March 28, 2025 • 23 mins
The Final Thoughts of the week and we went hard this week! Politics, sports, religion, war, classified, sensitive information, Christianity, theocratic values...we covered it all!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh lad with MO six fun. And I told you
from the first segment what my final thought was going
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to cover. It's the biggest story in the world, and
I mean in the world. In fact, when I leave
here tonight, I still got to do an interview with
the BBC because the world is wanting to ask us
what the hell happened. And it's kind of hard to
call it fake news when you texted the editor in
chief of a major publication yourself. It's kind of hard
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to play the whole anonymous leaker game when it's you
and seventeen other people who are listed by name and
or their numbers in a text chat.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Kind of hard to do.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The White House said today it was reviewing how the
editor in chief of The Atlantic magazine was accidentally added
the words to a group text in which people who
appeared to be members of President Donald Trump's administration discussed
plans to launch airstrikes against UTI militants in Yemen. Let
me step in here and help everybody out. Make it
real simple. There's nothing to review. We all know how
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to add people to a group text. We all know
what it's like to accidentally add the wrong person or
text the wrong person. Or drunk text the wrong person.
Trust me, I know all about that. I've done it all,
and I'm kind of an expert on this, so I'm
more than qualified to opine. I've had more than a
few drunk texts to my name. I'm not proud of it,
but I'll tell the truth. What I don't know is
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how and why clearly classified information, including military operations, strategy,
and strike specifics, found their way into a private as
a non government agency system text chat which included non
government phones. For that, I have no answer. I got nothing.
I don't know how or why the Secretary of Defense
thought SMS or MMS emojis and gifts or the appropriate
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delivery mechanism for top secret attack plans. I can't get
in that man's mind. But I damn sure know what
drunk texts look like. And this seems like the behavior
of someone drunk texting literally, you know, not exercising good judgment.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But forget all that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
We all know it's no big deal, at least according
to the Trump administration emails on non government servers back
in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now that was a big deal. Hillary Clinton, lock her up.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Remember that classified documents in a bathroom that you refuse
to give back even after the FBI sends over a subpoena.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Nah, that's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Texting military ops specifics to everybody and them mama and
accidentally a journalist.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Nah, not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I would rather you tell me that national security never
was and never will be a thing. Just say that
lie to me. I would rather you tell me that
than try to pretzel yourself into a not arguing that
Hillary Clinton's emails were somehow worse than Pize's and mojis.
We know that Vice President JD. Vance was part of
that text thread. We know that Secretary of State Marco
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Rubio was also part of the text thread. We know
that John Ratcliffe, CIA director was also part of the thread,
and so we can also be rightfully assume that Telsea Gabbert,
Director of National Intelligence, were also on that thread. Given
their likely need to know basis, just spoof any and
all of their numbers and sect deaf PEAT will probably
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tell you anything you want to know, if not for
the patriotism, and I do mean patriotism of Jeffrey Goldberg
to neither go public nor share the privilege and classified
info in advance the world could have been a very
different place today. Mission would have been compromised and American
servicemen and women would have been in more of harm's way.
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Oh remember when people demanded Lloyd Austin, then Secretary of Defense,
demanded that he resigned for having a medical procedure and
just not telling the president.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Remember that? Oh good times, I tell you, good times.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
But this is where I must, I must invoke the
roach theory once again. It's not the roaches you see
which should concern you, but all the ones you don't see.
Do you really think this is the one and only
top secret, slash highly classified information being bandied about on
Verizon Sprint or t mobile bandwidth? Of course it isn't.
You Just don't start texting seventeen of your closest government
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friends and giving them specifics on a military strike and
not have sixteen of them object unless that was a
standard form of communication.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And let me be honest here, I'm not mad, I'm
not outraged. I'm not even surprised.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm just saying, miss me with any supposed concerns about
national security or China mining our secrets and data via TikTok,
when all they need to do is hack US telecoms.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Remember when the Wall Street Journal reported on January fifth,
the Chinese hack of US telecoms had compromised more firms
than pre known That hack comprised of AT and T, Verizon,
T Mobile in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five.
You think they don't already know about the careless and
casual mode of communication between our defense apparatus or apparati
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as they said in the commercials can you hear me now?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Can you hear me now? For k IF I am
six forty, I'm O'Kelly.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's still the biggest story in the world, so I'm
not going to run away from it. Of course, I'm
talking about signal leak. We're learning more and more as
time goes on. We're learning who was on the text thread,
more about the information which was shared in that chat,
and the spin which is being used to defend it
or minimize it. It is the biggest story in the world,
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And of course a bunch of comparisons are being made
to Hillary Clinton, but you know, for political purposes, mostly
in sincere comparisons. Some what have you believed that Clinton's
use of a personal server was worse, and those same
people claim hipocrisy. Others will argue that the signal leak
is worse, and they'll yell hipocrisy. And there's even a
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third group which will pose the hypothetical of just imagine
if Lloyd Austin or some other sect def did the
same thing, what would happen? All pretty predictable stuff. But
this ain't hard. This is rather easy, you know how
I say, get the easy ones right. This is so simple.
People make it hard needlessly. So here's the solution. Just
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treat them all the same. I'm not talking about the spin,
the media coverage, or measurement of the outrage. Just treat
the actual individuals to players involved the same. That's the
only supposed hipocrisy in it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
One should worry about.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Not what Fox hosts say or who they defend, not
what MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hosts say or who they condemn.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just treat the actual individuals the players involved the same.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The actual hypocrisy is.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
In not treating them and investigating all of them the same.
I hope that's not some sort of controversial statement. If
you thought Hillary Clinton should have been locked up, that means,
at the minimum, you thought she should have been investigated.
She was investigated, She gave a statement to the FBI,
She was brought before Congress and testified for eleven hours.
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A full report was released by a Republican led committee,
which also found no wrongdoing on her part. Yes, that's
what it found. You can google it for yourself. But
the same should be done here. Treat them all the same,
investigation congressional hearings and let the chips fall where they may.
It doesn't mean you're like the outcome or even agree
with it, but it shouldn't be about taking in one's word,
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like Congressman Dan Crenshaw said he would take Pete Hegseth
at his word. No, no, no, not when it comes
to national security issues. But Mo, you're just a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
No I'm not. Mo, You're just a flaming liberal. No
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'll have you know that I was the first person
here on KFI who said that I believe Hillary Clinton
should have been charged given what we knew and the
negligence alleged relative to the statute.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I got the audio to prove it. I was the first.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was on the air in for Gary and Shannon
when former FBI Director James Colemey made his public declination
of charging Clinton.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But I'm all about consistency. Treat them all the same.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If there is a flagrant departure from protocol when it
comes to handling sensitive or dare I say, classified information,
then treat them all the same. I don't care if
it's boxes in your goal plated bathroom at your resort,
or in your garage at your home in Delaware. Investigate accordingly.
Let the chips fall where they may. But see, that's
why we have correction. That's why we had Inspectors General.
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That's the exact purpose for them. Here's how I know.
Remember when former sect deaf Lloyd Austin disappeared to have
a prostate procedure and didn't tell then President Biden. It
was immediately investigated by the Inspector General, and then Austin
was then sanctioned for his behavior. It went a little
something like increase the unnecessary risk to national security.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That was from the Inspector General.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
There is, or at least was a process in place
for moments like these. The Inspectors General used to be
independent of any administration. Unfortunately no longer. But that's the
purpose that they serve. And here's another point. We don't
need to, nor should we depend on cable news hosts
or interviews of these same people on cable news to
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get to the truth. People can and do lie in interviews.
I'm here to tell you it is perfectly legal to
lie to us in interviews, and they do, but it's
a little more difficult to do under oath. At least
it might or at least used to come with some
degree of consequences because of the vil analysis. Either we
actually care about national security or we don't. It's one
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or the other, but it's sure as hell won't be
both or when politically convenient for k If I am
six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I've been thinking about this for the better part of
a couple of weeks, and I haven't been able to
really put my or string my words together. I think
I'm there now, but it's weird to me how we
always wanted to have it both ways. I'm all about
consistency and principle, but we want to have it both ways.
We don't want politics and sports, but expect teams to
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visit the White House and take pictures with the President
and are fine with the president showing up to wrestling
matches UFC, the Daytona five hundred and the Super Bowl,
just for an example.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
We want to have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
We supposedly don't want entertainers talking politics, but we elect
a TV game show host as president twice. We complain
about the supposed cancel culture, but we also never miss
a chance to root for the failure of every Disney
movie review bombing and boycotting because we think Disney movies
are quote unquote two woke. It's weird to me, and
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that's the only word I can think of. Strange, weird, whatever,
it's weird. How snow White supposedly shouldn't be played by
a half Latina, half Polish woman, but Noah can be
played by an Australian Russell Krowe remember that I do.
Nobody said a mumbling word, I mean outside of me.
Christian Bale can play Moses, Joel Edgerton can play Ramses,
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the Egyptian Pharaoh. Remember all the outrage over those roles
of portrayals.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's okay, neither do I.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's strange how we complain about music artists and their politics,
that is, unless we agree with them.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We mentioned Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Earlier in the show it Works both Ways, he received
all sorts of backlash for performing at the second Trump inauguration.
This was after him calling black artists who performed at
the first Trump inauguration sellouts. Now many in the African
American community want to call Snoop the sellout for performing
at a Trump inauguration.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We are a weird bunch.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We're fine with artists, entertainers, sports figures espousing their politics
just as long as we agree with them. People will
complain when racist are swapped, supposedly because it's not true
to the source material when it comes to Disney movies
or superhero movies.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But then those.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Same people I'm talking about, the very same people also
complaining when Captain America is played by a black man
slash the falcon, which is literally in that the source material.
Y'all Americans, confuse me. You want it both ways all
the time. Earlier in the show, I told you about
how Mel Gibson is set to begin production on the
sequel to the Passion of the Christ, appropriately titled The
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Resurrection of the Christ. Gibson a lightning rot at times
from his previous domestic issues to his prominent political involvement
in California politics right now, Right now, he's making his
art to express his religious and political views, and there
will be zero complaints and entertainers who should keep their
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mouths shut when it comes to politics. It's strange because
those complaints won't be levy at him. And I'm actually
good with that. I am a Christian. I am fine
with someone making a movie about Christ. I am fine
with any and all artists espousing their religious views their
political views through their art. But it's strange how we
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get uptight about that, because I have to ask the question,
is Mel Gibson any different than Alec Baldwin, who we
also covered tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Are there really any.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Different other than their specific brand of politics. They both
have had some questionable personal episodes over the years, right
can we agree on that?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
They're very vocal in their political beliefs, and both engage
in art commonly which prominently features their beliefs and politics.
Either we are okay with actors, musicians, and dare I say,
even entertainment companies engaging in free expression, or we aren't.
Are we really going to try to argue that Rachel
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Ziegler is not accurate to portray snow White. But Jim
covizl as Jesus is, are we really going to try
to make that argument boycott but support mel No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
If it's about the principle, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
If you want the freedom of artists to express themselves,
then they will express themselves. And now you can either
support or not support. But you can't say one is
right and the other's wrong. Not if you're trying to
stand on principle. Let me go further with this, let
me go back to politics and art. You think, since
we talk about movies all the time, you think Rocky
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four with Rocky beating Ivan Drago of the Soviet Union
during the height of the Cold War in the real
world was not a political statement. You think the complete
Bob Dylan music catalog wasn't a political statement. Stevie Wonder
and Paul McCartney's Ebonie Andnvery that was a political statement too.
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I'm here to tell you didn't know that it actually was.
Marvin Gay Bob Marley, Art in all of its various forms,
has always been a political form of expression.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Maybe you just weren't paying it. Hey, Mark Ronner, did
you know? I know you knew. We're not just going
to put this in here anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Star Trek was a political statement about achieving a post racial,
post capitalism society.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They just said it in the future and in space.
If you didn't see that, you didn't understand the thing
you watched.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
The first interracial kiss in television history was where Mark
Ronner Kirkanu Hura. All in the Family was a political
statement on race relations. Even the Cosby Show was a
political statement. I bet you didn't know that. It was
specifically done to fight against the negative stereotypes of African Americans,
showing a complete black family unit with two professional parents
with postgraduate degrees, and people criticized it as being quote
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unquote unrealistic. But that's part of the reason why Bill
Cosby did that show. You ever watched Blue Bloods, Oh,
that's definitely a show with political undertones. By the way,
it's a great show, but there's definitely a political bent
to it. Same is true with Law and Order, just
in the other direction. Both of them are great shows,
by the way, but art, as in music, television, movies,
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they have all always been expressions of our individual and
collective politics. And you know what, it's okay, but it's
not okay to suggest that here in the twenty twenties
that artists or entertainers need to not express their individual
views or not create art expressing those views, because to
do so, in a word is an American for k
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If I am six forty, I'm mo Kelly. You know
what my final word is going to be on and
I'm going to try not to offend everybody listening, But
I make no guarantees, and I also make no apologies.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Let me put it that way.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I've been thinking about this over the years in
a general sense, but with the Marvin Sapps story, it
kind of meant that I needed to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Faith and religion there are two different things. Religion has
nothing to do with faith. Religion is about dogma. It's
about rules. It's about dictating how you're supposed to live
your life, how you worship.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's religion.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Faith, on the other hand, is your personal relationship with
Jesus or your God. It's your one on one conversation
with the Almighty. It's very personal, but one definitely impacts
the other. You can have a bad experience with a
church or a minister, and I told you about some
of mine, and Twallah told you about some of his.
That bad experience can damage your faith, especially if you're
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a nwbie in Christ. In other words, you're new in
your religious experience learning about Christ. That's what it means
to be a newbie. And betrayal by religion is not
a new phenomenon. And yes, money is still the root
of all evil. We've seen it with the Catholic Church
and pre smallestation scandals. We've seen it with these megachurch
pastors time and time again, from garden y ighty sex
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scandals to financial malfeasan scandals. It seems like the bigger
the church or profile of the pastor the bigger the sins.
It's really no wonder why church attendance is at an
all time low and atheism grows at almost a proportional rate.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
There's a connection there.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Throw in politics and you really have a cluster truck.
America wants to turn itself into a theocracy and tell
everyone how to live, even though this has never been
a Christian nation. Oh oh, getting ready to step on
toes never been a Christian nation. We may be a
nation of mostly Christians, but never an actual Christian nation.
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There's no mention of Jesus Christ, and either the Declaration
of Independence or the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I know for a fact I looked at it's not there.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
The phrase in God we trust was added to money
and the Pledge of Allegiance in the nineteen fifties as
a response to communism, not as a founding principle of
the country. And never mind the fact that just mentioning
the word God does it make something Christian hate to
be pedantic and all biblical like, But the whole idea
of Christianity has a Jesus requirement. Christianity requires that you
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confess with your mouth and believe with all your heart
that Jesus is the Son of God, was crucified and
rose on the third Day. That, in short, is what
it means to be a Christian, not just mentioning the
word God or reciting it as part of a pledge
of allegiance. The New Testament is pretty pretty clear about that.
But that's assuming that you've actually read the Bible and
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not just put Christian on your social media profile, and
you're not using that to quote unquote virtue signal as
to the other religions or the people who are of
other religions that you don't like.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But you don't have to take my word for it.
Go ahead and read the Bible for yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
My point, my main point tonight, is that religion has
poisoned or has been poisoned, depending on how you look
at it. Religion today is more a weapon and blunt
object to bludgeon people to behave a certain way, hate
certain people, justify books to be banned, and or dictate
women's health decisions.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh yes, I'm going there.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
People use the Bible to cherry pick issues to manipulate
other people's lives, not live their own lives. Being a
Christian is about how you individually live, not how other
people live or who other people marry. Actual Christians know this.
They will call themselves pro life, yet are indifferent to
what the Bible says about treating the stranger in your land,
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or how we should care for the poor and the needy.
That's what I mean by cherry picking. I told you
earlier this hour about a megachurch pastor and gospel music
star Marvin Sap worth more than four million dollars who
refuse to let people exit as church until the congregation
ponied up forty thousand dollars collectively, a congregation who likely
are all less wealthy than SAP. A congregation who can
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get shaken down or robbed any day of the week
anywhere else, just weren't expecting to get robbed on Sunday
in the House of the Lord forty thousand dollars for
his task exempt church.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But SAP is closer to the rule than the exception.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Or we could talk about megachurch pastor Joel Oldstein who
had to be shamed into opening up his megachurch to
flood victims during the twenty seventeen Hurricane Harvey, and had
the dirty nerve to defend his decision to keep his
church doors closed. Those are just some of the examples
of religion, not faith. The problem in America, and here
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is the real takeaway. The problem in America is not
that there aren't enough people calling themselves Christian. The problem
in America is not that the Christianity hasn't been woven
into the constitution. The problem is we've decided to use
christian as a way to signal to others who we hate.
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For KFI AM six forty, I'm o Kelly didn't
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Do anything, Sai
Oh lad with MO six fun. And I told you
from the first segment what my final thought was going
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to cover. It's the biggest story in the world, and
I mean in the world. In fact, when I leave
here tonight, I still got to do an interview with
the BBC because the world is wanting to ask us
what the hell happened. And it's kind of hard to
call it fake news when you texted the editor in
chief of a major publication yourself. It's kind of hard
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to play the whole anonymous leaker game when it's you
and seventeen other people who are listed by name and
or their numbers in a text chat.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Kind of hard to do.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
The White House said today it was reviewing how the
editor in chief of The Atlantic magazine was accidentally added
the words to a group text in which people who
appeared to be members of President Donald Trump's administration discussed
plans to launch airstrikes against UTI militants in Yemen. Let
me step in here and help everybody out. Make it
real simple. There's nothing to review. We all know how
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to add people to a group text. We all know
what it's like to accidentally add the wrong person or
text the wrong person. Or drunk text the wrong person.
Trust me, I know all about that. I've done it all,
and I'm kind of an expert on this, so I'm
more than qualified to opine. I've had more than a
few drunk texts to my name. I'm not proud of it,
but I'll tell the truth. What I don't know is
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how and why clearly classified information, including military operations, strategy,
and strike specifics, found their way into a private as
a non government agency system text chat which included non
government phones. For that, I have no answer. I got nothing.
I don't know how or why the Secretary of Defense
thought SMS or MMS emojis and gifts or the appropriate
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delivery mechanism for top secret attack plans. I can't get
in that man's mind. But I damn sure know what
drunk texts look like. And this seems like the behavior
of someone drunk texting literally, you know, not exercising good judgment.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
But forget all that.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
We all know it's no big deal, at least according
to the Trump administration emails on non government servers back
in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now that was a big deal. Hillary Clinton, lock her up.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Remember that classified documents in a bathroom that you refuse
to give back even after the FBI sends over a subpoena.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Nah, that's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Texting military ops specifics to everybody and them mama and
accidentally a journalist.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Nah, not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I would rather you tell me that national security never
was and never will be a thing. Just say that
lie to me. I would rather you tell me that
than try to pretzel yourself into a not arguing that
Hillary Clinton's emails were somehow worse than Pize's and mojis.
We know that Vice President JD. Vance was part of
that text thread. We know that Secretary of State Marco
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Rubio was also part of the text thread. We know
that John Ratcliffe, CIA director was also part of the thread,
and so we can also be rightfully assume that Telsea Gabbert,
Director of National Intelligence, were also on that thread. Given
their likely need to know basis, just spoof any and
all of their numbers and sect deaf PEAT will probably
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tell you anything you want to know, if not for
the patriotism, and I do mean patriotism of Jeffrey Goldberg
to neither go public nor share the privilege and classified
info in advance the world could have been a very
different place today. Mission would have been compromised and American
servicemen and women would have been in more of harm's way.
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Oh remember when people demanded Lloyd Austin, then Secretary of Defense,
demanded that he resigned for having a medical procedure and
just not telling the president.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Remember that? Oh good times, I tell you, good times.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
But this is where I must, I must invoke the
roach theory once again. It's not the roaches you see
which should concern you, but all the ones you don't see.
Do you really think this is the one and only
top secret, slash highly classified information being bandied about on
Verizon Sprint or t mobile bandwidth? Of course it isn't.
You Just don't start texting seventeen of your closest government
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friends and giving them specifics on a military strike and
not have sixteen of them object unless that was a
standard form of communication.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And let me be honest here, I'm not mad, I'm
not outraged. I'm not even surprised.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I'm just saying, miss me with any supposed concerns about
national security or China mining our secrets and data via TikTok,
when all they need to do is hack US telecoms.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Remember when the Wall Street Journal reported on January fifth,
the Chinese hack of US telecoms had compromised more firms
than pre known That hack comprised of AT and T, Verizon,
T Mobile in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five.
You think they don't already know about the careless and
casual mode of communication between our defense apparatus or apparati
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as they said in the commercials can you hear me now?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Can you hear me now? For k IF I am
six forty, I'm O'Kelly.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's still the biggest story in the world, so I'm
not going to run away from it. Of course, I'm
talking about signal leak. We're learning more and more as
time goes on. We're learning who was on the text thread,
more about the information which was shared in that chat,
and the spin which is being used to defend it
or minimize it. It is the biggest story in the world,
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And of course a bunch of comparisons are being made
to Hillary Clinton, but you know, for political purposes, mostly
in sincere comparisons. Some what have you believed that Clinton's
use of a personal server was worse, and those same
people claim hipocrisy. Others will argue that the signal leak
is worse, and they'll yell hipocrisy. And there's even a
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third group which will pose the hypothetical of just imagine
if Lloyd Austin or some other sect def did the
same thing, what would happen? All pretty predictable stuff. But
this ain't hard. This is rather easy, you know how
I say, get the easy ones right. This is so simple.
People make it hard needlessly. So here's the solution. Just
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treat them all the same. I'm not talking about the spin,
the media coverage, or measurement of the outrage. Just treat
the actual individuals to players involved the same. That's the
only supposed hipocrisy in it.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
One should worry about.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Not what Fox hosts say or who they defend, not
what MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hosts say or who they condemn.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just treat the actual individuals the players involved the same.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The actual hypocrisy is.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
In not treating them and investigating all of them the same.
I hope that's not some sort of controversial statement. If
you thought Hillary Clinton should have been locked up, that means,
at the minimum, you thought she should have been investigated.
She was investigated, She gave a statement to the FBI,
She was brought before Congress and testified for eleven hours.
(07:37):
A full report was released by a Republican led committee,
which also found no wrongdoing on her part. Yes, that's
what it found. You can google it for yourself. But
the same should be done here. Treat them all the same,
investigation congressional hearings and let the chips fall where they may.
It doesn't mean you're like the outcome or even agree
with it, but it shouldn't be about taking in one's word,
(08:01):
like Congressman Dan Crenshaw said he would take Pete Hegseth
at his word. No, no, no, not when it comes
to national security issues. But Mo, you're just a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
No I'm not. Mo, You're just a flaming liberal. No
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'll have you know that I was the first person
here on KFI who said that I believe Hillary Clinton
should have been charged given what we knew and the
negligence alleged relative to the statute.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I got the audio to prove it. I was the first.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was on the air in for Gary and Shannon
when former FBI Director James Colemey made his public declination
of charging Clinton.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
But I'm all about consistency. Treat them all the same.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If there is a flagrant departure from protocol when it
comes to handling sensitive or dare I say, classified information,
then treat them all the same. I don't care if
it's boxes in your goal plated bathroom at your resort,
or in your garage at your home in Delaware. Investigate accordingly.
Let the chips fall where they may. But see, that's
why we have correction. That's why we had Inspectors General.
(09:04):
That's the exact purpose for them. Here's how I know.
Remember when former sect deaf Lloyd Austin disappeared to have
a prostate procedure and didn't tell then President Biden. It
was immediately investigated by the Inspector General, and then Austin
was then sanctioned for his behavior. It went a little
something like increase the unnecessary risk to national security.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That was from the Inspector General.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
There is, or at least was a process in place
for moments like these. The Inspectors General used to be
independent of any administration. Unfortunately no longer. But that's the
purpose that they serve. And here's another point. We don't
need to, nor should we depend on cable news hosts
or interviews of these same people on cable news to
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get to the truth. People can and do lie in interviews.
I'm here to tell you it is perfectly legal to
lie to us in interviews, and they do, but it's
a little more difficult to do under oath. At least
it might or at least used to come with some
degree of consequences because of the vil analysis. Either we
actually care about national security or we don't. It's one
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or the other, but it's sure as hell won't be
both or when politically convenient for k If I am
six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I've been thinking about this for the better part of
a couple of weeks, and I haven't been able to
really put my or string my words together. I think
I'm there now, but it's weird to me how we
always wanted to have it both ways. I'm all about
consistency and principle, but we want to have it both ways.
We don't want politics and sports, but expect teams to
(11:10):
visit the White House and take pictures with the President
and are fine with the president showing up to wrestling
matches UFC, the Daytona five hundred and the Super Bowl,
just for an example.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
We want to have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
We supposedly don't want entertainers talking politics, but we elect
a TV game show host as president twice. We complain
about the supposed cancel culture, but we also never miss
a chance to root for the failure of every Disney
movie review bombing and boycotting because we think Disney movies
are quote unquote two woke. It's weird to me, and
(11:45):
that's the only word I can think of. Strange, weird, whatever,
it's weird. How snow White supposedly shouldn't be played by
a half Latina, half Polish woman, but Noah can be
played by an Australian Russell Krowe remember that I do.
Nobody said a mumbling word, I mean outside of me.
Christian Bale can play Moses, Joel Edgerton can play Ramses,
(12:07):
the Egyptian Pharaoh. Remember all the outrage over those roles
of portrayals.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
That's okay, neither do I.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It's strange how we complain about music artists and their politics,
that is, unless we agree with them.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We mentioned Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Earlier in the show it Works both Ways, he received
all sorts of backlash for performing at the second Trump inauguration.
This was after him calling black artists who performed at
the first Trump inauguration sellouts. Now many in the African
American community want to call Snoop the sellout for performing
at a Trump inauguration.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
We are a weird bunch.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
We're fine with artists, entertainers, sports figures espousing their politics
just as long as we agree with them. People will
complain when racist are swapped, supposedly because it's not true
to the source material when it comes to Disney movies
or superhero movies.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But then those.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Same people I'm talking about, the very same people also
complaining when Captain America is played by a black man
slash the falcon, which is literally in that the source material.
Y'all Americans, confuse me. You want it both ways all
the time. Earlier in the show, I told you about
how Mel Gibson is set to begin production on the
sequel to the Passion of the Christ, appropriately titled The
(13:27):
Resurrection of the Christ. Gibson a lightning rot at times
from his previous domestic issues to his prominent political involvement
in California politics right now, Right now, he's making his
art to express his religious and political views, and there
will be zero complaints and entertainers who should keep their
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mouths shut when it comes to politics. It's strange because
those complaints won't be levy at him. And I'm actually
good with that. I am a Christian. I am fine
with someone making a movie about Christ. I am fine
with any and all artists espousing their religious views their
political views through their art. But it's strange how we
(14:10):
get uptight about that, because I have to ask the question,
is Mel Gibson any different than Alec Baldwin, who we
also covered tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Are there really any.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Different other than their specific brand of politics. They both
have had some questionable personal episodes over the years, right
can we agree on that?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
They're very vocal in their political beliefs, and both engage
in art commonly which prominently features their beliefs and politics.
Either we are okay with actors, musicians, and dare I say,
even entertainment companies engaging in free expression, or we aren't.
Are we really going to try to argue that Rachel
(14:49):
Ziegler is not accurate to portray snow White. But Jim
covizl as Jesus is, are we really going to try
to make that argument boycott but support mel No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
If it's about the principle, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
If you want the freedom of artists to express themselves,
then they will express themselves. And now you can either
support or not support. But you can't say one is
right and the other's wrong. Not if you're trying to
stand on principle. Let me go further with this, let
me go back to politics and art. You think, since
we talk about movies all the time, you think Rocky
(15:27):
four with Rocky beating Ivan Drago of the Soviet Union
during the height of the Cold War in the real
world was not a political statement. You think the complete
Bob Dylan music catalog wasn't a political statement. Stevie Wonder
and Paul McCartney's Ebonie Andnvery that was a political statement too.
(15:49):
I'm here to tell you didn't know that it actually was.
Marvin Gay Bob Marley, Art in all of its various forms,
has always been a political form of expression.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Maybe you just weren't paying it. Hey, Mark Ronner, did
you know? I know you knew. We're not just going
to put this in here anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Star Trek was a political statement about achieving a post racial,
post capitalism society.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
They just said it in the future and in space.
If you didn't see that, you didn't understand the thing
you watched.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
The first interracial kiss in television history was where Mark
Ronner Kirkanu Hura. All in the Family was a political
statement on race relations. Even the Cosby Show was a
political statement. I bet you didn't know that. It was
specifically done to fight against the negative stereotypes of African Americans,
showing a complete black family unit with two professional parents
with postgraduate degrees, and people criticized it as being quote
(16:37):
unquote unrealistic. But that's part of the reason why Bill
Cosby did that show. You ever watched Blue Bloods, Oh,
that's definitely a show with political undertones. By the way,
it's a great show, but there's definitely a political bent
to it. Same is true with Law and Order, just
in the other direction. Both of them are great shows,
by the way, but art, as in music, television, movies,
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they have all always been expressions of our individual and
collective politics. And you know what, it's okay, but it's
not okay to suggest that here in the twenty twenties
that artists or entertainers need to not express their individual
views or not create art expressing those views, because to
do so, in a word is an American for k
(17:22):
If I am six forty, I'm mo Kelly. You know
what my final word is going to be on and
I'm going to try not to offend everybody listening, But
I make no guarantees, and I also make no apologies.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Let me put it that way.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I've been thinking about this over the years in
a general sense, but with the Marvin Sapps story, it
kind of meant that I needed to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Faith and religion there are two different things. Religion has
nothing to do with faith. Religion is about dogma. It's
about rules. It's about dictating how you're supposed to live
your life, how you worship.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
That's religion.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Faith, on the other hand, is your personal relationship with
Jesus or your God. It's your one on one conversation
with the Almighty. It's very personal, but one definitely impacts
the other. You can have a bad experience with a
church or a minister, and I told you about some
of mine, and Twallah told you about some of his.
That bad experience can damage your faith, especially if you're
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a nwbie in Christ. In other words, you're new in
your religious experience learning about Christ. That's what it means
to be a newbie. And betrayal by religion is not
a new phenomenon. And yes, money is still the root
of all evil. We've seen it with the Catholic Church
and pre smallestation scandals. We've seen it with these megachurch
pastors time and time again, from garden y ighty sex
(19:00):
scandals to financial malfeasan scandals. It seems like the bigger
the church or profile of the pastor the bigger the sins.
It's really no wonder why church attendance is at an
all time low and atheism grows at almost a proportional rate.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
There's a connection there.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Throw in politics and you really have a cluster truck.
America wants to turn itself into a theocracy and tell
everyone how to live, even though this has never been
a Christian nation. Oh oh, getting ready to step on
toes never been a Christian nation. We may be a
nation of mostly Christians, but never an actual Christian nation.
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There's no mention of Jesus Christ, and either the Declaration
of Independence or the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I know for a fact I looked at it's not there.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
The phrase in God we trust was added to money
and the Pledge of Allegiance in the nineteen fifties as
a response to communism, not as a founding principle of
the country. And never mind the fact that just mentioning
the word God does it make something Christian hate to
be pedantic and all biblical like, But the whole idea
of Christianity has a Jesus requirement. Christianity requires that you
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confess with your mouth and believe with all your heart
that Jesus is the Son of God, was crucified and
rose on the third Day. That, in short, is what
it means to be a Christian, not just mentioning the
word God or reciting it as part of a pledge
of allegiance. The New Testament is pretty pretty clear about that.
But that's assuming that you've actually read the Bible and
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not just put Christian on your social media profile, and
you're not using that to quote unquote virtue signal as
to the other religions or the people who are of
other religions that you don't like.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
But you don't have to take my word for it.
Go ahead and read the Bible for yourself.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
My point, my main point tonight, is that religion has
poisoned or has been poisoned, depending on how you look
at it. Religion today is more a weapon and blunt
object to bludgeon people to behave a certain way, hate
certain people, justify books to be banned, and or dictate
women's health decisions.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh yes, I'm going there.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
People use the Bible to cherry pick issues to manipulate
other people's lives, not live their own lives. Being a
Christian is about how you individually live, not how other
people live or who other people marry. Actual Christians know this.
They will call themselves pro life, yet are indifferent to
what the Bible says about treating the stranger in your land,
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or how we should care for the poor and the needy.
That's what I mean by cherry picking. I told you
earlier this hour about a megachurch pastor and gospel music
star Marvin Sap worth more than four million dollars who
refuse to let people exit as church until the congregation
ponied up forty thousand dollars collectively, a congregation who likely
are all less wealthy than SAP. A congregation who can
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get shaken down or robbed any day of the week
anywhere else, just weren't expecting to get robbed on Sunday
in the House of the Lord forty thousand dollars for
his task exempt church.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But SAP is closer to the rule than the exception.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Or we could talk about megachurch pastor Joel Oldstein who
had to be shamed into opening up his megachurch to
flood victims during the twenty seventeen Hurricane Harvey, and had
the dirty nerve to defend his decision to keep his
church doors closed. Those are just some of the examples
of religion, not faith. The problem in America, and here
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is the real takeaway. The problem in America is not
that there aren't enough people calling themselves Christian. The problem
in America is not that the Christianity hasn't been woven
into the constitution. The problem is we've decided to use
christian as a way to signal to others who we hate.
(22:52):
For KFI AM six forty, I'm o Kelly didn't
Speaker 2 (23:11):
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