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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI AM A six forty handle here and it is
a non foody Friday, September six. Neil is not with
us today. Wayne is Neil comes back on Monday, coming
up at seven point thirty. Were, Man, I'm going to
talk to you or Wayne's going to talk to you
about this Hunter Biden business. That was just a shocker.
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He pled guilty yesterday. He took everybody for a loop.
And then the other big story and we knew this
one was going to have a lot of legs. And
this has to do with that shooter, that fourteen year
old shooter in Georgia who came in back into the
school with his AR fifteen is assault tight weapon and
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shot up a classroom and killed two students, two teachers
and then wounded nine others, one other teacher and then
eight students. And the story I told you about this yesterday,
he goes to.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
His algebra class, leaves the algebra.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Class, comes back into school with the weapon, knocks on
the door. A student opens the door, sees him with
this cult Gray fourteen, his name Colt Gray, and sees
this kid with the gun immediately shuts the door, and
so Gray goes.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Into the next classroom and shoots it up.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Now, this was a story that has some magnitude anyway,
because you've got a fourteen year old killing two fourteen
year olds and wounding a bunch of others and two teachers.
But it went beyond that because the question is how
does a fourteen year old get this kind of a weapon.
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It is illegal in Georgia and I think in every
state for this kind of a weapon to be in
the hands of a fourteen year old. So the story
really goes on because we heard almost immediately that the
FBI had actually questioned him and his dad a year earlier,
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because there were several anonymous tips that said he is
talking about shooting up the school, that he is threatening
to do this. So the FBI comes out, they questioned him,
he denies it. His father says, yes, I have weapons
at home, but they are locked up.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
My son Colet does not have access to those weapons.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Six months later, the father buys his kid as a
Christmas gift this weapon.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Now, they were in the middle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
From what I understand, it was a bitter, bitter divorce
with the parents. And here's a Christmas gift, and the
father immediately questioned, go.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wait a minute, come on, what's he doing.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So it used to be that parents, they'd get a
slap on the wrist. He the father, Colin Gray, has
been arrested for murder, charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter,
two counts of second degree murder, and eight counts of
cruelty to children.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Becoming more and more common, and why because we have
to look at parents. You know, the analogy I'm going
to make is drunk driving, killing people while you're inebriated.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
It used to be a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
It was considered pretty much an accident when someone was
killed because of a drunk driver. Well today it's serious
jail time when that happens, vehicular manslaughter. And that's all
because of public pressure and mad mothers against drunk drivers
that brought that to our attention. Same thing is happening
now in the world of parents either well, in this case,
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horrifically buying the kid this kind of a weapon after
having been told that this kid was under suspicion by
the way the cops and I know the story is,
oh what in the cops. Did the cops do anything wrong, No,
they didn't. The kid denied it. The father said, the
guns are locked up. They had no more evidence than
they walked away. And by the way, if they really
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did think the kid was a risk, let's say, what
do you do with that? Literally, what do you do
with that? Do you follow up twenty four hours a day.
I don't know what you can do. I'll tell you
one thing you can't do is buy your kid a
gun for Christmas after the cops have shown up. And
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I think this is really exacerbating his problem. And these,
as I said, these cases are becoming more and more common.
You've got people all over the country where parents are
being charged. Some would just outright negligence, but criminal negligence,
and in this case, straight out murder, two counts, a
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second degree murder right off the bat.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Because he gave the that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And then yesterday I heard and one of the things
that dad said was I gave him this weapon because
we were going to do a father son We're going
to go out to the range, we were going to
practice together, we were going to just have a rip
roaring good time. And then the question is okay, you
do that, and Wayne brought this up. Okay, you give
him a twenty two rifle, right, you give him a
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weapon that is not designed to kill people.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know, even for those of you that are gun advocates,
and even for those of you that have the AR fifteen.
For example, let me ask you, you have a fourteen
year old kid. Do you go to the shooting range
and each of you have an AR fifteen and you
shoot up the targets with a fourteen year old? A
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year after, the FBI shows up and says, hey, we've
got a problem here. Here's the allegation. We heard from
multiple sources that it has done that. Noah, No, he
don't do this kid denies it.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wow. I think that's why this guy is going to
go down.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And I wonder if he's going to go to trial
even yeah, I don't know if he's going to plead out,
because I think this is the early stages of nailing
parents for this kind of activity, where it goes beyond
criminal negligence right into straight out murder charges. I mean,
that's sort of breaking new ground. But there have been cases.
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There was a case in which parents got a couple
of years for doing this. Yeah, in twenty twenty three,
the mother of that six year old boy I remember
in Virginia who shot his teacher in the chest. Mom
got two years for that one. But that was felony
child neglect. This one is out outright murder. And this
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is I've talked a lot, and we've talked about how
we've reached the point now, and this is one of
the stories to spin off stories of this is.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I told you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
When I was a kid, it was drop drills because
it was during the Cold War and it was the
atomic weapons coming in from Russia. Today it's active shooter situations.
I'd said, how do you protect yourself? How do kids
not get shot? How do parents not feel? Is this
going to be the last dam I'm going to see
my child? How do kids say, is this going to
be the last DAMM alive when I go to school?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, it is horrific. So the authority showed up
pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
We now know that Voulde situations are not going to
happen very often, and we know that the police are
trained to rush whatever situation. Now there's technology here, and
this is simply an example of look where we have
come to, and I guess the argument is where the
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statement is, this makes sense, and this is a good idea,
and unfortunately this makes sense and we sort of have
to have this. So authorities, the police were first notified
of an active incident.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That's the way it's describe.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
When Appalachi High School faculty and staff deploys something called Centigex,
the Center dis Crisis Alert ID technology equipped with what
they say is an unobstrusive panic button and they press
down on a badge. I think they're wearing this and
according to the Barrow County Sheriff, he goes all of
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our teachers are armed with a form of an ID
call centijex.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's an individual ID that you actually.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Press on the badge and it is a panic alarm,
a panic button, but goes way way beyond that. The Sheriff, J.
Samith said, CENTERGEX alarms US. Centergix alarms US and alerts
the Law Enforce office after buttons are pressed on that
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ID alerts US there's an active situation at the school
for whatever reason. It's a cloud based wearable safety technology
and enables rapid notification of emergency situations and response by
local law enforcement. Okay, so far, it just sounds like
a panic button, doesn't it. You press the button and
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the cops and it's a direct line to the cops
and it says, here we go. It's almost like an
instantaneous nine to one one call and it's all automated.
And here's According to the website, the Safety Solutions Company
was founded on the idea that technology can create safer,
more secure environments. Our Safety Solution uses market defining technology
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that delivers the functionality, the connectivity, the accessibility needed to
stand up to real world emergencies like active shooters in
the school, you know, killing teachers and students. The Georgia
Bureau Investigation, the Director, Chris Hosey said, and this was
during a press conference on Wednesday night, the protocols at
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this school, in this system, activated today prevented this from
being a much larger tragedy than what we had here today.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And that's always been the case.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
The sooner the authorities show up and of course they
are rushing the scene, than the number of people who
are killed.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It's hard to say this, but are limited.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
It keeps down the number of people that are shot
up or killed. I know it doesn't help a lot
for the families of those students who are killed. But
you hear that all the time. It could have been worse.
Worse being Uvalde, where the cops were sitting outside for
seventy seven minutes as the shooter was killing every kid
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in the classroom was shooting them up. So the alert
system provided to educators and other school staff not only
excuse me, I'm taking this from the website, not only discreetly.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That's the part that I find so interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It's so discreet They say that you didn't know that
it's happening. Discreetly communicates the law enforce of an emergency.
But also, and this is where the technology really starts
going tells the police the location of the threat so
they don't have to do it on a cell phone,
and updates the floor plans as needed.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So in.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The technology is the floor plan of that school, so
the cops not only know exactly who press the button,
but where that person is and the floor plan of
that entire school, so they have a much better idea.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Also, it includes identifying buildings, visitors, safety assets, first aid kids,
fire alarms that tell the authorities where everything is now
that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Also, it the issue of reunification of.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Students and staff following evacuations, where the parents can meet students.
I mean it sets all of that ups a hell
of a platform, to say the least. And now we
go back to the CEO of Cynegex on the website.
We designed a private managed network in conjunction with software
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as a service cloud solutions that provide multi layer safety
protection with one hundred percent grounds coverage and room level location.
Doesn't it sound like a commercial. Doesn't it sound like
an ad. Here's what we do, and the bottom line
is we're here to use our technology to minimize the
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chances of you, students, parents, officers being killed.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I want to go back to the original premise.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
This is what America is about, not only the negative
part of America of course, that we have these school shootings,
but you have private enterprise coming to the table and say, okay,
what can we do about it?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And then JD.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Vance coming came in yesterday and I said the same
thing before it was released. What he said, we simply
have to accept this as school shootings as simply a
part of doing business in the United States.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's part of who we are. You know, you have
to accept it, that's all. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's horrible, and he says it's horrible, and who's not
going to say that. But we have to harden the
schools right now. Schools are a soft target. And as
I said, the only thing that's going to make schools
truly safer is you basically make them tsa checkpoints where
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you have everybody has a backpack that's searched. You have
metal detectors people you know with the wand I mean
all of that at all access points, and you can't
come in without a reason. You have to show idea
that you're a student. That has to be confirmed. It's
really crazy stuff. And now there is technology with this
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synthejet system.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
All right, figure that one out.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yesterday something rather extraordinary happened, and that is out of
the blue, Hunter Biden pled guilty to nine federal tax
charges here in LA and I mean completely out of
the blue. I'm gonna just turn it over to Wayne.
This is his wheelhouse. Wayne will explain what and how
because there's a couple of wonky things that Wayne does
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a fabulous job because it's his Wayne was a fed
what probation officer for what twenty eight years? Yes, and
you and this is the kind of case that you
would be working on, especially here in one of them.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yes, one of my former colleagues is being assigned to
write a pre sentence report for Hunter Biden, probably as
we speak.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
All right, So tell us what's going on.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, all right, So, as you know, Hunter Biden was
charged with the tax evasion, failure to pay tax, and
filing false tax return. And you also know that he
has that Gun case that's going on, and way back
when you may remember build the headlines, when they had
worked out a global plea deal to settle the Gun
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case and the tax case that many people felt was
too lenient, and it blew up when the judge, not
not the judge on this tax case, the other judge
became concerned about what it meant for Hunter Biden's future
immunity from any other charges, and there was a disagreement
about what it meant, and the whole thing blew up.
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So he has been pursuing a trial in this tax
case this whole time. You know, I'm not guilty, We're
going to go to trial. And they got all the
way up to reselection and yesterday, they walk in. The
defense walks in and says, we would like to plead guilty,
but we would like to plead guilty with an Alford plea.
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And an Alfred plea is a very weird, quirky thing
in the law that allows a person to plead guilty
while at the same time affirmatively maintaining that they are innocent.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Doesn't that immediately nail him in terms of the sentencing,
judges want to hear number one. If you're guilty or guilty,
and you admit it and show remorse. In this case,
there's no remorse because you didn't do it as far
as you're concerned, as far as the defendant's concern. Yet,
pleading guilty, I guess, just to get it out of
the way, that has to nail someone in terms of
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a sentencing, it's gonna deny it.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
It would normally deny someone the benefit that we associate
with pleading guilty, which is that you admit what you
did and you feel bad about it. But here's what happened.
The prosecutors went crazy. They don't let him do it.
He shouldn't be allowed to do it. This is trickery.
This is shammery. We prepared for this trial, and now
he wants to just get away with this. And so
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the judge said, you guys, file something. I'm gonna look
at it later today and I'll decide if I'm going
to let him do it or not. And I guess
the defense said, okay, we don't want all that hassle.
The most important thing, and this is the big takeaway
from this, the most important thing to take away is
how much Hunter Biden did not want a trial because
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of everything that would come out, not about his tax behavior,
but of his all that other behavior with the drugs
and the sex workers and the dancers and you know,
the sordid life. So they came back and said, you
know what, we'll just plead regular never mind this crazy
Alfred please suggest, We'll just plead.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And that's what he did. He just pled straight up.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Or they call it an open plea because there's no
agreement of any kind with the government.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now a charge were pretty serious.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
You're talking about tax evasion, lying on a tax form.
I think that's straight out perjury under the penalty of perjury.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I mean, there are a bunch of serious charges here.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Now we're being told they could he could get up
to seventeen years in prison, which all right, now, I
always do this give us some realism here, what is
what would you be looking at if he was in
front of you and in front of a judge and
you're writing the report realistically, what are you.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Looking at or what is he looking at?
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Under the advisory sentencing guidelines which is the starting point.
Although a judge can do whatever they want if they
have a good reason, two to four years is probably
what his range will be, and that will depend on
how much ultimate tax loss they find. We know they've
said one point four million in taxes where he filed
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returns and said, Hi, here's my return. I owe this
money and never paid it. Those are the misdemeanors for
simple not paying it. That's one point four million. There's
also some years where he was taking deductions that he
should not have been taking because he said it was
for legitimate things, but it was really for running around
and having this crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Life that he was living.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And it's impossible to know right now how much more
that's going to add to the criminal tax total for
sentencing purposes. And that's why I say two to four
He might be like two to three, or depending on
if it's enough money, he might jump up to more
of a three to four.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Okay, And he.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Is saying the defense is saying that he has paid
all taxes that are owed. Assuming that's true, If he
goes into court and said, I understand I owe this tax,
it's all paid off, he's still looking.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
At jail time.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That would ordinarily be a very strong mitigating factor for
a person to walk in and say, this is all
taken care of. So, I mean, look, who knows what
this judge is going to think about having to go
all the way to jury selection and then having the
guilty plea. But I could definitely see a non custodial
sentence for him because of the paying it back and
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also because of one other thing.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I'll just as quickly as I can.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Before he got into the drugs and hats went crazy,
he was more responsible about taxes than most people who
make a lot of money. He set up a company
and the government this is what the government is saying.
This is not me trying to shade it to his benefit.
He set up a company for the sole purpose of
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getting all of his income so they could make sure
there was enough withholding being taken for his taxes and
had a separate tax account in case he ended up
owing more than the withholding would be. There was a
period of time when he was the most responsible wealthy
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taxpayer or on the same level as the most responsible
wealthy taxpayer in this country, and then he became a
complete hot mess.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, So I'm assuming that has a lot to do
with it too, where we're not talking malicious, we're not
talking a criminal mind.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
We're talking about that got involved with drugs.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I mean, that isn't the greatest excuse, but it's far
different than planning this over the course of years than
a Robert Vesco or Bernie made Off.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yes, I mean good comparison.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
So my view is there's a couple of highly mitigating
factors here, and the gun case is really the going
to be the problem in terms of avoiding jail, because
in the gun case he's starting off looking at more
time and it's a gun case.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And then the other issue on the political side, as
Joe Biden, and I believe Joe Biden on this one,
he is not going to pardon He is not going
to pardon him.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
I believe him. Too, and he can't. That's the end
of his legacy. If he promised he wouldn't and then
turns around and does it. That doesn't mean should there
be a Adam president, That doesn't mean they're a pardon
would not necessarily occur.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's a good point. I hadn't thought that one through.
That's true. I'm just looking at the possible fallout. Biden
doesn't get a pardon where his dad is the president,
and every January sixth insurgent, they all get pardons, every
one of them.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Oh well, at least it's kind of fair.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Everybody's getting pardoned, no matter which side of the spectrum
you're on.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I guess can't talk about unfair treatment.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Thanks Wayne, greatly appreciated. All Right, Ah, I love this one.
When this came up, and this is and I've said
this before, and I sort of have mixed feelings about
this one, and that is, how do you deal with homelessness?
And it doesn't matter how we're dealing with homelessness. We're
throwing money at this thing like crazy, and it's just
getting worse or maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
It's leveled off.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I don't even know, but it's sixty thousand homeless people
in La County. I mean, it's just crazy making. And
so I've always said it has to be incremental. We're
gonna have to deal with bits and pieces. And next
year there'll be fewer homeless, hopefully, and then the year
after that, if not fewer homeless, next year there'll be
more homeless units out there, there'll be more housing. In
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the year after that, there'll be more, and incrementally it grows.
So one of the great ideas that happened in the
city of La was Measure ULA Right.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
This was a new tax.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
On homes that sold for more than five million dollars
and homes that sold for more.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Than ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It was a four percent hit for any home between
five million and ten million dollars, and then it became,
I think a five point five percent additional tax on
homes that sold above ten million dollars. Now, I mean,
how many of us have homes in the five to
ten million or more range.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I mean, that's pretty rarefy there.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But here's my point, and that is, in the end,
for those of you that think that wealthy people have
all of these loopholes, wealthy people do not have the loopholes.
That used to be that wealthy people had loopholes that
you could drive mac trucks through.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Not the case anymore at all.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
And if you look at who pays the taxes, particularly
here in California, it used to be the middle class
pay the vast majority of taxes.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
The poor, of course, never going to pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
There's a safety net to some extent where we help
the poor, so they're out.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Of the tax base except receiving money.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
And then you had the very wealthy and they got
away with paying very little tax and the great swath
of the middle class ended up paying all the taxes
vast majority. That's switched Now the top twenty percent pay
eighty percent and I think the top one percent pay
over fifty percent of the tax I mean, you know,
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both and get hit pretty pretty heavily. And that's one
of the things I have My problem with Kamala Harris
is it ain't gonna be good to be rich under
a Harris administration.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's just that simple.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
And we'll certainly talk about that through the presidential season
the presidential election season. So what we did well, First
of all, California, the most taxed state in the Union,
La County, the most taxed in the most taxed county
in the.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
State.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And then we have the city of La the most
taxed city within the most taxed county, within the most
taxed state.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
And it is.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Just great fun living here. And so here's the point.
Anybody can come up with anything to tax the rich.
The rich don't have a lobby. They really don't. Now,
industry has lobbies, the pharmaceutical people have lobbies, you know,
the medical professionals lobbies. Lawyers have lobbies, manufacturers have lobbies.
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But quote, the rich don't have lobbies. They're just not
number one, not enough of them. And number two, you know,
how are you possibly going to get any give any
credence to the rich person's lobby. Poor people certainly are
represented as they should be, you know, they should have
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groups watching out for them. Rich people don't not for
the most part. So we went ahead and this, by
the way, this was not city council. This was approved
by the voters in La. Let's go ahead and put
this tax four percent. By the way, this is not
a small tax either. If UU your house sells for
let's say five million and two dollars, right, that's four percent, right,
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that's two hundred thousand dollars that the seller is paying for.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I mean that is that's a nice check.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And all of a sudden, you know you're going, okay,
that's another tax people have money.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Is that fair?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Well, it depends on what side of the coin you're on.
You know, if you're a Bernie Sanders or you're a
Kamala Harris. More so Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, there
isn't enough tax. Bernie Sanders was asked once what what
do you think income tax should be? And he said,
I don't know. I don't know, but I'll know it
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when I see it's or of the Justice Potter with pornography.
I can't describe it, but I know it when I
see it. And someone one of the reporters said seventy percent,
eighty percent, and Bernie Sanders says, that's about right income tax.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
So Kamala Harris, well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Believe me, she's gonna get involved with a lot more
taxation than we have now. But the point is now
what happens because you know what the city raised since
it's kicked in two years ago, three hundred and seventy
five million dollars and now it's going for and by
the way, they haven't spent any money yet because it
was a task force that was tasked to come up
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with some of the programs and that's just starting.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
We'll see if that helps.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Maybe, you know, I think every little bit helps, but
you know, it's just getting tougher and tougher. Now. The
argument is is you're rich, you know, how much do
you really need?
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
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