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September 4, 2025 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – 'Wellness Wednesday' with wife, mother, fitness expert, masterful storyteller & regular guest contributor Claudine Cooper AKA ‘The Nice Exercise Lady’ weighing in on the American Heart Association awarding wellness grants to 69 schools across the country in an effort to support “healthier learning environments” AND the proper way to make a PB&J…PLUS – Residents of a Southern California nudist resort are livid over new rules forcing them to either wear clothes or face eviction - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app & YouTube @MrMoKelly
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
A M six.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Forty listen says, it should work out.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
This bat workout KFI. It's Later with Mo Kelly.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
We're live everywhere on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. I've
been away on vacation, and before that, Clauding Cooper was
away on vacation. Now our schedules have finally meshed for
once in a good long while.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Clauding Cooper's great to see you.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
It's great to be back.

Speaker 6 (01:01):
Mo.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
How was your trip? It was absolutely wonderful. It was
just long enough. I didn't feel as if like, oh
my gosh, I wish I had another week.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
It was enough.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I don't like living out of a suitcase. Yeah, so
it was time to come home.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Question. You know, I know you were on a cruise.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
Yes, And I've never been on a cruise myself, so
I'm curious. What's the food situation when you're on a cruise.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
There are two real answers to that.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
There's formal dining where you go and have the formal
sit down dinner, and you have maybe one or one
to four options that you can choose from on a
given night. Yeah, and you usually wear something that's not
shorts and a T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
That's the formal dining.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Is it required.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Usually they've relaxed some of that over the years. They
used to have like a captain's dinner in the middle
of the week if it's a week long cruise and
you get to meet the captain, everyone dresses up, they
take pictures, but they've moved away from that.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's formal dining.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And then you have, at least on Royal Caribbean, they
have what's called the Windjammer, which is a super buffet
of more food and gluttony that you can ever imagine
from appetizers to dessert and everything in between. And depending
on the port that you're in or going to, they'll
usually craft the cuisine to reflect Like we were going

(02:17):
in the Mikonos, they would have euros and other.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
Greek food fetaka, kalamados and the whole nine. You know,
it's funny because I've heard that, So that was the
part I was trying to get to. I've heard that
it's a lot of eating and a lot of drinking.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It is what you make it to be, okay.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
In other words, you can buy a drink package or
you can you know, eat yourself into a coma, or
you can go to the other end of the spectrum
and you can see the people who are working out
religiously two and three times a day, which is consistent
with this conversation. And I remember that I posted the
first morning I was on the cruise, got up real early,

(02:59):
went to them, and you'll see the same people who
are working out. So and the gyms are rather elaborate,
and they're big enough where people are doing yoga and
different matt work and they're free weights.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Did you say gyms plural on a cruise ship.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah, more than one, Yeah, depending on the cruise ship
and line. Absolutely, wow, because one one may not be
enough to accommodate the number of people on a cruise ship.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
This one that I was on, now they.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Had a formal gym and more like a workout area
in addition to that.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
You know, it's it's peaking my interest first and foremost.
And my husband will tell you I'd love a good buffet.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh, Twala can tell you firsthand.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
It's it's look, Las Vegas has nothing on a cruise ship.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, okay, so you got to get you on a
cruise ship. Sometimes.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
I know, I got your text about potentially going on
a cruise in twenty twenty six, so I'm going.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
To keep that in mind in my mind. We'll see. Yeah,
my husband hates buffets though, by the way, but.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
No, there, they're put it this way. You can walk around.
Let's just talk about this the whole segment. Their places
are especially Yal Royal Caribbean, which we use, where you
can go get pizza or you can get a steak.
They have restaurants on the ship. In addition, they had
a sushi bar as well. They were giving classes on

(04:24):
how to.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Make a sushi roll or something. Yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
So you're not limited to the buffet, but the buffet
provides the convenience of I'm hungry now and I don't
want to wait fifteen twenty minutes for my food to
be prepared. I love the buffet option in the morning
for breakfast, so I can get my omelet made to order, yeah,
and all the other stuff that I want alongside it.
And of course you can get your fruit, you can

(04:49):
get your salad at any time. Yeah, there are plenty
of options. It's gluttoning.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
It's definitely something that I would like to do in
my lifetime is at least I do get motion sickness.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
And that started when I was a child.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
If I was in a car for a long period
of time, I would start to get sick and it
still affects me to this day, so boats, cars, planes,
that motion just it doesn't stay right with me.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Twalla had the same concern, and you can either get
He can tell you you can get a pill or
a patch. Okay, there's a patch I think you put
at the base of your neck right behind your ear,
which helps with motion sickness.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
And I think there's also like a drama mein pill
as well. Well.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
As a child, I did used to have a dramamine
pill to take when we would go anywhere, like on
a road trip, and that's one of the reasons to
this day I still really don't like road trips because
you will take a dramamine and although it'll curb the
motion sickness, you are still feeling that drowsiness for hours

(05:57):
after you've taken it.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I've always likned it.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
And this is going to sound weird, but if you've
been in California and you've been in a light earthquake,
we have just a little bit of motion. That's what
it feels like. And for me, it's soothing because it's
almost like rocking yourself to sleep. For me, it's no
better sleep than sleeping on a cruise where you have
that just you just have that very subtle feel to it.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now it's different.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
If you are at the back of the ship and
you're closer to the engine, you're going to feel it
more as opposed to the other portions. But those are
the things that you learn after multiple cruises, things that
you want to do, things that you try to avoid.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
Well, I know I'm taking up all of our time
talking about your cruise, but I'm so interested. But I
know we were going to talk about these wellness grants
that they've been giving to schools.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yes, so let's just ease it to the topic. Okay,
we'll table the cruise ship.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
We'll talk about the cruise ship when we think about
what we're doing for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
But tell me more about this grant situation.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
The American Heart Association, they've given out sixty nine grants
to six nine schools to support healthier communities nationwide. You
may not know, but only one in four children here
in the country gets the recommended amount of daily physical activity,
and about one in three it's overweight or obese. That
doesn't surprise me at all. I'm surprised that the numbers

(07:18):
aren't more distressing. But from where you sit in, your
children are a little bit closer to school age as
far as matriculating than mine.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I wonder if anyone gets any.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Type of exercise because they don't have recess in the
traditional sense anymore, and I don't think they feature PE
like they used to once.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Upon a time.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
Okay, so I should start by saying that I'm a
public school child, my children were public school kids, and
that I also have worked with the American Heart Association
for over ten years. So two things are at play here.
Public school programming is being cut. That's just on many electives,
anything from art to music to PE and things like that.

(08:05):
My children actually did have PE in their public schools.
In their middle school, they had what's called CrossFit PE
where they literally run them through a CrossFit style workout.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's due. I haven't heard of that, So it just.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
Depends on the school.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
But I know that they're trying to find ways to
incorporate PE back into the programming due to the rates
of obesity and overweight children.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Has the idea of obesity changed?

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Because I went to the doctor yesterday and they do
the kind of the body mass index, and you would
think that, well, what is termed as obese now doesn't
usually jibe with what our concept of obeses. If you're
like fifteen pounds of aweight your quote unquote obese. Has
there always been that way or what has the definition changed?

Speaker 6 (09:03):
So it's hard for me to say, because I do
operate more from body mass index and not as much
from the scale. In fact, with the people that exercise
with me, I often tell them throw your scale away
because they're evil. They're evil and people go on the
scale every day, they get obsessive. It can make their

(09:23):
day or it can break their day. I mean, why
do that to yourself. I'm not in your life, and
I hope you don't do that, because honestly, you can
go from drinking a lot of water weighing yourself and
the next thing you know, you're up a few pounds.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
You know, I try to use that as a positive reinforcement.
I'll get up in the morning, I'll do my morning
run to the bathroom, and I should say, I weigh myself,
then I go to the bathroom, and then I come
back to the scales like, yeah, I lost four.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
Pounds exactly right, right, So you get You know, there's
different times of the day you can weigh yourself, there's
different things that you eat that will retain weight, there
are things, there are ways that you can drop four
or five pounds in a day.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
I say all that to say that the scale itself
wouldn't be how I would necessarily.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Diagnose someone for being overweight or obie. So I don't know,
I say, throw the scale away.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's me.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Since we're talking food on your personal social media, you
had a question you put out there.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'll let you tell the question and that'll be the tease. Okay,
next segment.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
All right, So basically I.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Put it on social media because we were debating it
in my plates class. We talked about the peanut butter
and jelly sandwich. We said, does everybody eat peanut butter
and jelly sandwiches? And what was most alarming is that
some people have never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes, no, but.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
More peanut butter or more jelly. And we'll talk about
that when we get.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Back, it's Later with mo Kelly. Claudine Cooper joins us
in the studio on Wellness Wednesday. Were everywhere in the
iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
As we continue Wellness Wednesday here on Later with Moe Kelly.
Last segment, we had Clauding Cooper set up to tease
as far as peanut butter and jelly sandwiches go ahead,
Clauding reset it.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
The first thing is in my classes, I always do
my best to try to get to know the people
who take the classes. It's not enough for me to
just work you out. I still want you to actually
build community and make friends in the class. So we
talk about a really light topic almost every day. The
topic I came up with was because I love peanut

(11:43):
butter and jelly sandwiches, more peanut butter.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
More jelly.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
But the most alarming part was there were people who
had never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
How is that possible?

Speaker 6 (11:56):
A few of them said they're picky, they don't like
peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
How can they say that if they've never had it.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
It doesn't look appetizing.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, all right, all.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Right, So I weighed in on that because you posted
it on your social media. Yes, always more peanut butter
is better. And what I mean by that is I
grew up. I would eat just peanut butter sandwiches. I
didn't need the jelly. The jelly too much. Jelly makes
it too sweet. And I like the taste of peanut butter,
especially crunchy. You know, any bits of peanuts in there

(12:31):
gotta be crunchy. Oh, it can't look like this. Whatever
is this?

Speaker 5 (12:36):
On YouTube?

Speaker 6 (12:36):
It can said nasty ass peanut butter and jelly sandwiches,
And no, no, no, we need the crunchy and we
need the light jelly. But then Chris on Facebook was saying,
oh you like a peanut more peanut butter, you must
like a glue stick on the top of the roof

(12:58):
of your mouth.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I was like, just eat smaller bites. I mean, it's
not that damn hard.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
One thing I love to do, though, I love to
find these little topics where people disagree. You like it
like this, I like it like this and still have
fun while debating a subject that's not so heavy that
we have to argue to the death. You know, it's

(13:26):
just something to show people we can disagree, we can
have different perspectives, but yet at the end of the day,
we can laugh.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
We can still be friends.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
I don't have to assassinate your character just because you
like jelly, but but it's more fun to assassinate something
I like that I know.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You like.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
See me.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I like to keep it light.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I like to just find out do you eat peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches? And going back to what you
were saying earlier about the schools that are getting awarded
these wellness grants, I want to say that those kids
that I come in contact now with are eating highly
processed foods. And if we talk about peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches, one of the things my son loves. He

(14:11):
loves uncrustables, and an uncrustable is a pre made peanut
butter and jelly.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
My wife buys those all the time. I took one
bite out of an uncrustable and I threw it in
the trash.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Can throw it into it, can't?

Speaker 4 (14:25):
It's not peanut butter and jelly. It's like a peanut sandwich.
Of peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
It's just it's almost like they mix the peanut butter
and the jelly.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Right, Yes, I mean mine separated, and that's a highly
processed version of the old school favorite a peanut butter
and jelly sandwich. So the thing I really do feel
like has increased the obesity of our children is the process,
because we're eating similar things, but the process is different.
If you eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in

(14:56):
the house and you make it yourself with your own
peanut butter, with your our own jelly, it's got a
different effect than if you buy a frozen uncrustable, drop
it in the freezer, and now it can stay in
there for thirty five years and still be edible.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
There's a process on it.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
And also higher and sodium as preservatives go. Yeah, all
of it is bad in that regard. My wife likes them.
I won't touch the uncrustables. I'm not to pick on them.
I'm just saying I'd rather make it myself.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
And with a lot of the foods that we see
children eating right now, they're getting so far away from
making it themselves because we are in an instant society,
not just with food, but with a lot of different things.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
In seventh grade, yes, my teacher was Mitzi Edwards, don't
ask me why I remember that, and they called it
home eck back then. Yes, we learn cooking, sewing, just
general skills that you'd be able to use. Do they
have homech anymore?

Speaker 5 (16:01):
They do not have homech.

Speaker 6 (16:03):
I will say that my daughter, my second born daughter specifically,
was an avid chef, and to this day she cooks
really great meals when she's in the mood. But for
the most part, the effort that it takes to cook
a really good meal is prep time, cook time, wait time,

(16:25):
clean time, and so she'd rather go get something to eat,
because again, going back to what we have encountered with
our children and the way that they're being raised in
the culture of technology, is that they would rather just
zone out on the phones, or they would rather have
something really quick that doesn't require patients.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
In time, so they're lazy and won't get off their
ass to cook something. Going back to home meck, I
learned how to cook French toasts hmmm, as one of
the first dishes we learn. And if you're not old
enough to know homek is sure for home economics, that's
right where you would learn these skills, these life skills
which will help you along.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Part of it was cooking.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
We'll learn how to make French toast, with the french,
with the vanilla extract, all of that in the cinnamon.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I still make it to this day.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
And I wonder if kids today, and I call them
kids young adults, are learning anything like that in a
school environment. I don't know if they have wood shop. Well,
I don't know if they have metal shop anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
We actually had an automotive classes where you would learn
about cars, how to change oil, check the carburetor, back
when cars had carburetors. I don't know what kids actually
learn that they can apply to life outside of their academics.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
Okay, So as a mother who has recent graduates, one
who's getting ready to graduate college, one graduated high school,
and one in high school, I can tell you that
although they're not learning wood shop and they're not learning
automotive repair as they did when we were in high school,
we're in a new world and we have to embrace

(18:10):
the fact that they don't need automotive You just said
back when you're hard drive right, they would rather take
an uber. What they are learning, and what I'm learning
from my children is how to move with technology, and
how to build with technology, how to sell with technology,

(18:31):
how to market with technology. There are so many more
things that they are learning that we've never had to apply,
but that applied to this brand.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
New world, making me feel awful. Damn old, I'll tell you,
out of touch.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
And obsolete and going through a late super late midlife
crisis right about now.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Well, don't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
What I will tell you is this, It's never too
late to learn something.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Old dog new tricks. Clauding Cooper, have you started back
your free workouts yet?

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Saturday is our lunch day. So this Saturday, nine am
at the Hollywood Park retail District in Inglewood, California, right
on the SOFI Stadium campus, I will be hosting a
free community workout open to all, and that is nine
am and the drive in is on ninety seventh in Prairie.

(19:30):
The parking is validated, the Farmer's Market is adjacent to
the workout, and.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
The workout is going to kick your ass, you know,
I mean, no, no.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
No, no, You can do as much as you want.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Times and I didn't like you either time.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
We don't have to be friends during the workout, but
afterwards it's all good.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Marketing to come out and join us one time.

Speaker 6 (19:50):
Absolutely not thank you Mark for not lying to me.
I appreciate you save time, Yes it does.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's Later with bo Kelly.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Clauding is always great to so you hopefully won't be
so long before we see you again.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I hope I'm here next week, see you guys soon.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
KFI Mister mo Kelly.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
It's Later with mo Kelly Live everywhere on YouTube at
mister Mokelly and the iHeartRadio app. And let me tell
you about this newdist resort. You would think that if
you're at a newdist resort, life would be simpler, but
maybe not. A group of current and former residents at
a southern California nudist resort are suing the new owners,

(20:42):
alleging that these new owners are forcing the nudists to
wear clothes, and they've been threatened with eviction, and allegedly
they're enduring unsafe living conditions. The lawsuit was filed by
tenants of Olive Dell Ranch and Colton and acclaim the
new management has neglected the property and they're trying to

(21:06):
make it so uncomfortable for the nudists whether they'll be
more inclined to move out. This is Nancy Reader, one
of the residents, says, quote, we're just trying to survive.
We're in survival mode at this point. Residents say problems
began shortly after the property changed hands. Notices appeared in
mailboxes informing tenants that clothing would be required within the

(21:28):
park at all times. Yeah, that probably would be inconvenient
and probably discouraging to would be nudists. I've never been
quote unquote to a nude beach. I've kind of driven
by one, been near one, but I've never participated in one.

(21:49):
If you're from southern California, you probably know about Blacks
Beach in San Diego.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
You don't know about black speech. Do tell it's a
nude beach in San Diego.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
I remember remember I'd gone by it, literally buy it
because I was thinking about attending UC San Diego. So
this is decades ago, and some of the students who
were taking me around touring the campus has said and
there's also black speech.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
The Nude Beach.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
A lot of students may hang out there at times,
and I said, wow, really and they took me by it,
and then you see the reality.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
It's like, m well, that's the unfortunate truth. The irony
about nudism is that people who tend to be nudists
aren't the ones you want to see without their clothes.
And I can vouch for this personally because a friend
of mine in college used to come pick me up
when he was driving an ice cream truck to go
to a nude beach and Spokane, Washington. He didn't want
to go by himself. It creeped him out. And all

(22:45):
these shagging, leathery people who would approach the ice cream truck. Definitely,
the people you want to see naked don't want to
be naked in public.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's never Baywatch. No, it is not Baywatch.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
And I always say when it comes to this or
you know, swingers parties, the idea of it is usually
way better than the reality.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Now, when you say that the new owner of the
Nude Beach isn't maintaining the property, are you suggesting he
doesn't maintain a well trimmed lawn.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
You're lucky that Tony knows nothing about the rim shot
sound effects, so you know I would have given you
one on that one.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I count on him for nothing. I wish people could
see what Tony was doing in the camera. You know,
we have a.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Live YouTube, Tony. They saw that out there now. But
I've never had any real desire to participate in a
nude beach.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Are you afraid that something would happen?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
No, No, not at all, Because there are certain things
that I've done in my past. I can't say that
I'm proud of. Oh really, but I've done some stuff. Wait,
specify the stuff, Okay, I did along with my fraternity brothers,
we did a semi nude step show presentation at a

(24:11):
strip club, a women's strip club. I don't know what
that means. You've never heard of a step show. No
African American fratorneys and sororities. They do this rhythmic dance
where they perform in unison and me and my fraternity
brothers we got up there like g strings and everything
and did a rhythmic synchronized performance for the ladies.

Speaker 8 (24:35):
You do the little helicopter thing with your please say no, yeah,
you're talking about like the Baby Elephants.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Don't I don't.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
I don't want to know anymore, and I don't want
to picture it like Devo whip it, whip it good,
don't whip it absolutely, keep.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
It tucked in. You're the one who wanted specifics. Okay,
I suppose you're right.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
Tony Didney as verse specifics. I was immediately sorry.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
That'll learn you talking about education the time, right you
look at the time. Okay, let's talk about Superman Man
of Tomorrow when we come back. It's on deck for
July twenty twenty six. And what does that mean in
the wake of Superman, which just came out about a
month and a half ago.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Are we already ready for another Superman movie? We'll find out.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
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the most anticipated or the most promotion behind it, was Superman,
the new entry from DC Studios, directed, written, and directed

(25:59):
by James Gunn, who also runs the DC Film unit,
and there was a lot of hype behind the movie.
If you look at the I'll say the returns, it
didn't even do as well as Man of Steel, and
that was the bench mark. That was the comparison point.

(26:21):
Man of Steel by Zack Snyder, the last Warner Brothers
wonder Kind, and they were very different in presentations. James
Gunn Superman, which came out in July this year, was
much brighter. It was lighter as far as the thematically
what it was delivering, and the Man of Steel was

(26:41):
much darker, brooding, serious.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
It was completely different idea of Superman.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
So you had the fan bases argue with each other
as far as which was better. What we find out
now is with James Gunn, he's really leaning into his
Superman universe. And I say this with great affection for
James Gunn. I don't think everything he does is a hit,
but I like what he does generally. Superman came out

(27:10):
this past July. As I was saying, they expect to
have super Girl for next summer, and I don't know
if I'm going to be eagerly anticipating that, but they've
announced today that Man of Tomorrow, Superman, Man of Tomorrow
is going to be coming out in July of twenty

(27:30):
twenty seven. I wonder, because I will say, the lukewarm
overall success of this latest Superman movie, whether it's enough
to generate the momentum to propel Supergirl next year and
Man of Tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
You keep saying luke warm, and you keep your overall
interpretation of this film is.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Somehow it did not do goodwin.

Speaker 9 (27:54):
It is the highest grossing superhero film that we have
had in a long time in a market that.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Is just in overa no, no, no, no, no, just period.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
Because DC has had some very successful films, to our chagrin,
films we have absolutely despised just being DC films. You know,
The Joker and even the Joker too of folio crap.
Both of those did very well for for just box
office films.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
But this film is actually was not making a value
judgment about the movie. I'm saying the movie luke warm
is a value judgment. No, the box office was luke warm.
That's not luke warm.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Okay, it did not do as well as the previous
iteration of Superman Man of Steel.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Okay, Well, I mean that's just movies go.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Well, okay, but all I'm saying is I don't know
in a momentum sense whether that's gonna be enough to
propel super Girl, where you know that you have a
smaller audio for Supergirl than he would Superman.

Speaker 9 (29:03):
I think that they're building up the hype for Supergirl,
and I think that Supergirl's appearance in Superman was so
well received based on on what the story is about.
I think that people are gonna love it and the
fact that they've put in so many draws that people

(29:24):
within the superhero fandom community. Just having Jason Momoa debut
as Lobo, a character that literally is one of the
most desired DC characters that people want to see on
the big screen. The audience have been clamoring for Lobo

(29:44):
from Jump like it is a character that we're dying
to see and dying to see done right. And even
when Jason Momo was cast as Aquaman, everyone said, dude,
you totally missed the mark by not casting him as Lobo.
This is one of those those moments where we are
going to get absolute greatness. Because I swear James Jason

(30:06):
Moon He's born to play Lobo.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
This is gonna be phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
What almost happening, right, I hope. So I'm saying it
again as a fan of James Gunn. I'm just looking
at the trajectory where Superman was expected and hoped to
do some eight hundred million or so.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
No, No, it actually was not. It actually was not.
I know. That's why I'm like, I'm not not that Tony.
Someone was not supposed to make a billion. Yes, that was.
It was not supposed to.

Speaker 10 (30:35):
Then in the end he said, we will take a double,
is what James Gunn said. And a success million worldwide
isn't even a double.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
You're interpreting it not being an absolute smash success with
being a filiure man.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
It did well.

Speaker 9 (30:49):
No one, no one, No one from from not not
not the new head of Warner Brothers, nor James Gunn
or Peter Softron. No one said that this film was
going to do a billion. They were literally worried that
it would not do as well as it did because
of all of the Snyder broke and the and the

(31:09):
hate campaign against it before it even came out. No
one said that they compared they wanted it or thought
it was going to do a billion.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
No one, what's the comparison point? I mean, are you
saying that it would been a non success if it
only brought in five hundred million.

Speaker 9 (31:25):
If it would have only brought in uh just barely
enough to cover the cost of it, that would have
been a problem. If it would have just done two
hundred million, that would have been like, ooh, this is
this is a problem for this launch. It made its
money back and then some and so it's fine. Oh yeah,
no it did it did it?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Literally didn't know.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
It did, do you know?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
With all the marketing and promotion and the Super Bowl commercial?

Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah no, dust, Now look it didn't bring in Madame
Webb you okay, no, it did.

Speaker 10 (32:01):
Okay, Now the authority is totally gonna wait, what's gonna
save him?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Right?

Speaker 9 (32:06):
I don't think most uns Yeah, yeah, not not don't
know that, That's what I'm saying. Like, but James, James good, No,
it wasn't. It was supposed to be next. James Gunn
is a comic book fan, and James Gunn has even said, like,
you know what, I'm making a movie for people who
are fans of Superman, fans of the comic and if

(32:28):
everyone doesn't get it, okay, I'm okay with that. I'm
tired of making movies that have to cater to an
audience that's like, well, I don't really know. There are
literally people who are like, since when did Superman get
his powers from the sun?

Speaker 2 (32:42):
These are some of the critiques of.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
The overall film, and Tony, you know, that's a ridiculous
critique for foreign for critics to have. How is he
trapped somewhere where he can't get the sun and he's weaker?

Speaker 2 (32:53):
He's Superman. It's like these idiotic.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
Reviews of people who don't know Superman is what James
Gunn is making movies for. He's movies to say, you
know what, you can burn in hell. I'm okay with that.
That's fine. I'm making movies for people who love comic
books and are fans.

Speaker 10 (33:09):
Of the Stephen James Gunn said. He said he doesn't
he didn't get Superman for a long time.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
He did. I don't get Superman because he did.

Speaker 10 (33:15):
He's because he likes the newer style comics with like
all dystopian you know, the boys and all that stuff.
That's what he likes. That's what he wants to do,
so he can't do Superman. Eric says or asked, are
you on the DC payroll. Oh my god, Eric, you
know better. You know that I love everything nerdy and

(33:35):
I've been waiting for Superman to be done right, and
damn it, it was.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It was.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
It was really good. I'll tell you the one that
baffles me. They're making a Clayface movie. And I have
no idea. Who was clown out for that? One?

Speaker 9 (33:46):
Wants now here's the that's a one shot, now here's
the and and and it could be and and he is.
You know, I'm really interested to see why you're doing
a clay Face And again, this is gonna be a
horror film. This is not this is not just your
run of the mill. This isn't like you see where
a WRL film at night. He's not trying to do,
you know, like a Sony universe of anti hero Spider

(34:09):
Man villains who are actually saving today. He's he's actually
making this a horror film. And he's like, clay Face
plays us some really grotesque you know body, you know
horror and I want to get into that.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
And I'm like, okay, Well, the thing is James Gunn
has built up enough goodwill that I'll check it out.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
But boy, do we not need that I look, I'm
gonna see it. I think we're all going to see it.
Then we manage our expectations accordingly.

Speaker 10 (34:38):
Yeah, so will the clay Face movie be as good
as it was in the Batman animated series?

Speaker 8 (34:42):
Well, they're basically not on that, aren't they. Aren't they
basing it on one of the stories from the animated Batman?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Well, James Gun he always does, and he pulls from
the source material.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
He's not just making up some stuff and then say
this is gonna be clay Face. He always pulls directly
from source material. Gun is a true nerd.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
He goes deep, he does, but he keeps showing his
Trauma roots too.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's like, stop it.

Speaker 8 (35:05):
Then, I don't think Trauma and DC going to say
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