May 2, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – The debut of “The Sex Doctor Is In" with Sam Zia, MA LMFT (#106352), PhD Candidate, Human Sexuality; setting off this new segment examining all the ways in-which EVERYONE engages in gender affirming care…PLUS – Thoughts on a new study that reveals the least washed body part - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Quicker joining us in studio right now, we have a
new segment we want to give to you. It's called
(00:36):
The Sex Doctor is in and he'll see us now.
His name is Sam Zea. You've heard him different times
on the show, but now we want to make him
a permanent resident here.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Sam.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's great to see you, and I know people get
to see you probably for the first time.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I assume, yeah, yeah, I mean I've been on your show.
We've been doing the streaming, so that's usually the first
place where where people will catch me. But I've been
I want you know, I've been on the board here
for like two decades. Here Ry if I So while
I was doing that, I've been going and pursuing my education.
So I've got while while working in this building, I
got a master's degree in clinical psychology and now getting
(01:10):
a PhD in human sexuality.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you are the sex doctor. Yeah, okay, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So when we talk about these issues, sometimes it may
be humorous, but other times there's some legitimate issues to discuss.
What's on your mind tonight that I think that you
may think that we've been missing in the discussion of
some of these issues surrounding sex and gender.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, a big topic that's been controversial recently, over the
last five or six years especially, it's been pretty politically charged,
this gender affirming care. And you know, I'm not here
to argue with anybody or changing anybody's minds or opinions
on it. Everybody's got their opinions, and if you have
a problem with it, I always I just view it
as being just that it's your opinion. It's your opinion,
(01:51):
it's your problem, not going to change it, it's not
my problem. That's not what I'm here for. But it
occurred to me recently that despite every everybody out there
seemingly has very strong opinions on the topic. Very few
people actually know what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, let's down.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was on I was on social media, and I
saw an ad for a product for men that was
made to make larger men look skinnier, a man girdle,
and I am you know, it was late at night,
I had Yeah, I just come home from karaoke, I
had a couple, I was ready to go to bed,
and I I just you know, smart ass posts on
there that counts as gender affirming care? Oh because and immediately, Oh,
(02:34):
I woke up the next morning and I saw a
rush of people's in there saying that does that's not
gender affirming care. That's not that. Gender firming care is
having surgery to change your your from male to female
or mutal.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Or some sort of use of pharmaceutical products.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Absolutely. Yeah. So, like you know, usually medical interventions for
that are like hormone treatment, surgery, puberty block puberty blockers.
Those are the things that people are most familiar with. Now,
most people associated with just those medical interventions. But really
the guy one person had the very smart ass comment
on it, Oh, Google is so free, You're wrong, And
(03:12):
I go and I google it, and the first thing
it says that gender affirming care is a series of social,
psychological and medical treatments. Okay, so immediately people are only
associating it with those medical treatments, but they're not paying
attention to the social and psychological interventions. Therapy is one.
A lot of years of therapy usually has to go
(03:32):
into it before people are going to make those transitions.
But social transitioning, one major social intervention is adjusting personal
appearance to align with gender identity. And that's what a
man girdle is doing in that moment.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It is better identify with the idea of the gender
of being male.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah. For that individual, their idea of what's manly is
looking a little thinner is. And you can even for
women putting on makeup, wearing high heels, or for guys
wearing lifts in their shoes, that is gender affirming it
You are looking more like what your personal ideal that
of what your gender should be.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I always make the distinction. There's a difference between sex
and gender. Sex is how we're born. Gender is how
we want to present ourselves to society, yeah, or how.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Society defines us. And different societies have different ideas of
what genders are, and it's a social construct versus what
biologically we are.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Biologically, what we are is what we are.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
People can have surgeries to change genders and be and
to have their bodies match what their gender is, what
their personal identity of their gender is. But it's not
just people who are trying to transition from male to
female or female to male. People. All of us, every
single one of us, engages in gender affirming care. Can
you give us some other examples for women wearing makeup,
(04:57):
high heel shoes, or if you want to go straight
up medical only, breast implants, getting your lips enlarged. All
of that is GBL care. Yeah, bbl's gender affirming care, guys,
if you're gonna be going out there. Other forms of
it are like hair plugs, getting lipos so that you
have a six pack.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Now, don't run past to hair plugs because men have
been doing that for literal decades because it affirms their manhood,
or at.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Least their concept of it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah. So, really, the concept of gender affirming care only
became controversial when we exclusively assigned the meaning of it
towards people who are transitioning from one gender to another,
or having or we're trying in that process of transitioning,
instead of looking at it from the perspective of every
single one of us has access to care that affirms
(05:47):
our gender, and all of us do it, every single
one of us.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Okay, I know there's someone listening right now who is
probably of the mind.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's like Sam the sex doctor.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I understand the point that you're trying to make, but
it feels like, you know, you can't maybe articulate it correctly,
but it feels like you're reaching where someone who's going
through sexual reassignment surgery is not the same thing as
a guy who's wearing lifts.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, but they're I mean, the spectrum of people, for example,
within the transgender computer community goes from people who are
planning on having surgery to people who are not having
surgery at all. They may just be taking hormones, or
they may just be doing social interventions, in psychological interventions,
no medical interventions. So really the definition of it that
(06:31):
really we have to focus on that social transitioning, that
one social intervention adjusting personal appearance to align with that
individual's gender identity. It doesn't you don't have to be
trans to engage in adjusting personal appearance to align with
gender identity. I'm doing it right now in the clothes
I'm wearing and wearing genes of a button up T
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shirt this and it makes me look like I'm, you know,
relatively well kept. I have a beard. This is all
to affirming care that I'm doing for myself. It makes
me feel more like like it's reflecting my personal gender identity.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Let's talk about the co I'll say, the merge of
history and sociology. Why do you believe gender and the
expression of it is so damn important in America in
twenty twenty five as opposed to because if you know,
through history, the whole idea of gender was less important
(07:28):
in Greek societies and other societies. Why do you think
in America is such a big damn deal.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, a lot of people like to have certainty and
like to be have comfort and familiarity and things that
make them, you know, like it's easy to be able
to just say men and women and not have any
gray area in between, just and a lot of people
try to associate religious things behind that as well. But
really a lot of times people don't just aren't paying
(07:55):
attention to the fact that gender people there have been
thousands of you know, and people throughout history have identified
with things that are beyond just man, yes, woman, and
not just that. Socially, what people do is, you know,
what's acceptable for men to do in one place out here,
(08:16):
like say, in America, it's not necessarily acceptable for me
to hold another dude's hand and kiss him on the cheek,
right mm hm, as a straight I'm a straight, a
straight guy, that's pretty unacceptable. But if I go to
Iran right now, guys are holding hands with each other,
kissing each other on the cheek just to say hi.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Go to France and see that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So that's the thing. All of this stuff is cultural
and social. When it comes to what is the acceptable
gender expression. Here in America, we have very like polarized
views of gender. Either it's only two man and woman
and just that, or people saying it's one thousand and
one flavors of the rainbow and all of that stuff.
(08:55):
And I'm not here to argue one way or the
other on that. I just think that the idea of
under affirming care is being falsely demonized when all of
us are engaging in that, and people, honestly, the people
who seem to be engaging in the most gender affirming
care are the alpha males air quotes air quotes alpha
males or some people tend to look at their guns
(09:16):
as signs of masculinity. That amosexuals right there. That people
who actually like putting as the real man. People who
have as their gender identity amosexual. But that's actual more
of a sexual preference than gender identity. But that's another story.
They prefer having sex with ammo. That's some of them.
I haven't seen that part of sexuality that deeply yet.
(09:40):
I haven't researched that part yet.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The sex doctor Sam Zea is in and we have
another segment with him, so stay right here.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There's much more to discuss. It's Later with Moe Kelly.
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Got a nice message from Mario who's in the YouTube
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(10:27):
new regular commentator, the sex doctor sam Zia.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's in and he will now see us as his patient.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
We had a really important question that I want to
address which was posed in the chat. This comes from
miss Rachel and it says, can you explain how gender
affirming care supports mental and sexual health for transgender and
non binary individuals during and after transition?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
There's a lot there.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Oh yeah, it supports it in every way you mentioned
psychologically and sexually. Mental health wise, you need to go
through quite a bit of therapy and counseling so that
it becomes like, you know, between your doctor, you, your therapist,
and all the people around you kind of a team
that's working together towards you transitioning. So they're going to
(11:18):
make sure that before, during, and after whatever if you
are getting the surgery or if you're taking hormone therapy
or whatever it is, that you are covering yourself emotionally.
Either you know, if you need to go see a psychiatrist,
then that's going to be part of the game. But
really making sure that talk therapy is part of the
whole process is a big thing. Afterwards, then going through
(11:39):
you know, like as far as actual physical if you
have surgery, there's going to be various forms of care
that goes you know, physical care, there's going to be
you know, we were talking about various forms of gender
affirming care in the last segment. One of them that
I'm not sure if we mentioned was penil implants.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And first, that's a medical intervention.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's a medical intervention for people who are either transitioning
or not. Penile implants are things that people get, so
that's something that you know, that's part of the game.
Some of those penile implants are mechanical, So if you
if you're looking to actually have a functional penis as
far as sexually functional penises go, there are mechanical things
(12:24):
that go within it, inserts that go within it that
make it so that you can achieve arousal. You know,
there's pumps, there's different mechanisms that I know. To be
delicate with this, I really am, but I mean there's
a pump that gets inserted into the scrotum that you
it's like a it's like a rebock pump in there.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
For those who are old enough to remember the reboc pump.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, so that's the thing. It's like, there's quite a
few different interventions. It just depends on which form of
gender affirming care. If you are transgender, which form of
affirming gender care you're going for. Some people are not
having the search. They're just sticking with hormones. Some people
are not doing hormones or surgery and they're just doing
social interventions such as pronoun changes, name changes, things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Again, I'm thinking about people who may be listening who
may not have a level of comfort with this subject matter.
We started off talking about gender affirming care, non transitional
yeah people, And I remember we had this conversation last
week off air, and I said, I'd never really thought
of it that way. What are some of the other
(13:32):
ways that I would say straight CIS men are trying
to reaffirm their own gender that we may not have
historically customarily thought of as such.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
People who you see it a lot when the bodybuilder
competitions guys with giant muscles, that's very much gender affirming
for guys various behaviors. Hunting is a gender affirming behavior
for a lot of guys. So it's an expression of
our manhood exactly. Anything that people equate with manliness that
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can be conceived or be perceived as gender affirming.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
In the way that we look at a woman's role,
air quotes, or the activities that they may involve themselves
in as gender affirming.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Now people are looking at it from like everybody gender affirming,
like from a global perspective, when what's gender affirming is
up to that individual.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So and society is kind of laid out.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, society definitely draws the boundaries of what's acceptable, but
at the same time that one person's individual gender identity
determines what their behaviors typically are.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I remember growing up and my father was very much
about this is how a man is supposed to act,
this is what a man supposed to do, and this
is how a man is supposed to sit. And I
remember my father sitting me down and saying, hey, a
man does not cross his legs.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now, he can put his ankle.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Across is knee, but he does not cross his legs
like a woman. How how much are we programmed to
be a man or a woman as opposed to just
who we want to be?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, how much we're programmed almost one hundred percent, because
not all of us are born with that idea of
I can't cross my legs. Not everybody is born with
you shouldn't do that because you're you know, that's not
what men do. Not at that, That's something that's very
much taught. That's why gender is very much a social
construct versus you know, biological sex that you have to
(15:39):
draw the distinction. The biggest problem right now when people
have this discussion is the conflation of sex and gender.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Absolutely. Now let's talk about the scientific portion real quick.
You know, someone will say, well, I'm I'm a man
or male at least because I have a Y chromosome.
Where does the science come out as far as the
excess and.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Wise, But you can have the X and Y chromosome
and be female on a sex level. On a phenotype level,
phenotype is what we look like. Genotype is what genetically
we are, what our chromosomes are. So genetically you may
have somebody who is genetically male, but phenotype, what they're
(16:18):
presenting physically is female, and that is that their choice
or something that's what they're biologically born as. And this
is something that is an interesting Now you're exploding my
head trying yeah, no, this is and this is something
that wasn't I didn't even think that I was going
to mention this, but now that's here, I definitely should.
When people when babies are born intersex, because people are like,
(16:40):
you're either male or female, they discount the fact that,
like some studies say, two percent of the population is
born intersex. Now, if you have a baby who's born
presenting both male and female genitalia, that birth is considered
a medical emergency, and at that moment the doctors have
(17:00):
to talk with the parents to determine make a decision. Yeah,
make a decision either or can't be both, doesn't matter
if they choose wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The oh okay, so.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
So you're there to tell you one way or the other,
which way they think they are, which way they naturally are.
But it's a medical emergency that requires immediate intervention.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
If I understand you correctly.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Since that medical procedure decision is being made by the parents,
separate and distinct of what the child may grow up
and feel internally, there may be some sort of not
even a contradiction, but some sort of internal struggle bingo.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And when you talk about limiting gender affirming care, because
that's the thing. All of us have access to gender
affirming care, but it seems like politically we only want
to we want to limit it from a specific part
of the population. Now, the thing is that gender affirming
care may be the only relief for people like that,
the people who were born, but the parents had to
make a choice and they chose something that wasn't actually
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what that kid ended up becoming or what actually was.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So the one thing that you can do, the one
intervention that they had to get psychological, physic, physiological relief
from all of it is now has now become a
political football.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So when I cut my hair short, that's gender of
firm and care as opposed to letting it grow long,
because we think a female gender expression is long hair.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Depending on what part of the world you are, you
or it could be different.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Ah, Sam to sex doctor, nice introduction. Yeah we come
back next week.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I will.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I'll definitely be here next week. I got more fun
stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Sam, a sex doctor is now leaving the building. It's
Laid with mo Kelly.
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specific body part when either they bathe or they just
(20:37):
hit the hot spots as they say, and it is
actually a health hazard. I'm not going to go around
the room and ask everyone about their hygiene habits.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'll just look at their fingernails.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But I will say this, I'm not surprised when I
read this story how there's one body part that most people.
Most people overlook or don't give it it's attention, and
you may think, oh, it's no big deal. Now I
can honestly say this has never applied to me, if
only because I've taken martial arts for the past almost
(21:13):
forty years. That should be a hint and a half.
We cannot walk on the mat with dirty feet. We
have to have exceptional foot hygiene. Some people wear like
martial arts shoes, but for the most part, your barefoot. Okay,
you can't have ToeJam. You can't have you know, fungus
(21:34):
all over your toenails, because that's disrespectful. Because part of
being on the mat is being physically presentable. Your uniform,
your dope book is supposed to be clean, and your
body's supposed to be clean, most notably your feet. But
in this story, according to this the most often overlooked
body part that doesn't get washed or cleaned regularly or
(21:58):
thoroughly is a person feet. Now, we all hit the hotspots,
as I say, you know, it's groin, your face, you're underarms,
maybe some other places in between, but people most commonly
overlook their feet.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I bet you to know this.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Nearly two hundred fungal species live on just your feet,
just your feet. Sixty underneath the toenails, the heel has
about eighty and another forty that's the ToeJam area, the
space in between your toes. Yeah, most people that you'll
(22:38):
encounter do not wash their feet.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I don't know what to think about that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's not like you go to see their feet, but
you have to know that's one place where you really
really need to put some extra attention in.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
And what is the stated reason for ignoring foot cleanliness
people buying large just don't think it's important, just can't
reach down there. Laziness, I'm quite sure as part of it,
I was going to say laziness because when you actually
wash your feet, you have to get in between the toes,
you have to get your heel, you have to spend
a little time down there.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
More often than not, I think women do. And this
is just me making this a generalization. I think women
are a little bit more attentive to their feet than
men because women probably are more likely to get a pedicure,
whereas men less likely to less likely would I've never
had a pedicure, but I've always been obsessive about my feet.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Man, how laborious could it be just to reach down
and give your feet a scrub?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What is the deal?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
You don't have to be Quentin Tarantino to Mark want
some clean feet.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Mark is not.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Laborious to wash your hands after using a bathroom. But
there are a lot of people who don't. I can't
speak for the women's bathroom, but in this men's bathroom,
it's not uncommon to see someone either come out of
the stall or leave the urinal and just walk straight.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
On out, dirty, filthy animals, that's right.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And they touched the handle too, so I mean, yeah,
it's not asking a lot. You would think that it's
not a lot of work to clean just most parts
of your body, but look, I encounter a lot more
people who don't even take showers every day. I don't
know how they do it. And you can smell them too.
Some people are not bothered by the natural aroma. I
(24:21):
sure as hell am.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Anybody who references their natural aroma is somebody I never
ever want to be around.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I've worked in.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
When I worked in the music industry, there were a
lot of people, especially artists, they were just different creatively.
They were strange, my word, who did not bathe consistently.
People you've heard of, and I've made mention of it
on the air before, Well, throw me a bone here,
a stinky bone. Okay, I will say this. When I
was working at Virgin Records, and women love this guy.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Now love him?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Super sex symbol but you couldn't pay me to walk
past him. He used to wear a lot of leather
and no shirt underneath. You wear leather pants and a
leather vest, stinking. I imagine leather makes you sweating, yes,
because it can't breathe. Correct And if you don't bathe
and wear stuff that you can't breathe and I'm not
(25:15):
so sure. Even more deodorant all the time. This guy
was nasty, okay, and it's La. It's always like, hello degrees.
You never need to wear leather in La.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I need more clues than that, though, to figure out
who this was.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You don't to get away now?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah? Yeah, no, no, no true story, true story.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well it's a good thing. Maggie woman, not eat dinner,
funky ass.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Maggie woman.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Need to wash it? Never mind? It's Later with mo Kelly.
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Speaker 2 (26:22):
Right now, Good evening, sir, so Kelly.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, sorry, last night when you went to me, we
got here with a superstorm and a knocked out the
power to everything.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh wow, is everything okay?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Everything's fine. We've got generators in the studio so that
kept us going okay, and I couldn't get to you.
But tonight we're going to talk about RFK and the
assassination of nineteen sixty eight, and then later on in
the program UFOs at Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yes, yes, thank you so much, charge.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Thank you very welcome.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Have a great night.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
All right, let's see how many cliches I can fit
into this introduction of my final thought. It's time to
get down to brass tax tacks. Now the rubber is
going to meet the road. It's white knuckle time. Let's
get down to business. There's trouble right here in River City,
(27:18):
fa FO. I think that's enough. The point is that
we're getting ready to get a real sense of where
this economy is headed.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
In this month of Bay.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
The stock market is up, it's down, it's up, it's down,
but still down overall for the year. It had a
rally this week. Earlier this week, GDP for Q one
quarter one was reported as negative point three percent. That's
down from two point four percent in Q four of
twenty twenty four. Put another way, if the GDP for
(27:52):
Q two comes back negative as well, will officially be
in a recession in the near term.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Though.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
We'll go to get the April jobs report, and as
of this commentary, job growth is expected to be cut
in half from.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The March numbers.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But speaking of job slash unemployment, adjacent to that, the
Labor Department reported yesterday the job less claims jumped by
eighteen thousand to two hundred and forty one thousand in
the week ending April twenty six. That's the highest level
since early October, another indicator of a rapidly slowing economy.
(28:30):
After easing slightly in March, mortgage rates rose again in April,
returning to last year's levels amid market uncertainty surrounding government
trade and economic policies i e. Tariffs, a shift that
is expected to slow buyer and seller activity. Now that's
according to realtor dot com. And if they're right, the
housing market is now also going to slow, another major
(28:54):
economic indicator.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But mo, I'm not in a market to buy a house.
Why should I care?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, A slower housing market means less housing construction, which
means fewer materials purchased. YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
GDP is more likely to take another kick in the
balls and so forth. But let me make it even
more local and more relatable. McDonald's US sales shrank three
point six percent during this first quarter, and that was
(29:22):
just reported today. The company blamed quote unquote bad winter
weather and a more cautious consumer due to say it
with me, economic uncertainty, bad weather, Okay, whatever, But that
drop is the worst in McDonald's USA revenue since the
eight point seven percent plunge during the second quarter of
(29:43):
twenty twenty. And you might remember that was pandemic. But Moe,
why aren't you talking about the prices of eggs? Sure,
let's do that. Let's disregard all major indicators to talk
about just one food item. On March fourth, eggs hitting
all time high, averaging eight point excuse me, eight dollars
(30:03):
and sixteen cents per dozen. March twenty six, it was
down to two dollars and ninety two cents a dozen.
President Trump, looking at those numbers, thus far has delivered
on his promise to bring down.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
The cost of eggs.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Not on day one, but eggs are less dead before
the election. The two dollars in ninety two cents was
March twenty six, but as of today, they're back up
to three dollars and fifteen cents and rising again.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So you can go celebrate with as many omelets as
you like.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Inflation and there's a point to all this, but I
want to lay out the facts. Inflation was two point
eight percent in February and two point four percent in March.
We'll see what the threat and implementation of tariffs have
done to the inflation rate. We'll find out very soon
May thirteenth. To be exact, I say we'll see because
everything from toys to tires to close mainly come from China.
(30:57):
The tariff rate on China is presently one hundred in
twenty four point one percent. You're gonna feel that no
matter what anyone else tells you, Like we told you
earlier tonight about how Xbox raised their prices for consoles
by one hundred dollars and Xbox doesn't even make their
consoles in China, They're made in Taiwan. That should be
(31:19):
a hint for what's coming. Here's some local proof. The
Los Angeles Port is expecting a thirty five percent drop
in cargo from Asia just next week. That's according to
the port's executive director just announced today. Major American retailers
have now stopped all shipments from China, and that contributes
(31:41):
to around forty five percent of traffic in Los Angeles Port.
That means longshoremen will be out of work count on it.
The final goods which preceded the new China tariffs have
hit US ports, meaning everything else going forward will be
under the new tariffs. You the consumer will feel that
(32:03):
starting next week, either in higher prices, empty shelves, or
some combination of both. President Trump has argued that we
will feel some short term pain, and it's for a
larger good. Maybe maybe. But here's some more facts. Exactly,
zero new trade deals have been made. Zero, So we're
(32:24):
still at the starting line. We haven't even gotten going yet.
And just in case you don't know, each and every
supposed new trade deal must be ratified by Congress.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That's just civics. That's not me as civics.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
So it doesn't matter who may say we have a
new trade deal with some country. It doesn't matter any
news report that you see until it is ratified by Congress,
it doesn't exist. Now let me get back to the
idea of short term paid and I want to take
my time with this. Not everybody's idea of short term
is even remotely comparable.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Is it six months, is it a year?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Is it two years?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
The clocks it starts ticking on short term whatever that
is starting this month. The stock market volatility, that was
all about uncertainty. That's why it went up, it went down,
it went up, it went down. But May and moving
forward will be about the real, not the hypothetical nor
the theoretical. So let's be clear, this is not going
to be resolved Stephan, you're asking this is not going
(33:21):
to be resolved before the holiday season. It only it
not only impacts purchases by corporations for the holiday season,
but also seasonal hires. It's all been funning games, arguing
on social media. I love doing it, going back and
forth with you and others about what is actually happening
in our economy. But now you will start to see
(33:43):
and feel the road, the rubber as it hits it.
It's bumps and potholes. Short term is relative. Everybody. Everybody
has a plan. Pay thresholds are relative. Everybody thinks they
can withstand pain.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
But remember, like.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Mike Tyson used to say during his heyday, everybody has
a plan right up until they get hit in the mouth. Well,
I'm here to tell you punches start this month. You
better stick and move. For KFI, I am six forty,
I'm MO Kelly.
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Quicker joining us in studio right now, we have a
new segment we want to give to you. It's called
(00:36):
The Sex Doctor is in and he'll see us now.
His name is Sam Zea. You've heard him different times
on the show, but now we want to make him
a permanent resident here.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Sam.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
It's great to see you, and I know people get
to see you probably for the first time.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I assume, yeah, yeah, I mean I've been on your show.
We've been doing the streaming, so that's usually the first
place where where people will catch me. But I've been
I want you know, I've been on the board here
for like two decades. Here Ry if I So while
I was doing that, I've been going and pursuing my education.
So I've got while while working in this building, I
got a master's degree in clinical psychology and now getting
(01:10):
a PhD in human sexuality.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you are the sex doctor. Yeah, okay, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
So when we talk about these issues, sometimes it may
be humorous, but other times there's some legitimate issues to discuss.
What's on your mind tonight that I think that you
may think that we've been missing in the discussion of
some of these issues surrounding sex and gender.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, a big topic that's been controversial recently, over the
last five or six years especially, it's been pretty politically charged,
this gender affirming care. And you know, I'm not here
to argue with anybody or changing anybody's minds or opinions
on it. Everybody's got their opinions, and if you have
a problem with it, I always I just view it
as being just that it's your opinion. It's your opinion,
(01:51):
it's your problem, not going to change it, it's not
my problem. That's not what I'm here for. But it
occurred to me recently that despite every everybody out there
seemingly has very strong opinions on the topic. Very few
people actually know what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, let's down.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I was on I was on social media, and I
saw an ad for a product for men that was
made to make larger men look skinnier, a man girdle,
and I am you know, it was late at night,
I had Yeah, I just come home from karaoke, I
had a couple, I was ready to go to bed,
and I I just you know, smart ass posts on
there that counts as gender affirming care? Oh because and immediately, Oh,
(02:34):
I woke up the next morning and I saw a
rush of people's in there saying that does that's not
gender affirming care. That's not that. Gender firming care is
having surgery to change your your from male to female
or mutal.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Or some sort of use of pharmaceutical products.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Absolutely. Yeah. So, like you know, usually medical interventions for
that are like hormone treatment, surgery, puberty block puberty blockers.
Those are the things that people are most familiar with. Now,
most people associated with just those medical interventions. But really
the guy one person had the very smart ass comment
on it, Oh, Google is so free, You're wrong, And
(03:12):
I go and I google it, and the first thing
it says that gender affirming care is a series of social,
psychological and medical treatments. Okay, so immediately people are only
associating it with those medical treatments, but they're not paying
attention to the social and psychological interventions. Therapy is one.
A lot of years of therapy usually has to go
(03:32):
into it before people are going to make those transitions.
But social transitioning, one major social intervention is adjusting personal
appearance to align with gender identity. And that's what a
man girdle is doing in that moment.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It is better identify with the idea of the gender
of being male.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah. For that individual, their idea of what's manly is
looking a little thinner is. And you can even for
women putting on makeup, wearing high heels, or for guys
wearing lifts in their shoes, that is gender affirming it
You are looking more like what your personal ideal that
of what your gender should be.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I always make the distinction. There's a difference between sex
and gender. Sex is how we're born. Gender is how
we want to present ourselves to society, yeah, or how.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Society defines us. And different societies have different ideas of
what genders are, and it's a social construct versus what
biologically we are.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Biologically, what we are is what we are.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
People can have surgeries to change genders and be and
to have their bodies match what their gender is, what
their personal identity of their gender is. But it's not
just people who are trying to transition from male to
female or female to male. People. All of us, every
single one of us, engages in gender affirming care. Can
you give us some other examples for women wearing makeup,
(04:57):
high heel shoes, or if you want to go straight
up medical only, breast implants, getting your lips enlarged. All
of that is GBL care. Yeah, bbl's gender affirming care, guys,
if you're gonna be going out there. Other forms of
it are like hair plugs, getting lipos so that you
have a six pack.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Now, don't run past to hair plugs because men have
been doing that for literal decades because it affirms their manhood,
or at.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Least their concept of it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah. So, really, the concept of gender affirming care only
became controversial when we exclusively assigned the meaning of it
towards people who are transitioning from one gender to another,
or having or we're trying in that process of transitioning,
instead of looking at it from the perspective of every
single one of us has access to care that affirms
(05:47):
our gender, and all of us do it, every single
one of us.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Okay, I know there's someone listening right now who is
probably of the mind.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's like Sam the sex doctor.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I understand the point that you're trying to make, but
it feels like, you know, you can't maybe articulate it correctly,
but it feels like you're reaching where someone who's going
through sexual reassignment surgery is not the same thing as
a guy who's wearing lifts.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
No, but they're I mean, the spectrum of people, for example,
within the transgender computer community goes from people who are
planning on having surgery to people who are not having
surgery at all. They may just be taking hormones, or
they may just be doing social interventions, in psychological interventions,
no medical interventions. So really the definition of it that
(06:31):
really we have to focus on that social transitioning, that
one social intervention adjusting personal appearance to align with that
individual's gender identity. It doesn't you don't have to be
trans to engage in adjusting personal appearance to align with
gender identity. I'm doing it right now in the clothes
I'm wearing and wearing genes of a button up T
(06:54):
shirt this and it makes me look like I'm, you know,
relatively well kept. I have a beard. This is all
to affirming care that I'm doing for myself. It makes
me feel more like like it's reflecting my personal gender identity.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Let's talk about the co I'll say, the merge of
history and sociology. Why do you believe gender and the
expression of it is so damn important in America in
twenty twenty five as opposed to because if you know,
through history, the whole idea of gender was less important
(07:28):
in Greek societies and other societies. Why do you think
in America is such a big damn deal.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Well, a lot of people like to have certainty and
like to be have comfort and familiarity and things that
make them, you know, like it's easy to be able
to just say men and women and not have any
gray area in between, just and a lot of people
try to associate religious things behind that as well. But
really a lot of times people don't just aren't paying
(07:55):
attention to the fact that gender people there have been
thousands of you know, and people throughout history have identified
with things that are beyond just man, yes, woman, and
not just that. Socially, what people do is, you know,
what's acceptable for men to do in one place out here,
(08:16):
like say, in America, it's not necessarily acceptable for me
to hold another dude's hand and kiss him on the cheek,
right mm hm, as a straight I'm a straight, a
straight guy, that's pretty unacceptable. But if I go to
Iran right now, guys are holding hands with each other,
kissing each other on the cheek just to say hi.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Go to France and see that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So that's the thing. All of this stuff is cultural
and social. When it comes to what is the acceptable
gender expression. Here in America, we have very like polarized
views of gender. Either it's only two man and woman
and just that, or people saying it's one thousand and
one flavors of the rainbow and all of that stuff.
(08:55):
And I'm not here to argue one way or the
other on that. I just think that the idea of
under affirming care is being falsely demonized when all of
us are engaging in that, and people, honestly, the people
who seem to be engaging in the most gender affirming
care are the alpha males air quotes air quotes alpha
males or some people tend to look at their guns
(09:16):
as signs of masculinity. That amosexuals right there. That people
who actually like putting as the real man. People who
have as their gender identity amosexual. But that's actual more
of a sexual preference than gender identity. But that's another story.
They prefer having sex with ammo. That's some of them.
I haven't seen that part of sexuality that deeply yet.
(09:40):
I haven't researched that part yet.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
The sex doctor Sam Zea is in and we have
another segment with him, so stay right here.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There's much more to discuss. It's Later with Moe Kelly.
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(10:27):
new regular commentator, the sex doctor sam Zia.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's in and he will now see us as his patient.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
We had a really important question that I want to
address which was posed in the chat. This comes from
miss Rachel and it says, can you explain how gender
affirming care supports mental and sexual health for transgender and
non binary individuals during and after transition?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
There's a lot there.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Oh yeah, it supports it in every way you mentioned
psychologically and sexually. Mental health wise, you need to go
through quite a bit of therapy and counseling so that
it becomes like, you know, between your doctor, you, your therapist,
and all the people around you kind of a team
that's working together towards you transitioning. So they're going to
(11:18):
make sure that before, during, and after whatever if you
are getting the surgery or if you're taking hormone therapy
or whatever it is, that you are covering yourself emotionally.
Either you know, if you need to go see a psychiatrist,
then that's going to be part of the game. But
really making sure that talk therapy is part of the
whole process is a big thing. Afterwards, then going through
(11:39):
you know, like as far as actual physical if you
have surgery, there's going to be various forms of care
that goes you know, physical care, there's going to be
you know, we were talking about various forms of gender
affirming care in the last segment. One of them that
I'm not sure if we mentioned was penil implants.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And first, that's a medical intervention.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's a medical intervention for people who are either transitioning
or not. Penile implants are things that people get, so
that's something that you know, that's part of the game.
Some of those penile implants are mechanical, So if you
if you're looking to actually have a functional penis as
far as sexually functional penises go, there are mechanical things
(12:24):
that go within it, inserts that go within it that
make it so that you can achieve arousal. You know,
there's pumps, there's different mechanisms that I know. To be
delicate with this, I really am, but I mean there's
a pump that gets inserted into the scrotum that you
it's like a it's like a rebock pump in there.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
For those who are old enough to remember the reboc pump.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, so that's the thing. It's like, there's quite a
few different interventions. It just depends on which form of
gender affirming care. If you are transgender, which form of
affirming gender care you're going for. Some people are not
having the search. They're just sticking with hormones. Some people
are not doing hormones or surgery and they're just doing
social interventions such as pronoun changes, name changes, things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Again, I'm thinking about people who may be listening who
may not have a level of comfort with this subject matter.
We started off talking about gender affirming care, non transitional
yeah people, And I remember we had this conversation last
week off air, and I said, I'd never really thought
of it that way. What are some of the other
(13:32):
ways that I would say straight CIS men are trying
to reaffirm their own gender that we may not have
historically customarily thought of as such.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
People who you see it a lot when the bodybuilder
competitions guys with giant muscles, that's very much gender affirming
for guys various behaviors. Hunting is a gender affirming behavior
for a lot of guys. So it's an expression of
our manhood exactly. Anything that people equate with manliness that
(14:08):
can be conceived or be perceived as gender affirming.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
In the way that we look at a woman's role,
air quotes, or the activities that they may involve themselves
in as gender affirming.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Now people are looking at it from like everybody gender affirming,
like from a global perspective, when what's gender affirming is
up to that individual.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So and society is kind of laid out.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, society definitely draws the boundaries of what's acceptable, but
at the same time that one person's individual gender identity
determines what their behaviors typically are.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I remember growing up and my father was very much
about this is how a man is supposed to act,
this is what a man supposed to do, and this
is how a man is supposed to sit. And I
remember my father sitting me down and saying, hey, a
man does not cross his legs.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Now, he can put his ankle.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Across is knee, but he does not cross his legs
like a woman. How how much are we programmed to
be a man or a woman as opposed to just
who we want to be?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Well, how much we're programmed almost one hundred percent, because
not all of us are born with that idea of
I can't cross my legs. Not everybody is born with
you shouldn't do that because you're you know, that's not
what men do. Not at that, That's something that's very
much taught. That's why gender is very much a social
construct versus you know, biological sex that you have to
(15:39):
draw the distinction. The biggest problem right now when people
have this discussion is the conflation of sex and gender.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Absolutely. Now let's talk about the scientific portion real quick.
You know, someone will say, well, I'm I'm a man
or male at least because I have a Y chromosome.
Where does the science come out as far as the
excess and.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Wise, But you can have the X and Y chromosome
and be female on a sex level. On a phenotype level,
phenotype is what we look like. Genotype is what genetically
we are, what our chromosomes are. So genetically you may
have somebody who is genetically male, but phenotype, what they're
(16:18):
presenting physically is female, and that is that their choice
or something that's what they're biologically born as. And this
is something that is an interesting Now you're exploding my
head trying yeah, no, this is and this is something
that wasn't I didn't even think that I was going
to mention this, but now that's here, I definitely should.
When people when babies are born intersex, because people are like,
(16:40):
you're either male or female, they discount the fact that,
like some studies say, two percent of the population is
born intersex. Now, if you have a baby who's born
presenting both male and female genitalia, that birth is considered
a medical emergency, and at that moment the doctors have
(17:00):
to talk with the parents to determine make a decision. Yeah,
make a decision either or can't be both, doesn't matter
if they choose wrong.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
The oh okay, so.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
So you're there to tell you one way or the other,
which way they think they are, which way they naturally are.
But it's a medical emergency that requires immediate intervention.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
If I understand you correctly.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Since that medical procedure decision is being made by the parents,
separate and distinct of what the child may grow up
and feel internally, there may be some sort of not
even a contradiction, but some sort of internal struggle bingo.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And when you talk about limiting gender affirming care, because
that's the thing. All of us have access to gender
affirming care, but it seems like politically we only want
to we want to limit it from a specific part
of the population. Now, the thing is that gender affirming
care may be the only relief for people like that,
the people who were born, but the parents had to
make a choice and they chose something that wasn't actually
(18:01):
what that kid ended up becoming or what actually was.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is fascinating.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So the one thing that you can do, the one
intervention that they had to get psychological, physic, physiological relief
from all of it is now has now become a
political football.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
So when I cut my hair short, that's gender of
firm and care as opposed to letting it grow long,
because we think a female gender expression is long hair.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Depending on what part of the world you are, you
or it could be different.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Ah, Sam to sex doctor, nice introduction. Yeah we come
back next week.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I will.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I'll definitely be here next week. I got more fun
stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Sam, a sex doctor is now leaving the building. It's
Laid with mo Kelly.
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But this is something very special and right now we're
the only ones doing it, So come join the party
with us. If you didn't know, people are overlooking a
specific body part when either they bathe or they just
(20:37):
hit the hot spots as they say, and it is
actually a health hazard. I'm not going to go around
the room and ask everyone about their hygiene habits.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'll just look at their fingernails.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
But I will say this, I'm not surprised when I
read this story how there's one body part that most people.
Most people overlook or don't give it it's attention, and
you may think, oh, it's no big deal. Now I
can honestly say this has never applied to me, if
only because I've taken martial arts for the past almost
(21:13):
forty years. That should be a hint and a half.
We cannot walk on the mat with dirty feet. We
have to have exceptional foot hygiene. Some people wear like
martial arts shoes, but for the most part, your barefoot. Okay,
you can't have ToeJam. You can't have you know, fungus
(21:34):
all over your toenails, because that's disrespectful. Because part of
being on the mat is being physically presentable. Your uniform,
your dope book is supposed to be clean, and your
body's supposed to be clean, most notably your feet. But
in this story, according to this the most often overlooked
body part that doesn't get washed or cleaned regularly or
(21:58):
thoroughly is a person feet. Now, we all hit the hotspots,
as I say, you know, it's groin, your face, you're underarms,
maybe some other places in between, but people most commonly
overlook their feet.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I bet you to know this.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Nearly two hundred fungal species live on just your feet,
just your feet. Sixty underneath the toenails, the heel has
about eighty and another forty that's the ToeJam area, the
space in between your toes. Yeah, most people that you'll
(22:38):
encounter do not wash their feet.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And I don't know what to think about that.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's not like you go to see their feet, but
you have to know that's one place where you really
really need to put some extra attention in.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
And what is the stated reason for ignoring foot cleanliness
people buying large just don't think it's important, just can't
reach down there. Laziness, I'm quite sure as part of it,
I was going to say laziness because when you actually
wash your feet, you have to get in between the toes,
you have to get your heel, you have to spend
a little time down there.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
More often than not, I think women do. And this
is just me making this a generalization. I think women
are a little bit more attentive to their feet than
men because women probably are more likely to get a pedicure,
whereas men less likely to less likely would I've never
had a pedicure, but I've always been obsessive about my feet.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Man, how laborious could it be just to reach down
and give your feet a scrub?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What is the deal?
Speaker 5 (23:35):
You don't have to be Quentin Tarantino to Mark want
some clean feet.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Mark is not.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Laborious to wash your hands after using a bathroom. But
there are a lot of people who don't. I can't
speak for the women's bathroom, but in this men's bathroom,
it's not uncommon to see someone either come out of
the stall or leave the urinal and just walk straight.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
On out, dirty, filthy animals, that's right.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And they touched the handle too, so I mean, yeah,
it's not asking a lot. You would think that it's
not a lot of work to clean just most parts
of your body, but look, I encounter a lot more
people who don't even take showers every day. I don't
know how they do it. And you can smell them too.
Some people are not bothered by the natural aroma. I
(24:21):
sure as hell am.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Anybody who references their natural aroma is somebody I never
ever want to be around.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I've worked in.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
When I worked in the music industry, there were a
lot of people, especially artists, they were just different creatively.
They were strange, my word, who did not bathe consistently.
People you've heard of, and I've made mention of it
on the air before, Well, throw me a bone here,
a stinky bone. Okay, I will say this. When I
was working at Virgin Records, and women love this guy.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Now love him?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Super sex symbol but you couldn't pay me to walk
past him. He used to wear a lot of leather
and no shirt underneath. You wear leather pants and a
leather vest, stinking. I imagine leather makes you sweating, yes,
because it can't breathe. Correct And if you don't bathe
and wear stuff that you can't breathe and I'm not
(25:15):
so sure. Even more deodorant all the time. This guy
was nasty, okay, and it's La. It's always like, hello degrees.
You never need to wear leather in La.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I need more clues than that, though, to figure out
who this was.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
You don't to get away now?
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah? Yeah, no, no, no true story, true story.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well it's a good thing. Maggie woman, not eat dinner,
funky ass.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Maggie woman.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Need to wash it? Never mind? It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Can't I am six forty alive everywhere in the iHeartRadio
app and on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We have the final thought coming up in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly Onto man from
KFI AM six.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Fortyfi AM six forty. It is Later with mo Kelly.
We're still live on YouTube and I wonder why is it.
Everyone waits till the last second to get onto the
YouTube stream. It's like we got another thirty five people
who logged on like he in the last segment or
so we'll take it.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Make sure you like and subscribe.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Coming up in just a few moments, we'll be Coast
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Speaker 2 (26:22):
Right now, Good evening, sir, so Kelly.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, sorry, last night when you went to me, we
got here with a superstorm and a knocked out the
power to everything.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Oh wow, is everything okay?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Everything's fine. We've got generators in the studio so that
kept us going okay, and I couldn't get to you.
But tonight we're going to talk about RFK and the
assassination of nineteen sixty eight, and then later on in
the program UFOs at Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yes, yes, thank you so much, charge.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Thank you very welcome.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Have a great night.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
All right, let's see how many cliches I can fit
into this introduction of my final thought. It's time to
get down to brass tax tacks. Now the rubber is
going to meet the road. It's white knuckle time. Let's
get down to business. There's trouble right here in River City,
(27:18):
fa FO. I think that's enough. The point is that
we're getting ready to get a real sense of where
this economy is headed.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
In this month of Bay.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
The stock market is up, it's down, it's up, it's down,
but still down overall for the year. It had a
rally this week. Earlier this week, GDP for Q one
quarter one was reported as negative point three percent. That's
down from two point four percent in Q four of
twenty twenty four. Put another way, if the GDP for
(27:52):
Q two comes back negative as well, will officially be
in a recession in the near term.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Though.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
We'll go to get the April jobs report, and as
of this commentary, job growth is expected to be cut
in half from.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
The March numbers.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But speaking of job slash unemployment, adjacent to that, the
Labor Department reported yesterday the job less claims jumped by
eighteen thousand to two hundred and forty one thousand in
the week ending April twenty six. That's the highest level
since early October, another indicator of a rapidly slowing economy.
(28:30):
After easing slightly in March, mortgage rates rose again in April,
returning to last year's levels amid market uncertainty surrounding government
trade and economic policies i e. Tariffs, a shift that
is expected to slow buyer and seller activity. Now that's
according to realtor dot com. And if they're right, the
housing market is now also going to slow, another major
(28:54):
economic indicator.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
But mo, I'm not in a market to buy a house.
Why should I care?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, A slower housing market means less housing construction, which
means fewer materials purchased. YadA YadA, yadah blah blah blah.
GDP is more likely to take another kick in the
balls and so forth. But let me make it even
more local and more relatable. McDonald's US sales shrank three
point six percent during this first quarter, and that was
(29:22):
just reported today. The company blamed quote unquote bad winter
weather and a more cautious consumer due to say it
with me, economic uncertainty, bad weather, Okay, whatever, But that
drop is the worst in McDonald's USA revenue since the
eight point seven percent plunge during the second quarter of
(29:43):
twenty twenty. And you might remember that was pandemic. But Moe,
why aren't you talking about the prices of eggs? Sure,
let's do that. Let's disregard all major indicators to talk
about just one food item. On March fourth, eggs hitting
all time high, averaging eight point excuse me, eight dollars
(30:03):
and sixteen cents per dozen. March twenty six, it was
down to two dollars and ninety two cents a dozen.
President Trump, looking at those numbers, thus far has delivered
on his promise to bring down.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
The cost of eggs.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Not on day one, but eggs are less dead before
the election. The two dollars in ninety two cents was
March twenty six, but as of today, they're back up
to three dollars and fifteen cents and rising again.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
So you can go celebrate with as many omelets as
you like.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Inflation and there's a point to all this, but I
want to lay out the facts. Inflation was two point
eight percent in February and two point four percent in March.
We'll see what the threat and implementation of tariffs have
done to the inflation rate. We'll find out very soon
May thirteenth. To be exact, I say we'll see because
everything from toys to tires to close mainly come from China.
(30:57):
The tariff rate on China is presently one hundred in
twenty four point one percent. You're gonna feel that no
matter what anyone else tells you, Like we told you
earlier tonight about how Xbox raised their prices for consoles
by one hundred dollars and Xbox doesn't even make their
consoles in China, They're made in Taiwan. That should be
(31:19):
a hint for what's coming. Here's some local proof. The
Los Angeles Port is expecting a thirty five percent drop
in cargo from Asia just next week. That's according to
the port's executive director just announced today. Major American retailers
have now stopped all shipments from China, and that contributes
(31:41):
to around forty five percent of traffic in Los Angeles Port.
That means longshoremen will be out of work count on it.
The final goods which preceded the new China tariffs have
hit US ports, meaning everything else going forward will be
under the new tariffs. You the consumer will feel that
(32:03):
starting next week, either in higher prices, empty shelves, or
some combination of both. President Trump has argued that we
will feel some short term pain, and it's for a
larger good. Maybe maybe. But here's some more facts. Exactly,
zero new trade deals have been made. Zero, So we're
(32:24):
still at the starting line. We haven't even gotten going yet.
And just in case you don't know, each and every
supposed new trade deal must be ratified by Congress.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
That's just civics. That's not me as civics.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
So it doesn't matter who may say we have a
new trade deal with some country. It doesn't matter any
news report that you see until it is ratified by Congress,
it doesn't exist. Now let me get back to the
idea of short term paid and I want to take
my time with this. Not everybody's idea of short term
is even remotely comparable.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Is it six months, is it a year?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Is it two years?
Speaker 3 (32:59):
The clocks it starts ticking on short term whatever that
is starting this month. The stock market volatility, that was
all about uncertainty. That's why it went up, it went down,
it went up, it went down. But May and moving
forward will be about the real, not the hypothetical nor
the theoretical. So let's be clear, this is not going
to be resolved Stephan, you're asking this is not going
(33:21):
to be resolved before the holiday season. It only it
not only impacts purchases by corporations for the holiday season,
but also seasonal hires. It's all been funning games, arguing
on social media. I love doing it, going back and
forth with you and others about what is actually happening
in our economy. But now you will start to see
(33:43):
and feel the road, the rubber as it hits it.
It's bumps and potholes. Short term is relative. Everybody. Everybody
has a plan. Pay thresholds are relative. Everybody thinks they
can withstand pain.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
But remember, like.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Mike Tyson used to say during his heyday, everybody has
a plan right up until they get hit in the mouth. Well,
I'm here to tell you punches start this month. You
better stick and move. For KFI, I am six forty,
I'm MO Kelly.
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