July 24, 2025 • 32 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – In-depth analysis of the most viral stories of the week in ‘The Viral Load’ with regular guest contributor Tiffany Hobbs weighing in on everything from the latest TikTok food trend of chugging gigantic coffee buckets, ‘sharenting,’ and a male hiker’s viral videos asking women to hike with him…PLUS - Safety tips for Women taking Uber - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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K if I am six forty. It's time for tiffy
hobbs and a viral load.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Okay, So I'm not a big coffee drinker some of you,
maybe I enjoy other things. But for those people who
are really really into their coffee, I have some good
news for you. For those of us who might feel
a little frustrated by coffee drinkers, then this will be
the bane of our existence.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And here's why.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
There's a new trend in the coffee world that's going viral.
It's all over TikTok and now of course it's made
its way to other social media platforms.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And what is it.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
It is a gigantic bucket of coffee. Let me explain.
Back in two thousand and just a few months ago
in May, actually there was a TikTok creator who goes
by the name of Cowgirl Barista. She owns a coffee
bar called, appropriately the Cowgirl Barista Coffee Shop, and she
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decided to market and see just how successful a literal
bucket of coffee might become. So she went to home
Depot or Low's, and she kind of got those little
mini buckets, actual literal buckets that are about thirty four ounces.
She filled it with iced coffee, put it up for
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sale at her coffee bar for about ten dollars, of course,
with add ons a little bit more, and we decided
to see just how well they would sell. Well, they sold,
and they sold in droves, and people came from all
over to buy this literal bucket of coffee that is
comprised of six shots of espresso topped with ice and milk.
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And of course people are for one person. People are
adding and subtracting as they wish shots for one person,
shots of espresso, ice, milk, and other things. And because
things were going so well, the cowgirl barista used social
media to market and her posts started going viral because
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people were completely into this new phenomenon she calls it
the coffee bucket, and other cafes and other coffee shops
around the country have now started to cash in on
what was a viral craze and is now seemingly turning
into a possible additional option for ordering. People are even
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crossing state lines to get coffee where their state may
not have it, and it's just blowing up all over
the place. People are commenting saying that they traveled near
and far, they traveled this distance their contests to see
who traveled the furthest to get to this particular coffee shop,
and the literal bucket of coffee maybe coming to your
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local coffee house before you know it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, this would be good for Twalla because you didn't
do Starbucks. So what's the name of this place?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, this one is called the Cowgirl Barista Coffee Shop,
but the bucket of coffee is starting to pop up
in different cafes all around southern California.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I think we should start our own coffee house. Called
it the reverse Cowgirl.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Don't do it stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
That was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, if you like that one.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Moving away from coffee, the next three stories are all
going to involve people who have essentially overshared on social media,
so we'll start with this one. A question was asked
on social media across threads, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, x everywhere,
and that question is, what's the secret that could literally
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ruin your life?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
If it came out.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh gosh, I got so many at they're at least
fifty yeah, no, no exaggeration, at least fifty.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
While you might be acting in earnest and wanting to
be honest about your answer, MO, people took that question
and turned it into a running joke. Here are some
of the answers hell that have become popular across social media.
So again, the question is, what's the secret that could
literally ruin your life if it came out? One person said,
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I once returned a VHS cassette to Blockbuster without rewinding it.
Another person said, three different people have shown me how
to play spades, and I still don't know how to play.
Another person said, and I'll come back to you. I too,
am sleeping with the CEO of Astronomer. What were you
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gonna say, mom?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Not a damn thing?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Another thing. Another person to say, those are tame, These
are tape. I have a few more.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I know Mark has more than me, but those are tamed. No,
I love the Astronomer jokes. That's not going to get
old for a.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
While yet, right exactly Continuing, one person said, my wife
doesn't know that I'm really three raccoons in a trench coat.
Another person said, I never paid for my Columbia House CDs.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
These are dud, but you know that was nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
You guys would definitely appreciate this. Even though I'm an orphan.
I use my family's fortune to fight crime at night.
You guys know that one.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, okay, batman.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
And then I wear a green ribbon around my neck
like a choker at all times because if I don't,
my head will fall off.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, no, one, that's that's not a secret. I mean
that sounds like a fetish. Yeah, I was actually getting
turned on for a moment.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Moving along, It still haunts me what I did for
that klondyke bar.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I'm yeah, like that. That's a good one. What would
you do for a klondyke bar?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And rounding out my list of my favorite responses to
the question of what's the secret that could literally ruin
your life if it came out? When I was a nanny,
I used the rich family's curtains to make summer clothing
for the children.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Those aren't secrets. I'm not going to speak for anyone else.
I got a lot of stuff I'm taking to the
grave with me.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
As are these people? Ah, I would you even ask that?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
There's just some things that I appreciate getting older as
the memories fade. Yes, I can legitimately not remember some
of the stuff that I've done in my life that
I'm not proud of.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Some of which I am proud of, I just don't
want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
They didn't want to share either, so they came up
with fun alternatives in hopes that they might go viral,
and all of these answers did. When we come back
on the other side of the viral load, we're going
to talk about sharonting.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Sharoning sounds like parenting. No, this is called sharoning.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Is it kind of like swingen?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Not?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, maybe depend In.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
This case, it happens to deal with how oversharing on
social media can actually harm children.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh. Absolutely, so there can't wait for that.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
There's a viral story about that.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And then the final viral story will be a hiker
in Washington who asked to meet women to hike with
in a viral Facebook post.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
The answers he got st up very fun to share.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
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Have you ever heard of the term charonting?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Charonting.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, there's parenting, which is common, normal, pretty benign, and
then there's charanting.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Which is the opposite.
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Given social media and how influential social media is over
all of our lives, it has made its way into
the realm of parenting because parents are being a used
validly of over sharing the minutia and other sorts of
details of their children's lives.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Let me jump in.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
There is that a function of them growing up in
the world of social media and they just continue into
their parenting lives just sharing everything.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yes, and there are the others who existed pre social
media as well, say north of forty, who are using
social media as a digital kind of photo album or
digital kind of video tape. We don't tape our moments anymore.
We upload them and we share them, and that's where
they seem to live in perpetuity or until at least
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you change to another social media platform. But they're always there,
which causes the issue of sharenting, according to psychologists, to
be very dangerous when it comes to children.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Here's why.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Psychologists are saying that sharanting can actually shape the social
media identity of care kids before they even have social media.
Case in point, perhaps you have a friend on your
social media who shares every detail about their child as
they're growing up. When the child becomes of age and
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wants to get involved in the world in their own way,
if their image does not align with how their parent
or parents have presented them for the preceding thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen years, because social media has now been around for
twenty five plus years twenty plus years. If the images
do not align, then the damage could be done to
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that child's identity because we know them, we the audience
know them as this way, but the child wants to
carve their own identity. Psychologists are also saying that when asked,
kids are saying they don't want their parents to share
about them.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They don't want to be posted.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm so glad they didn't have social media when I
was a child because my parents, especially my mother, will
love to tell all my business.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah you know, tell failing. Did I tell you about
what my son did?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
All the embarrassing stuff. It's like, mommy, stop.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
And they the parents think it's pretty innocuous or benign
because it's just sharing their child's moments. But the kids,
the kids are saying, hey, my friends in some cases
are using your social media mom and dad and getting
pictures that you've posted that are embarrassing and using those
pictures to then blackmail me, harass me, whatever it may be,
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because the content is now online. So sharonting is the
newest one of the newest terms in the world of
parenting that's being discussed at a viral level. Very interesting.
Our final story for the night also deals with over sharing.
Pretty simple request. A person wants a partner to go
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hiking with. And this person happens to be thirty five
year old Jeff Heatwole from Spokane, North Idaho.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I said, Washington, but there's another Spokane.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Didn't know that, Mark, is it Spokane or Spokane?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
This is an Idaho So sparklightly Spokane. Is it Spokane
in Washington and Spokane in Idaho?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
There's no Spokane in Idaho.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
This says North Idaho here.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Now I'm just coming into the middle of this start
over with you.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Forget where the guy is from doesn't really matter.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Now, there's no Spokane or Spokane in Idaho.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It says it here in the story North Idaho.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That's insane.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Well, AnyWho moving along, I might be misreading Jeff heat
will pose the question, you know, can I find someone
to hike with me? He said, looking for women to
hike with smiley face. Put it on Facebook. Creditor put
it on Facebook in a group for hikers, and he
got a myriad of responses, some pretty tame and others
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who use the opportunity with the question, with the request
to concoc outlandish tales of their hikes with Jeff. One
person said, I was mauled by a bear up in
the mountains. Jeff chased off the bear, then cradled my
bloody head and whispered lullabies as I died peacefully.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Ten out of ten would hike with him again if
I hadn't died on that mountain. Another person said hey,
went on a hike with Jeff. He showed up in
a fleece that said safe space, Sherpa handed out, got
his fuel trail mix, and tried to lead a sharing
circle about emotional vulnerability on the mountain. Another person said,
great kisser that, Jeff. Let me tell you that was
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from Tim Balin. So the guys were even getting involved.
This doesn't sound like Spokane to me, No, sure doesn't.
Doesn't even sound like a dude. It's like it just
seems like a ploy to get some women interested in hit.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's what it was.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
And it went completely left because people looked at the
ploy and said, you know what, We'll take your ploy
and we'll see and we'll match it, and we'll just
completely obliterated. Another comment by Jessica said, hey, Jeff, I'm
still tied to the tree. Are you ever coming back?
So the comments continued. Jeff took it all in stride.
He said he originally posted the request because he was
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dealing with some mental health issues feeling lonely.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Don't do that feeling lonely, and this was a great
distraction and a pick me up for him.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
He said he did get some invitations and he has
or some acceptance, and he has gone on a few
hikes with some of these women from that Facebook group.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It's like some random guys say, I'm lonely when I drive.
Are there any hitchhikers out there?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
No skin?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, light up you guys. These are just you know,
fun little way social.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
No, No, there's an invitation to end up dead.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, that person said they were dead, but it still
was a ten out of experience.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You should also know that that area has way more
than its fair share of serial killers.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And that's the was anyone not paying attention to the
news today who got a sentence?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh coburger, that's right. Where was that? Well, he wasn't
a serial killer, but your point's taken.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Three or more as serial It was four all in
one go, three or more by definition.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Okay, he killed people, I know that's all that matters. Okay,
there's there's a lot of that in that area, one
way or the other.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the viral oath this week.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
A lot of you know, fun strange folks. Keep your
secrets to yourself, don't post about your kids all the
damn time, and don't ask for strangers to go hiking
with you.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Do you think your mom would have just aired all
your yes seriously around My mother and she's probably listening
right now or watching YouTube.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
She knows this is true. Do not tell her a secret?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Do not?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Because she told me? You know, it's like, well, she said,
I would ask her, lie, why did you tell aunt
Raven that? Well, if I can't tell her, who can
I tell? How about nobody? Just because something happened to
me in school doesn't mean.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You have to tell every damn body everybody.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And because they would greet you with that, it's like, oh,
it's so good to see you. I'm so sorry to
hear about what happened in school. I didn't tell you that,
aunt Raven.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And now it's online for your mom and her five
thousand friends.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
But it works both ways, and she would got this.
It's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
How they do you, you know they do other people,
and she would gossip about everyone else in the family.
Did you know that Uncle Biff is having problems with
his thing thing and he and aunt ravening. Yeah, it's
like they've been having problems and you know, he just
isn't able to perform anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Truth. Sorry, oh god.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And I said, and I'm thinking, I'm like, I'm late teens,
I think early twenties. I said, mommy, and I call
her mommy. It's like, mommy, min the hell are you
telling me that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And what does she say?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
If I can't tell you, who can I tell?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, sharante.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So who does she tell? She tells everyone one. Yeah,
don't tell my mother anything. Yeah, but how's uncle this
thing thing?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Uncle Biff unfortunately has been dead for about fifteen years now.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
So the problem's resolved. It's one way to look at it.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, if you're under if you're dead, what's the what's
the fun phrase that people are?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
The fun thing? That people will call you, they'll call.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You a stiffy.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
If I am sixty were alive everywhere in the iHeart
where you at? Was that for her?
Speaker 6 (17:37):
For me?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Because I set it up. That's a shared one. She
set it up, but you spiked it. So that's fair.
Right now, I got a half a rim shot. It's
more than you deserve. Let's move on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
Camb I AM six forty It's later with Mo Kelly
and Tiffany Hobbs. I wanted you to stay around for
one more moment because I wanted to circle back to
something we were discussing earlier.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Earlier in the show, we were discussing Uber in this new.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Feature where female writers would have the option to request
a female driver. Unknownst to me, we had a Uber
female driver in studio who didn't want to tell us.
But that's I won't bring up old stuff. I won't
restart that argument. But as a woman who has used Uber,
sure what comes into your mind? What are some of
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the decisions that you're making as far as when you're
going to use Uber?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Doesn't matter whether it's a man or a woman who's
your driver so forth.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I think I used the same kind of discernment with
any person who shows up to provide me that ride.
I definitely make sure that they appear to be of
sound mind. And it's hard to kind of glean that
information so quickly because you don't have that much time
to figure it all out, and you're not going to
get everything from you know, a quick glimpse into the
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front seat. But I definitely pause a bit more if
it's a male who pops up as a responding potential
driver because of all of the stories that have circulated
around social media.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And the news and what have you.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
But I one of those people who is always kind
of ready for anything and looking for the exit route
for any circumstance. So I get in the back, I
pay attention to my circumstances and my surroundings, and if
the person starts to make me feel uncomfortable in any way,
then I'm pretty assertive, you know, I can, I can,
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you can kind of tell and tell. Yeah, I haven't
gotten to that point, knock on wood. But if I
remember one of my earliest rides years and years ago,
the guy started flirting a little bit, just a little bit,
and you redirect the conversation so that it stops, you know.
But those sorts of things can immediately make people feel uncomfortable.
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And I'm one of those people again who feels like
they can kind of take anyone And Mo, you might
be like that too, where I feel like, you know,
if it comes to me, I can handle it. I
can take someone down. If I know that's actually well,
you know, I've never had to do that. I don't
see confrontations. But I think women, by virtue of being women,
are always primed for confrontation because we feel that it
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is a likelihood if the situation should go awry. You know,
not necessarily a win every time, but if it goes awry,
how can I disarm this person? I don't think that
when I have a female driver. I've had female drivers,
But when it's a male driver, my mind goes to,
if this goes awry, if he takes a different turn,
how can I get out of this situation. So there's
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an anxiety that just comes with it because of everything
you've heard.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That's fair and that's not an anxiety I think most
men experience in the way talking about anxiety. When when
I'm lit up by law enforcement behind my car, there's
an anxiety that I will have that other people just
don't have. And that has to do with experiences that
it has to do with belief systems, that has to
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do with a number of things. But you know, I've
never been in a woman's shoes, so I can't even
imagine what that anxiety would be.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
It's present. It is a way in which we protect ourselves.
That's what anxiety is. Being a little less comfortable so
that you don't become complacent.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Or complicit in something. But it is different.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Writing during the daytime with friends or even by yourself
versus writing at night brings another element.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And to speak to your point, Tiff, I get like
a little shock of anxiety if I actually do miss
a turn, but I will very vocally say my bad,
I'm turning around. Let me fix this right away, because
I don't want them to think just like what you're
thinking that you know you're trying to like discrepancy. Yeah,
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so I immediately let them know, like, oh, I didn't
see the stream, especially if I don't know the area,
you know, it is possible.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, so I let them know you know about that too.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And the other thing I wanted to mention, which I
don't know how you do it, but lately when I've
been getting rides sometimes well usually with women, it'll say
so and so is going to record for their safety.
So I don't know how that's even done, but it's
a way to protect themselves. So that's out there, just
you know, to let people know, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And also what I do and stuff.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
What I do is if I I don't I don't
use ride share too often domestically.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But if I'm out of town, that is where we
force on it, right, Not yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I will send my information to as many people as
possible to make sure that they know the car I'm in,
the person, you know all the pertinent details. More so
when I'm with a male driver than when I'm with
a female driver. Female driver, I might lapse a little bit.
I'll still do it, but male driver, it is a
non negotiable I have to do it.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
See.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I appreciate that because it's a different vantage point that
most men, I would say just about all men don't
even actively consider when you get in that car. You're
not necessarily actively thinking about am I in danger?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Possibly?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Ben, I don't think are wired that way because we
just kind of blithely walk through life.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And isn't that terrible? Not that can be wired for that,
but that we are primed as women.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
No, And I try to and I try to remind
myself that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Not to invalidate other people's concerns and fears, because I
hate when people do it to mine. I really do.
It's like, and I use the law enforcement comparison, because
our experiences are real. Our fears may be sometimes unfounded,
but what we have experience can't be debated in the
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sense of you can't be discounted. I think that's the
better word, and I try to be consistent in that regard.
You know, just because I haven't experienced something, it does
not mean that it's invalid or it does not exist.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That's why so many women choose the bear great point.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's Later with mo Kelly when we come back. I
have a letter to read from a listener, specifically directed
at Mark Ronner for something that he said earlier tonight,
and it comes from listener Peter Schuster. So I hope, hopefully,
Peter you're still listening. I got your Instagram message and
I'm going to read it edited on air, and it
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takes Mark Ronner to task, and then Mark will be
able to respond to in the show that's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And I'm going to close out tonight with a letter
from a listener.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's really long, so I can't read all of it,
but it's addressed specifically to comments that Mark Ronner made
earlier in the show regarding Jeff Bezos and Amazon. Mark
was very, very passionate in his dislike. So this comes
from listener Peter Schuster. It listens first and last night.
Don't know where he's from, but he was kind enough
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to send it to me, so I'm gonna read it
on air. It says, please don't keep letting Mark spread disinformation.
Here are the facts on Jeff Bezos' charity efforts. Jeff
Bezos is actively involved in philanthropy through various initiatives, including
the Bezos Earth Fund and the Bezos Day One Fund.
The Bezos Earth Fund, established with a ten billion dollar commitment,
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focuses on fighting climate change protecting nature, according to the
Bezos Earth Fund website and the website would Never Lie.
The Bezos Day One Fund, co founded by Bezos and
his then wife Mackenzie Scott, addresses homelessness in education with
a focus on creating and supporting tuition free preschools and
underserved communities. The Bezos Earth Fund, established with a ten
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billion dollar commitment, aims to fight climate change and protect
nature and disperses funds by twenty thirty. And it goes
on and lists all these things that the Amazon community.
Investments include donations of goods and casts to support local
communities with basic needs like food, shelter, and goods for
children and families, according to about Amazon, So basically he's
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copy and pasting from the various websites. But his point
is Jeff Bezos and Amazon are not as evil if
I can paraphrase as you make them out to be,
Mark Ronner.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Listen, if you can afford your own rocket ship for
joy rides, you can do more for your neighbors and
your employees who have to use pea bottles because you
don't let him take breaks. You know the main argument
that I was trying to make, because I brought up
the example of Andrew Carnegie, who is the Jeff Bezos
of his time. He gave us libraries all across the country,
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and I bet he only had a fraction of what
Bezos has.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
And Musk.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Let's add Elon Musk into this as well. What kind
of a person could be so rich that you couldn't
spend all your money in ten lifetimes, but you still
got to step over homeless people to get to your office.
This is about basic human decency, and our sense of
public good has diminished so far it's almost extinct. So
make that argument to somebody else who will buy it.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I I'm going to actually agree with you on that point, Mark,
because I don't feel the need to defend billionaires.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
For this reason.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Billionaires have enough money to let their work speak for itself.
I don't need to speak for them, and the fullness
of Elon Musk's record and the fullness of Jeff bezos
records will speak for them. And given what Peter listed
in the email, I'm more inclined to believe what Mark
is saying, not that Jeff Bezos doesn't do good with
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his money, but isn't is it commiserate with his resources?
Is it comparable and consistent with his largess that we're
talking about the amount of money he has. It's almost
like you want to put it in terms of tithing,
you know. It's like, I'm not saying that he doesn't,
you know, contribute to church. I'm saying, but given how
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well or how much he's blessed, is it consistent with that?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And I think that's a fair question. And Mark makes
the argument, and let him speak for himself. But I
get the sense he's making the arguments like, dude, you
could be doing so much more.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Well, just imagine if you or I had that kind
of money and we saw people who needed help, we
wouldn't turn the blind eye to them.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ever, I know for a fact, and there's no doubt
in my mind, if I had the money of Elon Musk.
And since I'm not wired like Elon Musk, I will
never have the money like Elon Musk. But if I did,
for some reason, I would change the world. Forty four
billion dollars would never go to a freaking social media
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site purchase exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And this isn't even a right left thing. It's actually
quite a Christian thing. It actually is. But you have
to make the distinction. And I say this as a Christian.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Christianity in the United States is more a statement of
your politics than your beliefs and how you live. When
I see Christian on someone's social media profile, I know
that they're telling me about their politics, not who they serve.
And it's a huge difference. Well, and that's the exact
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opposite of what Christ told people. He told people to
go pray in a closet, don't do it in public's hypocrits. Now,
I'm not the most religious person in the world, but
I do think that if more people who claim to
be Christians acted like him, the world would be a
far better place. And a lot of them, don't you
notice if you follow me marking my arguments with people,
I often get into these arguments where they want to
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say that this is a Christian nation. It's like, no,
there's no mention of Jesus Christ Christian. There's no mention
of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
And our founding fathers explicitly intended for the United States
not to be a Christian nation or a theocracy of
any kind.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
We were kind of running from that, if I got
my history correct. Not only were we running from that,
there is no explicit mention of Jesus Christ or God
per se in a Christian sense, a Christian God, in
either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. But it
is now being used as a political cudgel to say
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this is how I vote, or these are the individuals
who I don't like. It's a political statement, not an
actually one of religious beliefs in how you live. That's
why I don't put it on my social media profile.
If you want to have that conversation with me, we
will have that conversation, and I will go scripture for
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scripture with you. A lot of people don't know that,
but I can go scripture for scripture and we can
have some real strong conversations in an exegesis sense, in
other words, how we interpret the Bible in today's world.
But usually most people don't do that. They just say,
it's a Christian nation. What the hell are you talking
about now? I mean that, what the hell are you
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talking here?
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Exactly right, it absolutely is not, And in fact, our
founding fathers explicitly intended for it not to be a
Christian nation as much to protect religion as anything else.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Right, you know, and much of what we believe to
be true is a bastardization and more of reflection of
what we wish was true. The whole idea of having
the Ten Commandments and you know, and bringing prayer back
into school's prayer or left schools. You just can't mandate it.
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No one stopped me from praying in school. No one
stopped me from praying before I do my job. Every
single night, every single night, before I start my show,
I say, let the words my mouth and the meditation
of my heart be acceptable on thy side, Oh Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer. I don't necessarily need to
broadcast everyone else that I say that, no pun intended,
but that's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
All right, well that's impressive, but can you do The
Samuel Jackson speech from Pulp Fiction was about the path
of the right.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
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Speaker 5 (00:39):
Okay, So I'm not a big coffee drinker some of you,
maybe I enjoy other things. But for those people who
are really really into their coffee, I have some good
news for you. For those of us who might feel
a little frustrated by coffee drinkers, then this will be
the bane of our existence.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
And here's why.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
There's a new trend in the coffee world that's going viral.
It's all over TikTok and now of course it's made
its way to other social media platforms.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And what is it.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
It is a gigantic bucket of coffee. Let me explain.
Back in two thousand and just a few months ago
in May, actually there was a TikTok creator who goes
by the name of Cowgirl Barista. She owns a coffee
bar called, appropriately the Cowgirl Barista Coffee Shop, and she
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decided to market and see just how successful a literal
bucket of coffee might become. So she went to home
Depot or Low's, and she kind of got those little
mini buckets, actual literal buckets that are about thirty four ounces.
She filled it with iced coffee, put it up for
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sale at her coffee bar for about ten dollars, of course,
with add ons a little bit more, and we decided
to see just how well they would sell. Well, they sold,
and they sold in droves, and people came from all
over to buy this literal bucket of coffee that is
comprised of six shots of espresso topped with ice and milk.
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And of course people are for one person. People are
adding and subtracting as they wish shots for one person,
shots of espresso, ice, milk, and other things. And because
things were going so well, the cowgirl barista used social
media to market and her posts started going viral because
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people were completely into this new phenomenon she calls it
the coffee bucket, and other cafes and other coffee shops
around the country have now started to cash in on
what was a viral craze and is now seemingly turning
into a possible additional option for ordering. People are even
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crossing state lines to get coffee where their state may
not have it, and it's just blowing up all over
the place. People are commenting saying that they traveled near
and far, they traveled this distance their contests to see
who traveled the furthest to get to this particular coffee shop,
and the literal bucket of coffee maybe coming to your
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local coffee house before you know it.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, this would be good for Twalla because you didn't
do Starbucks. So what's the name of this place?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, this one is called the Cowgirl Barista Coffee Shop,
but the bucket of coffee is starting to pop up
in different cafes all around southern California.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I think we should start our own coffee house. Called
it the reverse Cowgirl.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Don't do it stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
That was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, if you like that one.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Moving away from coffee, the next three stories are all
going to involve people who have essentially overshared on social media,
so we'll start with this one. A question was asked
on social media across threads, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, x everywhere,
and that question is, what's the secret that could literally
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ruin your life?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
If it came out.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh gosh, I got so many at they're at least
fifty yeah, no, no exaggeration, at least fifty.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
While you might be acting in earnest and wanting to
be honest about your answer, MO, people took that question
and turned it into a running joke. Here are some
of the answers hell that have become popular across social media.
So again, the question is, what's the secret that could
literally ruin your life if it came out? One person said,
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I once returned a VHS cassette to Blockbuster without rewinding it.
Another person said, three different people have shown me how
to play spades, and I still don't know how to play.
Another person said, and I'll come back to you. I too,
am sleeping with the CEO of Astronomer. What were you
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gonna say, mom?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Not a damn thing?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Another thing. Another person to say, those are tame, These
are tape. I have a few more.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I know Mark has more than me, but those are tamed. No,
I love the Astronomer jokes. That's not going to get
old for a.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
While yet, right exactly Continuing, one person said, my wife
doesn't know that I'm really three raccoons in a trench coat.
Another person said, I never paid for my Columbia House CDs.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
These are dud, but you know that was nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
You guys would definitely appreciate this. Even though I'm an orphan.
I use my family's fortune to fight crime at night.
You guys know that one.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, okay, batman.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
And then I wear a green ribbon around my neck
like a choker at all times because if I don't,
my head will fall off.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
No, no, one, that's that's not a secret. I mean
that sounds like a fetish. Yeah, I was actually getting
turned on for a moment.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Moving along, It still haunts me what I did for
that klondyke bar.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I'm yeah, like that. That's a good one. What would
you do for a klondyke bar?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And rounding out my list of my favorite responses to
the question of what's the secret that could literally ruin
your life if it came out? When I was a nanny,
I used the rich family's curtains to make summer clothing
for the children.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Those aren't secrets. I'm not going to speak for anyone else.
I got a lot of stuff I'm taking to the
grave with me.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
As are these people? Ah, I would you even ask that?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
There's just some things that I appreciate getting older as
the memories fade. Yes, I can legitimately not remember some
of the stuff that I've done in my life that
I'm not proud of.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Some of which I am proud of, I just don't
want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
They didn't want to share either, so they came up
with fun alternatives in hopes that they might go viral,
and all of these answers did. When we come back
on the other side of the viral load, we're going
to talk about sharonting.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Sharoning sounds like parenting. No, this is called sharoning.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Is it kind of like swingen?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Not?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, maybe depend In.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
This case, it happens to deal with how oversharing on
social media can actually harm children.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Oh. Absolutely, so there can't wait for that.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
There's a viral story about that.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And then the final viral story will be a hiker
in Washington who asked to meet women to hike with
in a viral Facebook post.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
The answers he got st up very fun to share.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
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Have you ever heard of the term charonting?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Charonting.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, there's parenting, which is common, normal, pretty benign, and
then there's charanting.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Which is the opposite.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Given social media and how influential social media is over
all of our lives, it has made its way into
the realm of parenting because parents are being a used
validly of over sharing the minutia and other sorts of
details of their children's lives.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Let me jump in.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
There is that a function of them growing up in
the world of social media and they just continue into
their parenting lives just sharing everything.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Yes, and there are the others who existed pre social
media as well, say north of forty, who are using
social media as a digital kind of photo album or
digital kind of video tape. We don't tape our moments anymore.
We upload them and we share them, and that's where
they seem to live in perpetuity or until at least
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you change to another social media platform. But they're always there,
which causes the issue of sharenting, according to psychologists, to
be very dangerous when it comes to children.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Here's why.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Psychologists are saying that sharanting can actually shape the social
media identity of care kids before they even have social media.
Case in point, perhaps you have a friend on your
social media who shares every detail about their child as
they're growing up. When the child becomes of age and
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wants to get involved in the world in their own way,
if their image does not align with how their parent
or parents have presented them for the preceding thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen years, because social media has now been around for
twenty five plus years twenty plus years. If the images
do not align, then the damage could be done to
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that child's identity because we know them, we the audience
know them as this way, but the child wants to
carve their own identity. Psychologists are also saying that when asked,
kids are saying they don't want their parents to share
about them.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They don't want to be posted.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I'm so glad they didn't have social media when I
was a child because my parents, especially my mother, will
love to tell all my business.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah you know, tell failing. Did I tell you about
what my son did?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
All the embarrassing stuff. It's like, mommy, stop.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
And they the parents think it's pretty innocuous or benign
because it's just sharing their child's moments. But the kids,
the kids are saying, hey, my friends in some cases
are using your social media mom and dad and getting
pictures that you've posted that are embarrassing and using those
pictures to then blackmail me, harass me, whatever it may be,
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because the content is now online. So sharonting is the
newest one of the newest terms in the world of
parenting that's being discussed at a viral level. Very interesting.
Our final story for the night also deals with over sharing.
Pretty simple request. A person wants a partner to go
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hiking with. And this person happens to be thirty five
year old Jeff Heatwole from Spokane, North Idaho.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I said, Washington, but there's another Spokane.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Didn't know that, Mark, is it Spokane or Spokane?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
This is an Idaho So sparklightly Spokane. Is it Spokane
in Washington and Spokane in Idaho?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
There's no Spokane in Idaho.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
This says North Idaho here.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Now I'm just coming into the middle of this start
over with you.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Forget where the guy is from doesn't really matter.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Now, there's no Spokane or Spokane in Idaho.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It says it here in the story North Idaho.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
That's insane.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Well, AnyWho moving along, I might be misreading Jeff heat
will pose the question, you know, can I find someone
to hike with me? He said, looking for women to
hike with smiley face. Put it on Facebook. Creditor put
it on Facebook in a group for hikers, and he
got a myriad of responses, some pretty tame and others
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who use the opportunity with the question, with the request
to concoc outlandish tales of their hikes with Jeff. One
person said, I was mauled by a bear up in
the mountains. Jeff chased off the bear, then cradled my
bloody head and whispered lullabies as I died peacefully.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Ten out of ten would hike with him again if
I hadn't died on that mountain. Another person said hey,
went on a hike with Jeff. He showed up in
a fleece that said safe space, Sherpa handed out, got
his fuel trail mix, and tried to lead a sharing
circle about emotional vulnerability on the mountain. Another person said,
great kisser that, Jeff. Let me tell you that was
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from Tim Balin. So the guys were even getting involved.
This doesn't sound like Spokane to me, No, sure doesn't.
Doesn't even sound like a dude. It's like it just
seems like a ploy to get some women interested in hit.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's what it was.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
And it went completely left because people looked at the
ploy and said, you know what, We'll take your ploy
and we'll see and we'll match it, and we'll just
completely obliterated. Another comment by Jessica said, hey, Jeff, I'm
still tied to the tree. Are you ever coming back?
So the comments continued. Jeff took it all in stride.
He said he originally posted the request because he was
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dealing with some mental health issues feeling lonely.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Don't do that feeling lonely, and this was a great
distraction and a pick me up for him.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
He said he did get some invitations and he has
or some acceptance, and he has gone on a few
hikes with some of these women from that Facebook group.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
It's like some random guys say, I'm lonely when I drive.
Are there any hitchhikers out there?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
No skin?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, light up you guys. These are just you know,
fun little way social.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
No, No, there's an invitation to end up dead.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, that person said they were dead, but it still
was a ten out of experience.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
You should also know that that area has way more
than its fair share of serial killers.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And that's the was anyone not paying attention to the
news today who got a sentence?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Oh coburger, that's right. Where was that? Well, he wasn't
a serial killer, but your point's taken.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Three or more as serial It was four all in
one go, three or more by definition.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Okay, he killed people, I know that's all that matters. Okay,
there's there's a lot of that in that area, one
way or the other.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the viral oath this week.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
A lot of you know, fun strange folks. Keep your
secrets to yourself, don't post about your kids all the
damn time, and don't ask for strangers to go hiking
with you.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Do you think your mom would have just aired all
your yes seriously around My mother and she's probably listening
right now or watching YouTube.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
She knows this is true. Do not tell her a secret?
Speaker 6 (15:56):
Do not?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Because she told me? You know, it's like, well, she said,
I would ask her, lie, why did you tell aunt
Raven that? Well, if I can't tell her, who can
I tell? How about nobody? Just because something happened to
me in school doesn't mean.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You have to tell every damn body everybody.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And because they would greet you with that, it's like, oh,
it's so good to see you. I'm so sorry to
hear about what happened in school. I didn't tell you that,
aunt Raven.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
And now it's online for your mom and her five
thousand friends.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
But it works both ways, and she would got this.
It's one of those things.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
How they do you, you know they do other people,
and she would gossip about everyone else in the family.
Did you know that Uncle Biff is having problems with
his thing thing and he and aunt ravening. Yeah, it's
like they've been having problems and you know, he just
isn't able to perform anymore.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Truth. Sorry, oh god.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And I said, and I'm thinking, I'm like, I'm late teens,
I think early twenties. I said, mommy, and I call
her mommy. It's like, mommy, min the hell are you
telling me that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
And what does she say?
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Well?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
If I can't tell you, who can I tell?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, sharante.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So who does she tell? She tells everyone one. Yeah,
don't tell my mother anything. Yeah, but how's uncle this
thing thing?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Uncle Biff unfortunately has been dead for about fifteen years now.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
So the problem's resolved. It's one way to look at it.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yeah, if you're under if you're dead, what's the what's
the fun phrase that people are?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
The fun thing? That people will call you, they'll call.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You a stiffy.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
If I am sixty were alive everywhere in the iHeart
where you at? Was that for her?
Speaker 6 (17:37):
For me?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Because I set it up. That's a shared one. She
set it up, but you spiked it. So that's fair.
Right now, I got a half a rim shot. It's
more than you deserve. Let's move on. Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
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Camb I AM six forty It's later with Mo Kelly
and Tiffany Hobbs. I wanted you to stay around for
one more moment because I wanted to circle back to
something we were discussing earlier.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Earlier in the show, we were discussing Uber in this new.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Feature where female writers would have the option to request
a female driver. Unknownst to me, we had a Uber
female driver in studio who didn't want to tell us.
But that's I won't bring up old stuff. I won't
restart that argument. But as a woman who has used Uber,
sure what comes into your mind? What are some of
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the decisions that you're making as far as when you're
going to use Uber?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Doesn't matter whether it's a man or a woman who's
your driver so forth.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I think I used the same kind of discernment with
any person who shows up to provide me that ride.
I definitely make sure that they appear to be of
sound mind. And it's hard to kind of glean that
information so quickly because you don't have that much time
to figure it all out, and you're not going to
get everything from you know, a quick glimpse into the
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front seat. But I definitely pause a bit more if
it's a male who pops up as a responding potential
driver because of all of the stories that have circulated
around social media.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And the news and what have you.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
But I one of those people who is always kind
of ready for anything and looking for the exit route
for any circumstance. So I get in the back, I
pay attention to my circumstances and my surroundings, and if
the person starts to make me feel uncomfortable in any way,
then I'm pretty assertive, you know, I can, I can,
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you can kind of tell and tell. Yeah, I haven't
gotten to that point, knock on wood. But if I
remember one of my earliest rides years and years ago,
the guy started flirting a little bit, just a little bit,
and you redirect the conversation so that it stops, you know.
But those sorts of things can immediately make people feel uncomfortable.
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And I'm one of those people again who feels like
they can kind of take anyone And Mo, you might
be like that too, where I feel like, you know,
if it comes to me, I can handle it. I
can take someone down. If I know that's actually well,
you know, I've never had to do that. I don't
see confrontations. But I think women, by virtue of being women,
are always primed for confrontation because we feel that it
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is a likelihood if the situation should go awry. You know,
not necessarily a win every time, but if it goes awry,
how can I disarm this person? I don't think that
when I have a female driver. I've had female drivers,
But when it's a male driver, my mind goes to,
if this goes awry, if he takes a different turn,
how can I get out of this situation. So there's
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an anxiety that just comes with it because of everything
you've heard.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
That's fair and that's not an anxiety I think most
men experience in the way talking about anxiety. When when
I'm lit up by law enforcement behind my car, there's
an anxiety that I will have that other people just
don't have. And that has to do with experiences that
it has to do with belief systems, that has to
(21:30):
do with a number of things. But you know, I've
never been in a woman's shoes, so I can't even
imagine what that anxiety would be.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
It's present. It is a way in which we protect ourselves.
That's what anxiety is. Being a little less comfortable so
that you don't become complacent.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Or complicit in something. But it is different.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Writing during the daytime with friends or even by yourself
versus writing at night brings another element.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
And to speak to your point, Tiff, I get like
a little shock of anxiety if I actually do miss
a turn, but I will very vocally say my bad,
I'm turning around. Let me fix this right away, because
I don't want them to think just like what you're
thinking that you know you're trying to like discrepancy. Yeah,
(22:25):
so I immediately let them know, like, oh, I didn't
see the stream, especially if I don't know the area,
you know, it is possible.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, so I let them know you know about that too.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
And the other thing I wanted to mention, which I
don't know how you do it, but lately when I've
been getting rides sometimes well usually with women, it'll say
so and so is going to record for their safety.
So I don't know how that's even done, but it's
a way to protect themselves. So that's out there, just
you know, to let people know, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And also what I do and stuff.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
What I do is if I I don't I don't
use ride share too often domestically.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
But if I'm out of town, that is where we
force on it, right, Not yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
I will send my information to as many people as
possible to make sure that they know the car I'm in,
the person, you know all the pertinent details. More so
when I'm with a male driver than when I'm with
a female driver. Female driver, I might lapse a little bit.
I'll still do it, but male driver, it is a
non negotiable I have to do it.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
See.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I appreciate that because it's a different vantage point that
most men, I would say just about all men don't
even actively consider when you get in that car. You're
not necessarily actively thinking about am I in danger?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Possibly?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Ben, I don't think are wired that way because we
just kind of blithely walk through life.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And isn't that terrible? Not that can be wired for that,
but that we are primed as women.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
No, And I try to and I try to remind
myself that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Not to invalidate other people's concerns and fears, because I
hate when people do it to mine. I really do.
It's like, and I use the law enforcement comparison, because
our experiences are real. Our fears may be sometimes unfounded,
but what we have experience can't be debated in the
(24:24):
sense of you can't be discounted. I think that's the
better word, and I try to be consistent in that regard.
You know, just because I haven't experienced something, it does
not mean that it's invalid or it does not exist.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That's why so many women choose the bear great point.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's Later with mo Kelly when we come back. I
have a letter to read from a listener, specifically directed
at Mark Ronner for something that he said earlier tonight,
and it comes from listener Peter Schuster. So I hope, hopefully,
Peter you're still listening. I got your Instagram message and
I'm going to read it edited on air, and it
(25:01):
takes Mark Ronner to task, and then Mark will be
able to respond to in the show that's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
And I'm going to close out tonight with a letter
from a listener.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's really long, so I can't read all of it,
but it's addressed specifically to comments that Mark Ronner made
earlier in the show regarding Jeff Bezos and Amazon. Mark
was very, very passionate in his dislike. So this comes
from listener Peter Schuster. It listens first and last night.
Don't know where he's from, but he was kind enough
(25:37):
to send it to me, so I'm gonna read it
on air. It says, please don't keep letting Mark spread disinformation.
Here are the facts on Jeff Bezos' charity efforts. Jeff
Bezos is actively involved in philanthropy through various initiatives, including
the Bezos Earth Fund and the Bezos Day One Fund.
The Bezos Earth Fund, established with a ten billion dollar commitment,
(25:58):
focuses on fighting climate change protecting nature, according to the
Bezos Earth Fund website and the website would Never Lie.
The Bezos Day One Fund, co founded by Bezos and
his then wife Mackenzie Scott, addresses homelessness in education with
a focus on creating and supporting tuition free preschools and
underserved communities. The Bezos Earth Fund, established with a ten
(26:18):
billion dollar commitment, aims to fight climate change and protect
nature and disperses funds by twenty thirty. And it goes
on and lists all these things that the Amazon community.
Investments include donations of goods and casts to support local
communities with basic needs like food, shelter, and goods for
children and families, according to about Amazon, So basically he's
(26:38):
copy and pasting from the various websites. But his point
is Jeff Bezos and Amazon are not as evil if
I can paraphrase as you make them out to be,
Mark Ronner.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
Listen, if you can afford your own rocket ship for
joy rides, you can do more for your neighbors and
your employees who have to use pea bottles because you
don't let him take breaks. You know the main argument
that I was trying to make, because I brought up
the example of Andrew Carnegie, who is the Jeff Bezos
of his time. He gave us libraries all across the country,
(27:16):
and I bet he only had a fraction of what
Bezos has.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
And Musk.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Let's add Elon Musk into this as well. What kind
of a person could be so rich that you couldn't
spend all your money in ten lifetimes, but you still
got to step over homeless people to get to your office.
This is about basic human decency, and our sense of
public good has diminished so far it's almost extinct. So
make that argument to somebody else who will buy it.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I I'm going to actually agree with you on that point, Mark,
because I don't feel the need to defend billionaires.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
For this reason.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Billionaires have enough money to let their work speak for itself.
I don't need to speak for them, and the fullness
of Elon Musk's record and the fullness of Jeff bezos
records will speak for them. And given what Peter listed
in the email, I'm more inclined to believe what Mark
is saying, not that Jeff Bezos doesn't do good with
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his money, but isn't is it commiserate with his resources?
Is it comparable and consistent with his largess that we're
talking about the amount of money he has. It's almost
like you want to put it in terms of tithing,
you know. It's like, I'm not saying that he doesn't,
you know, contribute to church. I'm saying, but given how
(28:35):
well or how much he's blessed, is it consistent with that?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And I think that's a fair question. And Mark makes
the argument, and let him speak for himself. But I
get the sense he's making the arguments like, dude, you
could be doing so much more.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Well, just imagine if you or I had that kind
of money and we saw people who needed help, we
wouldn't turn the blind eye to them.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Ever, I know for a fact, and there's no doubt
in my mind, if I had the money of Elon Musk.
And since I'm not wired like Elon Musk, I will
never have the money like Elon Musk. But if I did,
for some reason, I would change the world. Forty four
billion dollars would never go to a freaking social media
(29:15):
site purchase exactly.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And this isn't even a right left thing. It's actually
quite a Christian thing. It actually is. But you have
to make the distinction. And I say this as a Christian.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Christianity in the United States is more a statement of
your politics than your beliefs and how you live. When
I see Christian on someone's social media profile, I know
that they're telling me about their politics, not who they serve.
And it's a huge difference. Well, and that's the exact
(29:48):
opposite of what Christ told people. He told people to
go pray in a closet, don't do it in public's hypocrits. Now,
I'm not the most religious person in the world, but
I do think that if more people who claim to
be Christians acted like him, the world would be a
far better place. And a lot of them, don't you
notice if you follow me marking my arguments with people,
I often get into these arguments where they want to
(30:09):
say that this is a Christian nation. It's like, no,
there's no mention of Jesus Christ Christian. There's no mention
of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
And our founding fathers explicitly intended for the United States
not to be a Christian nation or a theocracy of
any kind.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
We were kind of running from that, if I got
my history correct. Not only were we running from that,
there is no explicit mention of Jesus Christ or God
per se in a Christian sense, a Christian God, in
either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. But it
is now being used as a political cudgel to say
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this is how I vote, or these are the individuals
who I don't like. It's a political statement, not an
actually one of religious beliefs in how you live. That's
why I don't put it on my social media profile.
If you want to have that conversation with me, we
will have that conversation, and I will go scripture for
(31:07):
scripture with you. A lot of people don't know that,
but I can go scripture for scripture and we can
have some real strong conversations in an exegesis sense, in
other words, how we interpret the Bible in today's world.
But usually most people don't do that. They just say,
it's a Christian nation. What the hell are you talking
about now? I mean that, what the hell are you
(31:28):
talking here?
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Exactly right, it absolutely is not, And in fact, our
founding fathers explicitly intended for it not to be a
Christian nation as much to protect religion as anything else.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Right, you know, and much of what we believe to
be true is a bastardization and more of reflection of
what we wish was true. The whole idea of having
the Ten Commandments and you know, and bringing prayer back
into school's prayer or left schools. You just can't mandate it.
(32:03):
No one stopped me from praying in school. No one
stopped me from praying before I do my job. Every
single night, every single night, before I start my show,
I say, let the words my mouth and the meditation
of my heart be acceptable on thy side, Oh Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer. I don't necessarily need to
broadcast everyone else that I say that, no pun intended,
but that's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
All right, well that's impressive, but can you do The
Samuel Jackson speech from Pulp Fiction was about the path
of the right.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I think it is and I'll strike down. Not time
to go before I blaspheg it's later with mo Kelly.
We'll see you tomorrow, kay if. I aim six forty
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