June 13, 2025 • 28 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – “The Sex Doctor Is In” w/ Sam Zia, MA LMFT (#106352), PhD Candidate, Human Sexuality delving into the importance of knowing the history of your conception AND the textbook definition of being a ‘Dad’…PLUS – Thoughts on ABC News firing Anchor Terry Moran over a social media post calling President Trump a “world-class hater” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
k F I A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Sam Z sex Doc. He's a sam stop, He's.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
A sex doctor. Sext do the sex dot key dot later.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Leach Mo K I am six forty the sex doctor
is in sam Z and let's get to it. Father's
Day is almost upon us. I shuddered to think, how
you're gonna connect some of these dots. But what are
we talking about tonight?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Well? I want to know if how many people here
know their origin story?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I know about the night in which I was conceived. Okay,
so you know details, you know like what unfortunately? Yes, okay,
for better or for worse?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You know. Now, usually when people think about it, I'm
sure everybody has mixed feelings about it. To say the least,
some people are like, there's no bigger ice bath on
being turned on than thinking about your parents getting it
on right, you know, things like that. Now I'm okay
with it. I'm cool with it. I'm walking, I'm cool
with being walking, talking proof that my parents porked in
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the seventies.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Huh exactly.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
But now the only thing I just the only thing
I really don't want to know is what position they were,
and that's all I don't need.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's the only thing you don't want. That's a lot
that I don't want to know.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I don't that's the one thing because that position would
forever be banned in my head, and I don't like
that idea. I like keeping things open and whatever position
suits the need, you take it. Now, most of us
associate our origins with our parents having sex and the
nights that they were conceived. But and that's how I
was for almost my entire life up until about a
(02:09):
month ago. Where I was I was driving up Ventura
in the valley and I was going to pick up
my kid from school, and I flashed back to a
conversation I had with my parents of one of our
mutual friends. Actually was their Mona Shake, wonderful human, love
her to death. She asked questions to my parents that
I never even thought about asking, and it unlocked a
(02:30):
lot of answers that I did I didn't actually realize.
And she really got in depth on how their actual
origin story went, and it made me realize that my
origin story didn't start the night I was conceived. It
was years before. Now my mom was set to marry
some other guy and this arrange marriage. Yeah, arranged marriage
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back in the day. And she just didn't like the
guy she was and she liked the guy. She was friendly,
nice enough guy. They're still like. My parents and them
are still friends, totally, really like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Tell us about your ethnic background, so people know.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
My parents were from Iran. I was born out here.
I was born in Cleveland, So I've never been out there.
I've never seen anything out there. I've this is the
only home I've ever known. But my parents moved from
out there, and my parents grew up back in a
time where Iran was very much Americanized.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It was it was before the fall of Shot.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, way before the fall of the Shot in the
nineteen eighties and Coomane and all the hell that he
unleashed and all the stuff that's still being unleashed over there.
He was much more It was much more Americanized, and
it was much more people. You know, people were allowed
to go out with each other and hold hands and
you know, engage with each other and you know, having relationships. Now,
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my mom called off the marriage, told her dad that
she didn't want to do it. They called off the marriage. Now,
my my dad was friends with her the whole time,
like they've been friends throughout high school.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
He was stuck in zone. My dad was in love
with her the whole time.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm friend Zoni, but he also knew he was friend
zoned and he was like, I'm okay with just being
friends and I'm just gonna be cool with this now.
I didn't have enough wherewithal in my younger years to
ask my parents the questions to get to this point,
and later on these these questions came up, and it
was great the answers that they gave because I got
to see something really cool. My mom initially when my
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dad said, hey, you know, like she was trying to
figure out what she wanted to do, and my dad
was like, well, why don't you marry me?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And you Dan said it to your mom.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, my dad said, you know, like she didn't know
what she wanted to do with her life after she
broke things off, and so my dad was like, why
don't you marry me? And my dad he's you know,
five to seven, you know, not the I've seen other
Persian guys that were more handsome, more attractive, and but
you know, he's this dude with this lip umbrella mustache.
I for my entire life has never seen my dad's
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upper lip. So I I my dad is cool, he's
a funny guy. But I'm like, you know, dude, how
did a god physically and emotionally in the weed that
she just is? My mom? It was gorgeous. She's got yeah, no,
and it's not just a game. The specific line. I
didn't realize how much game my dad had. The line
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he used to get my mom was epic, legendary. It's
some of the best poetry I've ever heard of my life.
My mom said, I'm sorry, I don't love you enough
to want to marry you. Ooh, and my dad said,
I'll promise I'll love you enough for the both of us.
That damn. So, instead of thinking of the cold shower,
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that is the moment that my parents boned in the seventies,
excuse me, uh huh, I now associate my origin story
with something way cooler than that, with the moment that
my dad showed the courage and took a chance on
someone who was so far out of his league and
nailed it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But see, that's the best part, if only because he
didn't have anything to lose. He was not going to
be knocked out of the friend zone by shooting his shot.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, he took a shot and it worked. They're still
together fifty plus years later. I mean, that's amazing. And
I while I was driving up to see my kid,
I burst into tears because it occurred to me. Without
that line, I don't exist. The kid that I'm going
to pick up from school doesn't exist. That's my origin story.
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Now I can for a lot of people going back
thinking back to like, my parents had sex one day,
and that's enough to make me, you know, like goodbye
erections for the next twenty years. But this makes it
so now I associate my origin with something that doesn't
have any like you know, like religious shame or any
kind of bugaboo about it. I'm cool with where at
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like looking at my origin story as being the moment
that my dad took a chance on somebody who was
way out of his lead.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We got to go to a break. Stephan, do you
know your origin story? I do not and don't want
to know. Okay, Mark Ronnerd, do you know your origin story?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I'm sure it was my dad asking my mom if
she had change for a fifty or something like that.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well done, well Dune.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't want to know, Okay, I don't know about Tuala.
I don't know if you can hear right now. I
think he's working on the podcast. I know mine.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I just very quickly. My mother had come out to California.
They were in process of moving to California from Washington,
d C. My father had set up a house out
here with one of his cousins. My mom was living
out here by herself for a while with my older sister.
My father was finishing up things in DC. Then he
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was like maybe six months or so that they were
physically a part.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
He comes to California.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To visit and then go back and I think maybe
pack up the house or something like that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
As a story is told to me.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And they had one night in which they were to
catch up, that's my phraseology of it. And so they
know that was the night in which I was conceived.
They were just I guess, hot and horny for each
other and hadn't seen each other in six months. I mean, look,
that's what it was. Yeah, we're all grown, Yeah, that's
what it was.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Now I have a fun part and we'll go to break.
I know we're running behind but I I went and
looked at what song was number one on the around
the time I was conceived, And chances are my parents
were having no to MacArthur.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Park Donna Summer.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, that was number one song in America at the
time I was conceived. Oh, not even the Richard Harris one.
Come on, MacArthur Park is melting in the dark. Someone
left the cake out in the rain.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
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Speaker 4 (08:47):
Forty KFI A six forty YouTube iss Later with Moe
Kelly and the Sex Doctor is still in sam Zia.
We're talking about in a roundabout way, Father's Day, Ye,
love and relationships and sexuality, conception.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Where else are we going tonight?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Origin stories basically, And we talked in the last segment
about origin stories and I had to do the math,
but you know, tracing back the you know, the from
my birth to the point, like you know, I was
born premature by like two and a half months, so
I had to go six and a half months.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh yeah, I was ten weeks early. I went home
the next day. Apparently I was totally like healthy and
everything really.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Cool different world.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Now yeah, no, now nowadays, everybody and other kids at
that time were being incubated longer. And I was healthy
enough to go. I could move my head, I was
looking up and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That was two and a half weeks earlier, and I
was like six pounds, I was underweight.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I was I was small, but then I filled up nicely.
But then, yeah, I I attribute my origin now to
the chances that my father took to get to the
point of where to the point where they had actual sex.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Because in my story, my mother pursued my father hmmm,
and he didn't know that my mother was after him.
The legend was that she brought her mother to like
a parent's weekend, and she went to her mother and said,
see that little boy over there, I'm gonna make him mine.
And my father, who had a girlfriend at the time,
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had no idea that his life had been written for him.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, the scheme, that's a plot and plan. Yeah, the
woman has already chosen you, Sam, you don't even know it.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I get the feeling that's how it is. And then
we just are like okay, right, like all right, let's go. Yeah,
I'll follow he likes me I like her. Yeah, she
makes me feel good and she doesn't make me feel
anything negative about myself?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
And the negative is earned, that's that's the thing. If
it's unearned, unearned negativity, then that's something that's not a
good fit. But if it's something where you earn the negativity,
then great, that's fine. That's the per and who should
be calling you out on that stuff? Now? I did
the math tracing back for my birth to find out
exactly what song was playing when I was born or
when I was conceived. I know what was number one
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in the country when I was born. It was Reunited
Peaches and Herb.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Do I have to sing it? Or is steff I'm
gonna play it?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
No, we can give it time before we get there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, go ahead, keep going though.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Now that's the thing is so much of us associate
our origins with sex, which I mean, obviously, without it,
we're not here. And I look at the chances that
and the things that happened that led to my kid's birth,
and the steps that both me and her mom had
to take, and even though we're not together, we've found
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ways to co parent and that is so effective and
beautiful that our kids aren't missing a beat, and I
give her all the credit in the world. I think
she's amazing, the best mom in the world and one
of my closest friends. And we love and care about
each other so much that we know that we're not
right for each other, so we cheerlead each other to
be happy.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I'm not going to give all of Tauala's business, boy,
but Tuala and his ex wife are fantastic at co parenting.
Even though their marriage may have ended, they found a
way to be not only friendly, but both actively engaged
in the welfare of their kids.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And that's more uncommon than common.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
It is, and it becomes problematic, and sexual relationships for
me and people i've dated down ever since then, because
when people get close enough to me to the point
where they want to actually have a relationship, it becomes
a point of important communication. I have to communicate the
nature of the relationship I have with my kids mom,
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so that I know that the person who I'm dating
or whoever I'm engaging with is going to be on
board and not get jealous or feel insecure about their
place in my life because there's a reason why I'm
snuggling up to them. And having sex with them and
not with the kid the mother of my own kids.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But sometimes people do blos those lines and make it complicated.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, but one of the best things I've ever I've
ever learned is that the best relationships sometimes are the
ones that know when to end. Yes, sometimes the best
relationships are the ones that know when to end. And
it takes good parenting and good being A good father
a great lesson that I learned. The job of a
dad is to love the mom, regardless of whether you're
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with her or not. Right because their happiness is contingent
Your kids happiness is contingent on their happiness and your
individual happiness as well. So as a father, it's important
to cheerlead the mom whether you're not with them or not,
just like you would expect them to cheerlead for you
to be happy as well. To the dads making it
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work is good co parents and balancing things out with
hardworking moms, dads doing it on their own, single dads,
stepdads picking up the slack for hardworking moms.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Let's hear for the stepdads.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Stepdads, you get all of the love here too. Happy
Father's Day to all of you and seriously Happy Father's Day.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Dan.
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Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And I want to talk about this earlier in the weekend.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it,
but it needed to be addressed. The first the suspension
and then the eventual firing of now former ABC News
correspondent Terry Moran, and opinions about it were all over
the place. If you don't know, Terry Moran late one
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night put the screed on social media about the Trump
administration and Stephen Miller, and was very personal and it
wasn't about the content. It was how people reacting to, like, well,
can't you do that? He's Ona's free time. It's this
personal social media and I try to talk about media literacy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's well, these.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Other anchors can always give their opinions, and they don't
understand that first Terry Moran was broadcast news. There's a
different expectation, there's a different do different laws governing the
SCC as far as how you deliver news. Different contract
situations for people who work for broadcasts as opposed to cable.
(15:29):
Cable is just opinion and editorial is not guided in
content by the FCC. And I always make this analogy
where you know, it could be MSNBC, it could be
Fox News, it could be Comedy Central. They're all cable.
They can talk about news however they want. They're not
held to any external editorial standard. But with broadcast news
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you have to make it very clear. You know, I'm
Walter Conncaid ron Kite, and this is my editorial on
the Vietnam War. It's very, very different where you turn
on cable news. This is what I think. So and
so's an idiot. So and so as an idiot. By
the way, vote Trump. You know, you can have cable
news hosts show up to Trump rallies and it's.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Not illegal.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yes, there are questions about whether you should, but it's
not specifically crossing the line. And I've worked in many
positions as an actual journalist, as in news, as in who, what, where, when, why, how?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't work in that capacity. Now.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I'm an on air personality, so I'm supposed to give
my opinions and riff on the news. Now, when there's
breaking news, I try to keep it more down the middle.
I'm just letting you know what's going on. But it's
within my job description to tell you what I feel.
How I feel about anyone and everyone, from Donald Trump
to Kamala Harris to Barack Obama, anyone that I want. However,
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I feel within the boundaries of good standards and practices
as far as how caf I wants to represent itself,
and I can use social media, but even if I
get too far out there, I can be fired if
I do something which embarrasses the country, the company. Terry
Moran was a traditional broadcast journalist. He doesn't and did
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not have that type of latitude. And people need to
understand just because you're not at your job or on
your job, you are still representing your job. I can
do something which is very embarrassing the CAFI and iHeartMedia
and not even be criminal in nature. And even if
it happened to be criminal and I were to get
arrested and not convicted, I'm still violating terms of my contract.
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And that's what people don't understand by and laws. They
want to compare these apples and oranges. How is it
Bill Mark and say what he wants. But Terry Moran
can you don't understand Bill Maher is a comedian, He's
not in an editorial, he's not in a broadcast news capacity,
and he's on cable. You know, there's no one to boycott.
There's not about a fear of losing some advertisers. So
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Bill has more latitude, dude, than a Terry Moran. And
that's why I don't people. I don't think since there's
lacking media literacy, they don't understand these distinctions.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
What say you, Mark, Well, you could debate if Terry
Moran crossed a line, but I don't think it should
have ended his career there, which was well in excess
of two decades. I mean, we know ABC had already
caved to the Trump administration for something fairly questionable, but
they bent the knee. And how about this radical idea,
Support your journalists. It's appropriate for journalists, every journalist to
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be for things like democracy, the law, basic human decency.
You don't have to feign objectivity about that kind of stuff.
And it serves no one when journalists don't say the obvious.
It doesn't add to their credibility. We also have a
free press and free speech laid out in our constitution. Also,
you know, I take your point about the difference between
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broadcast and cable news, but there's an insane double standard
in the news media. Do you think for one second
that somebody working as a journalist at Fox would have
been sack for something similar to what Terry Moran posted
online if it was aimed at a Democrat, No way
they would have gotten Rais in a new show. The
asymmetry in news media is ridiculous. Also, news operations have
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to be independent and free of interference from the politics
of the owners. So, for instance, we know that the
CEO of CNN's a Trump donor. So is the CEO
of ABC, which employed Terry Moran, CBS, the same NBC,
the same MSNBC, which you might not believe that their
CEO is a Trump donor. We can't quantify the effect
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any of that has on their news coverage. But the
point is we shouldn't have to. We shouldn't have to
wonder about it or worry about it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Well said, The only thing I would take issue is
when you mentioned the First Amendment in free speech. Some
people don't know and they need to be reminded just
because you have the First Amendment, which protects against prosecution,
and you know, for what you believe or what you say,
it doesn't mean you get to keep your job.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
No, that's we could argue about that for hours. But
I mean, I will die on the hill of the
free press, which has been under attack NonStop in the
United States.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
It's noble, it's noble. Tara Moran has already resurfaced. He's
already got a new job. So it's not like his
career is over. Well what did he pop up on
substack or something something like that. But I'm saying he'll
he'll be okay, He'll be okay. And yes, you made
a great point that I should have highlighted that this
is happening against the backdrop of ABC and that fifteen
million dollar lawsuit settlement with the Trump administration, So this
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is not discreete as in separate from that you have
this is all together. It's Later with mo Kelly, check
in with George Norrie and Coast Coast and also have
my final thought. It has to do with the events
earlier today with Senator Padia.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (20:51):
Forty KFI AM six forty later with Mo Kelly, Let's
check in with George Norrince. He was coming up on
Coast Coast Am. George, good to talk to you again.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Finally I'm what a week huh? But it's not over yet.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
No yet. By the way, I want to thank Michael
Monks from your staff for doing just a great job
on our network show updating us on the latest.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thing hasn't been great. It's really good to have them.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Sure is. Anyways, we're going to talk about monsters. We're
going to talk about the Natalie Holloway case. It's twenty
years old, and just get back to some normalcy on
Coast to Coast.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
At least for one night. Can't promise you about tomorrow
or Saturday, No, sir, who knows? Yes, talk soon, right.
And there are some things you just don't do. There
are some things you just do not ever do. And
I like to use relationships because everyone's been in a relationship.
Not everyone has worked for an elected official, or been
to a press briefing in a professional capacity, or attended
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like a city council meeting. Not everyone has those experiences
to draw upon. But as surely as you can hear me, Sam,
Carniesia Tawalla, Stephan, even Mark. Everyone you know who is
not a child Mark, it's kind of a child. But
outside of that has been I know, Marcus, like straight bullet,
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everyone's been in a relationship. And there are some things
you just don't do, like, for example, and I have
the sex doctor here with me, he may or may
not agree. You don't invite excess to your wedding, You
don't date exes of your friends.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And they're not hard.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And fast rules, but you know, like put it this way,
it's like it's put on a wedding invitation right next
to formal attire reception at four pm. No kids are
people who you've previously slept with with the bride or groom.
It's not a hard and fast rule, but what is it.
It's a courtesy, it's a level of respect, it's a norm.
It's a tradition that most of us kind of know.
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Don't need to be told. And let me stay with
weddings for a second. Women pretty much know that you
don't wear white to someone else's wedding. And Carnacia shaking
a head, she knows what I'm talking about you don't
try to upstage the bride and oh yes, I've seen
it doesn't make it any less cringey. There are some
things you just don't do. And if the expected attire
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on that invitation I told you about says formal or
semi formal attire, that doesn't mean show up in a
bikini or speed up. Why because there are some things
said with me you just don't do, because you respect
either either the person, the tradition, or both. This country,
and I'm getting to the point, does not have any
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more dignity, decency, or decorum, and does not see any
value in it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
There used to be a time that.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
We would laugh at like the South Korean National Assembly
or the British Parliament, and how members would openly jeer
and physically confront each other, sometimes even coming to blows. Remember,
we used to laugh at that. We the United States
of America used to laugh at other countries and their
incibility because we and our haughty arrogance saw ourselves above
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such indignity, indecency, and in decorum, because that would never
happened here, so we thought. And I remember a very
young congressman by the name of Lindsey Graham back in
nineteen ninety eight, during the Bill Clinton impeachment, made this
appeal to our higher beliefs about what we expect out
of the office our institutions, talking about, you know, we
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had a moral responsibility. We need to bring respect back
to the institution of the of the presidency.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We need to cleanse the oval office.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Talked about cleansing, honor, integrity, these high minded ideals. But
we're not in that country anymore, even though many of
those same people in office then are in office now.
Back in nineteen ninety eight, I'm sure that the incident
between the Secretary of Homeland Security Christy Nolan and Senator
Alex Padilla, that would have never happened. It would never
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have happened. It would have been unthinkable and unconscionable. It
would have never risen to the perceived need to forcibly
remove a senior senator from a room and place him
in in handcuffs. It would have never happened. But you
know what, we're not that country anymore. We are a
shameless nation lacking the self awareness to best appreciate the
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value of shame. Shame is valuable. Let me go back
to that wedding analogy I keep talking about. Imagine you're
a guest at a wedding for a close family member,
a friend. Let's say you're a groomsman or a bridesmaid
and you get into a fistfight with someone on the
dance floor. Shame would remind you that it should have
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never happened, regardless who may have been right or wrong.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
That was that was.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
A solution available other than a fight.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
But now you've embarrassed yourself, You've embarrassed your spouse, spouse,
your you've embarrassed your date, your family, your friend's colleagues,
and ruin somebody's wedding. But when you don't have any shame,
none of that matters. Here's the problem. When you no
longer have any shame, there is no bottom. There is
no bottom, There is nothing off limits. Why not have
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a fistfight on the congressional floor. Why not arrest any
member of Congress who asks a question at your press
conference that you don't approve of because they walk forward
somewhat aggressively. Why not manhandle anyone you want anywhere? Because
nothing matters anymore. Imagine standing up at the State of
the Union and then yelling out a question at the president,
whoever the president is, and then forcibly removed and handcuffed
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in congressional chambers.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I can't love this country more than it is willing
to love itself. Impolitic and uncomfortable questions happen at every
single town hall, every single council meeting, every elected official
or appointees, press conference, every single one. I've covered them.
They happen every single time. Because if what happened today,
the physical manhandling of Senator Padea with no self reflection,
(26:50):
is deemed okay and acceptable, then we've lost our way
as a country, and I don't think there's any way back.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
There is no then shining city on a hill.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
There is no American exceptionalism, if that is who we
are right now, there is no great America to get
back to or make ourselves back into, because if today,
just today is a supposed step closer to making America
great again, then in fact we were never great and
just another one of those countries we used to laugh at,
(27:22):
because we would then be no better than them, you know,
the same countries which have since passed us in education,
passed us in healthcare, passed US in technology and most importantly,
in economic strength. We used to laugh at them, but
now we're behind them and all those leading indicators. I
can't care about this country more than it does itself,
(27:45):
and you cannot shame those who have no shame. You
may now kiss the bride for k IF. I am
six forty, I'm O Kelly kay Pass.
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Leach Mo K I am six forty the sex doctor
is in sam Z and let's get to it. Father's
Day is almost upon us. I shuddered to think, how
you're gonna connect some of these dots. But what are
we talking about tonight?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Well? I want to know if how many people here
know their origin story?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I know about the night in which I was conceived. Okay,
so you know details, you know like what unfortunately? Yes, okay,
for better or for worse?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You know. Now, usually when people think about it, I'm
sure everybody has mixed feelings about it. To say the least,
some people are like, there's no bigger ice bath on
being turned on than thinking about your parents getting it
on right, you know, things like that. Now I'm okay
with it. I'm cool with it. I'm walking, I'm cool
with being walking, talking proof that my parents porked in
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the seventies.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Huh exactly.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
But now the only thing I just the only thing
I really don't want to know is what position they were,
and that's all I don't need.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That's the only thing you don't want. That's a lot
that I don't want to know.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
I don't that's the one thing because that position would
forever be banned in my head, and I don't like
that idea. I like keeping things open and whatever position
suits the need, you take it. Now, most of us
associate our origins with our parents having sex and the
nights that they were conceived. But and that's how I
was for almost my entire life up until about a
(02:09):
month ago. Where I was I was driving up Ventura
in the valley and I was going to pick up
my kid from school, and I flashed back to a
conversation I had with my parents of one of our
mutual friends. Actually was their Mona Shake, wonderful human, love
her to death. She asked questions to my parents that
I never even thought about asking, and it unlocked a
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lot of answers that I did I didn't actually realize.
And she really got in depth on how their actual
origin story went, and it made me realize that my
origin story didn't start the night I was conceived. It
was years before. Now my mom was set to marry
some other guy and this arrange marriage. Yeah, arranged marriage
(02:53):
back in the day. And she just didn't like the
guy she was and she liked the guy. She was friendly,
nice enough guy. They're still like. My parents and them
are still friends, totally, really like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Tell us about your ethnic background, so people know.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
My parents were from Iran. I was born out here.
I was born in Cleveland, So I've never been out there.
I've never seen anything out there. I've this is the
only home I've ever known. But my parents moved from
out there, and my parents grew up back in a
time where Iran was very much Americanized.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It was it was before the fall of Shot.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah, way before the fall of the Shot in the
nineteen eighties and Coomane and all the hell that he
unleashed and all the stuff that's still being unleashed over there.
He was much more It was much more Americanized, and
it was much more people. You know, people were allowed
to go out with each other and hold hands and
you know, engage with each other and you know, having relationships. Now,
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my mom called off the marriage, told her dad that
she didn't want to do it. They called off the marriage. Now,
my my dad was friends with her the whole time,
like they've been friends throughout high school.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
He was stuck in zone. My dad was in love
with her the whole time.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm friend Zoni, but he also knew he was friend
zoned and he was like, I'm okay with just being
friends and I'm just gonna be cool with this now.
I didn't have enough wherewithal in my younger years to
ask my parents the questions to get to this point,
and later on these these questions came up, and it
was great the answers that they gave because I got
to see something really cool. My mom initially when my
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dad said, hey, you know, like she was trying to
figure out what she wanted to do, and my dad
was like, well, why don't you marry me?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And you Dan said it to your mom.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, my dad said, you know, like she didn't know
what she wanted to do with her life after she
broke things off, and so my dad was like, why
don't you marry me? And my dad he's you know,
five to seven, you know, not the I've seen other
Persian guys that were more handsome, more attractive, and but
you know, he's this dude with this lip umbrella mustache.
I for my entire life has never seen my dad's
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upper lip. So I I my dad is cool, he's
a funny guy. But I'm like, you know, dude, how
did a god physically and emotionally in the weed that
she just is? My mom? It was gorgeous. She's got yeah, no,
and it's not just a game. The specific line. I
didn't realize how much game my dad had. The line
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he used to get my mom was epic, legendary. It's
some of the best poetry I've ever heard of my life.
My mom said, I'm sorry, I don't love you enough
to want to marry you. Ooh, and my dad said,
I'll promise I'll love you enough for the both of us.
That damn. So, instead of thinking of the cold shower,
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that is the moment that my parents boned in the seventies,
excuse me, uh huh, I now associate my origin story
with something way cooler than that, with the moment that
my dad showed the courage and took a chance on
someone who was so far out of his league and
nailed it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But see, that's the best part, if only because he
didn't have anything to lose. He was not going to
be knocked out of the friend zone by shooting his shot.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, he took a shot and it worked. They're still
together fifty plus years later. I mean, that's amazing. And
I while I was driving up to see my kid,
I burst into tears because it occurred to me. Without
that line, I don't exist. The kid that I'm going
to pick up from school doesn't exist. That's my origin story.
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Now I can for a lot of people going back
thinking back to like, my parents had sex one day,
and that's enough to make me, you know, like goodbye
erections for the next twenty years. But this makes it
so now I associate my origin with something that doesn't
have any like you know, like religious shame or any
kind of bugaboo about it. I'm cool with where at
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like looking at my origin story as being the moment
that my dad took a chance on somebody who was
way out of his lead.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
We got to go to a break. Stephan, do you
know your origin story? I do not and don't want
to know. Okay, Mark Ronnerd, do you know your origin story?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I'm sure it was my dad asking my mom if
she had change for a fifty or something like that.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Well done, well Dune.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't want to know, Okay, I don't know about Tuala.
I don't know if you can hear right now. I
think he's working on the podcast. I know mine.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I just very quickly. My mother had come out to California.
They were in process of moving to California from Washington,
d C. My father had set up a house out
here with one of his cousins. My mom was living
out here by herself for a while with my older sister.
My father was finishing up things in DC. Then he
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was like maybe six months or so that they were
physically a part.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
He comes to California.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
To visit and then go back and I think maybe
pack up the house or something like that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
As a story is told to me.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
And they had one night in which they were to
catch up, that's my phraseology of it. And so they
know that was the night in which I was conceived.
They were just I guess, hot and horny for each
other and hadn't seen each other in six months. I mean, look,
that's what it was. Yeah, we're all grown, Yeah, that's
what it was.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Now I have a fun part and we'll go to break.
I know we're running behind but I I went and
looked at what song was number one on the around
the time I was conceived, And chances are my parents
were having no to MacArthur.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Park Donna Summer.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah, that was number one song in America at the
time I was conceived. Oh, not even the Richard Harris one.
Come on, MacArthur Park is melting in the dark. Someone
left the cake out in the rain.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
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Kelly and the Sex Doctor is still in sam Zia.
We're talking about in a roundabout way, Father's Day, Ye,
love and relationships and sexuality, conception.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Where else are we going tonight?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Origin stories basically, And we talked in the last segment
about origin stories and I had to do the math,
but you know, tracing back the you know, the from
my birth to the point, like you know, I was
born premature by like two and a half months, so
I had to go six and a half months.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh yeah, I was ten weeks early. I went home
the next day. Apparently I was totally like healthy and
everything really.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Cool different world.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Now yeah, no, now nowadays, everybody and other kids at
that time were being incubated longer. And I was healthy
enough to go. I could move my head, I was
looking up and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That was two and a half weeks earlier, and I
was like six pounds, I was underweight.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I was I was small, but then I filled up nicely.
But then, yeah, I I attribute my origin now to
the chances that my father took to get to the
point of where to the point where they had actual sex.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Because in my story, my mother pursued my father hmmm,
and he didn't know that my mother was after him.
The legend was that she brought her mother to like
a parent's weekend, and she went to her mother and said,
see that little boy over there, I'm gonna make him mine.
And my father, who had a girlfriend at the time,
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had no idea that his life had been written for him.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, the scheme, that's a plot and plan. Yeah, the
woman has already chosen you, Sam, you don't even know it.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I get the feeling that's how it is. And then
we just are like okay, right, like all right, let's go. Yeah,
I'll follow he likes me I like her. Yeah, she
makes me feel good and she doesn't make me feel
anything negative about myself?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
And the negative is earned, that's that's the thing. If
it's unearned, unearned negativity, then that's something that's not a
good fit. But if it's something where you earn the negativity,
then great, that's fine. That's the per and who should
be calling you out on that stuff? Now? I did
the math tracing back for my birth to find out
exactly what song was playing when I was born or
when I was conceived. I know what was number one
(11:09):
in the country when I was born. It was Reunited
Peaches and Herb.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Do I have to sing it? Or is steff I'm
gonna play it?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
No, we can give it time before we get there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, go ahead, keep going though.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Now that's the thing is so much of us associate
our origins with sex, which I mean, obviously, without it,
we're not here. And I look at the chances that
and the things that happened that led to my kid's birth,
and the steps that both me and her mom had
to take, and even though we're not together, we've found
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ways to co parent and that is so effective and
beautiful that our kids aren't missing a beat, and I
give her all the credit in the world. I think
she's amazing, the best mom in the world and one
of my closest friends. And we love and care about
each other so much that we know that we're not
right for each other, so we cheerlead each other to
be happy.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I'm not going to give all of Tauala's business, boy,
but Tuala and his ex wife are fantastic at co parenting.
Even though their marriage may have ended, they found a
way to be not only friendly, but both actively engaged
in the welfare of their kids.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And that's more uncommon than common.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
It is, and it becomes problematic, and sexual relationships for
me and people i've dated down ever since then, because
when people get close enough to me to the point
where they want to actually have a relationship, it becomes
a point of important communication. I have to communicate the
nature of the relationship I have with my kids mom,
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so that I know that the person who I'm dating
or whoever I'm engaging with is going to be on
board and not get jealous or feel insecure about their
place in my life because there's a reason why I'm
snuggling up to them. And having sex with them and
not with the kid the mother of my own kids.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But sometimes people do blos those lines and make it complicated.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, but one of the best things I've ever I've
ever learned is that the best relationships sometimes are the
ones that know when to end. Yes, sometimes the best
relationships are the ones that know when to end. And
it takes good parenting and good being A good father
a great lesson that I learned. The job of a
dad is to love the mom, regardless of whether you're
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with her or not. Right because their happiness is contingent
Your kids happiness is contingent on their happiness and your
individual happiness as well. So as a father, it's important
to cheerlead the mom whether you're not with them or not,
just like you would expect them to cheerlead for you
to be happy as well. To the dads making it
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work is good co parents and balancing things out with
hardworking moms, dads doing it on their own, single dads,
stepdads picking up the slack for hardworking moms.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Let's hear for the stepdads.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Stepdads, you get all of the love here too. Happy
Father's Day to all of you and seriously Happy Father's Day.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
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Speaker 4 (14:23):
It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
And I want to talk about this earlier in the weekend.
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it,
but it needed to be addressed. The first the suspension
and then the eventual firing of now former ABC News
correspondent Terry Moran, and opinions about it were all over
the place. If you don't know, Terry Moran late one
(14:46):
night put the screed on social media about the Trump
administration and Stephen Miller, and was very personal and it
wasn't about the content. It was how people reacting to, like, well,
can't you do that? He's Ona's free time. It's this
personal social media and I try to talk about media literacy.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
It's well, these.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Other anchors can always give their opinions, and they don't
understand that first Terry Moran was broadcast news. There's a
different expectation, there's a different do different laws governing the
SCC as far as how you deliver news. Different contract
situations for people who work for broadcasts as opposed to cable.
(15:29):
Cable is just opinion and editorial is not guided in
content by the FCC. And I always make this analogy
where you know, it could be MSNBC, it could be
Fox News, it could be Comedy Central. They're all cable.
They can talk about news however they want. They're not
held to any external editorial standard. But with broadcast news
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you have to make it very clear. You know, I'm
Walter Conncaid ron Kite, and this is my editorial on
the Vietnam War. It's very, very different where you turn
on cable news. This is what I think. So and
so's an idiot. So and so as an idiot. By
the way, vote Trump. You know, you can have cable
news hosts show up to Trump rallies and it's.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Not illegal.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yes, there are questions about whether you should, but it's
not specifically crossing the line. And I've worked in many
positions as an actual journalist, as in news, as in who, what, where, when, why, how?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't work in that capacity. Now.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I'm an on air personality, so I'm supposed to give
my opinions and riff on the news. Now, when there's
breaking news, I try to keep it more down the middle.
I'm just letting you know what's going on. But it's
within my job description to tell you what I feel.
How I feel about anyone and everyone, from Donald Trump
to Kamala Harris to Barack Obama, anyone that I want. However,
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I feel within the boundaries of good standards and practices
as far as how caf I wants to represent itself,
and I can use social media, but even if I
get too far out there, I can be fired if
I do something which embarrasses the country, the company. Terry
Moran was a traditional broadcast journalist. He doesn't and did
(17:10):
not have that type of latitude. And people need to
understand just because you're not at your job or on
your job, you are still representing your job. I can
do something which is very embarrassing the CAFI and iHeartMedia
and not even be criminal in nature. And even if
it happened to be criminal and I were to get
arrested and not convicted, I'm still violating terms of my contract.
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And that's what people don't understand by and laws. They
want to compare these apples and oranges. How is it
Bill Mark and say what he wants. But Terry Moran
can you don't understand Bill Maher is a comedian, He's
not in an editorial, he's not in a broadcast news capacity,
and he's on cable. You know, there's no one to boycott.
There's not about a fear of losing some advertisers. So
(17:58):
Bill has more latitude, dude, than a Terry Moran. And
that's why I don't people. I don't think since there's
lacking media literacy, they don't understand these distinctions.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
What say you, Mark, Well, you could debate if Terry
Moran crossed a line, but I don't think it should
have ended his career there, which was well in excess
of two decades. I mean, we know ABC had already
caved to the Trump administration for something fairly questionable, but
they bent the knee. And how about this radical idea,
Support your journalists. It's appropriate for journalists, every journalist to
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be for things like democracy, the law, basic human decency.
You don't have to feign objectivity about that kind of stuff.
And it serves no one when journalists don't say the obvious.
It doesn't add to their credibility. We also have a
free press and free speech laid out in our constitution. Also,
you know, I take your point about the difference between
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broadcast and cable news, but there's an insane double standard
in the news media. Do you think for one second
that somebody working as a journalist at Fox would have
been sack for something similar to what Terry Moran posted
online if it was aimed at a Democrat, No way
they would have gotten Rais in a new show. The
asymmetry in news media is ridiculous. Also, news operations have
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to be independent and free of interference from the politics
of the owners. So, for instance, we know that the
CEO of CNN's a Trump donor. So is the CEO
of ABC, which employed Terry Moran, CBS, the same NBC,
the same MSNBC, which you might not believe that their
CEO is a Trump donor. We can't quantify the effect
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any of that has on their news coverage. But the
point is we shouldn't have to. We shouldn't have to
wonder about it or worry about it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Well said, The only thing I would take issue is
when you mentioned the First Amendment in free speech. Some
people don't know and they need to be reminded just
because you have the First Amendment, which protects against prosecution,
and you know, for what you believe or what you say,
it doesn't mean you get to keep your job.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
No, that's we could argue about that for hours. But
I mean, I will die on the hill of the
free press, which has been under attack NonStop in the
United States.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
It's noble, it's noble. Tara Moran has already resurfaced. He's
already got a new job. So it's not like his
career is over. Well what did he pop up on
substack or something something like that. But I'm saying he'll
he'll be okay, He'll be okay. And yes, you made
a great point that I should have highlighted that this
is happening against the backdrop of ABC and that fifteen
million dollar lawsuit settlement with the Trump administration, So this
(20:32):
is not discreete as in separate from that you have
this is all together. It's Later with mo Kelly, check
in with George Norrie and Coast Coast and also have
my final thought. It has to do with the events
earlier today with Senator Padia.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
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Speaker 4 (20:51):
Forty KFI AM six forty later with Mo Kelly, Let's
check in with George Norrince. He was coming up on
Coast Coast Am. George, good to talk to you again.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Finally I'm what a week huh? But it's not over yet.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
No yet. By the way, I want to thank Michael
Monks from your staff for doing just a great job
on our network show updating us on the latest.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thing hasn't been great. It's really good to have them.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Sure is. Anyways, we're going to talk about monsters. We're
going to talk about the Natalie Holloway case. It's twenty
years old, and just get back to some normalcy on
Coast to Coast.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
At least for one night. Can't promise you about tomorrow
or Saturday, No, sir, who knows? Yes, talk soon, right.
And there are some things you just don't do. There
are some things you just do not ever do. And
I like to use relationships because everyone's been in a relationship.
Not everyone has worked for an elected official, or been
to a press briefing in a professional capacity, or attended
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like a city council meeting. Not everyone has those experiences
to draw upon. But as surely as you can hear me, Sam,
Carniesia Tawalla, Stephan, even Mark. Everyone you know who is
not a child Mark, it's kind of a child. But
outside of that has been I know, Marcus, like straight bullet,
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everyone's been in a relationship. And there are some things
you just don't do, like, for example, and I have
the sex doctor here with me, he may or may
not agree. You don't invite excess to your wedding, You
don't date exes of your friends.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And they're not hard.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
And fast rules, but you know, like put it this way,
it's like it's put on a wedding invitation right next
to formal attire reception at four pm. No kids are
people who you've previously slept with with the bride or groom.
It's not a hard and fast rule, but what is it.
It's a courtesy, it's a level of respect, it's a norm.
It's a tradition that most of us kind of know.
(22:45):
Don't need to be told. And let me stay with
weddings for a second. Women pretty much know that you
don't wear white to someone else's wedding. And Carnacia shaking
a head, she knows what I'm talking about you don't
try to upstage the bride and oh yes, I've seen
it doesn't make it any less cringey. There are some
things you just don't do. And if the expected attire
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on that invitation I told you about says formal or
semi formal attire, that doesn't mean show up in a
bikini or speed up. Why because there are some things
said with me you just don't do, because you respect
either either the person, the tradition, or both. This country,
and I'm getting to the point, does not have any
(23:27):
more dignity, decency, or decorum, and does not see any
value in it.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
There used to be a time that.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
We would laugh at like the South Korean National Assembly
or the British Parliament, and how members would openly jeer
and physically confront each other, sometimes even coming to blows. Remember,
we used to laugh at that. We the United States
of America used to laugh at other countries and their
incibility because we and our haughty arrogance saw ourselves above
(23:55):
such indignity, indecency, and in decorum, because that would never
happened here, so we thought. And I remember a very
young congressman by the name of Lindsey Graham back in
nineteen ninety eight, during the Bill Clinton impeachment, made this
appeal to our higher beliefs about what we expect out
of the office our institutions, talking about, you know, we
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had a moral responsibility. We need to bring respect back
to the institution of the of the presidency.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
We need to cleanse the oval office.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Talked about cleansing, honor, integrity, these high minded ideals. But
we're not in that country anymore, even though many of
those same people in office then are in office now.
Back in nineteen ninety eight, I'm sure that the incident
between the Secretary of Homeland Security Christy Nolan and Senator
Alex Padilla, that would have never happened. It would never
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have happened. It would have been unthinkable and unconscionable. It
would have never risen to the perceived need to forcibly
remove a senior senator from a room and place him
in in handcuffs. It would have never happened. But you
know what, we're not that country anymore. We are a
shameless nation lacking the self awareness to best appreciate the
(25:10):
value of shame. Shame is valuable. Let me go back
to that wedding analogy I keep talking about. Imagine you're
a guest at a wedding for a close family member,
a friend. Let's say you're a groomsman or a bridesmaid
and you get into a fistfight with someone on the
dance floor. Shame would remind you that it should have
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never happened, regardless who may have been right or wrong.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
That was that was.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
A solution available other than a fight.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
But now you've embarrassed yourself, You've embarrassed your spouse, spouse,
your you've embarrassed your date, your family, your friend's colleagues,
and ruin somebody's wedding. But when you don't have any shame,
none of that matters. Here's the problem. When you no
longer have any shame, there is no bottom. There is
no bottom, There is nothing off limits. Why not have
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a fistfight on the congressional floor. Why not arrest any
member of Congress who asks a question at your press
conference that you don't approve of because they walk forward
somewhat aggressively. Why not manhandle anyone you want anywhere? Because
nothing matters anymore. Imagine standing up at the State of
the Union and then yelling out a question at the president,
whoever the president is, and then forcibly removed and handcuffed
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in congressional chambers.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I can't love this country more than it is willing
to love itself. Impolitic and uncomfortable questions happen at every
single town hall, every single council meeting, every elected official
or appointees, press conference, every single one. I've covered them.
They happen every single time. Because if what happened today,
the physical manhandling of Senator Padea with no self reflection,
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is deemed okay and acceptable, then we've lost our way
as a country, and I don't think there's any way back.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
There is no then shining city on a hill.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
There is no American exceptionalism, if that is who we
are right now, there is no great America to get
back to or make ourselves back into, because if today,
just today is a supposed step closer to making America
great again, then in fact we were never great and
just another one of those countries we used to laugh at,
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because we would then be no better than them, you know,
the same countries which have since passed us in education,
passed us in healthcare, passed US in technology and most importantly,
in economic strength. We used to laugh at them, but
now we're behind them and all those leading indicators. I
can't care about this country more than it does itself,
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and you cannot shame those who have no shame. You
may now kiss the bride for k IF. I am
six forty, I'm O Kelly kay Pass.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Five and kost HD two, Los Angeles, Orange count eight.
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