July 17, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – In-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from the definition of Princess Treatment,” to a dangerous new TikTok challenge that has teens kicking people's front doors and running away…PLUS – Thoughts on the growing practice of “Digital Witchcraft” - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty.
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Now it's.
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Social media.
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Facebook gets to extract.
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Viral viral load, viral load.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
The viral load, Lady k if I am six forty.
It's Later with mo Kelly live on social media and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Let's get to Tiffany Hobbs and the viral load. Here
we go, good evening everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
In death, there are more than a few options for
your remains or the remains of your loved ones. Of course,
you can opt into the burial plot. You can get
put into a tree pod. Of course, you can be cremated,
and if you choose cremation, there are quite a few
creative things that can be done with your ashes. Some
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people like to keep them in a conventional urn, some
people like to put them in other places. And you
can even have your ashes or part of your ashes
put into a locket to wear around your neck or
keep as a keepsake. Yes, one man found this out
kind of in a strange way, but it does have
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a really heartwarming twist. So there's a man. His name
is Thomas Flavin. He's from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and he went
to one of those pick apart salvage yards to try
and find a part for his car. And as he
was looking through parts, he came across a jeep in
the junk yard. He goes to the jeep, he inspects it,
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he likes what he sees. I'm a jeep owner, so
shout out to Thomas Flavan for that. And what he
decided to do is he opened the door. He looked
at the dash, looked up at the rear view mirror,
and saw a lockett or a necklace hanging from the
rear view mirror. He said he originally was going to
take the necklace and give it to his daughter as
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a gift. Interesting guy, this, Thomas Flavin must have been
a nice looking locket. But what he realized upon further
inspection of the locket is that it had a screw
top at the top of the heart or whatever the
shape was, indicating that perhaps something was inside of the
locket because it didn't open like a conventional lockett would.
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So he opened the locket and was able to glean
that there were ashes of some sort inside. What he
then did is what made the story, or what's making
the story currently go viral. He posted on Facebook and
he welcomed people to try and find the original owner
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of the lockett, not the deceased person, but anyone who
might be.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
A family member of this figure out the exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
So he put an all call out using social media,
and to this date he's had thousands upon thousands of replies.
Of course, not everyone is going to be legit, but
a lot of people are there on social media wishing
him well and being really taken back by his altruistic
and compassionate response. But yeah, he's hoping the rightful owner
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will come forward.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And if you feel you are.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
The rightful owner that you were in this salvage yard
at the Gilcrease Expressway in Tosa, Oklahoma, he's going to
Thomas Flavan is going to require you to verify the make,
model and location of the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It came from interesting story.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Maybe you can follow up on this if someone comes forward.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
And as of right, you have a lot of people
who are being silly. And you know, when you put
out an all call on social media, it's hard to
vet the responses you're going to.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
But this is a very heartwarming effort by Thomas Flaman.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Our next story a little less heartwarming.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It has to do with treatment in relationships, kind of
a barometer that's being set on social media. When women,
usually women, have this conversation about their spouses, about their
mates and the treatment that they're receiving in a relationship,
many people weigh in and say that there are certain
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markers of good treatment. That marker might be that your
spouse fills up your gas. These are these resourced from
the internet. These are not my own, so I'll just
go down the list. That filling up your car without
gas without you having to ask, is a marker of
a good spouse.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That opening the door for you.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's good, carrying your bags, good, paying for nail appointments, good,
bringing you coffee in bed?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
What good?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Running errands for you where you're tired, Good, taking care
of you when you're sick, ding ding ding ding ding good.
The question that's going viral is are these acts what
you would call the bare minimum in a relationship or
are they something called princess treatment. The term princess treatment
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is all over social media, especially if you've spent time
on TikTok. Over the last couple of weeks there's a
debate over what princess treatment in tails, and there's a
video that's gone highly viral. We're gonna play a clip
from that now from content creator Courtney Palmer, who says,
this is the only way to live.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Let's talk about princess treatment. If you're at a restaurant,
how you interact with the white staff and the hostess.
If I am at a restaurant with my husband, I
do not talk to the hostess. I do not open
many doors, and I do not order my own food.
So someone had sent me a message a couple of
weeks ago asking about like, let's say your husband drops
you off and he goes to mark the car, what
do you do or if it's raining or something like that,
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and he wants you to put your name down. And
I had a very similar situation up into me with
my husband a couple of weeks ago. I'll put her
question on the screen so you can see exactly what
she's saying. But we pulled up, me and my husband
pulled up to a restaurant and he wanted to run
in and see we didn't have a reservation. He wanted
to run in, Well, we didn't have a reservation, so
we wanted to go up and see if it was
possible for us to get in. He pulled the car
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up at the valley station. He got I stayed in
the car. He got out of the car, told the
valet and I was going to run in and ask
a question. I'm going to leave my car here. I
sat in the car.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Well.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He ran in and asked them. They said, yeah, we
have says for you. And my husband said, okay, I'm
going to go get my wife and then I'm going
to park the car. So he comes back, al opens
my car door, walks me into the restaurant, opens the door,
and I stand and wait.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I did not make.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Eye contact with the hostess. I did not talk to her.
I waited until my husband came back. He comes back
with her.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And her jeez.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I couldn't deal with that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And she sound like a peach. She's a catch, this
Courtney palm.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
If she's happy with her husband and her husband is
happy with her, God bless everything.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Golly golly.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
And this is the debate that is raging all over
social media, led by Courtney Palmer, whose voice we just heard,
and she is saying, she is insisting that that sort
of treatment, that sort of interaction indicates that you are
being treated like a princess in your relationship and you
should accept nothing less, ladies.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This is what she's saying.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I'm not subscribing to Courtney Palmer, but this is all
the rage on social media.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Okay, I'm looking at a picture of her. It's like, oh,
can I be a princess? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
How can I say this without being disrespectful while on
my anniversary? I believe it is up for the couples
to decide where their comfort zone as far as level of.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Treatment. I'll give you a perfect example.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
My mother, who's listening right now, to the day my
father died, has never pumped gas. My father always did
that for her, and subsequent to that, I've done it
for my mother, But that was an understanding that they
had as a couple. My wife doesn't get down like that.
She doesn't want that type of unnecessary treatment, or at
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least in her eyes, unnecessary treatment.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think it's it's coupled by couple.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But if you're going to tell me, Courtney, what is
the correct treatment of a woman in a relationship?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Foh many people follow this, Courtney Palmer, Well, they're stupid too,
and they are subscribing to everything she's saying. So there
are debates I'm sure that are happening amongst households.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
She probably has an only fan page probably the world.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
What got me is is okay, just take the princess
part out of it, the fact that she had to
establish the fact that she didn't make eye contact with
the hostess.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What do you think you are?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Who do you think you are? Rude?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like Mike Pence's wife.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
When we come back, we're gonna have a fun little
story appropriate about a new TikTok challenge that is dangerous
for teenagers. It's it's they love it they're doing. I'll
share it what it is with you. And also, if
you're a fan of ACME and Warner Brothers, you'll really
love this last viral story.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Finally, finally, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Now it's time the ral Lot with Tiffany Live on
Campies Lit with.
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Mo O Kelly.
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She'll talk about the toughness on social media.
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From Alone with Tiffany Hubbs.
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Forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're still live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app and social media.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Now for part two of the Viral Lobe with Tiffany Hops.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Do you remember playing ding Dong ditch in your neighborhood?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Do I read? Did you do that more times than
I care to remember this?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Did you ever get caught?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, of course this was before they had ring
devices and everything.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
But yeah, now you have to worry about someone shooting
you too.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yes, and ding Dong Ditch has evolved. There's a new
TikTok challenge. He Instead of kids just ringing your door
bell or knocking on your door and running away before
you can open it, they're kicking on your door in
hopes of kicking it in.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, new TikTok.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Challenge is sweeping the nation with teenagers trying to kick
your door in.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Didn't someone get shot for that?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm sure many people have tried to do that. Well.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Police are definitely saying that this new trend, of course,
is illegal and extremely dangerous. They're warning kids all around
the country. This is not central to any one part
of the United States. It's happening everywhere because it's viral,
which means it is global. Honestly, that this trend could
have deadly consequences. Of course, is not the first dangerous
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trend that police in any area have had to deal with.
There's been many dangerous trends, including the cinnamon challenge remember
that where people ingested a huge spoonful of cinnamon, which
can be lethal if ingested improperly. And the chromebook challenge,
which I talked about if you try to ingest a chromebook,
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that probably would be better no where people are trying
to essentially blow up their chromebooks by putting sharp devices
into the different ports. But this new TikTok challenge of
kicking people's front doors to the point where some are
actually broken down is a popular challenge.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You're going to get shot just because obviously if you
kick the wrong door and you do damage to the door,
someone's going to think you're breaking and entering. Me personally,
I don't answer the door if I'm not expecting someone
point blank. Yeah, you could be ups man. You're gonna
leave the package there, and I know when I need
to sign for one so that I'm not answering my door.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Probably wise.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Also something that's happening which is leading people to believe
that we as a nation may not necessarily be that
wise when it comes to being able to discern between
what's fact and what's fiction.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Is a new, well not really new.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
A resurfaced photo that went viral in twenty sixteen of
what appears to be a painted tunnel on the side
of a mountain, and on the.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Side I saw.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
This is not just there's not just the tunnel by itself. No,
there's also the road Runner, the Roadrunner, our famous WB
Roadrunner painted alongside of this tunnel. The tunnel has been
painted on this wall, on this side of a mountain
to look effectively like a real, true sized tunnel that
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your car could go through. Then the the Wile in
the road Runner cartoons. The photos of this painting for
surfaced in twenty and sixteen after a driver reportedly crashed
into the wall. At the time, the damage was said
to be minor, and police treated what happened what the
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painting was as an act of vandalism. Locals labeled the
prank dangerous and genius because there were people who were
definitely enjoying the prank and people considered it to be
hyper realistic. The photos went viral. That was twenty sixteen.
That's another way you get your ass whooped too. Now
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nine years later, these photos and the virility of the
story are anew. They are back and people are talking
about it all over social media. I saw it maybe
a couple of days ago, and people were remarking about
how realistic it looked, and oh man, that's really dangerous.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Someone's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
But the question that is also going viral is is
the painting real? Some say this entire story is a hoax.
So the claim again went viral in March of twenty sixteen.
It appeared all over the Internet, especially on the website Reddit,
which is a sharing information sharing website person to person,
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but the story was actually proven to be false in
December of that year. The December article pinned the original
painting to Brazil, while other outlets attributed to Atlanta and
even the UK, so people didn't even know where this originated.
And what happened is word of mouth spread the story.
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Posting spread the story, but people who were interviewed not verified.
The outlets didn't go about verifying the story ries and
the backstories they ran with the sensationalism of the photo
of this possible painting, And now that the lore is
again making the internet rounds. It's not yet been fully
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proven to be false, so watch out for any wild
e coyotes near tunnels.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
See.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The sad part about this is we do live in
an age where you don't know if half the stuff
you're looking at is real, if it's a real photo,
if it's a real story, if it's a real person
AI all of those things, and we will forever be skeptical,
and sometimes rightfully so, but unnecessarily so, because we doubt
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everything everything where we can't trust for different reasons, news outlets,
we can't trust pictures that we see. We can't trust
these web portals that are posting these stories. What is
real anymore? No one really knows.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
What is real is probably the question, and stories like
this just prove how quickly something can spread and that
they can resurface almost a decade later with a brand
new audience that will make the story fresh and new again,
which is why we're talking about it on the viral load.
You can catch me Saturdays five to seven pm Saturdays
with Tiffany right here on k I AM six forty.
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We'll talk about more of this and other things as well.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Tiffy, I don't want you to go away because this
next story I want your input in because I don't
know if I purchase anything from Etsy ever, or anyone
who had it Etsy Store and purchased something from them.
So Epsy was kind of janky. Adjacent in my world
is like you get your own website, get your own
store type thing. Instead you settle for Etsy flea market ish. Yes,
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that's a good way to describe it. But when I
see that witches, spells and soulmates digital witchcraft are a
thing on Etsy, I gotta say, oh.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Gosh, you can sell anything.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
You're confirming everything that I feared about Etsy. I want
to get your thoughts about that. It's Later with mo
Kelly caf I AM six forty. We are live everywhere
on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 4 (17:19):
Kfi AM six forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're
live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app. And
I've never been a fan of Etsy. No, no shade,
per se. It's just I've never felt the need to
buy anything off of anybody's Etsy website. It's kind of
like if you're gonna be serious or be considered to
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be taken seriously. You need to have a real website.
You need to have a real online marketplace location. Etsy
just just reaped of dime.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Store to me.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So when I see that there is a whole cottage
industry of people buying weird stuff off of Vansy, It's like, yeah,
that tracks. According to the Wall Street Journal, so called
Etsy witches are selling everything from love spells to spirit cleansings,
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to soulmates sketches and good luck rituals, and people are
buying it. What it's weird.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I'm talking about spells.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Soulmates, good luck rituals. One popular influencer reportedly hired an
Etsy witch to ensure good weather on her wedding day,
and it turned out that ended up with clear skies.
I don't know if one had anything to do with
the other. Another Los Angeles Los Angeles creative director bought
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a spell to help the New York Knicks supposedly win
Game five of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals in May.
The Knicks did win that game, but when he paid
for another spell ahead of Game six, they lost. I
need to get on etc. And just start selling bs
so it works. No, no, no, no, there's.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Correlation is not causation. Okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Let's say I sold you a spell where you're going
to come into money tomorrow, and let's say you bought
a lottery ticket and you won one hundred dollars. I
would say that's correlation. But I can, I can. I
can guarantee you that I had nothing to do with that.
I did not cause that. I don't have have powers
like that, And I promise you if I could sell spells,
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I would be doing.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Something else other than radio, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I think there's an element of confirmation bias with this
as well, because if you're looking for the result, you're
looking for the you know, the thing that you're paying for,
and any semblance of that happens after you've paid, you're
going to attribute it if you pay this money, this
investment you've made to that thing, that product.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I can understand people will pay for psychics, and most
people understand it's a form of entertainment.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know, I've I've had a reading.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
But if I thought that someone who was making ten
ninety nine an hour could tell me my future, they
wouldn't be making ten ninety nine an hour.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But that's just me looking at it logically.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
But I understand you can have fun with some of
this stuff, but I don't get the sense this is
about fun. This is people spending their heart on money
because they expected actual results to come out of this exploitation.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Yeah, because it kind of answers that question. Every time
I drive past those psychia psychic shops and it looks
like they're out of somebody's house, I'm like, how much
money could they actually be making? But then I hear
stuff like this, and I'm like, yeah, they're probably doing okay.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
They're probably doing okay. But if someone actually could do
the things that they're alleging to do, they wouldn't be
in their house, they wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
They would be making all sorts of money.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'd be selling spells left and right. I'll be putting
curses and hexes on all the people i'd dislock, just
like I would be making sure that Mark had a
bad day every day. I have a little I'll have
a voodoo doll, and I'd be sticking in with pins
stop just because stop that, just to mess with Mark.
It'd be funny to see him like jumping in the head.
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It's like Marko Company is like, my back is hurting
for some reason. I don't know, it's just something happened
last night. And I'll just have a voodoo doll that
I I'd hold up with a pin in its back.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Keep trying, you gotta try harder. I know. Look, people
actually pay for this stuff, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I think no self respecting authentic practitioner of the dark
arts or light arts or whatever you want to call
them would put their things on Etsy unless they were
trying to just make a quick book.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And you know, I guess it. Real stuff is on there.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, and this is a KTLA story. They do talk
about psychics and how they will perform readings. Sometimes they
get it right, sometimes they get it wrong. I remember
my mother and my sister went to see a psyche,
but they went to it for an entertainment. They weren't
expecting much out of it. And there was some things
that we said were like, wow, that was pretty spot on,
very specific. It made you think for a second that wow,
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they might have known some things. But it's not like
you go in banking on that. It's it's for entertainment purposes.
I just I don't get it. And the last thing
I would do is go to Etsy for a soulmate
drawing for twenty four dollars. Yeah, I wouldn't even tell
people that. It's like you spent twenty four dollars to
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do what I do? What you did, what I did?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I just don't get it. Now, have you ever had
a reading before?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
And I don't want to have one. That kind of
gives me the creeps. And I'm a believer in a
lot of stuff. Oh you know, I'm a George Nori listener, right,
you and me, both, you and I both. But I
am not interested in getting a reading for fear that
they may say something that is too specific. I just
don't want.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I just well, there's a lot of bad news in life,
and they're just gonna give me the good news, and
I know they can't be legit. I will say this
to be absolutely serious. I do believe that there is
far more in this world which is beyond our present
level of understanding. Some people may call that supernatural, some
people may call that magic, some people may call that
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aliens whatever. I'm just saying, in our limited understanding of
this world, we've only had technology, honestly for a good
hundred years or so. Our period of enlightenment is a
very very small window. Okay, it wasn't too long ago
that we couldn't even figure out antibiotics.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Okay, we don't know everything as a species.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I say that to say there's plenty we don't know,
and I don't rule out everything, but the things I
will rule out, it'll be exit.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And as he's not in that world.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
And to Tiffany's point, you know, if they say something negative,
even if it's not sure, you don't see it coming
around the corner. You're kind of like, it's kind of
like bad juju. You're kind of putting that negative thought
out there. Yes, and it's kind of like the secret.
So you put out positive, you're gonna get something back.
So you know that kind of it'll mess with your mind.
So I can see why she wouldn't or why you
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wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
The only time I got a reading from me, and
I do remember, it was, and to be fair, in
a general sense, it was correct. It was at a
Warner Brothers Records holiday party and they had someone doing
psychic creatings, and I sat down and gave.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Her my hand.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Did the hand and talked about my life and this
is the year two thousand and she looked me right
in the eye and said, I don't know exactly what
it is, but you're getting ready to make a major
career change. It's going to change your life. It's going
to be major, just like you're not going to have
to wonder whether it's it. It's going to be that.
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And it was maybe a year and a half later
I got into radio.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
And see some would say a year and a half
later is not it's a small enough window to attribute
it to the psychic, but maybe.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But my point is it fundamentally changed the rest of
my life, life, everything, everything, because I was working in
music industry. Next thing you know, I'm on the path
for what I'm doing now. Having no idea back in
the year two thousand, I never thought of being an
on air personality in a talk radio sense.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Maybe in music radio.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Possibly that was more of a shorter leap than talk radio.
I listened to talk radio. I didn't think I would
be in talk radio.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
But I mean, the psychic at that point could have
said you're going to make a major leap in your career,
and it could have turned out obviously in a different way.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And that leap is subjective.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
So it is because I quit my job, that job
like maybe six months later.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So is it a psychic I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I should go to Etsy and ask no.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I should go to George Nori and ask him when
we come back, have you had any life changing fortune cookies?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
No, I can say say, okay, because the fortune cookies.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Are always super super vague and always positive.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
That's how I know they're full of isha. My life
is not super super positive. Bad stuff happens. It's like,
it's not even a fortune cookie anymore. If I go
to Panda Express, sorry, but you're the ones like yet
when I go to Panda Express, it's not even a
fortune it says stuff like when you walk into a room,
you light up the room, or.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It's not a fortune. Yeah, it's not, or or like
an instruction.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
It will be like, you know, not this, not this direct,
but like something like you know, straightened up in life
or something like yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It's like what am I supposed to do with that?
What does does that mean?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
That?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
A like a you know, I'm gonna get hit by
a bus if I don't straighten up? What does that mean? Yeah,
it's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Will check in with George Norri and find out what's
going on with Coast Coast AM when we come back.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
k if I Am six forty.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
K if I Am six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
You know what's coming up next? It's Coast to Coast
AM with George Nori. Can he joins me now with
a quick preview.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Hey, George moh You've got a pretty lively discussion going
on there.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I think you probably could add to it very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
You heard us talking about the idea of the supernatural
and where it begins and ends, the people who are
legit and the people who are just Charlotte San's where
do you come out on that.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
We've had some great psychics and we've had some that
weren't so good, but we've tried to bet them out
and do the best we can. But there's some of
them that are pretty pretty uncanny with their accuracy.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, I'm a firm believer before I lets you go,
I'm a firm believer that this world is beyond our
understanding in many aspects, we have yet to catch up
with all of its mysteries.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Where do you come out on that?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
So true? On that move, so true on that? And
on the program tonight we're going to talk about neural
links of the brain, and then spiritual warriors. We've got
it all on coaching.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Hey, there we go. That's why I'm listening on my
way home.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
And we found a dream person for you. You'll beginning
calls soon.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Please please make sure Stephan, our technical director, gets the information. Okay,
talk soon. And sometimes I don't think people believe me.
I sometimes, yes, I'm putting on an act. This is performance,
But most of the time I'm being absolutely serious. If
you'd say I love talking about UFOs, it's for real
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because I believe in the mathematical certainty that we're not
the only sentient beings in this vastness we call the universe.
I'm positive. And we talked about the Fermi paradox as
far as whether we've not run into aliens per se,
because we're existing in different times and points in history
(28:39):
and location where we haven't overlapped. Our civilization is very
very young comparatively speaking. But I believe there's so much
more beyond our understanding, beyond our experiences, beyond our knowledge,
and we've only scratched a surface, and people say, like,
are you serious about I'm absolutely serious.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I feel like if the world's leading scientists, people who
this is their entire life, this is their career, they
are more studied and more accomplished than anyone else on
the planet in this field, If they all collectively can
say that and agree with you, then who are we
to say that it's not true?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
And I'm not saying that everything that everyone says or
alleges is factually accurate or believable, you know, Like I
was saying to you Tiffany off Air, It's like, look,
there's certain things that I've felt and experience and I
can't say it's my late grandmother, you know, in the house,
I don't know what it is, but I know that
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there's more that we don't know than what we do know.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
When a quick little story old apartment I lived in,
I just moved in and I was on the second
floor of two floors. There was a six plex and
person who lived below me had occupied my unit prior
to me moving in. She'd lived there for twenty three
or thirty years. And you know, I was in the
unit one day and I don't smoke anything meat included, Okay,
(30:01):
I smoke nothing, and I was getting this overwhelming smell
of cigarette smoke. No one in the building smoked, no
one around the building was actively smoking. This went on
for a couple of days, and on the second or
third day, because it was so overwhelmingly strong, I wanted
to go downstairs and you know, kind of wedgeic or complain, right,
(30:23):
who's doing this?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I got to figure this out? I didn't. I just
kind of stayed put.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
And then I started hearing whistling, random whistling, and it
wasn't coming from outside. It was coming from It's coming
from inside the out you know, inside the house. Someone's
whistling and I would turn around and the whistling would
go away, and it was faint, it was loudest, kind
of playing with my mind. Well, I decided to go
downstairs and I talked to the tenant below me and
I said, hey, just a hunch. You lived here for
(30:49):
thirty years? She said yes. I said, did anyone pass
away during that time? And she said, yeah, my father did.
I said, was he a smoker. She said, yes, he
used to smoke a pipe all the time. I said,
did he used to whistle? And she's like she her heart.
She kind of went white, put her hand over her mouth,
(31:10):
and she said, yes all the time. And I did
the whistle and she said, that's exactly what it sounded like.
I said, well, can you tell your dad to leave
me alone, to get out the apartment? You're downstairs, leave
me alone? But how can you explain that I'm not
a psychic, although I play one on radio.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, I remember I lived when I lived in Studio City,
I lived at this place. It was forty two point
fifty Coldwater Canyon unit I think one oh four if
I remember correctly. And this is the only time I
ever felt it. I felt when I was going to sleep,
just in my bedroom, that there was someone always watching me.
You can feel a presence. Never felt it at any
(31:49):
other place in my life, at any other time in
my life. It just felt like that someone was there.
If I were to make a guess, it felt like
my father's mother. Oh, it felt like there's a familiarity
of the presence. I never felt afraid. There were times
I just rollovers, like what what is it you want?
What is he trying to communicate? Because it was habitual,
(32:13):
it was consistent, and it was only in that one
place of the apartment.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And you can't explain it. You can't explain it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, was it an alien? I don't know. Was
it my late grandmother? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
All I'm saying is I would go to my grave
swearing that there was another presence there with me, and
I have no physical evidence to corroborate it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh, I can't wait for the Halloween Show.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Which hopefully we'll be here as another live broadcast. Yeah,
we're working on I.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Have my costume ready. I told Steph, I can't tell
you it's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's only July.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
She's one of those.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm one of those.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I am six forty. We'll see you tomorrow. We're live
everywhere in the I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
kf I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Now it's.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Social media.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Facebook gets to extract.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Viral viral load, viral load.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
The viral load, Lady k if I am six forty.
It's Later with mo Kelly live on social media and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Let's get to Tiffany Hobbs and the viral load. Here
we go, good evening everyone.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
In death, there are more than a few options for
your remains or the remains of your loved ones. Of course,
you can opt into the burial plot. You can get
put into a tree pod. Of course, you can be cremated,
and if you choose cremation, there are quite a few
creative things that can be done with your ashes. Some
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people like to keep them in a conventional urn, some
people like to put them in other places. And you
can even have your ashes or part of your ashes
put into a locket to wear around your neck or
keep as a keepsake. Yes, one man found this out
kind of in a strange way, but it does have
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a really heartwarming twist. So there's a man. His name
is Thomas Flavin. He's from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and he went
to one of those pick apart salvage yards to try
and find a part for his car. And as he
was looking through parts, he came across a jeep in
the junk yard. He goes to the jeep, he inspects it,
(01:47):
he likes what he sees. I'm a jeep owner, so
shout out to Thomas Flavan for that. And what he
decided to do is he opened the door. He looked
at the dash, looked up at the rear view mirror,
and saw a lockett or a necklace hanging from the
rear view mirror. He said he originally was going to
take the necklace and give it to his daughter as
(02:08):
a gift. Interesting guy, this, Thomas Flavin must have been
a nice looking locket. But what he realized upon further
inspection of the locket is that it had a screw
top at the top of the heart or whatever the
shape was, indicating that perhaps something was inside of the
locket because it didn't open like a conventional lockett would.
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So he opened the locket and was able to glean
that there were ashes of some sort inside. What he
then did is what made the story, or what's making
the story currently go viral. He posted on Facebook and
he welcomed people to try and find the original owner
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of the lockett, not the deceased person, but anyone who
might be.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
A family member of this figure out the exactly.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
So he put an all call out using social media,
and to this date he's had thousands upon thousands of replies.
Of course, not everyone is going to be legit, but
a lot of people are there on social media wishing
him well and being really taken back by his altruistic
and compassionate response. But yeah, he's hoping the rightful owner
(03:22):
will come forward.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And if you feel you are.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
The rightful owner that you were in this salvage yard
at the Gilcrease Expressway in Tosa, Oklahoma, he's going to
Thomas Flavan is going to require you to verify the make,
model and location of the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It came from interesting story.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Maybe you can follow up on this if someone comes forward.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
And as of right, you have a lot of people
who are being silly. And you know, when you put
out an all call on social media, it's hard to
vet the responses you're going to.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
But this is a very heartwarming effort by Thomas Flaman.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Our next story a little less heartwarming.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It has to do with treatment in relationships, kind of
a barometer that's being set on social media. When women,
usually women, have this conversation about their spouses, about their
mates and the treatment that they're receiving in a relationship,
many people weigh in and say that there are certain
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markers of good treatment. That marker might be that your
spouse fills up your gas. These are these resourced from
the internet. These are not my own, so I'll just
go down the list. That filling up your car without
gas without you having to ask, is a marker of
a good spouse.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That opening the door for you.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's good, carrying your bags, good, paying for nail appointments, good,
bringing you coffee in bed?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
What good?
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Running errands for you where you're tired, Good, taking care
of you when you're sick, ding ding ding ding ding good.
The question that's going viral is are these acts what
you would call the bare minimum in a relationship or
are they something called princess treatment. The term princess treatment
(05:14):
is all over social media, especially if you've spent time
on TikTok. Over the last couple of weeks there's a
debate over what princess treatment in tails, and there's a
video that's gone highly viral. We're gonna play a clip
from that now from content creator Courtney Palmer, who says,
this is the only way to live.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Let's talk about princess treatment. If you're at a restaurant,
how you interact with the white staff and the hostess.
If I am at a restaurant with my husband, I
do not talk to the hostess. I do not open
many doors, and I do not order my own food.
So someone had sent me a message a couple of
weeks ago asking about like, let's say your husband drops
you off and he goes to mark the car, what
do you do or if it's raining or something like that,
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and he wants you to put your name down. And
I had a very similar situation up into me with
my husband a couple of weeks ago. I'll put her
question on the screen so you can see exactly what
she's saying. But we pulled up, me and my husband
pulled up to a restaurant and he wanted to run
in and see we didn't have a reservation. He wanted
to run in, Well, we didn't have a reservation, so
we wanted to go up and see if it was
possible for us to get in. He pulled the car
(06:18):
up at the valley station. He got I stayed in
the car. He got out of the car, told the
valet and I was going to run in and ask
a question. I'm going to leave my car here. I
sat in the car.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Well.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He ran in and asked them. They said, yeah, we
have says for you. And my husband said, okay, I'm
going to go get my wife and then I'm going
to park the car. So he comes back, al opens
my car door, walks me into the restaurant, opens the door,
and I stand and wait.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I did not make.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Eye contact with the hostess. I did not talk to her.
I waited until my husband came back. He comes back
with her.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And her jeez.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I couldn't deal with that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And she sound like a peach. She's a catch, this
Courtney palm.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
If she's happy with her husband and her husband is
happy with her, God bless everything.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Golly golly.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
And this is the debate that is raging all over
social media, led by Courtney Palmer, whose voice we just heard,
and she is saying, she is insisting that that sort
of treatment, that sort of interaction indicates that you are
being treated like a princess in your relationship and you
should accept nothing less, ladies.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
This is what she's saying.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
I'm not subscribing to Courtney Palmer, but this is all
the rage on social media.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Okay, I'm looking at a picture of her. It's like, oh,
can I be a princess? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
How can I say this without being disrespectful while on
my anniversary? I believe it is up for the couples
to decide where their comfort zone as far as level of.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Treatment. I'll give you a perfect example.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
My mother, who's listening right now, to the day my
father died, has never pumped gas. My father always did
that for her, and subsequent to that, I've done it
for my mother, But that was an understanding that they
had as a couple. My wife doesn't get down like that.
She doesn't want that type of unnecessary treatment, or at
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least in her eyes, unnecessary treatment.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think it's it's coupled by couple.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
But if you're going to tell me, Courtney, what is
the correct treatment of a woman in a relationship?
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Foh many people follow this, Courtney Palmer, Well, they're stupid too,
and they are subscribing to everything she's saying. So there
are debates I'm sure that are happening amongst households.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
She probably has an only fan page probably the world.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
What got me is is okay, just take the princess
part out of it, the fact that she had to
establish the fact that she didn't make eye contact with
the hostess.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What do you think you are?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Who do you think you are? Rude?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Like Mike Pence's wife.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
When we come back, we're gonna have a fun little
story appropriate about a new TikTok challenge that is dangerous
for teenagers. It's it's they love it they're doing. I'll
share it what it is with you. And also, if
you're a fan of ACME and Warner Brothers, you'll really
love this last viral story.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Finally, finally, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on
demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Now it's time the ral Lot with Tiffany Live on
Campies Lit with.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Mo O Kelly.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
She'll talk about the toughness on social media.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
From Alone with Tiffany Hubbs.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're still live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app and social media.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Now for part two of the Viral Lobe with Tiffany Hops.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Do you remember playing ding Dong ditch in your neighborhood?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Do I read? Did you do that more times than
I care to remember this?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Did you ever get caught?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, of course this was before they had ring
devices and everything.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
But yeah, now you have to worry about someone shooting
you too.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yes, and ding Dong Ditch has evolved. There's a new
TikTok challenge. He Instead of kids just ringing your door
bell or knocking on your door and running away before
you can open it, they're kicking on your door in
hopes of kicking it in.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, new TikTok.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Challenge is sweeping the nation with teenagers trying to kick
your door in.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Didn't someone get shot for that?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'm sure many people have tried to do that. Well.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Police are definitely saying that this new trend, of course,
is illegal and extremely dangerous. They're warning kids all around
the country. This is not central to any one part
of the United States. It's happening everywhere because it's viral,
which means it is global. Honestly, that this trend could
have deadly consequences. Of course, is not the first dangerous
(11:05):
trend that police in any area have had to deal with.
There's been many dangerous trends, including the cinnamon challenge remember
that where people ingested a huge spoonful of cinnamon, which
can be lethal if ingested improperly. And the chromebook challenge,
which I talked about if you try to ingest a chromebook,
(11:27):
that probably would be better no where people are trying
to essentially blow up their chromebooks by putting sharp devices
into the different ports. But this new TikTok challenge of
kicking people's front doors to the point where some are
actually broken down is a popular challenge.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
You're going to get shot just because obviously if you
kick the wrong door and you do damage to the door,
someone's going to think you're breaking and entering. Me personally,
I don't answer the door if I'm not expecting someone
point blank. Yeah, you could be ups man. You're gonna
leave the package there, and I know when I need
to sign for one so that I'm not answering my door.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Probably wise.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Also something that's happening which is leading people to believe
that we as a nation may not necessarily be that
wise when it comes to being able to discern between
what's fact and what's fiction.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Is a new, well not really new.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
A resurfaced photo that went viral in twenty sixteen of
what appears to be a painted tunnel on the side
of a mountain, and on the.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Side I saw.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
This is not just there's not just the tunnel by itself. No,
there's also the road Runner, the Roadrunner, our famous WB
Roadrunner painted alongside of this tunnel. The tunnel has been
painted on this wall, on this side of a mountain
to look effectively like a real, true sized tunnel that
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your car could go through. Then the the Wile in
the road Runner cartoons. The photos of this painting for
surfaced in twenty and sixteen after a driver reportedly crashed
into the wall. At the time, the damage was said
to be minor, and police treated what happened what the
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painting was as an act of vandalism. Locals labeled the
prank dangerous and genius because there were people who were
definitely enjoying the prank and people considered it to be
hyper realistic. The photos went viral. That was twenty sixteen.
That's another way you get your ass whooped too. Now
(13:47):
nine years later, these photos and the virility of the
story are anew. They are back and people are talking
about it all over social media. I saw it maybe
a couple of days ago, and people were remarking about
how realistic it looked, and oh man, that's really dangerous.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Someone's gonna get hurt.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
But the question that is also going viral is is
the painting real? Some say this entire story is a hoax.
So the claim again went viral in March of twenty sixteen.
It appeared all over the Internet, especially on the website Reddit,
which is a sharing information sharing website person to person,
(14:30):
but the story was actually proven to be false in
December of that year. The December article pinned the original
painting to Brazil, while other outlets attributed to Atlanta and
even the UK, so people didn't even know where this originated.
And what happened is word of mouth spread the story.
(14:51):
Posting spread the story, but people who were interviewed not verified.
The outlets didn't go about verifying the story ries and
the backstories they ran with the sensationalism of the photo
of this possible painting, And now that the lore is
again making the internet rounds. It's not yet been fully
(15:12):
proven to be false, so watch out for any wild
e coyotes near tunnels.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
See.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
The sad part about this is we do live in
an age where you don't know if half the stuff
you're looking at is real, if it's a real photo,
if it's a real story, if it's a real person
AI all of those things, and we will forever be skeptical,
and sometimes rightfully so, but unnecessarily so, because we doubt
(15:41):
everything everything where we can't trust for different reasons, news outlets,
we can't trust pictures that we see. We can't trust
these web portals that are posting these stories. What is
real anymore? No one really knows.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
What is real is probably the question, and stories like
this just prove how quickly something can spread and that
they can resurface almost a decade later with a brand
new audience that will make the story fresh and new again,
which is why we're talking about it on the viral load.
You can catch me Saturdays five to seven pm Saturdays
with Tiffany right here on k I AM six forty.
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We'll talk about more of this and other things as well.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Tiffy, I don't want you to go away because this
next story I want your input in because I don't
know if I purchase anything from Etsy ever, or anyone
who had it Etsy Store and purchased something from them.
So Epsy was kind of janky. Adjacent in my world
is like you get your own website, get your own
store type thing. Instead you settle for Etsy flea market ish. Yes,
(16:46):
that's a good way to describe it. But when I
see that witches, spells and soulmates digital witchcraft are a
thing on Etsy, I gotta say, oh.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Gosh, you can sell anything.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
You're confirming everything that I feared about Etsy. I want
to get your thoughts about that. It's Later with mo
Kelly caf I AM six forty. We are live everywhere
on social media and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
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Kfi AM six forty years Later with mo Kelly, We're
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I've never been a fan of Etsy. No, no shade,
per se. It's just I've never felt the need to
buy anything off of anybody's Etsy website. It's kind of
like if you're gonna be serious or be considered to
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be taken seriously. You need to have a real website.
You need to have a real online marketplace location. Etsy
just just reaped of dime.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Store to me.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
So when I see that there is a whole cottage
industry of people buying weird stuff off of Vansy, It's like, yeah,
that tracks. According to the Wall Street Journal, so called
Etsy witches are selling everything from love spells to spirit cleansings,
(18:16):
to soulmates sketches and good luck rituals, and people are
buying it. What it's weird.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I'm talking about spells.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Soulmates, good luck rituals. One popular influencer reportedly hired an
Etsy witch to ensure good weather on her wedding day,
and it turned out that ended up with clear skies.
I don't know if one had anything to do with
the other. Another Los Angeles Los Angeles creative director bought
(18:54):
a spell to help the New York Knicks supposedly win
Game five of the NBA Eastern Conference Finals in May.
The Knicks did win that game, but when he paid
for another spell ahead of Game six, they lost. I
need to get on etc. And just start selling bs
so it works. No, no, no, no, there's.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Correlation is not causation. Okay, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Let's say I sold you a spell where you're going
to come into money tomorrow, and let's say you bought
a lottery ticket and you won one hundred dollars. I
would say that's correlation. But I can, I can. I
can guarantee you that I had nothing to do with that.
I did not cause that. I don't have have powers
like that, And I promise you if I could sell spells,
(19:39):
I would be doing.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Something else other than radio, that's for sure.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I think there's an element of confirmation bias with this
as well, because if you're looking for the result, you're
looking for the you know, the thing that you're paying for,
and any semblance of that happens after you've paid, you're
going to attribute it if you pay this money, this
investment you've made to that thing, that product.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I can understand people will pay for psychics, and most
people understand it's a form of entertainment.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know, I've I've had a reading.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
But if I thought that someone who was making ten
ninety nine an hour could tell me my future, they
wouldn't be making ten ninety nine an hour.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
But that's just me looking at it logically.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
But I understand you can have fun with some of
this stuff, but I don't get the sense this is
about fun. This is people spending their heart on money
because they expected actual results to come out of this exploitation.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Yeah, because it kind of answers that question. Every time
I drive past those psychia psychic shops and it looks
like they're out of somebody's house, I'm like, how much
money could they actually be making? But then I hear
stuff like this, and I'm like, yeah, they're probably doing okay.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
They're probably doing okay. But if someone actually could do
the things that they're alleging to do, they wouldn't be
in their house, they wouldn't know.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
They would be making all sorts of money.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I'd be selling spells left and right. I'll be putting
curses and hexes on all the people i'd dislock, just
like I would be making sure that Mark had a
bad day every day. I have a little I'll have
a voodoo doll, and I'd be sticking in with pins
stop just because stop that, just to mess with Mark.
It'd be funny to see him like jumping in the head.
(21:16):
It's like Marko Company is like, my back is hurting
for some reason. I don't know, it's just something happened
last night. And I'll just have a voodoo doll that
I I'd hold up with a pin in its back.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Keep trying, you gotta try harder. I know. Look, people
actually pay for this stuff, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I think no self respecting authentic practitioner of the dark
arts or light arts or whatever you want to call
them would put their things on Etsy unless they were
trying to just make a quick book.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And you know, I guess it. Real stuff is on there.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, and this is a KTLA story. They do talk
about psychics and how they will perform readings. Sometimes they
get it right, sometimes they get it wrong. I remember
my mother and my sister went to see a psyche,
but they went to it for an entertainment. They weren't
expecting much out of it. And there was some things
that we said were like, wow, that was pretty spot on,
very specific. It made you think for a second that wow,
(22:13):
they might have known some things. But it's not like
you go in banking on that. It's it's for entertainment purposes.
I just I don't get it. And the last thing
I would do is go to Etsy for a soulmate
drawing for twenty four dollars. Yeah, I wouldn't even tell
people that. It's like you spent twenty four dollars to
(22:33):
do what I do? What you did, what I did?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
What?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I just don't get it. Now, have you ever had
a reading before?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
And I don't want to have one. That kind of
gives me the creeps. And I'm a believer in a
lot of stuff. Oh you know, I'm a George Nori listener, right,
you and me, both, you and I both. But I
am not interested in getting a reading for fear that
they may say something that is too specific. I just
don't want.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
I just well, there's a lot of bad news in life,
and they're just gonna give me the good news, and
I know they can't be legit. I will say this
to be absolutely serious. I do believe that there is
far more in this world which is beyond our present
level of understanding. Some people may call that supernatural, some
people may call that magic, some people may call that
(23:19):
aliens whatever. I'm just saying, in our limited understanding of
this world, we've only had technology, honestly for a good
hundred years or so. Our period of enlightenment is a
very very small window. Okay, it wasn't too long ago
that we couldn't even figure out antibiotics.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Okay, we don't know everything as a species.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I say that to say there's plenty we don't know,
and I don't rule out everything, but the things I
will rule out, it'll be exit.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And as he's not in that world.
Speaker 8 (23:53):
And to Tiffany's point, you know, if they say something negative,
even if it's not sure, you don't see it coming
around the corner. You're kind of like, it's kind of
like bad juju. You're kind of putting that negative thought
out there. Yes, and it's kind of like the secret.
So you put out positive, you're gonna get something back.
So you know that kind of it'll mess with your mind.
So I can see why she wouldn't or why you
(24:14):
wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
The only time I got a reading from me, and
I do remember, it was, and to be fair, in
a general sense, it was correct. It was at a
Warner Brothers Records holiday party and they had someone doing
psychic creatings, and I sat down and gave.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Her my hand.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Did the hand and talked about my life and this
is the year two thousand and she looked me right
in the eye and said, I don't know exactly what
it is, but you're getting ready to make a major
career change. It's going to change your life. It's going
to be major, just like you're not going to have
to wonder whether it's it. It's going to be that.
(24:54):
And it was maybe a year and a half later
I got into radio.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
And see some would say a year and a half
later is not it's a small enough window to attribute
it to the psychic, but maybe.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
But my point is it fundamentally changed the rest of
my life, life, everything, everything, because I was working in
music industry. Next thing you know, I'm on the path
for what I'm doing now. Having no idea back in
the year two thousand, I never thought of being an
on air personality in a talk radio sense.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Maybe in music radio.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Possibly that was more of a shorter leap than talk radio.
I listened to talk radio. I didn't think I would
be in talk radio.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
But I mean, the psychic at that point could have
said you're going to make a major leap in your career,
and it could have turned out obviously in a different way.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And that leap is subjective.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
So it is because I quit my job, that job
like maybe six months later.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
So is it a psychic I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
I should go to Etsy and ask no.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I should go to George Nori and ask him when
we come back, have you had any life changing fortune cookies?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
No, I can say say, okay, because the fortune cookies.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Are always super super vague and always positive.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
That's how I know they're full of isha. My life
is not super super positive. Bad stuff happens. It's like,
it's not even a fortune cookie anymore. If I go
to Panda Express, sorry, but you're the ones like yet
when I go to Panda Express, it's not even a
fortune it says stuff like when you walk into a room,
you light up the room, or.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It's not a fortune. Yeah, it's not, or or like
an instruction.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
It will be like, you know, not this, not this direct,
but like something like you know, straightened up in life
or something like yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It's like what am I supposed to do with that?
What does does that mean?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
That?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
A like a you know, I'm gonna get hit by
a bus if I don't straighten up? What does that mean? Yeah,
it's Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Will check in with George Norri and find out what's
going on with Coast Coast AM when we come back.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
k if I Am six forty.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
K if I Am six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
You know what's coming up next? It's Coast to Coast
AM with George Nori. Can he joins me now with
a quick preview.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
Hey, George moh You've got a pretty lively discussion going
on there.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I think you probably could add to it very quickly.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
You heard us talking about the idea of the supernatural
and where it begins and ends, the people who are
legit and the people who are just Charlotte San's where
do you come out on that.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
We've had some great psychics and we've had some that
weren't so good, but we've tried to bet them out
and do the best we can. But there's some of
them that are pretty pretty uncanny with their accuracy.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, I'm a firm believer before I lets you go,
I'm a firm believer that this world is beyond our
understanding in many aspects, we have yet to catch up
with all of its mysteries.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Where do you come out on that?
Speaker 7 (27:40):
So true? On that move, so true on that? And
on the program tonight we're going to talk about neural
links of the brain, and then spiritual warriors. We've got
it all on coaching.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Hey, there we go. That's why I'm listening on my
way home.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
And we found a dream person for you. You'll beginning
calls soon.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Please please make sure Stephan, our technical director, gets the information. Okay,
talk soon. And sometimes I don't think people believe me.
I sometimes, yes, I'm putting on an act. This is performance,
But most of the time I'm being absolutely serious. If
you'd say I love talking about UFOs, it's for real
(28:17):
because I believe in the mathematical certainty that we're not
the only sentient beings in this vastness we call the universe.
I'm positive. And we talked about the Fermi paradox as
far as whether we've not run into aliens per se,
because we're existing in different times and points in history
(28:39):
and location where we haven't overlapped. Our civilization is very
very young comparatively speaking. But I believe there's so much
more beyond our understanding, beyond our experiences, beyond our knowledge,
and we've only scratched a surface, and people say, like,
are you serious about I'm absolutely serious.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I feel like if the world's leading scientists, people who
this is their entire life, this is their career, they
are more studied and more accomplished than anyone else on
the planet in this field, If they all collectively can
say that and agree with you, then who are we
to say that it's not true?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:14):
And I'm not saying that everything that everyone says or
alleges is factually accurate or believable, you know, Like I
was saying to you Tiffany off Air, It's like, look,
there's certain things that I've felt and experience and I
can't say it's my late grandmother, you know, in the house,
I don't know what it is, but I know that
(29:34):
there's more that we don't know than what we do know.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
When a quick little story old apartment I lived in,
I just moved in and I was on the second
floor of two floors. There was a six plex and
person who lived below me had occupied my unit prior
to me moving in. She'd lived there for twenty three
or thirty years. And you know, I was in the
unit one day and I don't smoke anything meat included, Okay,
(30:01):
I smoke nothing, and I was getting this overwhelming smell
of cigarette smoke. No one in the building smoked, no
one around the building was actively smoking. This went on
for a couple of days, and on the second or
third day, because it was so overwhelmingly strong, I wanted
to go downstairs and you know, kind of wedgeic or complain, right,
(30:23):
who's doing this?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I got to figure this out? I didn't. I just
kind of stayed put.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
And then I started hearing whistling, random whistling, and it
wasn't coming from outside. It was coming from It's coming
from inside the out you know, inside the house. Someone's
whistling and I would turn around and the whistling would
go away, and it was faint, it was loudest, kind
of playing with my mind. Well, I decided to go
downstairs and I talked to the tenant below me and
I said, hey, just a hunch. You lived here for
(30:49):
thirty years? She said yes. I said, did anyone pass
away during that time? And she said, yeah, my father did.
I said, was he a smoker. She said, yes, he
used to smoke a pipe all the time. I said,
did he used to whistle? And she's like she her heart.
She kind of went white, put her hand over her mouth,
(31:10):
and she said, yes all the time. And I did
the whistle and she said, that's exactly what it sounded like.
I said, well, can you tell your dad to leave
me alone, to get out the apartment? You're downstairs, leave
me alone? But how can you explain that I'm not
a psychic, although I play one on radio.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, I remember I lived when I lived in Studio City,
I lived at this place. It was forty two point
fifty Coldwater Canyon unit I think one oh four if
I remember correctly. And this is the only time I
ever felt it. I felt when I was going to sleep,
just in my bedroom, that there was someone always watching me.
You can feel a presence. Never felt it at any
(31:49):
other place in my life, at any other time in
my life. It just felt like that someone was there.
If I were to make a guess, it felt like
my father's mother. Oh, it felt like there's a familiarity
of the presence. I never felt afraid. There were times
I just rollovers, like what what is it you want?
What is he trying to communicate? Because it was habitual,
(32:13):
it was consistent, and it was only in that one
place of the apartment.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
And you can't explain it. You can't explain it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, was it an alien? I don't know. Was
it my late grandmother? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
All I'm saying is I would go to my grave
swearing that there was another presence there with me, and
I have no physical evidence to corroborate it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh, I can't wait for the Halloween Show.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Which hopefully we'll be here as another live broadcast. Yeah,
we're working on I.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Have my costume ready. I told Steph, I can't tell
you it's going to be great.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's only July.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
She's one of those.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm one of those.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I am six forty. We'll see you tomorrow. We're live
everywhere in the I Heart Radio app.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty
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