July 25, 2025 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – 'The Sex Doctor Is In' with Sam Zia, MA LMFT (#106352), PhD Candidate, Human Sexuality, weighing in on “sexual conservatism,' virginity and why Gen Z is having less sex”…PLUS – Thoughts on the passing of musical great Chuck Mangione, dead at 84 & WWE star Hulk Hogan, dead at 71 - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
kf I A M six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
SAMSI Sex Doc.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
He's a Sam. Stop stop the sex right Kelly.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Later later Kay If I am six forty, it's Later
with Mo Kelly live everywhere on social media and the
iHeartRadio app. The sex Doctor is in put the kids
to bed. Let me put it that way, Sam, It's
great to see you. I saw this article today and
I immediately thought of you in the sense of I
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wanted to get your thoughts on this. And according to
the twenty twenty three Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Youth Risk Behavior Report, it found that adolescent sexual behavior
has declined since twenty thirteen. If you were to just
asked me, I'd assume that it would have increase because
of all the methods and availabilities and options and people
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had and social media apps and the dating apps, that
they'd be more inclined to engage in sexual behavior. But
according to this one in four gen Z adults has
not had partnered sex.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
For example, that was a little bit surprising to see,
just like that specific statistic, twenty five percent of gen
Zers have not had partnered sex. Now we it kind
of goes along the same lines. And I'll get to
a little bit the male loneliness epidemic. I've been hearing
a lot about this on social media and stuff, and
(02:02):
we'll get to that. But the report came out of
the Kinsey Institute was a survey from twenty twenty two.
One out of four Gen ze ers have not had
partnered sex. Sixteen percent of them said that they were
more hesitant after Roe v. Wade was overturned. I thought
that was really yeah, I thought that was, you know,
an interesting point to bring up. It was also kind
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of like a negligible statistic to bring up just in general.
Usually people after they're you know, done having sex and
they have a kid, you know, things tend to move
on after that. But more and more people, from what
I'm seeing, I didn't see this in the article, but
I've seen this in other stories and other articles that've
been posted on the subject. More and more young people
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are getting their emotional needs met through online social relationships,
where a lot in the past, a lot of youth
were much more curious about sex and sexuality, and they
would experiment with each other throughout high school or throughout college. Now,
with the ubiquitous access to porn that a lot of
people have, especially younger people, it may have taken the
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mystique in the sense of taboo out of sex, and
so a lot of their questions are immediately being answered
by porn, which is why it's so important to have
adequate sexual education when it comes to contextualizing porn.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
See, I'm thinking that that would not only desensitize us
or the generation, but it would make it what.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I remember growing up. Let me put it this way.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You know, sex was like, oh my gosh, it was
this magical land that if you're lucky enough one day
you'll get to visit. Now, it's like, it's probably pretty
pass a because it's ever present. And so we hear
the stories of children, be honest, engaging in sexual acts
at a much younger age.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But this study flies in the face of that.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah, well, because a lot of times when, especially when
younger people are engaging in sexual activities, it's them exploring
themselves and exploring you know, and themselves in the context
of other people sexually and now you and before, like,
especially when we were growing up, like the most that
we probably ever had access to was you know, scrambled
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porn on Playboy and like and magazines, our uncle's subscription
that he hit in the bathroom, that that kind of thing,
where nowadays it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So a lot of these questions and a lot of the.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Mystique behind it is just gone, and it makes it
so kids are less likely to have those questions and
try to experiment to find the answers to them. They
see it and they're immediately like, Okay, well that makes sense,
and they're immediately turned off of it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
We're talking about gen Z. But I'm jen X.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I grew up in the age of the I'll say,
the discovery of HIV and AIDS and how that's severely
muted our collective sexual behavior didn't stop it, you know,
because we were still having sex, but we were still
bombarded with like, if you have sex, you're gonna die
type messaging.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, well we had I mean, I remember, I mean
I'm gen X as well, and I remember the lessons
that we learned in the late eighties and early nineties
about protecting yourself. We had, I mean nineteen ninety one,
at the end of it, we had Magic Johnson in
November of ninety one, and then within a month, Freddie
Mercury passed away from Hi.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Where was Rock Hudson in that he.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Was in the eighties eighties, Yeah, mid to late eighties,
that's when Rock Hudson passed away. But really the amount
of exposure towards the dangers of sex really sprouted up
around then, and that's when you in that eras when
you started to see tlc ain't too proud of bed
making condoms a fashion statement where they were very much
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making it so that people were being more mindful and
careful about what they were doing sexually. Unfortunately, and well
you can say for fortunately fortunately, but also unfortunately. The
fortunate thing is medical advancements, especially I mean after Magic
Johnson's announcement, the amount of funding towards HIV age research skyrocketed,
and after that you start to see people, like, you know,
(06:05):
different treatments coming out that were more effective and people
it wasn't the death sentence that it was back in
the nineties. People are living longer, healthier lives. Magic Johnson
is still alive and kicking. Yeah, And that's that's the thing,
is that a lot of the lessons that we Gen
xers learned about sex and sexuality got lost on a
lot of generations, So you're probably going to see more
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cases of you know, people not necessarily knowing what they're
doing sexually as far as disease goes, but the mystique
and the questions of actually, you know, sex and sex
what it actually is. They're getting those questions answered by
the Internet.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Now, okay, if I understand you correctly, whereas our generation
we dealt with the fear and the consequences of gen
Z is not dissuaded by fear.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
They're just disinterested.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, their emotional and physical needs are being met in
other ways. They they have online, real relationships with people.
We were talking about AI. That's a burgeoning field right
now where there's a lot more people getting into relationships
with AI. But there it's it's becoming something where sex
is the game. Like the reward the risk reward of
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it is slowly no longer balancing. More people or less
people are looking to have families and have kids because
their emotional needs are being met in other ways. And
we were talking about how like you know, the there's
like a population slump here and also especially in Japan,
this thing isn't what we're talking about isn't something that's
just impacting us here in the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's almost a worldwide phenomenon.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Right when we say gen Z, we're talking about people
who were born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Those individuals obviously around twenty eight, but they are still
within the sweet spot of the child bearing years. In
other words, they have the lion's share responsibility of having
and starting the families now at this point, and they see, well,
we know that gen Z, they're less likely to drive,
they're less likely to have sex, they're less likely to
start a family.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What drives them? Then?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Really all of their needs are met at home. Guys
are sitting at home playing video games, having no They're
having online conversations with people in their virtual worlds. They
are getting their needs met through. If they're into porn,
they can have their sexual needs met online. If they
want to have more of like that verbal interaction with people,
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they can do it much more safely online by having
like a sexting relationship with somebody versus having an actual
in person relationship. You're starting to see that in Japan,
where they're actually looking for people to move out there
to have babies out there to help stop the decline
in the population out there.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But did you look at a place like China was
like no one child at maximum.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, and that's they've done a good job of controlling
population because they were really pushing the population issue. And
now it's become something where like they China's more or
less known for being so restrictive about having sex and
having kids that that's they mastered the art of birth
control over there.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They've really focused on it.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Where here, I'm we're starting to see, you know, politicians
and billionaires going out of their ways telling people we
need to start having way more kids because they're afraid
of like the workforce here diminishing, and we're trying to
get a lot of people out of this country, I guess,
and we're going to fill those roles with more and
more people.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Let me just respond to that before we go to
break it's it seems to me as counterintuitive because we
already have an exploding homeless population. We already have more
people who are unemployed than jobs. Big picture for the
future will exist, So what would be the argument to
have more kids if we can't accommodate more people.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
It's because more kids means more workers, more people can
be out there working in those jobs that are going
to be coming up. The more we're absolutely and there's
going to be people getting paid less and less money
to do jobs. I mean, really, we used to get
away with having one job. Now all of us have
to have several jobs in order to get by. And
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it's you're gonna need the workforce if you're going to
be eliminating a huge chunk of the population here that's
working actively. And so a lot of the people are
having less and less sex for a bunch of reasons.
Their emotional and sexual needs are being met in other ways.
But now there's also political pressure on people to have kids,
and that changes the discussion because we were talking about
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a little bit last week about some of the laws,
the legislation that's going through aimed at restricting pleasure and
sex and sexual expression. So these are all things that
are now on the table and we'll go into that
in the next I've we've got fourteen states currently that
have anti porn, anti sex toy legislation on the books.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Doctor Samza, the sex doc year is in and he's
holding court. He has a lot of great information for
all of us. It's Later with mo Kelly KFIM six
forty live everywhere on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
KFI AM six forty. The Sex Doctor is in.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Sam Zea continues to join us here in Studio Sam.
Last segment, we were talking about how gen Z has
pulled away from the whole idea of sex as far
as participation. It doesn't have the same level of importance
or influence over their lives in the way that the
previous generations had a control over us, you could say,
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but also that's how people are changing, but also laws
are changing around the country.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Well, the author of the article that you had sent
me was talking about how she was also very much
like consumed with her own virginity growing up, and it
seems like people nowadays, younger people X or gen z
ers are much more are likely to not take that
stuff as seriously. So it's really the game as far
as sex goes, has changed. The information around it. The
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content around it is so easily accessible and people are
actually getting pretty decent information where before a lot of
times people who they you know, when they're looking for
any information regarding sex or sexuality, they'd usually be asking
somebody who has less information in them as far as
that goes, So now the people are getting reasonably good
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sexual information online, it's just making sure you have it
in the right context. But as far as laws go,
and what the problem is is that for all the
good education you can get online about sex and sexuality,
a lot of that stuff is going to be thrown
out with the bathwater with a lot of these uh
legislation going through aim to restrict access to online porn
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and also not just that, restrict access to people getting
adult novelty toys, sex toys like we were talking about
last week.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But we know, just from history, our personal lives, and
you know, life in general, restricting access to pornographic materials
has never decreased either the demand or the access.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Really yeah, But the only thing that it does is
it makes it so people now have to go to
different sources to ask those questions, and the people giving
those answers are going to be ones where, let's say,
the government is going to be much more approving of
what those answers are going to be. So now you're
going to have people not looking online or not having
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as much access, So especially in those formative years when
you may have a lot of questions but you're way
too embarrassed to ask the people around you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So you go online. Now you're not gonna be able
to get any answer.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
So it was different because when I was growing up,
we didn't have any online. Our knowledge base was the
extension of the friends we hung out with. Yeah, you know,
so you asked him, hey, what about this or what
about that? And hopefully you had a decent source to
get information from. Usually you don't because their knuckleheads, just
like you are. Yeah, if you have, you're lucky.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I had an older sibling and so I got to
I got to raid his adult magazine stash because he
was a lot. It was like seven years older than yeaing. Yeah,
so I got to learn a little bit from them. Also,
I was lucky enough to have a family that was
really on top of that stuff. My parents, my mom
and dad, were totally on top of me getting as
much education about sex and sexuality as possible. Most people
(14:30):
do not have parents as accepting of sex and sexuality.
So my mom is a psychoanalyst and her bathroom. Her
toilet seat reading was a book called The New Sex Therapy,
and it had actual pencil sketch drawings in it. So
I learned all about that stuff because I, you know,
I did learn to read on the toylet.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They didn't weird you out, That didn't un nerve you.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
It did, But I also was like, this is interesting.
I was at the same time fascinated by it. So
I just I guess that's where a lot of my
my inclination towards this field kind of got started.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But there's a lot of legislation now going around.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Fourteen states, most recently South Dakota jumped in with laws
that aim to restrict access to online porn by making
people provide either picture of their license, some form of ID,
some way to verify that they are over eighteen. The
Supreme Court voted six to three saying that this is constitutional.
Went right down party lines. It was the the case
(15:30):
was Free Speech Coalition versus Paxton and Texas. More, since
Texas is kind of a bellweather state when it comes
to this kind of legislation, you're slowly going to start
seeing more and more states adopting legislation similar to this.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Just because Texas took that step forward. Absolutely and.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Full disclosure. I'm a member of the Free Speech Coalition.
It's the political action committee that tries to do the
best they can to advocate for the rights of adult
film performers. Uh but yeah, for all of that, and
you know, there's going to be a bunch of other
conservative states following suit.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And this brings up a question for me.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
For all the people demanding smaller government, this seems like
the opposite, where we're finding ways to have the government
start to get directly into our bedroom. I mean we
I brought a bag full of sex toys.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I hate to interrupt you, but this is maybe
you're not old enough to know the ways of the world,
but we were never a country about keeping the government
out of our bedroom. Historically, the government has always been
in our bedroom.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
But I was hoping that, you know, times of change
and people put more of their money where their mouth
is when that with that kind of thing. But I
mean I came in with a bag of sex toys
and lubes and stuff like that last week that if
I had been traveling through and got pulled over in Texas,
I would have been put in prison for distributing like that,
like like the same way that you would get by drugs.
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They have the same kind the laws for sex toys,
and for me, I have a hard time with trying
to legislate people's access to pleasure when it's not harming
anybody else.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That has always been the issue with let's say, prostitution.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
The government has always been in people's business when it
comes to bedroom activity. Always the laws as far as
sodomy going back into the early twentieth century, always been
an issue. And we can say before Loving versus Virginia
as far as interracial marriage has always been in people's
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lives in bedroom. The only difference now is we just
changed the subject matter or the heading. But it's always
been the same, Doctor Sam, I have to run, but
it's always great having you in studio.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You're going to come back and see us next week.
Hopefully I'll be around.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm actually going to be maybe running the Chargers game
because that's the first football game of the season and
I'm still an employee of iHeart.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They have they officially made that announcement yet, I'm not
sure I know that Thursday is the first game. Yeah,
they've told us I don't know if they told everyone else. Yeah,
I told us yeaeah, So I might be here. I
might have to run in and do a quick little
hell hi there and hello. Oh that's right, because that's
next Thursday.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, but if I'm not going to be too consumed
with that, I will definitely be here to give you
some more sex advice.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Sam the Sex Doctor, We appreciate you. I appreciate you. Brother.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
When we come back from to say goodbye to Chuck
Mangioni and also the Hulk Hulk Hogan. Kf I AM
six fortylive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And let me take you back to a time musically
in the late nineteen seventies in the early nineteen eighties.
When you say the term pop music, it's not one
type of music. Pop is short for popular, and that
changes with the years and decades. So if you say
pop music in the late nineteen seventies and earlies early eighties,
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you had music which was kind of R and B,
kind of jazz, kind of traditional pop which was prior
to that time, and a lot of it was instrumental.
You'd have songs like Breezing by George Benson. You'd have
Root one oh one or Rise by Herb Alpert, and
you had obviously Chuck Banjoni Feels So Good. Those were
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pop music songs back then. And you may think it
odd you have an instrumental, a jazz sounding instrumental, being
on the Billboard Hot one hundred chart or the Top
two hundred charter, or R and B and jazz chart
all at the same time, but back then it was
kind of usual. It was not uncommon at all. And
Chuck Manngioni had a huge hit with Feels So Good
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that a lot of people do know. But beyond that,
he was a transformative artist because, and this is really
going inside Nerd Baseball, he played the flugelhorn, which is
not a trumpet, which you hear is a flugelhorn, which
is it looks similar to a trumpet or a cornet,
but it's larger than a trumpet. It has a different,
(20:07):
more mellow sound, and it's a warmer sound, and it's
much more difficult to play than an actual trumpet, which
was my first instrument. And if you see it and
Daniel's showing pictures of it on our YouTube page. It's
a larger instrument and it requires much more skill and command.
But Chuck MANGIONI obviously will be remembered most for Feel
(20:31):
So Good, but he helped change music and the perception
of what was pop music during that time. He was
about as pop as they can be in the sense
of he was known anywhere and everywhere. He would he
would do the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, for example,
and I'll play that in just a second, but he
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was very mainstream and the times that I did meet
him when I was working at the Grammys is just
one of those I'm glad to say. He's one of
the people that I have nothing bad to say about
because he was always very humble. There was a spirit
of humility around him. Yes, he was the Chuck Manjony,
but he was not anyone who thought so much of
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himself that you couldn't have a conversation with him. And
I know we short of time, but I definitely want
to play this where he was and he had a
rebirth with King of the Hill where he played himself
out there Stu.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
I'm thinking about lifting that state there.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Roddy no, what that other one.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Don't go away, We'll be right back.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
More of make a stake.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You shop?
Speaker 8 (21:45):
How you doing out there?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm Chuck Manjony. You know, even celebrities have to hunt
for bargains. That's why I go to the Mega Lomark
for shopping.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Feels so good, and that's how some people came to
know Chuck Manjony. But I remember him from his peak
and maybe Mark Ronner might remember this clip when he
appeared one of the many times on The Tonight Show
with Johnny Carson.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
My next guest you all know is a great young
university composer and his new album is a live concert
for the seventy piece Orchestra at the Hollywood Bull, which
is just right here live at the Hollywood Bull. He's
going to be touring all over the country in July
and August, including a week in Los Angeles at the
Universal Amphitheater starting July seventeenth. Would you welcome please, Chuck MANGIONI.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Also passing away today PAULK. Hogan Terry Bolea at the
age of seventy one, and he's someone who, regardless of
his personal antics, that I didn't approve of it or
some people may not approve of his public political stances,
he was a transformative figure when it came to professional wrestling.
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I personally believe that he single handedly saved much of
the industry, including what was then the WWF. It was
his appearance in Rocky three which I think changed the
overall perception of what a wrestling star could and should be.
And if you're too young to remember Thunderlips, I feel
(23:28):
sorry for you.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Thunderlips is here in the first Baby, Oh my God,
the ultimate male versus the ultimate meat ball. He is
a monster.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
How much would you take even to get the.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Ring of it?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Would be.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
In the white corner, an incredible sciotic standing nearly seven
feet weighing three hundred and ninety pounds.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Look, geez, field it wrestling camp.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
You know, the biggest, the ultimate object of desire, the
mountain of molten lust, the one only fund.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
And then all of a sudden everyone knew who Hulk
Hogan was, and the rest, they say, is history. Rest
in peace, Hulk Hogan, Rest in peace. Chuck Mangione. I'll
have my final thought when we come back and Wilso
check in with George Norri.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
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Speaker 4 (24:41):
K IF I am six forty later with mo Kelly
coming up in just moments, we'll be Coast to Coast
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Speaker 2 (24:51):
I assume you're a friend, my friend, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I'm doing well, and thank you for recommending Von Brashley
come on the show because he was.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He was really good for you. Yes it did, Yes
it did. Did he interpret your dreams to a certain degree?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
He basically says, I have a lot of stuff in
my mind. I have some issues to work out and
I need to go figure out what's wrong with me. Well, really,
that's a long story.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You're one of the good guys. Well, anyways, we got
a great show tonight.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We're going to talk about who controls the world and
later on the mystery of time on Coast to Coast
sounds good.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I'll be joining you and before I get out of here,
just want to let you know tomorrow I'll be doing
some stuff outside of here, so we will have some
of the best moments of later with mo Kelly tomorrow.
Don't want that to catch you off guard, but do
plan to listen in tune in because there's a lot
of good stuff that Stephan has set aside for moments
(25:45):
just like these. That is tomorrow, and I want to
close out with this final thought, and it connects to
what I was discussing with Mark earlier in the show.
And I often talk about how, at least in my view, America,
which I love dearly, but I can also be honest
about it. It's presently an unserious country. Unserious because we
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are unable to pass meaningful legislation. Unseious because the biggest
news stories usually have to do with what new congressional
or DOJ investigation has been started, or documents have been released,
or something more than eight years old to accomplish a
whole lot of nothing. For example, Attorney General Pam Bondi
(26:31):
announced on Monday that the DOJ has released documents related
to the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a
private email server as if it were twenty fifteen, and
some openly mused, I'm being serious that maybe the investigation
should be reopened. That was Monday, And just in case
(26:53):
you weren't sure whether there was enough Hillary Clinton in
your news diet. This is what happened yesterday. The House
Oversight Panel voted to subpoena both Bill and Hillary Clinton
over possible links to Gelay Maxwell. Just in case you
didn't also know, the House Oversight Committee is to ensure
the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the federal government and
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all of its agencies and serve as a check to
the president and his actions. President as in sitting president,
not the one from twenty four years ago, as in
sitting president who also has direct ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Let me say it again. We are an unseerious nation.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
We want the truth about Jeffrey Epstein, right, right, but
we just don't want to address the elephant in the
middle of the room or the truth scaring us in
the face. You can subpoena both Bill and Donald, right,
But I wasn't kidding more Hillary, please because that'll get
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to the bottom of Jeffrey Epstein and improve the economy
or not.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But I wasn't kidding.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
On Wednesday, d and I Tulca Gabbert offered this headline
quote Russia sat on documents which detailed heavy tranquilizer use
by Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Close quote and.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I really don't understand this, because is the contention that
Russia was not actually trying to intervene in the twenty
sixteen election because Russia sat on information that was embarrassing
or damaging to Hillary Clinton? Or is it just another
way of mentioning the phrase Hillary Clinton in twenty twenty
five because politics is like music radio, the rule is
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to play the hits.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
We are an un serious nation.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And all of this is simultaneous to sending Congress home
early to avoid having a vote on releasing Jeffrey Epstein files,
because again, we are an un serious nation with no
serious designs on releasing anything meaningful regarding Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
We released the MLK files because everyone was asking for that.
Then again, I told you about those files. It's Jeffrey
Epstein files. They will never see the light of day.
Just semi chasing new and old conspiracies to nowhere. In particular, Oh,
in that new conspiracy that former President Obama somehow was
(29:16):
the architect of a coup to get people to stop
talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Know that that is another conspiracy bridge to nowhere.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Barack Obama is not getting subpoena he's not getting indicted,
he's not getting arrested or in prison. How do I know,
because Senator Ted Cruz said, so that's a hard.
Speaker 10 (29:33):
Heart look that there would be an argument about it.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'll tell you he's not going to be prosecuted for treason.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
But it's not going to happen.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
He's not going to be prosecuted in all likelihood for treason.
But where the criminal liability will start is with members
of the Obama administration who went under oath before Congress and.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Lied, flat out lied.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
We know Jim Clapper has lied repeatedly, and and and
that that will be the beginning of the investigation.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Okay, so we have another new investigation there. But that's
the party in power. That's what they're doing with their power.
But Democrats don't think you're gonna get off easy. You
didn't care about the content of the Epstein files ever,
not now, not then. Maybe a member here or there
in Congress, like Jamie Raskin, but by and large, y'all,
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Democrats had absolutely zero to say about Jeffrey Epstein. You
could have pursued Donald Trump in regard to Epstein during
the Biden administration, whether the case was sealed or not,
and I know it was sealed until twenty twenty four.
I mean, you pursued Trump in New York regarding the
Stormy Daniel's payments.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
That is the same state as Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You pursued Donald Trump with the classified documents in Florida
and DC. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein did live in Florida,
so there's some connection there. I mean, it wasn't like
it would have been beneath you, Democrats, because something tells
me you just are as afraid of the Epstein files
as the Republicans, as in more than just Bill Clinton.
(31:02):
It may not be just Bill Clinton. It could be
Bill Clinton and a few other Democrats. But clearly you're
afraid of something. But that goes back to what I said,
those files are never ever coming out, keilaid Maxwell speaking
of Jeffrey Epstein, is getting ready to trade a pardon
for keeping Trump out of her mouth.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yes, I said it, I meant it. So that's another
nail in that coffin.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
And some Democrats are calling for an investigation, like Mark
Runner into the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
A congressible investigation. You know how stupid. That is.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
That's almost as stupid and unseerious as calling for two
sports franchises to change their names back to racial slurs
and racially insulting iconography. So no, dims, you don't get
to claim the moral high ground. On Epstein, we had
the White House releasing an official statement today getting into
a Twitter fight with a freaking cartoon on comedy set
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that was just earlier today.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But altogether, all that happened just this week.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
We are an unserious country with an unserious, dysfunctional government.
This is what happens when you destroy the lines between
reality TV and governance. But we chose this, we elected this,
and we continue to ask for more and wonder why
nothing ever gets done for k IF, I am six forty,
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I'm mo, Kelly.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
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Later later Kay If I am six forty, it's Later
with Mo Kelly live everywhere on social media and the
iHeartRadio app. The sex Doctor is in put the kids
to bed. Let me put it that way, Sam, It's
great to see you. I saw this article today and
I immediately thought of you in the sense of I
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wanted to get your thoughts on this. And according to
the twenty twenty three Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Youth Risk Behavior Report, it found that adolescent sexual behavior
has declined since twenty thirteen. If you were to just
asked me, I'd assume that it would have increase because
of all the methods and availabilities and options and people
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had and social media apps and the dating apps, that
they'd be more inclined to engage in sexual behavior. But
according to this one in four gen Z adults has
not had partnered sex.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
For example, that was a little bit surprising to see,
just like that specific statistic, twenty five percent of gen
Zers have not had partnered sex. Now we it kind
of goes along the same lines. And I'll get to
a little bit the male loneliness epidemic. I've been hearing
a lot about this on social media and stuff, and
(02:02):
we'll get to that. But the report came out of
the Kinsey Institute was a survey from twenty twenty two.
One out of four Gen ze ers have not had
partnered sex. Sixteen percent of them said that they were
more hesitant after Roe v. Wade was overturned. I thought
that was really yeah, I thought that was, you know,
an interesting point to bring up. It was also kind
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of like a negligible statistic to bring up just in general.
Usually people after they're you know, done having sex and
they have a kid, you know, things tend to move
on after that. But more and more people, from what
I'm seeing, I didn't see this in the article, but
I've seen this in other stories and other articles that've
been posted on the subject. More and more young people
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are getting their emotional needs met through online social relationships,
where a lot in the past, a lot of youth
were much more curious about sex and sexuality, and they
would experiment with each other throughout high school or throughout college. Now,
with the ubiquitous access to porn that a lot of
people have, especially younger people, it may have taken the
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mystique in the sense of taboo out of sex, and
so a lot of their questions are immediately being answered
by porn, which is why it's so important to have
adequate sexual education when it comes to contextualizing porn.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
See, I'm thinking that that would not only desensitize us
or the generation, but it would make it what.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I remember growing up. Let me put it this way.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You know, sex was like, oh my gosh, it was
this magical land that if you're lucky enough one day
you'll get to visit. Now, it's like, it's probably pretty
pass a because it's ever present. And so we hear
the stories of children, be honest, engaging in sexual acts
at a much younger age.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But this study flies in the face of that.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah, well, because a lot of times when, especially when
younger people are engaging in sexual activities, it's them exploring
themselves and exploring you know, and themselves in the context
of other people sexually and now you and before, like,
especially when we were growing up, like the most that
we probably ever had access to was you know, scrambled
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porn on Playboy and like and magazines, our uncle's subscription
that he hit in the bathroom, that that kind of thing,
where nowadays it's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
So a lot of these questions and a lot of the.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Mystique behind it is just gone, and it makes it
so kids are less likely to have those questions and
try to experiment to find the answers to them. They
see it and they're immediately like, Okay, well that makes sense,
and they're immediately turned off of it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
We're talking about gen Z. But I'm jen X.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I grew up in the age of the I'll say,
the discovery of HIV and AIDS and how that's severely
muted our collective sexual behavior didn't stop it, you know,
because we were still having sex, but we were still
bombarded with like, if you have sex, you're gonna die
type messaging.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, well we had I mean, I remember, I mean
I'm gen X as well, and I remember the lessons
that we learned in the late eighties and early nineties
about protecting yourself. We had, I mean nineteen ninety one,
at the end of it, we had Magic Johnson in
November of ninety one, and then within a month, Freddie
Mercury passed away from Hi.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Where was Rock Hudson in that he.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Was in the eighties eighties, Yeah, mid to late eighties,
that's when Rock Hudson passed away. But really the amount
of exposure towards the dangers of sex really sprouted up
around then, and that's when you in that eras when
you started to see tlc ain't too proud of bed
making condoms a fashion statement where they were very much
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making it so that people were being more mindful and
careful about what they were doing sexually. Unfortunately, and well
you can say for fortunately fortunately, but also unfortunately. The
fortunate thing is medical advancements, especially I mean after Magic
Johnson's announcement, the amount of funding towards HIV age research skyrocketed,
and after that you start to see people, like, you know,
(06:05):
different treatments coming out that were more effective and people
it wasn't the death sentence that it was back in
the nineties. People are living longer, healthier lives. Magic Johnson
is still alive and kicking. Yeah, And that's that's the thing,
is that a lot of the lessons that we Gen
xers learned about sex and sexuality got lost on a
lot of generations, So you're probably going to see more
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cases of you know, people not necessarily knowing what they're
doing sexually as far as disease goes, but the mystique
and the questions of actually, you know, sex and sex
what it actually is. They're getting those questions answered by
the Internet.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Now, okay, if I understand you correctly, whereas our generation
we dealt with the fear and the consequences of gen
Z is not dissuaded by fear.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
They're just disinterested.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Yeah, their emotional and physical needs are being met in
other ways. They they have online, real relationships with people.
We were talking about AI. That's a burgeoning field right
now where there's a lot more people getting into relationships
with AI. But there it's it's becoming something where sex
is the game. Like the reward the risk reward of
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it is slowly no longer balancing. More people or less
people are looking to have families and have kids because
their emotional needs are being met in other ways. And
we were talking about how like you know, the there's
like a population slump here and also especially in Japan,
this thing isn't what we're talking about isn't something that's
just impacting us here in the United States.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's almost a worldwide phenomenon.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Right when we say gen Z, we're talking about people
who were born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Those individuals obviously around twenty eight, but they are still
within the sweet spot of the child bearing years. In
other words, they have the lion's share responsibility of having
and starting the families now at this point, and they see, well,
we know that gen Z, they're less likely to drive,
they're less likely to have sex, they're less likely to
start a family.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What drives them? Then?
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Really all of their needs are met at home. Guys
are sitting at home playing video games, having no They're
having online conversations with people in their virtual worlds. They
are getting their needs met through. If they're into porn,
they can have their sexual needs met online. If they
want to have more of like that verbal interaction with people,
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they can do it much more safely online by having
like a sexting relationship with somebody versus having an actual
in person relationship. You're starting to see that in Japan,
where they're actually looking for people to move out there
to have babies out there to help stop the decline
in the population out there.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
But did you look at a place like China was
like no one child at maximum.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, and that's they've done a good job of controlling
population because they were really pushing the population issue. And
now it's become something where like they China's more or
less known for being so restrictive about having sex and
having kids that that's they mastered the art of birth
control over there.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They've really focused on it.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Where here, I'm we're starting to see, you know, politicians
and billionaires going out of their ways telling people we
need to start having way more kids because they're afraid
of like the workforce here diminishing, and we're trying to
get a lot of people out of this country, I guess,
and we're going to fill those roles with more and
more people.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Let me just respond to that before we go to
break it's it seems to me as counterintuitive because we
already have an exploding homeless population. We already have more
people who are unemployed than jobs. Big picture for the
future will exist, So what would be the argument to
have more kids if we can't accommodate more people.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
It's because more kids means more workers, more people can
be out there working in those jobs that are going
to be coming up. The more we're absolutely and there's
going to be people getting paid less and less money
to do jobs. I mean, really, we used to get
away with having one job. Now all of us have
to have several jobs in order to get by. And
(10:14):
it's you're gonna need the workforce if you're going to
be eliminating a huge chunk of the population here that's
working actively. And so a lot of the people are
having less and less sex for a bunch of reasons.
Their emotional and sexual needs are being met in other ways.
But now there's also political pressure on people to have kids,
and that changes the discussion because we were talking about
(10:37):
a little bit last week about some of the laws,
the legislation that's going through aimed at restricting pleasure and
sex and sexual expression. So these are all things that
are now on the table and we'll go into that
in the next I've we've got fourteen states currently that
have anti porn, anti sex toy legislation on the books.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Doctor Samza, the sex doc year is in and he's
holding court. He has a lot of great information for
all of us. It's Later with mo Kelly KFIM six
forty live everywhere on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
KFI AM six forty. The Sex Doctor is in.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Sam Zea continues to join us here in Studio Sam.
Last segment, we were talking about how gen Z has
pulled away from the whole idea of sex as far
as participation. It doesn't have the same level of importance
or influence over their lives in the way that the
previous generations had a control over us, you could say,
(11:39):
but also that's how people are changing, but also laws
are changing around the country.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Well, the author of the article that you had sent
me was talking about how she was also very much
like consumed with her own virginity growing up, and it
seems like people nowadays, younger people X or gen z
ers are much more are likely to not take that
stuff as seriously. So it's really the game as far
as sex goes, has changed. The information around it. The
(12:08):
content around it is so easily accessible and people are
actually getting pretty decent information where before a lot of
times people who they you know, when they're looking for
any information regarding sex or sexuality, they'd usually be asking
somebody who has less information in them as far as
that goes, So now the people are getting reasonably good
(12:30):
sexual information online, it's just making sure you have it
in the right context. But as far as laws go,
and what the problem is is that for all the
good education you can get online about sex and sexuality,
a lot of that stuff is going to be thrown
out with the bathwater with a lot of these uh
legislation going through aim to restrict access to online porn
(12:52):
and also not just that, restrict access to people getting
adult novelty toys, sex toys like we were talking about
last week.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But we know, just from history, our personal lives, and
you know, life in general, restricting access to pornographic materials
has never decreased either the demand or the access.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Really yeah, But the only thing that it does is
it makes it so people now have to go to
different sources to ask those questions, and the people giving
those answers are going to be ones where, let's say,
the government is going to be much more approving of
what those answers are going to be. So now you're
going to have people not looking online or not having
(13:37):
as much access, So especially in those formative years when
you may have a lot of questions but you're way
too embarrassed to ask the people around you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So you go online. Now you're not gonna be able
to get any answer.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
So it was different because when I was growing up,
we didn't have any online. Our knowledge base was the
extension of the friends we hung out with. Yeah, you know,
so you asked him, hey, what about this or what
about that? And hopefully you had a decent source to
get information from. Usually you don't because their knuckleheads, just
like you are. Yeah, if you have, you're lucky.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
I had an older sibling and so I got to
I got to raid his adult magazine stash because he
was a lot. It was like seven years older than yeaing. Yeah,
so I got to learn a little bit from them. Also,
I was lucky enough to have a family that was
really on top of that stuff. My parents, my mom
and dad, were totally on top of me getting as
much education about sex and sexuality as possible. Most people
(14:30):
do not have parents as accepting of sex and sexuality.
So my mom is a psychoanalyst and her bathroom. Her
toilet seat reading was a book called The New Sex Therapy,
and it had actual pencil sketch drawings in it. So
I learned all about that stuff because I, you know,
I did learn to read on the toylet.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They didn't weird you out, That didn't un nerve you.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
It did, But I also was like, this is interesting.
I was at the same time fascinated by it. So
I just I guess that's where a lot of my
my inclination towards this field kind of got started.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
But there's a lot of legislation now going around.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Fourteen states, most recently South Dakota jumped in with laws
that aim to restrict access to online porn by making
people provide either picture of their license, some form of ID,
some way to verify that they are over eighteen. The
Supreme Court voted six to three saying that this is constitutional.
Went right down party lines. It was the the case
(15:30):
was Free Speech Coalition versus Paxton and Texas. More, since
Texas is kind of a bellweather state when it comes
to this kind of legislation, you're slowly going to start
seeing more and more states adopting legislation similar to this.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Just because Texas took that step forward. Absolutely and.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Full disclosure. I'm a member of the Free Speech Coalition.
It's the political action committee that tries to do the
best they can to advocate for the rights of adult
film performers. Uh but yeah, for all of that, and
you know, there's going to be a bunch of other
conservative states following suit.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And this brings up a question for me.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
For all the people demanding smaller government, this seems like
the opposite, where we're finding ways to have the government
start to get directly into our bedroom. I mean we
I brought a bag full of sex toys.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I hate to interrupt you, but this is maybe
you're not old enough to know the ways of the world,
but we were never a country about keeping the government
out of our bedroom. Historically, the government has always been
in our bedroom.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
But I was hoping that, you know, times of change
and people put more of their money where their mouth
is when that with that kind of thing. But I
mean I came in with a bag of sex toys
and lubes and stuff like that last week that if
I had been traveling through and got pulled over in Texas,
I would have been put in prison for distributing like that,
like like the same way that you would get by drugs.
(17:00):
They have the same kind the laws for sex toys,
and for me, I have a hard time with trying
to legislate people's access to pleasure when it's not harming
anybody else.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That has always been the issue with let's say, prostitution.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
The government has always been in people's business when it
comes to bedroom activity. Always the laws as far as
sodomy going back into the early twentieth century, always been
an issue. And we can say before Loving versus Virginia
as far as interracial marriage has always been in people's
(17:35):
lives in bedroom. The only difference now is we just
changed the subject matter or the heading. But it's always
been the same, Doctor Sam, I have to run, but
it's always great having you in studio.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You're going to come back and see us next week.
Hopefully I'll be around.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm actually going to be maybe running the Chargers game
because that's the first football game of the season and
I'm still an employee of iHeart.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They have they officially made that announcement yet, I'm not
sure I know that Thursday is the first game. Yeah,
they've told us I don't know if they told everyone else. Yeah,
I told us yeaeah, So I might be here. I
might have to run in and do a quick little
hell hi there and hello. Oh that's right, because that's
next Thursday.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, but if I'm not going to be too consumed
with that, I will definitely be here to give you
some more sex advice.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Sam the Sex Doctor, We appreciate you. I appreciate you. Brother.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
When we come back from to say goodbye to Chuck
Mangioni and also the Hulk Hulk Hogan. Kf I AM
six fortylive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And let me take you back to a time musically
in the late nineteen seventies in the early nineteen eighties.
When you say the term pop music, it's not one
type of music. Pop is short for popular, and that
changes with the years and decades. So if you say
pop music in the late nineteen seventies and earlies early eighties,
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you had music which was kind of R and B,
kind of jazz, kind of traditional pop which was prior
to that time, and a lot of it was instrumental.
You'd have songs like Breezing by George Benson. You'd have
Root one oh one or Rise by Herb Alpert, and
you had obviously Chuck Banjoni Feels So Good. Those were
(19:22):
pop music songs back then. And you may think it
odd you have an instrumental, a jazz sounding instrumental, being
on the Billboard Hot one hundred chart or the Top
two hundred charter, or R and B and jazz chart
all at the same time, but back then it was
kind of usual. It was not uncommon at all. And
Chuck Manngioni had a huge hit with Feels So Good
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that a lot of people do know. But beyond that,
he was a transformative artist because, and this is really
going inside Nerd Baseball, he played the flugelhorn, which is
not a trumpet, which you hear is a flugelhorn, which
is it looks similar to a trumpet or a cornet,
but it's larger than a trumpet. It has a different,
(20:07):
more mellow sound, and it's a warmer sound, and it's
much more difficult to play than an actual trumpet, which
was my first instrument. And if you see it and
Daniel's showing pictures of it on our YouTube page. It's
a larger instrument and it requires much more skill and command.
But Chuck MANGIONI obviously will be remembered most for Feel
(20:31):
So Good, but he helped change music and the perception
of what was pop music during that time. He was
about as pop as they can be in the sense
of he was known anywhere and everywhere. He would he
would do the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, for example,
and I'll play that in just a second, but he
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was very mainstream and the times that I did meet
him when I was working at the Grammys is just
one of those I'm glad to say. He's one of
the people that I have nothing bad to say about
because he was always very humble. There was a spirit
of humility around him. Yes, he was the Chuck Manjony,
but he was not anyone who thought so much of
(21:14):
himself that you couldn't have a conversation with him. And
I know we short of time, but I definitely want
to play this where he was and he had a
rebirth with King of the Hill where he played himself
out there Stu.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
I'm thinking about lifting that state there.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Roddy no, what that other one.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Don't go away, We'll be right back.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
More of make a stake.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
You shop?
Speaker 8 (21:45):
How you doing out there?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I'm Chuck Manjony. You know, even celebrities have to hunt
for bargains. That's why I go to the Mega Lomark
for shopping.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Feels so good, and that's how some people came to
know Chuck Manjony. But I remember him from his peak
and maybe Mark Ronner might remember this clip when he
appeared one of the many times on The Tonight Show
with Johnny Carson.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
My next guest you all know is a great young
university composer and his new album is a live concert
for the seventy piece Orchestra at the Hollywood Bull, which
is just right here live at the Hollywood Bull. He's
going to be touring all over the country in July
and August, including a week in Los Angeles at the
Universal Amphitheater starting July seventeenth. Would you welcome please, Chuck MANGIONI.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Also passing away today PAULK. Hogan Terry Bolea at the
age of seventy one, and he's someone who, regardless of
his personal antics, that I didn't approve of it or
some people may not approve of his public political stances,
he was a transformative figure when it came to professional wrestling.
(23:06):
I personally believe that he single handedly saved much of
the industry, including what was then the WWF. It was
his appearance in Rocky three which I think changed the
overall perception of what a wrestling star could and should be.
And if you're too young to remember Thunderlips, I feel
(23:28):
sorry for you.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Thunderlips is here in the first Baby, Oh my God,
the ultimate male versus the ultimate meat ball. He is
a monster.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
How much would you take even to get the.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Ring of it?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Would be.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
In the white corner, an incredible sciotic standing nearly seven
feet weighing three hundred and ninety pounds.
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Look, geez, field it wrestling camp.
Speaker 9 (24:04):
You know, the biggest, the ultimate object of desire, the
mountain of molten lust, the one only fund.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
And then all of a sudden everyone knew who Hulk
Hogan was, and the rest, they say, is history. Rest
in peace, Hulk Hogan, Rest in peace. Chuck Mangione. I'll
have my final thought when we come back and Wilso
check in with George Norri.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
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Speaker 4 (24:41):
K IF I am six forty later with mo Kelly
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Speaker 2 (24:51):
I assume you're a friend, my friend, how are you?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
I'm doing well, and thank you for recommending Von Brashley
come on the show because he was.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He was really good for you. Yes it did, Yes
it did. Did he interpret your dreams to a certain degree?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
He basically says, I have a lot of stuff in
my mind. I have some issues to work out and
I need to go figure out what's wrong with me. Well, really,
that's a long story.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You're one of the good guys. Well, anyways, we got
a great show tonight.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
We're going to talk about who controls the world and
later on the mystery of time on Coast to Coast
sounds good.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I'll be joining you and before I get out of here,
just want to let you know tomorrow I'll be doing
some stuff outside of here, so we will have some
of the best moments of later with mo Kelly tomorrow.
Don't want that to catch you off guard, but do
plan to listen in tune in because there's a lot
of good stuff that Stephan has set aside for moments
(25:45):
just like these. That is tomorrow, and I want to
close out with this final thought, and it connects to
what I was discussing with Mark earlier in the show.
And I often talk about how, at least in my view, America,
which I love dearly, but I can also be honest
about it. It's presently an unserious country. Unserious because we
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are unable to pass meaningful legislation. Unseious because the biggest
news stories usually have to do with what new congressional
or DOJ investigation has been started, or documents have been released,
or something more than eight years old to accomplish a
whole lot of nothing. For example, Attorney General Pam Bondi
(26:31):
announced on Monday that the DOJ has released documents related
to the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a
private email server as if it were twenty fifteen, and
some openly mused, I'm being serious that maybe the investigation
should be reopened. That was Monday, And just in case
(26:53):
you weren't sure whether there was enough Hillary Clinton in
your news diet. This is what happened yesterday. The House
Oversight Panel voted to subpoena both Bill and Hillary Clinton
over possible links to Gelay Maxwell. Just in case you
didn't also know, the House Oversight Committee is to ensure
the efficiency, effectiveness, and accountability of the federal government and
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all of its agencies and serve as a check to
the president and his actions. President as in sitting president,
not the one from twenty four years ago, as in
sitting president who also has direct ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Let me say it again. We are an unseerious nation.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
We want the truth about Jeffrey Epstein, right, right, but
we just don't want to address the elephant in the
middle of the room or the truth scaring us in
the face. You can subpoena both Bill and Donald, right,
But I wasn't kidding more Hillary, please because that'll get
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to the bottom of Jeffrey Epstein and improve the economy
or not.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But I wasn't kidding.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
On Wednesday, d and I Tulca Gabbert offered this headline
quote Russia sat on documents which detailed heavy tranquilizer use
by Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Close quote and.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
I really don't understand this, because is the contention that
Russia was not actually trying to intervene in the twenty
sixteen election because Russia sat on information that was embarrassing
or damaging to Hillary Clinton? Or is it just another
way of mentioning the phrase Hillary Clinton in twenty twenty
five because politics is like music radio, the rule is
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to play the hits.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
We are an un serious nation.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And all of this is simultaneous to sending Congress home
early to avoid having a vote on releasing Jeffrey Epstein files,
because again, we are an un serious nation with no
serious designs on releasing anything meaningful regarding Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
We released the MLK files because everyone was asking for that.
Then again, I told you about those files. It's Jeffrey
Epstein files. They will never see the light of day.
Just semi chasing new and old conspiracies to nowhere. In particular, Oh,
in that new conspiracy that former President Obama somehow was
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the architect of a coup to get people to stop
talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Know that that is another conspiracy bridge to nowhere.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Barack Obama is not getting subpoena he's not getting indicted,
he's not getting arrested or in prison. How do I know,
because Senator Ted Cruz said, so that's a hard.
Speaker 10 (29:33):
Heart look that there would be an argument about it.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'll tell you he's not going to be prosecuted for treason.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
But it's not going to happen.
Speaker 10 (29:40):
He's not going to be prosecuted in all likelihood for treason.
But where the criminal liability will start is with members
of the Obama administration who went under oath before Congress and.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Lied, flat out lied.
Speaker 10 (29:51):
We know Jim Clapper has lied repeatedly, and and and
that that will be the beginning of the investigation.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Okay, so we have another new investigation there. But that's
the party in power. That's what they're doing with their power.
But Democrats don't think you're gonna get off easy. You
didn't care about the content of the Epstein files ever,
not now, not then. Maybe a member here or there
in Congress, like Jamie Raskin, but by and large, y'all,
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Democrats had absolutely zero to say about Jeffrey Epstein. You
could have pursued Donald Trump in regard to Epstein during
the Biden administration, whether the case was sealed or not,
and I know it was sealed until twenty twenty four.
I mean, you pursued Trump in New York regarding the
Stormy Daniel's payments.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
That is the same state as Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You pursued Donald Trump with the classified documents in Florida
and DC. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein did live in Florida,
so there's some connection there. I mean, it wasn't like
it would have been beneath you, Democrats, because something tells
me you just are as afraid of the Epstein files
as the Republicans, as in more than just Bill Clinton.
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It may not be just Bill Clinton. It could be
Bill Clinton and a few other Democrats. But clearly you're
afraid of something. But that goes back to what I said,
those files are never ever coming out, keilaid Maxwell speaking
of Jeffrey Epstein, is getting ready to trade a pardon
for keeping Trump out of her mouth.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yes, I said it, I meant it. So that's another
nail in that coffin.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
And some Democrats are calling for an investigation, like Mark
Runner into the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
A congressible investigation. You know how stupid. That is.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
That's almost as stupid and unseerious as calling for two
sports franchises to change their names back to racial slurs
and racially insulting iconography. So no, dims, you don't get
to claim the moral high ground. On Epstein, we had
the White House releasing an official statement today getting into
a Twitter fight with a freaking cartoon on comedy set
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that was just earlier today.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But altogether, all that happened just this week.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
We are an unserious country with an unserious, dysfunctional government.
This is what happens when you destroy the lines between
reality TV and governance. But we chose this, we elected this,
and we continue to ask for more and wonder why
nothing ever gets done for k IF, I am six forty,
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I'm mo, Kelly.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
KSPY, and kost HD two Los Angeles, Orange County.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
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