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May 15, 2025 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – In-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from a video about a young woman arriving late at night to an Airbnb in Portugal and being greeted with an unexpected act of kindness has gone viral on TikTok, to the dangerous "Chromebook challenge" going viral on TikTok and MORE…PLUS – A look at Waymo’s recall of more than 1,200 self-driving robotaxis due to a “software defect” AND ‘Final Thoughts’ on the permanent ban being lifted from Pete Rose’s MLB record - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now Kelly Show.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Social Media, Facebook gets to x Ticktalk, Viral Load, Viral Load,
the Viral.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Load Barlo with Timnay, Later with mo Kelly Live on YouTube, iHeartRadio,
app and Instagram right now. So if you want to
see the show and also see Tiffany Hobbs and the
viral Load, here we go.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
And I'm back. Thank you everyone for checking on me
last week. I really appreciate it. I was checking in
with the YouTube chat mo and they were your your
listeners were just so kind to me and wondering where
I was. Well, everybody, thank you for that. And I
am back with this week's viral loads. So let's get
into it. The very first story comes courtesy of Disney World,

(01:08):
a place that is often talked about here on The
mo Kelly Show. And in this case, there's a father
who has gone viral on TikTok to the tune of
millions of views and hundreds of thousands of comments. His
name is Craig Stole, and he went viral is going
viral currently because he has a family of five, including himself,

(01:30):
and he outlined what he spent at Disney World for
a single day visit.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I wanted to do. Yeah, I'm gonna do a little
round robin.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
So five people, five tickets, food, everything else. Moe, what
do you think Craig Stole spent?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
He spent at least seven hundred and fifty on the tickets.
He spent another two hundred and fifty on foods. I
want to say, eleven hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Eleven hundred dollars going once, going twice food? What do
you think this father spent on? And you can comment
in the chat? Please feel free to take a guest.
What do you think this father of four or three
rather and his wife spent on those five day, five
single pass tickets to Disney World?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
The total right, with food and everything everything. You haven't
seen the story, right, No?

Speaker 5 (02:19):
No, I haven't seen it. Okay, I'd say fourteen hundred. Okay,
Mark Ronner, It's got to be more than that. It's
got to be something outrageous, because it's already outrageous. Let's
go with time use deductive reasoning, deductive inductive whatever, it's reductive.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah, let's go with twenty five hundred. Okay. In fact,
bump it up to three grand.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Three grand would be quite generous. The closest one, actually
right on the nose, is Foosh. Craig Stole spent fourteen
hundred dollars on five tickets, five meals, parking, and just
any little add ons here. But those are basically the necessities.
And I don't know how you get theos one day
a single day pass. And the reason that Craig Stole

(03:07):
is going viral was because this is a human interest story.
People are getting ready for the summer season for their
vacations and Disneyland, disney World, those are prime places. And
so Craig, let everyone know, you know, we spent all
this money, fourteen hundred dollars, and I don't think it
was worth it. Is what Craig Stole is saying. He
says the food mediocre at best, the lines long, the

(03:32):
crowds huge. He says, they waited all day just to
be able to get on a handful of rides.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
Well, they don't have any lightning passes.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Or anything else.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
He said.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
If they had bought the lightning passes, they would have
been down an additional four hundred dollars. So now we're
talking eighteen hundred dollars minimum for a single day for
his family at Disney World. And this coincides with the
fact that Disney World and Disneyland the company are both
saying that they are going to raise prices in twenty

(04:02):
twenty six.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Isn't it fair to assume they're gonna raise prices every
single year regardless?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I think at this point it's just a formality to
announce it. But they do it with or without our consent.
So Craig Stole not happy with disney World, and millions
of people are chiming in to say the same. Our
next story still stays with the theme of vacationing. Maybe
you vacationed before, maybe you've gone to Portchugau. I haven't,

(04:30):
but if you have gone to Portugal or any other place.
Of course, there are different ways that you can find accommodations,
AIRB and B being one of the more popular things
that you can use to find lodging. Well, there's a
clip that's gone viral on TikTok. It's from a content
creator out of Canada named Anne Matthew. She goes by

(04:51):
Brown Girl thriving and she captured the moment her AIRB
and B host began cooking her a warm meal just
after she checked in at midnight.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Wait wait, wait, wait, I don't eat it just anybody's house.
I need to know.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
And this may be a cultural thing, but I was raised.
You just don't eat in everyone's house. Yeah, I don't
know you like that dog.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
And Anne Matthew twenty four years old. So she's ambitious
and adventurous, twenty year old. She said that she wanted
to go to Portugal. She's always wanted to go, and
she booked this Airbnb because the family that is the
hosting family for the accommodations for this home said that
they were very friendly, and they said that they did
enjoy cooking for their guests, however, and did not expect

(05:45):
to be greeted by the family after midnight.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
True, and then with a home cooked meal that she
was then obligated to enjoy after midnight after checking in. Now,
Airbnb is offring these add on experiences through their website.
This was not one of them. This was the courtesy
of the homeowners to do this for Anne Matthew. But

(06:09):
if you are interested in having cook's massage and involving
yourselves in massages. I guess you can say having petticures, manicures,
any sort.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Of add on somebody's house.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
At someone's house, you can go through airbnb dot com
find their new services option.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
Hells no.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
When we come back, we'll get into the newest TikTok challenge.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Here's a hint, hide your Chromebook.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It's Later with mo Kelly. Okay, if I am six
forty YouTube, Instagram live.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
YouTube, don't I'm not eating someone's food at Airbnb after midnight.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
That's weird. That's really really weird. I don't like it.
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Crime. Yeah, it's like you're gonna kidnap me or something.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yeah, why are you fixing me food and then expecting
you to eat it?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Watching you?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I tell you that's a cultural choice. It's a cultural difference.
It must be something in Portugal because I was just
raised like you just don't eat in anyone's house like that.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 8 (07:30):
Now it's sun My Room, Love with Tiffany Live on
can I with mo Oky.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
She'll talk about the.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Time on social media.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
Lone with Tiffany Hubbs.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Cam I Am six forty, YouTube and Instagram. We're live everywhere.
Now to part two of the Viral Lobe with Tiffany Hobbs.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Okay, if you have a chrome Book, hide it.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Hide it right now, leave this segment and hide it,
especially and really honestly, only if you have teenagers in
your household. Wala hide your Chrome Book. And here's why.
The newest TikTok challenge does not involve ingesting tide pods
or dumping buckets of water over your your friend's heads. No,

(08:25):
this one might even be stupider because it's more costly.
And what's happening is teenagers around the country have taken
to TikTok to involve themselves in something called the Chrome
Book challenge, where they jam small objects like paper clips,

(08:47):
small pencils, anything sharp into the USB port of the
Chrome book of the laptop, which then causes the laptop
to short so and in some cases catch fire.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
How is this a challenge? What is the upside of this?
What's the point of this?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
What do you win?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
What do you get if you turn your own laptop
into an incendiary device?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's exactly what you get.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
You get the satisfaction of blowing up or getting your
laptop to light up so that you can then record
it and post it online, as these teenagers are doing
on TikTok the laptop.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
That they didn't buy, which may also be a school laptop.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Correct, And that's what's happening.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
This is mainly taking place on school campuses. Just today
we found out that Long Beach is the newest city
dealing with this challenge yet or as of now, I'd
mostly seen these stories coming out of the Midwest and
the East Coast, not to say they weren't happening here
in southern California, but they hadn't yet made the news,
and as of today even reported right here on KFI,

(09:57):
a thirteen year old girl in Long Beach was a
rested because she took part in the Chrome Book challenge
and she's now being accused of arson after she caused
her laptop to catch fire.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
So this is a new wave.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
It's sweeping the country unfortunately, because kids are seeing what
they can do, how far they can go, and in
many cases they are in fact causing their laptops to
catch fire and then activating the sprinkler systems in their classrooms.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I don't have anything to say it's dumb.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
It is.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
At least usually with some of the other TikTok challenges,
I can intellectually understand. You get some sort of social
media status, you can get some likes or something.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
I don't know who would want to see this.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Kids, kids, And a lot of it's fear of missing
out as well, So they see kids doing it online
and then they want to try it. And the thing
that's even further harmful about this or further concerning, is
that there are fire marshals cautioning everyone to not do this,
because they say that if the battery is involved, then

(11:11):
corrosive air chemicals such as acids and other things that
are irritants to people can be released into the air,
and when people breathe these ritants in, they can cause
a lot of irreparable damage to themselves, or at least
damage in the short time.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, we don't need to worry about the meteor or
the asteroid hitting us. We're we're gonna off ourselves. We're
not gonna make it to the twenty second century.

Speaker 9 (11:35):
We're not.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
There's no way, Steph, I know I skipped the audio
on that story because I really want to get to
this audio in the final story for the sake of time.
So this last story, our final story of tonight's viral load,
involves the Pope. And of course we have a new pope,
Pope Leo. He went through conclave, the cardinals chose Pope Leo.

(11:57):
There's been all this pomp and circumstance and the world
is celebrating and who else is celebrating? News anchors because
this is one of the biggest stories of the year,
and one newsache anchor in particular, his name is Tony
de Koople from CBS, went on air to try to

(12:17):
explain what was going on in a clip that has
now gone viral.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
So they sit the whole time, they don't stand up,
and most of them.

Speaker 10 (12:25):
Will tell you know, most of them will tell you
that while that's going on, they're sitting reading their breath
ay that's a book of prayers that clergy have, or
praying a Rosary, or doing the one thing we know
that they're not doing is checking Instagram because their.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Devices a whole I believe the kids. I believe the
kids call it raw dogging. It if you're going to
go through a long period of time with no electronic device.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
He said raw dogging on air, and raw dogging is
a slang term for what mode.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, it has a number of different meanings, the popular,
depending on the generation.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Spare me the politics. What's the meaning of raw dogging?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
When I was a young lad, when I was coming along,
it was a colloquialism for having unprotected sex.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Tony Dkoople used the term raw dogging to explain how
the conclave itself functioned, saying that the cardinals had no
technology and that they were without access to social media.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Then he called it that colloquialism.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, but I've heard it use it other context because
young people, they would be flying these transcontinental flights, and
they said, if you don't use your devices, if you
don't have a book to read, and you're just sitting
in your chair and dealing with the flight and your
thoughts on your own head, they called that raw dogging.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
I didn't agree with that terminology.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I think it had already been claimed and you cannot
reassociate or rename certain things.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Raw dogging was raw dogging.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
We did that as a viral load did that. And
you love saying the word raw dogging. But here's the
thing what No one has used it for the.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Pope mo Kelly.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
No, there is some irony that you're using a term
which could have a sexual connotation in regard to someone
who's taken a vow of celibacy.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
This just gets even just it's just that we need
to let this one go. You brought it out. I
wasn't holding on, no pun intended. Let it go. The
load lady, The load Lady is out.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You can follow me at on Instagram at tip Hob's
on here and every Saturday on Saturday, it's with Tiffany
right here on KFI from five to seven pm.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
And I'm filling in the Sunday from two to four.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I'm all over, Hey, why didn't Tiffany get a rim shot?

Speaker 9 (14:54):
No?

Speaker 6 (14:54):
No, I didn't think you have to do it.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Now I'm saying, why didn't she has not the staph?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
He's not listening to said let it go.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
It's brought it up, put it down, And I said, oh,
and you didn't even acknowledge that.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
We're gonna we're gonna take that rimshot away from you
right one more gain.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
He's raw dogging the board right now. He's not connected
to it as much.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
But I'm trying to hold on to the word.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
When we come back, we have a way more update
and once we're all we're gonna put this debate to rest.
I am right to Wallace, wrong Waymo's not to be trusted.
It is a menace and we're all gonna die the
long of those cars are on the street.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
kf I am sixty.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
Mister Mokelly, he woman's autonomous vehicles might be on the ball,
moping too, all the coms on cleaner tone under control.

(16:14):
This is mo Kelly is wrong with more thinks he's
on the payroll because.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Wamo be.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
You openmo be.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Ron overgrnwo be.

Speaker 10 (16:39):
Lost.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's played with o' kelly live on YouTube, the iHeartRadio
app and Instagram and WAIMO is recalling more than twelve
hundred vehicles due to a software defect. Let me put
that in air quotes. Software defect. That sounds like a
hardware defect. You're telling me that you can't upload or
update the software remotely. You have an autonomous vehicle, but

(17:05):
you have to bring the car into update the software.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
You know why they did that. You know why. You
don't know why. I want to tell you why.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Because a series of crashes with gates, chains and other
obstacles in the road.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
In other words, these vehicles.

Speaker 11 (17:21):
Are wait wait wait wait wait wait, what type of
reading are you doing?

Speaker 6 (17:25):
That's what I said.

Speaker 11 (17:26):
That's what Minor crashes with gates, chains and other obstacles
in the road that did not result in any injuries.
Why why Because you're resulting because you're lay I want
you to make sure you're factual in the reporting. I
don't want you to skip over major details like that.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Okay, if I get in a car accident like I
was recently rear ended, just because I got in a
car accident and I wasn't injured, it doesn't make it
less of a car accident.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Well, Motuola's whipping out the did they die or again?

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Right, But but it goes on.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Recall applies to twelve hundred and twelve driver less vehicles
operating on Waymo's fifth generation automated driving software.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
There have been these crashes.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Minor or not that you TWALA have not informed us
on them.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I am letting you know about them now. That's why
I brought that in the.

Speaker 11 (18:20):
Fullness of making sure that we are reporting everything.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
They brought this story.

Speaker 11 (18:25):
To the table because I don't want there to be
any Why did you hide that story?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Why did you bury that story? Were burying all the.

Speaker 11 (18:33):
All of these things they're not getting These things were minor.
These are things that were happening between cars and objects,
not cars that had people in them. Waymo was detecting these. Weymo,
the company was detecting these and brought these cars in.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
And and and if a car gets to an accident
with a wall, they call like a one car collision.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
It's still a collision though, right.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, now they're gonna have wayno cars off the road now.
Oh no, no, no, actually, actually you'd be wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Hah.

Speaker 11 (19:00):
Take that juke back because the cars are actually back
on the road. Waybo released the software updated to resolve
the issue the issue at hand, and the update has
already been rolled out in all affected vehicles. The recall
notice has said the company operates more than one hundred
or one thousand, five hundred, only only twelve hundred and twelve

(19:21):
were recalled. Only twelve hundred twelve point of twelve hundred
twelve recall. They have more than fifteen hundred on the road.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
The NHTSA has opened an investigation into Waymo dating back
to May twenty twenty four, after receiving reports of twenty
two incidents involving this fifth generation software. The agency said
that several incidents under investigation quote involved collisions with clearly
visible objects that a competent.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Driver would be expekay ooh boy, thank you very syne.

Speaker 11 (19:52):
Look you put your headphones back on because you are
walking away.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
With your butt on your shoulders.

Speaker 11 (19:57):
And drivers, real drivers are work Look, real drivers are
worse than this. Real drivers are worse than this because
you know what, because you know what, Mo to your corner. Away,
MOD did not run into you. Good search justice Away.
MO did not run into Mo Kelly. You know you
know who ran into Mo Kelly. A person, A person

(20:18):
ran into Mo Kelly.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
What in no way Mo?

Speaker 11 (20:20):
We we actually, while we were out going to brunch
now long ago, we saw plenty of Waymo's rolling around
Moe's neck and the woods.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
And you know what, and you know what, not only
not only.

Speaker 11 (20:31):
Has this recall not affected any vehicles currently on the road,
And I love how you missed that the recall does
not affect any vehicles currently on the road, but our
very own Tiffany Hobbs, who wants to sit here quiet
as a church mouse, quiet as a church mouse, was
in a way more for Mother's Day. She actually took
her mother and her aunt on a.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Tiffany Hunt, I think that one of the cars that
we were in should have been one of the cars
that was recalled because it dropped us off in the
middle of a parking lot and demanded it that demanded
that we get out in traffic and did not move
as multiple lot both it's traffic a very busy parking
lot in which another.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Barely did.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
It was way more annoying than we needed it to be,
way more inconvenience, so I would not And I was
saying this off air. Yes, we did it for mothers.
Say it was an experiment. We wanted to do some
journalistic and you know, investigation for you Twala.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
I appreciate it, and we did it on city streets.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I would never take away Mo on anything other than
a short trip.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It was extremely.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Expensive and it did not feel entirely safe because it
constantly let us out in areas when we got out
a couple of times in areas that were high traffic areas,
and it stopped. It just stopped itself where people were honking.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Why did you get out? Get out multiple times? Way
most racist? Yes?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Why because Ulip, you know, and I felt that honestly.
It took us to places we had no business going.
It wasn't mean place we had no business going. How
did you do that?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
You're in control of the drive.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
No, you're not.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
It was three miles and it costs upward of twenty
dollars three months, three.

Speaker 11 (22:24):
Moles, three three miles one way, you choose the destination.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yes, it also changed lanes in an intersection, It did
not read a fork in the road and almost took
us into a center divider.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
And there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
There's stickers everywhere saying do not touch the wheel by
any means.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yes, you will be electric.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
You'll be shot on site.

Speaker 11 (22:48):
On site team will come and get you.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
It's way more violent than I had, you know, wanted
to do on Mother's Day.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Okay, you and your mother were crash helmets. No you
know what? Uh? No, this is lies and garbage.

Speaker 11 (23:03):
Her beautiful mother and her beautiful were enjoying the trip
the entire time. They know the entire time Tiffany has
spent vlogging on.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Instagram journalism because I want to hear about your journalists
and I wanted to do something.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
The two of you is in Waymo's pockets, so never
I'm inclined to believe Tiffany over you. Oh whatever, you
have not been in and I'm still alive, Thank you
very much.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Is way Moo constructing a Towala tower someplace.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
Twelve?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
You care to answer that? Did they gift you with
the four hundred million dollar jet?

Speaker 11 (23:43):
Yes, that is not something way Mo does. Waymo does
not practice that type of bribery.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Did they offer to open a hotel in your name
or something? No? No, you know and you know what
you know.

Speaker 11 (23:59):
I didn't pay for Tivity to take this trip. She
did it on her own because she wanted to see.
But you know what Tiffany is right now, she's right here,
She's here. She's a lie, a lie, barely barely break.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
We gotta go to break.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
We gotta check in also with George Norri of Coast
to Coast AM when we come back. And I have
my final thought and it's going to be on Pete Rose.
In the recent news surrounding him. It's Later with mo Kelly,
Live on Instagram, Live on YouTube, live on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's Later with mo Kelly Live on YouTube, the iHeartRadio
app and still live on Instagram. Come up in just
a few moments, will be Coast to Coast AM with
my friend George Nori, who joins us now with a preview.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
How are you, George, Great, mister Kelly, You've got a
classic Coast to Coast show tonight. We're gonna talk about
the Giza Pyramids and what might be underneath them. And
then later on we're going time traveling on the Coast
to Coaste.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Oh I need them hurry up and.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Time travel in this timeline so I can go back
and make some things right in my life.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
If you went back, where would you go?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'd probably go back to the mid nineteen eighties. Buy
some applestock, try to meet up with some of the
founders of Google, be an early investor, stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Maybe tell off an old girlfriend. Things on that.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Nature good idea related soon.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
You might have heard by now Pete Rose, the late
great air quotes. Pete Rose maybe on his way to
the Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame because of a
recent announcement which removed him from the permanently ineligible list.
Here's some facts. Pete Rose is still Major League Baseball's
all time hits leader. Nobody has more hits than him. Nobody,

(25:51):
nobody is anywhere close. His on field resume is Hall
of Fame worthy. It's undeniable. Here's some other facts. Pete
Rose bet on baseball. Pete Rose bet on his own
team while manager of the Cincinnati Reds. After fifteen years
of public denial, Rose finally admitted to both back in

(26:11):
two thousand and four. That's not subject to debate. Here's
Rule twenty one of Major League Baseball. It is as
follows quote. Any player, umpire, or club or league official,
or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any
baseball game in connection with which the better has a

(26:34):
duty to perform, shall be declared permanently ineligible. Remember that's player, umpire, club,
league official, or employee, and permanently ineligible is not to
be confused with for life. Permanently means forever. It's not
the same shoe was Joe Jackson and other members of

(26:55):
the nineteen nineteen Chicago White Sox were permanently ineligible for
Hall of Fame consideration for fixing the World Series, which
is betting by another name. The team has subsequently been
called the Black Sox for the black mark it placed
on the sport. That's really important. The rule against betting

(27:17):
on baseball in any form by any player, ump, or
personnel member was inarguable, inarguable, and sacro sanct Note. I
didn't say fan. Don't conflate the two just because you
can bet because of fan duel or what have you.
That's fan stuff, not people connected to the game. Earlier

(27:37):
this week, Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred made the decision to
remove not only Pete Rose, but even shoeless Joe Jackson
of the Chicago Black Socks from the permanently ineligible list.
It doesn't automatically mean either or both will be elected
to the Hall, but more likely than not they will
get in the point of my final thought tonight is this,

(28:00):
This was a horrible, horrible, horrible decision. It doesn't take
into account the larger implications. It says that all bets
are off punintended. It says there is no longer any
red line Tacitly, it's been made clear that there is
no death penalty for betting on baseball or fixing games.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Do you hear me? You can still end up in
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
The Major League Baseball Hall of Fame has never been
a repository for the moralists. There are plenty of objectively
and undeniably horrible people in the Hall of Fame presently,
but the individual moral failings of the individual cannot and
do not call into question the integrity of the game.

(28:52):
It can't bring down the totality of the sport. The
reason why people like a rod Mark Maguire, Barry Bonds,
Roger Clement, Sammy Sosa, and others are not in the
Hall of Fame is due to allege and or confirm
use of performance enhancing substances integrity of the game. Whereas
there was no official rule banning players from the Hall

(29:13):
of Fame for ped use, those aforementioned players haven't gotten close. Nonetheless,
even though they're on field accomplishments normally would merit inclusion.
But back to Rose, it's now open season another pun intended.
There is literally nothing to discourage anyone from betting on
baseball big picture, and that's a big problem, not casting aspersions.

(29:35):
But let's say a player like say Show Aotani, you know,
just picking a random blayer. Show Haotani has a Hall
of Fame resume right now, even if he retired to day,
he's probably in. And let's say, somewhere down the line, hypothetically,
speaking of course, we find out that he was fixing games,

(29:56):
throwing games, or betting on baseball as a player, he
would never do that.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
This is all hypothetical.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He would not be able to turn around and say, well,
you can't put him in the Hall of Fame because
in theory, you would have let Pete Rose in, you
would have let shoeless Joe Jackson in. And rule twenty
one is no longer sacroo sainct. There's no cudgel to
hold over players' heads. There is no backstop, another pun

(30:23):
there's no backstop to protect the sport from the actions
of these individuals, no proverbial sort of damoclets. That's for
Mark Ronner to hold over any player today or in
the future, because you've made the risk worth the reward,
especially for players or player personnel. Here's why, and this
is something that you probably haven't heard on any other

(30:45):
show or any other discussion about this. Did you know
it's not illegal. It's not illegal for players to bet
on themselves in their own sports.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
It is not inherently illegal.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Usually how players went about it was illegal because they
were using illegal beings or bookies in which.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
But in and of itself, it's not illegal. It's not
breaking the law. Professional sports across the board forbid it
and threatened to ban players for it, but it's not
specifically against the wall the law. Don't confuse disallowed with illegal.
They're not the same. And I'm coming home. Major League Baseball,
by removing the deterrent of making someone permanently ineligible, you've

(31:30):
now created the permanent possibility that a player or many players,
will risk the integrity of the sport to make some
money on the side. It's the worst kind of bet
that any sports commissioner can make. History will not be
kind to Major League Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred, nor should
it be, because there is no reason for any player

(31:55):
now and going forward not to consider betting on their
own sport, betting on themselves, because at the end of
it all, the worst thing that could happen is they
would only be suspended and nothing more.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
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the mess until it makes sense.

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