August 14, 2024 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the impact the closing of Macy’s will have on shopping malls nationwide AND DirecTV’s move to do away with the need for a satellite dish to access its content, rebranding as a streaming service…PLUS – Thoughts on George Lucas' classic Michael Jackson Disneyland short film ‘Captain EO’ officially becoming Star Wars canon - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Kelly six.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and often talk about
the evolution of our economy, and I may say, hey,
this is moving on one direction, or it might be
the end of movie theaters, or it might be the
end of record stores.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And it's usually abstract.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But with this recent news about Macy's closures, we can
put a pin in what we have known to be
shopping malls. They are officially on the other side of dying.
They are circling the drain. They're having their last gasp.
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This is what I mean. You may remember that macy
said in late February that it plans to close about
one hundred and fifty of its locations twenty seven. Now,
that's about twenty five percent of the company's gross square footage,
about one fourth of everything that it owns, but less
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than ten percent of its sales. In other words, it's
a it's a drag on their business to keep all
these physical locations open. But these Macy's locations, more times
than not, are what they call anchor stores. They're the
big box retailer at a shopping mall. Let's go back
in history and I think Mark and I'm gonna put
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you in on this. Because you coming from the Midwest
or having a lot of time living in the Midwest,
you'll know about this.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I remember when I was growing up and going.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To Detroit, Michigan, specifically, they would have different markets. You'd
have a meat market, you'd have your milk delivered, and
you'd get all these things from different locations. And then,
and I would say, in the early nineteen seventies you
had the evolution, and I would say the spread of
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super markets.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You go to one place and you would find all
these things.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You could buy your milk, you could buy your milk,
you meat, you could buy all these items because it was.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Under one roof. Yeah, you used to have to go
to the butcher shop.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yes, when you had like a main street and people
had specialized things, especially in the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Similarly, the whole idea of a shopping mall was instead
of having a business here where you could buy dresses,
or a business there, we could buy men's clothes or
you could buy housing goods.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The whole idea of a shopping mall is you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Would have this one location where all these stores could
come together and you would not have to divide all
your foot traffic and have people go to different locations
around the city.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
They could just come to one physical location.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The whole idea of a supermarket and a shopping mall
not all that different, with the exception of the shopping
mall has been replaced where you can have the online
shopping mall. You can get everything in one place, call
it Amazon, call it eBay whatever. You don't need to
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go to a physical location in the shop. Like for example,
in the past month, I've bought two or three pairs
of pants, a pair of shoes, different dress shirts, and
I never needed to leave my house and it was easy.
I knew what I wanted, a few clicks done. I
didn't have to drive to Dilomo Mall or any other mall.
I saved the gas, I saved the time, and I
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didn't have to cut into my workday to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The convenience is what is killing the mall.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The flip side is when you have these anchor stores,
going back to the Macy's story, when you had the
anchor stores leaving, there's really even less reason to go
to a shopping mall because if there's no anchor store,
what am I going for?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know. Twenty one forever.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know, am I am I going for the gas
app Banana Republic. Why would I go to a shopping
mall now, especially when you don't have that big box
retailer which was bringing in the most amount of people.
You would go for a Nordstrom, You would go for
a Macy's. Back in the day with it was Bullocks,
it was Woolworth, it was Sears. You No Sears has
gone now, so you don't have those big box retailers.
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Let me get back to this, because we can point
at this moment that shopping malls are going to be
no more in the near future. Macy's is selling off
a lot of it's real estate because they want to
make it available for real estate development where they could
have a construction of a medical building or a retirement community,
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or as a grocery store, which I was talking about,
because grocery stores are not going to go out of
style anytime soon. In fact, you need more grocery stores
than what you have, depending on where you live. In
certain parts of the city, like where I live, there
are very few grocery stores and there are opportunities for
there to be more grocery stores, and they close their Yes,
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or in my neighborhood at the least they did.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They will stay open to one am. Let me give
you some math.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Macy's has closed more than a third of its stores
over the last ten years. As of May, we're just
talking about two three months ago, Macy's had five hundred
and three stores. Okay, temper excuse me, more than a
third have already been closed. Now, let's talk about malls.
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And they usually divide up malls into class A, B,
C and D. Has to do with occupancy rates in size,
so you know, as biggest and so forth. There were
three hundred and fifty two shopping malls classified as A
and B at the end of twenty sixteen, three hundred
and fifty two. That fell to three hundred and sixteen
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by the end of twenty twenty two. And that's before
Macy's closed a lot of their stores. And you know,
Macy's is just about connected to every mall. It's rare
that you'll see just a MA and nothing around it.
That's the A and B side. Shopping malls now go
to class C and D shopping malls. There were six
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hundred and eighty four of them in twenty sixteen. In
twenty twenty two. And this is not now. I'm saying
twenty twenty two. It fell from six eighty four to
two eighty seven, about two thirds. Maybe they're not coming back.
How we shop is not going to change. You're not
going to be able to beat the internet because now
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we have a full generation of not more, of people
who are comfortable buying everything online. I remember when the
online revolution started. I said, there's no way in the
world I would ever buy a pair of shoes, excuse me,
pair of.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Shoes or clothes online.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Because I need to be able to try it on.
I need to see how it feels on my bike.
It need to be able to have that tactile moment
where I can see is this material something I want
on my body. Now it's like I can't wait to
get home to buy something online.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm not going to take time out of my day
and drive somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You need to ask the person who works there in
the clothing section if those pants make your ass look big.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, I know they make my ass look good. I
don't need that. They've got the mirror a little pear shaped.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, But also, and I don't know if it's true
with you with me when I'm shopping. I actually want
to deal with fewer people well, and you want to
avoid avoid their humiliating gaze when you buy something that
maybe you're a little embarrassed. No, no, no, no, no, I don't.
I don't buy my thongs in public. Okay, But my
point is I would rather just I know what I want.
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I don't need help other than just pointing to the
to the changing room. If I'm physically in your presence.
I don't want to go through the whole interaction. I
don't want to be bothered. I just want to get
my stuff and go. And the easiest way for me
to get my stuff and go is to just buy
it online. I'm a big Nike guy. I don't need
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to go to the Nike store. I can go to
the Nike app. I can go to the Nike website
and get exactly what I want. I know my shoe size.
If I need an accessory, it's right there. Why do
I need to drive to a Nike outlet store. It's
not necessary, and it'll get to me in twenty four
hours in most instances, maybe two days. But usually if
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I buy something, I can wait. If I buy something today,
and it gets here on Friday or Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
But if you don't travel to a mall and walk
around in it, where is your chance of being involved
in a mass shooting? Where's your sense of sporting?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, then there's that we live in a society today.
You have to make you have to take other things
into consideration. And I'm not real big on big crowds
anymore or hooligans.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. Well, see that's something else.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Every time I go out, I see young people doing
something that I really really can't stand and I don't
want to deal with that. When I'm in a mall,
if they're running through the mall acting like a holes
or bothering people, I'm the one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I can't keep my mouth shut. You're no billy Jack,
you know that. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Look, that's a great movie, and that's one of the
first uses of hop keto in a movie, one of
the first mainstream uses outside of the Green Hornet, of
any kind of marshall. Are you yeah, yeah, so yeah,
I'm at that point in life where I don't feel
like interacting with a holes and going to a shopping
mall that that increases the likelihood of doing that. So
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it's easier just to do my shopping at home. I
don't have to deal with all the inconveniences of it.
I don't have to deal with the lines. I don't
have to deal with the I'll say, the inappropriate interactions
with the with the the salesperson.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Hi, are you.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Getting that for your wife today? No, I'm getting for
my mistress. Well, what's with all the personal questions? You
don't need to ask you. Oh, they'll say, you look
at something for your wife today. No, I just like
to look at underwears for women.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Just stop asking questions. I don't like being asked questions
when I'm shopping, that's all. So shopping online is better
for misanthropy. Correct, Okay, good, It's Later with mo Kelly.
Care if I am six forty Live Everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we have so much
more to talk about with Mark Runner's life, That's all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
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Speaker 2 (10:25):
KFI Mister mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
and Mark Ronnerd was talking about the movie Billy Jack.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I love.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
If there's anything cool about getting older, it's going back
and watching movies that you might have seen twenty even
thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They're like brand new movies.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Because you're a different person, you may have different life experiences,
you can relate to the movie differently. I enjoyed, for example,
Enter the Dragon much more in my forties than I
did my Team.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Masterpiece neber Klaus, the director.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, you can appreciate the subtleties some of the cinematography,
the filming techniques, the lensing, music right, all of those things.
So you mentioned like Billy Jack, and that has a
connection to my art because bongsu Han.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
The late master.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, he used to have a hop kito studio in
Santa Monica. He was a legend here in Los Angeles
and my first master, I studied under uh Master teymon
Kwan was very very close with him, and so when
we would have tests sometimes he would come through, so
be able to see him.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's like Billy Jack. You know Bo su Hon, He's
the one in.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Martial arts circles who I would say expose the United
States to the art of Hopkeito.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Also, did you see bangsu Han in Force five. Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, And if you've seen Bruce Lee's Game of Death,
there is a Master jehan Ji who is the Master
of Grandmaster of my original Master at Master Kwan.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He fights Master G.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Bruce Lee fights Master G before he fights Kream Abdul Jabbar.
He Master G has this white and gold le mat uniform.
And people were looking at hop Keto they didn't even
know it's the throws and the joint locks. So you know, yeah,
when you say billy jacket, it reminds me of kind
of how and why I got into hot keto and
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so why I'm high on the martial art. And I
was talking yesterday and I'll tell you about it all
this week. About this open house that we're having at
my studio at song Sap Keto in Culver City. You
can go to my Instagram, you go to you go
to my Facebook page. You can sign up there. We're
doing a free class for both kids and adults. I'll
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be teaching people ask me's like, mo, what is it
you do? Want to hear more about your marst arts? Well,
you're gonna see me in action, actually teaching a kids
class an adults class. If you're curious for yourself as
an adult. If you're there, is for your kids. And
I say kids, that's anyone under the age of seventeen.
Come on out, take a class. It's free. We're not
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trying to sell you anything. We're just trying to expose
you to something. And you know, there's so much that
you can learn from traditional martial arts that you can
take with you in life. It's not about just learning
how to fight, No, it's about self defense, which is.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Something completely different.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's something that you can take with you every single
day everywhere you go. Your mindset, your breathing, your managing
of motions is great for kids to learn how goal setting,
learn discipline and consistency.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Highly recommend we'll be doing these classes.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I should say I'll be doing this special classes this
Saturday from eight fifty am to eleven fifty am. You
can get all the information on my different instagram that
at mister Mokelly at Later with mo Kelly. You can
sign yourself up, sign your kids up. We just want
to know how many people are coming because there are
two sessions, so we need to know how many kids,
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how many adults. And it's really really easiest. It's not pretentious.
I don't want you to feel intimidated by any of it.
It's just an easy way and a freeway to expose
you to something I love with all my heart and
it's something that I'm going to do as long as
my body allows me to do it, which will hopefully
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be the rest of my life. So Mark, when you
said Billy Jackiet just triggered all these memories and associations
where people see a lot of hot keto in movies,
they just don't recognize it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
There's certain moves it's like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's definitely hop keto, and it's just someone who's just
doing it, not actually giving attribution.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Those movies are so good. I love well.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
The Born Losers was the first one, and I love
that one so much that I actually wrote a Vamparella
nineteen sixty nine story based on The Born Losers, except
putting Vamparella, this scantily clad vampire character, into the role
of the female motorcyclist who's chased down but she turns
the table on at the end. Those movies are so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, I love watching them, and it's not the best
as far as cinematography. It's not the best movie because
a lot of them were made on shoe string budgets.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
They're any movies.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, Tom Laughlin made those, and they made a phenomenal,
superhuman amount of money. Yes he did playing around the
country on the drive in circuit that sort of thing.
He became phenomenally rich with those. So can't get enough
of them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And I said all that to say, when I go home,
probably tonight and into this weekend, I'll probably revisit a
lot of those movies. They bring about great memories, but
also it was a great time in cinema history. I
don't think that we'll have a golden age of those
films anymore. You'll have certain actors who will do movies
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here and there. You'll have a John Wick and they'll
have martial arts in them, but you have an actual
martial arts movie.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
They don't do those anymore, unfortunately. Well they're all kind
of straight.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The video of Scott Adkins type things these days, and
Scott Adkins, by the way, is terrific. Yep, But you
don't like I remember when Jet Lee really had a
good string of big budget A list martial arts movies.
You don't really get that anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The closest thing we've seen to it is maybe Donna
Yin in the ip Men series most recently, and those
are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
They're really well made, and he is a terrific star.
But he's aging out of it, unfortunately he is.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And unfortunately there are some physical limitations, like you're not
going to have Jackie Chan doing anything anymore of a
physical in a physical sense. So I don't know. Everything
is cyclical. Maybe we'll come back in ten fifteen years
or so. But again, come out and see us at
Songs Hop Keto four three five four Superlvita Boulevart in
Culver City this Saturday.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I'll be teaching the kids and adults class free.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Just sign up on my Instagram or Facebook at mister
mom' kelly at Later with Mo Kelly. Would love to
see you and expose you to something that I love
with all my heart. It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI
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is I Switch gears. We talk about streaming, we talk
about cool things to watch on streaming, but let's not
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get lost in the content. It's also about the content delivery.
I used to have direct TV back in the day.
This is pre streaming. This is when they charge you
two hundred dollars a month. This is when they had
that big ass satellite dish to put outside your window.
And if you're living in an apartment, it was not
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always easy to get direct TV. But back then, I
want to say, in the early two thousands, it was
the gold standard. When it came to cable slash satellite,
direct TV. It was supposed to be the best, supposed
to be the most reliable. It was neither. It was
the most expensive, That's what it was. And I left
Direct TV for two reasons. One, they had these plans
(19:25):
they'd lock you in for all these channels, have maybe
three tiers, but they were ridiculous, all these channels that
you would never watch. And I think personally, direct TV
helped usher in the streaming era be able to have
a la carte TV because of corporations like DirecTV. And
(19:46):
after a while, I couldn't pay two hundred dollars a
month for all these things. When I say two hundred dollars,
you're paying for the programming, and then you're also paying
for the set top boxes, or at least back then
you were. You'd have a box in every room that
had a TV. I had three rooms with TVs. I'd
like to be able to have satellite in every single room.
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I don't think that was strange, but it was expensive.
And then this was at the advent of the DVR,
which was another set top box that you had to
pay for physical equipment, and so the prices were just
the cost each month was getting astronomical. Then you had
the streaming revolution, and then companies like DirecTV were very
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slow to change course and they lost a lot of
subscribers like me, and they lost a lot of money.
Now Direct TV has seen the light and they're transforming
into say it with me, a streaming service thanks to
people just like me. I get this all by myself.
I built that satellite dish will no longer be needed
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for Direct TV. In a significant branding move, or I
should say a rebranding move, Direct TV is now positioning
itself as a streaming service thanks to mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Why he doesn't say that, but I'm just gonna put
myself in there.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Eliminating the need for a satellite dish to access its content.
The company is launching a new ad campaign to communicate
this change to its customers, and DirecTV is promoting its
PayTV bundle and that doesn't need a dish. The company
traditionally known for offering TVV bundles via satellite dishes, has
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started a new ad campaign called.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
For the Birds that Sounds Really bad.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The campaign is designed to emphasize DirecTV's transformation into a
streaming company. Well, welcome to twenty seventeen. Glad you could
make it. Streaming has been here a while, and DirecTV says, haha,
we're all new, we have streaming.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I've had streaming for the past I don't know, twelve
thirteen years as long as I've been at KFI, and
DirecTV says, we're now streaming, but anyhow, But of course
DirecTV and other traditional cable providers, I know direct TV satellite,
but I'm saying they were losing subscribers. They were losing
customers to streaming services because who wants to be shackled
(22:09):
to a satellite dish to get your content? And for
a while, I know DirecTV was experimenting with a streaming option,
and then they realized, well, why don't we just go
streaming the whole way? And so they figured out they
caught up to the rest of us, and now they've
this is what they said, quote, we built this as
an alternative we know that eighty percent of people prefer
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not to push put the dish on the side of
their house.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yes, what, I think that was supposed to be some
kind of fancy status symbol.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It was in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh yeah, but now it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I can literally look at every one of my channels
on my phone, on my tablet, on a TV, I
can look at it on my phone and.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Cast it to my TV. I don't need a saddlle light.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And obviously when you know it starts raining or there's
a thunderstorm, it interferes with the satellite signal.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It was so far behind, I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Really surprised it took Direct TV this long to get with.
We always talk about how companies are slow to evolve.
You can talk about like the Thomas math guye. They
couldn't figure out that GPS was coming. You could talk
about Motorola phones. They couldn't get with smartphones. They couldn't
keep up with their own industry. Direct TV couldn't keep
up with its own industry. Streaming is not new, and
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everyone was leaving for streaming on some level. On some level,
maybe you didn't have live TV like you Mark Ronnert,
but you had different streaming services.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
If you're case in the neighborhood to decide which homes
to rob, what are you going to do now? If
people don't have the satellite dishes up.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well you have to know that they have a satellite
dish up. They're probably way behind the time. They don't
have a smart TV. Yeah, it's upside down now.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, you want to avoid the ones with the satellite dishes, right,
they're to have a rolex for you to steal.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Back in the day, it was a status almost like oh,
direct TV because everyone knew that was premium. You're paying
more money than the other cable companies. No, we all
have cable, we have satellite. And remember Direct TV had
that very cool ad campaign. It's like, don't be a
so and so. You know you'd have like a Peyton
Manning and someone else. You know, Peyton Manning was cool,
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Cable wasn't cool, and they'd had that long.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I have to look up the ad. Was it like
Dane Cook who was the uncool.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, I can't remember, but I'm saying it was like,
you know, satellite is cool. Cable's uncool, and it's like, no,
you are not cool. None of it is cool. It's
they were just behind the times and they didn't realize
that the world had moved on to streaming a long
time ago. And it's funny now they want to rebrand
(24:50):
and reposition itself as a streaming entity when the horse
has already left the barn. Thank you, you owe me
some thanks for this direct TV. I tried to tell
you you back in the late nineties, early two thousands,
but you didn't want to listen.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You did not want to listen. You're welcome though.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's later with Mo Kelly Kfi AM six forty one
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And when we come
back with I'll tell you about Captain EO. If you're
an Angelino, if you're from southern California, you remember seeing
Captain EO that video. I'll say, it's not really a ride,
but it's an experience that they had at Disneyland. I
loved it. I was sad when they took it away,
(25:29):
and I think they took it away. Well, actually I
know they took it away in part because of some
of the issues surrounding Michael Jackson when it was most
problematic awkward. Yeah, you have that juxtaposition of Michael Jackson
his court issues in Disneyland. Captain EO had to go, well,
we have an update and it's a Star Wars update.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Believe it or not. That's next.
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KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Then, depending on your age, you may not remember Captain EO,
which was an attraction at Disneyland. It was a seventeen
minute movie and Captain EO Michael Jackson's character. He is
traveling through the galaxy to transform the Supreme Leader, who
was played by Angelica Houston if I remember correctly, back
to her true self and as a result, save the galaxy.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
This is a little bit of Captain EO.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's a seventeen minute movie.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Ooh word, Okay, I'm told you I'd find her any
fide Africa.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You're backed my world with your presence.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The other is it to.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Cast cat.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You let it trust and for him.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
One hundred years.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I've thought.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
In my deepest stench.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Your Highness, my loyal companions, and I accept these punishments.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
We do, of course, do you yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You have come here uninvited and unannounced, so then we
will go send me into your.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
You get it?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Why have you come to bring a gift to your
Highness to someone as beautiful as you. He's not all
that intimidating being me beautiful, very beautiful with seeing your Highness,
but without a key to unlock it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And that is my gift to you.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Let me see get it on his shoulder, Highness.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
On his shoulder is a little fuzzy character and his
name is Fuzzball. It's the titular character in that he's
real instrumental in saving Captain EO and saving the universe.
But in the recently released trailer by Disney at the
d twenty three Festival, there is a new show coming
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out called Skeleton Crew, which is in the Star Wars universe,
and Fuzzball, who was in Captain EO is in Skeleton Crew,
which makes everything which happens in Skeleton Crew cannon And
for all the people who like connectivity, Michael Jackson is
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a part of Star Wars.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It was funky. They had pop blocking, Great Dante, the
classic moves of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was very cool back in the late eighties nineteen
nineties and then you know it all fell apart when
Michael's career fell apart because of his other stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You probably want to keep him away from the Kid
in the Phantom Menace, right. Oh yeah, Like I'm the
jerk for bringing this up as opposed to the people
who did it and covered it up.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Look, I'm just talking about Captain Neo.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I'm just talking about why it was at Disneyland and
then it was removed from Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So, Michael Jackson, Captain EO is a part of Star
Wars canon. He's in the same universe as Hans Solo,
Luke Skywalker, Princess Leah, Chewbacca, Ya, Jake Lloyd.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Anakin, Skywalker, the Kid Yeah Verse.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Before we go to break, I was saying last segment
about direct TV and how direct TV had this. It
was funny this campaign talking about you want to be
cool like direct TV, not uncool like cable, and I
remember thinking at the time direct TV is not cool.
It's way behind the times. You may remember it.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Hi, I'm Peyton Manny and I have Direct TV.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And I'm really high voice. Peyton Manning and I have
cable only.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Direct TV let you watch NFL Sunday ticket games live
on all your devices with cable.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I can't do that. It's like.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
I get to take all the games with me.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I sing with the four tunesmen.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
This song.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Don't be like this me. You get an NFL Sunday
ticket only on direct TV, Call one eight hundred direct TV.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It was it wasn't cool then it wasn't cool.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It was a funny commercial, but the whole idea of
direct TV being cool, It's like, don't you see where
all this is going?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No one wants to pay two hundred dollars just to
have satellite.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, but didn't you most seek to emulate Peyton Manning
when you were young. Wasn't here role model of yours?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
He was actually during the prime of his career. He
was well into my adulthood. He's younger than me. I say,
oh oops, not Archie Manning.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
This is Peyton. Well hard to keep track, what do
you want? I think he's like mid forties now something
like that. Oh way younger? Oh yeah, yeah, thank you, Mark.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's later with Mokelly can if I am six forty,
we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio.
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Kelly six.
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Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and often talk about
the evolution of our economy, and I may say, hey,
this is moving on one direction, or it might be
the end of movie theaters, or it might be the
end of record stores.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
And it's usually abstract.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But with this recent news about Macy's closures, we can
put a pin in what we have known to be
shopping malls. They are officially on the other side of dying.
They are circling the drain. They're having their last gasp.
(00:48):
This is what I mean. You may remember that macy
said in late February that it plans to close about
one hundred and fifty of its locations twenty seven. Now,
that's about twenty five percent of the company's gross square footage,
about one fourth of everything that it owns, but less
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than ten percent of its sales. In other words, it's
a it's a drag on their business to keep all
these physical locations open. But these Macy's locations, more times
than not, are what they call anchor stores. They're the
big box retailer at a shopping mall. Let's go back
in history and I think Mark and I'm gonna put
(01:31):
you in on this. Because you coming from the Midwest
or having a lot of time living in the Midwest,
you'll know about this.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I remember when I was growing up and going.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
To Detroit, Michigan, specifically, they would have different markets. You'd
have a meat market, you'd have your milk delivered, and
you'd get all these things from different locations. And then,
and I would say, in the early nineteen seventies you
had the evolution, and I would say the spread of
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super markets.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You go to one place and you would find all
these things.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You could buy your milk, you could buy your milk,
you meat, you could buy all these items because it was.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Under one roof. Yeah, you used to have to go
to the butcher shop.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yes, when you had like a main street and people
had specialized things, especially in the Midwest.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Similarly, the whole idea of a shopping mall was instead
of having a business here where you could buy dresses,
or a business there, we could buy men's clothes or
you could buy housing goods.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The whole idea of a shopping mall is you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Would have this one location where all these stores could
come together and you would not have to divide all
your foot traffic and have people go to different locations
around the city.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
They could just come to one physical location.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
The whole idea of a supermarket and a shopping mall
not all that different, with the exception of the shopping
mall has been replaced where you can have the online
shopping mall. You can get everything in one place, call
it Amazon, call it eBay whatever. You don't need to
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go to a physical location in the shop. Like for example,
in the past month, I've bought two or three pairs
of pants, a pair of shoes, different dress shirts, and
I never needed to leave my house and it was easy.
I knew what I wanted, a few clicks done. I
didn't have to drive to Dilomo Mall or any other mall.
I saved the gas, I saved the time, and I
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didn't have to cut into my workday to do it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The convenience is what is killing the mall.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The flip side is when you have these anchor stores,
going back to the Macy's story, when you had the
anchor stores leaving, there's really even less reason to go
to a shopping mall because if there's no anchor store,
what am I going for?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know. Twenty one forever.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know, am I am I going for the gas
app Banana Republic. Why would I go to a shopping
mall now, especially when you don't have that big box
retailer which was bringing in the most amount of people.
You would go for a Nordstrom, You would go for
a Macy's. Back in the day with it was Bullocks,
it was Woolworth, it was Sears. You No Sears has
gone now, so you don't have those big box retailers.
(04:18):
Let me get back to this, because we can point
at this moment that shopping malls are going to be
no more in the near future. Macy's is selling off
a lot of it's real estate because they want to
make it available for real estate development where they could
have a construction of a medical building or a retirement community,
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or as a grocery store, which I was talking about,
because grocery stores are not going to go out of
style anytime soon. In fact, you need more grocery stores
than what you have, depending on where you live. In
certain parts of the city, like where I live, there
are very few grocery stores and there are opportunities for
there to be more grocery stores, and they close their Yes,
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or in my neighborhood at the least they did.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They will stay open to one am. Let me give
you some math.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Macy's has closed more than a third of its stores
over the last ten years. As of May, we're just
talking about two three months ago, Macy's had five hundred
and three stores. Okay, temper excuse me, more than a
third have already been closed. Now, let's talk about malls.
(05:26):
And they usually divide up malls into class A, B,
C and D. Has to do with occupancy rates in size,
so you know, as biggest and so forth. There were
three hundred and fifty two shopping malls classified as A
and B at the end of twenty sixteen, three hundred
and fifty two. That fell to three hundred and sixteen
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by the end of twenty twenty two. And that's before
Macy's closed a lot of their stores. And you know,
Macy's is just about connected to every mall. It's rare
that you'll see just a MA and nothing around it.
That's the A and B side. Shopping malls now go
to class C and D shopping malls. There were six
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hundred and eighty four of them in twenty sixteen. In
twenty twenty two. And this is not now. I'm saying
twenty twenty two. It fell from six eighty four to
two eighty seven, about two thirds. Maybe they're not coming back.
How we shop is not going to change. You're not
going to be able to beat the internet because now
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we have a full generation of not more, of people
who are comfortable buying everything online. I remember when the
online revolution started. I said, there's no way in the
world I would ever buy a pair of shoes, excuse me,
pair of.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Shoes or clothes online.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Because I need to be able to try it on.
I need to see how it feels on my bike.
It need to be able to have that tactile moment
where I can see is this material something I want
on my body. Now it's like I can't wait to
get home to buy something online.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I'm not going to take time out of my day
and drive somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You need to ask the person who works there in
the clothing section if those pants make your ass look big.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, I know they make my ass look good. I
don't need that. They've got the mirror a little pear shaped.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, But also, and I don't know if it's true
with you with me when I'm shopping. I actually want
to deal with fewer people well, and you want to
avoid avoid their humiliating gaze when you buy something that
maybe you're a little embarrassed. No, no, no, no, no, I don't.
I don't buy my thongs in public. Okay, But my
point is I would rather just I know what I want.
(07:37):
I don't need help other than just pointing to the
to the changing room. If I'm physically in your presence.
I don't want to go through the whole interaction. I
don't want to be bothered. I just want to get
my stuff and go. And the easiest way for me
to get my stuff and go is to just buy
it online. I'm a big Nike guy. I don't need
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to go to the Nike store. I can go to
the Nike app. I can go to the Nike website
and get exactly what I want. I know my shoe size.
If I need an accessory, it's right there. Why do
I need to drive to a Nike outlet store. It's
not necessary, and it'll get to me in twenty four
hours in most instances, maybe two days. But usually if
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I buy something, I can wait. If I buy something today,
and it gets here on Friday or Saturday.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Good enough.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
But if you don't travel to a mall and walk
around in it, where is your chance of being involved
in a mass shooting? Where's your sense of sporting?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, then there's that we live in a society today.
You have to make you have to take other things
into consideration. And I'm not real big on big crowds
anymore or hooligans.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. Well, see that's something else.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Every time I go out, I see young people doing
something that I really really can't stand and I don't
want to deal with that. When I'm in a mall,
if they're running through the mall acting like a holes
or bothering people, I'm the one.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I can't keep my mouth shut. You're no billy Jack,
you know that. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Look, that's a great movie, and that's one of the
first uses of hop keto in a movie, one of
the first mainstream uses outside of the Green Hornet, of
any kind of marshall. Are you yeah, yeah, so yeah,
I'm at that point in life where I don't feel
like interacting with a holes and going to a shopping
mall that that increases the likelihood of doing that. So
(09:27):
it's easier just to do my shopping at home. I
don't have to deal with all the inconveniences of it.
I don't have to deal with the lines. I don't
have to deal with the I'll say, the inappropriate interactions
with the with the the salesperson.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Hi, are you.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Getting that for your wife today? No, I'm getting for
my mistress. Well, what's with all the personal questions? You
don't need to ask you. Oh, they'll say, you look
at something for your wife today. No, I just like
to look at underwears for women.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Just stop asking questions. I don't like being asked questions
when I'm shopping, that's all. So shopping online is better
for misanthropy. Correct, Okay, good, It's Later with mo Kelly.
Care if I am six forty Live Everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we have so much
more to talk about with Mark Runner's life, That's all
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
KFI Mister mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
and Mark Ronnerd was talking about the movie Billy Jack.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I love.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
If there's anything cool about getting older, it's going back
and watching movies that you might have seen twenty even
thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
They're like brand new movies.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Because you're a different person, you may have different life experiences,
you can relate to the movie differently. I enjoyed, for example,
Enter the Dragon much more in my forties than I
did my Team.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Masterpiece neber Klaus, the director.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, you can appreciate the subtleties some of the cinematography,
the filming techniques, the lensing, music right, all of those things.
So you mentioned like Billy Jack, and that has a
connection to my art because bongsu Han.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
The late master.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, he used to have a hop kito studio in
Santa Monica. He was a legend here in Los Angeles
and my first master, I studied under uh Master teymon
Kwan was very very close with him, and so when
we would have tests sometimes he would come through, so
be able to see him.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
It's like Billy Jack. You know Bo su Hon, He's
the one in.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Martial arts circles who I would say expose the United
States to the art of Hopkeito.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Also, did you see bangsu Han in Force five. Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yes, And if you've seen Bruce Lee's Game of Death,
there is a Master jehan Ji who is the Master
of Grandmaster of my original Master at Master Kwan.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He fights Master G.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Bruce Lee fights Master G before he fights Kream Abdul Jabbar.
He Master G has this white and gold le mat uniform.
And people were looking at hop Keto they didn't even
know it's the throws and the joint locks. So you know, yeah,
when you say billy jacket, it reminds me of kind
of how and why I got into hot keto and
(12:27):
so why I'm high on the martial art. And I
was talking yesterday and I'll tell you about it all
this week. About this open house that we're having at
my studio at song Sap Keto in Culver City. You
can go to my Instagram, you go to you go
to my Facebook page. You can sign up there. We're
doing a free class for both kids and adults. I'll
(12:47):
be teaching people ask me's like, mo, what is it
you do? Want to hear more about your marst arts? Well,
you're gonna see me in action, actually teaching a kids
class an adults class. If you're curious for yourself as
an adult. If you're there, is for your kids. And
I say kids, that's anyone under the age of seventeen.
Come on out, take a class. It's free. We're not
(13:09):
trying to sell you anything. We're just trying to expose
you to something. And you know, there's so much that
you can learn from traditional martial arts that you can
take with you in life. It's not about just learning
how to fight, No, it's about self defense, which is.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Something completely different.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's something that you can take with you every single
day everywhere you go. Your mindset, your breathing, your managing
of motions is great for kids to learn how goal setting,
learn discipline and consistency.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Highly recommend we'll be doing these classes.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I should say I'll be doing this special classes this
Saturday from eight fifty am to eleven fifty am. You
can get all the information on my different instagram that
at mister Mokelly at Later with mo Kelly. You can
sign yourself up, sign your kids up. We just want
to know how many people are coming because there are
two sessions, so we need to know how many kids,
(14:01):
how many adults. And it's really really easiest. It's not pretentious.
I don't want you to feel intimidated by any of it.
It's just an easy way and a freeway to expose
you to something I love with all my heart and
it's something that I'm going to do as long as
my body allows me to do it, which will hopefully
(14:21):
be the rest of my life. So Mark, when you
said Billy Jackiet just triggered all these memories and associations
where people see a lot of hot keto in movies,
they just don't recognize it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
There's certain moves it's like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
That's definitely hop keto, and it's just someone who's just
doing it, not actually giving attribution.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Those movies are so good. I love well.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
The Born Losers was the first one, and I love
that one so much that I actually wrote a Vamparella
nineteen sixty nine story based on The Born Losers, except
putting Vamparella, this scantily clad vampire character, into the role
of the female motorcyclist who's chased down but she turns
the table on at the end. Those movies are so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, I love watching them, and it's not the best
as far as cinematography. It's not the best movie because
a lot of them were made on shoe string budgets.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
They're any movies.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, Tom Laughlin made those, and they made a phenomenal,
superhuman amount of money. Yes he did playing around the
country on the drive in circuit that sort of thing.
He became phenomenally rich with those. So can't get enough
of them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
And I said all that to say, when I go home,
probably tonight and into this weekend, I'll probably revisit a
lot of those movies. They bring about great memories, but
also it was a great time in cinema history. I
don't think that we'll have a golden age of those
films anymore. You'll have certain actors who will do movies
(15:47):
here and there. You'll have a John Wick and they'll
have martial arts in them, but you have an actual
martial arts movie.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
They don't do those anymore, unfortunately. Well they're all kind
of straight.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
The video of Scott Adkins type things these days, and
Scott Adkins, by the way, is terrific. Yep, But you
don't like I remember when Jet Lee really had a
good string of big budget A list martial arts movies.
You don't really get that anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The closest thing we've seen to it is maybe Donna
Yin in the ip Men series most recently, and those
are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
They're really well made, and he is a terrific star.
But he's aging out of it, unfortunately he is.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And unfortunately there are some physical limitations, like you're not
going to have Jackie Chan doing anything anymore of a
physical in a physical sense. So I don't know. Everything
is cyclical. Maybe we'll come back in ten fifteen years
or so. But again, come out and see us at
Songs Hop Keto four three five four Superlvita Boulevart in
Culver City this Saturday.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I'll be teaching the kids and adults class free.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Just sign up on my Instagram or Facebook at mister
mom' kelly at Later with Mo Kelly. Would love to
see you and expose you to something that I love
with all my heart. It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI
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is I Switch gears. We talk about streaming, we talk
about cool things to watch on streaming, but let's not
(18:40):
get lost in the content. It's also about the content delivery.
I used to have direct TV back in the day.
This is pre streaming. This is when they charge you
two hundred dollars a month. This is when they had
that big ass satellite dish to put outside your window.
And if you're living in an apartment, it was not
(19:01):
always easy to get direct TV. But back then, I
want to say, in the early two thousands, it was
the gold standard. When it came to cable slash satellite,
direct TV. It was supposed to be the best, supposed
to be the most reliable. It was neither. It was
the most expensive, That's what it was. And I left
Direct TV for two reasons. One, they had these plans
(19:25):
they'd lock you in for all these channels, have maybe
three tiers, but they were ridiculous, all these channels that
you would never watch. And I think personally, direct TV
helped usher in the streaming era be able to have
a la carte TV because of corporations like DirecTV. And
(19:46):
after a while, I couldn't pay two hundred dollars a
month for all these things. When I say two hundred dollars,
you're paying for the programming, and then you're also paying
for the set top boxes, or at least back then
you were. You'd have a box in every room that
had a TV. I had three rooms with TVs. I'd
like to be able to have satellite in every single room.
(20:06):
I don't think that was strange, but it was expensive.
And then this was at the advent of the DVR,
which was another set top box that you had to
pay for physical equipment, and so the prices were just
the cost each month was getting astronomical. Then you had
the streaming revolution, and then companies like DirecTV were very
(20:29):
slow to change course and they lost a lot of
subscribers like me, and they lost a lot of money.
Now Direct TV has seen the light and they're transforming
into say it with me, a streaming service thanks to
people just like me. I get this all by myself.
I built that satellite dish will no longer be needed
(20:51):
for Direct TV. In a significant branding move, or I
should say a rebranding move, Direct TV is now positioning
itself as a streaming service thanks to mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Why he doesn't say that, but I'm just gonna put
myself in there.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Eliminating the need for a satellite dish to access its content.
The company is launching a new ad campaign to communicate
this change to its customers, and DirecTV is promoting its
PayTV bundle and that doesn't need a dish. The company
traditionally known for offering TVV bundles via satellite dishes, has
(21:25):
started a new ad campaign called.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
For the Birds that Sounds Really bad.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The campaign is designed to emphasize DirecTV's transformation into a
streaming company. Well, welcome to twenty seventeen. Glad you could
make it. Streaming has been here a while, and DirecTV says, haha,
we're all new, we have streaming.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I've had streaming for the past I don't know, twelve
thirteen years as long as I've been at KFI, and
DirecTV says, we're now streaming, but anyhow, But of course
DirecTV and other traditional cable providers, I know direct TV satellite,
but I'm saying they were losing subscribers. They were losing
customers to streaming services because who wants to be shackled
(22:09):
to a satellite dish to get your content? And for
a while, I know DirecTV was experimenting with a streaming option,
and then they realized, well, why don't we just go
streaming the whole way? And so they figured out they
caught up to the rest of us, and now they've
this is what they said, quote, we built this as
an alternative we know that eighty percent of people prefer
(22:31):
not to push put the dish on the side of
their house.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yes, what, I think that was supposed to be some
kind of fancy status symbol.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It was in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Oh yeah, but now it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I can literally look at every one of my channels
on my phone, on my tablet, on a TV, I
can look at it on my phone and.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Cast it to my TV. I don't need a saddlle light.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And obviously when you know it starts raining or there's
a thunderstorm, it interferes with the satellite signal.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It was so far behind, I'm.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Really surprised it took Direct TV this long to get with.
We always talk about how companies are slow to evolve.
You can talk about like the Thomas math guye. They
couldn't figure out that GPS was coming. You could talk
about Motorola phones. They couldn't get with smartphones. They couldn't
keep up with their own industry. Direct TV couldn't keep
up with its own industry. Streaming is not new, and
(23:31):
everyone was leaving for streaming on some level. On some level,
maybe you didn't have live TV like you Mark Ronnert,
but you had different streaming services.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
If you're case in the neighborhood to decide which homes
to rob, what are you going to do now? If
people don't have the satellite dishes up.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well you have to know that they have a satellite
dish up. They're probably way behind the time. They don't
have a smart TV. Yeah, it's upside down now.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, you want to avoid the ones with the satellite dishes, right,
they're to have a rolex for you to steal.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But you're right.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Back in the day, it was a status almost like oh,
direct TV because everyone knew that was premium. You're paying
more money than the other cable companies. No, we all
have cable, we have satellite. And remember Direct TV had
that very cool ad campaign. It's like, don't be a
so and so. You know you'd have like a Peyton
Manning and someone else. You know, Peyton Manning was cool,
(24:24):
Cable wasn't cool, and they'd had that long.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I have to look up the ad. Was it like
Dane Cook who was the uncool.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yeah, I can't remember, but I'm saying it was like,
you know, satellite is cool. Cable's uncool, and it's like, no,
you are not cool. None of it is cool. It's
they were just behind the times and they didn't realize
that the world had moved on to streaming a long
time ago. And it's funny now they want to rebrand
(24:50):
and reposition itself as a streaming entity when the horse
has already left the barn. Thank you, you owe me
some thanks for this direct TV. I tried to tell
you you back in the late nineties, early two thousands,
but you didn't want to listen.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
You did not want to listen. You're welcome though.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
It's later with Mo Kelly Kfi AM six forty one
Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And when we come
back with I'll tell you about Captain EO. If you're
an Angelino, if you're from southern California, you remember seeing
Captain EO that video. I'll say, it's not really a ride,
but it's an experience that they had at Disneyland. I
loved it. I was sad when they took it away,
(25:29):
and I think they took it away. Well, actually I
know they took it away in part because of some
of the issues surrounding Michael Jackson when it was most
problematic awkward. Yeah, you have that juxtaposition of Michael Jackson
his court issues in Disneyland. Captain EO had to go, well,
we have an update and it's a Star Wars update.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Believe it or not. That's next.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Then, depending on your age, you may not remember Captain EO,
which was an attraction at Disneyland. It was a seventeen
minute movie and Captain EO Michael Jackson's character. He is
traveling through the galaxy to transform the Supreme Leader, who
was played by Angelica Houston if I remember correctly, back
to her true self and as a result, save the galaxy.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
This is a little bit of Captain EO.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's a seventeen minute movie.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
Ooh word, Okay, I'm told you I'd find her any
fide Africa.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
You're backed my world with your presence.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The other is it to.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Cast cat.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You let it trust and for him.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
One hundred years.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I've thought.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
In my deepest stench.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Your Highness, my loyal companions, and I accept these punishments.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
We do, of course, do you yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You have come here uninvited and unannounced, so then we
will go send me into your.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
You get it?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Why have you come to bring a gift to your
Highness to someone as beautiful as you. He's not all
that intimidating being me beautiful, very beautiful with seeing your Highness,
but without a key to unlock it.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And that is my gift to you.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Let me see get it on his shoulder, Highness.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
On his shoulder is a little fuzzy character and his
name is Fuzzball. It's the titular character in that he's
real instrumental in saving Captain EO and saving the universe.
But in the recently released trailer by Disney at the
d twenty three Festival, there is a new show coming
(28:20):
out called Skeleton Crew, which is in the Star Wars universe,
and Fuzzball, who was in Captain EO is in Skeleton Crew,
which makes everything which happens in Skeleton Crew cannon And
for all the people who like connectivity, Michael Jackson is
(28:40):
a part of Star Wars.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It was funky. They had pop blocking, Great Dante, the
classic moves of Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was very cool back in the late eighties nineteen
nineties and then you know it all fell apart when
Michael's career fell apart because of his other stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You probably want to keep him away from the Kid
in the Phantom Menace, right. Oh yeah, Like I'm the
jerk for bringing this up as opposed to the people
who did it and covered it up.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Look, I'm just talking about Captain Neo.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I'm just talking about why it was at Disneyland and
then it was removed from Disneyland.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
So, Michael Jackson, Captain EO is a part of Star
Wars canon. He's in the same universe as Hans Solo,
Luke Skywalker, Princess Leah, Chewbacca, Ya, Jake Lloyd.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Anakin, Skywalker, the Kid Yeah Verse.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Before we go to break, I was saying last segment
about direct TV and how direct TV had this. It
was funny this campaign talking about you want to be
cool like direct TV, not uncool like cable, and I
remember thinking at the time direct TV is not cool.
It's way behind the times. You may remember it.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Hi, I'm Peyton Manny and I have Direct TV.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
And I'm really high voice. Peyton Manning and I have
cable only.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Direct TV let you watch NFL Sunday ticket games live
on all your devices with cable.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I can't do that. It's like.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
I get to take all the games with me.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I sing with the four tunesmen.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
This song.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Don't be like this me. You get an NFL Sunday
ticket only on direct TV, Call one eight hundred direct TV.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It was it wasn't cool then it wasn't cool.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
It was a funny commercial, but the whole idea of
direct TV being cool, It's like, don't you see where
all this is going?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No one wants to pay two hundred dollars just to
have satellite.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, but didn't you most seek to emulate Peyton Manning
when you were young. Wasn't here role model of yours?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
He was actually during the prime of his career. He
was well into my adulthood. He's younger than me. I say,
oh oops, not Archie Manning.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
This is Peyton. Well hard to keep track, what do
you want? I think he's like mid forties now something
like that. Oh way younger? Oh yeah, yeah, thank you, Mark.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's later with Mokelly can if I am six forty,
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