October 1, 2025 • 23 mins
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Hollywood Performers Union condemns AI-generated actress Tilly Norwood. Cany WayMo get a ticket? Here's what happened when the police pulled one over. Disney’s handling of Jimmy Kimmel debacle highlights big challenges for Bob Iger’s successor.
Hollywood Performers Union condemns AI-generated actress Tilly Norwood. Cany WayMo get a ticket? Here's what happened when the police pulled one over. Disney’s handling of Jimmy Kimmel debacle highlights big challenges for Bob Iger’s successor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now, there was something that just occurred at on Saturday.
There was a film industry conference in Zurich, and up
on the screen comes up Tilly Norwood. Tillie Norwood is
pretty attractive. She's an actress, obviously British accent and is
(00:28):
you know, looks like an actress. You can't quite place her.
You know, where have I seen you before? You know,
were you in a film? You know how you look
at actors or actresses and you sort of know them,
but you don't know where you saw them.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's Tilly Norwood.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And the reason you haven't seen Tillie Norwood before is
she is one hundred percent AI generated.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
She ain't real. Yep, we've reached that point.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I've told you this story about out Corey Han, who
I used to do commercials for many years ago, and
he was one of the early early players in the Internet.
And I had asked him where do you think the
Internet is going? And he said, no one has any idea. Well,
now we know the next.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Step in the Internet is a I.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And the Internet is considered well, a lot of people
say it is the some of the most earth shattering
moments in the human civilization, one being controlling fire, the
other one being the wheel, inventing of the wheel, maybe.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The printing press.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Certainly with Donald Trump's Every Morning is the most important
thing in the history of mankind, we get that. And
the Internet is going to be right up there changes
everything in life. And now AI is the next consequence.
I never thought this would happen. And AI generated actor
(02:01):
who looks perfect? And guess how much you pay an
AI generated actor.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Nothing. It's just the ability to create.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And AI will probably be able to do the coding
to create, and we'll probably be able to write scripts.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We already know that. There was a big issue with SAG.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
After it, I had joked and said, well, least, thank goodness,
this show is not going to be controlled by AI.
And then we did a segment where AI in fact
did this show in my voice. We should do that again,
because that was what a year ago or a few
months ago, Neil, do.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You remember when we did that was not a year ago? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But AI is moving at such a rapid what do
I know for memory? AI is moving at such a
rapid pace. Let's put it together again and let's put
together another segment of the Handle Show without Handle, matter
of fact, starring Tillie Norwood. Now, can you imagine what
SAG AFTRA has done. SAG after is the union that
(03:04):
we belong to, Screen Actors Guild and the and they
merged the American Federation of Television Radio Artists, which is
beyond comprehension.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
How they call this artists artists? I mean, I just
don't get it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
In any case, the pushback on this is incredible because
if this thing flies and After is not able to
shut it down. The problem is After only controls union films,
and SAG after or a SAG only controls union films,
(03:41):
and our union after, which has since merged, only controls
union programming. It has no control over anything that's not union.
So if you're talking about independent producers, up comes Tilly
Norwood and she is going to star in the next film,
(04:03):
and it can be a Grade Z movie.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It can literally be the cheapest of the cheapest.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You're gonna have a movie that's able to have a
budget of four dollars, and you're gonna have a damn
good actress, and you're gonna be able to have a
damn good looking actress who has a lot of skill.
Whoa you think that's scaring a few people? Where is
AI going? Does anybody have any idea where AI is going?
(04:34):
In the world of computer technology, anybody with a skill
set can, in fact try to get a job. You
know where entry level jobs have gone in the world
of computers. They disappeared. Why because AI has taken over
all of it. There are no jobs. AI has taken over.
(04:56):
Certainly the legal profession. AI is involved in the medical
prof session. So and I want to do that again. Okay,
I really want to do another segment. Maybe we'll do
it tomorrow and we'll just pick something out. Oh that's right,
I'm not here. I'm uh well, let's do it tomorrow
(05:17):
with me in synagogue praying and maybe growing a beard.
Let's do it tomorrow. Yeah, Hi, let me tell you, No,
we won't be doing that, So let's try it for
Friday and see if that works. Wow. Okay, I want
to tell you a story now. Tim Conway is doing
this tonight. You've been hearing his promo. Cops in San Bruno,
(05:40):
we're looking for a drunk driver and there was a
car that was driving erratically. So I mean the car
made an illegal U turn at a traffic light right
in front of them.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, who does that?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So they want ahead and stop the car and what
did they see? What they didn't see? They didn't see
a driver because it was a Waimo car. A the
department wrote in a post it was a first or
both officers and it included photos of the officer peering
(06:18):
through the front window at the driver side.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And there's no driver. So normally the car, the driver would.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Have would have gotten a ticket for making an illegal
U turn. And the problem is the law is pretty
clear in California as well as other states. Is the
only way a driver can get a ticket is for
a driver to get a ticket. What if there is
no driver who gets a ticket. Well, in reality, I
(06:53):
think it's a fairly easy fix. California lawmakers are trying
to close this enforcement loophole new legislation that kicks in
next July. But the critics aren't saying are saying that
the law isn't strong enough. Now, this is hilarious because
Weimo was asked about this, and Weimo the spokesperson, Julia Alina,
(07:16):
said that the company's vehicles are already subject to close
ongoing oversight by California regulators, and the company's autonomous driving
system is designed to respect the rules of the road.
How about the illegal you turn? You want to talk
about that. We follow the rules of the road. The
(07:40):
only thing that was left out is the safety of
everybody else inside the car is our first priority.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, come one, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
In any case, Elina said, we're looking into this situation
and are committed to improving road safety through our ongoing
learning and experience.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
How about the illegal U You think there should be
a problem there or we're committed to improving road safety.
This is what this is what pr hacks get paid for,
this sort of corporate speaker political speech. So, the new
law that was just signed by Gavin Newsom last year
(08:20):
allows law enforcement agencies to report instances of autonomous vehicles
non compliance, that is, driving erratically, making illegal U turns,
making left turns through a red light, and that would
force or allow law enforcement to report to the DMV
(08:40):
quote non compliance, and then the DMV is now in
the process of hashing out specifics potential penalties. For example,
do you just ticket Waimo for one illegal U turn
or do you go.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ahead and make it penalize them a lot more?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Now, the original form of the law would have allowed
self driving cars to be ticketing, but it was watered
down with amendments all over the place. The loudest critics
Teamsters Union, which said that the law takes California backwards.
The Western Region vice president of the Teamsters International Brotherhood
(09:23):
the Western Region, I think he goes. I bet every
Californians wish that when they make mistake driving they got
a courtesy note instead of an expensive ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I don't know if this is a courtesy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Note because it is a straight out violation. Now in
Arizona or Texas, they're a little bit stiffer than that.
They also have an autonomous vehicle presence. Both states updated
their law years ago to allow the officers to issue
citations to the registered owner of the car even if
(09:56):
no human is present. The registered owner of the car,
of course, is Weamo.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is Google own Wemo?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think it does? Or is Weimo independent? I have
absolutely no idea. Yeah, no, Google is owned by Weimo's
owned by Google Alphabet And I'm a big fan of
autonomous vehicles. I think they're infinitely safer they don't get drunk,
they don't fall asleep, and the few instances of crashes
(10:28):
are minuscule relative to the number of miles that were driven.
I think it was Weimo that started its test run
in Phoenix, and they drove millions of miles before being
allowed to go completely autonomous. I believe that once autonomous
vehicles hit the roads in numbers, there will never be
(10:51):
gridlock again, and cars will be able to zip along
at sixty five miles an hour, two feet from each other.
And there's where technology is. So are we going to
be ludites about it? Well, the teamsters certainly don't want
don't want an autonomous drivers or non drivers with the trucks.
(11:16):
Oh no, we don't want that because it's not as safe. Well,
actually it is as safe, if not longer, if not
more so. All right, enough of that, you know, waybo.
Have you ever taken awaymo? Anybody has?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I have it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I have a bunch of times, and it's great. I've
done it in San Francisco a bunch of times. I've
done it here a bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You don't find it a little bit disconcerting to get
into a car that there is no driver in front.
Phase mean the slightest is there. I don't even I've
never seen one. Actually, is there a steering wheel?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah? Oh, you know what's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I will tell you it has a screen on it
and you can see what it sees through its scanners,
and it's flair and all. It's different technology. And I
will tell you I drove with one a couple times
at night, and it sees people that I could not
see with my own eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It saw people on dark sidewalks.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It saw people where there were no lights that I
couldn't see with my own eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So that impressed the hell out of me. Did you
refer to the non driver as Casper?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, I didn't even think about it. Yeah, I just
got it. I sat, I sat up front the passenger
seat one time, and.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It is absolutely me ask you so this when you're
upfront and there's no driver, this is when talking to
yourself doesn't raise any eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
No, I didn't talk to myself, but I listened to
iHeartRadio in there. Oh not fair enough? All right?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Coming out, that's kind of fun. I have to get
hold of one of those because they're in LA. I
wonder how you can you ask for a waimo.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, it's just like getting an Uber.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The only difference is because there's less of them, it
takes longer, probably fifteen to twenty minutes or something to
get one, whereas it can take three minutes for an Uber.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I've got to try it out. I definitely have to
try it out. And I'm assuming the cost is equivalent. No,
it's less, okay, and you don't have to tip.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It'll be interesting to see though if it if costs
go up as more people start using it, like it
has with.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uber and Lyft.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, all right. Disney, oh god, Disney is in a mess.
It's a lose lose for Disney. The heat they really
had it a real problem with Rond de Santis. When Disney,
which has been known for years decades as being pro
LGBTQ rights, it was one of the companies that was
(13:53):
the most inclusive companies in America. Well, in Rond de Santis, Florida,
that's not such a good idea. And they got into it,
and DeSantis actually pulled Disney's ability to control its own
its own county actually, and it was that was not
easy for Disney.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So now you got the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Oh boy. Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
While the Jimmy Kimmel situation is going on, the company
is also looking for Bob Eiger's successor. Bob Iger, a
renowned CEO who has done it twice. He retired. Then
you had cheap pac come in that Eiger chose who
screwed the pooch? Iiger came back, and now he's retiring
next year and they are looking at a new CEO.
(14:39):
And what a mess the ceo is going to inherit
And it had to do. It started in this instance
with the Jimmy Kimmel Show. And Jimmy Kimmel is a
Communedian as we know late night show, and he's fairly liberal,
certainly a tax administration. But you know, all the late
night hosts attack the administration whichever the administration certainly attacked
(15:03):
Joe Biden, but not to the extent that they attack
this president this administration because frankly, this administration has more
stuff to make fun of.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's the issue. There's just more there. There is fodder there.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So let's look at and I'm going to talk about
a post that I put up and let's talk about
exactly what Jimmy Kimmel said that got him and ABC,
which suspended the show, said that's it. We're done because
of what Jimmy Kimble said, which I'll tell you in
a second. And then the backlash was so extraordinary that
(15:44):
a couple of days later, ABC or Disney produced it right,
put it right back on the air. And the backlash
on that one is coming up. So here's what he said.
He basically said, and this is remarks about the Charlie
Kirk shooting, that the suspect who had been arrested was
(16:07):
a Make America Great Again Republican and that Trump supporters.
It sort of suggested that and Trump supporters were trying
to score political points from the tragedy. Now is that
pretty offensive? Yeah, if I'm a member of MAGA or MAGA,
it certainly is. And if I'm a Trump supporter and
(16:30):
I'm being accused of somehow making a political deal out
of Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's shooting, excuse me for a moment.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Has a political deal been made out of the shooting?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Has it had tremendous political influence?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah? It has.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's the reality Now, accusing various people who are being
responsible for the shooting is one thing or another. And
I talked yesterday about the shame of what's going on
with the Charlie Kirk murder, and that is it is
now devolved in many ways into a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Who killed Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And now we're talking the jfk assassination And it gets
crazy taking away from the importance and the influence of
Charlie Kirk, because you can't take that away from him.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Now he has become deified that he has.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He has in many ways become Abraham Lincoln to many
members of the Conservatives. He's not a member of MEGA,
but he certainly is or was very conservative, and created
a whole movement of college students and it was I mean,
you had stadiums full of people that were remembering him
(17:47):
and had rallies and remembrances.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So this is what Kimmel did.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
He said that it's ten seconds, and the backlash was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
TV stations pulled it. Now.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
The way it works with national television, you have a
company like ABC, owned by Disney, produces the show and
then it goes to affiliate. I think the station. ABC
owns five stations. It used to be five stations used
to be able to be owned five oh to oh
owned and operated, and then the rest of them were
all owned by various companies. And two major companies still
(18:23):
refused to carry it. And that's because, well, what a shocker.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
They need FCC.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Approval to allow the merger that they're doing the sale
of those companies. All right, now, let's finish the show
with what happened with Disney and the Jimmy Kimmel feurer.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
As you know could recap.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Jimmy Kimmel made a comment in reference to the Charlie
Kirk shooting suggesting that the suspect the killer was a
Make America Great Again Republican and that Trump supporters were
trying to score political points from the murder. Pretty offensive,
and he was fired for that, and then Disney brought
(19:01):
him back two days later. And the argument is First Amendment,
First Amendment rights that Disney and the affiliates that will
no longer carry the Jimmy Kimble Show are getting in
the way of First Amendment. That the President threatening to sue,
which he did after Kimball was back on the air,
(19:23):
and the pressure that he is able to obsert, particularly
with the FCC, which licenses everything that's on the air,
and Brendan Carr, the SEC Commissioner, said he is looking
at Yankee ABC's license, Disney's license to broadcast. Okay, So
I was one of those that said, this is First
(19:45):
Amendment issue, this is the administration getting in the way
of First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Come on, guys. So I posted something.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Along those lines, and I cannot tell you how many
responses I got saying, well, how about Roseanne Barr when
she was fired? You didn't say a word about First Amendment?
Then you hypocrite. Well here's the difference.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
What he said was you can disagree or agree with it,
and it's pretty offensive to many people.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But that's pretty much political.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
What Roseanne Barr did is left off a whole sealer
let a whole series of racist tweets the night she
was fired. Night before she was fired, including a comment
referring to former Obama aid Valerie Jarrett as the offspring
of the Muslim Brotherhood and planet of the Apes. Now
(20:41):
there's a difference. I mean, does she have a First
Amendment right? Yeah, of course she does. Should she get fired,
I would have fired her for something that offensive. And
let me make the analogy here, because it's simply a
question of where the line is, and among political those
that have strong political beliefs, there is no line. And
(21:02):
so let me give you what I think is the
best analogy. If you have sex with a feather that's
considered is exotic, if you have sex with the entire chicken,
that is on a different level that has gone beyond
the peel. And that's what happened with Roseanne bar It
(21:24):
was so racist, it was so offensive that ABC just
said we can't.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Tell you were gone, Bill, And I agree with you
one thousand percent, which is one of the reasons why
I stood by Jimmy Kimmel as well. But the one
thing that is a direct comparison is Gina Carano, who
got fired from the Mandalorian Disney owned television show for
saying something that was said very similarly by the male
(21:54):
lead and he stayed and she didn't offensive. And I
have no and I have heard of lawsuit though against Disney.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, and I have no problem with that at all.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is where a corporation caves blows it and this
is what Disney has to deal with Disney, as I said,
is in a very bad position.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's a lose lose.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Although you can talk Mandalorian and you can talk about
what's going on politically, I'll stick with the sex with
a feather and chicken.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well done, the analogy. It will last throughout the day.
I'm sure, yes, it is all right.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I am out of here tomorrow young Kipoor, which I
have never worked in my entire life, so I'm taking
off the day and Neil of course it's in for me.
And then on Friday I'm back again where we do
the show and nothing changes, all right in the meantime
(22:49):
when is Will come back.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
By the way, Amy.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Will, he's still just in the first few days of
his vacation, so he's not back for another week.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And a half.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay in Italy, yep, it's eating the pizza was just phenomenal,
all right. Tomorrow morning it starts with Amy and Neil,
and then Neil continues on hosting the show, and then
of course Ann and kno are always here and I'm
not Gary and Shannon are coming right up. Kfi am six.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now, there was something that just occurred at on Saturday.
There was a film industry conference in Zurich, and up
on the screen comes up Tilly Norwood. Tillie Norwood is
pretty attractive. She's an actress, obviously British accent and is
(00:28):
you know, looks like an actress. You can't quite place her.
You know, where have I seen you before? You know,
were you in a film? You know how you look
at actors or actresses and you sort of know them,
but you don't know where you saw them.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's Tilly Norwood.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And the reason you haven't seen Tillie Norwood before is
she is one hundred percent AI generated.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
She ain't real. Yep, we've reached that point.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I've told you this story about out Corey Han, who
I used to do commercials for many years ago, and
he was one of the early early players in the Internet.
And I had asked him where do you think the
Internet is going? And he said, no one has any idea. Well,
now we know the next.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Step in the Internet is a I.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And the Internet is considered well, a lot of people
say it is the some of the most earth shattering
moments in the human civilization, one being controlling fire, the
other one being the wheel, inventing of the wheel, maybe.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The printing press.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Certainly with Donald Trump's Every Morning is the most important
thing in the history of mankind, we get that. And
the Internet is going to be right up there changes
everything in life. And now AI is the next consequence.
I never thought this would happen. And AI generated actor
(02:01):
who looks perfect? And guess how much you pay an
AI generated actor.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Nothing. It's just the ability to create.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And AI will probably be able to do the coding
to create, and we'll probably be able to write scripts.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
We already know that. There was a big issue with SAG.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
After it, I had joked and said, well, least, thank goodness,
this show is not going to be controlled by AI.
And then we did a segment where AI in fact
did this show in my voice. We should do that again,
because that was what a year ago or a few
months ago, Neil, do.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You remember when we did that was not a year ago? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But AI is moving at such a rapid what do
I know for memory? AI is moving at such a
rapid pace. Let's put it together again and let's put
together another segment of the Handle Show without Handle, matter
of fact, starring Tillie Norwood. Now, can you imagine what
SAG AFTRA has done. SAG after is the union that
(03:04):
we belong to, Screen Actors Guild and the and they
merged the American Federation of Television Radio Artists, which is
beyond comprehension.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
How they call this artists artists? I mean, I just
don't get it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
In any case, the pushback on this is incredible because
if this thing flies and After is not able to
shut it down. The problem is After only controls union films,
and SAG after or a SAG only controls union films,
(03:41):
and our union after, which has since merged, only controls
union programming. It has no control over anything that's not union.
So if you're talking about independent producers, up comes Tilly
Norwood and she is going to star in the next film,
(04:03):
and it can be a Grade Z movie.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It can literally be the cheapest of the cheapest.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You're gonna have a movie that's able to have a
budget of four dollars, and you're gonna have a damn
good actress, and you're gonna be able to have a
damn good looking actress who has a lot of skill.
Whoa you think that's scaring a few people? Where is
AI going? Does anybody have any idea where AI is going?
(04:34):
In the world of computer technology, anybody with a skill
set can, in fact try to get a job. You
know where entry level jobs have gone in the world
of computers. They disappeared. Why because AI has taken over
all of it. There are no jobs. AI has taken over.
(04:56):
Certainly the legal profession. AI is involved in the medical
prof session. So and I want to do that again. Okay,
I really want to do another segment. Maybe we'll do
it tomorrow and we'll just pick something out. Oh that's right,
I'm not here. I'm uh well, let's do it tomorrow
(05:17):
with me in synagogue praying and maybe growing a beard.
Let's do it tomorrow. Yeah, Hi, let me tell you, No,
we won't be doing that, So let's try it for
Friday and see if that works. Wow. Okay, I want
to tell you a story now. Tim Conway is doing
this tonight. You've been hearing his promo. Cops in San Bruno,
(05:40):
we're looking for a drunk driver and there was a
car that was driving erratically. So I mean the car
made an illegal U turn at a traffic light right
in front of them.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I mean, who does that?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So they want ahead and stop the car and what
did they see? What they didn't see? They didn't see
a driver because it was a Waimo car. A the
department wrote in a post it was a first or
both officers and it included photos of the officer peering
(06:18):
through the front window at the driver side.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And there's no driver. So normally the car, the driver would.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Have would have gotten a ticket for making an illegal
U turn. And the problem is the law is pretty
clear in California as well as other states. Is the
only way a driver can get a ticket is for
a driver to get a ticket. What if there is
no driver who gets a ticket. Well, in reality, I
(06:53):
think it's a fairly easy fix. California lawmakers are trying
to close this enforcement loophole new legislation that kicks in
next July. But the critics aren't saying are saying that
the law isn't strong enough. Now, this is hilarious because
Weimo was asked about this, and Weimo the spokesperson, Julia Alina,
(07:16):
said that the company's vehicles are already subject to close
ongoing oversight by California regulators, and the company's autonomous driving
system is designed to respect the rules of the road.
How about the illegal you turn? You want to talk
about that. We follow the rules of the road. The
(07:40):
only thing that was left out is the safety of
everybody else inside the car is our first priority.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, come one, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
In any case, Elina said, we're looking into this situation
and are committed to improving road safety through our ongoing
learning and experience.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
How about the illegal U You think there should be
a problem there or we're committed to improving road safety.
This is what this is what pr hacks get paid for,
this sort of corporate speaker political speech. So, the new
law that was just signed by Gavin Newsom last year
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allows law enforcement agencies to report instances of autonomous vehicles
non compliance, that is, driving erratically, making illegal U turns,
making left turns through a red light, and that would
force or allow law enforcement to report to the DMV
(08:40):
quote non compliance, and then the DMV is now in
the process of hashing out specifics potential penalties. For example,
do you just ticket Waimo for one illegal U turn
or do you go.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ahead and make it penalize them a lot more?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Now, the original form of the law would have allowed
self driving cars to be ticketing, but it was watered
down with amendments all over the place. The loudest critics
Teamsters Union, which said that the law takes California backwards.
The Western Region vice president of the Teamsters International Brotherhood
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the Western Region, I think he goes. I bet every
Californians wish that when they make mistake driving they got
a courtesy note instead of an expensive ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, I don't know if this is a courtesy.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Note because it is a straight out violation. Now in
Arizona or Texas, they're a little bit stiffer than that.
They also have an autonomous vehicle presence. Both states updated
their law years ago to allow the officers to issue
citations to the registered owner of the car even if
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no human is present. The registered owner of the car,
of course, is Weamo.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is Google own Wemo?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I think it does? Or is Weimo independent? I have
absolutely no idea. Yeah, no, Google is owned by Weimo's
owned by Google Alphabet And I'm a big fan of
autonomous vehicles. I think they're infinitely safer they don't get drunk,
they don't fall asleep, and the few instances of crashes
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are minuscule relative to the number of miles that were driven.
I think it was Weimo that started its test run
in Phoenix, and they drove millions of miles before being
allowed to go completely autonomous. I believe that once autonomous
vehicles hit the roads in numbers, there will never be
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gridlock again, and cars will be able to zip along
at sixty five miles an hour, two feet from each other.
And there's where technology is. So are we going to
be ludites about it? Well, the teamsters certainly don't want
don't want an autonomous drivers or non drivers with the trucks.
(11:16):
Oh no, we don't want that because it's not as safe. Well,
actually it is as safe, if not longer, if not
more so. All right, enough of that, you know, waybo.
Have you ever taken awaymo? Anybody has?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I have it?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I have a bunch of times, and it's great. I've
done it in San Francisco a bunch of times. I've
done it here a bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You don't find it a little bit disconcerting to get
into a car that there is no driver in front.
Phase mean the slightest is there. I don't even I've
never seen one. Actually, is there a steering wheel?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah? Oh, you know what's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I will tell you it has a screen on it
and you can see what it sees through its scanners,
and it's flair and all. It's different technology. And I
will tell you I drove with one a couple times
at night, and it sees people that I could not
see with my own eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It saw people on dark sidewalks.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It saw people where there were no lights that I
couldn't see with my own eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So that impressed the hell out of me. Did you
refer to the non driver as Casper?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, I didn't even think about it. Yeah, I just
got it. I sat, I sat up front the passenger
seat one time, and.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It is absolutely me ask you so this when you're
upfront and there's no driver, this is when talking to
yourself doesn't raise any eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
No, I didn't talk to myself, but I listened to
iHeartRadio in there. Oh not fair enough? All right?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Coming out, that's kind of fun. I have to get
hold of one of those because they're in LA. I
wonder how you can you ask for a waimo.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, it's just like getting an Uber.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
The only difference is because there's less of them, it
takes longer, probably fifteen to twenty minutes or something to
get one, whereas it can take three minutes for an Uber.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I've got to try it out. I definitely have to
try it out. And I'm assuming the cost is equivalent. No,
it's less, okay, and you don't have to tip.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It'll be interesting to see though if it if costs
go up as more people start using it, like it
has with.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Uber and Lyft.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, all right. Disney, oh god, Disney is in a mess.
It's a lose lose for Disney. The heat they really
had it a real problem with Rond de Santis. When Disney,
which has been known for years decades as being pro
LGBTQ rights, it was one of the companies that was
(13:53):
the most inclusive companies in America. Well, in Rond de Santis, Florida,
that's not such a good idea. And they got into it,
and DeSantis actually pulled Disney's ability to control its own
its own county actually, and it was that was not
easy for Disney.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
So now you got the Jimmy Kimmel situation. Oh boy. Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
While the Jimmy Kimmel situation is going on, the company
is also looking for Bob Eiger's successor. Bob Iger, a
renowned CEO who has done it twice. He retired. Then
you had cheap pac come in that Eiger chose who
screwed the pooch? Iiger came back, and now he's retiring
next year and they are looking at a new CEO.
(14:39):
And what a mess the ceo is going to inherit
And it had to do. It started in this instance
with the Jimmy Kimmel Show. And Jimmy Kimmel is a
Communedian as we know late night show, and he's fairly liberal,
certainly a tax administration. But you know, all the late
night hosts attack the administration whichever the administration certainly attacked
(15:03):
Joe Biden, but not to the extent that they attack
this president this administration because frankly, this administration has more
stuff to make fun of.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's the issue. There's just more there. There is fodder there.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So let's look at and I'm going to talk about
a post that I put up and let's talk about
exactly what Jimmy Kimmel said that got him and ABC,
which suspended the show, said that's it. We're done because
of what Jimmy Kimble said, which I'll tell you in
a second. And then the backlash was so extraordinary that
(15:44):
a couple of days later, ABC or Disney produced it right,
put it right back on the air. And the backlash
on that one is coming up. So here's what he said.
He basically said, and this is remarks about the Charlie
Kirk shooting, that the suspect who had been arrested was
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a Make America Great Again Republican and that Trump supporters.
It sort of suggested that and Trump supporters were trying
to score political points from the tragedy. Now is that
pretty offensive? Yeah, if I'm a member of MAGA or MAGA,
it certainly is. And if I'm a Trump supporter and
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I'm being accused of somehow making a political deal out
of Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's shooting, excuse me for a moment.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Has a political deal been made out of the shooting?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Has it had tremendous political influence?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah? It has.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's the reality Now, accusing various people who are being
responsible for the shooting is one thing or another. And
I talked yesterday about the shame of what's going on
with the Charlie Kirk murder, and that is it is
now devolved in many ways into a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Who killed Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And now we're talking the jfk assassination And it gets
crazy taking away from the importance and the influence of
Charlie Kirk, because you can't take that away from him.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Now he has become deified that he has.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
He has in many ways become Abraham Lincoln to many
members of the Conservatives. He's not a member of MEGA,
but he certainly is or was very conservative, and created
a whole movement of college students and it was I mean,
you had stadiums full of people that were remembering him
(17:47):
and had rallies and remembrances.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
So this is what Kimmel did.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
He said that it's ten seconds, and the backlash was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
TV stations pulled it. Now.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
The way it works with national television, you have a
company like ABC, owned by Disney, produces the show and
then it goes to affiliate. I think the station. ABC
owns five stations. It used to be five stations used
to be able to be owned five oh to oh
owned and operated, and then the rest of them were
all owned by various companies. And two major companies still
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refused to carry it. And that's because, well, what a shocker.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
They need FCC.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Approval to allow the merger that they're doing the sale
of those companies. All right, now, let's finish the show
with what happened with Disney and the Jimmy Kimmel feurer.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
As you know could recap.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Jimmy Kimmel made a comment in reference to the Charlie
Kirk shooting suggesting that the suspect the killer was a
Make America Great Again Republican and that Trump supporters were
trying to score political points from the murder. Pretty offensive,
and he was fired for that, and then Disney brought
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him back two days later. And the argument is First Amendment,
First Amendment rights that Disney and the affiliates that will
no longer carry the Jimmy Kimble Show are getting in
the way of First Amendment. That the President threatening to sue,
which he did after Kimball was back on the air,
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and the pressure that he is able to obsert, particularly
with the FCC, which licenses everything that's on the air,
and Brendan Carr, the SEC Commissioner, said he is looking
at Yankee ABC's license, Disney's license to broadcast. Okay, So
I was one of those that said, this is First
(19:45):
Amendment issue, this is the administration getting in the way
of First Amendment.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Come on, guys. So I posted something.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Along those lines, and I cannot tell you how many
responses I got saying, well, how about Roseanne Barr when
she was fired? You didn't say a word about First Amendment?
Then you hypocrite. Well here's the difference.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
What he said was you can disagree or agree with it,
and it's pretty offensive to many people.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
But that's pretty much political.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
What Roseanne Barr did is left off a whole sealer
let a whole series of racist tweets the night she
was fired. Night before she was fired, including a comment
referring to former Obama aid Valerie Jarrett as the offspring
of the Muslim Brotherhood and planet of the Apes. Now
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there's a difference. I mean, does she have a First
Amendment right? Yeah, of course she does. Should she get fired,
I would have fired her for something that offensive. And
let me make the analogy here, because it's simply a
question of where the line is, and among political those
that have strong political beliefs, there is no line. And
(21:02):
so let me give you what I think is the
best analogy. If you have sex with a feather that's
considered is exotic, if you have sex with the entire chicken,
that is on a different level that has gone beyond
the peel. And that's what happened with Roseanne bar It
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was so racist, it was so offensive that ABC just
said we can't.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Tell you were gone, Bill, And I agree with you
one thousand percent, which is one of the reasons why
I stood by Jimmy Kimmel as well. But the one
thing that is a direct comparison is Gina Carano, who
got fired from the Mandalorian Disney owned television show for
saying something that was said very similarly by the male
(21:54):
lead and he stayed and she didn't offensive. And I
have no and I have heard of lawsuit though against Disney.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, and I have no problem with that at all.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is where a corporation caves blows it and this
is what Disney has to deal with Disney, as I said,
is in a very bad position.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It's a lose lose.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Although you can talk Mandalorian and you can talk about
what's going on politically, I'll stick with the sex with
a feather and chicken.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well done, the analogy. It will last throughout the day.
I'm sure, yes, it is all right.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I am out of here tomorrow young Kipoor, which I
have never worked in my entire life, so I'm taking
off the day and Neil of course it's in for me.
And then on Friday I'm back again where we do
the show and nothing changes, all right in the meantime
(22:49):
when is Will come back.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
By the way, Amy.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Will, he's still just in the first few days of
his vacation, so he's not back for another week.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And a half.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay in Italy, yep, it's eating the pizza was just phenomenal,
all right. Tomorrow morning it starts with Amy and Neil,
and then Neil continues on hosting the show, and then
of course Ann and kno are always here and I'm
not Gary and Shannon are coming right up. Kfi am six.
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