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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Kay if I am six or forty years later with
mo Kelly well love on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the
iHeartRadio app. Let's get it going. We have a very
important uber story to tell you about. Next segment, We're
going to need the expertise of one Stephan Cavesa, who's
gonna help us navigate and maneuver through this uber controversy. Okay,
(00:42):
and it has to do with the ladies. We'll tell
you about that. And if you didn't know, California is
the home of America's most popular sports teams, Barnutt California,
home of the most popular sports teams. In spite of
the Clippers, in spite of Sorry Michael Krozer. And have
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you ever been to the Seers Burbank? The Steers right
over there in the town center. It's closing once again.
It's an institution, but it is closing. We'll tell you
why and some of the reasons and situation swirling about that.
And the biggest trial yet confirms the four day work
week makes employees happier? Did we need to have a
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study to confirm that? Here's did you ever see the
movie There's something about Mary? And there's this partner about
seven minute abs or eight minute abs, and they say, well,
what happens when someone comes along and they do seven
minute abs? Well, come on, now, if we know that
we're happy with the four day work week, what about
a three day work week?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Ooh, how about this?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wait wait wait wait wait, hear me out, hear me out.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
A two day work week.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We get work two days and sojourn for the weekend
for five days. But then if someone comes along with
the one day work week or the fully remote work week,
I don't know. I don't know, but I'm getting excited,
getting ready to go back to the movies. I'm gonna
see fantastic four First Steps. I'm gonna do it on Friday.
(02:18):
I'm gonna do it on Friday. Tuwala and Mark they
invited me to go to the movies with them Thursday
night at one in the morning. I respectfully declined. I said,
no frickin' way, hell's no, will I ever be doing
that again? Just so you can mock me for falling asleep. Well,
now we're gonna mock you for not going. The whole
point is, why would I subject myself to the ridicule
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of falling asleep.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
In the movie.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
When I told you that I don't like seeing movies
which start after midnight, I don't see why you're being
so precious.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You subject yourself to ridicule every single weeknight. What's the difference.
I really think it's a cop out.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I really don't know if I appreciate you over late,
as if you can't go on and just sleep and
you say you're gonna go and catch an afternoon show
that Friday, just sleep in there.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Sleeping in doesn't mean that I'll be able to enjoy
the movie as it happens. Yes, I will be able
to sleep in after the movie, but I will be
unable to stay up through the movie.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You'll be fine, We'll get a drink right before the movie. Yeah,
I'll make sure you're awake. I'll lb in the ribs.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Look, you take a nice little nap, even though and
he's he's loath to admit it, even though he has
taken a nice nap while we have seen midnight movies before,
so I will give.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So why am I gonna subject myself to that?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Your snoring doesn't bother me that much anymore? And I
wish I could never I can't stay on the air.
I need you and my wife to get together and
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You don't want that, But I'm not going to the
movies anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And I did the Math with you off air, and
I'm gonna do the Math with you on air. The
movie is supposed to start win Thursday night slash Friday morning,
twelve thirty, twelve thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's the state of time. That's the list of time.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And we know that we have all these new commercials
which are going to be added to the pre show
because it's AMC. And we know that we have Nicole Kidman,
we know we have the M and M's.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
That said that, we have the guy and the girl
dancing and driving the cars and doing all that.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's at least a half an hour. It is it is.
It is to love to Cry to Camp. By the
time we get to this point, I'm already snoring indescribable.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Audiences love this ad. I mean I don't, but they do.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But that's a good still half hour of non movie
before we get to the movie. So the movie is
not going to start with a twelve thirty listed start.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Time until one in the morning.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I don't stay up that l no, no, no, no, no,
but mo, you're missing a humongous news tidbit connected to
the reason is why you should go and see this? Well,
this may not sell you actually when I think about it,
But it has been revealed that the brand new trailer,
yes for the Avatar with the fire people.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Firewiring, range, fire and range.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, first comes fire, then go well you know, yeah,
it's gonna be playing exclusively in theaters.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's not going to be available anywhere online.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know that I can find that thing online by
the time it comes out.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
No, no, but they're making sure it's exclusive. AMC is
doing everything they can, and they're partnering with Disney and
Fox and whoever else to make sure that you can
only see it in theaters.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Why would I go to a movie at twelve thirty
slash one in the morning. Yes that I can barely
stay awake for just so I can see Nicole Kidman,
who I don't want to see, and Avatar trailer that
I don't want to see for a movie I'm not
going to see.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
How what's in it for me?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
You'll be with your friends, okay, I no friend, I'll
be with that would be with Twala that's friend. That's
one that's singular. Who else talking about for that? Who else?
Who else? Who else is going? That's my friend?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Wow? Oh man, that's just payback, pay back for what
subject yourself to ridicule every single week night. Yes? That
how quickly we forget, sir? We the royal weed? Yes,
royal weed.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, you're gonna be missing out on some fun and
we'll text you from the movie.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's okay, my phone will be off.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I keep trying to tell people my phone I have
a do not disturb.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's on lock after a certain point. Can we get
past that? Tuala? Nah? Not not really.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
If I'm not up, my phone is not on with
the exception of my wife and my mother, my sister,
that's it.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Not even kfi no get it. Okay, that's true. You're
not getting through because not even He even said his
sons don't even have they do not access to they
do not They've better call their mama.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, because I'm not picking up the phone.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think I will treat you
to a delicious tube steak.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Okay, I'm gonna politely decline, dog, I'm gonna politely decline
because I don't think you understand what you're saying right now.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
No no, no, no, no, no, it's filling Mark.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Are you ready for the news, because I'm getting ready
to eject from the segment.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm ready for us all to take a trip to
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Speaker 2 (07:47):
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Speaker 7 (07:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1 (07:56):
K if I AM six forty. It's a Later with
Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio. We're live
on YouTube, Join the mom migos in the Motown Chat
and I'm responding to all of your comments there if
you have something to say, you want to talk about
the show, or you know, ask about why I don't
want to see movies at one am and drive home
at three am because Twala Sharp and Mark Runner are
ganging up on me and let him have it and
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are just determined to drive have me out there way
past by bedtime to see a movie that I won't
remember because I'll fall asleep. You don't seem very grateful.
I want to tell you a story off air about
someone who said that to me sometimes. Yeah, Okay, okay,
it's not gonna like the going.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
To be Yes, tell him because Tala notes the story
because he was there.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
For the conversation.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, yeah, there's Are you bringing some baggage into this
Fantastic four situation?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
No, you just did. Okay, yeah, you brought the baggage. Yeah,
you don't even know. We'll tell you that. I had
no idea. He stepped in it again a trigger word. Okay. Uber.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Uber just announced a new feature today is a matter
of fact, called Women's Preferences, and it's designed to connect
women writers and drivers as part of its quote unquote
ongoing efforts to enhance safety on the platform close quote.
The pilot program will roll out in the coming weeks
here in La San Francisco and Detroit. That's kind of odd, random,
(09:17):
La San Francis Cisco got it, but Detroit?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Uber initially introduced this feature in Saudi Arabia back in
twenty nineteen. You may remember they had that law that
granted women the right to drive back then. Well, that's
why they implemented it there. I don't know why it
took so long for it to happen here, but they do,
say Uber, that is that writer preference is not guaranteed.
(09:41):
And also that setting increases the likelihood that women will
be matched with other women on the app. And let
me be absolutely fair and transparent, and I try to
be cognizant about this when we discuss these issues.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I obviously have never been a woman. I don't know
what it feels like to be a woman.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I don't know the either the insecurities or the concerns
that women may have, not first hand. And whereas I
may not give it a second thought to get in
an Uber irrespective of who is driving, I would say
that's a luxury as opposed to a woman who may
not feel as comfortable. So I will make room for that.
(10:24):
But I don't know if this is going to make
Uber in and of itself safer. Now, it may make
the writer feel more comfortable, but I don't know if
it makes the rider safer. But I'm going to defer
to two people who have actually driven for Uber, Stefan,
what has been your experience as far as have you
(10:46):
ever heard a woman passenger.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Articulate those types of fears of concerns.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Not no, no, they haven't mentioned those concerns, but they've
definitely asked me if there are like female drivers, and
which they do exist, they're out there, but most of
them don't work the hours that I do, which is
usually at night. And I totally understand that I'm cognizant,
(11:17):
Like pretty much you echoed exactly what I was thinking.
I've never been a woman, so I don't have, you
know that that thought in my head. But I always
try to just be as just respectful, and I mean
just a normal person, like I'm not trying to be
any anything different, just you know, treat them as if
it was a guy, Like it doesn't matter to me.
(11:37):
It's just it gets a little bit into the weeds
when they're very inebriated. I need to make sure that
they're safe, but also make sure that my reputation is
also safe because I want to make sure that they
get to the where they need to be, they get
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there safely, and that they egg at the vehicle safely.
So sometimes I do make sure that they get to
their their house, apartment, whatever it may be, before I leave,
because I want to make sure that at least they're
in their own, you know, safe zone.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Twilette. Stephan makes a great point.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
We think of safety generally with respect to the rider,
but not necessarily the driver. We've seen the videos of
you know, the riders acting up in attacking drivers, but
we don't necessarily always have the conversation in those terms.
When you were driving for Uber, was there any time
in which you thought your safety was in jeopardy?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Several times? Several times I felt that the individuals in
my back seat could take my life, not for any
other reason that they just did not look right. Okay,
there was one occasion where a woman had ordered a
ride and turned out she was ordering it for her
(12:59):
boyfriend Giant do the step things like, yeah, Sheela order
this ride for me, And I'm like, you are not
about to kill me, good sir, car, And I mean look,
and I look at this, and I understand the why
it's offering a false sense of security by by giving
the caveaut of you may not be guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, then why offer it at all?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Why even offer it if there's no one hundred percent
guaranteed that you are going to get your selections, you
are going to get a woman driver. But at the
same time, I think that that this does help both
parties because and I don't know, foush if you've read
any of these stories, but there have been more than
a few uber drivers who have been killed because many
(13:47):
people don't know these the directional app Sometimes that thing
goes out when you get near an area and you're
like trying to figure it out, and it is it
is basically your Uber GPS is making sure that your
it's not just you. It's a navigation system making and
it's and it's the exact same navigation that the pastor's
looking at, so it's not your own navigation. So you
(14:08):
you all are synced up, so everyone knows where you're going.
Everyone's watching it. But there I remember a time when
I like because it was like turn left here, and
I'm like, you told me too late, and I had
to like go around the block. And I know that
there have been stories of passengers who panicked and thought
uber driver's trying to kidnap them, and they have killed
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or brutally attacked the uber driver because they felt threatened
in that moment. So I think about something like this
is a win for everybody, and and and again I
just think that this is unfortunately another attack against the fooshes.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Of the world.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
It kind of reminds me of when they try to
start that Uber for kids or eighteens or whatever it was,
it's it's like kind of you said, Mo, it's kind
of them protecting their liability. And the other thing that
people don't think about is, uh you, if you do
that request, your wait time is going to be a
(15:08):
while because there's not a lot of female drivers at night.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've had my fair share
of female drivers regardless of whatever city I'm in. Usually
if I'm traveling, I'm using Uber. I don't even use Lyft,
but I get a fair share of women. But for
the most part I am traveling during the daytime, then
there's that yeah, because I haven't had too many ubers
at night for the most part. But usually I'm like
(15:34):
flying in get in daytime Uber to the hotel. Almost
fifty to fifty it's a woman. Maybe that's just anecdotal
by experience.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I wonder you want some of this. I'm sorry, Carnesia voice.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
I've actually driven for Uber and New Wallans and I.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Just what are you serious right now?
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Uber conversation we had and you just sat over there,
come back, You're literally just sat.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
There, you guys, I didn't want to. You are out
of your mind, young lady, just sitting over there. Well,
I did drive for the entire time, and what the.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Come back? Because now I gotta fix your camera.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Jesus, I can't even I'm so baffled right now.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't even know what's happening right now. I don't
know how you decided to drop that we haven't.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
I used to drive for Uber in New Orleans and
I did used to work late late nights as well.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
How long have you been working on the show. It's
been about here almost.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Okay, listen, So I had I have been in that
in that, yes, environment, I am afraid, especially when driver,
especially when writers get in the front seat next to me.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm just like, oh my gosh. I mean I couldn't
tell them get out and get it. Well, I wasn't here.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Well, yeah, so they usually ride up in the front
Sea with me. Some guys usually ride in the front
Sea with me. Now, there was a time where I
was in Reno and I took a lift and it
was two women that came picked me up, and the
route that they were going I was unfamiliar with it,
and my heart dropped to my ass, and I really
thought I was about to get sex.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh we could say that, Yeah, I'll say it. Your
heart draped.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
I really thought I was about to get sex track,
but I was like, what are y'all doing? Like, where
are y'all taking me? This is not the route, this
is not what I see on my GPS, Like where
are y'all going? And then when they finally got to
some area that I was familiar with, I was like, Okay,
so I feel like it could definitely go both ways,
but I think this option is safer, safer, and just
like food stead like the wait time maybe longer, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, okay, we're gonna do some radio one on one here.
We're going to bring the audience behind the curtain. There's
kind of an understanding everyone has this thing called the rundown,
so you know what topics we're going to be discussing.
It did sneak up on you, No, you knew that
we were going to be discussing this. And there's a
general rule, at least with this show, if you have
some sort of informed perspective that you could offer, please
(18:18):
don't tell us after the fact. And as many times
as we've talked about Uber this or Uber that.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Some time.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, and she's sitting over here.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
We're talking about Uber and specifically requesting a woman Uber driver,
of which you were one and have an informed perspective,
and you were gonna let nobody know.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I was. I was getting ready to go to break
it literally was break that.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
When you said foods's driven, you could have said I've
also driven. I see y'all talking about women. I don't
understand what's happening right now. This is the most insane
thing I've heard.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
I don't know how when and stuff in when?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Okay, this is this is not double Dutch. Okay, you
don't have to wait.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Wait for the right Yeah, the subject matter specifically applied
to you specifically.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I don't know if you can get anyone else here.
Female Uber driver? Okay? Of that description? Who in this
building fits that description? Mark? Are you female or Uber driver?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
No? But I want to inform Carnesia of rule sub
Section one A, which is it's also perfectly acceptable to
let the hostess twist in the wind if you think
it's funny.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Daniel, why are you laughing at that? In the hall?
I thought that was funny.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh, y'all, kiss my ass as s KFI I Am
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Media and we're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. And
you know, I'm a big sports fan. I love sports.
It's if any anything, it's a palate cleanser. I love
sports because it's a nice diversion and distraction from the
real world issues that really get all my nerves, be
it politics or what have you. But I have to
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be very clear about this, Carnecia. I hate to talk
across the table, but I you should fix my camera
phone please. I am a Lakers fan. I'm not a
Clippers fan. Tommy Godlove who's in the chat. Just have
to put that out there, Okay. I'm very particular about that.
I am a Kings fan. I am not a Ducks fan.
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Just because you're in the same area general area doesn't
mean I'm rooting for you. I am a Rams fan,
I am not a Chargers fan. I am a USC
Trojans fan. I am not a UCLA Bruins fan. I
don't hate the Bruins. I'm just saying I'm partial to
the Trojans and most definitely I'm a Dodgers fan, not
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an Angels fan. But according to a new study conducted
by Sports Millions, the Golden California, the Golden State, we
produce the most popular professional sports teams in the country
by a lot, ahead of the states of New York
and Texas, and America's most popular sports team wait for it,
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wait for it, the Los Angeles Lakers. And the study,
which analyzed over a year's worth of Google search trends
and Instagram engagement, gave California an unmatched index score of
one hundred, nearly doubling New York, who comes in at
number two with sixty point two and Texas, which came
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in third with fifty one point twenty eight. And at
the heart of the dominance is Los Angeles. That means
the Lakers. Did you know that LA has twelve professional
sports teams and I think it might be more than that.
But this the Lakers, the Dodgers, the Rams, the Chargers,
the Clippers, the Kings, LAFC, LA Galaxy, the Sparks. Yeah,
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that's about right. And of the twelve sports teams in
Los Angeles, the Lakers are on top with an Index
score of seventy point four, fueled by three point six
million monthly searches and an Instagram following north of twenty
five million. So it comes down to engagement. It's not
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just about winning rings. It's not just about winning championships.
It's not just about being on TV. It's about who
people are looking for, what people are talking about. In
other words, you may not even be a Lakers fan,
but you're aware of Let's say Lebron James. You may
be searching for something on him. You may be looking
up things just because you just want to talk smack
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about him. Let's say you're Tommy Godlove and you're a
Clippers fan or a Michael Krozer and a Clippers fan,
and you want to see what are the Lakers are doing. Well,
here's the difference between a Lakers fan and a Clippers fan.
Clippers fan is always looking to see what the Lakers
are doing. They're trying to see how the Lakers are doing. Why,
because they're the little brother. They have the little brother
complex and they want to compare themselves to the Big
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Brother Lakers fans.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We don't give a damn about the Clippers. We don't
care about y'all at all.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
The next championship that you went, no excuse me, the
next championship that you play for will be your first.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You do not matter.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You barely exist. You're a trivia questioned answer. And I
hope you heard that, Michael Krozer. You do not in
any way matter. Okay, you just got Chris Paul to
come back to your team. You're not serious about playing
for a championship. Oh who most recently won a championship
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in all these sports? The Rams, the Chargers never have.
The Dodgers just won last year, and they won in
twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I don't know. It's been twenty twenty five years since
the Angels won anything. Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
The Kings, they've won two or three Stanley Cups in
the past twenty five years. The Ducks, Uh, not so much. Okay,
I rolled with the winners. The Trojans they won a
national championship or two in football. Yes, there was the
scandal they had one taken away because they're paying Reggie Bush.
But don't let the details get in away. They still
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won something California sports the most popular in America. For
all the bad news about California, all the things that
they say were California, it's just horrible. We still when
it comes to sports. It's Later with Mo Kelly, KFIM
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And I have fond memories of Sears.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And when I say memories, because that's about all we
have left anymore memories of Sears.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yes, I love the Sears Roebuck catalog.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
That's about the only way you could find women in
underwear in the nineteen seventies as a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
True story, true story. I'm not ashamed.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
But Sears was an institution and they're only maybe a
handful left. The mo migos they were asking in the
Motown chat, in fact, was Melanie Mattson. She was asking
how many Sears locations are there remaining? And according to
what I could find, there are only eight remaining store
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locations in the United States and Puerto Rico. They're located
in Burbank, Concord, Whittier, Miami, Orlando, Braintree, Massachusetts, El Paso, Texas,
and San Juan, Puerto Rico. But now we can just
about cross Burbank off that list. According to some public
job listings, they are looking for some stockroom employees temporary
(26:25):
to help with receiving for a store which they acknowledge
will soon be closing. That's the Burbank Sears. And if
you know that area where it used to be an
anchor store for the town Center mall, and I've been
to it many times, but it was one that opened
and closed, and they tried to reopen it and closed
and tried to reopen again, and it never quite regained
(26:48):
its footing. And it's a sad story when you think
about what is going to happen to that Burbank location
and what has happened a big picture with Sears.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's sad from.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
A nostalgia standpoint, but it's not really an economic surprise,
if only because these types of retailers, these big box retailers,
don't really have a place anymore. And I know people
don't like hearing that. I know people want to say,
like I like to be able to walk into a store.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I don't. There is nothing that Seers can sell. No
disrespect seiers, there's nothing seers can sell, including appliances.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Just being honest that I cannot get online or make
a purchase through some other retailer without having to go
into a physical Seers location.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
There's nothing serios can do for me. What used to
be the.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Advantage of Sears was they had little this little that
they had a great hardware section, they had a great
appliances section, and the clothes they were reasonably priced. I
know my mother did a lot of shopping and Seiers.
As far as clothes there, it was. It was good
for what it could offer. But all that it did
offer I can get on Amazon. I literally can get
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anything that I want that is offered at Sears on
Amazon and I don't have to waste the gas, I
don't have to waste the time, and just a few
clicks it might even be here the same day.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
How do you compete with that?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Now there's another question of why Amazon is able to
compete because they don't pay their employees enough, But that's
another conversation. But from a consumer standpoint, there's no competition
and I know that pains Mark Ronner when I say that,
but there's no competition.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I know you're trying to needle Bey since I can
respond exactly which part pains me? You putting money into
Jeff Bezos's podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
That's part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Which that's part of it. There's more than one way
to get needled on this. Yeah, Okay, all right now.
But I think it's it's it's an unfortunate truth that
these places, it is not just Seers if you say
Pennies or any of these these big box reached killers
of yester year, which used to serve a very important
purpose in our economy and our shopping travels just don't anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You know what's funny is that you hear and read
all these stories about how ruthless Amazon has been, which
has caused a lot of places to go out of business,
particularly bookstores, which is what they started with. And then
they tried to open their own brick and mortar bookstore.
Why wouldn't they because nothing matters.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But I'm saying, if you've.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Destroyed the competition, then yeah, you can go ahead and
open up a brick and mortar bookstore.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I've been using Amazon less and less because I started
noticing that as rich as Bezos is with his rockets
and renting out the entire city of Venice for his wedding,
he's never done anything like Andrew Carnegie built libraries all
over the country. Bezos has done nothing.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, he hasn't.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
But I don't hold individuals who happen to be presidents
and founders of companies to any unrealistic standard.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
In other words, it's not unrealistic.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I think it's sociopathic not to if you have that
much money to do something to better the society that
enabled you to get so filthy rich.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay, but that's not my motivation. In other words, I'm
not going to not shop at Amazon. I know, double negative.
I'm not going to not shop at Amazon just because
of Bezos being rich. He could sell the company tomorrow
to I don't know, a bunch of people we don't know,
And does that change how I'm going to look at
the company or how I'm going to shop. Look, all
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I know is I can get all my shopping done
and not have to leave this studio. I can be convenient.
It is very convenient. And I'm a guy who used
to use eBay all the time, and then I realized
there were just things that I could not get a
reasonable amount of time through eBay, and I started using
Amazon and I already had Prime, so I get all
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the free shipping. It just fit my lifestyle. And I
think you're gonna say shipping, I get all the free shipping.
That kind of go almost got me too. Honestly, you
don't have to dumb me. You don't have to dump me.
My point is it works for me, and clearly you
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look at the success of Amazon, It's worked for millions
of other people.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I know.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I just feel guilty sometimes because I mean, their warehouse
employees have to pee in bottles. Okay, it's okay to
think about that now and then it is. No, it is,
but what's the alternative? Pay a little more, go to
some place that you feel better about. No, it's all
about me, of course, it always is. I'm serious. I
do that.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
If I am going to make a decision which is
best for me financially, time, economically, all that kind of stuff,
then I'm gonna do what I have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
It's like I can't worry about everyone and everything. You
also weirdly hate going out places even more than I do.
I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But there's an old story Kurt Vonnegat used to tell
about how his wife would get on his back for
going out to buy like one postage stamp, and he's like, no,
I like that. I like going out and farting around
and meeting people and doing things because it gets me
out of the house. And I wouldn't do that otherwise.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
But my life is built on efficiency, and I am
real big on time management and also money management.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Oh, you're practically a vulcan, I can tell.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Well.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I didn't say I was unemotional. Wait wait, wait minute, Okay,
so are you shopping at these little spots Mark?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I do what I can.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I'm not perfect. I do a little bit of everything
with everybody. So I do shop at Amazon, but I
have cut down on it drastically.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I shop at.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Amazon because not only does it save me money ding plus,
it saves me time ding plus. And I can find
things relatively inexpensively against other items that I usually would
spend more money on.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That to me is most important.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I may not agree with all their business practices, like
saying I'm not going to go to McDonald's because they
don't pay their employees enough. Okay, you know you can
find a reason not to shop at any retailer. And
if I dug deep enough, I can find some reasons
not to shop at Sears, for example. I can find
any number of reasons. Now, do I support small businesses
where I can? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Well.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think Series is going to extinct without your help.
But my point is we all make these decisions. We
all make these choices, and the choices are relative to
our own lives. Now, let me give you a perfect example.
Some people will not go to Chick fil A because
of the views of the founder.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh it's not just the views.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
They actively contribute to making the lives of gay people hard.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay, But my point is people make a choice. Mark,
I'm saying and for and people. Different people make different
choices with different criteria.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
And now I was saying, the employer's affecting the employees
and they're not necessarily believing that same thing. What do
you mean, like you're people that are against that belief. Yeah,
it's true, like the shareholders and all of them, maybe
they have it, but you're affecting the employees and they're
the ones who probably don't even have an idea of
what's going on. They're just trying to make a living.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Oh sure, maybe, but we've all got gay friends and
we would we wouldn't ever intentionally do anything that would
hurt them. And so that's just one more thing for me.
No chicken sandwich is that good? I mean, when next
time Nick comes in, ask him if he wants to
go get a Chick fil a sandwich with you.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
No, he may not, But let me put it in
my terms, there are a lot of companies that are
not necessarily kind or friendly to black folks. Okay, you know,
I could give you a lot of stories about Denny's, oh,
which used to be named Sambo's. Okay, we all make
these decisions along the way. But your litmus tests your
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yard stick.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
It's not a yard stick.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's just something I keep in mind, and I have
an imperfect record, but it's you know, I like to
have that be a factor in my decisions.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
That's all I'm And everyone.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Makes the decisions like, for example, why do you think
Targets is suffering greatly right now? Because African Americans have said,
as a group, we're not shopping at Target until they
make some changes relatives to DEI and other issues. But
everyone makes those decisions. Now, if I were since you
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name check Nick, I know we're over. If Nick were
to come in the studio and we were to say
what about Chick fil A? He'll have his views on
Chick fil A, But if we said what about Target,
he may not have any issue with Target. I will
say I've drastically cut down eatn at Sambo's.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You like that? Jeez?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
How long can I be quiet before the alarm goes off?
Let's find out it gets like thirty second, thirty seconds.
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