June 5, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on news of the Kobe and Gigi mural being vandalized yet again AND how that connects to the story of the North Salinas High School track star that was stripped of her title after inappropriately celebrating her win - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Gay if I am sixty, it's later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. No video simulcast tonight.
Our video director Daniel has the night off, tending to
some family business, and I always say family first. So
Daniel and the video simulcast will be back tomorrow. But
we have plenty to cover, plenty of cover. I know
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you're upset no video simulcast. You get used to it.
You like to see my pretty face every single day.
Or maybe Mark's because Mark has a has a club,
like an only fans club. That's all I want to
describe it. Yeah, it's too bad because I'm looking really
good today. Yeah. Yeah, don't you have a birthday coming up?
No you don't know you sure, Let's move on, Okay.
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It honestly feels weird without the moment goos. Yeah, you
get used to it, like you get interacted with the time.
It's almost like we have to go back to boring,
stale every day radio. We just hear my voice. You
have to imagine what I look like. You have to
rely on the dulcet tones of my beautiful Soto voce. Yeah, anyhow,
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back to reality. We still have a wonderful and jam
packed show for you. There's some things we have to
talk about. You know that Kobe and Gigi mural which
was vandalized some time ago, Well they vandalized it again.
But I'm gonna talk about it from a very different
vantage point, and I'm going to connect it to this
other story about this high school track star who was
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stripped of her title for an inappropriate celebration. I believe
that those those two stories are connected. And here's a hint, Mark.
I know you remember, maybe about a year ago, people
were complaining about the LA District Attorney George Gascone, how
he was so permissive, he wasn't enforcing the laws. And
the argument was, because George Gascone wasn't enforcing laws, criminals
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figured this out and they were more inclined to engage
in criminal behavior because they felt that there were no consequences.
You remember that argument at least, right. I believe that
may have been in heavy rotation here at KFI. Yes
it was. I'm going to make the argument. I want
you to start thinking about this now that the George
Gascone argument and laws having to do with adults also
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applies to kids, young people and bad parenting. Yeah, you're
the don't spare the rod type. I can tell where
this is. You know this is going right, Okay, I'm
gonna make the connection badass kids turn into criminals. Okay,
So if you're mad about George Gascon, or you were
mad about George Gascon, I'm telling you right now there's
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going to be a healthy bit of criticism of parenting
leading up unto that point. They didn't just wake up
on a Saturday morning said well, hell, I'm going to
be a criminal because George Gascone's in office. No, no, no,
there is. There's a developmental process. There is a growth
process kind of make your way into criminality. Lack of
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consequences for children, lack of consequences for an adult kind
of the same thing. But we're getting that a little
bit later. And I have a really long and expansive,
extensive final thought, and I'm going to tell you right
now it has to do with this most recent revelation
that ICE agents will not have to ask for I
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should say, will not even have to provide warrants for
upcoming arrests. They have been told to effectuate more arrests
even without wants, even though that's in direct opposition to
the UH to the Constitution. So I got plenty to
talk about tonight. Plenty. It is unfortunate if you just
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tune in. No, we don't have the video simocast tonight.
I'm sad you're said, we're all set. I know that,
But we don't have the video simulcast tonight because Daniel,
our video technical director, is off doing personal stuff tonight
and I can't have him come in all the time
just on. You know, he has family to deal with.
I have family to deal with, you know how it is.
Family is first. But the video simulcast will be back
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tomorrow night. And I have an unfortunate feeling that you
and me and Mark Roner we're going to be more
agreeing than disagreeing tonight, and that was not my plan. Well,
that bores everyone, doesn't it? Not necessarily because I have
my pants on in this studio and you don't have
your pants on because we are not having a video simulcast,
and some people take advantage of that. Yeah, if nobody
can see, it's all theater of the mind tonight. No,
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but really, I mean, we have video screens and I
can tell that you're not wearing any pants. Unfortunately, well,
I did it for you. You're welcome so quote jd Vance.
Have you said thank you even once? You ungrateful bastard?
You seriously It's Later with Mo Kelly camp I AM
six forty. We're only live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app tonight,
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video simulcast back tomorrow.
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Speaker 1 (05:26):
KFI AMS six forties. Later with Mo Kelly Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app, no video sybumcast tonight. It'll be
back tomorrow and once again, unfortunately, the Kobe and GG
Bryant Mural in downtown LA has been ventialized. The mural
If You Don't Know is located at thirteen sixty one
Main Street in La add It depicts Kobe with his
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daughter Gigi when she was a toddler. Artists slow underscore
Motions created the mural If You Didn't Know shortly after Kobe,
Gg and seven others died in that helicopter crash back
on January twenty sixth, twenty twenty. Hard to believe it's
more than five years ago. After restoring the piece of art,
you may know that Luca Danci to the Lakers, donated
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money to have it restored after was first vandalized. It
is now vanalyized once again. It doesn't surprise me, it
does sadden me. But it also reminds me of what
I've already believed and known, that we live at a
time in which there's just a dearth of respect. There
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is a complete lack of respect for anything and everyone.
I'm not condoning graffiti, but I'm old enough to remember
when graffiti tagging even had its own rules. You didn't
tag art, you didn't tag over art, you didn't deface art.
You didn't put your tag on someone's house or someone's
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private property. Now all bets are off me personally. I
don't have a data to confirm this. I can't show
you a study which will verify this, but I'm pretty
sure I'm right just from the eyeball test. This to me,
in a more general sense, is a product of kids
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who've grown up not ever being told no, not knowing boundaries,
not knowing consequences and so and oh and remember when
you probably saw the video to all of all those
youngsters who were tagging and defacing the Metro train maybe
a week or so ago. Yeah, of course, okay, And
I was looking at that, See, those are a bunch
of kids who didn't have their asses whoop when they
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were younger. And this goes back to my rant when
I was talking about I am firmly in support of
corporal punishment spanking, which is different from domestic violence, which
is different from child abuse. And I gave the argument
then it was about teaching young people. Me included boundaries
consequences so that the world didn't have to so you
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didn't end up in jail, so you weren't doing stuff
which was illegal that you would get you punished by
the world. We live at a time where parents don't
want to tell their kids no, like it's stunning their growth.
And then you have a lot of lot of loudmouthed
kids who talk back and what have you. And then
when they get old enough to start doing criminal things.
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That's why you'll see them run up on a train
and just deface it, oh for everyone to see, and
also do it on videos so they could commemorate it.
There is a connection and correlation. In fact, I would
even go so far as to say there's causal relationship
if you don't do this when they are a kid.
When they get to be an adolescent and young adult,
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it is too late, and then they start engaging in
this more egregious behavior and people under don't understand, like,
oh my gosh, how did this happen? Here comes by
George Gascne. Comparison George Gascone for all the people who
did not like him be included was that he was
not enforcing the laws as they were written, made it
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a much more permissive society, and criminals figured out, well,
if I do this, I'm not going to jail. And
if I do go to jail, I'll be out in
twenty four hours because of the laws are this, and
George Gascone is that. And we saw this rise in
crime because they figured out the criminals figured out there
were no consequences. Well, that also translates to how children
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are raised. The moment children realized that they could talk
back to their parents or talk back to their teacher
and there are no consequences. And Twila, I know you
know this as an administrator of a school, parents are
more quick to defend their kids and blame the teacher
than we were coming a law. If my teacher told
my parents that I was acting up. They would look
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at me and say, what did you do? Because an
adult is telling me that you are not acting as
you should or as you were taught, you must have
been doing something wrong. Now it's almost like we want
to make this that create this environment where kids aren't
responsible and accountable in any way. You know what happens.
Eventually they get older and still believe that they're not
accountable and they cannot be held responsible. There is a
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direct connection. I'm positive that there is. I can't quantify
it for you, but I damn sure can qualify it
for you. Don't tell me that the kids who were
defacing the Kobe and gg mural, and don't tell me
the people who were defacing that metro train in playing
view for everyone to see. Don't tell me that the
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kids are going to the street takeovers and then all
of a sudden they are eluding a seven to eleven
right across the street. Don't tell me that those kids
were taught consequences, parameters and boundaries when they were younger,
because as sure as I'm sitting here, if they were,
they wouldn't be doing that. They don't just wake up
one day after a stern, discipline filled upbringing and decide,
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you know what, I think I'm going to go out
and tag a metro train today. Because all the other
stuff that got my ass beat as a kid, you
know what, I don't think that applies anymore. I was
definitely afraid of my father, and that's why I didn't
do half the stuff that I did, because an ass
whoopman was waiting for me with my name on it.
I didn't want to go to jail. Why Why not?
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Because I was afraid of a record. I was afraid
of having to ask for my father to bail me
out or have to deal with him. These are all
things what you're connected And as much as we complained
about George Gascon, there is a connection here. There is
a correlation. After all these years of telling our kids, oh,
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you can do whatever you want, Tommy, you don't have
to worry about it. You know, of all these years
of rationalizing and having these discussions with kids and trying
to debate your own kid. My parents never debated with me.
They told me what to do and I either did
it or there were consequences. Because I was a child
and they were an adult. I didn't like it. I
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didn't even understand it. I didn't appreciate it then, but
it also kept me out of certain trouble. And if
you have kids now who have no respect for anything
or anyone, not personal property, not someone's business, not someone's house,
not someone's elders, no respect for nothing, and you wonder
why there is a path in which they traveled. They
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didn't just all of a sudden wake up one day
and say, I'm just gonna be an a hole, I'm
just gonna be a juvenile criminal. I'm just gonna do
what I want and talk back to adults because I
know there are no consequences. No, that started before then,
just before, it was back when they are five to six, seven, eight,
because by the time they get to be fifteen, it's
too late. It is way too late. And then you
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have these kids who don't understand and they want to
act like the world is so unfair. I don't understand it.
And when I talk about this high school athlete track
athlete who was penalized for an inappropriate celebration, I am
going to connect those dots as well, because kids grow
up not knowing where the line is, and as parents,
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our responsibility is what to tell them, teach them and
demonstrate to them where that line is, because if they
know where that line is, or if they try to
step over it as a child and get their ass
smacked like I did, then hopefully there's more of a
likelihood of a reference point when they get to be
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an adolescent of what not to do. I promise you,
if you're tagging trains and that kind of thing at fourteen,
you've been doing a lot of other hellish stuff prior
to fourteen and there were no consequences. How can you
turn on the TV and not realize, oh, that's my
son out there. You know, parents got to take responsibility.
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We want to talk about George gascon enforcing the laws
of the land, Well, you need to enforce the laws
of the household. Promise you, we would be better off
if more parents actually enforce the rules of the household,
as opposed to letting kids do whatever they want. Oh no, no,
they want to be their best friend. Oh yeah, I'll
just let them drink in the house. Oh yeah, that's
not I'd rather drink cares than out out there.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
If this is actually across the board, too, I want
to make sure that everyone is clear. You're not talking
to parents of any class stratus. No, No, this is
parents across the board, because I've seen parents of privilege
getting cussed out by their kids, and I have seen
parents within the impoverished realm have kids where they don't
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know where they are. If both the result in some
kids either running onto a train and tagging or going
over to the Kobe Murro and tagging.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
If you feel so comfortable enough to cuss out your
own parents, I'm quite sure you feel okay with disrespecting
someone's prompt. There is a logical progression. It didn't start
with the tagging of the train. It didn't start with
the street takeover which then turned into a looting of
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the seven to eleven. There is a progression. Yeah, you know,
work your way up to that. And if they're doing
that at fifteen, there were signs along the way at
seven eight, nineteen eleven, twelve thirty fifteen, I'm sure of ITTT.
I'm positive. Okay, Now I know that Mark Ronner and
not gonna use him as a foil because I love
to using the foil. He is a well adjusted individual.
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But I'm quite sure somewhere along the line, someone tried
to show him boundaries and maybe he fought against that.
I'm not sure how much I should really reveal on
the eric you can talk about. You could be general.
I got the living daylights kicked out of me when
I was a kid, but I'm not condoning that. But
I am saying there was a level of intervention to
keep you out of prison to some degree. Yeah, I saw.
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There are people who who are surprised to this day
that I didn't wind up there, but they're see and
look at you. You got your ass beat and you're
here on KFI. Yeah, yeah, boom. You could have been
in prison or dead, And is it fair to say
that you engaged in behavior along the way could have
led to either or both, To say the very least.
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That's all I'm saying. That is all I'm saying. I
know that there's a lot of stuff that I did
not do because the memory or the fear of the
in house consequences that if I did not have that
memory and fear to reel me back in, I most
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likely would still be in prison. I would be another statistic.
It may not have been tagging or graffiti, but it
would have been something criminal in the name of just
having fun and just being an irresponsible team. But I
didn't end up there because my parents told me no.
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It's Later with mo Kelly k I AM six forty
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You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1 (17:25):
KFI. It's mo Kelly. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio App.
No video simulcast tonight, just good old fashioned radio talk radio.
And I'm gonna connect this next story to the last
story because there is a thread which is woven through
all this, and it can be boiled down to simply,
we need to tell our kids no more often for
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their benefit and for our collective benefit as they get older.
I'm going to tell you about a high school track
star who was stripped of her title after celebrating her win.
And you may think, well, what's strong was celebrating a win? Well, time, place, circumstances,
it all matters. And her parent looking at the video
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was her dad? Her dad should have told her no
in advance. A Saint track champion has been stripped of
her title over what state officials call unsportsmanlike conduct.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Claara Adams says she was banned from the podium at
a potentially history making race for her victory celebration. Video
shows Adam's taking first place in the four hundred meter
final on Saturday in Clovis. The North Salinas High sophomore
says she waited until her opponents were off the track,
and then her dad handed her a fire extinguisher. She
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proceeded to spray her shoes, recreating an iconic moment from
two thousand and four when the track champion Maurice Green
did the same thing. But Adams says state officials immediately
stripped her of her win and banned her from compeding
in the two hundred meter race, which she was a
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favorite to win. The California Interscholastic Federation the CIF has
not publicly commented.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, I played CIF. Is it harsh the consequences? Yes,
it is harsh, but it doesn't mean that it was
unfair or outside the boundaries of the rules. Every CIF
athlete has to sign this waiver and says I have
read and understand the requirements of this Code of Conduct.
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I understand that I'm expected to perform according to this code,
and I understand that there may be sanctions or penalties
if I do not. And if you read it, they're
two specific components. One is under the respect portion disrespectful conduct.
Do not engage in disrespectful conduct of any sort, including profanity,
obscene gestures, offensive remarks of a sexual or racial nature,
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trash talking, taunting, bost full celebrations, or other actions that
demean individuals or the sport. Is that open to interpretation, yes,
but if you leave it open to interpretation, it may
not go your way. That's where parenting comes in. And
there's also responsibility of the athlete. That every single athlete,
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including this track athlete, had to sign role modeling. Remember,
participation in sports is a privilege, not a right, and
that I, the athlete, am expected to represent my school, coach,
and teammates with honor on and off the field, consistently
exhibit good character and conduct yourself as a positive role model.
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Suspension or termination of the participation privilege is within the
sole discretion of the school administration. Okay, if you leave
it up to interpretation and the thing that you may
do this borderline. You may think it's okay, but those
are looking may not, and those who have your future
athletic career in their hands may not. I'll give you
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a perfect example. I never got more hate as a
high school referee than when I gave Well, let me
tell you the whole story. I'm doing this game at
Miracosta High School and this is for summer league. So
people think it's all relaxed and everything. No, but I'm
a high school ref I'm there using high school rules.
We're gonna go by the high school rules. For example,
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if you dunk before a game during warm up, that's
an automatic technical. I don't care if you don't like
the rule, Okay, that's the truth. If you pull your
jersey over your face during the game, it's like, oh,
because you want to protest a caller, you're so mad,
you don't want to show your facial expression. Pull your
jersey over your face. That is an automatic technical by
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the national high school rules. It's not even subject to
debate or discretion. If you slam the basketball on the
court and you don't catch it and rises above your head,
that's an automatic technical. And twala, I bet you may
not know this either did you know that you can
give someone a technical even at the game is over
and time has expired? Wait game over? Mm other words,
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inspired time has expired, crowds going wild? Team thinks they've
won by two points.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yes, it's been called for the most part, and you
do something like some gyrating move on the basketball on
the ground.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'll take exactly what happened this player. I gave a
te at the beginning of the game for Dunky okay,
and I explained to him and his coach have been
backed me up. Those are the rules. You cannot do it.
I gave him a tea and then he wanted to
jaw jack mean. I can't remember the schools it was,
but I remember I was at Mira Coasta High for
the summer league and he kept jawjacking me during the game,
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trying to be smart. His team quote unquote won the game.
Time had expired, but according to the rules, until both officials,
me and my partner have left the court, and that
means like left the court is in left the gymnasier,
the game is still on after time expired. His team
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was winning by two points, and this is summerleague games.
I really don't give an f okay, he was jawjacking
me and he started using profanity and point at me.
I ring him up with the t blew the whistle,
brought both teams back on the court, shot two free
throws for the other team. Oh now it's the tie game.
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We're going into overtime, and the team lost the game
and parents were hot at me. But it's not my
fault that you as to participant either don't know the
rule or don't want to play within the rules and
then don't understand. Is my discretion as far as the
assessment and penalty a technical foul, is that the discretion
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of the official. As far as unsportsmanlike conduct, that's the
tie in when we're talking about sportsmanlike conduct and also
CIF rules, you don't get to decide what is acceptable
as the official. Now. I may not have done that
if it were an end season game, but for a
summer league game, you bet your ass. I wrung them
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up and dared them to say something else. Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Can can a team be banned from being part of
the CIF? Absolutely, they're just that flagrantly disrespectful of the rule.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I've had situations where, let's say you get a certain
point where the game is not in doubt, and you
have one team which is intentionally getting technical files. They're
just making a mockery of the game. You can call
the game right there forfeit. Yeah you can't. You can
toss the players, You can toss the coach for not
controlling the players, and then you can just in the
game and have them forfeit making a mockery of the game. Yeah,
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that is within the power of the officials. And the
only reason I talk about that is this was a
pre planned celebration provided she won the track event. And
it was because what they don't tell you is the
father brought the fire extinguisher to the event. It brought
a small fire extinguisher and you know, and gave it
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to his daughter so she could use the fire extinguisher
on her shoes, like her shoes are on fire and
that kind of thing. And she ended up being stripped
of her title. And I don't have any sympathy because
instead of encouraging that boastful celebration, which is grounds for
penalty suspension, being stripped or whatever, he should have told
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her no. And if you had told her no, we're
not here. And That's the lesson I always try to
explain to young people. You don't get to decide how
people are going to enforce the rules or the law.
That is the common thread. And you can say, MO,
you're just being a moralist, You're just thinking, I'm just
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trying to make it real simple here. If you want
to protect young people, if you want to prepare young
people for the world, you have to tell them no.
And the easiest way for me to exploy that is
through sports, because I get to tell people know all
the time when I'm on that basketball court, when they
start doing things and saying things because they watch it
on TV in the NBA and they think that it's
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part of the game where you hassle a ref where
you point at them or you gesture to the crowd
and you try to somehow, you know, gain some sort
of advantage or disrespect the referee. Na son, I got
a whistle and also know the rules, and you're gonna
get a technical foul and you're gonna sit your ass down,
and if you say anything else, I want to throw
you out of the game. You don't have to like it.
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That's how life works. Do you ever deal with that
or how often have you ever dealt with that with parents? Oh?
Just about it? Every It depends. Actually, let's carry this
over to the next segment and I can better you
know what. And Stephan, let's change the bumper because Metro
can kiss my ass. They don't need any help for me. Okay,
we'll talk about them still on the time. This was
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more important, but so save that question because I definitely
want to adjust it. On the other side, it's lad
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Fortyf Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere the iHeartRadio App
and only on radio. No video simulcast tonight. It will
return tomorrow. We were having a conversation, or I was
ranting more explicitly about this high school track athlete who
was stripped of her title for this fire extinguisher celebration
where she had a fire extinguisher handed to her by
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her father. It was a prop it was planned in advance.
She won her one hundred meter sprint sizable margin was
going to go on to the finals. And then she
got this fire extinguisher and used it on her own shoes,
like her shoes were so hot they were on fire,
and she was stripped of her title and her opportunity
to move on to the next event. I was fine
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with it. I was making the argument that sometimes you
have to tell your kids no, don't necessarily participate in
the stunt. I read the CIF rules and how it's
up to the interpretation of the officials at the meet.
You can't break the rules and then decide what is
the acceptable punishment. And that's why I say you got
to tell your kids no, so the world doesn't get
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to levy the punishment. I use sports as a perfect
example because it's a somewhat safe environment to teach kids
about parameters and consequences to their choices in life.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Looking at this story and how the father played a
part in his daughter being disqualified, she didn't go and
get the fire stinger Sean her own. Her father wanted
this to be part of celebration. He wanted this as
much as she did. In your time officiating basketball games,
have you ever had any parents that you've had to
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deal with who have acted out above and beyond even
some of the actions of these reckless kids.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh yes, I remember I was doing a sixth grade
game at the torn Recreational Park is on like right
next to Wilson Park, and I had a parent come
out on the court who wanted to fight me. Now,
I was back in like my thirties. I was like
in the prime. I was like, I was ready for
this fool And I told him, I said, don't come
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out on this court. You don't want this. And the
only thing that stopped the fight from happening was at
the games they had towards police in the venue, and
the police came in and said, we live in a
time and that was a good twenty years ago. We
live in a time where parents feel so entitled to
say and do whatever they want, and kids also act
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out on that that behavior that leads to the tagging
the train and everything that permissiveness that you can draw
a line. There is a connective tissue and a thread
which runs through all this where kids learn this behavior
that there aren't consequences or they're allowed to do certain
things in certain environments. And there are people like me
in a sports context or in a martial arts context
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that they happened to be one of my classes. Will
have to remind him that that's not how it works.
And once you cross that line, you don't get to
decide what the punishment is. You don't get to call
me an m effort on the court and say that
I can't kick you out for example you do as
a parent. Don't get to come on the court and
then don't have to don't have any say when Torren's
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police steps in and not only removes you from the building,
but they can arrest you. I decided not to file charges,
but he didn't touch me, But I'm saying I could
have pursued it and kicked him out where he would
not have been allowed back in the facility at all,
because he presented himself as a threat. So, I mean,
you know, are there are too many examples I can
tell you of how kids usually do what the parents
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allow or either promote. And that goes right back to
the whole track and field discussion. She did that because
her father not only condoned it, but encouraged it. Yeah,
and participated and participated, and now she's upset about, well,
this isn't fair or the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
You abrogate, you forfeit your say so when you cross
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the line, and that's how life works. That's how it works.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I cannot stand the usage of the word fair, especially
among young people, until my daughter has tried to use
the word fair. I'm like fair is for fairy tales.
We live in the real world. You would not be
in trouble. You would not have been called out, would
have been called to the carpet by your teacher. If
you are doing what what you're you're supposed to be doing.
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You were obviously cutting up and if you were called
to carbet because of that, that's the result. You don't
get to act out and then when you get in
trouble for it, say well everyone else was, and think
that that you're okay with beat upset just because you're
the only one being singled out.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's not how it works. Hopefully, the lessons that I
try to impart in martial arts in the dojon on
the basketball court, and I used to do baseball as well,
but I just do basketball now translate so they see
the connection where if you overstep and work outside the
rules or boundaries, there are consequences, penalties, whatever you want
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to call them, and that applies to life. If you
want to go out there, my mom will call it
show in your ass. If you want to go out
there and show your ass and act up, then you're
gonna let the world deal with you and you're not
going to have any say. And it may result in
you losing your freedom, it may result in you losing
your job, it may result in you losing some sort
of money or income. That's why you got to teach
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the young that certain behavior is unacceptable. It doesn't have
to be illegal to be unacceptable, and you do it
for their greater good and growing up later on in life.
They're either going to learn those consequences and boundaries as
a child or they're going to learn as an adult.
The difference is if you learn that as an adult,
it's usually going to be much more an expensive lesson.
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Gay if I am sixty, it's later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. No video simulcast tonight.
Our video director Daniel has the night off, tending to
some family business, and I always say family first. So
Daniel and the video simulcast will be back tomorrow. But
we have plenty to cover, plenty of cover. I know
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you're upset no video simulcast. You get used to it.
You like to see my pretty face every single day.
Or maybe Mark's because Mark has a has a club,
like an only fans club. That's all I want to
describe it. Yeah, it's too bad because I'm looking really
good today. Yeah. Yeah, don't you have a birthday coming up?
No you don't know you sure, Let's move on, Okay.
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It honestly feels weird without the moment goos. Yeah, you
get used to it, like you get interacted with the time.
It's almost like we have to go back to boring,
stale every day radio. We just hear my voice. You
have to imagine what I look like. You have to
rely on the dulcet tones of my beautiful Soto voce. Yeah, anyhow,
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back to reality. We still have a wonderful and jam
packed show for you. There's some things we have to
talk about. You know that Kobe and Gigi mural which
was vandalized some time ago, Well they vandalized it again.
But I'm gonna talk about it from a very different
vantage point, and I'm going to connect it to this
other story about this high school track star who was
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stripped of her title for an inappropriate celebration. I believe
that those those two stories are connected. And here's a hint, Mark.
I know you remember, maybe about a year ago, people
were complaining about the LA District Attorney George Gascone, how
he was so permissive, he wasn't enforcing the laws. And
the argument was, because George Gascone wasn't enforcing laws, criminals
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figured this out and they were more inclined to engage
in criminal behavior because they felt that there were no consequences.
You remember that argument at least, right. I believe that
may have been in heavy rotation here at KFI. Yes
it was. I'm going to make the argument. I want
you to start thinking about this now that the George
Gascone argument and laws having to do with adults also
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applies to kids, young people and bad parenting. Yeah, you're
the don't spare the rod type. I can tell where
this is. You know this is going right, Okay, I'm
gonna make the connection badass kids turn into criminals. Okay,
So if you're mad about George Gascon, or you were
mad about George Gascon, I'm telling you right now there's
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going to be a healthy bit of criticism of parenting
leading up unto that point. They didn't just wake up
on a Saturday morning said well, hell, I'm going to
be a criminal because George Gascone's in office. No, no, no,
there is. There's a developmental process. There is a growth
process kind of make your way into criminality. Lack of
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consequences for children, lack of consequences for an adult kind
of the same thing. But we're getting that a little
bit later. And I have a really long and expansive,
extensive final thought, and I'm going to tell you right
now it has to do with this most recent revelation
that ICE agents will not have to ask for I
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should say, will not even have to provide warrants for
upcoming arrests. They have been told to effectuate more arrests
even without wants, even though that's in direct opposition to
the UH to the Constitution. So I got plenty to
talk about tonight. Plenty. It is unfortunate if you just
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tune in. No, we don't have the video simocast tonight.
I'm sad you're said, we're all set. I know that,
But we don't have the video simulcast tonight because Daniel,
our video technical director, is off doing personal stuff tonight
and I can't have him come in all the time
just on. You know, he has family to deal with.
I have family to deal with, you know how it is.
Family is first. But the video simulcast will be back
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tomorrow night. And I have an unfortunate feeling that you
and me and Mark Roner we're going to be more
agreeing than disagreeing tonight, and that was not my plan. Well,
that bores everyone, doesn't it? Not necessarily because I have
my pants on in this studio and you don't have
your pants on because we are not having a video simulcast,
and some people take advantage of that. Yeah, if nobody
can see, it's all theater of the mind tonight. No,
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but really, I mean, we have video screens and I
can tell that you're not wearing any pants. Unfortunately, well,
I did it for you. You're welcome so quote jd Vance.
Have you said thank you even once? You ungrateful bastard?
You seriously It's Later with Mo Kelly camp I AM
six forty. We're only live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app tonight,
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Speaker 1 (05:26):
KFI AMS six forties. Later with Mo Kelly Live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app, no video sybumcast tonight. It'll be
back tomorrow and once again, unfortunately, the Kobe and GG
Bryant Mural in downtown LA has been ventialized. The mural
If You Don't Know is located at thirteen sixty one
Main Street in La add It depicts Kobe with his
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daughter Gigi when she was a toddler. Artists slow underscore
Motions created the mural If You Didn't Know shortly after Kobe,
Gg and seven others died in that helicopter crash back
on January twenty sixth, twenty twenty. Hard to believe it's
more than five years ago. After restoring the piece of art,
you may know that Luca Danci to the Lakers, donated
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money to have it restored after was first vandalized. It
is now vanalyized once again. It doesn't surprise me, it
does sadden me. But it also reminds me of what
I've already believed and known, that we live at a
time in which there's just a dearth of respect. There
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is a complete lack of respect for anything and everyone.
I'm not condoning graffiti, but I'm old enough to remember
when graffiti tagging even had its own rules. You didn't
tag art, you didn't tag over art, you didn't deface art.
You didn't put your tag on someone's house or someone's
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private property. Now all bets are off me personally. I
don't have a data to confirm this. I can't show
you a study which will verify this, but I'm pretty
sure I'm right just from the eyeball test. This to me,
in a more general sense, is a product of kids
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who've grown up not ever being told no, not knowing boundaries,
not knowing consequences and so and oh and remember when
you probably saw the video to all of all those
youngsters who were tagging and defacing the Metro train maybe
a week or so ago. Yeah, of course, okay, And
I was looking at that, See, those are a bunch
of kids who didn't have their asses whoop when they
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were younger. And this goes back to my rant when
I was talking about I am firmly in support of
corporal punishment spanking, which is different from domestic violence, which
is different from child abuse. And I gave the argument
then it was about teaching young people. Me included boundaries
consequences so that the world didn't have to so you
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didn't end up in jail, so you weren't doing stuff
which was illegal that you would get you punished by
the world. We live at a time where parents don't
want to tell their kids no, like it's stunning their growth.
And then you have a lot of lot of loudmouthed
kids who talk back and what have you. And then
when they get old enough to start doing criminal things.
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That's why you'll see them run up on a train
and just deface it, oh for everyone to see, and
also do it on videos so they could commemorate it.
There is a connection and correlation. In fact, I would
even go so far as to say there's causal relationship
if you don't do this when they are a kid.
When they get to be an adolescent and young adult,
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it is too late, and then they start engaging in
this more egregious behavior and people under don't understand, like,
oh my gosh, how did this happen? Here comes by
George Gascne. Comparison George Gascone for all the people who
did not like him be included was that he was
not enforcing the laws as they were written, made it
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a much more permissive society, and criminals figured out, well,
if I do this, I'm not going to jail. And
if I do go to jail, I'll be out in
twenty four hours because of the laws are this, and
George Gascone is that. And we saw this rise in
crime because they figured out the criminals figured out there
were no consequences. Well, that also translates to how children
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are raised. The moment children realized that they could talk
back to their parents or talk back to their teacher
and there are no consequences. And Twila, I know you
know this as an administrator of a school, parents are
more quick to defend their kids and blame the teacher
than we were coming a law. If my teacher told
my parents that I was acting up. They would look
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at me and say, what did you do? Because an
adult is telling me that you are not acting as
you should or as you were taught, you must have
been doing something wrong. Now it's almost like we want
to make this that create this environment where kids aren't
responsible and accountable in any way. You know what happens.
Eventually they get older and still believe that they're not
accountable and they cannot be held responsible. There is a
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direct connection. I'm positive that there is. I can't quantify
it for you, but I damn sure can qualify it
for you. Don't tell me that the kids who were
defacing the Kobe and gg mural, and don't tell me
the people who were defacing that metro train in playing
view for everyone to see. Don't tell me that the
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kids are going to the street takeovers and then all
of a sudden they are eluding a seven to eleven
right across the street. Don't tell me that those kids
were taught consequences, parameters and boundaries when they were younger,
because as sure as I'm sitting here, if they were,
they wouldn't be doing that. They don't just wake up
one day after a stern, discipline filled upbringing and decide,
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you know what, I think I'm going to go out
and tag a metro train today. Because all the other
stuff that got my ass beat as a kid, you
know what, I don't think that applies anymore. I was
definitely afraid of my father, and that's why I didn't
do half the stuff that I did, because an ass
whoopman was waiting for me with my name on it.
I didn't want to go to jail. Why Why not?
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Because I was afraid of a record. I was afraid
of having to ask for my father to bail me
out or have to deal with him. These are all
things what you're connected And as much as we complained
about George Gascon, there is a connection here. There is
a correlation. After all these years of telling our kids, oh,
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you can do whatever you want, Tommy, you don't have
to worry about it. You know, of all these years
of rationalizing and having these discussions with kids and trying
to debate your own kid. My parents never debated with me.
They told me what to do and I either did
it or there were consequences. Because I was a child
and they were an adult. I didn't like it. I
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didn't even understand it. I didn't appreciate it then, but
it also kept me out of certain trouble. And if
you have kids now who have no respect for anything
or anyone, not personal property, not someone's business, not someone's house,
not someone's elders, no respect for nothing, and you wonder
why there is a path in which they traveled. They
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didn't just all of a sudden wake up one day
and say, I'm just gonna be an a hole, I'm
just gonna be a juvenile criminal. I'm just gonna do
what I want and talk back to adults because I
know there are no consequences. No, that started before then,
just before, it was back when they are five to six, seven, eight,
because by the time they get to be fifteen, it's
too late. It is way too late. And then you
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have these kids who don't understand and they want to
act like the world is so unfair. I don't understand it.
And when I talk about this high school athlete track
athlete who was penalized for an inappropriate celebration, I am
going to connect those dots as well, because kids grow
up not knowing where the line is, and as parents,
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our responsibility is what to tell them, teach them and
demonstrate to them where that line is, because if they
know where that line is, or if they try to
step over it as a child and get their ass
smacked like I did, then hopefully there's more of a
likelihood of a reference point when they get to be
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an adolescent of what not to do. I promise you,
if you're tagging trains and that kind of thing at fourteen,
you've been doing a lot of other hellish stuff prior
to fourteen and there were no consequences. How can you
turn on the TV and not realize, oh, that's my
son out there. You know, parents got to take responsibility.
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We want to talk about George gascon enforcing the laws
of the land, Well, you need to enforce the laws
of the household. Promise you, we would be better off
if more parents actually enforce the rules of the household,
as opposed to letting kids do whatever they want. Oh no, no,
they want to be their best friend. Oh yeah, I'll
just let them drink in the house. Oh yeah, that's
not I'd rather drink cares than out out there.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
If this is actually across the board, too, I want
to make sure that everyone is clear. You're not talking
to parents of any class stratus. No, No, this is
parents across the board, because I've seen parents of privilege
getting cussed out by their kids, and I have seen
parents within the impoverished realm have kids where they don't
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know where they are. If both the result in some
kids either running onto a train and tagging or going
over to the Kobe Murro and tagging.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
If you feel so comfortable enough to cuss out your
own parents, I'm quite sure you feel okay with disrespecting
someone's prompt. There is a logical progression. It didn't start
with the tagging of the train. It didn't start with
the street takeover which then turned into a looting of
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the seven to eleven. There is a progression. Yeah, you know,
work your way up to that. And if they're doing
that at fifteen, there were signs along the way at
seven eight, nineteen eleven, twelve thirty fifteen, I'm sure of ITTT.
I'm positive. Okay, Now I know that Mark Ronner and
not gonna use him as a foil because I love
to using the foil. He is a well adjusted individual.
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But I'm quite sure somewhere along the line, someone tried
to show him boundaries and maybe he fought against that.
I'm not sure how much I should really reveal on
the eric you can talk about. You could be general.
I got the living daylights kicked out of me when
I was a kid, but I'm not condoning that. But
I am saying there was a level of intervention to
keep you out of prison to some degree. Yeah, I saw.
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There are people who who are surprised to this day
that I didn't wind up there, but they're see and
look at you. You got your ass beat and you're
here on KFI. Yeah, yeah, boom. You could have been
in prison or dead, And is it fair to say
that you engaged in behavior along the way could have
led to either or both, To say the very least.
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That's all I'm saying. That is all I'm saying. I
know that there's a lot of stuff that I did
not do because the memory or the fear of the
in house consequences that if I did not have that
memory and fear to reel me back in, I most
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likely would still be in prison. I would be another statistic.
It may not have been tagging or graffiti, but it
would have been something criminal in the name of just
having fun and just being an irresponsible team. But I
didn't end up there because my parents told me no.
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KFI. It's mo Kelly. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio App.
No video simulcast tonight, just good old fashioned radio talk radio.
And I'm gonna connect this next story to the last
story because there is a thread which is woven through
all this, and it can be boiled down to simply,
we need to tell our kids no more often for
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their benefit and for our collective benefit as they get older.
I'm going to tell you about a high school track
star who was stripped of her title after celebrating her win.
And you may think, well, what's strong was celebrating a win? Well, time, place, circumstances,
it all matters. And her parent looking at the video
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was her dad? Her dad should have told her no
in advance. A Saint track champion has been stripped of
her title over what state officials call unsportsmanlike conduct.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Claara Adams says she was banned from the podium at
a potentially history making race for her victory celebration. Video
shows Adam's taking first place in the four hundred meter
final on Saturday in Clovis. The North Salinas High sophomore
says she waited until her opponents were off the track,
and then her dad handed her a fire extinguisher. She
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proceeded to spray her shoes, recreating an iconic moment from
two thousand and four when the track champion Maurice Green
did the same thing. But Adams says state officials immediately
stripped her of her win and banned her from compeding
in the two hundred meter race, which she was a
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favorite to win. The California Interscholastic Federation the CIF has
not publicly commented.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, I played CIF. Is it harsh the consequences? Yes,
it is harsh, but it doesn't mean that it was
unfair or outside the boundaries of the rules. Every CIF
athlete has to sign this waiver and says I have
read and understand the requirements of this Code of Conduct.
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I understand that I'm expected to perform according to this code,
and I understand that there may be sanctions or penalties
if I do not. And if you read it, they're
two specific components. One is under the respect portion disrespectful conduct.
Do not engage in disrespectful conduct of any sort, including profanity,
obscene gestures, offensive remarks of a sexual or racial nature,
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trash talking, taunting, bost full celebrations, or other actions that
demean individuals or the sport. Is that open to interpretation, yes,
but if you leave it open to interpretation, it may
not go your way. That's where parenting comes in. And
there's also responsibility of the athlete. That every single athlete,
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including this track athlete, had to sign role modeling. Remember,
participation in sports is a privilege, not a right, and
that I, the athlete, am expected to represent my school, coach,
and teammates with honor on and off the field, consistently
exhibit good character and conduct yourself as a positive role model.
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Suspension or termination of the participation privilege is within the
sole discretion of the school administration. Okay, if you leave
it up to interpretation and the thing that you may
do this borderline. You may think it's okay, but those
are looking may not, and those who have your future
athletic career in their hands may not. I'll give you
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a perfect example. I never got more hate as a
high school referee than when I gave Well, let me
tell you the whole story. I'm doing this game at
Miracosta High School and this is for summer league. So
people think it's all relaxed and everything. No, but I'm
a high school ref I'm there using high school rules.
We're gonna go by the high school rules. For example,
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if you dunk before a game during warm up, that's
an automatic technical. I don't care if you don't like
the rule, Okay, that's the truth. If you pull your
jersey over your face during the game, it's like, oh,
because you want to protest a caller, you're so mad,
you don't want to show your facial expression. Pull your
jersey over your face. That is an automatic technical by
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the national high school rules. It's not even subject to
debate or discretion. If you slam the basketball on the
court and you don't catch it and rises above your head,
that's an automatic technical. And twala, I bet you may
not know this either did you know that you can
give someone a technical even at the game is over
and time has expired? Wait game over? Mm other words,
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inspired time has expired, crowds going wild? Team thinks they've
won by two points.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yes, it's been called for the most part, and you
do something like some gyrating move on the basketball on
the ground.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'll take exactly what happened this player. I gave a
te at the beginning of the game for Dunky okay,
and I explained to him and his coach have been
backed me up. Those are the rules. You cannot do it.
I gave him a tea and then he wanted to
jaw jack mean. I can't remember the schools it was,
but I remember I was at Mira Coasta High for
the summer league and he kept jawjacking me during the game,
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trying to be smart. His team quote unquote won the game.
Time had expired, but according to the rules, until both officials,
me and my partner have left the court, and that
means like left the court is in left the gymnasier,
the game is still on after time expired. His team
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was winning by two points, and this is summerleague games.
I really don't give an f okay, he was jawjacking
me and he started using profanity and point at me.
I ring him up with the t blew the whistle,
brought both teams back on the court, shot two free
throws for the other team. Oh now it's the tie game.
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We're going into overtime, and the team lost the game
and parents were hot at me. But it's not my
fault that you as to participant either don't know the
rule or don't want to play within the rules and
then don't understand. Is my discretion as far as the
assessment and penalty a technical foul, is that the discretion
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of the official. As far as unsportsmanlike conduct, that's the
tie in when we're talking about sportsmanlike conduct and also
CIF rules, you don't get to decide what is acceptable
as the official. Now. I may not have done that
if it were an end season game, but for a
summer league game, you bet your ass. I wrung them
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up and dared them to say something else. Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Can can a team be banned from being part of
the CIF? Absolutely, they're just that flagrantly disrespectful of the rule.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I've had situations where, let's say you get a certain
point where the game is not in doubt, and you
have one team which is intentionally getting technical files. They're
just making a mockery of the game. You can call
the game right there forfeit. Yeah you can't. You can
toss the players, You can toss the coach for not
controlling the players, and then you can just in the
game and have them forfeit making a mockery of the game. Yeah,
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that is within the power of the officials. And the
only reason I talk about that is this was a
pre planned celebration provided she won the track event. And
it was because what they don't tell you is the
father brought the fire extinguisher to the event. It brought
a small fire extinguisher and you know, and gave it
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to his daughter so she could use the fire extinguisher
on her shoes, like her shoes are on fire and
that kind of thing. And she ended up being stripped
of her title. And I don't have any sympathy because
instead of encouraging that boastful celebration, which is grounds for
penalty suspension, being stripped or whatever, he should have told
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her no. And if you had told her no, we're
not here. And That's the lesson I always try to
explain to young people. You don't get to decide how
people are going to enforce the rules or the law.
That is the common thread. And you can say, MO,
you're just being a moralist, You're just thinking, I'm just
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trying to make it real simple here. If you want
to protect young people, if you want to prepare young
people for the world, you have to tell them no.
And the easiest way for me to exploy that is
through sports, because I get to tell people know all
the time when I'm on that basketball court, when they
start doing things and saying things because they watch it
on TV in the NBA and they think that it's
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part of the game where you hassle a ref where
you point at them or you gesture to the crowd
and you try to somehow, you know, gain some sort
of advantage or disrespect the referee. Na son, I got
a whistle and also know the rules, and you're gonna
get a technical foul and you're gonna sit your ass down,
and if you say anything else, I want to throw
you out of the game. You don't have to like it.
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That's how life works. Do you ever deal with that
or how often have you ever dealt with that with parents? Oh?
Just about it? Every It depends. Actually, let's carry this
over to the next segment and I can better you
know what. And Stephan, let's change the bumper because Metro
can kiss my ass. They don't need any help for me. Okay,
we'll talk about them still on the time. This was
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more important, but so save that question because I definitely
want to adjust it. On the other side, it's lad
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return tomorrow. We were having a conversation, or I was
ranting more explicitly about this high school track athlete who
was stripped of her title for this fire extinguisher celebration
where she had a fire extinguisher handed to her by
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her father. It was a prop it was planned in advance.
She won her one hundred meter sprint sizable margin was
going to go on to the finals. And then she
got this fire extinguisher and used it on her own shoes,
like her shoes were so hot they were on fire,
and she was stripped of her title and her opportunity
to move on to the next event. I was fine
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with it. I was making the argument that sometimes you
have to tell your kids no, don't necessarily participate in
the stunt. I read the CIF rules and how it's
up to the interpretation of the officials at the meet.
You can't break the rules and then decide what is
the acceptable punishment. And that's why I say you got
to tell your kids no, so the world doesn't get
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to levy the punishment. I use sports as a perfect
example because it's a somewhat safe environment to teach kids
about parameters and consequences to their choices in life.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Looking at this story and how the father played a
part in his daughter being disqualified, she didn't go and
get the fire stinger Sean her own. Her father wanted
this to be part of celebration. He wanted this as
much as she did. In your time officiating basketball games,
have you ever had any parents that you've had to
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deal with who have acted out above and beyond even
some of the actions of these reckless kids.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh yes, I remember I was doing a sixth grade
game at the torn Recreational Park is on like right
next to Wilson Park, and I had a parent come
out on the court who wanted to fight me. Now,
I was back in like my thirties. I was like
in the prime. I was like, I was ready for
this fool And I told him, I said, don't come
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out on this court. You don't want this. And the
only thing that stopped the fight from happening was at
the games they had towards police in the venue, and
the police came in and said, we live in a
time and that was a good twenty years ago. We
live in a time where parents feel so entitled to
say and do whatever they want, and kids also act
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out on that that behavior that leads to the tagging
the train and everything that permissiveness that you can draw
a line. There is a connective tissue and a thread
which runs through all this where kids learn this behavior
that there aren't consequences or they're allowed to do certain
things in certain environments. And there are people like me
in a sports context or in a martial arts context
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that they happened to be one of my classes. Will
have to remind him that that's not how it works.
And once you cross that line, you don't get to
decide what the punishment is. You don't get to call
me an m effort on the court and say that
I can't kick you out for example you do as
a parent. Don't get to come on the court and
then don't have to don't have any say when Torren's
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police steps in and not only removes you from the building,
but they can arrest you. I decided not to file charges,
but he didn't touch me, But I'm saying I could
have pursued it and kicked him out where he would
not have been allowed back in the facility at all,
because he presented himself as a threat. So, I mean,
you know, are there are too many examples I can
tell you of how kids usually do what the parents
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allow or either promote. And that goes right back to
the whole track and field discussion. She did that because
her father not only condoned it, but encouraged it. Yeah,
and participated and participated, and now she's upset about, well,
this isn't fair or the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
You abrogate, you forfeit your say so when you cross
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the line, and that's how life works. That's how it works.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I cannot stand the usage of the word fair, especially
among young people, until my daughter has tried to use
the word fair. I'm like fair is for fairy tales.
We live in the real world. You would not be
in trouble. You would not have been called out, would
have been called to the carpet by your teacher. If
you are doing what what you're you're supposed to be doing.
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You were obviously cutting up and if you were called
to carbet because of that, that's the result. You don't
get to act out and then when you get in
trouble for it, say well everyone else was, and think
that that you're okay with beat upset just because you're
the only one being singled out.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's not how it works. Hopefully, the lessons that I
try to impart in martial arts in the dojon on
the basketball court, and I used to do baseball as well,
but I just do basketball now translate so they see
the connection where if you overstep and work outside the
rules or boundaries, there are consequences, penalties, whatever you want
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to call them, and that applies to life. If you
want to go out there, my mom will call it
show in your ass. If you want to go out
there and show your ass and act up, then you're
gonna let the world deal with you and you're not
going to have any say. And it may result in
you losing your freedom, it may result in you losing
your job, it may result in you losing some sort
of money or income. That's why you got to teach
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the young that certain behavior is unacceptable. It doesn't have
to be illegal to be unacceptable, and you do it
for their greater good and growing up later on in life.
They're either going to learn those consequences and boundaries as
a child or they're going to learn as an adult.
The difference is if you learn that as an adult,
it's usually going to be much more an expensive lesson.
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