July 1, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the Weekend Box Office AND the potential of late actor Paul Walker’s Brian O’Conner returning in ‘Fast & Furious 11’…PLUS – Thoughts on the child that “fell overboard” while on a cruise and the father that jumped overboard to save them - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
If I am six forty is Later with Moe Kelly,
the Home of where Mark Runner is Always wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Mark, that's a great way to start this. I appreciate that, Mark.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I got a bone to pick with you talking to
keep your bone to yourself. We're gonna talk about the
box office returns, the number one movie this weekend F one,
the movie. That's the title, f that. It brought in
one hundred and forty six million dollars worldwide. It was
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part of your Runner report on Friday. I never said
it wasn't going to be successful. I just said it
wasn't very good.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I haven't said it. I just gave you some information
about box office. That's all.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'll let you get to the verb. Go ahead, okay.
I watched it over the weekend. To Walla watched it
over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We remembered and what you said about the movie, and
we responded to you. And I just want to say
very quickly, because this week is all of one. It
was a movie. It was not great, but I greatly
enjoyed it. I thought the cinematography was fantastic. The storyline
was unbelievable, ridiculous in many ways. I don't want to
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get into the specific because it would give away the plot,
but there is no plot.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It was really it was worth my time, and I
can't say that about a lot of movies. I enjoyed it,
and I was actively rooting for people and their various
story arcs along the way.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was popcorn fantasy. Twalla.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You said on the chat escapism, That's all I want,
That's all I needed.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I need to go to a movie and enjoy myself.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I don't need to go to a movie for an
artistic look at the F one and the documentary and
the history and getting into the nitty gritty and then
you know, building cars and remembering the golden age of
the F one or whatever artistic bourgeoise you need to see.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The extreme mark.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I wanted to see a movie about fast cars, about
a character that I enjoy seeing, and I think Brad
Pitt gave us a fun character. Every film that Michael
Bay touches, Michael Bay didn't direct this, No, I'm saying
that he touches. He produced, he produced it, because this
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is a Michael Bay fanfair film. It is big, it's loud,
It's got a lot of really really intense action moments.
The driving was insane and it was tense. They used
nothing but real race car drivers throughout the film, and
I think that was the plus real race car owner.
So the only actors were, like, you know, the three
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principal stars for the most part, but there were a
lot of real F one people behind it.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Hell, what's the name produced it? Yes? Why?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Because he had faith in it, because he knew he's
bringing F one to the screen in a way we've
never seen.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You know what you're really gonna like if you like
F one? If I put a big kitchen pot over
your head and stick a light under it and then
start banging it from the outside with a spoon.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It was an enjoyable movie. So lucky not at NC station.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Not everything needs to be oscar worthy. Why can't Why
can't we just go to a movie and enjoy what
it is?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Clearly did that give you exhibit A in the maxim
that dumb stuff is often quite popular.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Are you ready for this? Avatar?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Avatar is a lie that was that was a theatrical
lie scam.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It was literally.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Was it enjoyable by James Cameron for his own ego
to overtake box office with fake numbers in markets that
do not even exist with his ridiculous film.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So we're back to Avatar trutherism here. Yes, it's facts.
The fact is that there are some dumb movies that
are crowd pleasing, popcorn movies that become popular. I didn't
say that it wasn't gonna make money. I mean, and
we included that in the equation. I'm also not judging
Toula for his wild attraction to Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's your business. They said, this is why he deserves
this verbal ass whopon see this, and this is how
you want to come back? Do your words?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
How about this? Did you like Top Gun Maverick? It
was okay, I mean, we're talking about this, Okay. Top
Gun Maverick was not great cinema. It was great fun.
It was a it was a wild ride. It was
an enjoyable moment of escapism. That's all I needed out
a whole movie called f One. If they got the
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racing scenes wrong, that I'd be right there with you,
because it had one job.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Let's get the racing scenes right.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Is it too much to ask that they actually fit
a decent story around the cool racing scenes. I like
the racing scenes. I like cars. I thought this story
was decent enough. That's just where we disagree. It wasn't
a great movie. This is something that I this was
my takeaway from it. I think Brad Pitt is entering
his Robert Redford phase in.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
The sixth set.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He's doing roles that are against type, and he can
fill up the screen by himself.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, I compared it to The Natural In fact, if
you remember.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I do remember thinking, I think that's an app comparison
in many respects, and he is. When I say the
golden age of his career, I think you're going to
see some of the best work of Brad Pitt because
he's not really an ensemble cast. He's literally and figuratively
driving this movie. I know who Damson Isteress is, but
he's not a star yet.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
He's not. No, we agree on one minor aspect of
this rotten movie. What what is the use the word rotten?
What did you guys think of the time length? Didn't
notice it?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
No, because it lies by so fast, more than two
and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Because there was.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So much time on the various tracks. I don't want
to give it away, but they're like nine different races
that showed you.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean it's really speak And I really was
complaining going into the theater, like, oh man, with the trailers, this, that,
and the other, we're gonna not be out of there
till late and then by the top I literally And
because my daughter is such an F one fan, which
I did not know till getting in there, she's like, no,
this why this was why he couldn't do that because
he would have been banned from the track and maybe
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disqualified because she knows all this stuff about F one,
which is shocking to me. Her enjoyment, mind you, we
love We really enjoyed it. Man, it was a fun,
fun movie. I'm glad that you had a parental bonding experience.
I would never take that away from that. That's pretty cool.
So has she been into it for a while when
the movie? Yes, No, she she's been talking about this
movie since they first and that since actually Hamilton announced
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it that he was gonna do it. She was like,
oh my god, they're actually going to do a movie
on F one. I've got to see it. And I'm
like what are you talking about? This is like a
year ago. I was on one of those apps.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I was into F one and Indy Car, which are
two different things, more so as a kid and young adult,
not in my more recent years. In the movie, they
make allusions to Senna and Schumacher and people from my
generation as a fan. I mean, I grew up watching
Mario Andretti, so I had some degree of familiarity with it.
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But I loved the in depth technical analysis of the sport,
which I read was pretty spot on.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
How they developed the cars analysts that I did not know.
They put everything into it. I'm like, don't you just race?
Don't you just go around in the circle?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Not at all? No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And it's okay for you to be wrong. Mark, it's
okay when it happened. When I'm going to be humble
about it as you would expect, you know what's really
interesting and chat, I need you to hear me on this.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
When we were going off about it, Mark literally threw
out a comparison to Kung Fu.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You got better.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, I threw it out there, but he co signed
that Kung Fu was a magnificent piece of work. You
really insist on dragging kung Fu into this Yes, yes,
because it impus your integrity as a film credit that
is so ignorant that I can't even be angry with
you about it. Because kung Fu is an acknowledged TV
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classic and it's beautiful, and most people by who they
don't humanity, No people with eyeballs that are attached to brain.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Noone is doing a kung Fu people who are into
BDSM what I'm just being? What a way to go?
What a way to go? I forgive you both, just
how magnanimous of you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's Later with mo Kelly, Can't I Am six forty
Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio and one from one racing
movie to another. Vin Diesel says Paul Walker's Brian O'Connor
could return in Fast and Furious eleven. I'm not so
sure I want to see that. I'm They'll talk about
it next.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Family.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (09:20):
KFI AM six forty years Later with Mo Kelly. We're
live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app. We're
talking about f one last segment. This segment talk about
Fast and Furious. I have never been a huge fan
of the franchise. There are movies in the franchise that
I like, you know, this one, that one, but not
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all of them.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
And we all remember or we should remember that. I
didn't know why I should say we should say that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
There was a question of whether the franchise was going
to continue after the untimely death of Paul Walker back
in twenty thirteen, but it has gone on and they
have even had some visual allusions to him on screen.
They used his brother and some facial stuff that did
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to make him look like his brother. But they're talking
about bringing back his character Brian O'Connor for Fast and
Furious eleven, and I was saying right before the break,
I don't know if I want that now. The reasoning
is Vin Diesel.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
This is what he had to say. Quote.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Just yesterday, I was with Universal Studios. The studio is
said to be Vin, can we please have the finale
of Fast and Furious In April of twenty twenty seven,
I said, under three conditions, because I've been listening to
my fan base. Those conditions were to bring the franchise
back to La return to its street racing roots, and
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reunite Dom and Brian in other words, Vin Diesel and
Paul Walker's character. That is what you're going to get
in the finale. I don't know how you're going to
do that. I guess you can, you know, use the
facial CGI and make Paul Walker's brother look like Paul Walker.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But it doesn't feel right. Both of Paul Walker's brothers
look a lot like him, so they do. There's not
a lot of CGI, and you would have to do
it's not it's not like the aging, which is a
lot rougher. You can do an overlay, just a general
overlay of Paul Walker onto Wonders brother, who, now that
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he's older, looks even more like Paul Walker did when
he last appeared as Brian O'Connor in the Fast franchise.
This is absolutely necessary. Paul Walker's daughter wants it, his
brother's run it, and the fans want it. I am
the fan of the franchise. I own all the DVDs.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, they're big proponents of that. Yes, okay, I granted
I'm in the minority in this regard. It just there's
something that begs it seems as if it's a it's
a little obscene, Yes, maybe that's the word. It just
seems like it's disrespectful to his memory. And I can't
speak over what the family's saying. I'm just saying it's
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just it's not like they're peaking on a woman taking
a bath. They're literally saying the fans want to see
the characters want to see this in Yo, We've invested
way too much times franchise. It just seems undignified to
do it, just seems undignified.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Twalla.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Were you a big fan of that commercial with dead
Fred Astaire dancing with the vacuum cleaner?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Because this is that look.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I enjoyed, uh them digitizing who is it Peter Cushing
in Star Wars?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Who was that?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It was Peter? It was Peter Cushing.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I enjoyed seeing it because I said myself, that's great.
Keep that character alive.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But he didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But he didn't die quasi related to the Star Wars universe.
Paul Walker died basic car racing with his buddy in
a port.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And and you know what you do with that? You
put him back on the road family and that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Right, bring it look, bring it back into like making
it more ground to getting away from.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
All the the craziness of going into space. Yeah, all that.
They're like, look, let's get let's end it where we start.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I know they're gonna have this, you know, this ten
second last race to close out the series.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I know how it's all gonna lay.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
No, no, no, no, He's gonna have to play a
bigger part Brian, because we all been wanting to know,
because they keep mentioning Brian. Brian's over there, He's with
his family, Brian's with his kids, Brian is doing all this,
that and the other.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Bring Brian back. We want to by we want Brian. No,
we don't want Brian. We we don't, Yeah, we do.
I would Yeah, I wouldn't mind Paul Walker coming back.
I don't need the character Brian O'Connor back.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's one of the same.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know what if you know, it just feels like
it feels like you're trying to finish up The Crow
with Brandon Lee, and it seems for more about money.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Know that that was the finishing the Crow with digital
shots and and everything that they captured before.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Of Brandon Lee.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That was in an effort to bring that film to
the screen for the fans who have been begging.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
For Okay, see, we're back to fans again, and that's
that's my point. I don't believe I Look, who am
I to disagree with his family members? It just feels dirty.
But what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Are you saying that we can't have a digitized uh
Carrie Fisher to do some more Princess Lane.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It has to do with the tragic nature of how
he died.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh, come on, get look, get get off of your
sensitivity with car crashing with family.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Want Yeah, if they went against the fan like this,
actual family, that would be uncool.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they're crazy. I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't trust family anyhow, because family they make decisions,
and family members in Hollywood is not always in the
best interests of the.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Would I would not want to see.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A movie which had a helicopter scene with Vic Morrow's
face in it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Thank you for that? Okay, what what if? You know
what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about
that it's not the same thing.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You get cast Vic Morrow in the film. Say hey,
you know what, we've got a digital likeness. We're going
to finish this film that he never finished because his
head got cut off.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You don't want that how about some of this base
level human decency and not having to just milk money
out of every last thing.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
We act like they weren't going to do this film anyway,
but I don't do it. We act like Fast and
Fears isn't all about family. What better way, what better
tribute to the family than to have the of this character.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You have this movie dedicated to the memory of Paul Walker.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They did that.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They did that in the last That's my point.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Fast and Furious weekend, it burns and he and call
it done. So now you're being dispecful.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Because you are attacking. You are attacking the dead. We
are lifting the dead up.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You are making fun of the dam, attacking the crass
leeches who want to resurrect the dead.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yes, yes, they don't have to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And look we're not talking about some talking about some
cinematic masterpiece. This is not that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I just believe they can better honor him. I do.
Hang on though, you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Said they went to the space in one of these Yes,
the Fiero. Okay, I want to say that Fiero with
duct tape.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That's why me and Tall are like, they're bringing it
back to basic bones, you know, Street racing. I get that,
I get that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And who better than one of the best street out
there like they are od Don Yes, no, you don't
need Don and Brian Butcher and Sand and Butch and
Sun Dance.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Anybody else you want to resurrect while you're at it. Look, look, no, no,
and no.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
We've had we've had this conversation on the show before
about the digital likenesses being licensed out and how everyone
will be coming back eventually.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
That is what they're doing in Hollywood. It's still gross.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Okay, well, then you guess what you can sit at
home with, you know, eat, love, prey, chocolate or whatever
film it is.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Why Why do they put James Dean in it as well?
Why anyone who's been in a car you put them
in a movie in a racing accident?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Jane Mansfield in it? Ye? Why not? Why not? You bake?
This is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
To a level that anyone with a car history in there.
That's not what it's about, fast, no, no, no, it is.
It is literally about honoring the memory of the character,
honoring what the fans want, what the family wants.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Start.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's all about family, and family want a piece of
that paycheck. Okay, why don't we do a scene of
chap equidic too? There you go, geez, since there are
no rules, why not?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Since we don't have to worry about respecting the dead
chap Aquitic. Yeah, put Teddy Kennedy in the next Fast
and Furious.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
She's dead too. Bring him back. Now, you guys are
just being good. I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, this is ridiculous. This is absolutely real. Wells died
in a car accident. I'm gonna start making a list
right now because of this. I'm gonna make sure they're
all in Fast and Furious. Since you have no morals.
K I AM six forty life everywhere in our Heart.
Ready about what I'm ashamed of you? I'm shamed.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (19:08):
Moe Kelly Live Everywhere in the iHeartRadio app And by
now you've probably heard the story regarding the Disney cruise
in which a child fell into the water, went overboard
and a father which went into the water after the child.
And if you've noticed, no real discussion has been had
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as to how it happened or why it happened. And
since I've been on enough cruises, not Disney specifically, but
I've been on enough cruises to know pretty much how
they work, there's something that doesn't quite seem right with
this story, if only because a child cannot just fall
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overboard most cruise ships. Everyone I've been on, the railing
on the top deck comes up to like my armpit words,
I would have to climb up. I can't just fall
over as a grown ass man. A child cannot fall overboard.
That means that the child either was doing something he
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or she was not supposed to be doing as far
as climbing on something and unattended, or there is something else.
And if you've ever been on a cruise ship, there
are cameras everywhere just for that reason, because.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
They can't have actual.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Staff would have you every part of the ship at
all times seeing what is going on. If there happens
to be an emergency, if there happens to be a
security related issue, if there happens to be a fight,
anything like that, you need to be able to have
cameras on just about every portion of the ship.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's it is like a surveillance state. You are not
going anywhere on that ship.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Especially on one of the upper level decks where you're
out where you're not actually on camera. It doesn't say
that the child fell off a balcony like a state
room balconty. So I'm saying that she's he or she
probably fell from one of the common areas from the
fourth deck into the water. There's something which doesn't seem
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quite right with this story because of the lack of details.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I say that to say Disney Cruise knows exactly
what happened. They have video.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I bet dollars to donuts they have video exactly of
what happened, and they are reserving sharing that information for
any number of reasons. Quote, we are on the Disney
Dream at sea today and just witnessed a first on
a cruise. A little girl fell overboard and her dad
jumped overboard to try to save her. Man overboard calls
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went up immediately. This Disney crew went into action asap.
Lots of praying folks on this ship, but the little
girl and dad were both successfully rescued. Next Dwayne Smith,
who wrote on a public post on Facebook he was
on the cruise at the time. Here's what Disney Cruise
Line shared, though in the form of a statement very
nonspecific quote. The crew aboard the Disney Dreams swiftly rescued
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two guests from the water. Didn't say how they got
in the water. Notice that we commend our crew members
for their exceptional skills and prompt actions, which ensured the
safe return of both guests to the ship within minutes.
We are committed to the safety and well being of
our guests, and this incident highlights the effectiveness of our
safety protocols. Close quote nothing about what actually happened or
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why it happened. Now, if you've ever been on a
cruise ship, and I have, they're only like two real
places in which you could go overboard, let's say three.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
If you're on one of the upper decks where you'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The pool where you'll see the people's son, that is
one of those places you have direct access to the water.
If you want to jump over the rail, you'll probably
end up in the water. The second is along inside
where you have like the restaurant area. Most of these
cruise ships they have like a sliding window where you
can look out. You can feasibly, in theory, open up
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the window and then jump your ass through, but it
takes a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
It's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And third part is if you're on your in your
if you have a stateroom with a balcony, your room
has a balcony, then in theory, you could jump off
your balcony, but usually these these are these ships are
built like a trap, is weid.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You can see the picture on our YouTube.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So if you jumped out of your stateroom balcony, you're
going to bounce off the side of the ship on
the way down. So that says to me they are
probably on one of the top decks to have that
direct path to the water. Not trying to be more
but just give you a sense of what the ships
are like. There's something that's really missing in this story,
and it's fundamental to whether this was an accident, whether
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this was negligence, some combination of both. But Disney Cruise
Lines was very careful not to give you any details.
We haven't heard from the father, we haven't heard any
update about the child, and that is all very intentional.
I'm not saying that anyone's particularly wrong. I'm not saying
it's something that the father did do or didn't do.
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I'm just saying I'm noticing the deafening silence surrounding the particulars.
And there's going to be more which is going to
come out on this story, because there's no If you
look at the other incidents where someone goes in the water,
they almost always tell you immediately someone jumped, someone fell, X,
Y or Z lost their bout. You usually get some
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sort of information to accompany the story. We're getting nothing.
And you bet you're ass there's video because there's twala.
You know, there's no place you go walk on that
ship and there's not video unless you're in.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Your stadios on every edge that ship all around unless
for some reason another Disney cruises just forbids cameras along
the deck. But you can see the cameras when I
was out there chilling watching the water, just everywhere there's
a camera that I love. Look the story, it's beautiful.
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Kid went overboard, father jumped in. It's a harrow fil
This is made for a Disney movie. I know for
a fact that if my child, and my child is
grown and I'm on the boat with him and I
was worried about him possibly being drunk and going over
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because we know we've seen the water you've looked down
that water has nothing to play with. I have also
seen when I was on that ship. I saw kids
running around on the deck with parents who weren't really
halfway paying attention, and I said to myself, this deck
is awfully slippery. If if one of these kids was
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to get up on that ledge, oh they're going over quick.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But they would have video of it. They would yeah. Yeah.
So I'm saying this. We're going to watch the story.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There's probably more to come out in the coming days,
because clearly there's a liability issue here and no one
is saying anything about anything. When we come back, I'll
have my final thought and has to do with immigration.
And also an email from a former listener.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Before we go, let me give this email and thought.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I saw a listener email right before the show started
and kind of set up what I wanted to say tonight.
This comes from Joanne Elle. I'm not going to give
her last name. She says some un nice nanks. Later on,
this is from Joanne quote, Moe, don't know what's happened
to you. No longer listen to your show. First, very
long drawn out argument about sharing food, plus Tuala announcing
(27:02):
that he would never share food forks, et cetera, even
though his quote, mouth has been all over every part
of a woman's body.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Close quote. Then last night a few about a week ago, you.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Got all arrogantly dramatic about ice only supposed to be
arresting criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Spoiler alert, mo.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Anyone who crosses our border illegally is a criminal, and
the plan has always been to deal with those illegals
who have egregious criminal records first, then every other illegal
can no longer take you getting on your high horse
or your disgusting locker room talk.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Love Joanne. So, I guess we're down to three listeners.
We had four.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Now with the exit of Joanne, we're down to three.
But I did want to address her email, and she
emailed us at later with mo Kelly at gmail dot com.
I'll skip over the sharing of food stuff, you know,
in Tuala's mouth, which supposedly has been over every part
of a woman's body. I don't want to subject Joanne
to any necessary locker room talk. I know she's listening
right now, but my hope is when anyone has real
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strong feelings about a subject I discuss or takes issue
with a stance I have, you at least start from
a standpoint of accuracy. I'm so tired of people trying
to tell me about things I did not say. Nobody
is unclear as to whether crossing the border illegally is illegal.
Absolutely nobody, and you yourself, Joeanne said, and I quote,
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the plan has always been to deal with those illegal
who have egregious criminal records first, then every other illegal close.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Quote that's what you typed Joe Anne. On this show,
we pointed that out.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We agreed that that was the original plan sold to
us by the Trump administration. But instead, instead we've gotten
raids at home depot, churches, asylum hearings, elementary schools, et cetera.
I pointed out the quote unquote egregious criminals. Your words
are not going to be found at any of those places,
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So there's a disconnect in terms of word. Indeed, also
something else you may not know about me, Joanne and
anyone else listening. I care about people more than anything else,
and I make no apologies for that you refer to
them as quote unquote illegals as if they're things unworthy
of humane or lawful treatment. I may be wrong, but
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that's the sense I get. Immigration law is not the
discussion or debate right now in America. It's not about immigration.
I'd submit that this debate is about the methods and
tactics being used, the people who are being targeted versus
the people not being targeted, the cities being targeted versus
cities not being targeted.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's only happening in like La and democratic cities. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's worthy of discussion legally being undocumented in America.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And I've said this before, I need to say it again.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's statutorily no different than a citation like speeding or littering.
And I made that fact actually accurate point previously. Maybe
you didn't hear it the first time. And I wouldn't
want anyone having their door kicked in or blown off
the hinges, or having law enforcement showing up at my
child's school or my family's church and also employing violence
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to meet out justice for littering or speeding. And I
don't think you would either, not if you remembered. We're
talking about actual people, my friends. Who I think of
is like family who this directly impacts hailed from Guatemala, Mego, Onduras,
and other places like Russia and Germany, not all Latino
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or Hispanic, and some are listening right now.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Many of them are documented US.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Citizens, but not necessarily, not necessarily their whole family family
members of theirs I also know personally, and it's easy
to disregard someone's humanity if you don't see them as people.
Since you were bothered by my stance, I feel compelled
to be absolutely clear. People should follow the law immigration
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or not immigration, no doubt, follow the law. But if
you're deporting people while they are literally in process of
following the law at an asylum hearing, then it's worth
calling it out.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
If you're using.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Methods which are unlawful in terms of abuse or robbing
them of their rights which they do have in this
country per the Constitution and the fourteenth Amendment, then yes,
it's worth calling out. Because Joanne, you're against illegals as
in illegal behavior right well, that also entails actions by ice.
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So jo Anne, I'm sorry that we may have lost
you as a listener. I tell people all the time,
this show is not for everyone. Not everyone is going
to enjoy everything, every subject or every commentator, and I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
We can be juvenile, I admit it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
We could be borderline, vulgar, preachy, or reverend whatever word
you want to use, guilty as charge. I'm not going
to fight you on that. But there will be more
locker room talk in the future, I guarantee you. But
here's the most important point. I hope to never lose
my humanity when discussing these serious issues. What's happening right
now in the news, is happening in my community, is
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happening to people I know and I love. It's happening
to people both documented and undocumented. And if my nuanced
expression balancing the law and people should still offend you,
I wish you well, because at the end of every
show I have to be able to look these same
people in the eye, and they have to know that
even if they and I don't agree on the issue
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of immigration, and believe you me, we don't agree, we
do not agree. They, though, don't ever have to worry
that I will say anything which denies or denigrates or
disavows their humanity. For k if I am six forty,
I'm mo Kelly
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Kaspy and kost Hd two Los Angeles, Orange County more stimulated.
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
If I am six forty is Later with Moe Kelly,
the Home of where Mark Runner is Always wrong.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Mark, that's a great way to start this. I appreciate that, Mark.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I got a bone to pick with you talking to
keep your bone to yourself. We're gonna talk about the
box office returns, the number one movie this weekend F one,
the movie. That's the title, f that. It brought in
one hundred and forty six million dollars worldwide. It was
(00:37):
part of your Runner report on Friday. I never said
it wasn't going to be successful. I just said it
wasn't very good.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I haven't said it. I just gave you some information
about box office. That's all.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'll let you get to the verb. Go ahead, okay.
I watched it over the weekend. To Walla watched it
over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
We remembered and what you said about the movie, and
we responded to you. And I just want to say
very quickly, because this week is all of one. It
was a movie. It was not great, but I greatly
enjoyed it. I thought the cinematography was fantastic. The storyline
was unbelievable, ridiculous in many ways. I don't want to
(01:14):
get into the specific because it would give away the plot,
but there is no plot.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It was.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It was really it was worth my time, and I
can't say that about a lot of movies. I enjoyed it,
and I was actively rooting for people and their various
story arcs along the way.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It was popcorn fantasy. Twalla.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You said on the chat escapism, That's all I want,
That's all I needed.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I need to go to a movie and enjoy myself.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I don't need to go to a movie for an
artistic look at the F one and the documentary and
the history and getting into the nitty gritty and then
you know, building cars and remembering the golden age of
the F one or whatever artistic bourgeoise you need to see.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The extreme mark.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I wanted to see a movie about fast cars, about
a character that I enjoy seeing, and I think Brad
Pitt gave us a fun character. Every film that Michael
Bay touches, Michael Bay didn't direct this, No, I'm saying
that he touches. He produced, he produced it, because this
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is a Michael Bay fanfair film. It is big, it's loud,
It's got a lot of really really intense action moments.
The driving was insane and it was tense. They used
nothing but real race car drivers throughout the film, and
I think that was the plus real race car owner.
So the only actors were, like, you know, the three
(02:47):
principal stars for the most part, but there were a
lot of real F one people behind it.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Hell, what's the name produced it? Yes? Why?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Because he had faith in it, because he knew he's
bringing F one to the screen in a way we've
never seen.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You know what you're really gonna like if you like
F one? If I put a big kitchen pot over
your head and stick a light under it and then
start banging it from the outside with a spoon.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It was an enjoyable movie. So lucky not at NC station.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Not everything needs to be oscar worthy. Why can't Why
can't we just go to a movie and enjoy what
it is?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Clearly did that give you exhibit A in the maxim
that dumb stuff is often quite popular.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Are you ready for this? Avatar?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Avatar is a lie that was that was a theatrical
lie scam.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It was literally.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Was it enjoyable by James Cameron for his own ego
to overtake box office with fake numbers in markets that
do not even exist with his ridiculous film.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So we're back to Avatar trutherism here. Yes, it's facts.
The fact is that there are some dumb movies that
are crowd pleasing, popcorn movies that become popular. I didn't
say that it wasn't gonna make money. I mean, and
we included that in the equation. I'm also not judging
Toula for his wild attraction to Brad Pitt.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That's your business. They said, this is why he deserves
this verbal ass whopon see this, and this is how
you want to come back? Do your words?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
How about this? Did you like Top Gun Maverick? It
was okay, I mean, we're talking about this, Okay. Top
Gun Maverick was not great cinema. It was great fun.
It was a it was a wild ride. It was
an enjoyable moment of escapism. That's all I needed out
a whole movie called f One. If they got the
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racing scenes wrong, that I'd be right there with you,
because it had one job.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Let's get the racing scenes right.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Is it too much to ask that they actually fit
a decent story around the cool racing scenes. I like
the racing scenes. I like cars. I thought this story
was decent enough. That's just where we disagree. It wasn't
a great movie. This is something that I this was
my takeaway from it. I think Brad Pitt is entering
his Robert Redford phase in.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
The sixth set.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He's doing roles that are against type, and he can
fill up the screen by himself.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, I compared it to The Natural In fact, if
you remember.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I do remember thinking, I think that's an app comparison
in many respects, and he is. When I say the
golden age of his career, I think you're going to
see some of the best work of Brad Pitt because
he's not really an ensemble cast. He's literally and figuratively
driving this movie. I know who Damson Isteress is, but
he's not a star yet.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
He's not. No, we agree on one minor aspect of
this rotten movie. What what is the use the word rotten?
What did you guys think of the time length? Didn't
notice it?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
No, because it lies by so fast, more than two
and a half hours.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Because there was.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So much time on the various tracks. I don't want
to give it away, but they're like nine different races
that showed you.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean it's really speak And I really was
complaining going into the theater, like, oh man, with the trailers, this, that,
and the other, we're gonna not be out of there
till late and then by the top I literally And
because my daughter is such an F one fan, which
I did not know till getting in there, she's like, no,
this why this was why he couldn't do that because
he would have been banned from the track and maybe
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disqualified because she knows all this stuff about F one,
which is shocking to me. Her enjoyment, mind you, we
love We really enjoyed it. Man, it was a fun,
fun movie. I'm glad that you had a parental bonding experience.
I would never take that away from that. That's pretty cool.
So has she been into it for a while when
the movie? Yes, No, she she's been talking about this
movie since they first and that since actually Hamilton announced
(06:58):
it that he was gonna do it. She was like,
oh my god, they're actually going to do a movie
on F one. I've got to see it. And I'm
like what are you talking about? This is like a
year ago. I was on one of those apps.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I was into F one and Indy Car, which are
two different things, more so as a kid and young adult,
not in my more recent years. In the movie, they
make allusions to Senna and Schumacher and people from my
generation as a fan. I mean, I grew up watching
Mario Andretti, so I had some degree of familiarity with it.
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But I loved the in depth technical analysis of the sport,
which I read was pretty spot on.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
How they developed the cars analysts that I did not know.
They put everything into it. I'm like, don't you just race?
Don't you just go around in the circle?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Not at all? No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And it's okay for you to be wrong. Mark, it's
okay when it happened. When I'm going to be humble
about it as you would expect, you know what's really
interesting and chat, I need you to hear me on this.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
When we were going off about it, Mark literally threw
out a comparison to Kung Fu.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You got better.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
No, I threw it out there, but he co signed
that Kung Fu was a magnificent piece of work. You
really insist on dragging kung Fu into this Yes, yes,
because it impus your integrity as a film credit that
is so ignorant that I can't even be angry with
you about it. Because kung Fu is an acknowledged TV
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classic and it's beautiful, and most people by who they
don't humanity, No people with eyeballs that are attached to brain.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Noone is doing a kung Fu people who are into
BDSM what I'm just being? What a way to go?
What a way to go? I forgive you both, just
how magnanimous of you.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's Later with mo Kelly, Can't I Am six forty
Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio and one from one racing
movie to another. Vin Diesel says Paul Walker's Brian O'Connor
could return in Fast and Furious eleven. I'm not so
sure I want to see that. I'm They'll talk about
it next.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Family.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (09:20):
KFI AM six forty years Later with Mo Kelly. We're
live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app. We're
talking about f one last segment. This segment talk about
Fast and Furious. I have never been a huge fan
of the franchise. There are movies in the franchise that
I like, you know, this one, that one, but not
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all of them.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
And we all remember or we should remember that. I
didn't know why I should say we should say that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
There was a question of whether the franchise was going
to continue after the untimely death of Paul Walker back
in twenty thirteen, but it has gone on and they
have even had some visual allusions to him on screen.
They used his brother and some facial stuff that did
(10:14):
to make him look like his brother. But they're talking
about bringing back his character Brian O'Connor for Fast and
Furious eleven, and I was saying right before the break,
I don't know if I want that now. The reasoning
is Vin Diesel.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
This is what he had to say. Quote.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Just yesterday, I was with Universal Studios. The studio is
said to be Vin, can we please have the finale
of Fast and Furious In April of twenty twenty seven,
I said, under three conditions, because I've been listening to
my fan base. Those conditions were to bring the franchise
back to La return to its street racing roots, and
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reunite Dom and Brian in other words, Vin Diesel and
Paul Walker's character. That is what you're going to get
in the finale. I don't know how you're going to
do that. I guess you can, you know, use the
facial CGI and make Paul Walker's brother look like Paul Walker.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But it doesn't feel right. Both of Paul Walker's brothers
look a lot like him, so they do. There's not
a lot of CGI, and you would have to do
it's not it's not like the aging, which is a
lot rougher. You can do an overlay, just a general
overlay of Paul Walker onto Wonders brother, who, now that
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he's older, looks even more like Paul Walker did when
he last appeared as Brian O'Connor in the Fast franchise.
This is absolutely necessary. Paul Walker's daughter wants it, his
brother's run it, and the fans want it. I am
the fan of the franchise. I own all the DVDs.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, they're big proponents of that. Yes, okay, I granted
I'm in the minority in this regard. It just there's
something that begs it seems as if it's a it's
a little obscene, Yes, maybe that's the word. It just
seems like it's disrespectful to his memory. And I can't
speak over what the family's saying. I'm just saying it's
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just it's not like they're peaking on a woman taking
a bath. They're literally saying the fans want to see
the characters want to see this in Yo, We've invested
way too much times franchise. It just seems undignified to
do it, just seems undignified.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Twalla.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Were you a big fan of that commercial with dead
Fred Astaire dancing with the vacuum cleaner?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Because this is that look.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
I enjoyed, uh them digitizing who is it Peter Cushing
in Star Wars?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Who was that?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It was Peter? It was Peter Cushing.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I enjoyed seeing it because I said myself, that's great.
Keep that character alive.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
But he didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
But he didn't die quasi related to the Star Wars universe.
Paul Walker died basic car racing with his buddy in
a port.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
And and you know what you do with that? You
put him back on the road family and that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Right, bring it look, bring it back into like making
it more ground to getting away from.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
All the the craziness of going into space. Yeah, all that.
They're like, look, let's get let's end it where we start.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I know they're gonna have this, you know, this ten
second last race to close out the series.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
I know how it's all gonna lay.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
No, no, no, no, He's gonna have to play a
bigger part Brian, because we all been wanting to know,
because they keep mentioning Brian. Brian's over there, He's with
his family, Brian's with his kids, Brian is doing all this,
that and the other.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Bring Brian back. We want to by we want Brian. No,
we don't want Brian. We we don't, Yeah, we do.
I would Yeah, I wouldn't mind Paul Walker coming back.
I don't need the character Brian O'Connor back.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's one of the same.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know what if you know, it just feels like
it feels like you're trying to finish up The Crow
with Brandon Lee, and it seems for more about money.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Know that that was the finishing the Crow with digital
shots and and everything that they captured before.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Of Brandon Lee.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That was in an effort to bring that film to
the screen for the fans who have been begging.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
For Okay, see, we're back to fans again, and that's
that's my point. I don't believe I Look, who am
I to disagree with his family members? It just feels dirty.
But what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Are you saying that we can't have a digitized uh
Carrie Fisher to do some more Princess Lane.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It has to do with the tragic nature of how
he died.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh, come on, get look, get get off of your
sensitivity with car crashing with family.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Want Yeah, if they went against the fan like this,
actual family, that would be uncool.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But they're crazy. I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't trust family anyhow, because family they make decisions,
and family members in Hollywood is not always in the
best interests of the.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Would I would not want to see.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
A movie which had a helicopter scene with Vic Morrow's
face in it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Thank you for that? Okay, what what if? You know
what I'm talking about? You know what I'm talking about
that it's not the same thing.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You get cast Vic Morrow in the film. Say hey,
you know what, we've got a digital likeness. We're going
to finish this film that he never finished because his
head got cut off.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You don't want that how about some of this base
level human decency and not having to just milk money
out of every last thing.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
We act like they weren't going to do this film anyway,
but I don't do it. We act like Fast and
Fears isn't all about family. What better way, what better
tribute to the family than to have the of this character.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
You have this movie dedicated to the memory of Paul Walker.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They did that.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They did that in the last That's my point.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Fast and Furious weekend, it burns and he and call
it done. So now you're being dispecful.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Because you are attacking. You are attacking the dead. We
are lifting the dead up.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You are making fun of the dam, attacking the crass
leeches who want to resurrect the dead.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yes, yes, they don't have to do this.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And look we're not talking about some talking about some
cinematic masterpiece. This is not that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I just believe they can better honor him. I do.
Hang on though, you.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Said they went to the space in one of these Yes,
the Fiero. Okay, I want to say that Fiero with
duct tape.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That's why me and Tall are like, they're bringing it
back to basic bones, you know, Street racing. I get that,
I get that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And who better than one of the best street out
there like they are od Don Yes, no, you don't
need Don and Brian Butcher and Sand and Butch and
Sun Dance.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Anybody else you want to resurrect while you're at it. Look, look, no, no,
and no.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
We've had we've had this conversation on the show before
about the digital likenesses being licensed out and how everyone
will be coming back eventually.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
That is what they're doing in Hollywood. It's still gross.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Okay, well, then you guess what you can sit at
home with, you know, eat, love, prey, chocolate or whatever
film it is.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Why Why do they put James Dean in it as well?
Why anyone who's been in a car you put them
in a movie in a racing accident?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Jane Mansfield in it? Ye? Why not? Why not? You bake?
This is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
To a level that anyone with a car history in there.
That's not what it's about, fast, no, no, no, it is.
It is literally about honoring the memory of the character,
honoring what the fans want, what the family wants.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Start.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's all about family, and family want a piece of
that paycheck. Okay, why don't we do a scene of
chap equidic too? There you go, geez, since there are
no rules, why not?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Since we don't have to worry about respecting the dead
chap Aquitic. Yeah, put Teddy Kennedy in the next Fast
and Furious.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
She's dead too. Bring him back. Now, you guys are
just being good. I can't.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay, this is ridiculous. This is absolutely real. Wells died
in a car accident. I'm gonna start making a list
right now because of this. I'm gonna make sure they're
all in Fast and Furious. Since you have no morals.
K I AM six forty life everywhere in our Heart.
Ready about what I'm ashamed of you? I'm shamed.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
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Moe Kelly Live Everywhere in the iHeartRadio app And by
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in which a child fell into the water, went overboard
and a father which went into the water after the child.
And if you've noticed, no real discussion has been had
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as to how it happened or why it happened. And
since I've been on enough cruises, not Disney specifically, but
I've been on enough cruises to know pretty much how
they work, there's something that doesn't quite seem right with
this story, if only because a child cannot just fall
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overboard most cruise ships. Everyone I've been on, the railing
on the top deck comes up to like my armpit words,
I would have to climb up. I can't just fall
over as a grown ass man. A child cannot fall overboard.
That means that the child either was doing something he
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or she was not supposed to be doing as far
as climbing on something and unattended, or there is something else.
And if you've ever been on a cruise ship, there
are cameras everywhere just for that reason, because.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
They can't have actual.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Staff would have you every part of the ship at
all times seeing what is going on. If there happens
to be an emergency, if there happens to be a
security related issue, if there happens to be a fight,
anything like that, you need to be able to have
cameras on just about every portion of the ship.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's it is like a surveillance state. You are not
going anywhere on that ship.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Especially on one of the upper level decks where you're
out where you're not actually on camera. It doesn't say
that the child fell off a balcony like a state
room balconty. So I'm saying that she's he or she
probably fell from one of the common areas from the
fourth deck into the water. There's something which doesn't seem
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quite right with this story because of the lack of details.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And I say that to say Disney Cruise knows exactly
what happened. They have video.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I bet dollars to donuts they have video exactly of
what happened, and they are reserving sharing that information for
any number of reasons. Quote, we are on the Disney
Dream at sea today and just witnessed a first on
a cruise. A little girl fell overboard and her dad
jumped overboard to try to save her. Man overboard calls
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went up immediately. This Disney crew went into action asap.
Lots of praying folks on this ship, but the little
girl and dad were both successfully rescued. Next Dwayne Smith,
who wrote on a public post on Facebook he was
on the cruise at the time. Here's what Disney Cruise
Line shared, though in the form of a statement very
nonspecific quote. The crew aboard the Disney Dreams swiftly rescued
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two guests from the water. Didn't say how they got
in the water. Notice that we commend our crew members
for their exceptional skills and prompt actions, which ensured the
safe return of both guests to the ship within minutes.
We are committed to the safety and well being of
our guests, and this incident highlights the effectiveness of our
safety protocols. Close quote nothing about what actually happened or
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why it happened. Now, if you've ever been on a
cruise ship, and I have, they're only like two real
places in which you could go overboard, let's say three.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
If you're on one of the upper decks where you'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
The pool where you'll see the people's son, that is
one of those places you have direct access to the water.
If you want to jump over the rail, you'll probably
end up in the water. The second is along inside
where you have like the restaurant area. Most of these
cruise ships they have like a sliding window where you
can look out. You can feasibly, in theory, open up
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the window and then jump your ass through, but it
takes a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
It's a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And third part is if you're on your in your
if you have a stateroom with a balcony, your room
has a balcony, then in theory, you could jump off
your balcony, but usually these these are these ships are
built like a trap, is weid.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
You can see the picture on our YouTube.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So if you jumped out of your stateroom balcony, you're
going to bounce off the side of the ship on
the way down. So that says to me they are
probably on one of the top decks to have that
direct path to the water. Not trying to be more
but just give you a sense of what the ships
are like. There's something that's really missing in this story,
and it's fundamental to whether this was an accident, whether
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this was negligence, some combination of both. But Disney Cruise
Lines was very careful not to give you any details.
We haven't heard from the father, we haven't heard any
update about the child, and that is all very intentional.
I'm not saying that anyone's particularly wrong. I'm not saying
it's something that the father did do or didn't do.
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I'm just saying I'm noticing the deafening silence surrounding the particulars.
And there's going to be more which is going to
come out on this story, because there's no If you
look at the other incidents where someone goes in the water,
they almost always tell you immediately someone jumped, someone fell, X,
Y or Z lost their bout. You usually get some
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sort of information to accompany the story. We're getting nothing.
And you bet you're ass there's video because there's twala.
You know, there's no place you go walk on that
ship and there's not video unless you're in.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Your stadios on every edge that ship all around unless
for some reason another Disney cruises just forbids cameras along
the deck. But you can see the cameras when I
was out there chilling watching the water, just everywhere there's
a camera that I love. Look the story, it's beautiful.
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Kid went overboard, father jumped in. It's a harrow fil
This is made for a Disney movie. I know for
a fact that if my child, and my child is
grown and I'm on the boat with him and I
was worried about him possibly being drunk and going over
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because we know we've seen the water you've looked down
that water has nothing to play with. I have also
seen when I was on that ship. I saw kids
running around on the deck with parents who weren't really
halfway paying attention, and I said to myself, this deck
is awfully slippery. If if one of these kids was
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to get up on that ledge, oh they're going over quick.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But they would have video of it. They would yeah. Yeah.
So I'm saying this. We're going to watch the story.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
There's probably more to come out in the coming days,
because clearly there's a liability issue here and no one
is saying anything about anything. When we come back, I'll
have my final thought and has to do with immigration.
And also an email from a former listener.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Before we go, let me give this email and thought.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I saw a listener email right before the show started
and kind of set up what I wanted to say tonight.
This comes from Joanne Elle. I'm not going to give
her last name. She says some un nice nanks. Later on,
this is from Joanne quote, Moe, don't know what's happened
to you. No longer listen to your show. First, very
long drawn out argument about sharing food, plus Tuala announcing
(27:02):
that he would never share food forks, et cetera, even
though his quote, mouth has been all over every part
of a woman's body.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Close quote. Then last night a few about a week ago, you.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Got all arrogantly dramatic about ice only supposed to be
arresting criminal illegal aliens.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Spoiler alert, mo.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Anyone who crosses our border illegally is a criminal, and
the plan has always been to deal with those illegals
who have egregious criminal records first, then every other illegal
can no longer take you getting on your high horse
or your disgusting locker room talk.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Love Joanne. So, I guess we're down to three listeners.
We had four.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Now with the exit of Joanne, we're down to three.
But I did want to address her email, and she
emailed us at later with mo Kelly at gmail dot com.
I'll skip over the sharing of food stuff, you know,
in Tuala's mouth, which supposedly has been over every part
of a woman's body. I don't want to subject Joanne
to any necessary locker room talk. I know she's listening
right now, but my hope is when anyone has real
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strong feelings about a subject I discuss or takes issue
with a stance I have, you at least start from
a standpoint of accuracy. I'm so tired of people trying
to tell me about things I did not say. Nobody
is unclear as to whether crossing the border illegally is illegal.
Absolutely nobody, and you yourself, Joeanne said, and I quote,
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the plan has always been to deal with those illegal
who have egregious criminal records first, then every other illegal close.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Quote that's what you typed Joe Anne. On this show,
we pointed that out.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We agreed that that was the original plan sold to
us by the Trump administration. But instead, instead we've gotten
raids at home depot, churches, asylum hearings, elementary schools, et cetera.
I pointed out the quote unquote egregious criminals. Your words
are not going to be found at any of those places,
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So there's a disconnect in terms of word. Indeed, also
something else you may not know about me, Joanne and
anyone else listening. I care about people more than anything else,
and I make no apologies for that you refer to
them as quote unquote illegals as if they're things unworthy
of humane or lawful treatment. I may be wrong, but
(29:22):
that's the sense I get. Immigration law is not the
discussion or debate right now in America. It's not about immigration.
I'd submit that this debate is about the methods and
tactics being used, the people who are being targeted versus
the people not being targeted, the cities being targeted versus
cities not being targeted.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's only happening in like La and democratic cities. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's worthy of discussion legally being undocumented in America.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And I've said this before, I need to say it again.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's statutorily no different than a citation like speeding or littering.
And I made that fact actually accurate point previously. Maybe
you didn't hear it the first time. And I wouldn't
want anyone having their door kicked in or blown off
the hinges, or having law enforcement showing up at my
child's school or my family's church and also employing violence
(30:14):
to meet out justice for littering or speeding. And I
don't think you would either, not if you remembered. We're
talking about actual people, my friends. Who I think of
is like family who this directly impacts hailed from Guatemala, Mego, Onduras,
and other places like Russia and Germany, not all Latino
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or Hispanic, and some are listening right now.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Many of them are documented US.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Citizens, but not necessarily, not necessarily their whole family family
members of theirs I also know personally, and it's easy
to disregard someone's humanity if you don't see them as people.
Since you were bothered by my stance, I feel compelled
to be absolutely clear. People should follow the law immigration
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or not immigration, no doubt, follow the law. But if
you're deporting people while they are literally in process of
following the law at an asylum hearing, then it's worth
calling it out.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
If you're using.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Methods which are unlawful in terms of abuse or robbing
them of their rights which they do have in this
country per the Constitution and the fourteenth Amendment, then yes,
it's worth calling out. Because Joanne, you're against illegals as
in illegal behavior right well, that also entails actions by ice.
(31:36):
So jo Anne, I'm sorry that we may have lost
you as a listener. I tell people all the time,
this show is not for everyone. Not everyone is going
to enjoy everything, every subject or every commentator, and I'm
okay with that.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
We can be juvenile, I admit it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
We could be borderline, vulgar, preachy, or reverend whatever word
you want to use, guilty as charge. I'm not going
to fight you on that. But there will be more
locker room talk in the future, I guarantee you. But
here's the most important point. I hope to never lose
my humanity when discussing these serious issues. What's happening right
now in the news, is happening in my community, is
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happening to people I know and I love. It's happening
to people both documented and undocumented. And if my nuanced
expression balancing the law and people should still offend you,
I wish you well, because at the end of every
show I have to be able to look these same
people in the eye, and they have to know that
even if they and I don't agree on the issue
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of immigration, and believe you me, we don't agree, we
do not agree. They, though, don't ever have to worry
that I will say anything which denies or denigrates or
disavows their humanity. For k if I am six forty,
I'm mo Kelly
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Kaspy and kost Hd two Los Angeles, Orange County more stimulated.
Later, with Mo'Kelly News
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