October 29, 2025 • 21 mins
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Everything we know about 3I/ATLAS. Six words every killer should know: ‘I feared for my life, officer.’ CEOs are furious about employees texting in meetings. Meet the young Americans who want a monarchy… but not Trump.
Everything we know about 3I/ATLAS. Six words every killer should know: ‘I feared for my life, officer.’ CEOs are furious about employees texting in meetings. Meet the young Americans who want a monarchy… but not Trump.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Nine.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Bill Handle Here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It is a Wednesday morning, October twenty nine. Some of
the big stories we're looking at. President Trump has said
when asked and now there's some kind of movement saying
third term, third term. When asked about it, he said,
it's pretty clear the US Constitution does not permit him
to run for a third term in office.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Pretty clear.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's crystal clear. It is completely clear. It's unequivocally clear.
It's clear. It's insanely clear. He can't do it, and
he's admitting it. But I'm sure he's having a great
time with this.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
There's yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I mean, one of the things the president does is
he has a great times. Matter of fact, he loves
being president. He said that just as some people hate it,
some presidents couldn't wait to get the hell out. And
I think Donald Trump is going to be not very
happy when he leaves because he enjoys it so much. Okay,
I want to talk about alien beings. There is some
(01:13):
kind of maybe it's a comet, maybe it isn't moving
towards Earth now, it's not going to hit us. But
on the first of July astronomers using Atlas. That's asteroid
terrestrial impact last alert system.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
God, I love these acronyms.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
There's a telescope in Rio Hrstado, Chile there was this fast,
faint moving object, never seen anything like it. It's officially
named three to one Atlas and it marks only the
third confirmed interstellar object ever observed.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
The first one was al Mama Muay.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm assuming it was someone that was doing the hula
when it was discovered. That was twenty seventeen. And there
is two to one Borisov, probably someone eating borsched in
Russia that is twenty nineteen. So what exactly is three
to one Atlas. Well, it's believed to be a comet.
(02:15):
It has a tail, is getting brighter as it approaches
the Sun. It shows signs of dust and gas being released.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It looks pretty much like a comet.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And incidentally, its name three to one Atlas is it's
the third interstellar object found after the first two. Obviously,
I for Interstellar Atlas for the telescope network that spotted it.
Now why are people paying attention? It's speed and trajectory.
It's not gravitationally bound to the Sun, which all comments
(02:46):
are or most of them.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So guess what.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It had to be originated from another star system and
it wandered into our star system by chance. Also, according
to astronomers, it's a racing through space at a speed
that's increasing, and it's not being pulled. It's too fast
to being pulled by the gravity of the Sun. You know,
(03:11):
they can figure that stuff out. You know, a comet
is moving at a certain speed because the gravity of
the Sun.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
They know what that is. This is going way too
fast for that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, for most astronomers, it's a natural phenomena, very exciting.
But there is one and his name is Avi Loebe,
and he is known as a crazy man because within
scientific circles there is one. Of course, the conspiracy theorists
will go up and he's the end all be all.
(03:41):
What makes him so interesting is he is a theoretical
theoretical astrophysicist at Harvard. Okay, that's not to say you
don't have crazy people at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There are plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So when a series of scientific essays published in the
publication media, and this is where the paper literally lifts
off the table and flies around and it reads itself
to you, he argues that scientists should still consider whether
this object could be an alien technological or an artificial probe,
(04:17):
or an artifact from another civilization. One of his essays,
does three to one atlas generate its own light? Does
its brightness stem from self illuminosity rather than the reflected sunlight?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Like every comet? Is is it different?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, of course, NASA said, it's nuts. It looks like
a comet, It does comet things. It walks like a duck,
talks like a duck. Is probably a duck. It is very,
very very strongly resembles in almost every way of the
commets that we know, although there are a couple things
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Even Lobe has acknowledged in one of his blog posts
that the hopeless hypotheses is that three to one atlas
is a comment. However, he says, we have to look
at this, We have to look at the possibility that
this may be alien technology, And NASA responded with with
(05:21):
we have to look at the possibility that Lobe is
out of his mind and is a fruitcake. No, as
a matter of fact, it's more than a possibility. It's
probably it's a probability that he's out of his mind.
I mean he's known for this, uh. And what makes
him so interesting? I mean, there are crazy uh there.
(05:44):
We know they are conspiracy theorists out there that are nuts,
and almost never are they legitimate people in the terms
of having credentials.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
For example, the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
People, they rely on one study done by Wakefield.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This doctor, in.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
All of his information, what he based his survey on
was completely debunked because he made that stuff up, and
he lost his license to practice medicine based on that.
Yet he is the basis for the vaccine conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Vaccines cause autism? Do you know what I think? It
just occurred to me.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I think I genuinely believe that RFK Junior suffers from autism.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think he suffers from.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It, and I think he's trying to move attention away
from him. Remember yesterday, dogs having autism. There's crazy out there.
There's crazy. Okay, Now, gun control and I was always
an advocate of gun control, and that ship has sailed.
(06:55):
The only thing left now is you can't have eighty
eight Howitzer's RPG low grade nuclear weapons in your backyard.
Short of that, there is much control out there now.
There is another aspect of this, and this is state
(07:15):
by state, it's very different. There is an article in
Wall Street Journal and the title is six words every
killer should know. I feared for my life.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Officer.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's easier than ever to kill someone in America, to
actually get away with it, and sometimes legitimately and sometimes questionable.
In thirty states thirty states, more than half, it requires
only a claim you killed while protecting yourself or others. Now, Americans,
because we are a gun culture, we've long been free
(07:50):
to use deadly forced to defend ourselves at home. No
one is arguing against that. And those are the standiard
ground laws. Those extend legal protections to public places. Stand
your ground means you don't have to just be at home.
You can be in a public place and if you
(08:12):
feel threatened, you can unload and kill someone. And let's
say the police are now looking at it, and there
are only two people that are there, if there are
no witnesses, and that is the person who has died
and the person who's alive. So you take a statement
(08:32):
from the person who is alive, Officer, I was merely
protecting myself. And then the cops look at the dead
person down there. What do you have to say?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Not much?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's stand your ground laws and thirty states have those.
And what does that mean, Well, that means that in
those states, the while you want to call murders, the shootings,
the deaths have risen substantially in recent years because the
number of states that are adopting standard ground laws have
(09:06):
been extended have increased. So here is a stat that
the Wall Street Journal looked at. Justifiable homicides, that is,
an officer I feared for my life by civilians increase
fifty nine percent from twenty nineteen through twenty twenty four.
Sixteen percent rise in total homicides. For the same period,
(09:30):
total homicides sixteen percent. The ones where officer I feared
for my life, those went up by fifty nine percent.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now I have a great quote.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
First, I want to tell you about a retired Las
Vegas police officer. He walked free after shooting a retired
computer network engineer over dispute who had the right of
way in a Walmart parking lot. Both men got out
of their cars, both were armed, and the ex officer
said the retired engineer pointed a gun to him, and
according to the dead man's widow, only two people know
(10:07):
what happened. Unfortunately, my husband is dead, and what ends
up happening. In many stand your ground cases, authorities are left.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
To rely on the word of survivors.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And so I'm going to come back I talk a
little bit more about this journal analysis and states where
stand your ground and those.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That you can only know your house is your castle.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You can defend your castle, whatever the hell they call it,
and California being one of those where you have to
retreat if at all feasible. In thirty states you don't
have to retreat. You can just unload if you fear
for your life. Retreating is not required as it is
in California. Okay, this was a study just came out
from the FBI and it said just file homicides by
(10:58):
civilians went up fifty nine percent.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In cities and counties that only.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Allow or only or do allow shootings killings, and they
are stand your ground rules. Stand your ground laws allow
you to be in a public place and shoot someone
that you reasonably fear is going to kill you. Now,
California and other states, the other half of the states,
(11:29):
what they say is you have to retreat.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You cannot just shoot someone. You have to you have
to make.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Available or if there is available a retreating you don't
have to and stand your ground. You can do it
in a public place. No one are you shooting someone
in your house. Someone's breaking in your house, you can
shoot those people. Although I have heard from police officers,
former police officers, if someone ever breaks into your house,
whatever you do, you cannot shoot that person in the back.
(12:01):
So what you do is you take the guy that's
on the ground that you have killed and turn him
over and at least put a knife in his hands.
And then no one is going to argue because you
have to retreat. And once your life is no longer
in danger, boom, you can't shoot and stand your ground laws.
(12:22):
You can be in a public, public place and you
don't have to retreat.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's not mandated by law.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And so I've got the greatest quote going that I
wanted to share with you, and I read this thing
and it's just absolutely terrific. Okay, there is a Democratic
legislator who was arguing against stand your ground laws and
he said he raised a hypothetical dispute right there on
(12:54):
the floor of the legislature and he said, let's say
I'm in a supermarket line and I'm in the ten
items or less line and I've got fifteen items. The
shopper behind me is understandably irate and proceeds to push
me out of line. And I feel that somehow I
(13:19):
am in danger and I'm fearing for my life. Remember
this is subjective, Okay, he said. Can I then pop
a cap on him, proceed to check out my fifteen
items and ask for a cleanup in line three?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
After the law on Florida passed, it reported an increase
in justifiable homicides, excluding those by the police.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And here were the figures.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean they're small, but they're growing fifteen a year
in the ten years before the law. Forty five hit
in twenty two thousand and nine. In twenty twenty there
was seventy seven. You can see the increase. And then
at that point Florida simply stopped reporting the data. We're
not going to tell you how many people were killed.
We don't want to deal with it. Reportable justify you
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or reported justifiable homicides have risen in years and twenty states,
and those are why don't we put it this way?
Without specific stand your ground laws. They don't do well
with stand your ground laws, they do well. And the
bottom line is the more people that have guns. I mean,
(14:35):
it's just straight statistics. The more people that have guns,
the more people are going to use guns. For example,
the more people that are mentally ill, the more people
are going to act out because they're mentally ill.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's just a question of numbers.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And one legislator said, if everybody has a gun, and
I've heard this before, if everybody has a gun and
anticipates everybody having a gun, we're not going to see
much of the kinds of shootings. Who's this said? An
armed society is a polite society, all right? I mean,
is it. I'll tell you one thing. Road rage that
(15:11):
kills people. And in these stand your ground laws, the
road rage incident In this incidences have increased dramatically. And
so if someone cuts me off, for example, I used
to flip the bird at that person.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I used to get very angry.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sometimes I'd open the window as they were passing or
they were coming back, or I was passing them. Let's
say they were tailgating me and then they zip past me.
I'd open my window and scream.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You a hole.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Today I just wave hello. I don't care what they do. Hey,
how's it going? Nice day, isn't it? Because I don't
know when these guys are going to pull out a
shotgun and shoot me through the side window.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And by the way, I am not exaggerating. So you're
saying an armed society is a polite society.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You're polite or I'm polite it someone has a gun.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That is absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
However, that's someone who has a gun may not be
so polite. Uh that's the problem because again I'm gonna
go back to statistics. And this isn't a value judgment.
This isn't my ideas or should be gun control of
some kind. It's real simple. The more people that have guns,
the more shootings are going to take place. It's it's
not complicated. You know what I carry in my car
(16:32):
A wave A wave and I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sorry, Yeah, I know that's all you can do. All
you need to do that way thumbs up, thumbs up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So uh it's that in California, of course, has the
retreating law. You must retreat. So all right, so much
for that. All right, we're gonna eat.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Oh I want to end up with this. This is fun.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
There is a story they came out of the Times,
and I love this story. And there's a growing fringe
of people who say it is time for an absolute monarchy.
Now when I think about fringe groups, and I used
to think, come on, guys, I mean they're fringe, But
look at what's happening today. What used to be fringe
people standing on street corners with bullhorns are now in
(17:16):
the highest reaches of government. There are cabinet members and
they were considered fringe just a few years ago. So
you look at this, you go, Okay, we no longer
dismiss fringe anymore. And these young Americans are in their
twenties for the most part, this thing is growing. They
want a monarchy, but they want they don't want King Trump.
(17:39):
And it's kind of interesting about this because there are
well Trump supporters who do want a King Trump. Not
so much a King Trump. They're not talking about King Trump,
but a president that gets re elected. And the President said,
I don't want to be king, and I believe that.
Does he want to be elected and be the president
(17:59):
for the rest of it, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think he'd enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I think there are plenty of presidents who when
they leave would love to continue on with their presidency.
Bill Clinton loved being president and was not happy when
he left. Obama I'm sure would have easily and gladly
done another term. And then there are presidents that just
hated it and couldn't wait to get the hell out.
Who Truman was one of them that just couldn't wait
(18:24):
to get out. And so this whole argument about the
king Trump and even to the point where no king's
the rally two weeks ago where millions of people showed
up and I was there, and I was the only
sign that I saw freedom of the press because that
was my issue, and everybody else it was no kings
(18:48):
and pictures of Donald Trump with a crown that was
crossed out. I mean, people, I think are genuinely afraid.
Am I afraid? No. I think he believes that we
should not have a quote, absolute monarchy. I think he
believes there should be elections, free elections, but only when
(19:10):
Republicans win, because that's the only free election. He has
said that if a Democrat wins, it's a rigged election
of course by definition, and so you know, I think
he's having a lot of fun with this is what
I think it is. Look at the video that he posted.
He's flying in f sixteen. He has a crown on
his head and he flies over a group of demonstrators.
(19:31):
Strangely enough, the know kings march demonstrators and unloads just
this enormous amount of.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Liquid.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, clearly it was crap that he unloaded. And so
he's joking about being king. But you know, is there
any truth to the jokes. Yeah, not king, although look
at what people are saying. First of all, he as
much power as he possibly can, There's no question about that.
(20:03):
As president, he stretches the limits of the presidency and
has the court agree with him that he's very close
to in many cases absolute power. And another fun thing
is look at the he loves gold. He's very much
like Louis the fourteenth Versailles. Everything is gold. I mean,
(20:27):
look at the great, big, beautiful ballroom that he is building.
It's all gold. It looks like a lot of like
the ballroom at mar A Lago, which is all gold.
Have you ever seen photos of the inside of his
house at Trump Tower in New York? Oh, man, come on,
it's all gold. So I'm just having a good time
(20:48):
with this. And my point is fringe is no longer fringe.
That's the crazy part of this. Okay, we're done, Neil,
looks like you want to say something or not. No,
I was just saying that there's I don't know what
it is about gold, but it always looks cheap.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Uh yeah right, yeah, no gold. Yeah. If it's yeah,
if you have a.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Gold bar and you're you know, it's you know, a
pound or two when using it as a doorst like
as a doorstop, that's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's kind of yeah. It always looks cheap to me,
it does. It does. So anyway, so much for that.
You've been listening to The Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Nine.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Bill Handle Here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
It is a Wednesday morning, October twenty nine. Some of
the big stories we're looking at. President Trump has said
when asked and now there's some kind of movement saying
third term, third term. When asked about it, he said,
it's pretty clear the US Constitution does not permit him
to run for a third term in office.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Pretty clear.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's crystal clear. It is completely clear. It's unequivocally clear.
It's clear. It's insanely clear. He can't do it, and
he's admitting it. But I'm sure he's having a great
time with this.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
There's yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I mean, one of the things the president does is
he has a great times. Matter of fact, he loves
being president. He said that just as some people hate it,
some presidents couldn't wait to get the hell out. And
I think Donald Trump is going to be not very
happy when he leaves because he enjoys it so much. Okay,
I want to talk about alien beings. There is some
(01:13):
kind of maybe it's a comet, maybe it isn't moving
towards Earth now, it's not going to hit us. But
on the first of July astronomers using Atlas. That's asteroid
terrestrial impact last alert system.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
God, I love these acronyms.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
There's a telescope in Rio Hrstado, Chile there was this fast,
faint moving object, never seen anything like it. It's officially
named three to one Atlas and it marks only the
third confirmed interstellar object ever observed.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
The first one was al Mama Muay.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm assuming it was someone that was doing the hula
when it was discovered. That was twenty seventeen. And there
is two to one Borisov, probably someone eating borsched in
Russia that is twenty nineteen. So what exactly is three
to one Atlas. Well, it's believed to be a comet.
(02:15):
It has a tail, is getting brighter as it approaches
the Sun. It shows signs of dust and gas being released.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
It looks pretty much like a comet.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And incidentally, its name three to one Atlas is it's
the third interstellar object found after the first two. Obviously,
I for Interstellar Atlas for the telescope network that spotted it.
Now why are people paying attention? It's speed and trajectory.
It's not gravitationally bound to the Sun, which all comments
(02:46):
are or most of them.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
So guess what.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
It had to be originated from another star system and
it wandered into our star system by chance. Also, according
to astronomers, it's a racing through space at a speed
that's increasing, and it's not being pulled. It's too fast
to being pulled by the gravity of the Sun. You know,
(03:11):
they can figure that stuff out. You know, a comet
is moving at a certain speed because the gravity of
the Sun.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
They know what that is. This is going way too
fast for that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Now, for most astronomers, it's a natural phenomena, very exciting.
But there is one and his name is Avi Loebe,
and he is known as a crazy man because within
scientific circles there is one. Of course, the conspiracy theorists
will go up and he's the end all be all.
(03:41):
What makes him so interesting is he is a theoretical
theoretical astrophysicist at Harvard. Okay, that's not to say you
don't have crazy people at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
There are plenty of them.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So when a series of scientific essays published in the
publication media, and this is where the paper literally lifts
off the table and flies around and it reads itself
to you, he argues that scientists should still consider whether
this object could be an alien technological or an artificial probe,
(04:17):
or an artifact from another civilization. One of his essays,
does three to one atlas generate its own light? Does
its brightness stem from self illuminosity rather than the reflected sunlight?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Like every comet? Is is it different?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well, of course, NASA said, it's nuts. It looks like
a comet, It does comet things. It walks like a duck,
talks like a duck. Is probably a duck. It is very,
very very strongly resembles in almost every way of the
commets that we know, although there are a couple things
about it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Even Lobe has acknowledged in one of his blog posts
that the hopeless hypotheses is that three to one atlas
is a comment. However, he says, we have to look
at this, We have to look at the possibility that
this may be alien technology, And NASA responded with with
(05:21):
we have to look at the possibility that Lobe is
out of his mind and is a fruitcake. No, as
a matter of fact, it's more than a possibility. It's
probably it's a probability that he's out of his mind.
I mean he's known for this, uh. And what makes
him so interesting? I mean, there are crazy uh there.
(05:44):
We know they are conspiracy theorists out there that are nuts,
and almost never are they legitimate people in the terms
of having credentials.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
For example, the vaccine.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
People, they rely on one study done by Wakefield.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This doctor, in.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
All of his information, what he based his survey on
was completely debunked because he made that stuff up, and
he lost his license to practice medicine based on that.
Yet he is the basis for the vaccine conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Vaccines cause autism? Do you know what I think? It
just occurred to me.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I think I genuinely believe that RFK Junior suffers from autism.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I think he suffers from.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
It, and I think he's trying to move attention away
from him. Remember yesterday, dogs having autism. There's crazy out there.
There's crazy. Okay, Now, gun control and I was always
an advocate of gun control, and that ship has sailed.
(06:55):
The only thing left now is you can't have eighty
eight Howitzer's RPG low grade nuclear weapons in your backyard.
Short of that, there is much control out there now.
There is another aspect of this, and this is state
(07:15):
by state, it's very different. There is an article in
Wall Street Journal and the title is six words every
killer should know. I feared for my life.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Officer.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's easier than ever to kill someone in America, to
actually get away with it, and sometimes legitimately and sometimes questionable.
In thirty states thirty states, more than half, it requires
only a claim you killed while protecting yourself or others. Now, Americans,
because we are a gun culture, we've long been free
(07:50):
to use deadly forced to defend ourselves at home. No
one is arguing against that. And those are the standiard
ground laws. Those extend legal protections to public places. Stand
your ground means you don't have to just be at home.
You can be in a public place and if you
(08:12):
feel threatened, you can unload and kill someone. And let's
say the police are now looking at it, and there
are only two people that are there, if there are
no witnesses, and that is the person who has died
and the person who's alive. So you take a statement
(08:32):
from the person who is alive, Officer, I was merely
protecting myself. And then the cops look at the dead
person down there. What do you have to say?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Not much?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's stand your ground laws and thirty states have those.
And what does that mean, Well, that means that in
those states, the while you want to call murders, the shootings,
the deaths have risen substantially in recent years because the
number of states that are adopting standard ground laws have
(09:06):
been extended have increased. So here is a stat that
the Wall Street Journal looked at. Justifiable homicides, that is,
an officer I feared for my life by civilians increase
fifty nine percent from twenty nineteen through twenty twenty four.
Sixteen percent rise in total homicides. For the same period,
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total homicides sixteen percent. The ones where officer I feared
for my life, those went up by fifty nine percent.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Now I have a great quote.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
First, I want to tell you about a retired Las
Vegas police officer. He walked free after shooting a retired
computer network engineer over dispute who had the right of
way in a Walmart parking lot. Both men got out
of their cars, both were armed, and the ex officer
said the retired engineer pointed a gun to him, and
according to the dead man's widow, only two people know
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what happened. Unfortunately, my husband is dead, and what ends
up happening. In many stand your ground cases, authorities are left.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
To rely on the word of survivors.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And so I'm going to come back I talk a
little bit more about this journal analysis and states where
stand your ground and those.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
That you can only know your house is your castle.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You can defend your castle, whatever the hell they call it,
and California being one of those where you have to
retreat if at all feasible. In thirty states you don't
have to retreat. You can just unload if you fear
for your life. Retreating is not required as it is
in California. Okay, this was a study just came out
from the FBI and it said just file homicides by
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civilians went up fifty nine percent.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
In cities and counties that only.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Allow or only or do allow shootings killings, and they
are stand your ground rules. Stand your ground laws allow
you to be in a public place and shoot someone
that you reasonably fear is going to kill you. Now,
California and other states, the other half of the states,
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what they say is you have to retreat.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You cannot just shoot someone. You have to you have
to make.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Available or if there is available a retreating you don't
have to and stand your ground. You can do it
in a public place. No one are you shooting someone
in your house. Someone's breaking in your house, you can
shoot those people. Although I have heard from police officers,
former police officers, if someone ever breaks into your house,
whatever you do, you cannot shoot that person in the back.
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So what you do is you take the guy that's
on the ground that you have killed and turn him
over and at least put a knife in his hands.
And then no one is going to argue because you
have to retreat. And once your life is no longer
in danger, boom, you can't shoot and stand your ground laws.
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You can be in a public, public place and you
don't have to retreat.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
That's not mandated by law.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And so I've got the greatest quote going that I
wanted to share with you, and I read this thing
and it's just absolutely terrific. Okay, there is a Democratic
legislator who was arguing against stand your ground laws and
he said he raised a hypothetical dispute right there on
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the floor of the legislature and he said, let's say
I'm in a supermarket line and I'm in the ten
items or less line and I've got fifteen items. The
shopper behind me is understandably irate and proceeds to push
me out of line. And I feel that somehow I
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am in danger and I'm fearing for my life. Remember
this is subjective, Okay, he said. Can I then pop
a cap on him, proceed to check out my fifteen
items and ask for a cleanup in line three?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, that's not bad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
After the law on Florida passed, it reported an increase
in justifiable homicides, excluding those by the police.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And here were the figures.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean they're small, but they're growing fifteen a year
in the ten years before the law. Forty five hit
in twenty two thousand and nine. In twenty twenty there
was seventy seven. You can see the increase. And then
at that point Florida simply stopped reporting the data. We're
not going to tell you how many people were killed.
We don't want to deal with it. Reportable justify you
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or reported justifiable homicides have risen in years and twenty states,
and those are why don't we put it this way?
Without specific stand your ground laws. They don't do well
with stand your ground laws, they do well. And the
bottom line is the more people that have guns. I mean,
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it's just straight statistics. The more people that have guns,
the more people are going to use guns. For example,
the more people that are mentally ill, the more people
are going to act out because they're mentally ill.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's just a question of numbers.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And one legislator said, if everybody has a gun, and
I've heard this before, if everybody has a gun and
anticipates everybody having a gun, we're not going to see
much of the kinds of shootings. Who's this said? An
armed society is a polite society, all right? I mean,
is it. I'll tell you one thing. Road rage that
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kills people. And in these stand your ground laws, the
road rage incident In this incidences have increased dramatically. And
so if someone cuts me off, for example, I used
to flip the bird at that person.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I used to get very angry.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Sometimes I'd open the window as they were passing or
they were coming back, or I was passing them. Let's
say they were tailgating me and then they zip past me.
I'd open my window and scream.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You a hole.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Today I just wave hello. I don't care what they do. Hey,
how's it going? Nice day, isn't it? Because I don't
know when these guys are going to pull out a
shotgun and shoot me through the side window.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And by the way, I am not exaggerating. So you're
saying an armed society is a polite society.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You're polite or I'm polite it someone has a gun.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
That is absolutely correct.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
However, that's someone who has a gun may not be
so polite. Uh that's the problem because again I'm gonna
go back to statistics. And this isn't a value judgment.
This isn't my ideas or should be gun control of
some kind. It's real simple. The more people that have guns,
the more shootings are going to take place. It's it's
not complicated. You know what I carry in my car
(16:32):
A wave A wave and I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sorry, Yeah, I know that's all you can do. All
you need to do that way thumbs up, thumbs up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So uh it's that in California, of course, has the
retreating law. You must retreat. So all right, so much
for that. All right, we're gonna eat.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Oh I want to end up with this. This is fun.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
There is a story they came out of the Times,
and I love this story. And there's a growing fringe
of people who say it is time for an absolute monarchy.
Now when I think about fringe groups, and I used
to think, come on, guys, I mean they're fringe, But
look at what's happening today. What used to be fringe
people standing on street corners with bullhorns are now in
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the highest reaches of government. There are cabinet members and
they were considered fringe just a few years ago. So
you look at this, you go, Okay, we no longer
dismiss fringe anymore. And these young Americans are in their
twenties for the most part, this thing is growing. They
want a monarchy, but they want they don't want King Trump.
(17:39):
And it's kind of interesting about this because there are
well Trump supporters who do want a King Trump. Not
so much a King Trump. They're not talking about King Trump,
but a president that gets re elected. And the President said,
I don't want to be king, and I believe that.
Does he want to be elected and be the president
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for the rest of it, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think he'd enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I think there are plenty of presidents who when
they leave would love to continue on with their presidency.
Bill Clinton loved being president and was not happy when
he left. Obama I'm sure would have easily and gladly
done another term. And then there are presidents that just
hated it and couldn't wait to get the hell out.
Who Truman was one of them that just couldn't wait
(18:24):
to get out. And so this whole argument about the
king Trump and even to the point where no king's
the rally two weeks ago where millions of people showed
up and I was there, and I was the only
sign that I saw freedom of the press because that
was my issue, and everybody else it was no kings
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and pictures of Donald Trump with a crown that was
crossed out. I mean, people, I think are genuinely afraid.
Am I afraid? No. I think he believes that we
should not have a quote, absolute monarchy. I think he
believes there should be elections, free elections, but only when
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Republicans win, because that's the only free election. He has
said that if a Democrat wins, it's a rigged election
of course by definition, and so you know, I think
he's having a lot of fun with this is what
I think it is. Look at the video that he posted.
He's flying in f sixteen. He has a crown on
his head and he flies over a group of demonstrators.
(19:31):
Strangely enough, the know kings march demonstrators and unloads just
this enormous amount of.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Liquid.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, clearly it was crap that he unloaded. And so
he's joking about being king. But you know, is there
any truth to the jokes. Yeah, not king, although look
at what people are saying. First of all, he as
much power as he possibly can, There's no question about that.
(20:03):
As president, he stretches the limits of the presidency and
has the court agree with him that he's very close
to in many cases absolute power. And another fun thing
is look at the he loves gold. He's very much
like Louis the fourteenth Versailles. Everything is gold. I mean,
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look at the great, big, beautiful ballroom that he is building.
It's all gold. It looks like a lot of like
the ballroom at mar A Lago, which is all gold.
Have you ever seen photos of the inside of his
house at Trump Tower in New York? Oh, man, come on,
it's all gold. So I'm just having a good time
(20:48):
with this. And my point is fringe is no longer fringe.
That's the crazy part of this. Okay, we're done, Neil,
looks like you want to say something or not. No,
I was just saying that there's I don't know what
it is about gold, but it always looks cheap.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Uh yeah right, yeah, no gold. Yeah. If it's yeah,
if you have a.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Gold bar and you're you know, it's you know, a
pound or two when using it as a doorst like
as a doorstop, that's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's kind of yeah. It always looks cheap to me,
it does. It does. So anyway, so much for that.
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Speaker 2 (21:31):
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