July 10, 2024 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the Skydance Media/Paramount Global merger and what it means for you…PLUS – A look at Jemaine Clement and Taika Waititi’s new Apple TV+ series ‘Time Bandits’ AND the violent new sport of “Power Slapping” that’s sparking controversy in Las Vegas - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
We frequently discuss the evolution of videomedia, how we consume our television,
and the whole idea of television.The term is antiquated. People may not
consume their visual media on a televisionanymore. It might be your desktop computer,
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it might be a laptop, itmight be your phone, it could
be a combination of all those things. But the visual medium how we consume
entertainment is ever evolving. It wasjust last year, and I know you
remember this twelve we were talking aboutthe merger of all these different companies,
notably Paramount Plus and Showtime, AndI said back then that one made sense
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because Paramount is more television than anything, and they needed movies with Showtime.
And it also highlighted how the streamingindustry was consolidating. You're seeing more and
more of these bundles and more andmore of these mergers pulling all their assets
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together. But remember I said ParamountPlus and Showtime. So when I read
today about this next deal with Paramountand how they are mixing their assets and
combining with Skydance Media, a movieproduction company, I started scratching my head.
Paramount Global board members on Sunday approveda bid by Skydance Media and its
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backers to buy the Redstones family theSummer Redstone. They're Massachusetts holding firm National
Amusements, Incorporated, and Redstone's votingstock in Paramount would be transferred to Skydance.
Giving David Ellison, you may knowthat he is a tech maven,
and he's also son of billionaire OracleCorporation co founder Larry Ellison. Control of
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Paramount, which means Paramount Pictures,broadcast network CBS, cable channels, MTV,
Comedy Central, and Nickelodeon. Thetwo things that I noticed on the
surface. When you have a techperson involved, you're talking about creating a
delivery system, but you need tohave content and IP for that delivery system.
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So I get that much, butI don't know why there would be
any interest in purchasing the paramount portionof Paramount plus in showtime. Here's why.
In this deal, it's including broadcastnetwork CBS broadcasts. That's we've talked
about this since any number of times. That's the past. It's not moving
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in the right direction. Cable that'sthe past. And do you say cable
channels MTV, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon. They still exist. Yeah, yes
they exist. Are you going tobreak it up and sell it for parts?
I don't know how you're going to. I don't know how that's attractive
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because you can always create a streamingchannel anywhere. I just don't know how
MTV, Comedy Central and Nickelodeon asbrand entities are of great value in twenty
twenty four. Comedy Central probably hasthe most cachet. Oh maybe Nickelodeon.
I mean they still have a lotof programming on Nickelodeon. I guess,
yeah, I know what I'm saying. Yeah, it just seems it's almost
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like Paramount doesn't know what it wantsto do. And I know there might
be a difference between Paramount Plus andParamount Pictures and Paramount Global, but it's
all in the same pond. Istaidly though, because Nickelodeon they had big
success with the last teenage meaning NinjaTurtles movie they put out, and they
also have that brand, and thereare a lot of animated series that they've
got so that stream on the Nickelodeonapp. Leave them. I believe they
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do have an app. MTV Ididn't know. They still exist. It
exists, there's just no music.The whole idea of music, remember how
I started this television, The wholeconcept, the idea of music television doesn't
exist anymore, the Comedy Central.But I mean, but Paramount. That
means they get the library right,all the films. Yeah, all that
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that goes back to the IP andsky Dance because sky Dances, like what,
that's top Gun, that's all ofTom Cruise, the things. That's
mission impossible, right, it couldbe good, It could be it could
be good. I'm just saying itseems like there's a lot of dead weight.
The timing is weird because you musthave read the last few weeks that
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Comedy Central and MTV both deleted wholesaledecades worth of their content. Yeah they
did, Yeah, they sure did. Yeah they did. And bets well
that didn't count. I got athink against BT, you know, and
most people think, isn't that blackentertainment television? That's it's not. It's
really not. And that's a wholenother discussion. But the whole idea of
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Paramount giving over control to sky Dance, and I know there's probably another component
to this deal that we haven't beenmade aware of yet. We don't know
what they're trying to do big picture, it just doesn't seem like you would
be as valuable as the eight pointfour billion dollar transaction would suggest. I
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think Paramount also has Beavis and buttHeads, so that explains everything. Oh,
jewel in the crown right there.I mean, but it's like this
guy, David Ellison, he's hein a in an interview saying that he
wants to turn into a technology andmedia company, not media technology, so
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he wants to focus on technology byway of media, and and this makes
sense. Well that's to say,if they have another type of delivery system
in mind where you could go punitendedstreamline mainline their content to people, then
okay, maybe that's a part ofthe bigger picture that we're just not seeing
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but looking at it from an IPperspective. And of course they're much smarter
than me. This is what theydo all the time. I'm just not
seeing what they're seeing. Well,they had to do something with Paramount because
it was losing money. Nobody exceptme this subscribe Okay, right, that's
my point. It just seems likeit's a loser of a deal. On
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its face. Nah, but wecan't forget about again. If you're trying
to say, if you're trying tostart up a new platform, all right,
and sky Nance wants this, thisguy larire Elson, he wants to
do something new. Shake up themonopolies of Disney Plus and all that you
got, not just the films,but all of the TV series that Paramount
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owns, not counting just the CBSseries, but all everything under the Paramount
umbrella. You've got decades worth ofcontent that you can put into a streaming
service Star Trek, big deal.No, No, I get that,
But let's make an apt comparison.So does Disney with the whole Disney Plus
and ABC. They had all theseries, all that legacy content, and
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it still was not enough for DisneyPlus to turn a profit. I'm trying
to compare apples to apples. Yeah. I think they're just trying to come
up with some combo that people willpay for that includes Paramount Plus, because
clearly it wasn't cutting it on itsown. No, no, and very
few are. I think it's maybeHulu and Netflix the only ones that are
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making any money. Not Disney Plus, isn't They're not losing there not bleeding
as much. They're not bleeding asmuch. But you know, for all
the content that Disney Plus has,it has not turned out to be the
money maker that it was originally envisionedto be, hence the raising of the
prices like every single year and ahuge price jump this past year. But
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they still have me. There's enoughfor me across Marvel, across Star Wars,
across there are other oh I can'tremember the different production companies they have.
Excuse me, yes, said Pixar. There's enough for me to stay
in. There's nothing on Paramount Plusbecause that one show about the video game
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guy. There are a couple acouple of shows that I watched on Paramount
Plus. I think Tulsa king wasone. I never even got to that,
I think. So. So,I know, Paramount's got all the
different Star treks, They've got theOriginal Mission Impossible, and the movies Beavis
and butthead Like and they've got they'vegot, uh, what's the Jeremy Renners
show as well, Mayor of Kingstown. Yeah, I think that's what I
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was watching that I was watching.That not enough to keep the app up.
I'm sorry. There's just there's nothingon that I I wanted it to
win because I like the Lower Deckseries. I thought that was for me.
Mark, I'm sorry, one ofthe best of the track show.
You're on your own. Yeah.I need more than just a show here
or there. And I don't feellike watching Beavis and butthead anymore. Well,
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that sucks. Look that's right upyour alley to go ahead and pay
for it. I'm just not goingto this. Later with Mo Kelly KIM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadioApple. We have an Apple TV time
Bandits update. Yes, they're remakingthe nineteen eighty one movie. Should they?
Why would they? Will it work? We have all the answers on
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the other side. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty time Bandits. TimeBandits, the one you are supposed to
be promoting. Remember you flopped tosee Closing Conos for the special effect.
You went to Superman to see aman fly. You went to Star Wars
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for the droids. You went nowwatch it that time to page one see
Untars. Time Bandits can offer youmuch much more. It's not the special
effects of flying men or droids,which makes Time Bandits a unique cinematique cinematic
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you know, pertaining to the cinemacinematic experience. It's the makeup. Yes,
fach, You've never seen anything likeit. Men made up to look
like monsters, Monsters made up tolook like men look alike, men made
up to look different, different,men made up to look alike. No
expense has been paired, spared onthe pandstick haandstick. No expense has been
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spared flying in the world's greatest makeupman. Just a minute, Just a
minute? What about the plot?The word, the plot, what the
film is about? Well, Ihaven't seen it, have haven't sequel.
You're sitting there telling millions of peopleto go and see a film you haven't
even seen. You I can't seeit film I do no ca okay?
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If I am six forty is laterwith Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app And that is the original trailerfrom the movie Time Bandit's nineteen eighty one.
It starred Sean Connery, John Cleasee, Shelley Duvall, Kenny Baker,
who was R. Two D twoin the original Star Wars, Warwick Davis
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also from the Star Wars universe.Willow a lot of legends in their own
right. And now that movie,if you remember it, I know Tawala
remembers it well. I somewhat rememberit. I didn't haven't seen it in
many, many years. It wasfull of, as you listen to the
trailer, practical effects and makeup,not cgi and special effects that were accustomed
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to today. It's now being remadefor Apple TV and it has a July
twenty fourth release date. Tula,we talk about don't remake classics or cult
classics. Where do you come outon this one? This one actually works,
and it actually works because of Ibelieve the leading vision behind it,
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Tayikawa tit this is a series that'smade for him. I believe Time Bannis
is just a film that was right. And this was originally going to be
a film. It was going tobe a film, but then when looking
at it and looking at how theywanted to make it reach today's audience,
they said, no, we're gonnahave to stretch this out and make it
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a series because as a film itself, it's gonna miss its mark and not
enough kids are gonna be able toget into it quick enough to understand it.
Why can't you be a normal passionwith normal friends. Well, you've
stuck in the past, Kevin.You got to stop it with all these
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vikings in the ancient gates as well. Mom, my wardrobe is moving.
Whoa hold on? How is hehere? Just go along your room.
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It's a tiny dress. It allowsus to travel throughout the universe. Tell
me who you are or I willhew you. I am Penelope, and
I am in effect the leader.Fundamentally though, we are all equal.
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Who are you, guys? We'rethe Time Bandits, a crack team of
expert fiees. Nothing is too bigfor us to steal. Okay, now
that we're close, maybe it istoo big to steal, so you're still
in on it. I actually am. I think that the casting is good,
and I think that a lot ofthe site humor and the things that
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they're doing to me, it ringstrue to the original. This is one
of those ones I'm like, thisactually works. The cast looks really really
good, looks funny. They gotto spend a lot of money because Time
Bandits, I do remember, wasbig big. It was really big size
scope sets, the practical effects.I would want the same for this series.
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Sometimes I'm always leary of turning moviesin the television series because sometimes they
lag, they drag. That's myconcern. But I'm with you on this.
It's been forty three years. Ithink there's enough time in between.
And most of the cast that Itold you about, from Sean Connery,
most, not all, but mostthey've passed. Yeah, obviously John Cleeese
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has not, Warwick Davis has it, but most of them, And this
is a series that could lead tocould lead to some guest appearances because it
looks like that kind of show.It is a show where if every episode
is an adventure, it doesn't haveto have filler episodes. Well like a
lot of these reboot series that wesee, it could be one mad cap
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adventure after another into a different world. And that's what makes this work.
I need to see John Cleese.I would really like to see John Cleaton.
It's me, I know, andI for me that would mean okay,
it's received a stamp of approval fromJohn Cleees. Always been a John
Cleees fan. Warwick Davis, hecould make it. I don't want to
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see him, No, no,don't don't hold Willow against Warwick I'm holding
the Willow series against him. No, no, well neither. It's not
his fault. He had to doit. That just act. Mark,
you're a Clease fan. I thinkall the people in Miny Python are like
the Beatles of comedy. But ifyou really want this stamp of approval,
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I want to hear what Terry Gilliamhas to say about this. He's the
one who he's a Python member whodirected the original Time Bandits, and he's
reached the point in his life wherehe doesn't care what he says about anything.
I want to hear what he hasto say. So far, he's
absolutely one erred percent on board,absolutely one on board. So they must
have cut him a check. Ah, Mark, Well, you're right,
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that's science fiction. How dare I? Well, no, they could have
cut him a check. But itdoesn't mean that he's going to be effusive
in blessing it. Mark Hamill hasreceived many a check from Star Wars and
he still was talking. He's stillabout those last films and totally justified too.
Right. Yes, when we comeback, we're going to tell you
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about the new I can't call ita mixed martial arts sport, but the
next sport which is being promoted bythe UFC the Ultimate Fighting Championship Power Slapping.
If you haven't seen the videos,it is wild, it is crazy,
and it's really dangerous. But youknow what, it's pretty compelling.
We'll tell you about it next.You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
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demand from KFI AM six forty Powerslapis a new league which was created by
Dana White of the UFC, andit pits two people against each other and
they have a slapfest, trading blowsuntil one person is knocked out or at
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least off their feet. It's veryviolent. It's becoming very very popular.
In fact, according to Dana White, power Slap has gained over a million
and a half Instagram followers just thisyear, and that happens to be more
than NASCAR, Major League Soccer,the NFL, Major League Baseball, and
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the NHL. Right hand on three, that's the only one. You didn't
make it good. This one's gonnabe good, my friends. Buckle up.
Let's go to Crazy Hawaiian on righthere. Guys, that's a great
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ninety nine. He's splits in people'sfaces off because we're like that. I've
never seen him delivered that kind ofPowell before Chris Thomas was almost Darne.
He's not there? Will he stillbe there in just a second? Oh
dad up? Swa ain't going tothe score cards. We have a new
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will Toy champion less ye And thatfinal blow was thrown by a Manual Moodies.
He made him count. Austin Turpin, he's a killer. Will he
be clean turf he slays? Don'tdie Viana? Oh my god, he
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ain't getting up from the knock outbaby earning Kathy this by special too?
Oh my god, Yeah, slapthe ball time. Garry van Hearton,
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he is gonna be a problem.Andry van Herton is exactly the kind of
super heavyweight we're looking for in thissport. And it's not No, it's
not a sport. It's a frathouse game. For the most part.
It's not regulated like a sport,not yet, at least Dana White wants
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to bring more regulation into it.But you have two massive guys usually who
are seeing how much blunt force traumathey can take. That's it. You're
standing with your hands at your sideand a guy across the table who is
going to haul off and slap youas hard as he possibly can. Your
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arms are down at your side,you can't defend yourself in any way.
You're just willingly accepting brain damage.That's some way I can describe it.
How is this different substantially than theSouth Park Roachambo game where they just kick
each other in the nuts as hardas they case. It's pretty much the
same acceptance as a different part ofthe body. That's it okay because you're
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just having to sit there and takeit. Is it entertaining? Yeah,
it's entertaining because unlike boxing, unlikeMMA, you are guaranteed a knockout.
It's not going any distance. Youknow that someone's gonna end up on his
back. It translates to television andpay per view events in that regard.
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I completely get what Dana White seesas far as the future. He saw
some guys videos on YouTube and said, hey, why don't why don't I
like put some parameters on this packageit, market it and then sell it.
And that's what he's doing. Myproblem is, I should say,
my concern is, just like theUFC, the participants will probably will get
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paid next to nothing, and thathas been the long time critique of the
UFC. They may have great cards, but you have a lot of guys
beating the hell out of each otherfor just pennies on the dollar when you
compare it to boxing pay per viewand other pay per view events. If
the Aliens are seeing this stuff beamedout into space and they get it,
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however, many years later, we'regonna have some gort and plateau moment where
they warn us just to keep toourselves with this crap. Oh yes,
yes, the day the Earth stoodstill. If you guys, if you
guys are making a televised sport outof just standing there and slapping each other,
we don't want you as part ofthe Galactic Federation. Well, well,
come on now, this is justafter the fourth of July with a
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hot dog eating contest which is televisedon ESPN. So don't think that this
is beneath us. We've been downhere for many, many years. We
also televise jarts, long darts,and and you know what's the beanbag gang?
I don't know, oh, cornhole, cornhole. And they have a
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professional pillow fighting two right, Sothere's nothing that's too far, you know,
beyond the pale when it comes tomaking money off of inane events.
Well just one second. Here isthe pillow fighting set exclusively in sorority houses.
Because no, don't count me in. No, this is not like
mud wrestling. It's not like it'stwo dudes slinging a pillow at each other.
Well you lost me. Perhaps itis. It's like the slapping thing,
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but I mean they, I meanthey wind up. I mean you
don't think a pillow can douce anydamage until you see these guys just like
wail on each other. Is ita my pillow? No it is not.
Okay, no, it's it's it'sjust a good but you know,
the power slot. It's cool towatch, and I don't mind when someone
else has taken all the punishment.I really don't. And if you want
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to subject yourself to that pun intended, knock yourself out, because it's going
to end badly for everyone. Youcan't tell me that you're making enough money
to justify that type of punishment andabuse. It looks incredibly painful. Have
you ever seen anything fly out ofsomebody's mouth or off their head or I
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haven't seen. I haven't seen anyonelose any teeth. I've seen spin.
I've seen a spit get knocked outof their mouth. I think they do
wear ear plugs to their credit,so they don't rupture someone's ear drum boxing
someone's ears. If you had toguess, what would you say the aggregate
IQ would be of a competitor inthe slap of ninety four ninety five.
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Yeah, okay, yeah, youknow, because you can't rationalize that on
any level as being a good ideafor your life. The number probably also
goes down after each competition. Well, it's gotta be law of diminishing returns.
The more you enter, the worseyour life gets. The whole the
idea of Alzheimer's is probably a likelihoodat a certain point. Well, it's
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pugilistic Parkinson's from the Headshow. Yeah, if I am six forty live everywhere
in the iHeartRadio app you're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Before we getout of here, just want to let
you know I often talk about howI do. I practice and teach hop
qto, which is a Korean martialart, and recently I was in South
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Korea for the purpose of a coupleof our students were training and Also I
was helping out with a seminar andone of our students was fighting in the
World Championships. My dojon which isKorean for studio to have an open house,
and we're gonna like bring a friendto work day. It's our Friends
and Family Day, which is comingup on August seventeenth. We'll be giving
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you some information about that if youlike to come through and see what I
do firsthand in person, maybe evenexplore the world of traditional martial arts.
Does it matter your age or levelof ability, it may be something for
you to consider, or maybe somethingfor your children. But that's coming up
on August seventeenth, and we'll makesure we have that information for you and
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you can check it out. Andas I look at Mark Ronner and to
Wallace Sharp, I'm always reminded ofhow martial arts has helped us along the
way, kept us out of troublealong the way, giving us focus,
discipline, and notice I didn't sayanything about actual fighting, just all the
things that help us in life ingeneral, not the things that people think
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that's the only thing you get outof it. It's a lifesaver, living
proof. It has helped me managemy emotions in so many different ways.
It's helped me when I was inschool, helped meet with school work to
focus, because when you're doing martialarts, it's you against you. There
are no excuses if you didn't practice, if you didn't perfect your techniques,
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there's no one to look at.That's you. You know what the expectations
are and you know when the testis you have to do what you need
to do, or you don't advance, you don't progress. And if anything,
that really prepared me for life tostop making excuses. And I'm told
a long time ago that excuses aretools of the incompetent. Those who specialize
them never amount to anything. SoI try to give excuses for anything,
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and I owe a lot of thatto martial arts. For me, I
think on a daily basis, withall that I do and everything I do
to stay busy, the onliest regretthat I have on a daily basis is
that I work so much I havenot been able to get back in to
my dojeng and actually complete my trainingand just carry on. And that's something
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that I think about all the timeof like, Okay, got to get
back to a point where I canwork in time to do that because I
don't want to have fascet. Itis a serious commitment. At our school
at Southern California Taekwondo Academy, itwas a very serious school and what they
teach. But I want to completethat, and I also long for even
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the new journeys. Like you knowthey say, once you achieve your black
belt, go find a white beltand do something else, And for me,
that's something that I want to getinto it. I know, me
and Mark talked a little while agoabout even kraudmagd and just different forms.
But I love everything about martial artsconcerning the self discipline and what it does
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for you internally. Not no onethat actually studies martial arts is actually going
out looking for a fight, Iwould hope not. No. No.
If you are studying martial arts,it is about studying yourself at advancing yourself.
People who study and practice mixed martialarts, yes you're looking for fights,
because that's what you're doing your trainingfor. Right, different disciplines,
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martial arts is mastering yourself. Anotherway to put that is that it can
give you the confidence not to fight. Right. I can't count how many
times I walked away from something thatI was all together willing to do,
and you think about nothing good isgoing to come up this and I forgot
to say its songs Hopketo which isfour three five four Supulvida Boulevard and you
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can look us up on the weband songs hopktowesla dot com. Yeah,
it's it's when I say it savedmy life a lot of times. It's
just having me walk away from situations. Yeah. Yeah, because I like
YouTube, have a little bit ofa temper. And as I get older,
old, what you just hang ona second with that, But as
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I get older, you know,the consequence is the worse. And look,
I'm fifty four years old. I'mnot trying to tangle with some twenty
thirty year old guy. I'm not. I'm really not. But you know,
it teaches you, hopefully how togracefully age hopefully. Look at the
people who mix it up in public. They don't strike you as people who
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are competent in the martial arts.They're insecure people who don't know how to
control their emotions and they don't knowhow it's going to turn out. Generally,
anybody with actual experience and martial artswill do anything they can not to
fight, but if they're pushed toit go all out, they're going to
be able to take care of themselves. Yeah, and that's what I tell
people. I can protect myself.That's all I want to do. I'm
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not trying to harm someone. Yeah, I don't. I don't think I've
ever started to fight, except formaybe I was a very young teenager,
I don't think I ever have startedone. You weed bullies out of the
martial arts pretty quickly, Yeah,Yeah, I think that's true. And
I think that's true. And alsothere's an expectation if you are fighting outside
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the dojong of the studio, thenyou usually have to answer to your master
instructor, because if you're taught well, you're taught correctly, you're not supposed
to be doing that. You're notsupposed to be using your skills on other
people just for the hell of it. Yeah, and I'm not so familiar
with yours, But in mind,we were like a family. We spent
time together outside of class, andwe knew what was going on in each
other's lives. Absolutely, we werealways there for each other, like for
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example, when my father died,my instructor and a few black Belts came
to just support me because it's afamily environment and you're there for family when
family needs you. Yeah, notjust in the studio, you know,
to work out with each other.And that's one of my biggest complaints my
word about MMA, because I don'tthink you could get anything out of MMA
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that you can take off the matwith you, that you can take with
you later in life. You shouldbe learning something that's a pile to your
life outside of what you can doin a ring or an octagon. You're
one hundred percent right about that,because learning the techniques without learning the discipline
and the philosophy will leave you withnothing but less than a full set of
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adult teeth and some damage joints.That's not how you go about it.
Yeah, there is a philosophy forall these martial arts. They were created
out of necessity and there is aflow to them that you should be able
to identify with an input in yourlife. Hop Keto with something that grew
out of the Japanese occupation where weaponswere outlawed, formal martial arts training was
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outlawed, the use of the Koreanlanguage was outlawed, and hopketo grew as
a function of using household items asweapons, being able to fight without a
weapon. There are three types ofhop keto techniques. There's hand against hand,
there's hand against weapon, and weaponagainst weapon. But our weapons are
things that you don't think of beingweapons, like a cane or a short
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stick, or things that you findaround the house when you have to say
a long stick that could be abroom, that could be a mop,
anything like that. Have a littleJackie chin footstool foo. Well that's kung
fu. Oh okay, sorry,sorry, I get a mixed up sometimes.
Yeah. Stood, get off myshow. We'll see you tomorrow.
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kellyon demand from KFI AM six forty.
We frequently discuss the evolution of videomedia, how we consume our television,
and the whole idea of television.The term is antiquated. People may not
consume their visual media on a televisionanymore. It might be your desktop computer,
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it might be a laptop, itmight be your phone, it could
be a combination of all those things. But the visual medium how we consume
entertainment is ever evolving. It wasjust last year, and I know you
remember this twelve we were talking aboutthe merger of all these different companies,
notably Paramount Plus and Showtime, AndI said back then that one made sense
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because Paramount is more television than anything, and they needed movies with Showtime.
And it also highlighted how the streamingindustry was consolidating. You're seeing more and
more of these bundles and more andmore of these mergers pulling all their assets
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together. But remember I said ParamountPlus and Showtime. So when I read
today about this next deal with Paramountand how they are mixing their assets and
combining with Skydance Media, a movieproduction company, I started scratching my head.
Paramount Global board members on Sunday approveda bid by Skydance Media and its
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backers to buy the Redstones family theSummer Redstone. They're Massachusetts holding firm National
Amusements, Incorporated, and Redstone's votingstock in Paramount would be transferred to Skydance.
Giving David Ellison, you may knowthat he is a tech maven,
and he's also son of billionaire OracleCorporation co founder Larry Ellison. Control of
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Paramount, which means Paramount Pictures,broadcast network CBS, cable channels, MTV,
Comedy Central, and Nickelodeon. Thetwo things that I noticed on the
surface. When you have a techperson involved, you're talking about creating a
delivery system, but you need tohave content and IP for that delivery system.
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So I get that much, butI don't know why there would be
any interest in purchasing the paramount portionof Paramount plus in showtime. Here's why.
In this deal, it's including broadcastnetwork CBS broadcasts. That's we've talked
about this since any number of times. That's the past. It's not moving
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in the right direction. Cable that'sthe past. And do you say cable
channels MTV, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon. They still exist. Yeah, yes
they exist. Are you going tobreak it up and sell it for parts?
I don't know how you're going to. I don't know how that's attractive
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because you can always create a streamingchannel anywhere. I just don't know how
MTV, Comedy Central and Nickelodeon asbrand entities are of great value in twenty
twenty four. Comedy Central probably hasthe most cachet. Oh maybe Nickelodeon.
I mean they still have a lotof programming on Nickelodeon. I guess,
yeah, I know what I'm saying. Yeah, it just seems it's almost
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like Paramount doesn't know what it wantsto do. And I know there might
be a difference between Paramount Plus andParamount Pictures and Paramount Global, but it's
all in the same pond. Istaidly though, because Nickelodeon they had big
success with the last teenage meaning NinjaTurtles movie they put out, and they
also have that brand, and thereare a lot of animated series that they've
got so that stream on the Nickelodeonapp. Leave them. I believe they
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do have an app. MTV Ididn't know. They still exist. It
exists, there's just no music.The whole idea of music, remember how
I started this television, The wholeconcept, the idea of music television doesn't
exist anymore, the Comedy Central.But I mean, but Paramount. That
means they get the library right,all the films. Yeah, all that
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that goes back to the IP andsky Dance because sky Dances, like what,
that's top Gun, that's all ofTom Cruise, the things. That's
mission impossible, right, it couldbe good, It could be it could
be good. I'm just saying itseems like there's a lot of dead weight.
The timing is weird because you musthave read the last few weeks that
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Comedy Central and MTV both deleted wholesaledecades worth of their content. Yeah they
did, Yeah, they sure did. Yeah they did. And bets well
that didn't count. I got athink against BT, you know, and
most people think, isn't that blackentertainment television? That's it's not. It's
really not. And that's a wholenother discussion. But the whole idea of
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Paramount giving over control to sky Dance, and I know there's probably another component
to this deal that we haven't beenmade aware of yet. We don't know
what they're trying to do big picture, it just doesn't seem like you would
be as valuable as the eight pointfour billion dollar transaction would suggest. I
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think Paramount also has Beavis and buttHeads, so that explains everything. Oh,
jewel in the crown right there.I mean, but it's like this
guy, David Ellison, he's hein a in an interview saying that he
wants to turn into a technology andmedia company, not media technology, so
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he wants to focus on technology byway of media, and and this makes
sense. Well that's to say,if they have another type of delivery system
in mind where you could go punitendedstreamline mainline their content to people, then
okay, maybe that's a part ofthe bigger picture that we're just not seeing
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but looking at it from an IPperspective. And of course they're much smarter
than me. This is what theydo all the time. I'm just not
seeing what they're seeing. Well,they had to do something with Paramount because
it was losing money. Nobody exceptme this subscribe Okay, right, that's
my point. It just seems likeit's a loser of a deal. On
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its face. Nah, but wecan't forget about again. If you're trying
to say, if you're trying tostart up a new platform, all right,
and sky Nance wants this, thisguy larire Elson, he wants to
do something new. Shake up themonopolies of Disney Plus and all that you
got, not just the films,but all of the TV series that Paramount
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owns, not counting just the CBSseries, but all everything under the Paramount
umbrella. You've got decades worth ofcontent that you can put into a streaming
service Star Trek, big deal.No, No, I get that,
But let's make an apt comparison.So does Disney with the whole Disney Plus
and ABC. They had all theseries, all that legacy content, and
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it still was not enough for DisneyPlus to turn a profit. I'm trying
to compare apples to apples. Yeah. I think they're just trying to come
up with some combo that people willpay for that includes Paramount Plus, because
clearly it wasn't cutting it on itsown. No, no, and very
few are. I think it's maybeHulu and Netflix the only ones that are
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making any money. Not Disney Plus, isn't They're not losing there not bleeding
as much. They're not bleeding asmuch. But you know, for all
the content that Disney Plus has,it has not turned out to be the
money maker that it was originally envisionedto be, hence the raising of the
prices like every single year and ahuge price jump this past year. But
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they still have me. There's enoughfor me across Marvel, across Star Wars,
across there are other oh I can'tremember the different production companies they have.
Excuse me, yes, said Pixar. There's enough for me to stay
in. There's nothing on Paramount Plusbecause that one show about the video game
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guy. There are a couple acouple of shows that I watched on Paramount
Plus. I think Tulsa king wasone. I never even got to that,
I think. So. So,I know, Paramount's got all the
different Star treks, They've got theOriginal Mission Impossible, and the movies Beavis
and butthead Like and they've got they'vegot, uh, what's the Jeremy Renners
show as well, Mayor of Kingstown. Yeah, I think that's what I
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was watching that I was watching.That not enough to keep the app up.
I'm sorry. There's just there's nothingon that I I wanted it to
win because I like the Lower Deckseries. I thought that was for me.
Mark, I'm sorry, one ofthe best of the track show.
You're on your own. Yeah.I need more than just a show here
or there. And I don't feellike watching Beavis and butthead anymore. Well,
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that sucks. Look that's right upyour alley to go ahead and pay
for it. I'm just not goingto this. Later with Mo Kelly KIM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadioApple. We have an Apple TV time
Bandits update. Yes, they're remakingthe nineteen eighty one movie. Should they?
Why would they? Will it work? We have all the answers on
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the other side. You're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty time Bandits. TimeBandits, the one you are supposed to
be promoting. Remember you flopped tosee Closing Conos for the special effect.
You went to Superman to see aman fly. You went to Star Wars
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for the droids. You went nowwatch it that time to page one see
Untars. Time Bandits can offer youmuch much more. It's not the special
effects of flying men or droids,which makes Time Bandits a unique cinematique cinematic
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you know, pertaining to the cinemacinematic experience. It's the makeup. Yes,
fach, You've never seen anything likeit. Men made up to look
like monsters, Monsters made up tolook like men look alike, men made
up to look different, different,men made up to look alike. No
expense has been paired, spared onthe pandstick haandstick. No expense has been
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spared flying in the world's greatest makeupman. Just a minute, Just a
minute? What about the plot?The word, the plot, what the
film is about? Well, Ihaven't seen it, have haven't sequel.
You're sitting there telling millions of peopleto go and see a film you haven't
even seen. You I can't seeit film I do no ca okay?
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If I am six forty is laterwith Mo Kelly Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app And that is the original trailerfrom the movie Time Bandit's nineteen eighty one.
It starred Sean Connery, John Cleasee, Shelley Duvall, Kenny Baker,
who was R. Two D twoin the original Star Wars, Warwick Davis
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also from the Star Wars universe.Willow a lot of legends in their own
right. And now that movie,if you remember it, I know Tawala
remembers it well. I somewhat rememberit. I didn't haven't seen it in
many, many years. It wasfull of, as you listen to the
trailer, practical effects and makeup,not cgi and special effects that were accustomed
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to today. It's now being remadefor Apple TV and it has a July
twenty fourth release date. Tula,we talk about don't remake classics or cult
classics. Where do you come outon this one? This one actually works,
and it actually works because of Ibelieve the leading vision behind it,
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Tayikawa tit this is a series that'smade for him. I believe Time Bannis
is just a film that was right. And this was originally going to be
a film. It was going tobe a film, but then when looking
at it and looking at how theywanted to make it reach today's audience,
they said, no, we're gonnahave to stretch this out and make it
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a series because as a film itself, it's gonna miss its mark and not
enough kids are gonna be able toget into it quick enough to understand it.
Why can't you be a normal passionwith normal friends. Well, you've
stuck in the past, Kevin.You got to stop it with all these
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vikings in the ancient gates as well. Mom, my wardrobe is moving.
Whoa hold on? How is hehere? Just go along your room.
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It's a tiny dress. It allowsus to travel throughout the universe. Tell
me who you are or I willhew you. I am Penelope, and
I am in effect the leader.Fundamentally though, we are all equal.
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Who are you, guys? We'rethe Time Bandits, a crack team of
expert fiees. Nothing is too bigfor us to steal. Okay, now
that we're close, maybe it istoo big to steal, so you're still
in on it. I actually am. I think that the casting is good,
and I think that a lot ofthe site humor and the things that
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they're doing to me, it ringstrue to the original. This is one
of those ones I'm like, thisactually works. The cast looks really really
good, looks funny. They gotto spend a lot of money because Time
Bandits, I do remember, wasbig big. It was really big size
scope sets, the practical effects.I would want the same for this series.
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Sometimes I'm always leary of turning moviesin the television series because sometimes they
lag, they drag. That's myconcern. But I'm with you on this.
It's been forty three years. Ithink there's enough time in between.
And most of the cast that Itold you about, from Sean Connery,
most, not all, but mostthey've passed. Yeah, obviously John Cleeese
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has not, Warwick Davis has it, but most of them, And this
is a series that could lead tocould lead to some guest appearances because it
looks like that kind of show.It is a show where if every episode
is an adventure, it doesn't haveto have filler episodes. Well like a
lot of these reboot series that wesee, it could be one mad cap
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adventure after another into a different world. And that's what makes this work.
I need to see John Cleese.I would really like to see John Cleaton.
It's me, I know, andI for me that would mean okay,
it's received a stamp of approval fromJohn Cleees. Always been a John
Cleees fan. Warwick Davis, hecould make it. I don't want to
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see him, No, no,don't don't hold Willow against Warwick I'm holding
the Willow series against him. No, no, well neither. It's not
his fault. He had to doit. That just act. Mark,
you're a Clease fan. I thinkall the people in Miny Python are like
the Beatles of comedy. But ifyou really want this stamp of approval,
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I want to hear what Terry Gilliamhas to say about this. He's the
one who he's a Python member whodirected the original Time Bandits, and he's
reached the point in his life wherehe doesn't care what he says about anything.
I want to hear what he hasto say. So far, he's
absolutely one erred percent on board,absolutely one on board. So they must
have cut him a check. Ah, Mark, Well, you're right,
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that's science fiction. How dare I? Well, no, they could have
cut him a check. But itdoesn't mean that he's going to be effusive
in blessing it. Mark Hamill hasreceived many a check from Star Wars and
he still was talking. He's stillabout those last films and totally justified too.
Right. Yes, when we comeback, we're going to tell you
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about the new I can't call ita mixed martial arts sport, but the
next sport which is being promoted bythe UFC the Ultimate Fighting Championship Power Slapping.
If you haven't seen the videos,it is wild, it is crazy,
and it's really dangerous. But youknow what, it's pretty compelling.
We'll tell you about it next.You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
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demand from KFI AM six forty Powerslapis a new league which was created by
Dana White of the UFC, andit pits two people against each other and
they have a slapfest, trading blowsuntil one person is knocked out or at
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least off their feet. It's veryviolent. It's becoming very very popular.
In fact, according to Dana White, power Slap has gained over a million
and a half Instagram followers just thisyear, and that happens to be more
than NASCAR, Major League Soccer,the NFL, Major League Baseball, and
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the NHL. Right hand on three, that's the only one. You didn't
make it good. This one's gonnabe good, my friends. Buckle up.
Let's go to Crazy Hawaiian on righthere. Guys, that's a great
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ninety nine. He's splits in people'sfaces off because we're like that. I've
never seen him delivered that kind ofPowell before Chris Thomas was almost Darne.
He's not there? Will he stillbe there in just a second? Oh
dad up? Swa ain't going tothe score cards. We have a new
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will Toy champion less ye And thatfinal blow was thrown by a Manual Moodies.
He made him count. Austin Turpin, he's a killer. Will he
be clean turf he slays? Don'tdie Viana? Oh my god, he
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ain't getting up from the knock outbaby earning Kathy this by special too?
Oh my god, Yeah, slapthe ball time. Garry van Hearton,
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he is gonna be a problem.Andry van Herton is exactly the kind of
super heavyweight we're looking for in thissport. And it's not No, it's
not a sport. It's a frathouse game. For the most part.
It's not regulated like a sport,not yet, at least Dana White wants
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to bring more regulation into it.But you have two massive guys usually who
are seeing how much blunt force traumathey can take. That's it. You're
standing with your hands at your sideand a guy across the table who is
going to haul off and slap youas hard as he possibly can. Your
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arms are down at your side,you can't defend yourself in any way.
You're just willingly accepting brain damage.That's some way I can describe it.
How is this different substantially than theSouth Park Roachambo game where they just kick
each other in the nuts as hardas they case. It's pretty much the
same acceptance as a different part ofthe body. That's it okay because you're
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just having to sit there and takeit. Is it entertaining? Yeah,
it's entertaining because unlike boxing, unlikeMMA, you are guaranteed a knockout.
It's not going any distance. Youknow that someone's gonna end up on his
back. It translates to television andpay per view events in that regard.
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I completely get what Dana White seesas far as the future. He saw
some guys videos on YouTube and said, hey, why don't why don't I
like put some parameters on this packageit, market it and then sell it.
And that's what he's doing. Myproblem is, I should say,
my concern is, just like theUFC, the participants will probably will get
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paid next to nothing, and thathas been the long time critique of the
UFC. They may have great cards, but you have a lot of guys
beating the hell out of each otherfor just pennies on the dollar when you
compare it to boxing pay per viewand other pay per view events. If
the Aliens are seeing this stuff beamedout into space and they get it,
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however, many years later, we'regonna have some gort and plateau moment where
they warn us just to keep toourselves with this crap. Oh yes,
yes, the day the Earth stoodstill. If you guys, if you
guys are making a televised sport outof just standing there and slapping each other,
we don't want you as part ofthe Galactic Federation. Well, well,
come on now, this is justafter the fourth of July with a
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hot dog eating contest which is televisedon ESPN. So don't think that this
is beneath us. We've been downhere for many, many years. We
also televise jarts, long darts,and and you know what's the beanbag gang?
I don't know, oh, cornhole, cornhole. And they have a
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professional pillow fighting two right, Sothere's nothing that's too far, you know,
beyond the pale when it comes tomaking money off of inane events.
Well just one second. Here isthe pillow fighting set exclusively in sorority houses.
Because no, don't count me in. No, this is not like
mud wrestling. It's not like it'stwo dudes slinging a pillow at each other.
Well you lost me. Perhaps itis. It's like the slapping thing,
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but I mean they, I meanthey wind up. I mean you
don't think a pillow can douce anydamage until you see these guys just like
wail on each other. Is ita my pillow? No it is not.
Okay, no, it's it's it'sjust a good but you know,
the power slot. It's cool towatch, and I don't mind when someone
else has taken all the punishment.I really don't. And if you want
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to subject yourself to that pun intended, knock yourself out, because it's going
to end badly for everyone. Youcan't tell me that you're making enough money
to justify that type of punishment andabuse. It looks incredibly painful. Have
you ever seen anything fly out ofsomebody's mouth or off their head or I
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haven't seen. I haven't seen anyonelose any teeth. I've seen spin.
I've seen a spit get knocked outof their mouth. I think they do
wear ear plugs to their credit,so they don't rupture someone's ear drum boxing
someone's ears. If you had toguess, what would you say the aggregate
IQ would be of a competitor inthe slap of ninety four ninety five.
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Yeah, okay, yeah, youknow, because you can't rationalize that on
any level as being a good ideafor your life. The number probably also
goes down after each competition. Well, it's gotta be law of diminishing returns.
The more you enter, the worseyour life gets. The whole the
idea of Alzheimer's is probably a likelihoodat a certain point. Well, it's
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pugilistic Parkinson's from the Headshow. Yeah, if I am six forty live everywhere
in the iHeartRadio app you're listening toLater with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI
AM six forty. Before we getout of here, just want to let
you know I often talk about howI do. I practice and teach hop
qto, which is a Korean martialart, and recently I was in South
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Korea for the purpose of a coupleof our students were training and Also I
was helping out with a seminar andone of our students was fighting in the
World Championships. My dojon which isKorean for studio to have an open house,
and we're gonna like bring a friendto work day. It's our Friends
and Family Day, which is comingup on August seventeenth. We'll be giving
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you some information about that if youlike to come through and see what I
do firsthand in person, maybe evenexplore the world of traditional martial arts.
Does it matter your age or levelof ability, it may be something for
you to consider, or maybe somethingfor your children. But that's coming up
on August seventeenth, and we'll makesure we have that information for you and
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you can check it out. Andas I look at Mark Ronner and to
Wallace Sharp, I'm always reminded ofhow martial arts has helped us along the
way, kept us out of troublealong the way, giving us focus,
discipline, and notice I didn't sayanything about actual fighting, just all the
things that help us in life ingeneral, not the things that people think
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that's the only thing you get outof it. It's a lifesaver, living
proof. It has helped me managemy emotions in so many different ways.
It's helped me when I was inschool, helped meet with school work to
focus, because when you're doing martialarts, it's you against you. There
are no excuses if you didn't practice, if you didn't perfect your techniques,
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there's no one to look at.That's you. You know what the expectations
are and you know when the testis you have to do what you need
to do, or you don't advance, you don't progress. And if anything,
that really prepared me for life tostop making excuses. And I'm told
a long time ago that excuses aretools of the incompetent. Those who specialize
them never amount to anything. SoI try to give excuses for anything,
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and I owe a lot of thatto martial arts. For me, I
think on a daily basis, withall that I do and everything I do
to stay busy, the onliest regretthat I have on a daily basis is
that I work so much I havenot been able to get back in to
my dojeng and actually complete my trainingand just carry on. And that's something
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that I think about all the timeof like, Okay, got to get
back to a point where I canwork in time to do that because I
don't want to have fascet. Itis a serious commitment. At our school
at Southern California Taekwondo Academy, itwas a very serious school and what they
teach. But I want to completethat, and I also long for even
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the new journeys. Like you knowthey say, once you achieve your black
belt, go find a white beltand do something else, And for me,
that's something that I want to getinto it. I know, me
and Mark talked a little while agoabout even kraudmagd and just different forms.
But I love everything about martial artsconcerning the self discipline and what it does
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for you internally. Not no onethat actually studies martial arts is actually going
out looking for a fight, Iwould hope not. No. No.
If you are studying martial arts,it is about studying yourself at advancing yourself.
People who study and practice mixed martialarts, yes you're looking for fights,
because that's what you're doing your trainingfor. Right, different disciplines,
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martial arts is mastering yourself. Anotherway to put that is that it can
give you the confidence not to fight. Right. I can't count how many
times I walked away from something thatI was all together willing to do,
and you think about nothing good isgoing to come up this and I forgot
to say its songs Hopketo which isfour three five four Supulvida Boulevard and you
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can look us up on the weband songs hopktowesla dot com. Yeah,
it's it's when I say it savedmy life a lot of times. It's
just having me walk away from situations. Yeah. Yeah, because I like
YouTube, have a little bit ofa temper. And as I get older,
old, what you just hang ona second with that, But as
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I get older, you know,the consequence is the worse. And look,
I'm fifty four years old. I'mnot trying to tangle with some twenty
thirty year old guy. I'm not. I'm really not. But you know,
it teaches you, hopefully how togracefully age hopefully. Look at the
people who mix it up in public. They don't strike you as people who
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are competent in the martial arts.They're insecure people who don't know how to
control their emotions and they don't knowhow it's going to turn out. Generally,
anybody with actual experience and martial artswill do anything they can not to
fight, but if they're pushed toit go all out, they're going to
be able to take care of themselves. Yeah, and that's what I tell
people. I can protect myself.That's all I want to do. I'm
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not trying to harm someone. Yeah, I don't. I don't think I've
ever started to fight, except formaybe I was a very young teenager,
I don't think I ever have startedone. You weed bullies out of the
martial arts pretty quickly, Yeah,Yeah, I think that's true. And
I think that's true. And alsothere's an expectation if you are fighting outside
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the dojong of the studio, thenyou usually have to answer to your master
instructor, because if you're taught well, you're taught correctly, you're not supposed
to be doing that. You're notsupposed to be using your skills on other
people just for the hell of it. Yeah, and I'm not so familiar
with yours, But in mind,we were like a family. We spent
time together outside of class, andwe knew what was going on in each
other's lives. Absolutely, we werealways there for each other, like for
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example, when my father died,my instructor and a few black Belts came
to just support me because it's afamily environment and you're there for family when
family needs you. Yeah, notjust in the studio, you know,
to work out with each other.And that's one of my biggest complaints my
word about MMA, because I don'tthink you could get anything out of MMA
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that you can take off the matwith you, that you can take with
you later in life. You shouldbe learning something that's a pile to your
life outside of what you can doin a ring or an octagon. You're
one hundred percent right about that,because learning the techniques without learning the discipline
and the philosophy will leave you withnothing but less than a full set of
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adult teeth and some damage joints.That's not how you go about it.
Yeah, there is a philosophy forall these martial arts. They were created
out of necessity and there is aflow to them that you should be able
to identify with an input in yourlife. Hop Keto with something that grew
out of the Japanese occupation where weaponswere outlawed, formal martial arts training was
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outlawed, the use of the Koreanlanguage was outlawed, and hopketo grew as
a function of using household items asweapons, being able to fight without a
weapon. There are three types ofhop keto techniques. There's hand against hand,
there's hand against weapon, and weaponagainst weapon. But our weapons are
things that you don't think of beingweapons, like a cane or a short
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stick, or things that you findaround the house when you have to say
a long stick that could be abroom, that could be a mop,
anything like that. Have a littleJackie chin footstool foo. Well that's kung
fu. Oh okay, sorry,sorry, I get a mixed up sometimes.
Yeah. Stood, get off myshow. We'll see you tomorrow.
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