The Most Rodent-Infested US Cities, Costco Living & Diddy’s Indictment

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Kfi Mo Kelly, we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And many months ago we told you that there was
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want to remind you we called that this was going
to happen. We'll get into the Diddy allegations before the

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hour is over. We'll tell you about the most rodent
infested cities in America. And you know, with us, if
we got a countdown, that means there's probably a California connection.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
And groundbreaking for a costco here in La what.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We better ask Mark Ronner about that because he's the
only one in the studio who has a Costco.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I D that's hard to believe. Elmar, do you have
a Costco ID? No, but I want one?

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, okay, so we're gonna have to use Marks. We
all look like Mark. They won't know. Yeah, nobody could
tell the difference.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
And also, wait, wait wait wait wait mo mo momo,
you missed the biggest part about the Costco story. It's
not the groundbreaking of a costco. It's the groundbreaking of
a costco apartment living complex.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well yeah, yeah, it's it's working play.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
It's working play, but it's a Costco apartment, so you
can live and shop and play at Costco.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Mark, Mark, go down stairs, get a hot dog. You're good?

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, Mark, you might want to look into that. Yeah,
what if I got to lose? Yeah, your life will
tell you where it's located. You walked into that one,
hey now.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
But most importantly, you know how last week we had
this severe heat index and people were fallen out because
of heat exhaustion and heat stroke. Well that's not the
case anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, that's they're gonna spit on these days.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
The forecast calls for Hawk to oh boy, yeah, about
to gloss.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
On right, Mark is gonna cool off tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, well there's about a thirty percent chance that will
get rained. Wait, wait a second, sorry, twenty percent chance
of rain tomorrow and a thirty percent chance of rain Thursday.
Any particular area region, just all of a suddenn California,
just everywhere, Yes, don't. I don't have more specific conformation,
just wherever you are. You got a chance of rain tomorrow,

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just holistically rain.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't like rain, but I'll accept it on this
occasion because it's been pretty hot as of late. And Mark,
you get your chance to flip off people with the
rain because California drivers cannot drive at all.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't look forward to that. You think I derive
some joy from that? And yes, you do? You said
you do.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
No, you said you love flipping a double bird.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's my civic duty.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I feel like I'm stepping up to the plate and
doing something that's important for society, and I take no
pleasure in it. Sure, somebody's driving dangerously and obnoxiously, they
need to be notified, and that's the quickest and most
efficient way to do it.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
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Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's like, mo, what are you talking about? Why do
you keep teasing this?

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, we're putting the finishing touches on something very special
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Speaker 3 (04:03):
You might want might not. I mean, who knows, But.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'm just saying, if you want the opportunity, it would
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Speaker 3 (04:12):
If you're breaking out, behoove you know it's serious.

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Speaker 5 (04:34):
You think so, twala, you think it's about damn time
we do something this big.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yes, it's for the people.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, Mark, I don't know if you're invited, but I'll
see what I can do that.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
You're going to say you didn't know if I was
a person. No, No, I know you're not a person.
You're an automaton, just like a Disneyland. That's illogical of
you to say that. I should point that out, all right, Well,
at least I didn't call you a rodent or anything
like that. I know that'd be too far, and I
know you respect me too much to say anything that's filthy.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I would not say that.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
But when we come back, we will tell you about
the most rodent infested cities in America and whether any
of them or all of them are here right in California.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
That's next you're listening to later with Moe Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Fortunately, or at least knock on Wood, haven't had to
deal with rodents at my house. Fortunately, you know, hopefully
that doesn't change anytime soon. My wife used to work
for this company called Eco Lab, and she would go
around to different restaurants and businesses and talking about, hey,
you need to do this to make sure that you
don't have a rodent infestation. This is to look out

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for You can't have this pan down on the ground
because it's accessible to rodents and vermin So I've learned
a lot through her, So I see these stories like,
oh yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Terminis looked into which of its three hundred branches Despatch
the most rodent control services last year twenty twenty three,
and you might guess that there may be some California
cities on this list. They have the top fifteen. We'll
just do the top ten. Do you have any guests?

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Mark Runner, who's number one? For rats, rats, rodents.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, I think I should recuse myself because Conway mentioned
it before you came on. Oh, okay, it's not what
I would have expected, though I would have expected Chicago.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, what that means?

Speaker 7 (06:33):
You know?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Then?

Speaker 7 (06:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I know?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Okay, all right, Well let's start with number ten.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Atlanta, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
For nothing but rats like an old sweet song.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yep, rats everywhere. How about number.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Nine, Dallas Fort Worth.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I could see that. Don't know what to make of that.
I could see that.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I didn't see it because I thought it'd just being
a dry environment, which wouldn't be as conducive to certain
rat That weather part fire for rats really.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Lots of restaurants, lots of restaurants that cook outside, like
grill type restaurants.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Lots of rodents. All right, big ones too.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Number eight, I parked my car.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I can't do it, heart, I can't do a Boston
accent mark. Can you do a Boston accent? I'm not sober.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
No, that's their secret too, Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Number eight Boston, Number seven Houston, Texas. Well, you got Dallas,
you might as well have Houston. Have you ever been
to New York Mark, I have. Yeah, have you been
to the street which is spelled h O U S
t O N Houston? Yeah, no, they call it Houston,

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and in New York it's Houston. In Texas well, you know, Uh,
diversity is our strength or something like that.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
But I'll tell you this.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
I have read James Herbert's The Rats Trilogy, so I
feel like I've got some expertise to bring to the
table here.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, way too much time.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
It's about giant, two foot mutant rats who swarm people
and eat them alive. It's terrific. It sounds like a
great You can mock it all you want, but that's
some fine adult literature. I am mocking.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Number six.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Chicago Town Chyrack, chyrat easy chira chirat chyrac.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Chicago's more rats than people. Damn.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Just vitriol tonight. Don't blame me for telling you the truth.
Number five the Nation's Capital, Washington, d C. Absolutely, without
a doubt.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Nere does the day go by where you walk outside
and you don't see like a rat, dead rat on
the pavement. You'll find rats there, not even a metaphor, No, no,
not at all, not at all. They got the two
legged rats. They have the four legged rats, rats everywhere.
Number four.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
The city of Brotherly Rodents, Philadelphia comes.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
In at number four. I can see that, man, Yeah,
I could see.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You know, big cities, dense populations, a lot of food,
yeah yeah, ratty, yeah, very ratty, a lot of exposed
trash yep. Coming in at number three.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I love LA.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
But the difference is with LA as opposed to a
Chicago or a Philadelphia or Washington DC. LA is so
spread out it's not going to have the same impact
as if you were in those one of those tightly those.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Dense populated cities.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
I thought you were going to say the rats had
nicer skin, No, have nicer assets, What are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I literally look, I'm surprised Bourbank isn't higher on this list,
if only because there isn't a night that passes that
I'm not walking out of here late and the rustle
of rats is happening in the bushes downstairs. No really, well, girls,
but not at night. Squirrels that no, these aren't squirrels

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at night. And those bushes down there, those are rats.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Good serve well. But the thing is Bourbank. It only
has a population.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I don't know, like one hundred thousand or so, so
they're not going to have as many calls per capit
as you would Chicago or La or.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Coming in at number two.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
San Francisco and Oakland and San Jose, that's kind of unfair.
They've lumped them all together. It's not like they're one city,
but it's one big rat mecca mecca. They love it Ratopolis.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
At San Francisco, the rats were out and coming in
at number one.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
No big surprise. The Big Apple New York City. They're
world renowned for the size of the rats, the number
of rats, I would say, the anger of the rats,
the criminality of the rats. Pizza Rats their mascot, isn't it,
Yes it is, Yes, it is.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
Ever since I grew up in the Bronx, I grew
up in New York, so my childhood was just filled
with a lot of rats. Growing up so desensitized to them.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You would see them everywhere all the time.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
Yeah, Like when I went to bed, it's like they
knew we all went to bed, and they come out
at night and they're like, okay, they're sleeping. You'd hear
them and I'd put my leg up because because they'd
like they brush up against you.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
They were fearless. Damn Elbert Dale, there were pets. Do
you need to hug Elmer? I feel like.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I thought you were gonna say, like you can feel
them like scurry past the window.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
No.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah, I mean they're not scared of you either. No,
not at all, not at all. Now have you ever
had to fight a rat?

Speaker 7 (12:41):
Yeah? Or we had a lot of rat traps, so
like they get stuck but they're still alive. You have
to pick them up and they're like wiggling off. And
this one time, this one rat escaped as I had
them off, and like I just ran for dear life.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
At my last job, radio job, we had a rat
infestation and they were in the walls. We had these
glue traps and they would get stuck on the glue trap,
starve to death whatever and die. But then they would
die in the walls and they would start decomposing. It's
a smell you will never forget.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, I know the smell very well.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, because it's unmistakable and unfortunate with them.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
In my first house when I used to live.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Like ninety second in Western we had mice and rat problem,
but we had the old school rat traps with which
was he actually had the cheese on it and the
spring load and the little Warner brothers and people don't
know those were real rodent traps. Did they actually say
act me on them?

Speaker 3 (13:47):
I don't know, but my mother would.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Let me get too close to them seriously because they
were dangerous to kids.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
And I was a very young kid.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
And you would hear them just go off in the
middle night, go smack and snap their neck or whatever,
because would catch them in that trap, and you know,
then my father would get up and go dispose of them.
But yeah, we had actual mice and right rat traps
with the spring load you put the actual cheese or bait.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
On it and would snap their necks.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
I feel like that's more human than the sticky traps
because at least they died instantly, like half the times
I'd find them still alive, just kind of like crash.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying that.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Saying that, I can tell you that if you got kids,
HP Lovecrafts. The Rats in the Walls makes for some
great bed You have a literary reference for every damn thing.
Great bedtime reading for a child. Your mind is so surreal, man,
I love it.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I love it. You're mocking again, But I'm serious.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
I look seriously, you're just being able to call upon
such lurid, disturbed references.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
It's not disturbed. Listen to me. This is this is serious.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
When I was a child, I had an LP recording
of David McCallum eating the rats in the walls and
I used to put it on to go to bed,
said David mccollin's and like, n cis David McCown Yeah, yeah,
it was. It was a terrific he did what back
in the day we're audio books on records.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I didn't No, I did not know that he did
audiobooks or voice work like that.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, I just rem as an actor and you can
find that on YouTube too. But you listen to that
to go to bed, Yeah yeah, down in the basement
in my grandparents place.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
It was terrific. Both of you need a hug. You
love horrible.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
It's like I couldn't even watch Night Gallery at night
as a kid. Really, yeah, you're the one who needs
a hug.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Look all that stuff. It would interrupt my sleep. No,
I would get nightmares. No, sir, well we can't have that.
It's later with mo Kelly. We're gonna go to Costco
and get a hot dog when we come back.

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Speaker 3 (16:02):
My wife goes to Costco. It's not the same one.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
It could be the one in the Torrents area, could
be the one in like the Elsagondo area that got one.
I think in the Inglewood area. She may hit them
all looking for whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
And it depends if she's going for food or gas,
because usually it's never both at the same time. For
some reason, she's willing to get in that long ass
line and wait for some moderately discounted gas.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
The lines move fast, yeah, but I've been in the
car with her. Sometimes take fifteen twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
Really, yeah, it never takes that long for me, even
if the line's all the way out to the street.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Golly, I don't know how you do it.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
And then then there are other times where she'll wait
in the line to get her car washed.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Some have car washes and everything. I haven't done that.
Why bother, That's my point. Why bother? Why bother.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
But some people are willing to bother so much so
they've been begging to have a costco in their neighborhood.
And the first ever costco to say South La is coming.
They just broke ground on it. And it will be
a dual use where it has the Costco at the
base and also eight hundred new apartments eight hundred, eight

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one hundred.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's like something out of Judge Dread. Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
No, It's more like something out of New Jack City.
It's the Carter Apartments. Okay, i'amiliar with that movie, all right? Yeah,
eight hundred And it's going to be at the intersections
of Librea and Colisseum. If I'm not mistaken, that's the
Jungle Libre in Coliseum.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And it's going to be done by Thrive Living, the
real estate company behind the project. And it's going to
be mixed us. As I said, five acre commercial lot,
and twenty three percent or one hundred and eighty four
of the eight hundred apartment units would be set aside
for low income households. Now, if I were at a
different point in my life, Let's say I was in

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my twenties or so, and I had the opportunity to
live in a complex like this, where you had a
costco or a grocery store or something like that at
its base, I would jump at the opportunity.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
You got a whole foods with apartments right across the
street from us.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
It's a different price point. It's a slightly different price point.
We talked about that off air.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
You know there's a lot of eye candy in there,
but it's a different price point from the apartments to
even the food. The costco is a lower price point,
and obviously there's going to be the units have to
be more moderately priced given the area that it's going
to be placed. But if I were younger, yeah, I

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would consider something like that because you have to take
into account that you don't have to spend money trying
to drive to the local grocery store.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And here's something else, and here's the serious point. In
South l A, largely there's a food desert, and that's
terminology for there's not a lot of grocery stores. There's
small markets like you may have a meat market or
bodega style market, I know when you know about that,
but the supermarkets, you don't see a lot of them.
You get the occasional food for less, the occasional raups,

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occasional super ario order. But you don't get the Albertsons,
you don't get the Pavilions. You definitely don't get the Gelsons.
Maybe you're lucky, you might get a Von's, but they're
few and far between. There really spread out.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
So when you have something like Costco, which is a
giant all by itself, and you put it in a
place which is near a lot of housing, that helps
a lot of people who may not have consistent or
dependable transportation, and you can do the shopping and literally
go upstairs. I mean literally because all the times that

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I lived, well, the closest I ever lived to a
grocery store. I lived at the corner of Coldwater Canyon
and Victora Boulevard, right next to the Sportsman's Lodge when
it was still there. Cat a corner was a Ralph's Supermarket.
I know they're else you're to talking about. Isn't that
also near a what's that taco place? Never mind, I

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don't know because it's changed so much since I've been there. Yeah,
but I would walk to that grocery store and you
could take the cart just about to my apartment building
before the wheels would lock up just about I know
this because I stole a cart and used it to
move out of that apartment building when I finally left. Well,
the statute of limitations is probably over. I want to

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know if the apartments above the Costco are going to
be as no frills as the Costco itself. Is it
just like all wood palettes and some like guerrilla racks
slapped up in there. Yeah, it doesn't say, But it's
actually it's a legitimate question more than it is a joke,
because if you think about the location and you think

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about the economic.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
The area of what you're pulling from. Yes, one hundred
and eighty four units are supposed to be for low income,
but in general that area is not economically well to do.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
If you get a visitor or deliveried, does the concierge
just shout at you.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
No, Mark thinks he's funny. He's not that funny.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
No, he's not that Oh, this is documentary evidence here
that I'm presenting. Now.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm actually kind of jealous.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
If I lived in the area, I would want something
like that, if only because Costco you can get a
little bit of everything or a lot of bit of everything. Honestly,
if you want to buy in bulk and you don't
have to struggle with just trying to get it upstairs,
you could probably take one of their cards to the
elevator and unload it. No, I would actually dig this idea. Well,

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this area is right where all of the extreme cases
of gentrification are happening in Los Angeles, in and around
that area where you have that new thoroughfare that's being
built for the Metro State Corridor YP, you have that
multi billion dollar facility that is going to be built there,

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another live work place where the cost of living there
Now I know people who actually live in that area,
even up to le Mert Park, who can no longer
afford to be there because the median income to be
there is now going to be six figures in above starting.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Just to be there.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
So something like this cost go complex that they're building. Oh,
this is for that upper middle and upper class that
will be moving into the area. The jungle is long gone.
You would not recognize the area right now, really, you
would not wreck. You would say, what happened to the
corner of gangbanging gets shot?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
It is gone?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
No, it was called the Jungle for a reason. Mark,
And I know you don't live out here, but the Jungle.
Did you ever see the movie Training Day?

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Of course, okay, that was filmed.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I'll say the scenes were mostly filmed in the Jungle,
which is not far from the Baldwin Hills, Crenshaw Plaza
that area around it. When you see the street Coliseum
Street or Crenshaw and Librea, that's generally the jungle.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
So a good place for me to be walking around
like a terry cloth polo with a say a rolex.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
No no no to Wallace point.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
It has changed so much from when, like you saw
a Training Day, you wouldn't recognize it because it is
completely turned over in the way that many of the
Inglewood neighborhoods have turned over things to so far stadium
and into it dome and so forth. And this is
the push pull plus minus good bad of you bring

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in these economic dollars like a Costco and these other developments,
but oftentimes they will buy up the housing of the
people who live there, usually in apartments, and they have
to find somewhere else to live or if they're going
to stay in those neighborhoods, because and this goes back
into no rent control. You know, they were literally doubling

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people's rents overnight.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, I've noticed this happening happening in a lot of
different places, which is they go from too dangerous to
walk around in to quickly too expensive even to canter
with no golden period in between.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, that's exactly what happens.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
And since land is finite, you have these developers creeping
into these neighborhoods. Not like they just dropped into Lamert Park.
They kind of moved up to Lahmert Park. When you
had the subway stop put in, they had a Starbucks
put in, and you could see the neighborhood slowly changing.
And it'd be one thing if you didn't force out

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the people who are already living there. But more times
than not, the people are forced out because the apartments
that are there are bought. They want the land, They
tear down the apartments, and the people left to have
to scatter to go somewhere, and they probably can't stay
in those same neighborhoods because you know, you can't find
let's say, a one bedroom from under fourteen fifteen hundred

(24:47):
dollars now in that neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
You can't. Oh, in fact, that's low.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah yeah, I mean like the two the one bedrooms
here in Burbank or thirty five hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, it is true.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm not exaggerating. I'll be buying a used Drvy to
live in. Well, you can do better. You think those
are expensive to wall? Yeah, I'm know Clarence Thomas. Give
it to him, Give it to him. Come on, I'll
give him that one. I don't have any patrons offering
me a new one.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I didn't know who that was. Don't say that out loud. Really,
don't say that out loud. What is happening?

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh? Okay, wait wait wait wait wait wait, last question.
If I said John Roberts, does that ring a bell? No,
Samuel Alito, No, you're killing me. Katanji Brown Jackson. Maybe
maybe he's Amy Cony Barrett.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah, who is that familiar? Okay?

Speaker 4 (25:51):
If I am.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1 (26:04):
Many months ago, we were telling you we Twallas Sharp
and I we were telling you about how the Me
Too movement seemingly glossed over the music industry.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
It was mostly TV movies.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You had people who who hit more than one medium,
like Bill Cosby who was comedy and television and a
little bit of movies, but largely the Me Too movement
did not get the main offenders allisedly in the music industry.
And Twilias Sharp and I were telling you stories, couldn't

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give names, things that we had seen, things that we
had known, things that had gone on, and the prevailing
question we got from you who may have hit us
on social media? It's like, well, why is it people
didn't come forward? Well, unlike movie and TV, and I'm
just generalizing where people didn't come forward because they're worried
about people ruining their lives and careers in the music business,

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wried about getting killed.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
There was a violence variable there.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
You've seen the indictment, now you've seen the lawsuits confronting
P Diddy. We're talking about molotov cocktails, guns, physical violence, verbal.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Abuse, threats of murder, all of that. That's why people
didn't come forward. And if you're wondering, like whether you
can believe some of this, because some of it goes
back many years. I say this as someone who worked
in the business. There was a very good possibility that
if you did the wrong thing, that you were going

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to get killed. And I'm not exaggerating, And TWA has
his own stories. When I worked at Virgin Records, we
had arm police security all day every day because at
any given moment, someone could have walked in and shot
up the place.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
That's just the truth. That's a fact. That is a fact.
I visited your.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Offices and saw the three inch thick lexon glassic curre
like it was a bank.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yes, no, very serious, that's why.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
And there are a lot of things like people ask
me over the years, Hey, bo, are you ever going
to write a book?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Hell no, No.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
There are certain things that I know that are just
going to stay with me till the day I die. Now,
I have spoken up when it when it came to
the Grammy Awards, that was relatively safe, and I talked
about what I saw there, and I spoke to law
enforcement about what I saw there. And if you read
the news about what happened to the then Grammy Chief C.
Michael Green, you know that all had I had something

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to do with that. Not the biggest role, but a
role in that. But talking about P Diddy, the other shoe.
Now music business has finally dropped. He was charged today
with racketeering, conspiracy, sex track trafficking, trafficking by force, fraud
and coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Stuff that we have been telling you about going on
in the industry for months, I mean just on the show,
just from what we had seen, what we had known,
it was routine. So when I say the me Too
movement is coming through the music industry, oh, there's gonna
be a bunch.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Of other names. I'm telling you this, names that you know.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Colmbs is also accused of narcotics offenses, arsen bribery, kidnapping,
forced labor, and others other stuff. Now, if you read
the indictment, and I encourage you to read the indictment,
it's horrid, but you need to read it. The alleged
abuse is unconscionable and it's something that you would think

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that it would be impossible for someone to even want
to do it to someone or someone's but yeah, it
is a real thing. It's alleged to have taken place
over many years and dozens of unnamed women and men,
and the DOJ has did an all call basically like
if you know something, if you've seen something, please speak

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up now, please come forward now. And I think that's
part of the reason not all the reasons, but part
of the reason why did he was remanded so he
could not have contact with witnesses or would be victims.
He would not be able to flee the country. He
is a man of means. He has the private jets
and the way and the money to get out of
the country very quickly. Let me just say like this,

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when I heard that they had remanded him and he
did not, he was not able to post bail.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
He was willing to put up fifty million dollars bond.
That ought to tell you what type of means he had.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
That told me that the DOJ is obviously concerned about
him fleeing, but also thinks that they can put him
away for good.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
For good.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, And I said, just from working with the federal
grand jury for four months, when they indict you, they
already have you. They have him. I'm not saying he's guilty.
He's not guilty. Unto he's convicted beyond a reasonable doubt
in a law I'm just saying they're going to convict him.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
They don't bring charges unless they think it's a lock.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
And if you look at the amount of physical evidence,
not even saying the evidence that we don't know as
far as wiretaps, what they found in the searches and
raids of the multiple homes, the witness testimony, the people.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Oh, and here's the last thing before we go to break.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
There will be other people who will come forward now
because they know there's a degree of safety and protection
for these witnesses. And they're going to people going to
be people in his employ who are now going to
flip because Sean Colmes is not out on the street,
and they're going to give testimony. Maybe some might have
been former workers now get immunity, some or other victims

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who will come forward. What the federal government has on
did Hey right now will pale in comparison to what
they will have in two months did he. And I'm
not saying this to be hyperbolic. I'm saying that he's
probably facing anywhere from twenty years to life. He and
I are the exact same age, born the same month,
so I know where we are in physical life terms.

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It is highly unlikely that he will ever see another
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