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July 9, 2025 36 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Regular guest contributor & Associate Director of Communications for VIZIO, Chris Woolsey joins the program to share the latest offerings from VIZIO’s “Watch Free+” including a “Shark Attack!” with Sharknado (1,2, and 3), Open Water (1,2, and 3) & Bull Shark (1,2, and 3) AND a “Full Throttle Summer” with ‘Breach,’ ‘Running’ with the Devil & Night of the Sicario…PLUS – Thoughts on Fox News program “The Five’s” review of the forthcoming James Gunn DC Studios release ‘Superman’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
It's Later with mo Kelly. Time to talk free movies
with Chris Woolsey of Visio TV, Visio home of the
Visio Watch Free Plus app.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
KFI.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
It's a Later with mo Kelly live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
and the iHeartRadio app. Let's talk some movies, but free
movies Visio TV's Watch Free Plus app Movies with Chris Woolsey,
Associate director of Communications.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
How you doing, my friend, I am well, and yourself.
I'm doing well.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'm still recuperating from the Fourth of July weekend that
I am. I did a little too much on Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I did too.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
I took my daughter to the Anime Expo down at
Q You did, go, I did, and we cause played
and everything.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Did you tell twala I did? I did?

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Not? Oh, because he's the he's he's the automa expert
around here. Is oh, yeah, I have it up on
the way out. Then yes, yep, yep. We had a
grand time.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
But I think I walked twenty five thousand steps or
some crazy thing and almost had to get.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Carried to the car. Not good, No, no, so I
feel you. I feel you.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
We're close in age. And I mentioned that because we
know good and well, it's the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws,
that it is speaking of fourth of July. It's set
on the fourth of July.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yep. But it seems like correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Jaws did not get to benefit the franchise, did not
get to benefit by and large from all of the
good things which came out of it. In other words,
you had this cottage industry of shark movies decades later, yes,
but they had nothing to do with Jaws. You had
Shark Dado and any other Why do you think that
is well?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
I mean, I think it was a incredibly original idea,
and I think Spielberg was an unbelievably talented I think
it was a genius. I think it was lightning in
a bottle, and I think he touched on something that

(02:13):
was so primal, the fear as absolutely And I remember
as a kid, my sisters told me they went to
go see Jaws. I couldn't go see it because I
was too little, And they came back from the theater
and told me that Jaws got into a swimming pool
in the movie.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It was so wrong.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
And of course we had a swimming pool, and so
I was terrified the entire summer going into my swimming
pool that somehow the logic held that there was going
to be a shark getting into my swimming pool.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
So the reason I mentioned that because on the Watch
Free Plus app you have Shark attack on Physio's Watch
Free Plus app. How did you decide that and what
do you think about that given a backdrop of what
Jaws did.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Sure, So we at Visio we love movies, and so
we get together at least once a quarter and we
just sit down, the marketing team and the geniuses and
our programming team and acquisitions, and we all get together
and we go, what are we excited about doing next?

(03:23):
And we all got together and our programming programming team
is just amazing, and we started talking about shark movies
and just how much we all love them and there's
so much fun, and we were like, well, it's gonna
be perfect. It's gonna line up with the summer. We're
gonna get every shark movie we can. You know, there's
a Shark Week on Discovery and all that, so it

(03:46):
makes sense there and we're just gonna pack we have.
We have almost fifty shark movies I think on the
Shark Attack Hub. I mean we have and we'll talk
about some specifics, but ridiculous sand Shark Mountain, Shark, Santa
Santa Jaws. I think we have, like it's the most

(04:09):
ridiculous list of shark movie Shark Lake with Dolph Lugren, who,
by the way, I think.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
We've talked about this before, is a fulbright scholar. He's brilliant.
He is he is.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, he has like his master's degree in chemical engineers.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Smartest. That's all I know. This is true. This is true.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
I mention that also because this is around the time
of year that we have Comic Con and one of
my fondest memories, and I know Towalla will remember this.
We had a chance to interview the director of Sharknado
one and two, Anthony C.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Ferarte. Yes, can you.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Tell me that there's any sharkna Sharknado coming up on
physio Watch free TV play.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
We have the Sharknado trifecta at the moment, so we
have Sharknado one, and then because there were so many
unanswered questions, there is Sharknado two and then of course,
so we have the entire cannon, as it were, of
Sharknado films in Zering at his finest Tara Reid.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
John Hurd is so strange how that just became a phenomenon,
because the whole idea is ridiculous on its face. Yes, yes,
but then it just turned into this phenomenon. So it has.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Made over four billion dollars with a bee worldwide the
franchise ow And the funniest part of this is Steve
Guttenberg was apparently offered one of the lead roles when
they were casting the film, and he turned it down, saying,
this is ridiculous, It's never gonna make any money. And then,

(05:44):
of course Ian Zering bought fourteen vacation homes with the
money that he made on this franchise, and then.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
He made more money on this than he did Beverly
Hill's nine O two to one. Oh, I'm not mistaken.
I believe that is correct. I'm not his accountant, but
I'm gonna say yes. And then so Steve Guttenberg immediately
said yes to the spinoff film Lava Anceola, that the
same production entity made. Okay, outside of Shark Nato one

(06:10):
two and three. What else do you have coming? I
don't want to say it's for Shark Week, but we'll
call it Shark Attack.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
It is definitely the Shark Attack Hub. And you can
watch the Shark Attack Hub on your Visio TV by
going to the on demand section for Watch Free Plus,
or if you don't have a Visio TV, you can
download the free video app and there is a Shark
Attack channel that you can watch on your mobile device.
But I think this is actually my current favorite shark

(06:38):
film outside of Jaws.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
And that is two thousand and three's Open Water. I
saw that, Wait a bitte. They did more than one
of those, didn't They They did three, so we didn't
know that.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
I saw the first one, but I didn't see the
other two.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
We have the trifecta of Open Water as well, based
on the true story of Tom and Eileen Lanergan, who
were left in shark infested water in the Great Barrier
Reef when they're scuba diving crews left without them. Did
that company ever get sued? I believe they folded. If
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
That's usually a company killer, no punish.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, one would one would think, yeah, definitely, it's hard
hard to get back in the game after doing something
like that.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Give me one, two, or three more real quick before
we go to break. I will give you three more.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
And that is twenty the twenty twenty two franchise bull Shark.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Now watch your mouth exactly now.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
I'm not sure if you know this fact, but bull
sharks can actually reset their metabolism to live in fresh water.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I did not know that.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
And there is a lake in South America, Lake Nicaragua,
which is full of bull sharks which occasionally attack people.
So the bull Shark franchise posits the question, what would
happen if bull sharks got into a lake in an America?

Speaker 3 (08:00):
But we know that means people have to die.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
But un fortunately, they catch bull sharks in the Mississippi
River all the time. They caught one in Alton, Illinois,
a thousand miles from the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
That's why I stay my ass out of the water.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I don't blame you, not that.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I would get into the Mississippi River. But if I
were to die because of a shark in the Mississippi.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
River, seriously, yeah, you'd be like, I need a judge's ruling.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Off, Like that's not fair.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I'm not supposed to encounter as shark. I like how
you did that Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
There.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
When we come back, we have to talk about your
full Throttle summer on the Watch Free Plus app. You
got it and I'm looking at this list. Yeah, I
give you. Thank you so I appreciate you. You pay close.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Attention to me.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I can tell we'll have more with Chris Woolsey in
just a moment of Visio TV. Can if I AM
six forty live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook and the
iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
KFI A six forty. It's Later with Mo Kelly.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
We live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app.
I'm still joined in studio by Chris Woolsey of Visio TV,
and we're discussing the latest offerings on the Watch Free
Plus app. Last segment, Chris we talked about Shark Attack,
where he told us about Shark Nato one two and three,
Open Water one two and three and Bull Shark one
two and three which are available and free. And now

(09:33):
let's talk about Full Throttle Summer on the Watch Free
Plus app excellent.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yes, And you know, so you and I have talked
before about the struggles in the theaters trying to get
people in the theaters, trying to get enough good movies
into the theaters to get people to actually go to
physical locations to watch movies.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
And we just thought, well, if people aren't.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Going to be going to the theaters to see action films,
if there aren't enough great action films to attract people,
we're going to bring it to Watch Free Plus so
people can watch them for free.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I can dig it, I can dig it. What's up first?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So Full Throttle Summer. It's a great hub.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
There's tons and just like Shark Attack, if you have
the mobile, there's a Full Throttle Summer channel, and then
you've got the hub for Full Throttle Summer on the
on demand experience. I. You know, we obviously have talked
about good Sir Bruce Willis many times, and he has,

(10:33):
like Nick Cage, he has a whole spectrum of films
that a lot of people either missed when they were
out or they forgot about. And there's just some hidden
gems there are. One of them is the twenty twenty
film Breach. Which is a sci fi I don't stand
that one. It's fun. It's fun. It's basically Alien meets

(10:55):
Night of the Living Dead. So it's he's on a spaceship.
It's traveling, and while there there's a few people that
are like in cry or there's a ton of there's
like millions of people on this ship that are in cryostasis.
And then there's a crew who are actually awake and
operating the ship, and a I'm not going to blow

(11:18):
it for you, but a presence gets onto the ship.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
That probably an alien presence quite possibly, not definitely, but
probably yes.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
And uh it's starring obviously Bruce Willis, Cody Hurstley from
Riverdale who played Moose Rachel Nichols from A Million Little Things,
and it is pretty terrifying. It It has all of
the jump scares of the alien films that everybody loves,
but also the infection of like a zombie infection. I

(11:50):
enjoyed it quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Okay, let's I know you got some Nicholas Cage for me,
because I think of action, I think of Nicholas Cage.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Always as well. You should and we do.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
We've got twenty nineteen running with the devil great cast
Nicholas Cage, Laurence Fishburne, Colehauser, who I love.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
He's always great.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
He may not be a leading man, but he's great
in movies like Pitch Black.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yes, yeah, I forgot he was. Oh yes, I'm a
Cole Houser fan. Yeah. He's a good a hole. He's
a really good age. He's probably a nice guy in
real life. I just don't absolutely, but man, he nails
the a hole.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Barry Pepper, who I think is one of the most
underutilized dramatic actors Leslie Bibb from Iron Man. It's about
the CEO of a multinational conglomerate played by Barry Pepper
sends his two best executives on this wild goose chase
that ends up is about why the conglomerates drug supply

(12:52):
is getting hijacked. So it ends up this multinational conglomerate
is actually running drugs, and Nicholas Cage and Laurence fishburn
get out to the middle of nowhere to try to
figure out what exactly is going on. And it is
super intense, lots of intrigue and espionage and tons of
fun action, as you'd always expect with young mister Cage.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Yes, I appreciate young mister Cage more so than older
Mystery Cage. Sometimes he just kind of mails it in. Sure,
but he's imminently watchable, and he's someone I'm always going
to watch regardless.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
We always say that he's he's like microwave pizza. Even
when it's bad, it's still edible. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
All right, give me one more.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Oh, yes, oh yes, I put this on specifically for
you very much.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
This is a twenty twenty one action flick, A Night
of the Ccario, which is not part of the Ciccario franchise. No,
it can be confusing, Yes, and I didn't realize Cacario
is the Spanish word for hitman, which I did not.
I did and realize even though I had watched both
the Saccario films and just never looked that up. So,

(14:06):
but it is starring Natasha Henstritch. Very Lovely, The Very
Lovely from Species, Yes, yes, which I went to go
see just before moving after I graduated from college, just
before I moved to Los Angeles, and that sealed my
desire to work in the entertainment industry, just so I
could work.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Michael Mads he just recently passed.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yea, yeah, yep, Natasha Henstritch, she can come on the
show anytime.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, well not you, but she can't, right absolutely.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Manny Perez is in it costas Mandelor from the Saw franchise,
But it's really good. It's a police officer has to
hide a young girl in witness relocation or witness protection
because she's going to testify against a big drug lord
and then of course the drug lord sends every assassin

(14:58):
known to man to try to kill this little girl.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
It's a story which may ring familiar, but it's still
told well absolutely, yep. Very fun.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Now, how many movies did you have to maybe sift
through to narrow it down to these that you wanted
to feature on the Watch Free Plus app?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Quite a few.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
But the fun thing about Full Throttle Summer is they
drop new movies every week. Every Friday, that's key. There
are two fresh movies thrown into the mix. So even
if you go and you don't see anything that you're
super excited about, check back on Friday because boom, there's
two more blockbusters that we're going to drop.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
So we're talking about the Watch Free Plus app on
Video TV and for those who don't know, we always
need to reset it so they know how they can
find it, where it is.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Is it something they download all the particulars exactly.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
So if you have a video TV, it's already pre installed.
You just turn it on. They're on the home screen,
click on the watch Free plus icon and it'll open
the app up for you.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
You can start watching immediately.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
There's tens of thousands of free TV shows and movies
on there. If you don't have a video TV, it's
not a problem. You just go to your favorite app store,
download the free video app, sign up for a free
video account, go in and there are over three hundred
free streaming channels, each one built around a different genre
or subject matter. And there are tens of thousands of

(16:23):
free titles on there.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
And we love some free, I mean seriously, and sometimes
we take for granted how much good stuff is out
there but available for free, and just don't need to
just pay for things unnecessarily.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Absolutely absolutely, you can have a couple of subscriptions, but
of course utilize the free. The free is there for you.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Now we need to get this on Mark Ronner's TV,
if only because he is our in house reviewer of
both movies and also platforms.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
So you got my attention with the what the space
Zombie one breach? Yeah, yes, I gotta see that. See
very fun. Highly recommended.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Chris Wolsey. How can people find you? Real quick?

Speaker 5 (17:03):
I am on several of the social media's id g
h A y zos on Twitter, I'm Chris Wolsey on Facebook, Instagram,
I think I'm cs Wolsey. Yeah, hit me up, and
of course Visio and watch Free. Plus we've got handles
all over the place so you can find us and yeah,

(17:25):
hit me up.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I need more friends.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I'm going to hit you up and hopefully we'll get
to see you in maybe two weeks.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
You will, as a matter of fact, just before I
head out for my European vacation.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Oh where you going? Real quick?

Speaker 5 (17:36):
We're going to Paris, We're going to Bruges, We're going
to Amsterdam, and then we are going to Spain to
the countryside. My sister, sainted sister and her beautiful husband
have a little house out in the middle of Spain.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And you're going to do nothing?

Speaker 6 (17:50):
All right?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Excited? Well, please take some pictures for us. I will.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
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Speaker 1 (18:01):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (18:13):
KFIM six forty.

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Yes Later with mo Kelly were live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook,
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Speaker 3 (18:19):
I grew up with Superman.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I was not a comic book reader, but I was
a great fan of the Christopher Reeve Superman movies. For
many people, he is the Superman. Yes, I did watch
the George Reeves Superman TV show where he's laying down
on the table and looking like he's flying or some

(18:41):
approximation of that.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
All right, look whether they're flapping the cake behind him.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yes, yes, you can't defend the special effects in those
because they're prehistoric, but the stories are really really good.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mentioned it because there is a common theme and
thread which and through all things Superman. The reason when
we're talking about this because the James Gunn Superman movie,
which arguably is the most anticipated movie of the summer,
drops officially on the eleventh, which is it'll probably be

(19:17):
in theaters and some select theaters.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
What is today the eighth on the tenth it is.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
There are shows that are now starting as early as
two thirty on Thursday, Mark and I will be there
at twelve thirty am.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Here is what Fox News across the number of shows
you're gonna hear. A number of voices had to say
about this movie Sight Unseen, just some of the imagery
and some of the comments made by its director, James Gunn.
And if you don't know who he is, he did't
Guardians of the Galaxy and he's done Peacemaker.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
That's right, Harley Quinn shows that he's NERD certified.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Right, you know his work. But this is what Fox
News had to say.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
He fights for truth, justice and your preferred pronouns.

Speaker 7 (20:05):
The new Superman is going woke.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
You know what it says on his cape MS thirteen mm.
Wow is it super imposed or actually.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
We're getting a woke Superman? Are you excited?

Speaker 8 (20:20):
No? The actual actor, his name is David corn Sweat.
He found himself unable to say Superman slogan quote truth
fighting for truth, justice in the American way. He said, truth,
justice and all those good things. We don't we don't go,
we don't go to the movie theater to be lectured too.
And to have somebody throw their ideology onto us. I
wonder if it will be successful.

Speaker 9 (20:41):
He got canceled, remember James gun over some pedophile joke tweets.
So this is probably his way to like get himself
back into the good graces. He's creating back of woke,
enlightened opinion around him.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Got a woke shield.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
He's got a woke shield, So woke vote.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Where is Superman from? Crypt on? Crypton? So that makes
him a kryptonite. That's what hurts about.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
He nestled in so well into Middle America, right, it's
hard to believe he was some disadvantage immigrant, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Like that?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, he's like exactly, He's a good guy.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
He's as simile. He took down two jobs.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
So now I know that.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
You want me to see the film to get your
political message, and I'm not down.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I gotta look at the script.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
He's from Uganda and there's a love scene with Batman
and Rawbin.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Okay, all the disrespect aside, I'm going to try to
approach this from a semi serious standpoint. Those people, those
individuals have absolutely no idea who Superman the character was
is and has always been let me be absolutely clear,
if you want to look at it through a lens
of only twenty twenty five political discussions in America, then yes,

(21:52):
you're gonna come to that conclusion. Let me just say
this and on to pass off to Mark, who's a
comic book expert in that regard. Superman, Yes, terminology aside.
He's not an American, He's not even an Earthly. He's
an legal alien, legal immigrant, undocumented. He came to Earth
and happened to land in Kansas. He didn't adopt America.

(22:13):
He just happened to land in Kansas. His parents, Jonathan
and Martha Kent, forged documents so he could go to school,
created his birth certificate. If that sounds kind of common, Okay.
Then when he grew into his powers, he made a
decision that he would fight for truth, justice, and the

(22:35):
American way. Depending on the iteration of him, that means
fighting for people who he felt was being unjustly treated.
That included fighting the clan. That in included fighting Nazis.
That or marching with BLM. These are actually in the comics,

(22:58):
And you say, well, mo, what about the movies. You
know that's completely different, not really in Superman two, he
was fighting against foreign terrorists.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
He was also.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Gene Hackler's character, a Lex Luthor. They broke into the
White House and that was all about American propaganda, where
he had to protect the White House. He helped rebuild
the White House and replace the flag on top of
the White House at the end of the movie. I
say all that to say, it's always been about politics.
Superman three, the movie was about the protection of the
environment slash climate disasters. Superman four was about nuclear proliferation

(23:34):
and the Cold War. Oh my gosh, imagine that while
both was going on. Now I yield the rest of
my time to Mark Ronner and Twola Shark.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
I can barely muster up a response to that brain trust.
I mean, if those geniuses are complaining that Superman's woke,
just wait till they find out about Jesus. And I
don't say that because I'm certain that they would find
actual Jesus who woke, but because Superman has, for decades
and decades been explicitly modeled on Jesus. Maybe not everybody

(24:06):
knows that, but even the Christopher Restro movies that the
youth and I both love, he was explicitly modeled on Jesus.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
I'm sorry, can I jump in there, because even Zack Snyder,
it was explicitly modeled on Jesus. They even put Zack
Snyder Superman in the form of the crucifix in the
first movie Matt.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
And the opening speech or the speech by Marlon Brando
as far as who played Jorell in the original why
he sent his only son to the planet Earth to
save the planet and to lead humanity into the light.
If these Fox and idiots missed all of that, forgive me.

(24:49):
I can't help the fact that you are so ignorant
and so busy dog whistling at the moment to your
lowest end of your base, that you miss all of that,
that you want to choose this moment to further your
own propaganda. Wah wah wah, at the same time you
held films like Sound of Freedom up as the pinnacle

(25:11):
of Hollywood creation.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Thirteenth Hour. I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
Maybe it's the type of film that I's not gag
with with their being political of values and preaching to you.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I got to throw this in here because I forgot
to throw it in there. Superman and Batman specifically stood
against racism. In nineteen fifty nineteen fifty with their comic
books of People Are People, Superman had a long speech
defending people who could not fight against racism. And if
you don't want to say, well, what about LGBTQ plus,
Well they did a comic four or five years ago

(25:44):
where Jonathan Kent, the son of Superman, came out as gay.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yes, that has.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Been a constant theme throughout all things Superman, from comic
books to movies and also television shows. Don't I don't
have time to get into the offstreets like for Girl
and and what that has shown over the years.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
Yeah, if you think Superman would be punching down on
marginalized people, that's what Homeland Are on the Boys is
all about.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
He's a satire of that. There it is to me, it.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Is bothersome that, as you said at the top, sight unseen,
just going off of comments made by James Gunn, who
is a champion for the people, who is a champion
for those who are different? Who is a champion for
the l g T, lgbt Q plus I A as

(26:35):
our dear friend Nick Polokini calls it what the alphabet mafia,
James Gunn is a champion of the people. He has said. Yes,
if that's what you all want to call it, fine.
This is a film about about an immigrant who has
come to this to this country.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Who better.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Who are you saying that the guy from another world
who felt marginalized and didn't fit in, did not belong,
was not legally in the country, would be anti immigrant?
Is that what you're telling me? That the person who
fights for truth justice in the American way, he would
be out there helping the ice rain.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
And And this is really really interesting because these same
commons were not lauded at Superman, Man of Steel.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
They were not.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Oh, Zach's the Zach Snyder.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
They talk about political damn.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Superman was before a congressional hearing and they were trying
him as a terrorist because they wanted to see if
he was loyal to the United States.

Speaker 7 (27:42):
And he said, I am loyal to the world, to
the world. I fight for the world. Everyone must get saved. Everyone.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
And they showed him going all around the world saving
cats in the tree or people in a burning Oh,
it was a I think it was in Mexico. It
was like a textile house. Yes, yes, all of this
has been intentional and it has been consistent with the
idea of Superman since nineteen thirty eight.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
I should also add that the American Way thing was
not originally a part of the Superman comic book.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
That was correct. Yes, that was added later on.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Truth Justice, and the American Way was part of the
radio series, and it became postive propaganda partial It became
popular during World War Two, and there was a very
specific reason for a little bit of jingoism during World
War Two that we don't really need today.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
But more broadly, the comic book characters were always a
part of the political times in which they were created
and existed. They spoke to the issues of the day,
be it in newsreels, be it in comic books, be
it in TV shows, be it in movies. As it
so happens today, the issue has to do with immigration,

(29:00):
and to that point, I believe that the change in
the Superman's slogan actually fits better with where this planet
is now and where we need to be going.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Where it is now, truth, Justice, and a better tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Hold, I thought we got more when we come back
KFI answer forty.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
We're talking Superman the new movie, and also the pushback
from Fox News and where the truth they lie.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Kelly and six frid Live everywhere, on the iHeartRadio app
and social media. We're right in the middle of a conversation,
a spirited conversation talking about the new movie Superman. Twala
and Mark. We'll see it before the week is out.
I hope to see it by the end of the weekend.

(29:53):
Is arguably the most anticipated movie of not only the
summer but the year, the James Gun movie Superman, and
to quickly recap, Fox hosts and commentators had a field
day saying it was woke. If you see the movie,
you're gonna be lectured. They're basically insulting as many people

(30:15):
as possible, saying that this Superman would have MS thirteen
on his cape, he's from Uganda and probably would kiss
Batman and Robin. But my point is all those insults aside,
it shows an ignorance about the history of the character.
Superman has always been on the side of those who
could not fight for themselves. He has always been anti racism.

(30:38):
So if you're gonna call him woke, now you're just
not freaking paying attention. He has always been fighting for
those who did not have the strength to fight for themselves.
And if you want to put it in a contemporary context,
that would include people who are immigrants, which is different
from immigration law and deportation. If you want to talk

(31:00):
about what's happening right now, and I've said it before,
it has to do with methods and tactics. Superman was
fighting racism in the nineteen fifties in the comic book form,
in his movies, they have been always overtly political always.
You may not have recognized it, you may have agreed
with it, but they've always been overtly political. This is

(31:21):
not any different. Superman has already always chosen a side.
That's the whole freaking point. He would not let social
unrest just happen. In the comics, he march with BLM.
He has always chosen a side.

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Well, what do you think it means to insult a
superhero by calling him woke?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
What do they think superheroes are? I mean, literally.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Superheroes, they stand out only for the best inside, and
they're supposed to give us something to strive for, something
to look up to in, something to want to aspire to.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Be like.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
But at the same time, superhero are not beholden to
any any political party, any state, any nation. For the
most part, even no matter where they're from. I mean,
hell uh Green Lantern. He literally polices the entire galaxy

(32:18):
surrounding our planet. Wonder Woman. She comes from a nation
that separated, separated itself from mankind because of the evils
of mankind, and wonder Woman also was sent to say, hey,
be a beacon of light, show mankind that there is
a better way. This is the lore of DC comic books.

(32:42):
Batman fought against crime and corruption, not just crime on
the streets, but Batman also fought against crime within as
Bruce Wayne, against corporate crime and things like that, and
bringing light to underhanded business dealings.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
This is just what comic books do.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Do you think Superman was going to side with Lex
Luthor the oligarch.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
I think the people you played in the clip would
side with Lex Lucor.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
And they would, And that's why they find the whole
idea of this movie distasteful because it offends their political
sensibilities and they have no understanding of the history of
the character or the director.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
None.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Superheroes are not bullies. They put themselves between the bully
and the victim, and you got to wonder what these
people are rooting for who complain that Superman is quote
woke Yeah again Sight Unseen.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
There is a very very common theme that is happening
right now when it comes to quote unquote superhero stories
that star people of color, that star women, or that
they have food themes. Hell, yes, they have themes that
are against the the status quote Ironheart. Sight Unseen was

(33:56):
absolutely trashed just because you have a young black woman
starring in a series.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
And before anyone tries to disagree with that, they were
review bombing it before they saw anything. So it was
only their feeling about the series and who was starring
in the series and the importance place on the lead
character in the series, not actually the qualitative analysis of
the series.

Speaker 7 (34:24):
Some of the commentary said, once again, we have to
have some woman save in the day.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Literally, that's a comment that was that's one of the
nicer ones.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
Yes, Like what world do we live in where that's
a problem, So that's just inherently offensive to them.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yes, once again, we live in a time where people
expect our news and media to affirm us, to reflect
what we want to believe, already believe or think, which
is most valuable in society. And I'm not going to
go too deep with this or to try to keep
it in the super mal Man realm and not confuse
it and conslate it with Marvel. But if you say

(34:59):
that that Superman is woke and that is somehow wrong
or antithetical to the character of Superman, you're an idiot
and you don't know what you're talking about. Because Superman
has always stood for the same ideals, regardless of decade,
regardless of movie, regardless of comic book, regardless of medium.
It's the same frickin' mother father guy every time. And

(35:23):
if you're saying now that he's somehow changed because he's
defending the weak, or he is, I'll say, seized people
of color in himself, the marginalize people, people who are
living on the margins.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
If you think that that's not Superman, he just stuck
the f up.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
I think that the three of us had our morality
shaped by growing up reading superhero comic books. And when
you when you hear fools like this make complaints like that,
it almost makes no sense using English words.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
It doesn't.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
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and the iHeart where you are.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
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