April 25, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the rich history of Wally Amos, founder of the iconic cookie company ‘Famous Amos,’ and plans for the 50th anniversary block party celebration taking place Saturday, May 3, in Hollywood Blvd…PLUS – Thoughts on the Toys ‘R’ Us live-action movie in the works AND Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos’ claim that Netflix is “saving Hollywood” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm O Kelly.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We're live everywhere in iHeartRadio, app and YouTube. I don't
know if everybody remembers the person Famous Amos.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
People may remember the cookies.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
In fact, we have some Famous Amos cookies in our
kitchen here at iHeartMedia, and I would love eating them.
I mean, I've been eating them since I was a child.
But I don't know if people remember who he was
or how his story was so fantastic. You had a
guy who worked in the entertainment industry and he was
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just making cookies because he liked to make cookies, and
then it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Became a thing.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And I don't know if people know that he was
the first person to have a standalone cookie stead. Now
we could talk about Missus Fields and any number of
places now, but before there were any of them, you
had Famous Amos.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The Famous Amos Chocolchip Cookie Company started in nineteen seventy
five and had the first exclusive chocolate chip cookie store
in the world. From that cookie store, a whole industry
has been born. This is something that Wally started.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
The idea that led to this marketing success began at
a time when Wally Amos was a struggling Hollywood agent,
was making a name for himself with his delightful homemade cookies,
distributing them freely to the rave reviews of friends and clients.
Repeated suggestions that he turned his show business talents to
the marketing of the cookie persuaded Amos to seek out
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investors in what would be the first step towards stardom
for his most manageable talent, the chocolate chip cookie.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
My goal was just to open this store. It was
not to open another store. It was not even to
open wholesale businesses.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It was just to open a.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Store to sell chocice hip cookies.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 8 (02:10):
Make a living.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
In spite of Waally's modest expectations, the demand for famous
Amos chocolate chip cookies group mass production of the handmade
suites followed from the success of the first store, and
additional outlets became necessary to distribute the cookies to the
legions of eager eaters.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
I was doing things reluctantly, still holding to the vision
that all I want was this one store, you know,
And then ultimately I discovered that the company has the
life of its own. The cookie has a life of
its own, and for me to try to control that,
it would be the same as trying to control of
my children, trying to stunt their growth.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
Trying to say, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Will only be three feet tall.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The company Famous Amos is now going to mark the
fiftieth anniversary of what the man Famous Amos, Wally Amos
created with a celebration right smack dab in the middle
of Hollywood. They're going to pay tribute to the founder's
iconic legacy of cookies, community and culture. And they're going
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to host a block party Saturday, May third, from noon
to five pm in the outdoor space near the l
Capitan Theater, right on the middle of Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And here's the best part, Stephan, It's.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Free ninety nine, Free ninety nine, open to the public,
the free and those are the best block parties. Free
block party and open to the public. And afternoon of music, dancing, art,
and of course cookies. I might have to slide through
because that's another one of my guilty pleasures, chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Free cookies. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I said the event is free, free, I'm quite sure
they're probably passing out free because I don't know if
they're going to make you buy cookies.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
I mean I would, but I'm just saying that it's
going to be a hell of a block party. If
you given away free Famous, am away free Famous, that's
gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, that's a party.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, I might have to roll through h.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I like this.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But it's also in concert with what Wally Amos used
to do back in the nineteen seventies and eighties, and
he would do block parties. That's a part of how
he would just celebrate as far as being in the industry,
and this was like an homage to him in that way.
There's also going to be a live mural painting. There's
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going to be a showcase of classic Lowriders reflecting nineteen
seventy style, live DJ sets and musical performances. Appearances by
professional breakdancers and double dutch jumpers, a pop up roller
skating rink, vintage cookie trucks. Here we go offering free
cookie samples, they said, samples samples, samples like you get
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a whole ten of cookies, and limited edition merchandise celebrating
the brand's golden milestone of fifty years. And here's why
it's connected to Hollywood. We heard about that first store
it got started at on Sunset Boulevard back in nineteen
seventy five.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I love a good block party, I really do.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
I think in my career being part of the launch
of what is now one of Southern California's largest block parties,
being the Taste of Soul. I was there at the
beginning the inaugural Taste of Soul and we launched that
event within Station one hundred point three of the bat. Actually,
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we had just turned into V one hundred because we
couldn't do summer jaming anymore, so we said, let's do
something else. V one hundred launched the Taste of Soul
and that was a block party that was humugus.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So this for me, that ultra condition of a block party.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
It's such a beautiful, beautiful coming together.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's interesting you say old tradition, because it was something
that was very big in the seventies and eighties. Culturally,
it was very big in the African American community, and
it was very big on the East coast, less so
on the West Coast. Each year when I would go
back to Detroit for summer or you know, FAMI reunion
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or something. Somebody was having a block party where they
were just cording off the streets so no cars were
driving up and down. You'd have a barbecue, people just
walking through. Kids could safely ride their bikes in the street,
and it was an all day party.
Speaker 10 (06:41):
But it sounds like this cookie thing. They're going to
be kind of tight with the actual cookies. I don't
want a cookie specimen. I want some actual cookies.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, they're only promising samples, kind of like when you
walk through them all and get a sample.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Of Chick fil A. Unacceptable. You have the little toothpick
and just get the little piece of chicken.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Nuts about it, Mark, You just have to get back
in line multiple times. I mean, they're gonna know what
you're coming for us. You can't be slick another sample police, Yeah,
this is on them. They need to hand out actual
whole cookies, not like a cookie sliver.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The event is free, you have no lake to stand on.
It's free. They don't have to do anything for you.
They don't even have to give you a sample to
be told. Why would you go otherwise to celebrate famous
and celebrate cookies. Yeah, it doesn't mean that you're entitled.
Your privilege is showing. If I show up to a
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cookie event, there better be cookies. Don't stiff me on
the cookies. If that's the whole Did you see Mark
runnerd just sort of just glide on by that. He
just let that go on by. I'm sorry we talked.
He didn't want to address that. I know what the chat.
They caught that, Yeah, they caught that. Think oh yeah
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they caught that. His half black side said nope, nope, no,
not today. When we come back to Walla is going
to help us out and explain how this Toys r.
Russ live action movie is supposed to work. It's in
the works right now. But when it comes to this
big street, how is that supposed to work? How does
the toy store have a movie?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Is it about the founding of Toys r Uss, like
you know they had the founder of McDonald's that movie,
or is it like do they have actual characters in.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
The movie based on Toys r Uss toys? Also the
flaming hot, the Cheetos flaming hot. That's true. This is
do we know you beat me there? Foods do we know.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Is it about Toys r Russ or is it like
a fictionalized account where the Toys.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Russ turns into the story Toys r Us Studios, which
is the company, Yes, Toys Russ Studios, Yes, is bringing
the magic of America's favorite toy store to the big
screen for young and old.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Look, we'll get into it. Okay, we'll get into a story. Okay,
it doesn't sound like it makes any sense with taller.
Sharp's to help us with it. Do they get cookies?
He's got a one track of mind. Let's just call
a callback. Yeah, he thinks he's funny. Ky if IMC
forty live everywhere die Heart Radio app and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
KFI.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Mister Kelly, We're live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app.
Growing up, I was not really a Toys r Rus kid.
I was an Fao Schwartz kid. I was a KB
Toys kid Mark Ronnert. Yes, I had standards, Okay, Fao
Schwartz was a little bit more pricey than the other
toy stores.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So you were one of the rich kids that I
used to know. No, No, No, here's the story. My
I'm gonna let that slide.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
My mother's mother lived in Detroit and Fao Schwartz had
a big store in Detroit in the Renaissance Center. If
you say, well, what's the Renaissance Center, it's a building
looks just like the bottom venture.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
But I did another child ever knock out your monocle?
Why is Dave laughing in the hall?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Why did I hear our video technical director laughing down
the hall?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He was trying to picture you.
Speaker 10 (10:15):
He was trying to picture you getting dragged around by
your ass guy. He was really laughing at that last one. Man,
I just want to talk to a YouTube audience. See
what the bs I put up with on a daily basis. Yeah,
that'll sympathize these mother fathers don't care about me. I'll
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shut this whole place down.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Shoot program Palican bait. Anyhow what was I talking about?
Nobody knows. Yes, Detroit. My family, we go to Detroit.
My mother's mother lived in Detroit. We go to the
Renaissance Center. They had a big Fao Schwartz toy store there.
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Fao Schwartz was a high end toy store and I
think it was also in.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Uh Big.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
It was an Fao Schwartz store in Big, the movie
Big with Tom Hanks. It's one of the pre excuse
me it was. It was one of the premiere toy stores.
I happened to like it more than Toys r Us.
Toys r Us was basically low rent. Okay, I'm sorry,
I got standards. I take that person. I got standards.
That's rock went. Some people don't mind, you know, rolling
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around in a bucket. I liked it, you know, I
got man. Toilette was not only a Toys r Us kid,
he was a Toys r rust man as an employee.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
That is true.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So Toys r Us. There's a live action movie in
the works, and the film, which is in early development,
aims to capture the childhood wonder in a modern, fast
paced adventure that taps into the Toys r US brands
relevance across this more than seventy years in the toy industry,
Toys are Us had gone away and then it came back,
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and then it went away and it came back.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's connected to Bacy somehow.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Last I remember what's going on on Toys r Us
now and why is it they think that they can
use this as a vehicle to further bring back the brand.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, when you have.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
Properties like Barbie that took off like a bottle rocket,
what they are looking at is capturing that seventy plus
year dedication to the greatest toy store to ever be built.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Except for Schwartz.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
No, only only the rich and powerful went to Fao Schwartz.
Everyone else the US Like, yes, we went to Toys
r US, you know, while we were on the bread line.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I guess I'm trying to face that out.
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, you spent your plasma check at Toys r
US right, I.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Mean, like wow, Like Toys r US is where we
all went as kids and had fun trying out the
toys and this, that and the other world Fao Schwartz.
They had security walking around saying things like what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, wait for that. We got to ask the chat.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
If you're on the YouTube live stream, here is the
question for the chat, which did you prefer Toys r US,
KB toys or Fao Schwartz Toys r US Toys conversation
fo Swarts.
Speaker 10 (13:30):
Look, we need at least three choices, sticks and mud.
That's all we had. I don't like the idea of
all these movies just being turned into essentially advertisements. Well
I agree, Hey, look it's what they're doing.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
Okay, they have the IP address and Toys r US
Studios is going to capture the magic of the toy
store and combine elements of say like Jumanji meets Barbie.
Imagine a kid spending a night or not Jumanji, but
maybe even not at the museum. A kid spends the
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night in a Toys r Us and all the toys
come to life, and it's a magical adventure. I mean,
the story rights itself. I remember working overnight stocking the shelves.
I remember working Christmas, even at Christmas even Mania.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Did you steal some toys? Hell? No, I just want
to check record.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I mean you've done some stuff when you were at
Taco Bell. Yes.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
While I was working at Toys r US, I was
a stellar employee. I was a star employee. I still
have my badge and my orange razor for I have
my toys. Sure, really yeah I do. I still have
all that because seriously, I loved working at Toys r US.
I would go there sometimes at my time off days
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office stuff and just walk the aisles. So I could
you know see what came in on the day that
I was off, so that when customers came in, I
would be up to date on everything, on everything. I
didn't matter what you were looking for, I knew where
it was, I knew how to help you find it.
And that's why I think that this here, this here
is going to capture that. It's going to remind people
why just shopping online is not always equitable or the
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same as going into a store trying out things with
our lego bind get along a bike and seeing if
the kid really likes the bike. You can't do that online.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You know what you can't do online? You can do
click click click, click click click. It's not the same
click feeling.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
It's it's almost Toys r US for toy collectors and
kids is almost like comic shops for adults. You want
to go into the comic You know, they're not all
going out of business.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
There's plenty of that.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Comic shops that are thriving, and those that are thriving,
they have individuals there who want to fill the pages.
They don't want to just go online and use an
app to read the books. There are still those of
us who want the physical thing. And that is what
something like Toys r Us does. It inspires kids to
dream again, pairs, to remember what it was like to
go shopping, you know, late at night on Christmas, even
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let your kids going and Toys r Us And that
was nineteen seventy five and it's not it's not.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Nineteen seventy five. Tula, were you there for the Tickle
me Elmo? Crazy? Yes?
Speaker 9 (16:12):
Was it like as crazy as that? You saw the
news Tickle me Elmo held in comparison to pie Face. Okay,
pie Face?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What face? It is?
Speaker 9 (16:22):
It is a game where literally you put whipped cream
on a on a exploding pie train. It would just
like slap you in the face if you didn't get
the question right.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, it was? It was sell that today? Could they No,
they're still so they still? Yeah? It was. It was.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was literally lawsuit waiting to happen. No, it was
literally a specula type in it. If you don't get
it ready, just it just washed you some some whip
cream in your face.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's fun times. It's fun time. You're saying, I need
to go into the store to buy that. I can't
get that on Amazon. Why why are you really is that?
Speaker 9 (16:57):
Why are you just you're going to you know, Okay, look, hey,
I'm sorry that they had.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, I don't think people want to fail Schwartz.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
I don't think people want to pay to go to
a movie that's nothing but an advertisement. When you watch
Last Tango in Paris, did you feel like it was
an advertisement for butter? That's a deep cut and you're
gonna get disgusted when you realize someone should have gone
to jail for that. Yes, was that Marlon Brando?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, it was. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:26):
Yeah, what I've read that was an actual sexual assault. Okay,
I mean I didn't want to get that far into it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, you literally just opened that wide open mark. You
just kind of walked on in. Yeah. Right, Well between
you know, getting the pie in the face and you.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
See what you're doing. I love it. You can't.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Yes, you were saying, no, no, I just you Walla
really knows how to have fun between the pie and
the face game and and paying to sit through.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
A two hour toys r Us had bring back toys Russ. Dammit,
I can't say that. I can't be proud of toys
r Uss.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
No, I Heart has counseling available to you, I think
as an employee, probably for free.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
I mean you're there's literally nothing wrong. I know, Mark,
I know you're an adult. Okay, maybe you do. Not
you then grow up with toys?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know you had? That's a sketchy Now did you
have did you have any toys growing up? Mark? You
always tell us about your very complicated upbringing.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
It was.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
It was a little sparse, and I was never allowed
to go to a toys r us. I always wanted
to do.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
You see now, look, Mark is going to be in
theater's cry. I let it go because I am now
a functional adult male. I don't any longer feel than that.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Mark. Seriously, Mark, you need toys russ friend, Mark, you
want me to take you to FAO sports? No, I
think he wants to go to towards Us. I think
he needs to get that memory rus Kid. Someone played
the song for him. I don't want to grow up.
I'm a toys or rusk kid. I don't need this.
Twala needs this. I w a hug. I worked there.
(19:04):
I definitely do not need a hug. I'm coming to
hug you.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Downs the aggression on your part, Mark, Yes you are,
that's that's well.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You got that right. I do not need a hug.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
I don't need to toys r us AD and if
I want to buy up the childhood that I never had,
that's what Ebays for.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
Toys got the best for So much as you trying
to warn up, you couldn't be a charge.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Ruskin looking.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Charge can if I am six forty It's Later with
mo Kelly. We have a Netflix update and approves. Everything
we've ever said on this show was right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from KFI.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and the YouTube
and YouTube chat is out of control. I need to
explain something very quickly to the people who are in
the YouTube chat. There's a thing called a toy store,
and there's a thing called a toy section.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We were talking about toy stores.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
KB is a toy store, Toys r Us toy store,
Fao Schwartz toy store.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Series is not a toy store. Jim Co is not
a toy store. At best.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You had a toy section a rope. Okay, that's not
a toy store. Gosh, you's some broke fools, said fed Co.
They were shouting out sears toy sections. Okay, you need
to tighten up your toy game. Let me talk about
Netflix CEO Ted Surrandos. He was sitting down for a
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time one hundred celebration interview and he was asked basically
about the state of movies and you know, streaming and
where everything was going. And if you listen to this
what I'm getting ready to play you, it sounds like
either we were channeling him or he was channeling us,
because he was basically saying everything that we had been
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saying about the future of the movie industry.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Check this out.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
The box office is down, the LA film business is shaky,
people are out of work, your competitors market share is sinking.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
But Netflix business is thriving. Have you destroyed Hollywood? Now
we're saving Hollywood. You're saving Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Look, what's the big difference of everything you just listened
there is that Netflix is a very consumer focused company.
We really do care that we deliver the program into
you in a way you want to watch it, that
it's programming that you love and desire, so we don't let,
you know, a lot of other outside forces get in
the way of that. So an example I think is
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that you mentioned the box office being down, just for example,
what does that say?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
What is the consumer trying to tell us that they'd
like to watch movies at home?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Thank you?
Speaker 8 (22:03):
And the studios and the and the theaters are you know,
duking it out over trying to preserve this forty five
day window that is completely out of step with the
consumer experience loving a movie. But you don't just work
with consumers.
Speaker 12 (22:14):
You work with creators, and sometimes they want to put
their films in movie theaters. Yeah, Daniel Craig wants Knives
Out three in theaters. Credit Gerwig convince you to release
her upcoming Narnia movie in theaters.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
When do you decide just to give in to someone?
Look at that we have these bespoke releases.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
Basically for a movie to come out that we'll try
to you know, we have to do some qualification for
the oscars, so they have to run for a little bit.
It helps with the press cycle a little bit because
the press likes to talk about movies and theaters too.
But you know, I try to encourage them every director
we work with to focus on the consumer, focus on
the fans. Make a movie that they love and they
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will reward you and that's that. But in general, I
also realized that we're in a period of transition. Folks
grew up thinking, I want want to make movies on
a gigantic screen and have strangers watch them and play
for the theme in the theaters for two months and
people cry and sold out shows.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
It just doesn't happen very much. Outdated, it's good outdated.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
So when someone gets out to the Oscars and says,
we need to make movies for a movie theaters for
the communal experience, that's just an outloaded idea.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
I believe it is an outloaded ated for most people,
not for everybody. There are people. If you're fortunate enough.
Speaker 13 (23:22):
To live in Manhattan and you can walk to Multiplex
and see a movie that's fantastic, most of the country cannot.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't think there's anything else we need to say.
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's telling you where the industry is going and how you,
individually or maybe just you and your friends may love
the communal experience of watching a movie, but that's not
the majority anymore. We like to watch movies at home.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Is it as great and I put that in their quotes,
great as seeing a blockbuster in a theater of one
hundred and fifty people on imax screen, Probably not. But
if I don't have to worry about getting in a
fight with people, I don't have to worry about people
kicking the back of my chair, I don't have to
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worry about waiting in line because they only for concessions,
because they only have one person behind the counter who's
taken forever to get everybody's food.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'll stay by ass at home, thank you very much.
We're gonna get your nuggets though. You can get those
at the store, you really can, you really a true?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just about all the movie theater food is available in stores, obviously,
all the candy, obviously, the hot dogs, obviously, the chicken fingers.
All that kind of stuff is available. And what I
mean by that is the actual exact same food. It
may not be branded, is that. But all these places
get their food from, like Cisco Foods, whatever, the same
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vendors of food. It's not different. So I don't know
what the movie theater offers me. It used to be
they offered me a film that I could not see
anywhere else but in theaters.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'll wait two.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Weeks, you know, But see the thing about it is
is it's beyond just just about the films itself. It's
the creature comforts that home offers that the theater does not.
For something like Sinners, Yes, it was great seeing it
on the big screen. I absolutely love watching on the
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big screen. I want to see it again in IMAX
so I can see it as it's meant to be seen.
All that, right, But something like Mickey seventeen, Hell no, man,
that was meant to watch it at home so I
can pause it and be like, I'll come back to this.
I'm gonna go warm something up, not me having to
get there, go and try to get something before the
film shows, go in and.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Sit through this whole damn thing, losing my mind. And no,
but here's the problem. A lot of the.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
New concept movies, the original movies, they're not event movies.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, if it's not an event movie, something that I
feel that I gotta see, or people are talking about
Mickey seventeen, Novacaine, any number of movies, No, I'm just
gonna wait and it may be a great movie, but
it's not gonna be worth me taking the risk of
dealing with the theater experience, dealing with it theater experience
(26:16):
and a bad movie and a bad experience overall, the
gas wasted.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
No, I'll just wait.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'll just be patient and wait for a mediocre movie
and watch it at home and maybe it will pleasantly
surprise me.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
We'll catch up with George Norry and on my final
thought regarding Shannon Sharp. If you don't know the latest,
it got really bad for Shannon Sharp today. It's gonna
get worse. We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Can't I mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We're live on YouTube right now, still at mister Mokelly
and the iHeartRadio app. Coast to Coast AM with George Norry,
who joins me right now, Sir.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Mister Kelly, how you been.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I'm been doing well, doing well. Thank you for asking.
How about yourself? Great?
Speaker 7 (27:06):
We got a great show tonight. We're going to talk
about the wonders of the universe, and then later on
our investigative reporter Cheryl Jones joins us to talk about
strange and unusual things on Coast to Coast.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What do you consider strange and unusual, George, at this
point in your career.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Just about everything.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well still even still even still, all right, I'll be
tuning in see.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right before we get out of here. I said
in the first.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Segment that I was going to use Shannon Sharp as
part of my final thought in this last segment. And
I want to take my time with this one because
there is a lesson in here for somebody, even though
you may not be as wealthy as Shannon Sharp, or
even as old as Shannon Sharp for that matter, there's
a lesson in here as far as how decisions seemingly
(27:56):
insignificant can have an outsized impact on your life. And
we told you about some of the allegations and accusations
facing prominent sports personality and podcaster Shannon Sharp, and they
range from sexual assault to forcible rape. And to be clear,
this is a civil lawsuit, not a criminal one or
(28:18):
criminal charges, so this will be an issue of liability,
not a criminal judgment. But also that means the standards
of proof are remarkably different. In a criminal proceeding, the
standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt, we're all
familiar with that. But in a civil proceeding, the standard
of proof required is a preponderance of evidence. It's much
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much lower threshold, meaning it's just about who has a
little bit more evidence than the other. The preponderance of
evidence on which side does it fall that determines whether
someone is found liable or not liable. Put another way,
it's much more likely that this will not go the
way that Shannon Sharp would want it to go, as
(29:03):
opposed to if there were charges. But speaking of charges,
depending on what happens in discovery for this lawsuit, there's
nothing to say that there won't be enough evidence for
the DA to decide to step in and file charges
because the lawsuit is very, very exact and explicit regarding
(29:23):
detailed alleged rape.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So that's also a possibility.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
In other words, it can get much worse before it
gets better for Shannon Sharp. And I mentioned all this
because Shannon Sharp announced today via a written statement on
social media that he is stepping back and taking a
leave from ESPN, one of his streams of income.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't need to read it. It's a boilerplate.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He denies all the allegations, says he'll be vindicted, vindicated
thanks his supporters, YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You've all read them before. You've heard them before. It's boilerplate.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But this final thought is specifically for young people, and
I think of young people in their teens or twenties.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You need to hear this more than anyone else.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You need to know that just because you do something
off the clock or not at your job, you can
still ruin your life. You can still ruin your professional life,
you can still make it difficult for you for the
rest of your life. You can still get your contract voided,
you can still destroy everything you worked for. And you
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may not know this, but Shannon Sharp was eyeing a
one hundred million dollar deal connected to his club Shayshay podcast,
one hundred million dollars that was just reported earlier this week.
In fact, one day before this lawsuit was filed. Don't
get me wrong, Shannon Sharp was already a multi millionaire.
It's not about whether he's going to be destitute. But
(30:48):
one hundred million dollar deals don't come around twice if
you fumble away the first one, asked Jonathan Majors. A
common refrain by defenders of Sharp is that, well, what's
wrong with what he did?
Speaker 8 (31:02):
It?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Was two consenting adults. Well, that's actually up for debate
and the whole point of the lawsuit. But the lawsuit,
let's put that aside for a second. Let's just say
Shannon Sharp did not engage in any level of sexual assault.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And again this is specifically for young people. Just because
something is legal, i e.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Consenting adults engaging in sects, it does not mean that
it is defensible.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Did y'all get that?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Just because something is legal young people, it does not
mean it is defensible. And it does not mean that
there aren't consequences to the person who happens to be
a public figure. Most entertainment personalities, and this includes me.
I don't like to think of myself as a public figure,
(31:54):
but it does include me. Most entertainment personalities have contracts
with infamy clauses, some call them morals clauses, meaning you
don't even have to get arrested. You don't have to
even get charged with a crime or convicted of one.
You can just do something which embarrasses your employer. You know,
end up in a TikTok video harassing someone. Be a
(32:15):
Karen Be part of a protest at the Capitol on
January sixth. It could be big, or it could be
really really small, But if it is embarrassing to your
employer or brings infamy to your employer, you can be
gone immediately immediately. So don't think, well, whatever I do
on social media is my business. That's private now. Uh no, no, no,
(32:39):
don't make that mistake. Far too many people seem to
think that what you do on your quo quote unquote
own time has no bearing on your job.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No, you are always an ambassador for your job. Hear me,
young folks.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You are always an ambassador for your job, regardless of
being at will or under contract. And here's the takeaway.
The lesson of the Shannon Sharp is that this was
of his own doing. Regardless of how this lawsuit turns out,
he is not a victim. Whereas there is nothing inherently
(33:12):
illegal about a fifty six year old band dating a
nineteen year old OnlyFans model, there's still some discussion of
when they actually met, when they actually started quote unquote dating,
and whether there was actual an exchange of money in
this relationship while they were dating. Lawsuit notwithstanding, But when
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you exhibit horrendous judgment, you're Shannon Sharp. You're a multimillionnaire.
You're looking at one hundred million dollar deal. Why you
think someone who's nineteen years old at the time you
allegedly started dating has as much to lose as you,
the fifty six year old with the public figure, public
(33:56):
personality and the one hundred million dollar deal on the table.
Why you would think that dating her is in any
way keeping your life and livelihood safe. Just means that
you don't deserve that hundred million dollar deal at all,
because you fumbled the bag, because you were thinking with
(34:20):
the wrong head. Young people, it can happen to you.
For k if I am six forty, I'm Mo Kelly.
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I'm O Kelly.
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We're live everywhere in iHeartRadio, app and YouTube. I don't
know if everybody remembers the person Famous Amos.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
People may remember the cookies.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
In fact, we have some Famous Amos cookies in our
kitchen here at iHeartMedia, and I would love eating them.
I mean, I've been eating them since I was a child.
But I don't know if people remember who he was
or how his story was so fantastic. You had a
guy who worked in the entertainment industry and he was
(00:49):
just making cookies because he liked to make cookies, and
then it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Became a thing.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
And I don't know if people know that he was
the first person to have a standalone cookie stead. Now
we could talk about Missus Fields and any number of
places now, but before there were any of them, you
had Famous Amos.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
The Famous Amos Chocolchip Cookie Company started in nineteen seventy
five and had the first exclusive chocolate chip cookie store
in the world. From that cookie store, a whole industry
has been born. This is something that Wally started.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
The idea that led to this marketing success began at
a time when Wally Amos was a struggling Hollywood agent,
was making a name for himself with his delightful homemade cookies,
distributing them freely to the rave reviews of friends and clients.
Repeated suggestions that he turned his show business talents to
the marketing of the cookie persuaded Amos to seek out
(01:51):
investors in what would be the first step towards stardom
for his most manageable talent, the chocolate chip cookie.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
My goal was just to open this store. It was
not to open another store. It was not even to
open wholesale businesses.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It was just to open a.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Store to sell chocice hip cookies.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
I just wanted to.
Speaker 8 (02:10):
Make a living.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
In spite of Waally's modest expectations, the demand for famous
Amos chocolate chip cookies group mass production of the handmade
suites followed from the success of the first store, and
additional outlets became necessary to distribute the cookies to the
legions of eager eaters.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
I was doing things reluctantly, still holding to the vision
that all I want was this one store, you know,
And then ultimately I discovered that the company has the
life of its own. The cookie has a life of
its own, and for me to try to control that,
it would be the same as trying to control of
my children, trying to stunt their growth.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
Trying to say, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Will only be three feet tall.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
The company Famous Amos is now going to mark the
fiftieth anniversary of what the man Famous Amos, Wally Amos
created with a celebration right smack dab in the middle
of Hollywood. They're going to pay tribute to the founder's
iconic legacy of cookies, community and culture. And they're going
(03:14):
to host a block party Saturday, May third, from noon
to five pm in the outdoor space near the l
Capitan Theater, right on the middle of Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And here's the best part, Stephan, It's.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Free ninety nine, Free ninety nine, open to the public,
the free and those are the best block parties. Free
block party and open to the public. And afternoon of music, dancing, art,
and of course cookies. I might have to slide through
because that's another one of my guilty pleasures, chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Free cookies. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I said the event is free, free, I'm quite sure
they're probably passing out free because I don't know if
they're going to make you buy cookies.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
I mean I would, but I'm just saying that it's
going to be a hell of a block party. If
you given away free Famous, am away free Famous, that's
gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, that's a party.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, I might have to roll through h.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I like this.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But it's also in concert with what Wally Amos used
to do back in the nineteen seventies and eighties, and
he would do block parties. That's a part of how
he would just celebrate as far as being in the industry,
and this was like an homage to him in that way.
There's also going to be a live mural painting. There's
(04:36):
going to be a showcase of classic Lowriders reflecting nineteen
seventy style, live DJ sets and musical performances. Appearances by
professional breakdancers and double dutch jumpers, a pop up roller
skating rink, vintage cookie trucks. Here we go offering free
cookie samples, they said, samples samples, samples like you get
(05:00):
a whole ten of cookies, and limited edition merchandise celebrating
the brand's golden milestone of fifty years. And here's why
it's connected to Hollywood. We heard about that first store
it got started at on Sunset Boulevard back in nineteen
seventy five.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I love a good block party, I really do.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
I think in my career being part of the launch
of what is now one of Southern California's largest block parties,
being the Taste of Soul. I was there at the
beginning the inaugural Taste of Soul and we launched that
event within Station one hundred point three of the bat. Actually,
(05:45):
we had just turned into V one hundred because we
couldn't do summer jaming anymore, so we said, let's do
something else. V one hundred launched the Taste of Soul
and that was a block party that was humugus.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So this for me, that ultra condition of a block party.
Speaker 9 (06:02):
It's such a beautiful, beautiful coming together.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's interesting you say old tradition, because it was something
that was very big in the seventies and eighties. Culturally,
it was very big in the African American community, and
it was very big on the East coast, less so
on the West Coast. Each year when I would go
back to Detroit for summer or you know, FAMI reunion
(06:25):
or something. Somebody was having a block party where they
were just cording off the streets so no cars were
driving up and down. You'd have a barbecue, people just
walking through. Kids could safely ride their bikes in the street,
and it was an all day party.
Speaker 10 (06:41):
But it sounds like this cookie thing. They're going to
be kind of tight with the actual cookies. I don't
want a cookie specimen. I want some actual cookies.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, they're only promising samples, kind of like when you
walk through them all and get a sample.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Of Chick fil A. Unacceptable. You have the little toothpick
and just get the little piece of chicken.
Speaker 9 (06:57):
Nuts about it, Mark, You just have to get back
in line multiple times. I mean, they're gonna know what
you're coming for us. You can't be slick another sample police, Yeah,
this is on them. They need to hand out actual
whole cookies, not like a cookie sliver.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
The event is free, you have no lake to stand on.
It's free. They don't have to do anything for you.
They don't even have to give you a sample to
be told. Why would you go otherwise to celebrate famous
and celebrate cookies. Yeah, it doesn't mean that you're entitled.
Your privilege is showing. If I show up to a
(07:31):
cookie event, there better be cookies. Don't stiff me on
the cookies. If that's the whole Did you see Mark
runnerd just sort of just glide on by that. He
just let that go on by. I'm sorry we talked.
He didn't want to address that. I know what the chat.
They caught that, Yeah, they caught that. Think oh yeah
(07:53):
they caught that. His half black side said nope, nope, no,
not today. When we come back to Walla is going
to help us out and explain how this Toys r.
Russ live action movie is supposed to work. It's in
the works right now. But when it comes to this
big street, how is that supposed to work? How does
the toy store have a movie?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Is it about the founding of Toys r Uss, like
you know they had the founder of McDonald's that movie,
or is it like do they have actual characters in.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
The movie based on Toys r Uss toys? Also the
flaming hot, the Cheetos flaming hot. That's true. This is
do we know you beat me there? Foods do we know.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Is it about Toys r Russ or is it like
a fictionalized account where the Toys.
Speaker 9 (08:42):
Russ turns into the story Toys r Us Studios, which
is the company, Yes, Toys Russ Studios, Yes, is bringing
the magic of America's favorite toy store to the big
screen for young and old.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Look, we'll get into it. Okay, we'll get into a story. Okay,
it doesn't sound like it makes any sense with taller.
Sharp's to help us with it. Do they get cookies?
He's got a one track of mind. Let's just call
a callback. Yeah, he thinks he's funny. Ky if IMC
forty live everywhere die Heart Radio app and YouTube.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Mister Kelly, We're live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app.
Growing up, I was not really a Toys r Rus kid.
I was an Fao Schwartz kid. I was a KB
Toys kid Mark Ronnert. Yes, I had standards, Okay, Fao
Schwartz was a little bit more pricey than the other
toy stores.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So you were one of the rich kids that I
used to know. No, No, No, here's the story. My
I'm gonna let that slide.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
My mother's mother lived in Detroit and Fao Schwartz had
a big store in Detroit in the Renaissance Center. If
you say, well, what's the Renaissance Center, it's a building
looks just like the bottom venture.
Speaker 10 (10:00):
But I did another child ever knock out your monocle?
Why is Dave laughing in the hall?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Why did I hear our video technical director laughing down
the hall?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He was trying to picture you.
Speaker 10 (10:15):
He was trying to picture you getting dragged around by
your ass guy. He was really laughing at that last one. Man,
I just want to talk to a YouTube audience. See
what the bs I put up with on a daily basis. Yeah,
that'll sympathize these mother fathers don't care about me. I'll
(10:37):
shut this whole place down.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Shoot program Palican bait. Anyhow what was I talking about?
Nobody knows. Yes, Detroit. My family, we go to Detroit.
My mother's mother lived in Detroit. We go to the
Renaissance Center. They had a big Fao Schwartz toy store there.
(11:00):
Fao Schwartz was a high end toy store and I
think it was also in.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Uh Big.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
It was an Fao Schwartz store in Big, the movie
Big with Tom Hanks. It's one of the pre excuse
me it was. It was one of the premiere toy stores.
I happened to like it more than Toys r Us.
Toys r Us was basically low rent. Okay, I'm sorry,
I got standards. I take that person. I got standards.
That's rock went. Some people don't mind, you know, rolling
(11:31):
around in a bucket. I liked it, you know, I
got man. Toilette was not only a Toys r Us kid,
he was a Toys r rust man as an employee.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
That is true.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So Toys r Us. There's a live action movie in
the works, and the film, which is in early development,
aims to capture the childhood wonder in a modern, fast
paced adventure that taps into the Toys r US brands
relevance across this more than seventy years in the toy industry,
Toys are Us had gone away and then it came back,
(12:02):
and then it went away and it came back.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's connected to Bacy somehow.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Last I remember what's going on on Toys r Us
now and why is it they think that they can
use this as a vehicle to further bring back the brand.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, when you have.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
Properties like Barbie that took off like a bottle rocket,
what they are looking at is capturing that seventy plus
year dedication to the greatest toy store to ever be built.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Except for Schwartz.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
No, only only the rich and powerful went to Fao Schwartz.
Everyone else the US Like, yes, we went to Toys
r US, you know, while we were on the bread line.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I guess I'm trying to face that out.
Speaker 10 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah, you spent your plasma check at Toys r
US right, I.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Mean, like wow, Like Toys r US is where we
all went as kids and had fun trying out the
toys and this, that and the other world Fao Schwartz.
They had security walking around saying things like what are
you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Okay, wait for that. We got to ask the chat.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
If you're on the YouTube live stream, here is the
question for the chat, which did you prefer Toys r US,
KB toys or Fao Schwartz Toys r US Toys conversation
fo Swarts.
Speaker 10 (13:30):
Look, we need at least three choices, sticks and mud.
That's all we had. I don't like the idea of
all these movies just being turned into essentially advertisements. Well
I agree, Hey, look it's what they're doing.
Speaker 9 (13:42):
Okay, they have the IP address and Toys r US
Studios is going to capture the magic of the toy
store and combine elements of say like Jumanji meets Barbie.
Imagine a kid spending a night or not Jumanji, but
maybe even not at the museum. A kid spends the
(14:03):
night in a Toys r Us and all the toys
come to life, and it's a magical adventure. I mean,
the story rights itself. I remember working overnight stocking the shelves.
I remember working Christmas, even at Christmas even Mania.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Did you steal some toys? Hell? No, I just want
to check record.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I mean you've done some stuff when you were at
Taco Bell. Yes.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
While I was working at Toys r US, I was
a stellar employee. I was a star employee. I still
have my badge and my orange razor for I have
my toys. Sure, really yeah I do. I still have
all that because seriously, I loved working at Toys r US.
I would go there sometimes at my time off days
(14:48):
office stuff and just walk the aisles. So I could
you know see what came in on the day that
I was off, so that when customers came in, I
would be up to date on everything, on everything. I
didn't matter what you were looking for, I knew where
it was, I knew how to help you find it.
And that's why I think that this here, this here
is going to capture that. It's going to remind people
why just shopping online is not always equitable or the
(15:11):
same as going into a store trying out things with
our lego bind get along a bike and seeing if
the kid really likes the bike. You can't do that online.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
You know what you can't do online? You can do
click click click, click click click. It's not the same
click feeling.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
It's it's almost Toys r US for toy collectors and
kids is almost like comic shops for adults. You want
to go into the comic You know, they're not all
going out of business.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
There's plenty of that.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Comic shops that are thriving, and those that are thriving,
they have individuals there who want to fill the pages.
They don't want to just go online and use an
app to read the books. There are still those of
us who want the physical thing. And that is what
something like Toys r Us does. It inspires kids to
dream again, pairs, to remember what it was like to
go shopping, you know, late at night on Christmas, even
(16:02):
let your kids going and Toys r Us And that
was nineteen seventy five and it's not it's not.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Nineteen seventy five. Tula, were you there for the Tickle
me Elmo? Crazy? Yes?
Speaker 9 (16:12):
Was it like as crazy as that? You saw the
news Tickle me Elmo held in comparison to pie Face. Okay,
pie Face?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
What face? It is?
Speaker 9 (16:22):
It is a game where literally you put whipped cream
on a on a exploding pie train. It would just
like slap you in the face if you didn't get
the question right.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
What?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, it was? It was sell that today? Could they No,
they're still so they still? Yeah? It was. It was.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was literally lawsuit waiting to happen. No, it was
literally a specula type in it. If you don't get
it ready, just it just washed you some some whip
cream in your face.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
It's fun times. It's fun time. You're saying, I need
to go into the store to buy that. I can't
get that on Amazon. Why why are you really is that?
Speaker 9 (16:57):
Why are you just you're going to you know, Okay, look, hey,
I'm sorry that they had.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Well, I don't think people want to fail Schwartz.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
I don't think people want to pay to go to
a movie that's nothing but an advertisement. When you watch
Last Tango in Paris, did you feel like it was
an advertisement for butter? That's a deep cut and you're
gonna get disgusted when you realize someone should have gone
to jail for that. Yes, was that Marlon Brando?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yes, it was. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:26):
Yeah, what I've read that was an actual sexual assault. Okay,
I mean I didn't want to get that far into it.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Well, you literally just opened that wide open mark. You
just kind of walked on in. Yeah. Right, Well between
you know, getting the pie in the face and you.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
See what you're doing. I love it. You can't.
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Yes, you were saying, no, no, I just you Walla
really knows how to have fun between the pie and
the face game and and paying to sit through.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
A two hour toys r Us had bring back toys Russ. Dammit,
I can't say that. I can't be proud of toys
r Uss.
Speaker 10 (18:04):
No, I Heart has counseling available to you, I think
as an employee, probably for free.
Speaker 9 (18:13):
I mean you're there's literally nothing wrong. I know, Mark,
I know you're an adult. Okay, maybe you do. Not
you then grow up with toys?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You know you had? That's a sketchy Now did you
have did you have any toys growing up? Mark? You
always tell us about your very complicated upbringing.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
It was.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
It was a little sparse, and I was never allowed
to go to a toys r us. I always wanted
to do.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
You see now, look, Mark is going to be in
theater's cry. I let it go because I am now
a functional adult male. I don't any longer feel than that.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Mark. Seriously, Mark, you need toys russ friend, Mark, you
want me to take you to FAO sports? No, I
think he wants to go to towards Us. I think
he needs to get that memory rus Kid. Someone played
the song for him. I don't want to grow up.
I'm a toys or rusk kid. I don't need this.
Twala needs this. I w a hug. I worked there.
(19:04):
I definitely do not need a hug. I'm coming to
hug you.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Downs the aggression on your part, Mark, Yes you are,
that's that's well.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
You got that right. I do not need a hug.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
I don't need to toys r us AD and if
I want to buy up the childhood that I never had,
that's what Ebays for.
Speaker 11 (19:26):
Toys got the best for So much as you trying
to warn up, you couldn't be a charge.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Ruskin looking.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Charge can if I am six forty It's Later with
mo Kelly. We have a Netflix update and approves. Everything
we've ever said on this show was right.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from KFI.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, and the YouTube
and YouTube chat is out of control. I need to
explain something very quickly to the people who are in
the YouTube chat. There's a thing called a toy store,
and there's a thing called a toy section.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We were talking about toy stores.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
KB is a toy store, Toys r Us toy store,
Fao Schwartz toy store.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Series is not a toy store. Jim Co is not
a toy store. At best.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You had a toy section a rope. Okay, that's not
a toy store. Gosh, you's some broke fools, said fed Co.
They were shouting out sears toy sections. Okay, you need
to tighten up your toy game. Let me talk about
Netflix CEO Ted Surrandos. He was sitting down for a
(20:52):
time one hundred celebration interview and he was asked basically
about the state of movies and you know, streaming and
where everything was going. And if you listen to this
what I'm getting ready to play you, it sounds like
either we were channeling him or he was channeling us,
because he was basically saying everything that we had been
(21:14):
saying about the future of the movie industry.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Check this out.
Speaker 12 (21:18):
The box office is down, the LA film business is shaky,
people are out of work, your competitors market share is sinking.
Speaker 8 (21:25):
But Netflix business is thriving. Have you destroyed Hollywood? Now
we're saving Hollywood. You're saving Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Look, what's the big difference of everything you just listened
there is that Netflix is a very consumer focused company.
We really do care that we deliver the program into
you in a way you want to watch it, that
it's programming that you love and desire, so we don't let,
you know, a lot of other outside forces get in
the way of that. So an example I think is
(21:54):
that you mentioned the box office being down, just for example,
what does that say?
Speaker 8 (21:58):
What is the consumer trying to tell us that they'd
like to watch movies at home?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Thank you?
Speaker 8 (22:03):
And the studios and the and the theaters are you know,
duking it out over trying to preserve this forty five
day window that is completely out of step with the
consumer experience loving a movie. But you don't just work
with consumers.
Speaker 12 (22:14):
You work with creators, and sometimes they want to put
their films in movie theaters. Yeah, Daniel Craig wants Knives
Out three in theaters. Credit Gerwig convince you to release
her upcoming Narnia movie in theaters.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
When do you decide just to give in to someone?
Look at that we have these bespoke releases.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
Basically for a movie to come out that we'll try
to you know, we have to do some qualification for
the oscars, so they have to run for a little bit.
It helps with the press cycle a little bit because
the press likes to talk about movies and theaters too.
But you know, I try to encourage them every director
we work with to focus on the consumer, focus on
the fans. Make a movie that they love and they
(22:52):
will reward you and that's that. But in general, I
also realized that we're in a period of transition. Folks
grew up thinking, I want want to make movies on
a gigantic screen and have strangers watch them and play
for the theme in the theaters for two months and
people cry and sold out shows.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
It just doesn't happen very much. Outdated, it's good outdated.
Speaker 12 (23:11):
So when someone gets out to the Oscars and says,
we need to make movies for a movie theaters for
the communal experience, that's just an outloaded idea.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
I believe it is an outloaded ated for most people,
not for everybody. There are people. If you're fortunate enough.
Speaker 13 (23:22):
To live in Manhattan and you can walk to Multiplex
and see a movie that's fantastic, most of the country cannot.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't think there's anything else we need to say.
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
That's telling you where the industry is going and how you,
individually or maybe just you and your friends may love
the communal experience of watching a movie, but that's not
the majority anymore. We like to watch movies at home.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Is it as great and I put that in their quotes,
great as seeing a blockbuster in a theater of one
hundred and fifty people on imax screen, Probably not. But
if I don't have to worry about getting in a
fight with people, I don't have to worry about people
kicking the back of my chair, I don't have to
(24:07):
worry about waiting in line because they only for concessions,
because they only have one person behind the counter who's
taken forever to get everybody's food.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, I'll stay by ass at home, thank you very much.
We're gonna get your nuggets though. You can get those
at the store, you really can, you really a true?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Just about all the movie theater food is available in stores, obviously,
all the candy, obviously, the hot dogs, obviously, the chicken fingers.
All that kind of stuff is available. And what I
mean by that is the actual exact same food. It
may not be branded, is that. But all these places
get their food from, like Cisco Foods, whatever, the same
(24:49):
vendors of food. It's not different. So I don't know
what the movie theater offers me. It used to be
they offered me a film that I could not see
anywhere else but in theaters.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'll wait two.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Weeks, you know, But see the thing about it is
is it's beyond just just about the films itself. It's
the creature comforts that home offers that the theater does not.
For something like Sinners, Yes, it was great seeing it
on the big screen. I absolutely love watching on the
(25:23):
big screen. I want to see it again in IMAX
so I can see it as it's meant to be seen.
All that, right, But something like Mickey seventeen, Hell no, man,
that was meant to watch it at home so I
can pause it and be like, I'll come back to this.
I'm gonna go warm something up, not me having to
get there, go and try to get something before the
film shows, go in and.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Sit through this whole damn thing, losing my mind. And no,
but here's the problem. A lot of the.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
New concept movies, the original movies, they're not event movies.
Speaker 8 (25:55):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
No, if it's not an event movie, something that I
feel that I gotta see, or people are talking about
Mickey seventeen, Novacaine, any number of movies, No, I'm just
gonna wait and it may be a great movie, but
it's not gonna be worth me taking the risk of
dealing with the theater experience, dealing with it theater experience
(26:16):
and a bad movie and a bad experience overall, the
gas wasted.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
No, I'll just wait.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'll just be patient and wait for a mediocre movie
and watch it at home and maybe it will pleasantly
surprise me.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
We'll catch up with George Norry and on my final
thought regarding Shannon Sharp. If you don't know the latest,
it got really bad for Shannon Sharp today. It's gonna
get worse. We'll tell you about it next.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Can't I mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
We're live on YouTube right now, still at mister Mokelly
and the iHeartRadio app. Coast to Coast AM with George Norry,
who joins me right now, Sir.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Mister Kelly, how you been.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I'm been doing well, doing well. Thank you for asking.
How about yourself? Great?
Speaker 7 (27:06):
We got a great show tonight. We're going to talk
about the wonders of the universe, and then later on
our investigative reporter Cheryl Jones joins us to talk about
strange and unusual things on Coast to Coast.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What do you consider strange and unusual, George, at this
point in your career.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
Just about everything.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well still even still even still, all right, I'll be
tuning in see.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right before we get out of here. I said
in the first.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Segment that I was going to use Shannon Sharp as
part of my final thought in this last segment. And
I want to take my time with this one because
there is a lesson in here for somebody, even though
you may not be as wealthy as Shannon Sharp, or
even as old as Shannon Sharp for that matter, there's
a lesson in here as far as how decisions seemingly
(27:56):
insignificant can have an outsized impact on your life. And
we told you about some of the allegations and accusations
facing prominent sports personality and podcaster Shannon Sharp, and they
range from sexual assault to forcible rape. And to be clear,
this is a civil lawsuit, not a criminal one or
(28:18):
criminal charges, so this will be an issue of liability,
not a criminal judgment. But also that means the standards
of proof are remarkably different. In a criminal proceeding, the
standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt, we're all
familiar with that. But in a civil proceeding, the standard
of proof required is a preponderance of evidence. It's much
(28:41):
much lower threshold, meaning it's just about who has a
little bit more evidence than the other. The preponderance of
evidence on which side does it fall that determines whether
someone is found liable or not liable. Put another way,
it's much more likely that this will not go the
way that Shannon Sharp would want it to go, as
(29:03):
opposed to if there were charges. But speaking of charges,
depending on what happens in discovery for this lawsuit, there's
nothing to say that there won't be enough evidence for
the DA to decide to step in and file charges
because the lawsuit is very, very exact and explicit regarding
(29:23):
detailed alleged rape.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So that's also a possibility.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
In other words, it can get much worse before it
gets better for Shannon Sharp. And I mentioned all this
because Shannon Sharp announced today via a written statement on
social media that he is stepping back and taking a
leave from ESPN, one of his streams of income.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't need to read it. It's a boilerplate.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He denies all the allegations, says he'll be vindicted, vindicated
thanks his supporters, YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
You've all read them before. You've heard them before. It's boilerplate.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
But this final thought is specifically for young people, and
I think of young people in their teens or twenties.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You need to hear this more than anyone else.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
You need to know that just because you do something
off the clock or not at your job, you can
still ruin your life. You can still ruin your professional life,
you can still make it difficult for you for the
rest of your life. You can still get your contract voided,
you can still destroy everything you worked for. And you
(30:26):
may not know this, but Shannon Sharp was eyeing a
one hundred million dollar deal connected to his club Shayshay podcast,
one hundred million dollars that was just reported earlier this week.
In fact, one day before this lawsuit was filed. Don't
get me wrong, Shannon Sharp was already a multi millionaire.
It's not about whether he's going to be destitute. But
(30:48):
one hundred million dollar deals don't come around twice if
you fumble away the first one, asked Jonathan Majors. A
common refrain by defenders of Sharp is that, well, what's
wrong with what he did?
Speaker 8 (31:02):
It?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Was two consenting adults. Well, that's actually up for debate
and the whole point of the lawsuit. But the lawsuit,
let's put that aside for a second. Let's just say
Shannon Sharp did not engage in any level of sexual assault.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And again this is specifically for young people. Just because
something is legal, i e.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Consenting adults engaging in sects, it does not mean that
it is defensible.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Did y'all get that?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Just because something is legal young people, it does not
mean it is defensible. And it does not mean that
there aren't consequences to the person who happens to be
a public figure. Most entertainment personalities, and this includes me.
I don't like to think of myself as a public figure,
(31:54):
but it does include me. Most entertainment personalities have contracts
with infamy clauses, some call them morals clauses, meaning you
don't even have to get arrested. You don't have to
even get charged with a crime or convicted of one.
You can just do something which embarrasses your employer. You know,
end up in a TikTok video harassing someone. Be a
(32:15):
Karen Be part of a protest at the Capitol on
January sixth. It could be big, or it could be
really really small, But if it is embarrassing to your
employer or brings infamy to your employer, you can be
gone immediately immediately. So don't think, well, whatever I do
on social media is my business. That's private now. Uh no, no, no,
(32:39):
don't make that mistake. Far too many people seem to
think that what you do on your quo quote unquote
own time has no bearing on your job.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No, you are always an ambassador for your job. Hear me,
young folks.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You are always an ambassador for your job, regardless of
being at will or under contract. And here's the takeaway.
The lesson of the Shannon Sharp is that this was
of his own doing. Regardless of how this lawsuit turns out,
he is not a victim. Whereas there is nothing inherently
(33:12):
illegal about a fifty six year old band dating a
nineteen year old OnlyFans model, there's still some discussion of
when they actually met, when they actually started quote unquote dating,
and whether there was actual an exchange of money in
this relationship while they were dating. Lawsuit notwithstanding, But when
(33:35):
you exhibit horrendous judgment, you're Shannon Sharp. You're a multimillionnaire.
You're looking at one hundred million dollar deal. Why you
think someone who's nineteen years old at the time you
allegedly started dating has as much to lose as you,
the fifty six year old with the public figure, public
(33:56):
personality and the one hundred million dollar deal on the table.
Why you would think that dating her is in any
way keeping your life and livelihood safe. Just means that
you don't deserve that hundred million dollar deal at all,
because you fumbled the bag, because you were thinking with
(34:20):
the wrong head. Young people, it can happen to you.
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