no pun intended, because Carnacia in the YouTube chat
made it very clear that she, I guess long ago.
I don't think she does it now, but would keep
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eggs in the car to throw at people.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh, I like that. Are you serious? I'm seriously she.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Put it in the chat. She said it, she said it.
It's a true thing. Now we have Carneesia. Just in
case you haven't seen her, she is up on the
YouTube stream. And I don't necessarily think that's a good driving.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Uh let's say, you know, behavior.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, behavior, that's a good way to put I don't
want to want to dwell too much on it. It's
just not something I would advise. You do know that
if you throw an egg, a bullet might come back. Okay,
you may throw it.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
And you still don't have egg.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I understand there are people who will cut you off,
people who will make you mad. But the moment you
start lobbing projectiles from your car, you've taken it somewhere else.
And we're talking about this against the backdrop of Memorial
Day weekend, and we were saying that people were going
to be driving on average some fifty miles some three
point six million residents will driving fifty miles or more
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and you might catch an egg.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Okay, I got it. I gotta I gotta mention. So
we have a runner. And Eric was started and said,
throwing an egg, that's Carnesia. It's gonna be so inside baseball.
People are not gonna know what with this show.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Look, I was going to work and then someone threw
me a runner, and then I threw back a Carnesia.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The next day knew we were fighting.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, that's brilliant. The only problem with it at all
is that eggs are so expensive right now. We need
eggs to come down and costs. I'm quite sure you
can find a use for eggs. You know what's the
cheapest throwing eggs? I can find it a store.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I don't look at the price of eggs because I
don't eat too many eggs really anymore, so I couldn't
tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, Oh, I mean, I just say, don't throw them.
It's not about the price of the eggs. It's just
just don't do it. Don't do it. Oh No, I
think it's a brilliant idea. It's better than tailgating.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
No, no, no, Ali, would you rather be Roger.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh would you rather scrambled egg on your car? Yeah,
take your punishment, get the egg. How about me?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
For the safety of all involved, how about not escalating
or instigating? I say that just out of a you know,
smoky bear tips for safety only you can prevent road rage.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh and by the way, road rage.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We did a poll in the YouTube chat about how
many of you, I say, succumb to road rage. You
guys are lying. You should be one hundred percent of
you admit to some level of road rage. Well what
counts though, I mean, given the finger doesn't count. See,
that's that's my point. That's my point. People don't think
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whatever they're doing is road rage. Some people's gonna be
some physical form of aggression, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Some people think.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Unless you try to run the guy off the road,
that you're not, you know, participating any type of road
rage event. I think personally, if you are expressing anger
to the driver, you are on the other side of
road rage. If you're expressing anger, if you're shaking your
finger at the other driver, if you're egging the driver,
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if you're honoring the driver. In other words, if you're
gesturing to the driver, you are escalating that interaction in
the moment. There are people right now listening in their
cars on AM six forty of the iHeartRadio app and
they're mad at the person next to them right now,
and this.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Is going to save somebody's life.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I think they're mad at you for trying to inflate
a simple, nonviolent action and call it road rage. You
get out of the car, Yeah, that's road rage. You
pull it to Wally, get something out of her trunk,
and go go after the other guy. Definite road rage,
but just applying a fairly polite and instructional middle finger,
that's not road rage.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I can't tell if you're being serious or not, because
according to your definition, I could roll down my window,
stare down the driver next to me like I used
to do, lean in for like, make sure they can
see my eye contact, and then call n give them, rona,
give them, and call them every name in the book,
talk about their mother, the children.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But of course to you, that's not road rate, talk
about their ancestors. Do whatever you want unless you get
physically violent, that's not road rage. Okay, dude, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I can't formulate some sophisticated argument you are acting out
in rage.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Actually, I have a response for you that I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Trying to I'm trying to try to give me a
ride right now. I was thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But like how you're turning up the volume on the
stereo where you start with it upside down and then
turn it to the upright position, that I think you
deserve one of those, But no physical violence, because that
would be rage.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I would think that anything you do which escalates the
situation is you are trending towards road rage. You are
you're participating act that has nothing to do with driving,
and you are trying to instigate some sort of response
from the other driver.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Shaking your head at the other driver. Road rages is
doing the two handed What are you doing? Rod Apps?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Absolutely, you're kind of if you're doing it to the
person to get their attention. Like for example, if someone
cuts in front of you, I think it's a natural
responsibley throw up your arm, sat dude, you just cut
me off, right, But if you try to drive up
alongside them and throw up your arms and gesture to
him or her, that is an escalation.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Adding an egg might be escalations.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'll agree now now to Walla Sharp who knows a
little something about road raging, is going to give his input.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Look, I've listened to all of this wisdom being spat
about about road rage, and I have at one point
in time I have cut people off, preventing them from
driving forward, getting out.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I've kicked windows.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I've punched windows that can't have ye pulled items out
of my trump. It's plural, Yes, I have. I absolutely
have until the day out of the mouth of babes.
My daughter said, told me, Daddy, you are just angry.
Told you what if they are crazy? Told ja, what
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if you get shot? What happens to me sitting in
the backseat of this car? What if you go to jail?
What happens to me sitting in the back seat of
this car? I hand to God, since then, I have
kept all of my rage, and so I haven't even
given anyone a ronner, a dirty look, nothing, because I
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think about that moment. My job is to get home,
get up in morn to keep on living for my children.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that's why that that's what changed me from road rage.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I hope Mark, one day you you want to deal
on her something, some form of joy that makes you
want to live, that you give me that that you
keep that Roner holstered both of them. I'm stopping at
the store on the way home for eggs. Went from
Ronner to Carnacius. I know all those sounds like a
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food dish. Would you like some carnelie on top of
your runner? I think I think that that carne asado.
Ladies got a point here.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's Later with Mo Kelly, can if I Am six
forty Lived Everywhere in the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, you earned that one.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
When we come back, we have to talk about what
Mayor Bass is trying to do to keep jobs in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Will she be successful? We'll find out.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
KFI.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, Later with Mo Kelly Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app
and we're also live on YouTube and Sir William Wallace
thirteen on YouTube in the Motown chat, says, is Mo
going to say Bass is doing too little too late
in regard to this next story about LA Mayor Karen Bass,
who's issued in executive order to keep jobs in high Hollywood. No,
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don't try to predict what I'm going to say unless
it's like Waybo or something where it's always been very
clear where I stood. You're going to be wrong most
times when you're trying to predict how I'm going to
come out on an issue, And I would say, if anything,
what La Mayork Karen Bass is doing is trying to
distract and have you talk about other things than what
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most people would have would have a reason to discuss.
In other words, if you're going to talk about Mayor Bass,
you'll probably talk about the response to the fires. You'll
probably talk about maybe the recall effort against her, You'll
probably talk about the billion dollar shortfall for the city
of Los Angeles. Those aren't the things that Mayor Bass
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or her advisors would want media to talk about. So
when she has this executive order which is going to
supposedly help keep jobs here in Los Angeles. Relating to
the film industry, I would say, I'm not in any
way confused. You're putting this out there to change the discussion.
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What this executive order is is to remove some of
the red tape, so would be filmmakers and movie studios
would be more inclined to film in the city of
Los Angeles, having more access to landmarks, having access to
parks or a very recognizable scenery. Not all that many
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major studio productions need to use LA landmarks. A lot
of it is already in public domain. I'm just being
very serious. So to answer you, Sir William Wallace thirteen, No,
I would highlight that this is a distraction to change
the subject, not whether this is going to be effective
or not. I don't think it's going to have much
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impact on anything. Honestly, LA did.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Not make it easy for us to shoot our movie.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Meet Austin James Wolf sut CD Guidon. He wrote, produced,
and started this film and was committed to shoot here
in Los Angeles, his adopted hometown. But it wasn't easy.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh, you also have to pay a park monitor fee.
You also have to pay a notification fee, and you
also have to pay a film use fee. And I said, well,
what about all the fees I just paid. They're like, oh, yeah,
that was just the application. That was just for the
right to film here. Now, if you actually want to
film here, you have to pay these fees in twenty
four hours or we're going to take away your permit.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And so I will be.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Signing a new executive director that will make it far
easier to film in Los Angeles movies, television shows.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And commercials.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
LA's Mayor Karen Bass announced her plan to increase Hollywood
productions here, but so far, Wolf is not impressed.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Her new proposals.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I'll be honest, they sound like a lot of lip
service to me.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
The mayor's directive with streamline processes to film around the
Greater Los Angeles area and lower fees. She also wants
to increase access to iconic sites in LA. Like the
Wolf has an example of what he encountered when he
wanted to film in an LA library. The city required
he hired cops for an eight hour shoot.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
They would have been paid seventy five dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How many productions need to film in the LA library.
Let's let's be honest.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Two One, the city required he hired cops for an
eight hour shoot.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
They would have been paid seventy five dollars an hour,
which I don't get paid that much at my job,
and I'm very happy that they get paid that amount,
but it just became unfeasible for our ani film.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Instead, he used a library in Seami Valley.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And then there's that, you know, Okay, So you don't
do it in the city of La Do you know
how often they use other cities posing as Los Angeles
or other cities posing as different American cities, like, for example,
the show Suits that Everyone Loved, which was on originally
the USA Network and then it was brought back to
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life on net Flicks that supposedly set New York. They
shot that whole series in Toronto. You know, you don't
need to actually be in a city. So that takes
me back to what I'm saying about Karen Bass. She
can sign this executive order, but doesn't really change anything.
It's not about what Sir William Wallace suggested. I was
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going to say it was doing too little, too late. No,
it doesn't really address the problem at all, and it's
not really a problem that can be solved by executive action.
And honestly, since it doesn't really do anything, it's about
changing the subject. It's about being able to have a
press conference and say this is what I'm doing to
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help stimulate film and television production in the city of
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Will it actually do anything? That's not the point.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But at least you're not talking about me and the fires.
At least you're not talking about me and a recall effort.
At least, you're not talking about me and this billion
dollar fall. Now how the city doesn't have any money,
Because let's talk about this on a more granular level.
Let's say you get some nickels and dimes from new
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productions here in Los Angeles. That's just going to cancel
out the fees that they were already charging. They were
bringing in thousands and thousands of dollars each time someone
wanted a film here. So okay, so you take out
some of the fees and you have a different movie
and television productions. You're just kind of like moving money around.
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You're not making a real discernible difference as far as
money which is going to come in and help the
city of Los Angeles. That's the real discussion I think
people should be having. It's not about too little, too late?
Is it doesn't matter? And it also does it distract
from the more important issues surrounding the mayor right about now?
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And I don't think it does as much of anything.
And I'm sure is as I'm sitting here, that this
is about more distraction than anything substantive. It's later with
mo Kelly KFI A six forty live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app, YouTube and Instagram. And when we come back
to finish out this hour, we'll have to tell you
about this drone and the Alhambra PD and how the
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drone is helping the police department get it done. But
I don't know if I'm comfortable with how they got
it done. That's next.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. And now I want to just have a
personal conversation with you. This is not a legal conversation.
I don't know where the law begins and ends.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Per se.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
This is about your house. This is about your privacy.
This is about what you perceive as your safety and
what you're comfortable with. There was a story about a
drone how it helped Alhamber police recently arrest the suspect
believed to be connected to a South American theft group.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Here's what happened the police drone and there's video of this.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You can see it right now on our YouTube simulcast,
so you get a sense of what the drone was
able to see. The drone spotted the suspects in a
backyard and it's in the middle of a very dense neighborhood,
suburban neighborhood. And after the drone spotted the suspects, you
could see one of them trying to remove a window
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screen and the other suspect pretending to water the grass.
With the help of a drone operator to guide police
to the scene, the officers set up a perimeter. When
the suspects not it's the police, they ran away from
the scene, jump fences and they were eventually caught.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
But if you see this footage, you can see how
they can look into everyone's backyard.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They see everything that's going on.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And my question is, and this is more theoretical, because
I don't know where the law begins it ends. Is
your backyard part of your privacy? In other words, the
police can't just walk into your house because they think
someone is in your neighborhood, right, I'm pretty sure they can't.
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I know, there is such a thing as exigence circumstances.
But if they don't know that someone is in your house,
they just can't walk in it. In this instance, I feel, again,
this is not factual, this is not even legal. I
feel as if they had the opportunity or they had
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the ability to walk in everybody's backyard to see what
was in everyone's backyard to find these guys.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm glad that they caught them.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Let me be absolutely clear, and you got to see
the video to fully understand where I'm coming from at
mister moo Kelly on YouTube. But I wonder how I
would feel knowing that the police could look in everyone's
backyard at any time for just about any reason. And
I know someone always says, well, if you're not doing
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anything illegal, what do you have to worry about? Well,
I'm not hiding anything in my behind. It doesn't mean
that I want to consent to a cavity search. One
has nothing to do with the other. It's not about
hiding personal criminality. It's about are you comfortable with police
having the ability to look in your backyard whenever they want?
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And I get it, it's not like they were there
in their false pretenses. They were actually looking for someone.
But I think about this as someone just looking in
my backyard. I don't know if I would be comfortable
with that in a broader sense. And I tend to
think of people viewing their backyard and everything that happens
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in their backyard as an extension of their house, as
an extension of their privacy. And it's not about when
something goes right that you shouldn't question it. You should
also question it when it goes right. You should be
willing to look at Hey, Okay, not just this scenario,
(31:38):
but what about other scenarios. And maybe I haven't found
the right words to express it, to articulate it. But
I don't know if I'm comfortable with the idea of
drones just looking in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And again I'm glad that they found them. But and
I talked about this before because we were trying to
get our backyard redone and they're trying to get measurements,
and now they'll send someone out to do an estimate.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
They'll use a drone, you know, as far as landscape
in your backyard.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And I was thinking, as the drone was hovering over
my backyard, It's like, Wow, they can see in my
neighbor's yard. Maybe someone's sunbathing, or maybe they're just, you know,
doing the privacy thing in their own home. You think,
if you have a seven or eight foot high wall,
no one is looking in your backyard, and that's a
reasonable here's kind of the legality the reasonable expectation of privacy,
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and people genuinely and generally believe that when they're in
their homes, including in their backyard, there's a reasonable expectation
of privacy. And you look at this video and there
are houses two blocks away having nothing to do with
the would be crime scene, and you have to see
everything that's going on in their house.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And I have to say this, I don't know what
the answer is.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
And the funny thing is, in like ironic thing is
sometimes people think, because you're on the radio, you're trying
to present yourself as you have all the answers and
you know everything, and that couldn't be further from the truth.
I tell you what I believe, and I try to
show you my math as far as how I came
to this conclusion. But I would never profess to know
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it all or have all the answers. This is something
that I have been wrestling with for a while. It's
like you want the police to be able to do
their jobs. You want them, if you call them, to
be able to find the would be criminals, the dangerous folks,
and you don't want to hinder them. But also you
have to ask yourself the question, at what costs? What
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are you willing to be to accept? What are you
comfortable with if it weren't the use of this technology.
Would you be okay with the police just walking through
your backyard, hopping over your fence and walking through your
backyard and then hopping on the fence into the next backyard,
Because ostensibly it's the same thing for someone I don't know.
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I don't know, But that question is going to be
wrestled with. That question is going to be answered. In
other words, what are the outside boundaries? What is the
upper limit of what police can do in a situation
when they're just looking for someone and they don't know
where that someone or someone's are. If they thought that
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the suspects were in somebody's house, let's say, not in
the backyard, but in somebody's house, would you feel comfortable
with the police just knocking on the door and just
walking on in and looking Because to me, it feels
like if they have the ability to just look through
your backyards.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's like looking through your house again.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't know where the law begins and ends with
castle doctrine and whether your backyard is considered your house
and it has the same privacy expectations as the structured
portion of your house. I'm just saying, for a moment,
it felt real uncomfortable. It's later with Moe Kelly KF
I am six forty. We're live on YouTube, Instagram, and
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the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Do you think we've got all the answers? Well, we've
got news for you, chief. No, seriously, we've got news
right now.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
And I don't know, but I guess the word is out.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I don't know who officially said it, but it seems
like the Memorial Day weekend has already begun. Judging about
the traffic on the way in today, the Memorial Day
weekend has already begun.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
People are not going to work.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
They're clearly on the road driving out to Las Vegas
or Bakersfield, or driving up north to the Bay Area.
They're driving somewhere, and it seems like everyone is driving
somewhere at the same time. You might have heard Mark
Runner during the news break before the show talk about
it might be a record weekend coming up for some
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three point six million residents. In other words, people already
here in California, not talking about the people maybe coming
from out of state in to southern California. But three
point six million residents are anticipated to travel fifty miles
or more this weekend, which translates to a nearly four
(01:28):
percent increase from last year. And I'm thinking, where are
you driving to Is this a big weekend for Las Vegas?
Maybe it is, but I don't think that I would
want to go to Vegas for Memorial Day weekend. It's
just two damn hot between now and like maybe August.
I'm thinking, where's everyone driving? I don't know, but they
were on the road two day. I saw at least
(01:50):
three or four runners, no exaggeration already, yeah, and one
was actually directed at me. I had to go downtown. Well,
you must have brought it on yourself. I must have,
but I was trying not to hit someone who was
in the crosswalk riding one of those motorized scooters, and
he was indecisive.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Should I go? Should I should I not go?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Well, you have the light, dude, and I cannot go
through the intersection until you make a decision, because he
was off the curb and in the crosswalk.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And was it he who administered the middle finger? Knows
the person we will not be calling the runner. It's
the person who was the person behind me in a tesla.
Not that that matters, but I felt my point that
tesla and he.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I guess he was, and I have an SUV, so
I will chalk it up to he not being able
to see, which is directly in front of my car.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So you got a runner from behind. No, I'm just curious,
trying to make a joke. No, no, No, here's how
I went. He's behind me. There is this scooter guy
who's in the crosswalk. I'm downtown on surface streets. At
this point, I'm getting ready to make a left, I
think on Caesar Chavez. I want to make a left,
and there's like a line of cars behind me. I
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was the first car the light.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh okay, I have to stop two thirds of the
way through the intersection as I'm making this left, because
this idiot is barreling down the hill and into the intersection. Me,
being the defensive driver, said, I know he's just gonna
go straight into the intersection. Yes, he does have the light,
but he's not walking across the street.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
He is.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Barreling through the intersection in the crosswalk. So I am
trying to anticipate what he's gonna do. And he did
as exactly as I thought he was gonna do. He
came screaming into the intersection, and then he almost wanted
to put on the brakes, like, oh, I don't know
if I want to if I was gonna make the
light in time. So he stops about maybe ten feet
in the intersection, pretty much directly in front of my
car to check his phone too. No, he wasn't check
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this phone. It just seemed very confused. It was a
young guy, I want to say, maybe in his early twenties.
So I put on my brakes because I can see
what was getting ready to happen. This tesla behind me
is honking a horn. Clearly could not see. I'm just
gonna give him the benefit of doubt and saying that
he could not see what was directly in front.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Of my car. Well, wait, was it some in a
cyber truck or a regular No, it's a regular testa.
It was one of those. I think it was a
two doors today. Yeah, I don't no, no, no, it was.
It was a car.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It was a car, so he had a lower profile,
That's what I mean. I don't think he could have
seen in front of him. Oh Okay, he gets mad.
He swings out to the left of me, and I'm
and I'm scared that he's gonna hit the guy on
the scooter because he doesn't see him. But he pulls
up almost right right alongside me. And then and the
scooter guy is still in front of me, and he
gives me the runner and I just point in front.
(04:29):
And I pointed in front, like don't you see this
mother father right in front of me? You want me
to go through the intersection and just run him over? Now,
I guess the people who are like five or six
cars behind me, depending on their angle, could see him,
but the car right behind me couldn't because it was.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Far enough back that they, yes, they can see, but
he was too close.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I'm trying to be nice to him, but he was
being an a hole to me, so he decided to
And you know the Teslas, they have this like launch mode.
So after he saw the skateboard guy, the scooter guy
go in front of me, he wants to, you know,
like then that little toy car yeah, their rockets, yeah,
and it just shoots off after you give me a
roner like I was going to chase him or you know,
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road rage with him.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He seemed like he was like twenty eight, twenty nine
or something. It's like, look, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Twenty years ago, that was you, that was me, that
was me, And I would have caught up to him
at some point and told him to pull over.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Read that time is behind me, Mark is it is so,
given somebody the finger his grounds to get out of
the car and start a brawl, I'm saying twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, if someone had given me the finger and then
tried to speed off as if excuse me, ronner, yes
no that's no, yes, yes, yes, yes, and and then
sped off as if that that was going to save
the person, Yeah, I would have chased him down.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's just what I was. It's non violent the finger,
you it is, But.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
People sometimes do things from the safety of their car
thinking that they're aren't consequences.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
And back in the day, yeah, I was very hot headed.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Why not just give him one right back because he
sped off, Remember, yeah, well you're slow on the draw.
This is on you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's kind of like the last thing that's left behind
keyboard Warriors. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And a lot of times people will say stuff, they'll
make gestures thinking that it doesn't go beyond that. Now
I'm at a time in my life where I know
that someone can start shooting in a heartbeat, and I'm
not trying to catch a bullet because someone else is
having a really really bad day.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I have trained myself to not react to stuff that
other people do. You're practically a shell in Monk. I'm
trying to be an adult in my old age. I'm
trying to be better one.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
It helps for my general overall well being that I'm
not raging and yelling at people when I'm just driving
to work. And also it's like, to what end, what
do I get out of it? I just you know,
I don't even try to stare down people anymore. I
was good for a stare down, not even a little
head shoke. Someone's driving crazy or slow. I'm the one
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who pull up alongside you and you lean force. You
can see him in the car shot instead like you're
looking like what the F are you doing? Because you're
leading real forward to make it known that you're staring
at them in the other car. I was that dude.
What about the two handed what the f gesture like
on both hands in the air. I would do that too,
But I don't do that anymore. I don't respond anyway anymore.
(07:36):
I mean, if anything, it's almost like a personal face.
I'm thinking, like myself, like what the F's this guy doing?
But I'm not I'm not gesturing. I'm not doing any
of this. I'm not waving my hands. If you're on
our YouTube Simulcash, you can see what I'm doing. I'm
not doing any of that. I'm not giving anyone the runner.
I'm not doing not nothing. I am not trying to
instigate or escalate. So you're just letting people walk all
(07:58):
over you. Yeah, I'm just I'm just getting soft to
my old age huh or low te maybe lot, or
I value my life more than anything I see. Okay,
I don't want to be that person who well, actually,
let me back up. We always talk about the strange
(08:19):
dreams that we have. One of my strange recurring dreams
is I have been shot by some like sixteen or
seventeen year old And it's not necessarily while driving. It's
just that I know that young people usually have bad judgment. Yes,
I'm generalizing, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, it is true.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yes, they have bad judgment, and they're more prone to
react out of emotion and make life changing decisions because
someone disrespected them, or someone made them mad, someone cut
them off, And we see instances of this in the news,
and I don't want to catch a bullet because because
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of someone else's stupidity, not thinking past the moment, and
they do it at the drop of a hat, at
the drop of a hat, and I could be right
as rain. That person could have legitimate, legitimately cut me off.
I can be justified in my anger. But then since
I flipped him off, then since I gestured to him,
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then since I, you know, call him an mffort, and
he could read my lips, that younger person of less judgment,
and Twalla said it best. He got into a verbal
spat with a driver and it was his daughter who
calmed him down and talked to him, talked him off
the ledge, saying, basically paraphrasing, Daddy, you're mad, But that
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person could be crazy, and I don't underestimate crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So suddenly everybody's the truck driver in duel. Possibly, yeah, possibly.
You know what I would rather be. I would rather
you call me every name. I would rather you think
that I'm a punk. I rather you think that you know,
you got the best of me and walked all over me,
and I just go about my day. I hope that's maturity.
(10:10):
I hope yeah, Because you never know who's on who's
driving that car. You never know, and I'm thinking, like,
what's what is it I win? What do I get
out of it by honoring somebody?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What do I get? You're doing a public service?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, okay, but at what cost? I know you're playing
both sides here, Mark, Oh, No, I never do that.
You understand where I'm coming from, and I think it
would be I think it would be reckless on my
part and irresponsible for me to recommend otherwise for anyone else.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I see.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean, how can I talk about safety like don't
stop at a gas station tonight, but go ahead and
flip off someone and risk getting shot.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
No, that's not who I am. I have to have
some degree of consistency.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
We always talk talk about how can we better protect ourselves?
How can we be safer in a time in which
there is a concern about crime, be it on the metro,
or be it where we live, be it on our jobs,
like mass shootings, whatever. We always have to think about
what we do, where we are, where we go, which
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either increases or decreases our level of safety. That's all
I'm saying. And the things that I can control by
doing or not doing. Yeah, I'm going to do that
or not do that? Get a paintball gun. It's later
with Mo Kelly. Well, I've on YouTube, Instagram and the
iHeartRadio app. Mark, how are you feeling today? You disclosed
some information. Do I sound a little loopy? I think
(11:43):
I'm fine. I had a dentist appointment right before work,
but I am one hundred percent normal.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Now, thank you? Did they put you out or just
shoot you up? Further deponents say, if not, let's do
the news.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
You're listening to later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Kay if I am six forty is later with Mo Kelly.
We're live on YouTube, Instagram and the iHeartRadio app. Last segment,
I was talking about basically trying to get to work
today and how there was this tesla behind me then
rolled up beside me. Wanted a road rage because I
didn't want to hit the person who was a pedestrian,
if you will, riding one of those scooters in the sidewalk,
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and then we got sidebarred into this discussion about road rage.
More generally, Mark Ronner, the instigator that he is, he
was trying to egg me on no pun intended. I
say no pun intended, because Carnacia in the YouTube chat
made it very clear that she, I guess long ago.
I don't think she does it now, but would keep
(12:43):
eggs in the car to throw at people.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Oh, I like that. Are you serious? I'm seriously she.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Put it in the chat. She said it, she said it.
It's a true thing. Now we have Carneesia. Just in
case you haven't seen her, she is up on the
YouTube stream. And I don't necessarily think that's a good driving.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Uh let's say, you know, behavior.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, behavior, that's a good way to put I don't
want to want to dwell too much on it. It's
just not something I would advise. You do know that
if you throw an egg, a bullet might come back. Okay,
you may throw it.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
And you still don't have egg.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I understand.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I understand there are people who will cut you off,
people who will make you mad. But the moment you
start lobbing projectiles from your car, you've taken it somewhere else.
And we're talking about this against the backdrop of Memorial
Day weekend, and we were saying that people were going
to be driving on average some fifty miles some three
point six million residents will driving fifty miles or more
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and you might catch an egg.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Okay, I got it. I gotta I gotta mention. So
we have a runner. And Eric was started and said,
throwing an egg, that's Carnesia. It's gonna be so inside baseball.
People are not gonna know what with this show.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Look, I was going to work and then someone threw
me a runner, and then I threw back a Carnesia.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The next day knew we were fighting.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
No, that's brilliant. The only problem with it at all
is that eggs are so expensive right now. We need
eggs to come down and costs. I'm quite sure you
can find a use for eggs. You know what's the
cheapest throwing eggs? I can find it a store.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I don't look at the price of eggs because I
don't eat too many eggs really anymore, so I couldn't
tell you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Okay, Oh, I mean, I just say, don't throw them.
It's not about the price of the eggs. It's just
just don't do it. Don't do it. Oh No, I
think it's a brilliant idea. It's better than tailgating.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
No, no, no, Ali, would you rather be Roger.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh would you rather scrambled egg on your car? Yeah,
take your punishment, get the egg. How about me?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
For the safety of all involved, how about not escalating
or instigating? I say that just out of a you know,
smoky bear tips for safety only you can prevent road rage.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh and by the way, road rage.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We did a poll in the YouTube chat about how
many of you, I say, succumb to road rage. You
guys are lying. You should be one hundred percent of
you admit to some level of road rage. Well what
counts though, I mean, given the finger doesn't count. See,
that's that's my point. That's my point. People don't think
(15:34):
whatever they're doing is road rage. Some people's gonna be
some physical form of aggression, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Some people think.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Unless you try to run the guy off the road,
that you're not, you know, participating any type of road
rage event. I think personally, if you are expressing anger
to the driver, you are on the other side of
road rage. If you're expressing anger, if you're shaking your
finger at the other driver, if you're egging the driver,
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if you're honoring the driver. In other words, if you're
gesturing to the driver, you are escalating that interaction in
the moment. There are people right now listening in their
cars on AM six forty of the iHeartRadio app and
they're mad at the person next to them right now,
and this.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Is going to save somebody's life.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I think they're mad at you for trying to inflate
a simple, nonviolent action and call it road rage. You
get out of the car, Yeah, that's road rage. You
pull it to Wally, get something out of her trunk,
and go go after the other guy. Definite road rage,
but just applying a fairly polite and instructional middle finger,
that's not road rage.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I can't tell if you're being serious or not, because
according to your definition, I could roll down my window,
stare down the driver next to me like I used
to do, lean in for like, make sure they can
see my eye contact, and then call n give them, rona,
give them, and call them every name in the book,
talk about their mother, the children.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
But of course to you, that's not road rate, talk
about their ancestors. Do whatever you want unless you get
physically violent, that's not road rage. Okay, dude, you're wrong.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I can't formulate some sophisticated argument you are acting out
in rage.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Actually, I have a response for you that I'm.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Trying to I'm trying to try to give me a
ride right now. I was thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
But like how you're turning up the volume on the
stereo where you start with it upside down and then
turn it to the upright position, that I think you
deserve one of those, But no physical violence, because that
would be rage.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I would think that anything you do which escalates the
situation is you are trending towards road rage. You are
you're participating act that has nothing to do with driving,
and you are trying to instigate some sort of response
from the other driver.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Shaking your head at the other driver. Road rages is
doing the two handed What are you doing? Rod Apps?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Absolutely, you're kind of if you're doing it to the
person to get their attention. Like for example, if someone
cuts in front of you, I think it's a natural
responsibley throw up your arm, sat dude, you just cut
me off, right, But if you try to drive up
alongside them and throw up your arms and gesture to
him or her, that is an escalation.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Adding an egg might be escalations.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'll agree now now to Walla Sharp who knows a
little something about road raging, is going to give his input.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Look, I've listened to all of this wisdom being spat
about about road rage, and I have at one point
in time I have cut people off, preventing them from
driving forward, getting out.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I've kicked windows.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I've punched windows that can't have ye pulled items out
of my trump. It's plural, Yes, I have. I absolutely
have until the day out of the mouth of babes.
My daughter said, told me, Daddy, you are just angry.
Told you what if they are crazy? Told ja, what
(19:07):
if you get shot? What happens to me sitting in
the backseat of this car? What if you go to jail?
What happens to me sitting in the back seat of
this car? I hand to God, since then, I have
kept all of my rage, and so I haven't even
given anyone a ronner, a dirty look, nothing, because I
(19:28):
think about that moment. My job is to get home,
get up in morn to keep on living for my children.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And that's why that that's what changed me from road rage.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I hope Mark, one day you you want to deal
on her something, some form of joy that makes you
want to live, that you give me that that you
keep that Roner holstered both of them. I'm stopping at
the store on the way home for eggs. Went from
Ronner to Carnacius. I know all those sounds like a
(20:00):
food dish. Would you like some carnelie on top of
your runner? I think I think that that carne asado.
Ladies got a point here.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's Later with Mo Kelly, can if I Am six
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Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, you earned that one.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
When we come back, we have to talk about what
Mayor Bass is trying to do to keep jobs in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Will she be successful? We'll find out.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
KFI.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yes, Later with Mo Kelly Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app
and we're also live on YouTube and Sir William Wallace
thirteen on YouTube in the Motown chat, says, is Mo
going to say Bass is doing too little too late
in regard to this next story about LA Mayor Karen Bass,
who's issued in executive order to keep jobs in high Hollywood. No,
(21:01):
don't try to predict what I'm going to say unless
it's like Waybo or something where it's always been very
clear where I stood. You're going to be wrong most
times when you're trying to predict how I'm going to
come out on an issue, And I would say, if anything,
what La Mayork Karen Bass is doing is trying to
distract and have you talk about other things than what
(21:24):
most people would have would have a reason to discuss.
In other words, if you're going to talk about Mayor Bass,
you'll probably talk about the response to the fires. You'll
probably talk about maybe the recall effort against her, You'll
probably talk about the billion dollar shortfall for the city
of Los Angeles. Those aren't the things that Mayor Bass
(21:45):
or her advisors would want media to talk about. So
when she has this executive order which is going to
supposedly help keep jobs here in Los Angeles. Relating to
the film industry, I would say, I'm not in any
way confused. You're putting this out there to change the discussion.
(22:10):
What this executive order is is to remove some of
the red tape, so would be filmmakers and movie studios
would be more inclined to film in the city of
Los Angeles, having more access to landmarks, having access to
parks or a very recognizable scenery. Not all that many
(22:35):
major studio productions need to use LA landmarks. A lot
of it is already in public domain. I'm just being
very serious. So to answer you, Sir William Wallace thirteen, No,
I would highlight that this is a distraction to change
the subject, not whether this is going to be effective
or not. I don't think it's going to have much
(22:57):
impact on anything. Honestly, LA did.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Not make it easy for us to shoot our movie.
Speaker 6 (23:02):
Meet Austin James Wolf sut CD Guidon. He wrote, produced,
and started this film and was committed to shoot here
in Los Angeles, his adopted hometown. But it wasn't easy.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh, you also have to pay a park monitor fee.
You also have to pay a notification fee, and you
also have to pay a film use fee. And I said, well,
what about all the fees I just paid. They're like, oh, yeah,
that was just the application. That was just for the
right to film here. Now, if you actually want to
film here, you have to pay these fees in twenty
four hours or we're going to take away your permit.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And so I will be.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Signing a new executive director that will make it far
easier to film in Los Angeles movies, television shows.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And commercials.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
LA's Mayor Karen Bass announced her plan to increase Hollywood
productions here, but so far, Wolf is not impressed.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Her new proposals.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
I'll be honest, they sound like a lot of lip
service to me.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
The mayor's directive with streamline processes to film around the
Greater Los Angeles area and lower fees. She also wants
to increase access to iconic sites in LA. Like the
Wolf has an example of what he encountered when he
wanted to film in an LA library. The city required
he hired cops for an eight hour shoot.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
They would have been paid seventy five dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
How many productions need to film in the LA library.
Let's let's be honest.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Two One, the city required he hired cops for an
eight hour shoot.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
They would have been paid seventy five dollars an hour,
which I don't get paid that much at my job,
and I'm very happy that they get paid that amount,
but it just became unfeasible for our ani film.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Instead, he used a library in Seami Valley.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And then there's that, you know, Okay, So you don't
do it in the city of La Do you know
how often they use other cities posing as Los Angeles
or other cities posing as different American cities, like, for example,
the show Suits that Everyone Loved, which was on originally
the USA Network and then it was brought back to
(24:58):
life on net Flicks that supposedly set New York. They
shot that whole series in Toronto. You know, you don't
need to actually be in a city. So that takes
me back to what I'm saying about Karen Bass. She
can sign this executive order, but doesn't really change anything.
It's not about what Sir William Wallace suggested. I was
(25:20):
going to say it was doing too little, too late. No,
it doesn't really address the problem at all, and it's
not really a problem that can be solved by executive action.
And honestly, since it doesn't really do anything, it's about
changing the subject. It's about being able to have a
press conference and say this is what I'm doing to
(25:41):
help stimulate film and television production in the city of
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Will it actually do anything? That's not the point.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
But at least you're not talking about me and the fires.
At least you're not talking about me and a recall effort.
At least, you're not talking about me and this billion
dollar fall. Now how the city doesn't have any money,
Because let's talk about this on a more granular level.
Let's say you get some nickels and dimes from new
(26:11):
productions here in Los Angeles. That's just going to cancel
out the fees that they were already charging. They were
bringing in thousands and thousands of dollars each time someone
wanted a film here. So okay, so you take out
some of the fees and you have a different movie
and television productions. You're just kind of like moving money around.
(26:33):
You're not making a real discernible difference as far as
money which is going to come in and help the
city of Los Angeles. That's the real discussion I think
people should be having. It's not about too little, too late?
Is it doesn't matter? And it also does it distract
from the more important issues surrounding the mayor right about now?
(26:56):
And I don't think it does as much of anything.
And I'm sure is as I'm sitting here, that this
is about more distraction than anything substantive. It's later with
mo Kelly KFI A six forty live everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app, YouTube and Instagram. And when we come back
to finish out this hour, we'll have to tell you
about this drone and the Alhambra PD and how the
(27:19):
drone is helping the police department get it done. But
I don't know if I'm comfortable with how they got
it done. That's next.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's Later with mo Kelly. We're live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. And now I want to just have a
personal conversation with you. This is not a legal conversation.
I don't know where the law begins and ends.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Per se.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
This is about your house. This is about your privacy.
This is about what you perceive as your safety and
what you're comfortable with. There was a story about a
drone how it helped Alhamber police recently arrest the suspect
believed to be connected to a South American theft group.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Here's what happened the police drone and there's video of this.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You can see it right now on our YouTube simulcast,
so you get a sense of what the drone was
able to see. The drone spotted the suspects in a
backyard and it's in the middle of a very dense neighborhood,
suburban neighborhood. And after the drone spotted the suspects, you
could see one of them trying to remove a window
(28:47):
screen and the other suspect pretending to water the grass.
With the help of a drone operator to guide police
to the scene, the officers set up a perimeter. When
the suspects not it's the police, they ran away from
the scene, jump fences and they were eventually caught.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
But if you see this footage, you can see how
they can look into everyone's backyard.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They see everything that's going on.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And my question is, and this is more theoretical, because
I don't know where the law begins it ends. Is
your backyard part of your privacy? In other words, the
police can't just walk into your house because they think
someone is in your neighborhood, right, I'm pretty sure they can't.
(29:34):
I know, there is such a thing as exigence circumstances.
But if they don't know that someone is in your house,
they just can't walk in it. In this instance, I feel, again,
this is not factual, this is not even legal. I
feel as if they had the opportunity or they had
(29:55):
the ability to walk in everybody's backyard to see what
was in everyone's backyard to find these guys.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm glad that they caught them.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Let me be absolutely clear, and you got to see
the video to fully understand where I'm coming from at
mister moo Kelly on YouTube. But I wonder how I
would feel knowing that the police could look in everyone's
backyard at any time for just about any reason. And
I know someone always says, well, if you're not doing
(30:29):
anything illegal, what do you have to worry about? Well,
I'm not hiding anything in my behind. It doesn't mean
that I want to consent to a cavity search. One
has nothing to do with the other. It's not about
hiding personal criminality. It's about are you comfortable with police
having the ability to look in your backyard whenever they want?
(30:52):
And I get it, it's not like they were there
in their false pretenses. They were actually looking for someone.
But I think about this as someone just looking in
my backyard. I don't know if I would be comfortable
with that in a broader sense. And I tend to
think of people viewing their backyard and everything that happens
(31:17):
in their backyard as an extension of their house, as
an extension of their privacy. And it's not about when
something goes right that you shouldn't question it. You should
also question it when it goes right. You should be
willing to look at Hey, Okay, not just this scenario,
(31:38):
but what about other scenarios. And maybe I haven't found
the right words to express it, to articulate it. But
I don't know if I'm comfortable with the idea of
drones just looking in my backyard.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
And again I'm glad that they found them. But and
I talked about this before because we were trying to
get our backyard redone and they're trying to get measurements,
and now they'll send someone out to do an estimate.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
They'll use a drone, you know, as far as landscape
in your backyard.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And I was thinking, as the drone was hovering over
my backyard, It's like, Wow, they can see in my
neighbor's yard. Maybe someone's sunbathing, or maybe they're just, you know,
doing the privacy thing in their own home. You think,
if you have a seven or eight foot high wall,
no one is looking in your backyard, and that's a
reasonable here's kind of the legality the reasonable expectation of privacy,
(32:35):
and people genuinely and generally believe that when they're in
their homes, including in their backyard, there's a reasonable expectation
of privacy. And you look at this video and there
are houses two blocks away having nothing to do with
the would be crime scene, and you have to see
everything that's going on in their house.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And I have to say this, I don't know what
the answer is.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
And the funny thing is, in like ironic thing is
sometimes people think, because you're on the radio, you're trying
to present yourself as you have all the answers and
you know everything, and that couldn't be further from the truth.
I tell you what I believe, and I try to
show you my math as far as how I came
to this conclusion. But I would never profess to know
(33:20):
it all or have all the answers. This is something
that I have been wrestling with for a while. It's
like you want the police to be able to do
their jobs. You want them, if you call them, to
be able to find the would be criminals, the dangerous folks,
and you don't want to hinder them. But also you
have to ask yourself the question, at what costs? What
(33:42):
are you willing to be to accept? What are you
comfortable with if it weren't the use of this technology.
Would you be okay with the police just walking through
your backyard, hopping over your fence and walking through your
backyard and then hopping on the fence into the next backyard,
Because ostensibly it's the same thing for someone I don't know.
(34:04):
I don't know, But that question is going to be
wrestled with. That question is going to be answered. In
other words, what are the outside boundaries? What is the
upper limit of what police can do in a situation
when they're just looking for someone and they don't know
where that someone or someone's are. If they thought that
(34:25):
the suspects were in somebody's house, let's say, not in
the backyard, but in somebody's house, would you feel comfortable
with the police just knocking on the door and just
walking on in and looking Because to me, it feels
like if they have the ability to just look through
your backyards.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It's like looking through your house again.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I don't know where the law begins and ends with
castle doctrine and whether your backyard is considered your house
and it has the same privacy expectations as the structured
portion of your house. I'm just saying, for a moment,
it felt real uncomfortable. It's later with Moe Kelly KF
I am six forty. We're live on YouTube, Instagram, and
(35:09):
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Do you think we've got all the answers? Well, we've
got news for you, chief. No, seriously, we've got news
right now.
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