August 14, 2025 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – In-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from a social media influencer that took down a nurse on a recent flight, to an elementary school math question that’s gone viral leaving everyone scratching their heads…PLUS – Thoughts on the viral story regarding an American Airlines’ passenger caught vaping and his claims that his “privacy and dignity were violated” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
kf I am six forty's social media Facebook gets viral
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viral load. Viral load, the viral load, Lady.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
K if I am six forty. It is the viral load.
Now on Later with Mo Kelly, Tiffany Hops, take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I actually visited the foosh today our our wonderful Stephan
and I was talking to him about this week's viral load,
and I told him, I'll have stories that will stump you,
stories that will trick you, a story that might extend
your life, and a story that will show that social
media can provide the environment for you to ruin your
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own if you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And that's how we're going to begin.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Our first story has to do with a social media
influencer who effectively took down a nurse on a recent flight.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What do I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Nothing physical here in this story, but an exchange of
words and a very harsh and understandable consequence. There was
a recent delta flight, and this flight was going from
London's Heathrow Airport to JFK About what would you say,
mo about a six hour seven hour or so flight
we're about about two hours into the flight. Many of
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us joined a conversation that prior to this we were
unbeknownst about. So what happens is, I'm perusing threads, which
is Instagram's answer to x slash Twitter, and I'm watching
a story unfold. And what happened is there's a social
media influencer who's on this flight from Heathrow to JFK.
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The social media influencer's name is Tanika A. B. Tanika AB,
and what she does is she chronicles an exchange between
another passenger and a flight attendant. Now let me set
the scene for you. The flight attendant black woman, passenger
white woman, and Tanika AB black woman.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Diverse plane.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
But this distinction is important because what Tanika chronicled is
that the flight attendant asked the passenger to put a
seat belt around her toddler son as there was turbulence
or whatever it might have been. The passenger said whatever,
she said no, some sort of disagreement. She was asked
again by the flight attendant to strap her kid down,
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to which the passenger responded by calling the flight attendant
the inWORD and the B word. When the flight attendant said,
excuse me. The passenger doubled down, calling her again the
in word and the B word. Now, Tanika Ab, on
this flight social media influencer she is, decides to post
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about the exchange that's where all of us were brought in.
She uploaded her commentary and over the next few hours,
she detailed everything that she saw, including other passengers rallying
around the flight attendant to comfort her because it was
said that she was in a lot of distress, that
she was crying. She was very hurt and shocked by
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the exchange with the passenger who was still sitting in
her seat with her child and her husband at the time. Now,
Tanika continues to chronicle, and she also says that she's
going to contact Delta, So she begins directly messaging and
including Delta in her commentary. So that's going to get
the attention, of course of someone from Delta. Because people
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started to repost and reshare what Tanika Ab was saying.
That's what ended up going viral. Over the next couple
of hours. The internet seemingly banned together to not only
find out the passenger's name, and you might be saying,
how could they do that, Well, Tanika Ab said, hey,
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we're on the flight number blankety blankety blank. We're going
into JFK. People who are very savvy were able to
track the flight, find the manifest and find the passenger's
seat because Tanika Ab said, the passengers in x y
z seat. They found the passenger's name, pulled it up.
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Her name is now trending. Her name is Dana Genaire
and she's tracked cannot They found her. They found that
she's a nurse. Here Garry gannew interesting. They found that
she's a nurse. They found her nurse license, warded her
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to the nursing board of the state in which she
practices in found her husband's information. And because of all
the attention did her husband have to do with this?
He was just, you know, she caught some stray. It's
collateral damage because of all of this. Delta, according to
Tanika Ab, who was still giving the play by play,
met the plane at the gate at JFK and unloaded
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offloaded Dana Gennaire to the tune of forty five thousand
dollars fine and some sort of maybe temporary imprisonment there
but a forty five thousand dollars fine, the potential that
she may face being now entered onto the no fly list,
and the further ramifications that her nursing license will likely
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be either suspended or somehow put in jeopardy. So the
Internet came together and took down a racist with the
help of a social media influencer's post.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I would never recommend violence. I would never do that.
That's not who I am. I am going to say
that because of the Internet and social media. When you
get out of pocket like that, sometimes people will take
matters into their own hands, and they may not be
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as polite as me.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
They did not pull any punches. This is a cautionary tale.
Be careful what you do because people apparently can always
find out who you are.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And not only that.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I always say there's someone always watching, there's someone with
a camera phone recording.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yes, and in this case, no images, no video was taken,
didn't even have to be. It was just a play
by play of the a narration if you will, of
the event.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
No, but you still have to be mindful of that too.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And if you're on a plane, you know, someone may
not be pointing a camera at you. But yeah, if
your information gets out there, they will find you.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
When we come back and orca attack, a new exercise trend,
and a math equation that has stumped everyone on the
viral load.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well that that includes me because I can't do math
with a damn IF I Am six forty we live
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You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (07:21):
Now it's tuning the viral load. Tiffany Live on Campies
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Speaker 2 (07:37):
Hubs ca IF I Am six Fortyes later with mo Kelly,
let's get to part two of the viral load.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Unfortunately, there's been yet another orca attack. Let me tell
you what happened. This is a just another and a
long line of orca attacks. We've seen these in previous years.
This one, in particular, shows a marine trainer by the
name of Jessica Ratcliff as she's fatally attacked by an
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orca during a live show. The attack has gone viral
across TikTok, Facebook, x, anywhere you can imagine, and it
shows Jessica Ratcliff on top of the orca at Pacific
Blue Marine Park. People are seen cheering as the orca
comes out of the water, but after some time it
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suddenly lunges and pulls Jessica Ratcliff under the water. Several
users who shared the video claim that Jessica died just
minutes after being pulled under. However, this video is absolutely
a I generated It's completely fake, and many people have
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shared the video not knowing that there's no validity. There's
no actuality to this video now. Of course, despite being
shared widely, despite being a viral sensation, what has been
found by not just Internet sleuths but also actual scientists
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who dissect this sort of imagery forensic analyst, if you will,
is that there are so many inconsistencies with the video
that render it as being fake that if you just
look closely, you might be able to tell. For one,
there are issues with the movement of the water and
strange pauses in the video.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Even the name of the water park is fake.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And when you look up this marine trainer Jessica Ratcliffe,
she also does not exist. So this is yet another
cautionary tale about AI being extremely efficient and convincing, but
dangerous in the sense that many of us will be
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able to tell fact from Fiction for our next story,
it's a math question. There's an elementary school math question
that's left students and parents perplexed. School is back in session,
kids are bringing home work and they're sharing it with
their families, some in hopes of getting some sort of
support or tutoring. And in this case, there's a father.
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His name is Bobby, and he shared the math question
or riddle to his thread's account, where it has gone
massively viral, racking up over one hundred and sixteen thousand views.
Bobby went on to say, quote, I get sent tricky
math questions all the time, so I thought this one
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would be a piece of cake. But when I read it,
I couldn't even find a clear question. He went on
to share it on social media and hopes that you
might be able to figure it out. Here it goes
everyone ready, all right, here we go.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I can't help you, so keep on.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Dina is baking.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
The cake bakes from eleven o'clock until half past eleven.
The brownies bake from ten past eleven until twenty five
to twelve. Do you agree with Dina? Explain your answer.
I'll read that again.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Please do.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Dina is baking, Okay, here's Dina. She's working radio, so
I don't have to do math anymore. The hell's going on.
The cake bakes from eleven o'clock until half past eleven,
so the cake is baking from eleven to eleven thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The brownies bake.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
From ten past eleven, so eleven ten until twenty five
to twelve. So from ten to ten until ten thirty five,
the brownies are baking. Then, lastly, do you agree with Dina?
Explain your answer?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Okay, so it says twenty five pass or till twelve
and on your own. I'm not trying to help you.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
The brownies bake. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
The cake bakes from eleven o'clock until half past eleven. Okay,
Moe got that, Yeah, I got it. Here, Why are
you were glazed over? You're staring at me with a
vacant look in your eyes.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Look when I got a d in statistics.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I almost failed business calculus in my sophomore year
of college. Those are the last math classes I ever took.
And I'm not trying to do word puzzles and math teasers.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Now I didn't even get that far. Okay, you mathematicians again. Lastly,
last time, I read this. The cake bakes from eleven
o'clock until half past eleven. The brownies bake from ten
past eleven until twenty five to twelve.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Do you agree with Dina? Explain your answer.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Mark Ronald comes, save us. Prove how smart you are.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I'm happy to say that I was working on something
else and trying really hard not to pitten.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
All right, give us the damn answer.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
No one has to come up with the answer because
problems like this need to have a base ten foundation.
There needs to be some sort of equation that you
can extract so that you can solve.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
There's no equation here.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It felt like something was missing, but in my limited
understanding of math, I didn't and I wouldn't have been
able to answer this.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
She cooked the brownies from eleven ten to eleven thirty five.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I have to move. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Robin's going to stay right here.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You work that out and see if you can figure
it out while we're doing the next story.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But mine's not.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
The same amount of time that much I can.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This math problem went home to Bobby's seven year old kid.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
A seven year old was sent this.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Weirdly written and seemingly unsolvable equation, but it's stumping the internet.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Did you bring brownies?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Did you bring cake?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I don't want to know where it is. Get no,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
While you're working said, while you're working on that math question.
If math isn't your thing, then maybe getting outside is
there's a.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
New no no, no, I'm an indoor person.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well there's something you can do inside as well. There's
a new exercise trend. And if Claudine were here, I'd
love to find out what she thinks about this. All
of you who are into high impact intensity workouts where
you interval train, do something really fast, really hard, and
then moderate, and then really fast, really hard and then moderate.
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This is the new trend and it's straight out of Japan.
It's called the Japanese walking fitness trend, and proponents of
it say that it can actually improve your health because
it's high intensity interval walking. It requires thirty minutes of
workout time, only just thirty minutes. You alternate between three
minutes of real high impact walking and three minutes of
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slower walking, and you repeat this on off cycle five
times for thirty minutes. It has gone incredibly viral, of
course across TikTok, because apparently on TikTok people don't know
that walking is exercise, but now they do, and they've
named it because that's what this generation does, and it
is called Japanese walking.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Now you know, people other than Japanese, do you walk?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I am aware?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Okay, just checking on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Apparently not.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
What are you going to say, Mark, Well, there's some
American science that predates that and backs it up in track.
These used to be called, and I'm not making this up,
fartle like fartl e k, which involves alternating your pace
like sprinting for the first part of the mile and
then going at a comfortable pace the rest of it,
over and over again. Sure, so you're supposed to get
better returns on that than just say, going at the
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highest pace you possibly can for the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Also, I'm happy to say the word fartlek on the radio.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Fart like there you go?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Mo?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
No, no, no, you too? Continue? Please?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Do you fart like?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I say the word on a treadmill at varying speeds
and intensity.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Japanese walking or start lacking it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Is black man walking. It has nothing to do with
Japanese people.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I didn't have to. I didn't. I didn't, you know,
go to Japan and seek.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Out some wise sage to figure out the best way
to walk. It's something I've been doing for more than
fifty three years.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Okay, Well, Dina is baking the cake bakes for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
May listening.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, I'm listening Brownie's bake for about twenty five minutes.
Do you agree with Dina? Is the question?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, but Dina hasn't. It hasn't postulated anything. Disagree?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Don you agree with Dina? Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Getting attacked on my own show.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's viral.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, but see the thing is, let me attack you
on Saturdays with Tiffany's you feel.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
No, you know I won't be on this Saturday because
we're preempt because of the Chargers game. I'll be fart
lacking instead. Excuse you, pardon me, little fart lacking.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
That's Swedish. By the way, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Swedish for a diverse show.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, I mean speed play in Swedish. Partly.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I guess you learn something new every day, but I
didn't learn anything from that math question.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Did you, Robin? Did you learn anything from that math question.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, so oh what temperature was it at? Because that matters?
That matters. I gave you everything I had, all right, Well,
that fart lacking. I do not agree.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What is there to agree with because it wasn't a
question or a thesis. Statement made you know the grass
is green? Do you agree the brownies are done? Do
you agree?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Trying to make sense out of viral I should make
viral things. That's why things are viral, not because they
make sense, because they get your thinking.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
All right, well, this is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If you take your ass on an airplane, do not
try to vape and then act like an a hole
after you get busted out for vaping on an airplane.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I Am six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Are alive everywhere on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Did you hear the story?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And this is like part two of the story, but
did you hear the original story about the a hole
who was vaping on an American Airlines flight in one
of the lavatories.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
And once you even get on the flight. They say,
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You can't smoke, you can't tamper with the smoke alarm,
you can't do any of that. Those are all federal crimes. Okay,
most of them felonies. Everyone knows it, and if you
do it, you're committing a crime, period, full stop.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Into the sent tense.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This guy, Peter and Wynn, this passenger who was also
some sort of influencer, decided to go into an air
air line bathroom and started vaping because evidently has a
nicotine addiction and couldn't last a full two hour flight
without nicotine.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
He went in there.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I guess it was obvious maybe there was some sort
of steam or smoke or whatever whatever they admit was
coming out of the lavatory, and so the flight attendant
opened the door and caught him in the act vaping,
to which he started taping the interaction and the argument
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between himself and the flight attendant because he's the victim.
He's a victim, and he wanted to maximize the views
on him being an a hole and a.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Quote unquote victim.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
He's claiming that he's a victim that because she barsed
in on him and embarrassed him, took his privacy away,
and now he says his privacy and dignity were violated.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Dignity.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
The problem with this is people would actually believe him
and support him when he's wrong in the first place.
It's like you're in the middle of breaking into a
bank crime crime, and then you want to complain about, Hey,
they pushed me down when they arrested me.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You're in the middle of committing a major felony.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
The thing that adds insult to injury with a lot
of these sorts of cases, especially when it comes to
people behaving badly in public and victimizing others or being belligerent,
is that, like you said, they'll always be able to
galvanize supporters, and now what they're getting is money.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
They're getting lots and lots and lots of money.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Because they're dumb. Yeah, the followers are dumb.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And I need American Airlines to put this guy on
the no fly list because they can do it by
airlines and make sure that he never has another opportunity
to fly on American again.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I just want to understand why people will pay all
of this money for a flight go through the you know,
the all the trouble of waking up or being at
you know, on time, at the airport, making the flight,
going through all of the details, and it's already a
stressful and strenuous situation. Why would you do all of
that to sacrifice it for language or vaping or any.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Other I'll tell you why. This is a perfect example
of their not being consequences. And this kind of leads
into what I'm going to talk about my final thought
regarding elected officials politicians, There are no consequences anymore, So
what is the deterrent? Why should Let's say I saw
this video and I decided, you know what, I think
I want to do something similar. I want to go
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on there and enter the Mile High Club on a
full plane and dare them to open the bathroom door
so I could do the exact same thing. I can
tape it, and then it's going to go viral, and
it's going to get on the news. They're going to
talk about it on KFI and later with mo' kelly,
and then I'm going to monetize all of that.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
What is the deterrent?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
If there are no consequences to this type of behavior?
There was, there was, there was a consequence as far
as the flight was concerned. I mean, I don't think
they landed early or anything, and he got a tongue
lashing and maybe he.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Was talked to by airport security or something.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But there weren't any real consequences beyond that.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
No, and he'll this person will be Internet famous and
even infamy at this point is what people seek because
it's it's you're able to monotonize it or monetize it.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
So I don't know what I would do in that situation.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If I see a guy come out of the lavatory
with his phone in some sort of confrontation altercation with
flight staff, I don't know if I could sit idly by,
because I would just want to just hit him one
good time in the throat.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, you heard me, being honest.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
That story that Mark covered a little while ago about
the person who was acting belligerent and violent using his
belt as a weapon and another passenger literally picked this
guy up like a child and slammed him down into
a seat, Well that's.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Easier because if someone's being physically belligerent and violent, I
don't have to mentally justify anything at that point because
he is impacting everyone's safety.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
At that point, if this situation.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
This influencer is not necessarily making anyone else unsafe, he's
just being an ass. Yeah, and he's filming himself being
an ass for the sake of likes and hearts.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I mean, I don't know. I maybe would have snatched
the phone out.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, that's yeah. And we can we can surmise about
what we would do. I think more people should do
and not just wish retrospectively, you know, but it comes
with a lot of consequence, because then you can get
sued by this person.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, and that's something you think. I just maybe
knock it out of his hand or something, you know, Yeah,
or somehow foot to the chest something.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Because we're at a point where I understand why people
don't want to get involved. I get it, because you
have to think about all the unintended consequences of getting involved.
You can see that he's an a hole, so he's
going to incorporate you in your a hole, in his
a holdness where he's trying to make American the bad
guy and he's a victim. And of course he would
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have included anyone else who got in the way.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Me. I just tend to think of myself as a
person like hmm, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, right is right, wrong is wrong, and we
in this country have lost complete sight of right and
wrong and have the dirty nerve to get upset at
other people when we ourselves are not doing what we need.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
To do, and when others hold us accountable for when
we are wrong.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Then they're the bad guy. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And then and it's from our elected officials all the
way down.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
But we'll get into that next. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'll have my final thought which connects back to at
La City Councilman Current Price, who had another pair of
charges thrown at him today.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And before we get out of here, here is my
final thought, and I'm going to kind of loop back
to what i was talking about with La City Councilman
Current Price. But it's not just about him. It's about
our politics big picture. Because once upon a time there
was such a thing as the moral high ground. Once
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upon a time there was this thing called shame. Those
days are long gone. It didn't happen overnight, it didn't
happen relatively quickly, but sure enough, as sure as I'm
sitting here, it has happened. Earlier in the show, I
told you about the two new public corruption charges against
La City councilmen. Current Price. He's facing maybe a half
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dozen felonies. Now, I honestly don't know. I've lost count,
but he's not stepping down. And stepping down used to
be something irrespective of whether you were found guilty or
not guilty in a court of law later on. Stepping
down was, once upon a time, an acknowledgment that you
had respect for the institution and your constituents. You knew
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that fighting off felties would get in the way of
serving the people. I mean, a trial in which you're
facing decades in prison will probably get in the way
of any day job as a civil servant. So stepping
down was an acknowledgment that you've embarrassed the office, you've
embarrassed yourself, you've embarrassed your constituents, and you've betrayed all
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of that in representing them. You have betrayed the public trust.
That's separate from the issue of innocence or guilt. People
don't get charged with multiple felonies out of nowhere, not then,
not even now. In the world pre Donald Trump, current
price would have not been able to survive this innocence
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or not. These days, the playbook is known to everyone.
Deny everything, attack the prosecution as being a witch hunt,
attack the media for reporting the facts as they are,
and call it all fake news. But never ever admit fault,
never ever resign to be honest. That says more about
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us as voters than the individual politicians. They do it
because they know they can get away with it, and
we as voters are only going to get in elected
officials what we're willing to put up with. You don't
get incompetent clowns. If you won't put up with incompetent clowns,
you won't get corrupt criminals. If we as a society
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made it clear that we won't accept corrupt elected officials.
And that's very different than simply looking for corruption on
the part of the party you don't like. Put them
in jail, Put her in jail, her up, lock him up.
But you know, don't worry about our guy. There's no
moral high ground to be found if you only think
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the other party has.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Crooked in it. Shame used to be a powerful deterrent.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Hypocrisy used to be an effective tool to demonstrate how
elected officials had fallen short. Former New York Governor Elliot
Spitzer remember him. He was shamed into his resignation over
his solicitation of hookers and the hypocrisy of having done
it while championing his quote unquote tough on crime prosecutor persona.
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I remember that is both. It was both the shame
and the hypocrisy. He resigned, he left it with no choice.
But that was then. Now you have people like George Santos,
who was as corrupt as they come, and he had
to be put out of Congress because.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
He was not leaving on his own.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
No amount of shame or claims of hypocrisy was going
to influence him.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
That's where we are today. Someone said it best.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I've adopted it ever since, and I wish I could
remember who said it to me so I could get
full attribution.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But I can't, so I won't. But that person said.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You can't shame the shameless, meaning people who have no
shame or don't feel shame are impervious to shame, meaning
people who have no shame. It doesn't influence their decisions,
but it's just not the politician. We as voters, we
don't value shamer hypocrisy anymore. So it's twofold. The result
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is that we get the politicians that we have asked for.
You can't support everything that Donald Trump says and has
done with impunity and also point the finger at the
other politicians and demand that they resign. There is no
moral high ground there. That ship sailed back in twenty fifteen.
It would be like supporting the Democratic former Congressman Anthony Wiener,
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Remember him, the guy who had multiple sexting scandals which
included sexting a minor and then demanding other elected officials
to resign while skipping over Anthony Wiener. The winner did
finally resign. He may be the last of his kind
in that regard. Here's the takeaway. We can't be surprised
that the lacking quality of our elected leaders, be a
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local like current price an LA city council, or state level,
or federal level. We can't be surprised at the lacking
quality as long as we do not require them to
be decent people at their foundation. We can't expect elected
officials to not engage in criminal behavior.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
While in office. If we don't require.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That of all elected officials, regardless of party. The DOJ
which originally prosecuted current price is the same damn DOJ
which prosecuted Hunter Biden and the same damn DOJ which
prosecuted Donald Trump. But we want to pick and choose
which DOJ day is corrupt or being politically weaponized. You
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can't have it both ways because shame doesn't work that way.
Hypocrisy doesn't work that way. Either we want honorable and
or we don't. If we don't demand it, we won't
get it. But we are seeing the consequences of not
having it. For KF I am six forty, I'm mo
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Kelly ks BI and KOs T h D two, Los Angeles,
Orange County more stimulating talk you see
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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viral load. Viral load, the viral load, Lady.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
K if I am six forty. It is the viral load.
Now on Later with Mo Kelly, Tiffany Hops, take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I actually visited the foosh today our our wonderful Stephan
and I was talking to him about this week's viral load,
and I told him, I'll have stories that will stump you,
stories that will trick you, a story that might extend
your life, and a story that will show that social
media can provide the environment for you to ruin your
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own if you're not careful.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And that's how we're going to begin.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Our first story has to do with a social media
influencer who effectively took down a nurse on a recent flight.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What do I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Nothing physical here in this story, but an exchange of
words and a very harsh and understandable consequence. There was
a recent delta flight, and this flight was going from
London's Heathrow Airport to JFK About what would you say,
mo about a six hour seven hour or so flight
we're about about two hours into the flight. Many of
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us joined a conversation that prior to this we were
unbeknownst about. So what happens is, I'm perusing threads, which
is Instagram's answer to x slash Twitter, and I'm watching
a story unfold. And what happened is there's a social
media influencer who's on this flight from Heathrow to JFK.
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The social media influencer's name is Tanika A. B. Tanika AB,
and what she does is she chronicles an exchange between
another passenger and a flight attendant. Now let me set
the scene for you. The flight attendant black woman, passenger
white woman, and Tanika AB black woman.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Diverse plane.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
But this distinction is important because what Tanika chronicled is
that the flight attendant asked the passenger to put a
seat belt around her toddler son as there was turbulence
or whatever it might have been. The passenger said whatever,
she said no, some sort of disagreement. She was asked
again by the flight attendant to strap her kid down,
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to which the passenger responded by calling the flight attendant
the inWORD and the B word. When the flight attendant said,
excuse me. The passenger doubled down, calling her again the
in word and the B word. Now, Tanika Ab, on
this flight social media influencer she is, decides to post
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about the exchange that's where all of us were brought in.
She uploaded her commentary and over the next few hours,
she detailed everything that she saw, including other passengers rallying
around the flight attendant to comfort her because it was
said that she was in a lot of distress, that
she was crying. She was very hurt and shocked by
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the exchange with the passenger who was still sitting in
her seat with her child and her husband at the time. Now,
Tanika continues to chronicle, and she also says that she's
going to contact Delta, So she begins directly messaging and
including Delta in her commentary. So that's going to get
the attention, of course of someone from Delta. Because people
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started to repost and reshare what Tanika Ab was saying.
That's what ended up going viral. Over the next couple
of hours. The internet seemingly banned together to not only
find out the passenger's name, and you might be saying,
how could they do that, Well, Tanika Ab said, hey,
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we're on the flight number blankety blankety blank. We're going
into JFK. People who are very savvy were able to
track the flight, find the manifest and find the passenger's
seat because Tanika Ab said, the passengers in x y
z seat. They found the passenger's name, pulled it up.
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Her name is now trending. Her name is Dana Genaire
and she's tracked cannot They found her. They found that
she's a nurse. Here Garry gannew interesting. They found that
she's a nurse. They found her nurse license, warded her
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to the nursing board of the state in which she
practices in found her husband's information. And because of all
the attention did her husband have to do with this?
He was just, you know, she caught some stray. It's
collateral damage because of all of this. Delta, according to
Tanika Ab, who was still giving the play by play,
met the plane at the gate at JFK and unloaded
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offloaded Dana Gennaire to the tune of forty five thousand
dollars fine and some sort of maybe temporary imprisonment there
but a forty five thousand dollars fine, the potential that
she may face being now entered onto the no fly list,
and the further ramifications that her nursing license will likely
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be either suspended or somehow put in jeopardy. So the
Internet came together and took down a racist with the
help of a social media influencer's post.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I would never recommend violence. I would never do that.
That's not who I am. I am going to say
that because of the Internet and social media. When you
get out of pocket like that, sometimes people will take
matters into their own hands, and they may not be
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as polite as me.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
They did not pull any punches. This is a cautionary tale.
Be careful what you do because people apparently can always
find out who you are.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
And not only that.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I always say there's someone always watching, there's someone with
a camera phone recording.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yes, and in this case, no images, no video was taken,
didn't even have to be. It was just a play
by play of the a narration if you will, of
the event.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
No, but you still have to be mindful of that too.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And if you're on a plane, you know, someone may
not be pointing a camera at you. But yeah, if
your information gets out there, they will find you.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
When we come back and orca attack, a new exercise trend,
and a math equation that has stumped everyone on the
viral load.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well that that includes me because I can't do math
with a damn IF I Am six forty we live
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Now it's tuning the viral load. Tiffany Live on Campies
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Hubs ca IF I Am six Fortyes later with mo Kelly,
let's get to part two of the viral load.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Unfortunately, there's been yet another orca attack. Let me tell
you what happened. This is a just another and a
long line of orca attacks. We've seen these in previous years.
This one, in particular, shows a marine trainer by the
name of Jessica Ratcliff as she's fatally attacked by an
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orca during a live show. The attack has gone viral
across TikTok, Facebook, x, anywhere you can imagine, and it
shows Jessica Ratcliff on top of the orca at Pacific
Blue Marine Park. People are seen cheering as the orca
comes out of the water, but after some time it
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suddenly lunges and pulls Jessica Ratcliff under the water. Several
users who shared the video claim that Jessica died just
minutes after being pulled under. However, this video is absolutely
a I generated It's completely fake, and many people have
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shared the video not knowing that there's no validity. There's
no actuality to this video now. Of course, despite being
shared widely, despite being a viral sensation, what has been
found by not just Internet sleuths but also actual scientists
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who dissect this sort of imagery forensic analyst, if you will,
is that there are so many inconsistencies with the video
that render it as being fake that if you just
look closely, you might be able to tell. For one,
there are issues with the movement of the water and
strange pauses in the video.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Even the name of the water park is fake.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And when you look up this marine trainer Jessica Ratcliffe,
she also does not exist. So this is yet another
cautionary tale about AI being extremely efficient and convincing, but
dangerous in the sense that many of us will be
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able to tell fact from Fiction for our next story,
it's a math question. There's an elementary school math question
that's left students and parents perplexed. School is back in session,
kids are bringing home work and they're sharing it with
their families, some in hopes of getting some sort of
support or tutoring. And in this case, there's a father.
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His name is Bobby, and he shared the math question
or riddle to his thread's account, where it has gone
massively viral, racking up over one hundred and sixteen thousand views.
Bobby went on to say, quote, I get sent tricky
math questions all the time, so I thought this one
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would be a piece of cake. But when I read it,
I couldn't even find a clear question. He went on
to share it on social media and hopes that you
might be able to figure it out. Here it goes
everyone ready, all right, here we go.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I can't help you, so keep on.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Dina is baking.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
The cake bakes from eleven o'clock until half past eleven.
The brownies bake from ten past eleven until twenty five
to twelve. Do you agree with Dina? Explain your answer.
I'll read that again.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Please do.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Dina is baking, Okay, here's Dina. She's working radio, so
I don't have to do math anymore. The hell's going on.
The cake bakes from eleven o'clock until half past eleven,
so the cake is baking from eleven to eleven thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
The brownies bake.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
From ten past eleven, so eleven ten until twenty five
to twelve. So from ten to ten until ten thirty five,
the brownies are baking. Then, lastly, do you agree with Dina?
Explain your answer?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Okay, so it says twenty five pass or till twelve
and on your own. I'm not trying to help you.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
The brownies bake. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
The cake bakes from eleven o'clock until half past eleven. Okay,
Moe got that, Yeah, I got it. Here, Why are
you were glazed over? You're staring at me with a
vacant look in your eyes.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Look when I got a d in statistics.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I almost failed business calculus in my sophomore year
of college. Those are the last math classes I ever took.
And I'm not trying to do word puzzles and math teasers.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Now I didn't even get that far. Okay, you mathematicians again. Lastly,
last time, I read this. The cake bakes from eleven
o'clock until half past eleven. The brownies bake from ten
past eleven until twenty five to twelve.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Do you agree with Dina? Explain your answer.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Mark Ronald comes, save us. Prove how smart you are.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I'm happy to say that I was working on something
else and trying really hard not to pitten.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
All right, give us the damn answer.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
No one has to come up with the answer because
problems like this need to have a base ten foundation.
There needs to be some sort of equation that you
can extract so that you can solve.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
There's no equation here.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
It felt like something was missing, but in my limited
understanding of math, I didn't and I wouldn't have been
able to answer this.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
She cooked the brownies from eleven ten to eleven thirty five.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I have to move. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Robin's going to stay right here.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You work that out and see if you can figure
it out while we're doing the next story.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
But mine's not.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
The same amount of time that much I can.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
This math problem went home to Bobby's seven year old kid.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
A seven year old was sent this.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Weirdly written and seemingly unsolvable equation, but it's stumping the internet.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Did you bring brownies?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Did you bring cake?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I don't want to know where it is. Get no,
thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
While you're working said, while you're working on that math question.
If math isn't your thing, then maybe getting outside is
there's a.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
New no no, no, I'm an indoor person.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well there's something you can do inside as well. There's
a new exercise trend. And if Claudine were here, I'd
love to find out what she thinks about this. All
of you who are into high impact intensity workouts where
you interval train, do something really fast, really hard, and
then moderate, and then really fast, really hard and then moderate.
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This is the new trend and it's straight out of Japan.
It's called the Japanese walking fitness trend, and proponents of
it say that it can actually improve your health because
it's high intensity interval walking. It requires thirty minutes of
workout time, only just thirty minutes. You alternate between three
minutes of real high impact walking and three minutes of
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slower walking, and you repeat this on off cycle five
times for thirty minutes. It has gone incredibly viral, of
course across TikTok, because apparently on TikTok people don't know
that walking is exercise, but now they do, and they've
named it because that's what this generation does, and it
is called Japanese walking.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Now you know, people other than Japanese, do you walk?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I am aware?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Okay, just checking on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Apparently not.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
What are you going to say, Mark, Well, there's some
American science that predates that and backs it up in track.
These used to be called, and I'm not making this up,
fartle like fartl e k, which involves alternating your pace
like sprinting for the first part of the mile and
then going at a comfortable pace the rest of it,
over and over again. Sure, so you're supposed to get
better returns on that than just say, going at the
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highest pace you possibly can for the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Also, I'm happy to say the word fartlek on the radio.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Fart like there you go?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
Mo?
Speaker 5 (16:04):
No, no, no, you too? Continue? Please?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Do you fart like?
Speaker 5 (16:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I say the word on a treadmill at varying speeds
and intensity.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Japanese walking or start lacking it.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Is black man walking. It has nothing to do with
Japanese people.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I didn't have to. I didn't. I didn't, you know,
go to Japan and seek.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Out some wise sage to figure out the best way
to walk. It's something I've been doing for more than
fifty three years.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Okay, Well, Dina is baking the cake bakes for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
May listening.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Yeah, I'm listening Brownie's bake for about twenty five minutes.
Do you agree with Dina? Is the question?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, but Dina hasn't. It hasn't postulated anything. Disagree?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Don you agree with Dina? Yes or no?
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Getting attacked on my own show.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It's viral.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, but see the thing is, let me attack you
on Saturdays with Tiffany's you feel.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
No, you know I won't be on this Saturday because
we're preempt because of the Chargers game. I'll be fart
lacking instead. Excuse you, pardon me, little fart lacking.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
That's Swedish. By the way, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Swedish for a diverse show.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, I mean speed play in Swedish. Partly.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I guess you learn something new every day, but I
didn't learn anything from that math question.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Did you, Robin? Did you learn anything from that math question.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, so oh what temperature was it at? Because that matters?
That matters. I gave you everything I had, all right, Well,
that fart lacking. I do not agree.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What is there to agree with because it wasn't a
question or a thesis. Statement made you know the grass
is green? Do you agree the brownies are done? Do
you agree?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Trying to make sense out of viral I should make
viral things. That's why things are viral, not because they
make sense, because they get your thinking.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
All right, well, this is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If you take your ass on an airplane, do not
try to vape and then act like an a hole
after you get busted out for vaping on an airplane.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
We'll talk about it next.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I Am six forty. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Are alive everywhere on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Did you hear the story?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And this is like part two of the story, but
did you hear the original story about the a hole
who was vaping on an American Airlines flight in one
of the lavatories.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
And once you even get on the flight. They say,
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
You can't smoke, you can't tamper with the smoke alarm,
you can't do any of that. Those are all federal crimes. Okay,
most of them felonies. Everyone knows it, and if you
do it, you're committing a crime, period, full stop.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Into the sent tense.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
This guy, Peter and Wynn, this passenger who was also
some sort of influencer, decided to go into an air
air line bathroom and started vaping because evidently has a
nicotine addiction and couldn't last a full two hour flight
without nicotine.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
He went in there.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I guess it was obvious maybe there was some sort
of steam or smoke or whatever whatever they admit was
coming out of the lavatory, and so the flight attendant
opened the door and caught him in the act vaping,
to which he started taping the interaction and the argument
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between himself and the flight attendant because he's the victim.
He's a victim, and he wanted to maximize the views
on him being an a hole and a.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Quote unquote victim.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
He's claiming that he's a victim that because she barsed
in on him and embarrassed him, took his privacy away,
and now he says his privacy and dignity were violated.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Dignity.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
The problem with this is people would actually believe him
and support him when he's wrong in the first place.
It's like you're in the middle of breaking into a
bank crime crime, and then you want to complain about, Hey,
they pushed me down when they arrested me.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
You're in the middle of committing a major felony.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
The thing that adds insult to injury with a lot
of these sorts of cases, especially when it comes to
people behaving badly in public and victimizing others or being belligerent,
is that, like you said, they'll always be able to
galvanize supporters, and now what they're getting is money.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
They're getting lots and lots and lots of money.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Because they're dumb. Yeah, the followers are dumb.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
And I need American Airlines to put this guy on
the no fly list because they can do it by
airlines and make sure that he never has another opportunity
to fly on American again.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
I just want to understand why people will pay all
of this money for a flight go through the you know,
the all the trouble of waking up or being at
you know, on time, at the airport, making the flight,
going through all of the details, and it's already a
stressful and strenuous situation. Why would you do all of
that to sacrifice it for language or vaping or any.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Other I'll tell you why. This is a perfect example
of their not being consequences. And this kind of leads
into what I'm going to talk about my final thought
regarding elected officials politicians, There are no consequences anymore, So
what is the deterrent? Why should Let's say I saw
this video and I decided, you know what, I think
I want to do something similar. I want to go
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on there and enter the Mile High Club on a
full plane and dare them to open the bathroom door
so I could do the exact same thing. I can
tape it, and then it's going to go viral, and
it's going to get on the news. They're going to
talk about it on KFI and later with mo' kelly,
and then I'm going to monetize all of that.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
What is the deterrent?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
If there are no consequences to this type of behavior?
There was, there was, there was a consequence as far
as the flight was concerned. I mean, I don't think
they landed early or anything, and he got a tongue
lashing and maybe he.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Was talked to by airport security or something.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But there weren't any real consequences beyond that.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
No, and he'll this person will be Internet famous and
even infamy at this point is what people seek because
it's it's you're able to monotonize it or monetize it.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
So I don't know what I would do in that situation.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
If I see a guy come out of the lavatory
with his phone in some sort of confrontation altercation with
flight staff, I don't know if I could sit idly by,
because I would just want to just hit him one
good time in the throat.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, you heard me, being honest.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
That story that Mark covered a little while ago about
the person who was acting belligerent and violent using his
belt as a weapon and another passenger literally picked this
guy up like a child and slammed him down into
a seat, Well that's.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Easier because if someone's being physically belligerent and violent, I
don't have to mentally justify anything at that point because
he is impacting everyone's safety.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
At that point, if this situation.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
This influencer is not necessarily making anyone else unsafe, he's
just being an ass. Yeah, and he's filming himself being
an ass for the sake of likes and hearts.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
I mean, I don't know. I maybe would have snatched
the phone out.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, that's yeah. And we can we can surmise about
what we would do. I think more people should do
and not just wish retrospectively, you know, but it comes
with a lot of consequence, because then you can get
sued by this person.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, and that's something you think. I just maybe
knock it out of his hand or something, you know, Yeah,
or somehow foot to the chest something.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Because we're at a point where I understand why people
don't want to get involved. I get it, because you
have to think about all the unintended consequences of getting involved.
You can see that he's an a hole, so he's
going to incorporate you in your a hole, in his
a holdness where he's trying to make American the bad
guy and he's a victim. And of course he would
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have included anyone else who got in the way.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Me. I just tend to think of myself as a
person like hmm, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, right is right, wrong is wrong, and we
in this country have lost complete sight of right and
wrong and have the dirty nerve to get upset at
other people when we ourselves are not doing what we need.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
To do, and when others hold us accountable for when
we are wrong.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Then they're the bad guy. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And then and it's from our elected officials all the
way down.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
But we'll get into that next. It's Later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I'll have my final thought which connects back to at
La City Councilman Current Price, who had another pair of
charges thrown at him today.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And before we get out of here, here is my
final thought, and I'm going to kind of loop back
to what i was talking about with La City Councilman
Current Price. But it's not just about him. It's about
our politics big picture. Because once upon a time there
was such a thing as the moral high ground. Once
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upon a time there was this thing called shame. Those
days are long gone. It didn't happen overnight, it didn't
happen relatively quickly, but sure enough, as sure as I'm
sitting here, it has happened. Earlier in the show, I
told you about the two new public corruption charges against
La City councilmen. Current Price. He's facing maybe a half
(25:57):
dozen felonies. Now, I honestly don't know. I've lost count,
but he's not stepping down. And stepping down used to
be something irrespective of whether you were found guilty or
not guilty in a court of law later on. Stepping
down was, once upon a time, an acknowledgment that you
had respect for the institution and your constituents. You knew
(26:20):
that fighting off felties would get in the way of
serving the people. I mean, a trial in which you're
facing decades in prison will probably get in the way
of any day job as a civil servant. So stepping
down was an acknowledgment that you've embarrassed the office, you've
embarrassed yourself, you've embarrassed your constituents, and you've betrayed all
(26:41):
of that in representing them. You have betrayed the public trust.
That's separate from the issue of innocence or guilt. People
don't get charged with multiple felonies out of nowhere, not then,
not even now. In the world pre Donald Trump, current
price would have not been able to survive this innocence
(27:04):
or not. These days, the playbook is known to everyone.
Deny everything, attack the prosecution as being a witch hunt,
attack the media for reporting the facts as they are,
and call it all fake news. But never ever admit fault,
never ever resign to be honest. That says more about
(27:24):
us as voters than the individual politicians. They do it
because they know they can get away with it, and
we as voters are only going to get in elected
officials what we're willing to put up with. You don't
get incompetent clowns. If you won't put up with incompetent clowns,
you won't get corrupt criminals. If we as a society
(27:47):
made it clear that we won't accept corrupt elected officials.
And that's very different than simply looking for corruption on
the part of the party you don't like. Put them
in jail, Put her in jail, her up, lock him up.
But you know, don't worry about our guy. There's no
moral high ground to be found if you only think
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the other party has.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Crooked in it. Shame used to be a powerful deterrent.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Hypocrisy used to be an effective tool to demonstrate how
elected officials had fallen short. Former New York Governor Elliot
Spitzer remember him. He was shamed into his resignation over
his solicitation of hookers and the hypocrisy of having done
it while championing his quote unquote tough on crime prosecutor persona.
(28:34):
I remember that is both. It was both the shame
and the hypocrisy. He resigned, he left it with no choice.
But that was then. Now you have people like George Santos,
who was as corrupt as they come, and he had
to be put out of Congress because.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
He was not leaving on his own.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
No amount of shame or claims of hypocrisy was going
to influence him.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
That's where we are today. Someone said it best.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I've adopted it ever since, and I wish I could
remember who said it to me so I could get
full attribution.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But I can't, so I won't. But that person said.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You can't shame the shameless, meaning people who have no
shame or don't feel shame are impervious to shame, meaning
people who have no shame. It doesn't influence their decisions,
but it's just not the politician. We as voters, we
don't value shamer hypocrisy anymore. So it's twofold. The result
(29:28):
is that we get the politicians that we have asked for.
You can't support everything that Donald Trump says and has
done with impunity and also point the finger at the
other politicians and demand that they resign. There is no
moral high ground there. That ship sailed back in twenty fifteen.
It would be like supporting the Democratic former Congressman Anthony Wiener,
(29:48):
Remember him, the guy who had multiple sexting scandals which
included sexting a minor and then demanding other elected officials
to resign while skipping over Anthony Wiener. The winner did
finally resign. He may be the last of his kind
in that regard. Here's the takeaway. We can't be surprised
that the lacking quality of our elected leaders, be a
(30:10):
local like current price an LA city council, or state level,
or federal level. We can't be surprised at the lacking
quality as long as we do not require them to
be decent people at their foundation. We can't expect elected
officials to not engage in criminal behavior.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
While in office. If we don't require.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
That of all elected officials, regardless of party. The DOJ
which originally prosecuted current price is the same damn DOJ
which prosecuted Hunter Biden and the same damn DOJ which
prosecuted Donald Trump. But we want to pick and choose
which DOJ day is corrupt or being politically weaponized. You
(30:51):
can't have it both ways because shame doesn't work that way.
Hypocrisy doesn't work that way. Either we want honorable and
or we don't. If we don't demand it, we won't
get it. But we are seeing the consequences of not
having it. For KF I am six forty, I'm mo
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