June 27, 2024 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Guest Host Chris Merrill filling in with a look at the tentative deal reached between crew members and major studios, avoiding another Hollywood strike AND a new study that explores the ways in-which “Fantasy sports could ruin your mental health”…PLUS - A preview of Thursday’s (6/27/24) Presidential debate between Biden and Trump - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
You can here the CNN presidential debate. It is tomorrow six pm on CNN
and simulcount on kfive. We willhave that. I was afraid that we
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were going to get into another Hollywoodstrike. It could have happened, but
it looks like we have avoided thestrike because this listen, who do we
have strikes? The directors didn't endup with a strike, right, but
they were. They had to negotiatethe writers struck and of course we had
a sag after struck. So thecrew members were not negotiating last year the
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crew member negotiations with this year thefilm and TV crew. This is the
Ayatzi Right, the International Alliance ofTheatrical Stage Employees and the Alliance of Motion
Picture and Television Producers go so Yaziand AMP TAP right. Resolution arrived before
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the current contracts expiration date, finallypermitting this is from the Times, finally
permitting industry to breathe a CYB reliefthe wake of two marathon strikes waged by
actors and screenviriners. Yatzi's Hollywood basicallyagreement spans three years covered some fifty thousand
crafts people primarily based in Los Angeleague. So they got a deal hammered down.
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This is great, and I meanthat this is great. Oftentimes when
you have negotiation, and it doesn'twe see this in sports all the time.
But oftentimes, when it comes tonegotiation, the first person gets the
worst deal by the time the lastperson signs. I'll give you an example.
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Let's suppose that. Let's suppose Markis looking for a new contract and
Mark goes in and he says,I'm demanding five hundred thousand dollars a year.
Meanwhile, I'm up for contract negotiationtoo, And they go, Chris,
we want to talk about a newcontract. And I go, oh,
you know what, I'm just gonnawait for a little bit. We
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don't want you to wait. Damn, I'm just gonna kind of sit tight
here. But listen, Chris,what if we just gave you seventy thousand
dollars a year. That's a lowball. I don't think that's gonna happen
when I know what Mark's asking.And so Mark says, I won five
hundred thousand dollars a year. AndI know, Mark, You're not going
to take a pay cut. Hand Twalla is looking at this and t
Walla says, oh, Mark's askingfor five hundred grand. All right,
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let's see what happens here. Theygo, Tula, we want to get
a contract with you, and hegoes, yeah, I'm go I sit
back too. So Mark negotiates.He gets in there. He's not gonna
get this five hundred thousand dollars ayear, but he does end up getting
three hundred thousand dollars a year.So now the company goes, okay,
well we signed Mark for three hundredthousand dollars a year. And then they
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go, Chris, we want tosign your contract and go okay, well,
listen, I know Mark got threehundred thousand dollars a year, and
look at that guy. I'm betterthan him. And if I walk,
what are you gonna do? Imean, I know what the market is
now, the market is more,so I want three to fifty. And
they go, oh, but ifwe give you two fifty, I'm not
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taking less than Mark. I'll takemy talents to somewhere else, and they
go okay, three fifty. Sota Wala comes in. They go,
Tallet, we sell have and hammeredout your contract. Tala goes, I
know what the market is. Theygo, we'll give you the same as
Mark. Twala goes, are youkidding way better than Mark? And they
go, well, are you asgood as Merrily? You go, listen,
you're gonna have to find somebody better. Are you gonna be able to
find somebody better? Not for lessthan your paint. So Tolla goes,
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four hundred or I walk and theygo, wow, you could walk,
sure, But the next person comingin knows what the rate is and it's
gonna be four hundred. Might aswell stick with me, and they go,
okay, four hundred. We seethis playout in sports all the time.
Two years ago, Patrick Mahomes,I don't know if you're familiar with
him. He plays for Taylor Swift'sboyfriend's team, Mark I wanted to make
reference. Yeah, the sport.Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah.
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So Patrick Mahomes signed this ten yeardeal and it was a massive deal.
He was going to be the highestpaid quarterback in professional sports. But he
signed for ten years and I'm tryingto remember how much he was at the
time. I don't remember the exactnumbers. I want to say he's four
hundred and fifty million dollars or tenyears something like that. This just to
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go with that number. It doesn'tmatter. If the cored to run and
people went, wow, he wasthe highest paid quarterback. That's incredible.
And I thought to myself, hemight be the highest paid quarterback now.
And good for him for getting adeal secured, because security is worth something.
A lot of people discount them.But he's this, he's got this
deal secured now, and he mightbe the highest paid quarterback. But lo
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and behold, he's not the topfive anymonger. We're just a couple of
years removed from that. He's notthe top five. I don't even know
if he's going to be in thetop ten because other quarterbacks who are certainly
not as good. No, listen, if you want to sign a great
quarter back, the going rate isforty five. I want forty eight.
So they signed one person at fortyeight and another guy goes forty eight.
You pick that guy's forty eight.Look at my stats are better? Do
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you want me? You're gonna haveto give me fifty fifty. Lamar Jackson
goes fifty. You paid fifty forthat guy. Good luck finding somebody better
than me for less than fifty three. All right, we'll give you fifty
three. So the last person tonegotiate usually gets the best deal. That's
the way it oftentimes works. It'sa little bit different when we talk about
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Hamed, but because what the screenwritersare asking for is different than what the
actors are asking for, is differentthan what the crew the Yanzi members are
asking So it's not exactly an applesto apples thing, right, that's not
necessarily apples to apples, But theconcept of negotiating translates across, and so
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you go, okay, So thestudios are opening up their money for the
writers. The writers got X,Y and Z, and then the actors.
The actors went, okay, yougive the writers something. That's great,
but if you want to put ona product, you're gonna have to
give us. Everybody says A,B and C, X, Y and
Z. Why not? And howcome nobody ever picks the middle of the
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alphabet. Okay, you gave theactors OP and Q. You know what
that means? We want JK andL. How does that sound? See
I just mixed up the alphabet theresounds a little bit like an STD to
be honest with you, all right, you want to STDs? All right?
Everybody get line, okay. Somy point is here is that the
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studios had to be very careful earlyon, and we knew that, which
is why the studios were negotiating sohard early on, because they know that
if they give in as some ofthese demands, that the next group negotiating
is gonna want these things. Theymight not be the same demands, but
there are going to be there's acertain level of expectation that you're gonna cave
on some things, right, Andthat's why the Actors Guild wanted to support
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the Writers Guild so much. That'swhy the unions came together to support one
another because they know that if they'rethe ones they have to give the next
time it is that their contract comesup, their union is going to have
to give. So they don't wantthe unions to have to give because they're
basically all negotiating against the same people, the studios. That's the comedy nominee,
right. So in the case ofthe unions, they knew that they
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wanted the unions to be the oneswho were back in their heavens. This
is great that we got this dealdone. Now, I'm a little surprised
that got done so quickly. I'mreally glad it got done quickly, and
I'm hoping that it means that thedeal gave the union exactly what they wanted.
They said that the deal contains awage scale increase of seven and a
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half percent over a three year term. A says an hourly workers are entitled
to triple time pay whenever the workdayis over fifteen hours. God, this
plump shoots. That is an effortby the union to dissuade employers from scheduling
these marechion marathon days. Can youimagine a fifteen hour shoot? What only
fifteen hours? Are you kidding me? I know, I know, Gohly,
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there's a You know, I wasthat I had a dream when I
was young to be to be inthe industry, and obviously I would I'm
not cut out for it. Butthen i'd start hearing some of these border
stories. Oh man, we wereshooting until twelve thirty. We had to
be back on seting four. Youknow, it just sounds a brutal.
I might have been able to pullthat off when I was younger, but
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I gotta have my I gotta haveminimum seven hours or I don't function.
I can start feeling it where nowby the end of the week, I
start feeling that sleep dead reaping.I just came in. So God,
bless you guys for being troopers.Fifteen out blush shoots. Oh God,
all right, that's it for there'sno business like show business. There is,
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Yeah, bless Yeah, how aboutwe have some fun with fantasy.
I love fantasy fun. That's next. Chris Merrill, I am six Sporting
from O Kelly Tonight Live everywhere inyour right Hurt Radio Web. You're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom h right. It is sometimes embarrassing
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for me to admit this, althoughit's getting a popularity. So sometimes you're
like the cool geek, Does thatmake sense? I love playing fantasy football,
and people that haven't played fantasy footballbefore are very judgment Oh, you're
such a loser. Non sports people. Go is such a loser sports people
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who are big fans of their hometeam. Like if you're a huge Rams
fan and you've never played fantasy sports, for you just losers, just geek.
Stuff's dungeons and dragons for sports people. Yeah, Okay, fine,
yeah, I mean, sure,call it fantasy, call it dungeons and
dragons before sports people. But youknow what, I love it. I
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love it in the same way thatsome people love Renaissance fairs. Good.
It's my thing. I'm a I'ma cool geek, and I'm proud of
it. And I saw a studythis week. I was talking about fantasy
sports players. If you're unfamiliar,let me give you a brief primer on
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this. So with fantasy sports,you don't follow a team. What you
do is you select players to follow, and if the players you select do
better than the players somebody else selects, you win. Okay. So that's
the that's the that's the nuts ofbolts up. Without getting too deep into
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it. You're not picking the thethe Rams versus Seahawks. You're picking one
guy from the Rams, one guyfrom the Seahawks, one guy from the
Patriots, one guy from the Bears, one guy from the Dolphins. And
however they do, however points,they score, many touchdowns, field goals,
tackles, whatever it is, whoeverhas the best group of people wins
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the contents. All right. Sothey did this study and they said that
people who play fantasy sports become passionate, obsessed, and it becomes a potential
source of both joy and anxiety.I agree with all that you become passionate,
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you get obsessed about it, youlove it, and you're very nervous
about it. The new study warnsthat the potentially troubling relationship between fantasy participation.
They did the study in the UK, so it's they were studying fantasy
soccer and mental health, suggesting thatthe more deeply players engage with the game,
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the more extreme their emotional experience hasbecome for better or for works,
so they're after the emotional extremes.It's again, if you haven't played it
before, you may not understand whypeople become so passionate about it. But
let me give you this. Withthe fantasy football, for instance, I'm
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in a league and it's a greatgroup of guys. We have ten guys
in our league and it is awonderful group of camarader We have people who
live here in Los Angeles. Wehave one guy that lives in San Diego
County. We have a number ofguys that live in the Kansas City area,
one guy Houston, one from Denver, one from Chicago, and we
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all get together every year. Weall fly to Las Vegas. We all
see each other once a year.We spend a weekend in Las Vegas,
and that's when we choose which playerswe want on our teams. Okay,
it is a wonderful male bonding experience. And we have been in this league.
I think this is our eleventh year. Some of the guys that were
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single when we started are now married. Some of the guys that were married
or now divorced. Some of theguys that were married or now divorced and
remarried we've been with. Some ofthe guys were unmarried and now they're married
and have a kid. We goto each other's weddings and things like that.
It is a wonderful, wonderful group. It is a it is a
it is a family unto itself,and I got to tell you it is
very very emotionally rewarding. Guys don'tguys won't say that, very odden,
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but it's a special group and wetalk to each other all year round.
So I'd love it. I relishit. It's one of the things,
one of the last things I everwant to give up. However, the
sport itself does become stressful, andthe same way that if you put money
doesn't even matter how much. Ifyou're gambling on a sport, now you
have a vested interests. Now it'snot just I hope my team wins.
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Now you have a vested interest,and for some reason, it flips a
switch, whatever the switch is inyour brain. You go from being a
casual fan and I hope my teamwins, to being frankly an insane fan,
to going you have to win thefightings on fantasy football, they're fantasy
soccer in this case, fantasy sportsvery similar, I would say to gambling.
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They don't draw that conclusion in thestudy, but they say that the
mental health impacts finds it players whoare most heavily invested in the fantasy sports
spending the most time managing their theirTheir players had the most financial stakes in
the game, They reported the highestlevels of a positive mood and the most
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significant mental health concerns. It's paradoxical, and it suggests that for many people
playing fantasy sports is what they sayis a double edged sword capable of producing
immense emotional hives along with potentially troublingloans. That is because when we lose.
It hurts when you win, youare overjoyed. You're trying to be
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humble and not rub it anybody's face, but then you post something online about
what a loser they are. Andthat's part of how guys bond. But
you do feel like it is sofrustrating. The thing is we know that
going in. In fact, Ileft, I was partic spending in three
different leaks. I left one leadthis year that I've been in for out
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of twelve or thirteen years, andI sent a message to the commissioner.
I said, I gotta bylo.The reason is I wasn't getting the highs
or the lows. It was justit had become a chore that would happened.
We didn't have the same bond,but this other group that is githered
in Las Vegas, Adams wasn't there. The fact is we want that stimulation,
we want those highs and lows,and if we're not getting the highs
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and lows, it's not worth thetime investment. I'm not getting the emotional
reward. It's not worth the timeinvestment. So while they say it may
be detrimental for your mental health,I would argue and maybe I'm rationalized,
but I would argue roller coasters mightnot be good for your mental health because
you are intentionally terrorizing your sun.You're giving yourself physical stimuli, and you're
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scaring yourse. We don't ride rollercoasters because they're boring. We don't ride
roller coasters because they're safe. Weride roller coasters because we want to feel
something. Sometimes that safe anxiety iswhat we crave in our lives. My
wife loves her moves, she lovesthe jump scare. She loves it,
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and that's because it gives her astimulation in her life. Same thing I
experienced with this, same excitement Ihave with this with fantasy sports. Yeah,
I get anxious, man. Iwouldn't trade it for anything, wouldn't
trade it for edy. All right, Chris maryl Am six forty we're live
everywhere near I hurt Riady Web,you're listening too. Later with Moe Kelly
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on demand from KFI AM six fortyTomorrow, you can hear the CNN presidential
debate starting at six pm on CNNand then simulcast on KFI. Immediately following
the debate. We will have postdebate coverage and so we'll give this toila,
what is it we're supposed to doI don't know, twenty thirty minutes
or something of kind of the bestand the worst of what we just witnessed.
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Is that the case. I thinkthat's I think that's how it's supposed
to kind like a recap. Yeah, yeah, of what we're or what
we're going to see essentially is there. But but we're not supposed to We're
not supposed to determine who we thoughtwant or lost. No, no,
no, yeah, I'm not verygood at that. No. Yeah,
it's just a recap of what wassaid. You think, you know,
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taking taking this was a strong moment, Hey, that one missed or whatever
it is, so make sure ittakes some diligent notes. I wonder if
there's going to be any moment whenone or both of them just kind of
wander along. Remember the last timethese guys debated. Trump would just kind
of leave the podium, start wanderingaround, and people were like, what
is he doing? And I thinkit was a power play. I think
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he was trying to throw Biden offhis game, but it just kind of
looked like he was dering. Butnow, over the course of the last
six months, we see Biden justrandomly meander at different places, and I
know his team always comes on saysno, he wasn't, but yeah,
there are times that you go,ok, yeah he was. Me and
me and producer Matt were talking aboutthat. Were just like remember when they
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both kind of had their moments.Yeah, but people don't want to call
each other's party out. But it'sjust like, yeah, it happened.
Yeah. Nobody wants to admit thatthere that their candidate could have done something
a little bit off right. Nobodywants to admit that there was any weakness
on the part of their candidate.So anyway, I'm looking at this and
I wonder, I wonder how muchof this debate. I know Trump is
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going to try to hammer this becausethis is his copy. Look, Trump
wrote down, wrote down that Goldenelevator eight no, nine years ago,
now right, he came down theGolden elevator, and he was kind of
he was the punchline. And thenhe started talking about build a wall,
make Mexico paint, build a wall, make Mexico paint for build a wall,
make Mexico pay for it. Andhe started he started making his entire
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campaign about immigration, migration, immigration, imigration, immigration, and then they
would ask him other questions and he'dgo they would ask him at the economy
and say, of course I knowthe economy. I went to Wharton School.
Of course I know about this.And I don't even need to talk
about that because and he was,He's such a master of the brand.
When it comes to that debate tomorrow, I think that I think that Trump
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is going to be very good.This is my this is my prediction,
and we'll talk a little bit moreabout what we think both these guys are
probably going to say. But Ithink Trump is going to try to continue
to bring the conversation back to threethings, immigration, inflation, and crime.
I think these are the three winningtopics for the GOP candidate, and
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these are the three areas where Bidenhas the most vulnerability. I'll say that
Biden spent a lot of time preppingthis, and he's been prepping a camp
David, and I think I don'tknow until it happened, But rather than
allow Trump to put him on thedefensive on these vulnerable topics, I'm guessing,
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just guessing, but I'm guessing thatBiden is going to try to come
out on the offense and somehow tryto take the wind out of the argument
that that Trump has. It's toughto throw Trump off his game, and
Trump counterpunches really, really well.But we also we've had we've had nine
years now to see him. We'vehad nine years to see how he counterpunchends
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and at some point, at somepoint, even the greatest boxers, they
get challengers that start to figure outthe game, right, Mike Tyson,
somebody figuring a Buster Douglas figured himout. Muhammad Ali lost a few fights.
People started to figure him out right, start to figure out where are
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they the weekends? What are theydoing? When Muhammad Ali wrote the dope
we all win? What just happened? I don't think that. And then
listen, you can't rope a dopeagain? After them you used it,
that was your trick play you canyou can't do that again. I don't
know how much more Trump has inthe bag. On the other hand,
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I don't know how much Biden isgoing through because he's lost his basketball.
But can we just be honest,Biden's lost his fastball. I don't know
how much he is going to beable to control that conversation. There is
something when it comes to inflation,and let's just talk about the economy in
general that I found to be aworld upside down. So when you think,
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but let me put this to Mark, Mark, you and I have
had lots of conversations about the politiciansand where we stand on that that sort
of thing. When when you thinkof fortune five hundred CEOs, and maybe
you saw this story, so youmay have a cheated oh yeah, but
when you think you did okay,when you think of Fortune five, just
playlong. When do you think offortune five hundred CEOs? Who do you
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think they are more likely to favor? Well, you would guess that they
would fail the Republican candidate, butit turns out they're not. They're not
the Fortune five hundred CEOs, orI guess it'd be the SMP five hundred
CEOs, right, Not the Fortunebut the SMP five. They actually made
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more money both physically and percentage onesunder BIP and they they have not come
out to support Trump. A numberof billionaires who are not necessarily CEOs but
are hedge funders, or they arejust sitting on a pile of cash like
Scrooge McDuck and allowing that cash tokeep growing. They're supporting Trump, right,
I mean, they want the lowertaxes and they want all this other
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stuff. But as far as thegrowth goes by the S and P five
hundred CEOs they took home after adjustingfor inflation between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty
two point three percent more two pointthree percent. That's I mean, that's
not even keeping up with inflation.I mean, that is a little bit.
It's two point three percent over inflation. They said, all right,
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under Biden when inflation was much higher, CEO pay rows almost nine percent more
than inflation. Riddle me that.I mean. The narratives are that Democrats
are they hate business, and theDemocrats are bad for business and all this
other stuff, or the Democrats aregoing to punish the wealthiest and this sort
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of thing. But they're making moremoney, so they're not really going to
jump on board with primp. Andfrankly, if you're a Democrat, you've
got to be looking at the statand thinking, what's Biden doing with these
guys. It doesn't follow conventional wisdessfair oh absolutely. It also comes on
the heels of sixteen Nobel economists pointingout that Trump's economic plan would plunge the
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country into a recession. Well,listen, he has made again some really
outlandish claims, right, and sothat you know, oh, we're going
to get rid of the income tax, and we're going to start paying everything
out out of the tariffs. Tariffs, whers wind up paying right, It's
not gonna happen. I mean,it's it's a very populous thing that you
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can throw around whenever people are like, what is the populas? And I
always think the populace is the guyat the end of the bar. That
kind of makes sense. But whenyou start diving deeper than his second drink,
you start to realize the numbers don'tadd on. Okay. Oftentimes populist
opinion is somebody spouting off, whydon't we just do this and this and
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this boot problem solved? You go, boy, things are a little more
complicated. So they were that easy, we wouldn't have the problem. So
I was I was looking at someof the things we expect to be said
tomorrow night. We'll find out obviouslyin our recap we'll find out if we
were right. But some of thethings we expect to hear tomorrow night at
the CNN Presidential debate starting at sixon cing atam. En simulcast On can't
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find some of the things that weexpect to hear and whether or not they're
they're true or they are tall tales. By the way, I think that
there's something like thirty fact checkers thatare gonna be hammering things out as quickly
as they possibly can while this codesin. They've already pre fact checked something.
It was my understanding that CNN's notgoing to fact check during the debate
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unless it comes to information about thetwenty twenty election, and they're gonna save
their fact checking for afterward. UnlessI got that wrong. Did I get
that wrong? No? No,I don't think you did. But The
New York Times will be fact checkingin real time, probably either on their
live feed or on their ex feedor whatever else it is. So you're
gonna have some fact checkers going inreal time. It just won't beat Jake
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Tapper feeling. Yeah, you gota multitask. You gotta have multiple screens
open at once, right, Butwe can pre fact check some of the
things we expect them to say,and we know what they're gonna say because
they've been saying it for the lastfew years. That's next. I'm Chris
merrill In from O Kelly. Iam six forty live everywhere in your iHeart
ready to app You're listening to Laterwith Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMS.
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So you can hear the CNN presidentialdebate tomorrow six pm on CNN and
then simulcast on KFI. Will havea recap right after the debate ends on
this show. There are a fewthings that we are expecting to hear because
some of the candidates have been sayingthese things on the campaign trail, and
they've already been fact ten and theyare is a Washington posted as the Pinocchios
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anywhere from one to five Pinocians.So, for instance, Trump keeps repeating
I had the biggest tax cut inhistory, but the tax cut in twenty
seventeen ranks is the eighth in thepast century. You had Biden. He
likes to say I cut the federaldeficit by over a trillion dollars, but
the post pandemic deficit already was supposedto go down. Biden's policies increased the
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debt. Trump is likely to pointat Biden and say he led in fifteen
million people over the border. Thatnumber would be five times higher than any
sort of other statistics. So fifteenmillion people. In fact, I had
somebody tell me that the other daytoo. They called me on my daytime
radio show and they said, bindingslighted eleven million people, And I thought,
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how many people do we how manyundocumented immigrants do we have in the
United States? I know what's goingon, but it used to be eleven
million was the total? Do youknow? Off top your head? And
the estimate that I keep seeing isit's between ten and on the high end
twenty million. Okay, so fifteenmillion a years probably not accurate. Right,
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let me see what Bington says.You're the one that uses bing Okay,
yeah, according to let's see,there are not twenty to thirty million
immigrants I immigrants living in the UnitedStates. When did this come out?
Oh? This is this is thisis two weeks ago. The most frequent
number has been eleven million, right, But I see references to up to
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twenty somebody said eleven million, Wellthat's Outdatedmber was ten years ago. We're
talking upwards at twenty twenty five,maybe thirty million. Evidently it's an auction.
There's been almost ten million people whohave had this country illegally in the
past three years. That according toMarco Rubia, immigration experts say no like
you were saying no. As ofJanuary twenty twenty two, they still believe
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that number to be eleven million,which is up from ten and a half
million in January twenty twenty. Soyeah, I don't think we're letting in
eleven million a year. May ofthis year, the Center for Immigration Studies
estimated at twelve point three, butthe Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated sixteen
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point eight. So yeah, that'scloser to the numbers. Quote. So
anyway, you're gonna hear a lotof that stuff. I gotta tell you,
there is one thing that I'm reallyhoping that we hear. I listen,
I mean the infotainment business. Okay, can we just can we call
it what it is? The moreentertaining this debate is, the better it
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is for views. Sianna knows thisclicks, listens, newspaper sales. The
more entertaining the debate is, becausewe're in a world of entertainment. If
these guys start talking policy, IfJoe Biden tries to make this debate boring.
I don't know if that would hurthim or help him. I really
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don't because if he makes it boring, he falls into the whole sleepy Joe
brand. If he talks policy andhe tries to keep this on a higher
level an actual debate about political policy, which is what debates are supposed to
be, He's going to come offas aloof out of touch, and Trump
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will slaughter him by just winning theentertainment fact, and I love the entertainment
aspect of it. Look from frommy standpoint, the more entertaining, the
more outrageous than it this is,the more content it creates for me.
And in the world of infotainment,we as consumers of media are drawn to
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the most entertaining stories. Some ofyou are very smart. You want cerebral
conversations, and I appreciate that.But there's a reason that PBS News Hour
is not rated anywhere close to TheBachelorette or Real Housewives of insert city here.
People love the drama. We wantto be entertained. So if this
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can turn into something really and ifthese guys come out, these guys come
out as both of them just dodderingfools, it'll be very entertaining. If
they both come out clicking out allcylinders, it'll be very entertaining. And
that's when Trump will say he's onmet right, And I'm all for it.
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Drug testing the candidates before these debates. I would love if CNN said,
we want to do a debate.Here are the rules. We'll meet
your mic. You'll have this amountof time. You're going to stand on
that side, You're going to standon this side. The breaks will be
at this time, and blah blahblah. I would love that. Oh,
and participants must be drug testing.I would love that because already we
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hear Trump is is basically trying tosay that if if Biden comes out and
surpasses expectations, which are he hasa pulse, then he must be cheating,
right, He's cheating, he's onstimulants. I would love if we
just drug testing them both. I'mall for it. They're both passed,
they're both in. That's it.Or we go the other way and we
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have mandatory stimulants. The mandatory stimulantsfor both participants would be great. Again,
I'm all for the entertainment value.Does that make for a better presidential
debate? Does that help us makeour decisions. No, of course not.
Let's be real, set a cablechannel. It's all about the entertainment
value. Was it last week thatTrump said he talked with Dana White from
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the UFC and suggested migrant combat.Yeah, yeah, you got I hope
he says that. Man. Ihope he says that tomorrow night. Also,
I hope they have all pies sowe can have a pie fight.
Oh, I'm all for it.God, if you if you really want
to go the entertainment route, doit. Like the scene cut from Doctor
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Strange Love, Doctor Strange, Ithought you were gonna pull a deep cut.
No, you went with everybody knowsDoctor Strangelove. So war you can't
have fighting in the war room.I'm all for it. Well for it,
all right. I'm Chris Marland fromo'kel a KF. I am six
forty. We are live everywhere.iHeartRadio AP News without the skew KF.
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I'm k ost HD two Los Angeles, Orange County Live everywhere on the radio.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
You can here the CNN presidential debate. It is tomorrow six pm on CNN
and simulcount on kfive. We willhave that. I was afraid that we
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were going to get into another Hollywoodstrike. It could have happened, but
it looks like we have avoided thestrike because this listen, who do we
have strikes? The directors didn't endup with a strike, right, but
they were. They had to negotiatethe writers struck and of course we had
a sag after struck. So thecrew members were not negotiating last year the
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crew member negotiations with this year thefilm and TV crew. This is the
Ayatzi Right, the International Alliance ofTheatrical Stage Employees and the Alliance of Motion
Picture and Television Producers go so Yaziand AMP TAP right. Resolution arrived before
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the current contracts expiration date, finallypermitting this is from the Times, finally
permitting industry to breathe a CYB reliefthe wake of two marathon strikes waged by
actors and screenviriners. Yatzi's Hollywood basicallyagreement spans three years covered some fifty thousand
crafts people primarily based in Los Angeleague. So they got a deal hammered down.
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This is great, and I meanthat this is great. Oftentimes when
you have negotiation, and it doesn'twe see this in sports all the time.
But oftentimes, when it comes tonegotiation, the first person gets the
worst deal by the time the lastperson signs. I'll give you an example.
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Let's suppose that. Let's suppose Markis looking for a new contract and
Mark goes in and he says,I'm demanding five hundred thousand dollars a year.
Meanwhile, I'm up for contract negotiationtoo, And they go, Chris,
we want to talk about a newcontract. And I go, oh,
you know what, I'm just gonnawait for a little bit. We
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don't want you to wait. Damn, I'm just gonna kind of sit tight
here. But listen, Chris,what if we just gave you seventy thousand
dollars a year. That's a lowball. I don't think that's gonna happen
when I know what Mark's asking.And so Mark says, I won five
hundred thousand dollars a year. AndI know, Mark, You're not going
to take a pay cut. Hand Twalla is looking at this and t
Walla says, oh, Mark's askingfor five hundred grand. All right,
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let's see what happens here. Theygo, Tula, we want to get
a contract with you, and hegoes, yeah, I'm go I sit
back too. So Mark negotiates.He gets in there. He's not gonna
get this five hundred thousand dollars ayear, but he does end up getting
three hundred thousand dollars a year.So now the company goes, okay,
well we signed Mark for three hundredthousand dollars a year. And then they
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go, Chris, we want tosign your contract and go okay, well,
listen, I know Mark got threehundred thousand dollars a year, and
look at that guy. I'm betterthan him. And if I walk,
what are you gonna do? Imean, I know what the market is
now, the market is more,so I want three to fifty. And
they go, oh, but ifwe give you two fifty, I'm not
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taking less than Mark. I'll takemy talents to somewhere else, and they
go okay, three fifty. Sota Wala comes in. They go,
Tallet, we sell have and hammeredout your contract. Tala goes, I
know what the market is. Theygo, we'll give you the same as
Mark. Twala goes, are youkidding way better than Mark? And they
go, well, are you asgood as Merrily? You go, listen,
you're gonna have to find somebody better. Are you gonna be able to
find somebody better? Not for lessthan your paint. So Tolla goes,
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four hundred or I walk and theygo, wow, you could walk,
sure, But the next person comingin knows what the rate is and it's
gonna be four hundred. Might aswell stick with me, and they go,
okay, four hundred. We seethis playout in sports all the time.
Two years ago, Patrick Mahomes,I don't know if you're familiar with
him. He plays for Taylor Swift'sboyfriend's team, Mark I wanted to make
reference. Yeah, the sport.Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah.
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So Patrick Mahomes signed this ten yeardeal and it was a massive deal.
He was going to be the highestpaid quarterback in professional sports. But he
signed for ten years and I'm tryingto remember how much he was at the
time. I don't remember the exactnumbers. I want to say he's four
hundred and fifty million dollars or tenyears something like that. This just to
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go with that number. It doesn'tmatter. If the cored to run and
people went, wow, he wasthe highest paid quarterback. That's incredible.
And I thought to myself, hemight be the highest paid quarterback now.
And good for him for getting adeal secured, because security is worth something.
A lot of people discount them.But he's this, he's got this
deal secured now, and he mightbe the highest paid quarterback. But lo
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and behold, he's not the topfive anymonger. We're just a couple of
years removed from that. He's notthe top five. I don't even know
if he's going to be in thetop ten because other quarterbacks who are certainly
not as good. No, listen, if you want to sign a great
quarter back, the going rate isforty five. I want forty eight.
So they signed one person at fortyeight and another guy goes forty eight.
You pick that guy's forty eight.Look at my stats are better? Do
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you want me? You're gonna haveto give me fifty fifty. Lamar Jackson
goes fifty. You paid fifty forthat guy. Good luck finding somebody better
than me for less than fifty three. All right, we'll give you fifty
three. So the last person tonegotiate usually gets the best deal. That's
the way it oftentimes works. It'sa little bit different when we talk about
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Hamed, but because what the screenwritersare asking for is different than what the
actors are asking for, is differentthan what the crew the Yanzi members are
asking So it's not exactly an applesto apples thing, right, that's not
necessarily apples to apples, But theconcept of negotiating translates across, and so
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you go, okay, So thestudios are opening up their money for the
writers. The writers got X,Y and Z, and then the actors.
The actors went, okay, yougive the writers something. That's great,
but if you want to put ona product, you're gonna have to
give us. Everybody says A,B and C, X, Y and
Z. Why not? And howcome nobody ever picks the middle of the
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alphabet. Okay, you gave theactors OP and Q. You know what
that means? We want JK andL. How does that sound? See
I just mixed up the alphabet theresounds a little bit like an STD to
be honest with you, all right, you want to STDs? All right?
Everybody get line, okay. Somy point is here is that the
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studios had to be very careful earlyon, and we knew that, which
is why the studios were negotiating sohard early on, because they know that
if they give in as some ofthese demands, that the next group negotiating
is gonna want these things. Theymight not be the same demands, but
there are going to be there's acertain level of expectation that you're gonna cave
on some things, right, Andthat's why the Actors Guild wanted to support
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the Writers Guild so much. That'swhy the unions came together to support one
another because they know that if they'rethe ones they have to give the next
time it is that their contract comesup, their union is going to have
to give. So they don't wantthe unions to have to give because they're
basically all negotiating against the same people, the studios. That's the comedy nominee,
right. So in the case ofthe unions, they knew that they
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wanted the unions to be the oneswho were back in their heavens. This
is great that we got this dealdone. Now, I'm a little surprised
that got done so quickly. I'mreally glad it got done quickly, and
I'm hoping that it means that thedeal gave the union exactly what they wanted.
They said that the deal contains awage scale increase of seven and a
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half percent over a three year term. A says an hourly workers are entitled
to triple time pay whenever the workdayis over fifteen hours. God, this
plump shoots. That is an effortby the union to dissuade employers from scheduling
these marechion marathon days. Can youimagine a fifteen hour shoot? What only
fifteen hours? Are you kidding me? I know, I know, Gohly,
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there's a You know, I wasthat I had a dream when I
was young to be to be inthe industry, and obviously I would I'm
not cut out for it. Butthen i'd start hearing some of these border
stories. Oh man, we wereshooting until twelve thirty. We had to
be back on seting four. Youknow, it just sounds a brutal.
I might have been able to pullthat off when I was younger, but
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I gotta have my I gotta haveminimum seven hours or I don't function.
I can start feeling it where nowby the end of the week, I
start feeling that sleep dead reaping.I just came in. So God,
bless you guys for being troopers.Fifteen out blush shoots. Oh God,
all right, that's it for there'sno business like show business. There is,
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Yeah, bless Yeah, how aboutwe have some fun with fantasy.
I love fantasy fun. That's next. Chris Merrill, I am six Sporting
from O Kelly Tonight Live everywhere inyour right Hurt Radio Web. You're listening
to Later with Moe Kelly on demandfrom h right. It is sometimes embarrassing
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for me to admit this, althoughit's getting a popularity. So sometimes you're
like the cool geek, Does thatmake sense? I love playing fantasy football,
and people that haven't played fantasy footballbefore are very judgment Oh, you're
such a loser. Non sports people. Go is such a loser sports people
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who are big fans of their hometeam. Like if you're a huge Rams
fan and you've never played fantasy sports, for you just losers, just geek.
Stuff's dungeons and dragons for sports people. Yeah, Okay, fine,
yeah, I mean, sure,call it fantasy, call it dungeons and
dragons before sports people. But youknow what, I love it. I
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love it in the same way thatsome people love Renaissance fairs. Good.
It's my thing. I'm a I'ma cool geek, and I'm proud of
it. And I saw a studythis week. I was talking about fantasy
sports players. If you're unfamiliar,let me give you a brief primer on
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this. So with fantasy sports,you don't follow a team. What you
do is you select players to follow, and if the players you select do
better than the players somebody else selects, you win. Okay. So that's
the that's the that's the nuts ofbolts up. Without getting too deep into
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it. You're not picking the thethe Rams versus Seahawks. You're picking one
guy from the Rams, one guyfrom the Seahawks, one guy from the
Patriots, one guy from the Bears, one guy from the Dolphins. And
however they do, however points,they score, many touchdowns, field goals,
tackles, whatever it is, whoeverhas the best group of people wins
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the contents. All right. Sothey did this study and they said that
people who play fantasy sports become passionate, obsessed, and it becomes a potential
source of both joy and anxiety.I agree with all that you become passionate,
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you get obsessed about it, youlove it, and you're very nervous
about it. The new study warnsthat the potentially troubling relationship between fantasy participation.
They did the study in the UK, so it's they were studying fantasy
soccer and mental health, suggesting thatthe more deeply players engage with the game,
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the more extreme their emotional experience hasbecome for better or for works,
so they're after the emotional extremes.It's again, if you haven't played it
before, you may not understand whypeople become so passionate about it. But
let me give you this. Withthe fantasy football, for instance, I'm
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in a league and it's a greatgroup of guys. We have ten guys
in our league and it is awonderful group of camarader We have people who
live here in Los Angeles. Wehave one guy that lives in San Diego
County. We have a number ofguys that live in the Kansas City area,
one guy Houston, one from Denver, one from Chicago, and we
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all get together every year. Weall fly to Las Vegas. We all
see each other once a year.We spend a weekend in Las Vegas,
and that's when we choose which playerswe want on our teams. Okay,
it is a wonderful male bonding experience. And we have been in this league.
I think this is our eleventh year. Some of the guys that were
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single when we started are now married. Some of the guys that were married
or now divorced. Some of theguys that were married or now divorced and
remarried we've been with. Some ofthe guys were unmarried and now they're married
and have a kid. We goto each other's weddings and things like that.
It is a wonderful, wonderful group. It is a it is a
it is a family unto itself,and I got to tell you it is
very very emotionally rewarding. Guys don'tguys won't say that, very odden,
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but it's a special group and wetalk to each other all year round.
So I'd love it. I relishit. It's one of the things,
one of the last things I everwant to give up. However, the
sport itself does become stressful, andthe same way that if you put money
doesn't even matter how much. Ifyou're gambling on a sport, now you
have a vested interests. Now it'snot just I hope my team wins.
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Now you have a vested interest,and for some reason, it flips a
switch, whatever the switch is inyour brain. You go from being a
casual fan and I hope my teamwins, to being frankly an insane fan,
to going you have to win thefightings on fantasy football, they're fantasy
soccer in this case, fantasy sportsvery similar, I would say to gambling.
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They don't draw that conclusion in thestudy, but they say that the
mental health impacts finds it players whoare most heavily invested in the fantasy sports
spending the most time managing their theirTheir players had the most financial stakes in
the game, They reported the highestlevels of a positive mood and the most
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significant mental health concerns. It's paradoxical, and it suggests that for many people
playing fantasy sports is what they sayis a double edged sword capable of producing
immense emotional hives along with potentially troublingloans. That is because when we lose.
It hurts when you win, youare overjoyed. You're trying to be
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humble and not rub it anybody's face, but then you post something online about
what a loser they are. Andthat's part of how guys bond. But
you do feel like it is sofrustrating. The thing is we know that
going in. In fact, Ileft, I was partic spending in three
different leaks. I left one leadthis year that I've been in for out
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of twelve or thirteen years, andI sent a message to the commissioner.
I said, I gotta bylo.The reason is I wasn't getting the highs
or the lows. It was justit had become a chore that would happened.
We didn't have the same bond,but this other group that is githered
in Las Vegas, Adams wasn't there. The fact is we want that stimulation,
we want those highs and lows,and if we're not getting the highs
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and lows, it's not worth thetime investment. I'm not getting the emotional
reward. It's not worth the timeinvestment. So while they say it may
be detrimental for your mental health,I would argue and maybe I'm rationalized,
but I would argue roller coasters mightnot be good for your mental health because
you are intentionally terrorizing your sun.You're giving yourself physical stimuli, and you're
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scaring yourse. We don't ride rollercoasters because they're boring. We don't ride
roller coasters because they're safe. Weride roller coasters because we want to feel
something. Sometimes that safe anxiety iswhat we crave in our lives. My
wife loves her moves, she lovesthe jump scare. She loves it,
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and that's because it gives her astimulation in her life. Same thing I
experienced with this, same excitement Ihave with this with fantasy sports. Yeah,
I get anxious, man. Iwouldn't trade it for anything, wouldn't
trade it for edy. All right, Chris maryl Am six forty we're live
everywhere near I hurt Riady Web,you're listening too. Later with Moe Kelly
(16:37):
on demand from KFI AM six fortyTomorrow, you can hear the CNN presidential
debate starting at six pm on CNNand then simulcast on KFI. Immediately following
the debate. We will have postdebate coverage and so we'll give this toila,
what is it we're supposed to doI don't know, twenty thirty minutes
or something of kind of the bestand the worst of what we just witnessed.
(17:02):
Is that the case. I thinkthat's I think that's how it's supposed
to kind like a recap. Yeah, yeah, of what we're or what
we're going to see essentially is there. But but we're not supposed to We're
not supposed to determine who we thoughtwant or lost. No, no,
no, yeah, I'm not verygood at that. No. Yeah,
it's just a recap of what wassaid. You think, you know,
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taking taking this was a strong moment, Hey, that one missed or whatever
it is, so make sure ittakes some diligent notes. I wonder if
there's going to be any moment whenone or both of them just kind of
wander along. Remember the last timethese guys debated. Trump would just kind
of leave the podium, start wanderingaround, and people were like, what
is he doing? And I thinkit was a power play. I think
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he was trying to throw Biden offhis game, but it just kind of
looked like he was dering. Butnow, over the course of the last
six months, we see Biden justrandomly meander at different places, and I
know his team always comes on saysno, he wasn't, but yeah,
there are times that you go,ok, yeah he was. Me and
me and producer Matt were talking aboutthat. Were just like remember when they
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both kind of had their moments.Yeah, but people don't want to call
each other's party out. But it'sjust like, yeah, it happened.
Yeah. Nobody wants to admit thatthere that their candidate could have done something
a little bit off right. Nobodywants to admit that there was any weakness
on the part of their candidate.So anyway, I'm looking at this and
I wonder, I wonder how muchof this debate. I know Trump is
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going to try to hammer this becausethis is his copy. Look, Trump
wrote down, wrote down that Goldenelevator eight no, nine years ago,
now right, he came down theGolden elevator, and he was kind of
he was the punchline. And thenhe started talking about build a wall,
make Mexico paint, build a wall, make Mexico paint for build a wall,
make Mexico pay for it. Andhe started he started making his entire
(18:52):
campaign about immigration, migration, immigration, imigration, immigration, and then they
would ask him other questions and he'dgo they would ask him at the economy
and say, of course I knowthe economy. I went to Wharton School.
Of course I know about this.And I don't even need to talk
about that because and he was,He's such a master of the brand.
When it comes to that debate tomorrow, I think that I think that Trump
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is going to be very good.This is my this is my prediction,
and we'll talk a little bit moreabout what we think both these guys are
probably going to say. But Ithink Trump is going to try to continue
to bring the conversation back to threethings, immigration, inflation, and crime.
I think these are the three winningtopics for the GOP candidate, and
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these are the three areas where Bidenhas the most vulnerability. I'll say that
Biden spent a lot of time preppingthis, and he's been prepping a camp
David, and I think I don'tknow until it happened, But rather than
allow Trump to put him on thedefensive on these vulnerable topics, I'm guessing,
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just guessing, but I'm guessing thatBiden is going to try to come
out on the offense and somehow tryto take the wind out of the argument
that that Trump has. It's toughto throw Trump off his game, and
Trump counterpunches really, really well.But we also we've had we've had nine
years now to see him. We'vehad nine years to see how he counterpunchends
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and at some point, at somepoint, even the greatest boxers, they
get challengers that start to figure outthe game, right, Mike Tyson,
somebody figuring a Buster Douglas figured himout. Muhammad Ali lost a few fights.
People started to figure him out right, start to figure out where are
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they the weekends? What are theydoing? When Muhammad Ali wrote the dope
we all win? What just happened? I don't think that. And then
listen, you can't rope a dopeagain? After them you used it,
that was your trick play you canyou can't do that again. I don't
know how much more Trump has inthe bag. On the other hand,
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I don't know how much Biden isgoing through because he's lost his basketball.
But can we just be honest,Biden's lost his fastball. I don't know
how much he is going to beable to control that conversation. There is
something when it comes to inflation,and let's just talk about the economy in
general that I found to be aworld upside down. So when you think,
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but let me put this to Mark, Mark, you and I have
had lots of conversations about the politiciansand where we stand on that that sort
of thing. When when you thinkof fortune five hundred CEOs, and maybe
you saw this story, so youmay have a cheated oh yeah, but
when you think you did okay,when you think of Fortune five, just
playlong. When do you think offortune five hundred CEOs? Who do you
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think they are more likely to favor? Well, you would guess that they
would fail the Republican candidate, butit turns out they're not. They're not
the Fortune five hundred CEOs, orI guess it'd be the SMP five hundred
CEOs, right, Not the Fortunebut the SMP five. They actually made
(22:15):
more money both physically and percentage onesunder BIP and they they have not come
out to support Trump. A numberof billionaires who are not necessarily CEOs but
are hedge funders, or they arejust sitting on a pile of cash like
Scrooge McDuck and allowing that cash tokeep growing. They're supporting Trump, right,
I mean, they want the lowertaxes and they want all this other
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stuff. But as far as thegrowth goes by the S and P five
hundred CEOs they took home after adjustingfor inflation between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty
two point three percent more two pointthree percent. That's I mean, that's
not even keeping up with inflation.I mean, that is a little bit.
It's two point three percent over inflation. They said, all right,
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under Biden when inflation was much higher, CEO pay rows almost nine percent more
than inflation. Riddle me that.I mean. The narratives are that Democrats
are they hate business, and theDemocrats are bad for business and all this
other stuff, or the Democrats aregoing to punish the wealthiest and this sort
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of thing. But they're making moremoney, so they're not really going to
jump on board with primp. Andfrankly, if you're a Democrat, you've
got to be looking at the statand thinking, what's Biden doing with these
guys. It doesn't follow conventional wisdessfair oh absolutely. It also comes on
the heels of sixteen Nobel economists pointingout that Trump's economic plan would plunge the
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country into a recession. Well,listen, he has made again some really
outlandish claims, right, and sothat you know, oh, we're going
to get rid of the income tax, and we're going to start paying everything
out out of the tariffs. Tariffs, whers wind up paying right, It's
not gonna happen. I mean,it's it's a very populous thing that you
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can throw around whenever people are like, what is the populas? And I
always think the populace is the guyat the end of the bar. That
kind of makes sense. But whenyou start diving deeper than his second drink,
you start to realize the numbers don'tadd on. Okay. Oftentimes populist
opinion is somebody spouting off, whydon't we just do this and this and
(24:29):
this boot problem solved? You go, boy, things are a little more
complicated. So they were that easy, we wouldn't have the problem. So
I was I was looking at someof the things we expect to be said
tomorrow night. We'll find out obviouslyin our recap we'll find out if we
were right. But some of thethings we expect to hear tomorrow night at
the CNN Presidential debate starting at sixon cing atam. En simulcast On can't
(24:53):
find some of the things that weexpect to hear and whether or not they're
they're true or they are tall tales. By the way, I think that
there's something like thirty fact checkers thatare gonna be hammering things out as quickly
as they possibly can while this codesin. They've already pre fact checked something.
It was my understanding that CNN's notgoing to fact check during the debate
(25:15):
unless it comes to information about thetwenty twenty election, and they're gonna save
their fact checking for afterward. UnlessI got that wrong. Did I get
that wrong? No? No,I don't think you did. But The
New York Times will be fact checkingin real time, probably either on their
live feed or on their ex feedor whatever else it is. So you're
gonna have some fact checkers going inreal time. It just won't beat Jake
(25:37):
Tapper feeling. Yeah, you gota multitask. You gotta have multiple screens
open at once, right, Butwe can pre fact check some of the
things we expect them to say,and we know what they're gonna say because
they've been saying it for the lastfew years. That's next. I'm Chris
merrill In from O Kelly. Iam six forty live everywhere in your iHeart
ready to app You're listening to Laterwith Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AMS.
(26:00):
So you can hear the CNN presidentialdebate tomorrow six pm on CNN and
then simulcast on KFI. Will havea recap right after the debate ends on
this show. There are a fewthings that we are expecting to hear because
some of the candidates have been sayingthese things on the campaign trail, and
they've already been fact ten and theyare is a Washington posted as the Pinocchios
(26:26):
anywhere from one to five Pinocians.So, for instance, Trump keeps repeating
I had the biggest tax cut inhistory, but the tax cut in twenty
seventeen ranks is the eighth in thepast century. You had Biden. He
likes to say I cut the federaldeficit by over a trillion dollars, but
the post pandemic deficit already was supposedto go down. Biden's policies increased the
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debt. Trump is likely to pointat Biden and say he led in fifteen
million people over the border. Thatnumber would be five times higher than any
sort of other statistics. So fifteenmillion people. In fact, I had
somebody tell me that the other daytoo. They called me on my daytime
radio show and they said, bindingslighted eleven million people, And I thought,
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how many people do we how manyundocumented immigrants do we have in the
United States? I know what's goingon, but it used to be eleven
million was the total? Do youknow? Off top your head? And
the estimate that I keep seeing isit's between ten and on the high end
twenty million. Okay, so fifteenmillion a years probably not accurate. Right,
(27:32):
let me see what Bington says.You're the one that uses bing Okay,
yeah, according to let's see,there are not twenty to thirty million
immigrants I immigrants living in the UnitedStates. When did this come out?
Oh? This is this is thisis two weeks ago. The most frequent
number has been eleven million, right, But I see references to up to
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twenty somebody said eleven million, Wellthat's Outdatedmber was ten years ago. We're
talking upwards at twenty twenty five,maybe thirty million. Evidently it's an auction.
There's been almost ten million people whohave had this country illegally in the
past three years. That according toMarco Rubia, immigration experts say no like
you were saying no. As ofJanuary twenty twenty two, they still believe
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that number to be eleven million,which is up from ten and a half
million in January twenty twenty. Soyeah, I don't think we're letting in
eleven million a year. May ofthis year, the Center for Immigration Studies
estimated at twelve point three, butthe Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated sixteen
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point eight. So yeah, that'scloser to the numbers. Quote. So
anyway, you're gonna hear a lotof that stuff. I gotta tell you,
there is one thing that I'm reallyhoping that we hear. I listen,
I mean the infotainment business. Okay, can we just can we call
it what it is? The moreentertaining this debate is, the better it
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is for views. Sianna knows thisclicks, listens, newspaper sales. The
more entertaining the debate is, becausewe're in a world of entertainment. If
these guys start talking policy, IfJoe Biden tries to make this debate boring.
I don't know if that would hurthim or help him. I really
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don't because if he makes it boring, he falls into the whole sleepy Joe
brand. If he talks policy andhe tries to keep this on a higher
level an actual debate about political policy, which is what debates are supposed to
be, He's going to come offas aloof out of touch, and Trump
(29:49):
will slaughter him by just winning theentertainment fact, and I love the entertainment
aspect of it. Look from frommy standpoint, the more entertaining, the
more outrageous than it this is,the more content it creates for me.
And in the world of infotainment,we as consumers of media are drawn to
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the most entertaining stories. Some ofyou are very smart. You want cerebral
conversations, and I appreciate that.But there's a reason that PBS News Hour
is not rated anywhere close to TheBachelorette or Real Housewives of insert city here.
People love the drama. We wantto be entertained. So if this
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can turn into something really and ifthese guys come out, these guys come
out as both of them just dodderingfools, it'll be very entertaining. If
they both come out clicking out allcylinders, it'll be very entertaining. And
that's when Trump will say he's onmet right, And I'm all for it.
(30:56):
Drug testing the candidates before these debates. I would love if CNN said,
we want to do a debate.Here are the rules. We'll meet
your mic. You'll have this amountof time. You're going to stand on
that side, You're going to standon this side. The breaks will be
at this time, and blah blahblah. I would love that. Oh,
and participants must be drug testing.I would love that because already we
(31:19):
hear Trump is is basically trying tosay that if if Biden comes out and
surpasses expectations, which are he hasa pulse, then he must be cheating,
right, He's cheating, he's onstimulants. I would love if we
just drug testing them both. I'mall for it. They're both passed,
they're both in. That's it.Or we go the other way and we
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have mandatory stimulants. The mandatory stimulantsfor both participants would be great. Again,
I'm all for the entertainment value.Does that make for a better presidential
debate? Does that help us makeour decisions. No, of course not.
Let's be real, set a cablechannel. It's all about the entertainment
value. Was it last week thatTrump said he talked with Dana White from
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the UFC and suggested migrant combat.Yeah, yeah, you got I hope
he says that. Man. Ihope he says that tomorrow night. Also,
I hope they have all pies sowe can have a pie fight.
Oh, I'm all for it.God, if you if you really want
to go the entertainment route, doit. Like the scene cut from Doctor
(32:28):
Strange Love, Doctor Strange, Ithought you were gonna pull a deep cut.
No, you went with everybody knowsDoctor Strangelove. So war you can't
have fighting in the war room.I'm all for it. Well for it,
all right. I'm Chris Marland fromo'kel a KF. I am six
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