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change without notice. That's disney Land, and you think of
Disney how there's a television aspect to it. There is
a movie aspect to all things Disney. But also with Mattel,
they seem to try to seemingly are in the process
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of trying to grow into that where Mattel had had
past tense a studio, a TV and movie studio, but
now Mattel is combining them into one entity. And you
think about Mattel, I think of Mattel as action figures.
I think of Mattel as maybe games and some properties
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that aren't you know, they're they're not movies. I don't
think of them in movies. And then you have a
movie like the Barbie movie. It's like, wow, you know
that's made something out of nothing. It's like, how can
you turn Barbie into a movie. And they're also going
to have a Masters of the Universe, which is going
to be a live action movie. There's supposed to be
a Hot Wheels movie, and I'm thinking like, well, Hot
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Wheels doesn't have any care characters, but they have the
magic right now and they might be able to turn
that into something. And they also have Fisher Price, American Girl, Matchbox,
Polly Pocket, and Uno. I hope they don't do an
Udo movie. I was just I hope not. How what
would applot to that possibly be?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't know what the plot would have been to Barbie.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I didn't know what the plot was going to be
for this Hot Wheels movie that they're supposed to have
in development. I don't know that could be like a
fast and furious type like live action maybe mean hot Wheels, Yeah, yeah,
not Uno, Yeah not so much. Yeah, credit where It's toe.
Barbie was shockingly intelligent and fun. I did not expect that.
That's what I'm saying. It's like shockingly and I saw.
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I was like, okay, I see what you're doing here.
And I had no desire to see it originally none.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Same, I hate it when we agree. Same.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
And then I said, Okay, there's a lot more depth
to this movie than I expected. Some of it, of course,
was on the nose, but a lot of it there
were layers to that story and movie.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It was making.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
A It was a social treatise in many ways, a
lot deeper than I expected.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Pretty on the nose, but sure didn't expect it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Now, No, no, But if anything, it opened me up
to the possibility of more things Mattel in a cinematic sense.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Can we get a Lincoln Logs movie? Please?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I would have seen that, would you you actually would?
Or an erector set? Not careful, I'm not that type
of erecting.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yes, did you have an erector set? Seven?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
No? I have no idea what that is I.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Know Lincoln oh my gosh, or okay, erector set is
the steel version of Lincoln Logs. Let me put it
that way. You can, you know, just google it. I mean,
I can't really explain that car the car director set.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I had an erector set.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
It was just I don't remember what it was originally
supposed to to create, but it was an erector set.
And I think I had Lincoln Logs or one of
my friends had Lincoln Longs. We played that as well.
But my point is all these things are apt to
be merchandised and turned into a movie property that they
have the IP, they're going to use it somehow. But
the other side of this is if and when it
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gets to the movie, what will that movie experience be like?
Because AMC Theaters, which is the largest movie theater business
out there, they have said publicly they're going to run
more advertising in its theaters. Heretofore, they supposedly had this
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opposition to have commercials which come right before the movie,
which is different from trailers. We're talking about actual commercials.
So in theory, in theory now, usually it takes about
for a big blockbuster movie. I don't know how many trailers,
but it usually takes about half an hour from when
the lights go down to the actual movie. You'll see trailers,
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you will see the local spots. You'll see an eminem spot.
Most likely there'll be something like don't talk in text,
and there's se Nicole Kidman.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
We come to AMC theaters to love, to cry. No
we don't to care.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
No we don't because we need that. No we can't
watch the movie.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
That indescribable feeling we get when the lights begin to
dim and.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
We go somewhere we've never been before. I'm staying right
my seat.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's entertained, but somehow we're born together, dazzling images on
a huge sound that I can.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Somehow heartbreak feels good in a.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Place like this.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Now I know why to divorce you feel like the
best part of Damn.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
You won't stop talking, perfect, empowerful, stop talking to whole.
They are.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
AMC Theaters.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
We make movies better. So I'm going to take issue
with that. I don't know if AMC is going to
make movies better. If I have to watch more commercials,
I feel like shooting themselves in the foot. As difficult
as it is to get butts and seats I get
why they're doing it. It's real estate and you want
to monetize whatever they can. This is another form of concessions,
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having nothing to do with the movie. They get to
the way to have another stream of income. Let me
explain this way. I want to tell you about the
first and only time I met Kim Kardashian. This is
a true story. Her father, Robert Kardashian, the late Robert Kardashian.
After the OJ case, he had this company called movie
Tunes and it worked with the different record companies where
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we would pay movie Tunes to have them feature our artists.
They play music in the background and say, now you're
listening to the new song from Eric Beney, spend my
life with you. We actually paid for that, and they
would play it in the movie theater prior to the
start of the movie, before you had this deluge of
all this other advertisement in filler.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I remember that, I totally. I don't know if that
was owned by him.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yes, it was a real company, and back then, pre digital,
we had to physically deliver the music to the company.
Back in I want to say this is I'm at
Warner brother So this is around year ninety nine, two thousand.
Kim Kardashian used to work the front desk as like
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the receptionist, the welcome person when you went into movie tunes,
and so I would take over the Warner Brothers records
stuff and we would hand it to Kim Kardashian. She's
you know, she's just Kim Kardashian. You know, her father
was more of a star obviously back then. Yeah, because
of post post OJ Yeah. So yeah, that's about the
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only time I met Kim Kardashian. And she wasn't Kim Kardashian.
She was just a cute young lady, just you know whatever.
She was attractive.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That was it.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
But the point I'm trying to make is movie theaters
have long tried to mind the ties the time before
the movie. This is the next iteration of that. But
the difference is now people have other options. You're just
gonna give me If you're gonna put two commercials in,
you're giving me two more reasons to stay my ass
at home. Am I gonna go to a movie at
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eleven forty five at night? And then instead of having
thirty minutes lead up to the movie, now it might
be forty minutes. No I'm not doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean, look, I would, but still this is problematic,
especially when theaters like AMZ have already invested in Newsy
or or moved that that whatever whatever that uh platform
is that runs all of those ads in trivia and
it's the young lady that you're watching such and such,
can you guess this and this and that, and then
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they show a commercial. I don't mind about it, but
it's not it's prior to trailers just when you're out
getting your kid. That's right. It's not a part of
that movie time. You're just sitting there watching. It might
be called movie time, but it's just you're just sitting
there chilling for it to start. What you're saying is
because I'm a captive audience, now you're going to be
able to show me these trailers and advance all I'll
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be commercials, not trailers in advance.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And they might insert the commercials in between the trailers. No, no, no,
because they have done that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I have seen a long set of trailers where they
went or where they went trailer trailer, commercial trailer, trailer,
commercial trailer, trailer called kidmid And that was a problem
cause I was like, are they actually inserting commercials in
between the actual trailers like this, like I'm watching a
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television show called trailer or something.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yes, and it goes to commercial break. Yes.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Well.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Part of the problem is that these are things we're
already paying for, whether it's going to a movie that
you paid for or say a streaming app, where you realize, hey,
that's a lot of commercials for something I'm paying a
monthly fee for, and you kind of sit there and wonder,
do they have to be pigs about absolutely everything? Is
there no such thing as enough? Answer is no.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
It used to be you pay the subscription, so you
did not have to watch the commercials.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
That was the trade off.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Huh, the broadcast television, you're not paying for it. What's
the trade offf you got to watch the commercials every
seven or eight minutes. Now we have to pay to
have fewer commercials. On streaming platforms, they're now tiers. You
can pay for the top tier and still have to
deal with commercials. I know on Amazon you get the
commercials at the beginning, at the beginning.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, no, it's not just at the beginning anymore. We
were watching a show called The Rig on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh, that's right, that we pay for.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We pay a monthly fee for Amazon Prime, and the
commercials are just onerous, and they're frequent and they're long.
It's like three minute breaks. Do you think we don't
remember that we're paying for this service now? It also
depends on which tier you're paying for. Gas Motor said,
if you're not paying for the highest tier where they
only insert the commercials at the beginning and end, you
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will get interrupted. Oh I don't even know. We're probably
on the riff white trash. Yeah, so that Mark said that.
Mark Runner said that I want to make sure you
got to be clearer. Stand if you're watching like Reacher
and they're throwing in multiple commercial breaks, you're not paying
for the highest tier.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay, we got to go break.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
When we come back, let's talk about porn Hub and
pulling out to France.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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I Am six forty is Later with Mo Kelly Live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. And we've talked about porn
Hub from time to time and a low the company
that owns porn hub, you porn and red Tube. See
what they did there, you porn red Tube. They're planning
to suspend service in France in protests of a new
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law that would require porn companies to verify the age
of visitors. Now, the deadline for porn sites to implement
this age verification is June seventh, but porn hub will
block users starting today. Websites will be required to verify
users age using a credit card or government issued ID document.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh didn't they try to do that here?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Well, it has on varying levels, like, for example, they
have age verification laws across nineteen different states here in America,
and that's Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska,
North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, and Virginia.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Those states require age verification. But that age verification is
just clicking the button saying I am eighteen. What you
just said is you now have to put in a
credit card right to register yourself, which is a whole
new thing.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Lawyer, government ID, which is like, you know, there's no
anonymity there, yeah, presently, And I have my personal laptop.
I didn't do this on a company laptop.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Careful.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I went to pornhub dot com. I'm actually on the
website right now in.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
The interest of news, and it reads this is an
adult website. The website contains age restricted materials, including nudity
and explicit depictions of sexual activity. By entering, you affirmed
that you are at least eighteen years of age or
the age of majority in the jurisdiction you were accessing
the website from, and you consent to viewing sexually explicit content.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
There are two options. One, I am eighteen or older
ter or I am under eighteen. Exit.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I'm going to push I am eighteen or over careful
and it immediately careful, boy, it's immediately explicit. Put it
that way. It didn't ask for verification, it just asks.
It's basically taking my.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Word for it.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Yeah, that hasn't changed since the nineties.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I look back in the night. I don't think they
even asked if I was eighteen. They just just said
come on in. But they say you must be eighteen, Yeah,
you must be eighteen. We're not asking. It's almost like, yeah,
you have to be twenty one to drink, but we're
not asking for your ID.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Come on in.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well, I think I think for those who peruse porn
hub and YouTube and earned a red tube and what's
the other one long tube? It's another tube. There's a
bunch of tubes that porn hub is connected to. And
I don't think pulling out of France means anything. France
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likes it and people in France like it, so you
don't have to pull out.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Are you? Are you blaming France for the skirt they
were wearing.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I'm no, no, no, no, I'm saying that for a porn
hub to penalize France and pulling out, that's just me.
It's not penalized.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
It's penalized.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Ever, mean, if they're pulling out, isn't it? Never mind, Look,
I think that porn hub, yes, using these these parameters,
I have no problem with it. If I have to
put up my credit card just as proof or my ID,
well damn it. If I like porn, I like porn.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What is the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
What's the problem here? Okay, here's the serious answer. I
don't like giving my credit card to anybody. I'm for verification,
not for let's say, for this free subscription for the
next six days, and then I have to hurt him
and canceled before it auto bills me. I am always
reticent to give out my credit card for anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But we give our credit card out for pizza.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Yeah, well, I'm actually purchasing something, not just to of
trust you may you may be purchasing something on porn hub.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oh no, I get that.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I get that, but I would rather be It'd be
an explicit transaction where either I'm signing up for the
website use of all of its features and everything for
pre determined amount of time, you know, one week or
three weeks full access, as opposed to you're supposedly verifying
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my age.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I don't like that we give out our credit cards
for pizza, But what percentage of porn hub content would
you say involves a pizza delivery man? I mean that's
almost half of the content without pizza delivery and porn hub.
I mean it's it's not an app without at least
a pizza delivery girl, a pizza delivery guy sometimes io
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with pizza delivery van that has to stop and help
them deliver the pizza. There's all type of pizza delivery
in porn hub, MILF, pizza delivery, dilfu pizza delivery, college
pizza delivery. It sounds like there's a whole there's all
there are felled pizza deliveries. Oh no, what am I
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gonna do? How am I gonna pay for the They're
gonna take it out.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Of my check?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
No, but I seem a point because it's like you're
when you for pizza, we're not You're not saving it anywhere.
You're just making the purchase and you're putting it back. Hey,
you don't save it. You don't take a slice home?
What are you talking about there? As far as saving
my information? Oh, if I'm going to give you my information,
it is for purchases only. It is not for verifying identity.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, but like you say, you could also just be
your driver's license, right, so you can also put up
your id ID or don't watch the porn. I mean,
then let there we go, let other end of it.
But I promise you this porn Hub's viewership is not
going anywhere. There's too much porn on porn hub for
it to just be like oh wow, I'm not gonna
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put that up. You know how people right now are like,
oh thanks for the information, Moe, let me go on
real quick and update my porn hub viewership.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I'm old enough to remember when you actually had to
pay for pornography pre internet. Oh yeah, well yeah, obviously
horrible pre Internet. Now it's free pretty much, yep, very levels.
You can find it anywhere everywhere, pretty much, so I'm told.
So you're saying you missed the old days when you
had to walk into a store and bring the magazines
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up to a clerk. No, no, no, I'm talking about
the days where you walk into just a video store
and you had to walk into that back section where
they had to beat the doors.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You you can't even you can't be slidey.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I worked at one of those in grad school, and
you better believe I never let anybody off easy when
they came to the counter with a copy of Hannah
does her Sister?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, Debbie does Dallas? Do we have another copy of
that in the back?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Or or or you you There has been occasion, so
I've heard, where they will say loud things like what
you're looking for to.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Draw all sorts of.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know, and and and be holding it up in
front of you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Look just the one you want to.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Number seven, Yeah, pumping Irene a classic embarrassing. And it's
funny because you had two guys of guys that would
walk out of there, some that would like hang their head,
and some were just had no kind of embarrassment.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I admired that by the way, Oh, I walked out proud.
You knew what I was in there for. Don't be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The best time I had two of my roommates worked
at this store called Hollywood Video m I remember that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I remember that, and it was on Venice, somewhere on Venice.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
So we were spending all time in there, and we
had run of the store, you know, and when you're
in your early twenties, like why not? So we had
like a porn stash, like I'll say, thirty forty VHS
tapes high.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
It was.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It was not the conversation starter you thought when we
would bring women home. Okay, there are three of us
living together, It's like, why do you have so many pornos? No,
they have a strange lack of appreciation for that. I
don't get that it's weird. I mean, yes, if it's
very natural. I've had plenty of.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Relationships where there are women who did appreciate the porn
and that's part of what attracted me to them, Like, oh,
what tell me your your porn collection, your freak matches
my free Yes, I mean at the very least they
should appreciate all the porn parody titles of real movies,
like you have a copy of flash Pants.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's impressive. Yeah, I remember those one it was called
star W H O R E.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
S Okay. I mean there were a bunch of them. No,
there are lots of those. Yeah, there are lots of those.
They did a Justice League one not long ago where
it was Justice League something Justice just Us like just
Us League United, and it was like all of the
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male members of Justice League had to take on wonder
woman male members. Yes, we got to go to the
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Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and if you're just
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The tendedy to some family good stuff, good stuff. We'll
be back with it tomorrow. Just to let you know
and also if you're just tuning. In last segment, we
were talking about porn Hub, how it was their word
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pulling out of France because of France requiring age verification
for their numerous websites. When I say numerous websites, it's
not just porn Hub, but you porn and red Tube.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Most of these.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Sites, from what I'm told, are largely free. In other words,
you can log on to them and browse much of
their free content, but there are tiers you can pay
for this or that and the other. Maybe I'm not
exactly sure. Maybe you get the full extended scene. Maybe yeah,
as opposed to the two minute clip. Yeah, I don't
know firsthand. But tonight, for the first time of my life,
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I went to pornhub dot com on my laptop.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I wasn't going to do it on my.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Work computer because you know, we could have a misunderstanding
that way. But it didn't ask for any stringent age
verification for me. It's just click here. If you're eighteen
or over, yeah, click there. If you're eighteen. If you're under.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Eighteen, yeah, as if you're clicking the under eighteen. I
don't know why they put that that's a silly button
to put it, because if that's the only thing stopping Yeah,
I'm eighteen every time. I don't care how old I am.
I'm always eighteen.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And I don't know how that absolves porn Hub in
its parent company of any type of responsibility or liability,
But I guess it's enough in states like California, which
is not, by law required a more stringent form of
age verification.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Well, I think in some of these other states, especially
within the Bible Belt and across, you know, probably in
the Deep South, where even though porn Hub maybe the
number one watched platform streaming platform in a lot of
these states, you know, they they want to appear that
they're that they're holier than now, so they say, ah,
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you cannot consume porn if you're under eighteens. That's why
they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, here you go, age verification,
porn cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
This.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
This is something I want to make a connection in
comparison to TikTok. Remember the whole talk about banning TikTok,
and I said, you really can't ban it. All you
can do is make sure the app is not available
in the Apple App Store or the Google Play Store.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
But you can't ban it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
And also if you go to the website for TikTok,
you can still use the web version and it probably
offices an office offers a download version of the app.
Porn Hub is the number one website in the world,
the world, yeah, the world, and it's number one without
the assistance of an app in the App Store or
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the Google Play Store. So in effect, porn hub is
banned in America. If you compare it to what was
proposed as a TikTok band, porn Hub is steal the
number one in the world, and it's not going anywhere.
And even though we say it's pulling out of France,
it really doesn't mean anything for porn Hub. It's still
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going to be the number one website in the world.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It's almost like they're just giving lip service like that
doesn't then pulling out it doesn't mean anything. No, like
they're just they're talking on the side of their neck. Oh,
I thought you meant something. Sometimes I'm sorry they're talking
out the side of their neck with this pulling out conversation.
Because you don't have to get you don't have to
go on to that. In France, I'm sure they have
whatever search engine they got, Firefox, fire Fox, Safari, Google,
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whatever they got. You just go there and you go
to your hitting brow. Gotta make sure you go to
your hitten browser or VPN doesn't hurt either.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
VP.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Look, VPN to really protect yourself, why not? I like
that just as well. But you go to the incognito
mode and yeah, look, I'm not going onto the porn
hub app. I just dial up porn Hub and I
click that button right there, and I am eighteen all
the way in and whoa, this is what they're doing
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on porn Hub. I've never seen such ludicrous things. Well, yes,
it's almost like it hits you in the face, just
like all over your face. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
When we come back, we're going to check in with
George Nori and see what's going on with him. And
I hear that it's a very special day, so we'll
talk about that with him. And also I have my
final thought, and it has to do with ice and warrants.
Not ice as in cold in your freezer, but ice
as in immigration.
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Speaker 4 (26:13):
I'm fine, mister Kelly. For the first couple hours, you're
going to talk about ancient civilizations. Then everybody's invited to
my birthday.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yes, happy birthday, George Norri, twenty five years old today,
times ten.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I don't think you're two fifty. I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Thanks, you're looking forward to it? Yes, yes, I want
to join in the festivities. Come on by all right,
then see you so.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
And to close out for my final thought, he goes
a little something like this.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
A number of reputable media outlets have reported that ICE
agents have been ordered ordered to arrest more would be
immigration officers offenders even without warrants.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And you heard that right, even without warrants.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I say, would be because we've already crossed the rubicon,
as they say, as it relates to due process, it's
clear you could be arrested and deported to a country
not of your origin and to a prison without having
committed a criminal offense. And I'll explain that just a second,
and all that could be done without receiving any due
process along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Here is the law, not my opinion.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Undocumented presence in the US without proper authorization is a
civil violation, as our littering, speeding, and the like. But
those undocumented individuals in the US without proper authorization may
also be subject to a fine, but cannot be charged
with a criminal offense solely for being present without authorization.
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That's per federal law, not my opinion. Merely being in
this country illegally is not a criminal offense. For example,
you could overstay your visa. That's not criminal. The Supreme
Court recently granted Trump administration the power to revoke the
humanitarian parole status of people from including, yet not limited to, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Sudan,
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and Haiti. This means that someone's legal status can now
change overnight, but there is no breaking of the law here,
no criminal offense committed. It just means that those individuals
no longer enjoy protected status and can be removed. No
crime has been committed and should not be subject to arrest,
not by law at least.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Here's where it becomes criminal.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It becomes a criminal offense if you're found to have
illegally entered originally or re entered the country after deportation.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That's a violation of federal law.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
First time offense can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending
on the specific circumstances.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But how do you know someone entered illegally?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
That requires due process?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Like how does one know that someone actually violated a
speeding law or a literally law?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Due process? They are inextricably linked.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
The only way one could determine if someone is either
unlawfully in the country or as over state a visa
I documented humanitarian parole, or illegally entered the country is
by due process.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Period.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
You don't get to just look at someone and say, oh,
Mark Roner looked like he just walked across the border
unless you are actually at the border while it's happening,
and even then there's still a form of due process.
Why am I talking about all this? Well, let me
go back to the top and tell you one more time.
The latest news, The Guardian and other reputable media outlets
have reported that ICE agents have been ordered to arrest
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more would be immigration offenders, even without warrants to specifically
order ICE agents to arrest, which means criminal behavior. To
arrest people without warrants is to instruct ice agents to
break the law, not my law, the law. Remember this
country is supposedly law and order. Here's what the law
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says about immigration, arrests and warrants. Ice officers can make
arrests without a warrant, but it must be in public spaces.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
In private spaces, they are required by law to.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Produce a signed judicial warrant or be given homeowner consent
to enter a home or private area to arrest someone.
To specifically instruct ice officers to make these arrests even
without warrants or criminal conduct, that's the key phrase, is
to instruct them to wholly disregard the law and violate
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private spaces. Now, if you're okay with that, it's only
because you think it won't happen to you or it
applies not to you. And if that's the case, you
need to stop lying about how important law and order
or the constitution is supposedly, because neither actually is at
this point. The Constitution doesn't only apply to people you like,
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the people who vote your way.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
And we've covered this before.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You should remember the Constitution and its protections cover all
persons within the borders of this country. Not only citizens,
stop telling that lie otherwise. The only time it doesn't
is when martial law has been lawfully declared, and as
of yet, we're not under martial law.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Maybe by next month, but not yet. At least.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
One of the emails from ICE's Acting Executive Associate Director
of ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations long ass title, his
name is Marcus Charles. He instructed ICE officials to even
go after people they may coincidentally encounter.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Collaterals are the people ICE.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Agents may encounter when affecting an arrest of a particular person.
You know. That could be family members, that could be friends,
It could be just folks hanging around the location of
an encounter. Quote here's from the email. All collateral encounters
need to be interviewed and anyone that is found to
be a minimal to removal needs to be a RAS.
Did we need to turn up the creative knob up
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to eleven and push the envelope close?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Quote the email said, needs to be arrested.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Despite what I just told you about the law about
mere undocumented presence not being a criminal offense.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
That would be like arresting people for littering.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That would be like arresting people for speeding parking violations.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
No exaggeration.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Either this is about upholding law or it's about disregarding
it when politically expedient.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's one or the other, you know how. I always
say that there is no in between.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Either humanitarian parole status matters or it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
It can't be only for fifty.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Nine Afra connors from South Africa, but not the Sudanese,
where there is an actual and ongoing civil war which
is murdered more than one hundred and fifty thousand people.
I tell you we are an unserious nation. But despite that,
here's the larger question. Does the federal law only serve
as a suggestion? Is it for guidance sake? Is it
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for shits and giggles?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I need to know. I hate the sound Shakespearean, but
that is the question.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And it's also a rhetorical one because warrantless arrest here
be outside the boundaries of the law are both unconstitutional
and Unamerican, and I would be remiss. I'm going to
get ready to go there if I didn't already acknowledge
that the targeted revocation of humanitarian parole status of only
Central American, of only South American, of only indigenous African
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nations is nakedly indefensible. It also only confirms this is
not about who is illegally here in the country, because
all of those humanitarian paroles I just told you about,
they were here legally. The status of humanitarian parole is
not to be confused with criminal parole. It is a
discretionary decision made by the US governor government that allows
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a non citizen non citizen to enter the US even
if they are otherwise inadmissible due to urgent humanitarian reasons
or significant public benefit. Humanitarian paroles were here legally in
this country. Revoking their statusies is only about removing who
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you don't want in the country, irrespective of them actually
following the law to get here.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh and almost forgot. I don't know if you caught
the news today.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
The Trump administration announced the travel band today, preventing travel
into the US from twelve countries. Ask me where those
twelve countries are? Ask me, ask me where are those
twelve countries? I know, I know it's America and Afra. Connors. First,
I'm clear and I said what I said for KFI
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