December 17, 2024 • 22 mins
Bill shares his thoughts on the school shooting in Madison, Wisconsin that left two dead plus the shooter.No college degree? No worries, Newsom unveils plan for well-paying jobs without one. CEOs are feeling a lot more upbeat about the new year. ‘A Necessary Evil’: The captive dogs whose blood saves lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty KFI.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Tuesday morning,
December eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yesterday, well, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Was the three hundred and twenty third school shooting in
the US this year, which is the second highest number
since nineteen sixty six, which as far back as.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The data goes. YEP.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This was in Madison, Wisconsin, and it was a student, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Year old girl, which is unusual.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I killed a teacher and a student and wounded maybe
a dozen more or six more.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I don't know what the numbers are. And that got.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Me immediately thinking about what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm not going to advocate gun control. I stopped doing
that years ago. That ship has sailed. But it did
get me thinking about, you know, who we are and
how the rest, certainly the industrial world, looks at at
America and basically they think we're nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's that simple when it comes to guns.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And I'll tell you why, because whenever you hear, even
among gun advocates thoughts and prayers, I believe that they do.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Engage in thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I believe gun advocates, even the most fanatic gun advocates
do feel terrible about what happened yesterday and what happens
during the course of a year where hundreds.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Of school shootings occur. I do believe that. On the
other hand, I'll also tell you what I believe.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I believe that they believe that the Second Amendment is
more powerful than anything else in this country, more powerful
than the First Amendment, more powerful than the Fifth Amendment.
And I think that they believe, as I believe, in
(02:06):
many cases, it's simply the course of doing business in
the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's just the cost.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And if another shooting happened today and a dozen kids
were killed, they would feel bad and still not want
any controls at all.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
If a thousand.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Kids were killed today, its thoughts and prayers, and so
no one's pushing for gun control anymore, certainly not people
who aren't out there, but common sense gun controls what
they're talking about. California has, I think, is number fifth
(02:46):
in gun deaths in the country, and it has the
strictest gun control. Of course, the number of school shootings
and deaths by guns or in those states that are
completely pro guns, mainly in the South and Wyoming South
to Code of that sort of thing where guns are
simply part of who you are and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Those that are where the deaths occur. But again.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It is just a philosophy, that's it. The way we
think is simply the cost of doing business. When we
had the draft, it was the cost of doing business
in this country. The electoral college, which makes no sense
at all, is here to stay, and it's just the
cost of doing business that we don't have a direct
(03:30):
election of a president and vice president.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
We do across the board.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It used to be that senators weren't elected by a
general vote. It was legislatures that elected senators and.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That all went away.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So now the only vote that's left that is not
a general vote the majority of the voters is the
electoral college.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And as crazy as it is.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's the cost of doing business in this country. So
when uh waiting ten days in California, well tons of
people are against that universal background check. That is a
violation of the Second Amendment. Mental health reporting. This is
(04:13):
my favorite one, and that is the argument among gun
addicts that say the problem is not the ownership of guns,
but those who are mentally ill, and we have to
do a better job of dealing with those people and
keeping guns from them. Now, keep in mind, anybody can
(04:34):
walk into a gun store wait in California, even wait
ten days over twenty one, and you got a gun
if you're not a felon. Well, one in four Americans
have diagnosable mental disorders.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
One in four. That's seventy five million people.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And we have to look at all of those people
to see if they are a risk. Seventy five million,
or let's go down to half of that, let's go
down to a tenth of that. That's still seven point
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five million people who are mentally ill.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And that's our problem. It's age restrictions.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Boy, that you can't deal with that because that's a
violation of Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And you know, you know gun control is gone, but
is sensible gun control. And it's a slippery So I
understand where they're coming from. You pass anything, and that's
the start of the government taking guns away. Any restriction
is the next step is the government coming in taking
your guns away in violation of the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Man, that is a slope that's pretty pretty steep. So anyway,
that's what I.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Was thinking about over the course since yesterday with the
gun shooting in Madison at that Christian school. It's you know,
it's a tough one. Hopefully we don't have another one
because we only have what fifteen days till the end
of the year, not even twelve days to the end
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of the year. Hopefully there won't be number three hundred
and twenty four.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
All right now.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Gavin Newsom unveiled another blueprint to create well paid careers
for Californians, especially people who don't have college degrees. More
people are questioning the value of higher education.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
As I do. It is expensive stuff. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Long term, if you have a college degree, you make
more money, not short term. Let me tell you get
a high paying job and instead of sitting four years
of college only two hundred fifty thousand dollars, you start
working now for eighty thousand dollars. Maybe at the end
of it all you're making more money with a college degree,
(07:08):
but it's kind of neat having some money now relative
to going to school. Do you remember how poor you
were when you were in college. If you're making eighty
thousand or one hundred thousand dollars a year in a
highly skilled job, you're not that poor. So Newsom wants
to streamline, coordinate state and regional efforts to prepare students
(07:30):
and workers for high demand jobs that pay good money,
hands on learning, job related skills, wider access to affordable education.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
My son in law, Brandon is learning to be a welder.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Because you know what, you can go to school or
you can be a welder or among other jobs, highly
skilled that takes a while.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You don't need a college degree, but it pays really
good money.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And coming out of college, how easy it is to
get a job, especially when you have some.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Kind of a liberal arts degree. And what kind of
degree do you have?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
What was your degree in? I have a BA and
bad ass?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, great, they don't give you even though it is
bad ass?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
What is the actual BA? And I just did a
two year okay and I got hired in area. Okay,
all right, Amy, you have a four year, don't you? Yes?
And what I have a BS in speech communications?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh okay, that's that's almost like a BU, like a basic.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I always thought it was funny that they called it
a BS.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I know it's true basic useless, that's true. And Neil,
I know, doesn't have a college degree, but Neil is
highly skilled.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, you are, no, Neil, you are. No, You're a
highly skilled guy. You are, and college would.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Have gotten in the way for you. You would be
behind by four years where you are now.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I always joke that the only thing that has degrees
in my home is my thermometer and my wife.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah right, she does have her masters. And I have
to know a little bit of how much money you
guys make. Uh and you you, Neil does very very well.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We do fine. Yeah without a college degree.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
We both have small businesses.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
In addition, no matter.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Now, I'm just saying I don't want to compare because
i'm you know, Tracy is highly highly skilled.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Uh so I won't go.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Into Oh well, no, Tracy has her own practice and
she has decided to uh step back to raise Max.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah different, pregnant in the kitchen, right, although you're in
the kitchen and then uh.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, barefoot and looking pregnant.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Cono college degree, I have a master's that did it
help you get this job? Caps?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, No, it helped me get here.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, Oh, because you've got the guy with a regular
degree who also is probably not going to get the
job because you did.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Okay, let me.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Put it this way, does your degree have anything to
do with what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Loosely, yeah, I'm in communications.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
The answer is no, that's what I meant. He do
not correct me. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Now, there are certain things you need an undergrad undergrad
degree for granted, if you're going to medical school you
have to have an undergrad degree. If you're going to
law school, you have to have an undergrad degree. But
short of those profession architecture. To be a licensed architecture
you have to have an undergree. But short of that, man,
(11:02):
today I would tell by kids to say, hey, don't
do it. My daughter Pamela is doing it and she'll
be doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
For the rest of her life. My daughter Barbara doesn't
have a degree.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That's why, based on me pushing them, they both dropped
out of junior high school and they're going to.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Be just great. The point is is the college degree
means less and less.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Now if you have a liberal arts degree like I did,
I got a Bachelor of Arts and Political Science, about
as useless as you can get short of a bachelor
degree in communication or broadcast journalism or whatever the hell,
Completely useless. It was only good for working as an
assistant manager at McDonald's. They like people with undergrad degrees. Actually,
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they're like people who are bilingual. To be true, fully bilingual,
and you see those all the time. Is actually a
better skill than having an undergrad degree, especially today, especially
in southern California. So the word is out there, and
that is I tell people, no, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Don't do it. You take a.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Certificate program, you finish it up in maybe a year,
you do some interning, and you're walking into a job
that pays eighty thousand, one hundred thousand dollars a year.
I don't know how many second year undergrads make one
hundred grand a year.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Working part time?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You bet you all right now, quickly moving to a
story about CEOs. One of the things about the president
president elects soon to be present is people, not only
legislators Republicans ones are falling in line and doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Senators are saying.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's not our job to vet, it's only our job
to vote in whoever President Trump wants. Yeah, the idea
of a separate Congress or separate Senate doesn't exist. Okay,
that's I mean, it's astounding the kind of power that
this man has been able to garner it is and
this is outside of policy, this is outside of what
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I think about him. It's simply an astounding fact that
he is that powerful, and the historians will be looking
at that forever. The CEOs of companies are lining up
to bend the knee. Mark Zuckerberg of Meta, who hated
him and Trump hated Zuckerberg lining up, Amazon founder Jeff
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Bezos lining up, Sam Alton of open Ai lining up,
and other CEOs who.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Trump just likes.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I mean, there was no issue for them to line
up because they were always there because of the conservative
philosophy of being pro business.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And I mean in a major way.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This will be one of the most pro business presidents
we have ever had. And the CEOs are thrilled, beyond thrills.
A matter of fact, survey was just taken and they're
looking at twenty twenty five as a year in which
America is going.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
To do great.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Matter of fact, they're arguing more opportunity, more money to
be made, more jobs will be created, more profit than
this year, last year, where there's some great years, and
that's because of regulations being torn apart. You know, regulations
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as to for example, environmental regulations, taxing regulations gone or
will be reduced dramatically, Taxes on corporations will be lowered dramatically.
You've got a pro business environment coming up, and the
liberal agenda is going to be stuck just where it is,
(15:22):
or it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's going to lose influence. It's just that simple. We're in.
It's like the court. It's like the court. Okay, there
was a liberal court for thirty years, forty years. Roe v.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Wade was a liberal decision. Oh boy was it a
liberal decision. Which, by the way, if you look at
it just legally, it has no basis in the law.
The argument against Roe is stronger legally than the argument
in favor of Roe, and Roe disappeared because of this president.
(15:57):
And so you're going to see a very conservative court upholding,
for example, religious rights more so than the separation of
church and state.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You're gonna see prayer in school. You're going to see.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
In the NFL before every play you will see the
quarterback bend down and make a prayer and cross himself,
which you see all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I love that. I love the fact that both teams.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Pray for God to interfere if we win, it'll be
God's choice. Did you know that God is a football fan?
I mean a big fan. I mean, you don't talk
to God on Sundays. He doesn't want to hear it.
He's watching football and who And how do you know
which team God likes? Because some team wins and then
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the other hand, it's that it loses next week.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
God is very fickle. Okay, I'm done. Did I digress
on that one? Never? Did I move in a different directions? Negress?
You only gress? Uh? Yeah, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Hey, for those of you who are dog lovers, and
most people are, as much as I hate to admit it,
I am a dog lover. When my little one, Gucci
became the second course for a coyote a few weeks ago,
I was pretty devastated. And when we put her down
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and then Vet comes to the house, which is I
suggest the way you do it to put down dogs
and or spouses, you know, when they're very sick and
there's not much chance.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I was crying like a baby. I mean it was.
I don't and I'm ah, I don't cry very often,
as you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So people animal rights people are pretty fanatic in what
they do, and I think they're right.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But here and let me tell you what's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
There is something called blood suppliers with animals. Hundreds of
dogs and cats live in closed colonies as full time
blood suppliers. They donate blood and plasma, except they can't
make that choice.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
So there are groups and there are.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Companies that keep these dogs and cats simply to donate blood, plasma,
other products, and the animal rights people have gone nuts.
California has gone nuts. In twenty twenty one, these closed
colonies were declared inhumane because the animals are held at
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captive Okay, what's the alternative, Well, I guess open, I
guess animals who volunteer. You know that these closed colonies
produce ninety seven percent of canine blood products, whole blood,
red blood cells, fresh frozen plasma, and it's sold in
the state. Now, the argument is that, okay, they're in humane.
(19:07):
I mean, depending on the one are they running around
you'd hope. But if you have a dog or a
cat that needs a transfusion, and by the way, they
need transfusions the way people need transfusions, you don't have
that those supplies. Your dog dies. It's that simple and
(19:27):
So here is the animal rights people arguing that they
shouldn't there should not be these closed qualities. But if
you close the closed qualities, which California law, by the way,
has said have to happen because they're in humane, then
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the dogs that need transfusions, need plasma, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Are gonna die.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So which one do you want exactly?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There's only three of these in the state of California,
by the way, and there were none in the mid seventies.
And there is a woman her twelve year old beagle
mixed Jake, diagnosed with splein of cancer, needed surgery.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The vet said, great news.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
However, the dogs started hemorrhaging and died, needed a transfusion
to survive.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
No blood, and she said, wait a minute, there's got
to be a better system.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And so she created the first with a vet, the
first closed colony where dogs every couple of weeks donate,
if you want to call it, donate blood. And it's
become one of the largest commercial blood banks in the country.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Now three closed colonies.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Northern, southern, and Central California's inspected every year by the
California Department of Food and Agriculture, the colonies.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
These three.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Now, I have about six hundred and fifty donor dogs,
five hundred and thirty donor cats, and they do pretty well.
But it's the animal rights concept. How inhumane is that? Well?
You compare if your dog ever needs a transfusion and
there's no blood, you know, where are you gonna go?
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He's still gonna If you're if you're against closed colonies,
now talk to me after your.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Pet dies because there was no blood. Those are your choices.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Sometimes what's good is not particularly good, or you choose
a lesser of two evils, or what's wrong is right,
and what's right is wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Or what's up is down? Uh? And what's sitting pretty deep?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, what's a circle is actually a square? Do we
keep on going with that?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Probably not? I think it sounds great. There you go.
There there's analysis for you. Kf I am sixty. You've
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Tuesday morning,
December eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yesterday, well, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Was the three hundred and twenty third school shooting in
the US this year, which is the second highest number
since nineteen sixty six, which as far back as.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The data goes. YEP.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This was in Madison, Wisconsin, and it was a student, fifteen.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Year old girl, which is unusual.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I killed a teacher and a student and wounded maybe
a dozen more or six more.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I don't know what the numbers are. And that got.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Me immediately thinking about what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm not going to advocate gun control. I stopped doing
that years ago. That ship has sailed. But it did
get me thinking about, you know, who we are and
how the rest, certainly the industrial world, looks at at
America and basically they think we're nuts.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's that simple when it comes to guns.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
And I'll tell you why, because whenever you hear, even
among gun advocates thoughts and prayers, I believe that they do.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Engage in thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I believe gun advocates, even the most fanatic gun advocates
do feel terrible about what happened yesterday and what happens
during the course of a year where hundreds.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Of school shootings occur. I do believe that. On the
other hand, I'll also tell you what I believe.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I believe that they believe that the Second Amendment is
more powerful than anything else in this country, more powerful
than the First Amendment, more powerful than the Fifth Amendment.
And I think that they believe, as I believe, in
(02:06):
many cases, it's simply the course of doing business in
the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That's just the cost.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And if another shooting happened today and a dozen kids
were killed, they would feel bad and still not want
any controls at all.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
If a thousand.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Kids were killed today, its thoughts and prayers, and so
no one's pushing for gun control anymore, certainly not people
who aren't out there, but common sense gun controls what
they're talking about. California has, I think, is number fifth
(02:46):
in gun deaths in the country, and it has the
strictest gun control. Of course, the number of school shootings
and deaths by guns or in those states that are
completely pro guns, mainly in the South and Wyoming South
to Code of that sort of thing where guns are
simply part of who you are and.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Those that are where the deaths occur. But again.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It is just a philosophy, that's it. The way we
think is simply the cost of doing business. When we
had the draft, it was the cost of doing business
in this country. The electoral college, which makes no sense
at all, is here to stay, and it's just the
cost of doing business that we don't have a direct
(03:30):
election of a president and vice president.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
We do across the board.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It used to be that senators weren't elected by a
general vote. It was legislatures that elected senators and.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That all went away.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So now the only vote that's left that is not
a general vote the majority of the voters is the
electoral college.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And as crazy as it is.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's the cost of doing business in this country. So
when uh waiting ten days in California, well tons of
people are against that universal background check. That is a
violation of the Second Amendment. Mental health reporting. This is
(04:13):
my favorite one, and that is the argument among gun
addicts that say the problem is not the ownership of guns,
but those who are mentally ill, and we have to
do a better job of dealing with those people and
keeping guns from them. Now, keep in mind, anybody can
(04:34):
walk into a gun store wait in California, even wait
ten days over twenty one, and you got a gun
if you're not a felon. Well, one in four Americans
have diagnosable mental disorders.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
One in four. That's seventy five million people.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And we have to look at all of those people
to see if they are a risk. Seventy five million,
or let's go down to half of that, let's go
down to a tenth of that. That's still seven point
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five million people who are mentally ill.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And that's our problem. It's age restrictions.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Boy, that you can't deal with that because that's a
violation of Second Amendment rights.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And you know, you know gun control is gone, but
is sensible gun control. And it's a slippery So I
understand where they're coming from. You pass anything, and that's
the start of the government taking guns away. Any restriction
is the next step is the government coming in taking
your guns away in violation of the Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Man, that is a slope that's pretty pretty steep. So anyway,
that's what I.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Was thinking about over the course since yesterday with the
gun shooting in Madison at that Christian school. It's you know,
it's a tough one. Hopefully we don't have another one
because we only have what fifteen days till the end
of the year, not even twelve days to the end
(06:21):
of the year. Hopefully there won't be number three hundred
and twenty four.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
All right now.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Gavin Newsom unveiled another blueprint to create well paid careers
for Californians, especially people who don't have college degrees. More
people are questioning the value of higher education.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
As I do. It is expensive stuff. Now.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Long term, if you have a college degree, you make
more money, not short term. Let me tell you get
a high paying job and instead of sitting four years
of college only two hundred fifty thousand dollars, you start
working now for eighty thousand dollars. Maybe at the end
of it all you're making more money with a college degree,
(07:08):
but it's kind of neat having some money now relative
to going to school. Do you remember how poor you
were when you were in college. If you're making eighty
thousand or one hundred thousand dollars a year in a
highly skilled job, you're not that poor. So Newsom wants
to streamline, coordinate state and regional efforts to prepare students
(07:30):
and workers for high demand jobs that pay good money,
hands on learning, job related skills, wider access to affordable education.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
My son in law, Brandon is learning to be a welder.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Because you know what, you can go to school or
you can be a welder or among other jobs, highly
skilled that takes a while.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You don't need a college degree, but it pays really
good money.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And coming out of college, how easy it is to
get a job, especially when you have some.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Kind of a liberal arts degree. And what kind of
degree do you have?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
What?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
What was your degree in? I have a BA and
bad ass?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, great, they don't give you even though it is
bad ass?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
What is the actual BA? And I just did a
two year okay and I got hired in area. Okay,
all right, Amy, you have a four year, don't you? Yes?
And what I have a BS in speech communications?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh okay, that's that's almost like a BU, like a basic.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I always thought it was funny that they called it
a BS.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I know it's true basic useless, that's true. And Neil,
I know, doesn't have a college degree, but Neil is
highly skilled.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
No, you are, no, Neil, you are. No, You're a
highly skilled guy. You are, and college would.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Have gotten in the way for you. You would be
behind by four years where you are now.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I always joke that the only thing that has degrees
in my home is my thermometer and my wife.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah right, she does have her masters. And I have
to know a little bit of how much money you
guys make. Uh and you you, Neil does very very well.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
We do fine. Yeah without a college degree.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
We both have small businesses.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
In addition, no matter.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Now, I'm just saying I don't want to compare because
i'm you know, Tracy is highly highly skilled.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Uh so I won't go.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Into Oh well, no, Tracy has her own practice and
she has decided to uh step back to raise Max.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah different, pregnant in the kitchen, right, although you're in
the kitchen and then uh.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, barefoot and looking pregnant.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Cono college degree, I have a master's that did it
help you get this job? Caps?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, No, it helped me get here.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, Oh, because you've got the guy with a regular
degree who also is probably not going to get the
job because you did.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Okay, let me.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Put it this way, does your degree have anything to
do with what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Loosely, yeah, I'm in communications.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
The answer is no, that's what I meant. He do
not correct me. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Now, there are certain things you need an undergrad undergrad
degree for granted, if you're going to medical school you
have to have an undergrad degree. If you're going to
law school, you have to have an undergrad degree. But
short of those profession architecture. To be a licensed architecture
you have to have an undergree. But short of that, man,
(11:02):
today I would tell by kids to say, hey, don't
do it. My daughter Pamela is doing it and she'll
be doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
For the rest of her life. My daughter Barbara doesn't
have a degree.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
That's why, based on me pushing them, they both dropped
out of junior high school and they're going to.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Be just great. The point is is the college degree
means less and less.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Now if you have a liberal arts degree like I did,
I got a Bachelor of Arts and Political Science, about
as useless as you can get short of a bachelor
degree in communication or broadcast journalism or whatever the hell,
Completely useless. It was only good for working as an
assistant manager at McDonald's. They like people with undergrad degrees. Actually,
(11:57):
they're like people who are bilingual. To be true, fully bilingual,
and you see those all the time. Is actually a
better skill than having an undergrad degree, especially today, especially
in southern California. So the word is out there, and
that is I tell people, no, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Don't do it. You take a.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Certificate program, you finish it up in maybe a year,
you do some interning, and you're walking into a job
that pays eighty thousand, one hundred thousand dollars a year.
I don't know how many second year undergrads make one
hundred grand a year.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Working part time?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You bet you all right now, quickly moving to a
story about CEOs. One of the things about the president
president elects soon to be present is people, not only
legislators Republicans ones are falling in line and doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Senators are saying.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's not our job to vet, it's only our job
to vote in whoever President Trump wants. Yeah, the idea
of a separate Congress or separate Senate doesn't exist. Okay,
that's I mean, it's astounding the kind of power that
this man has been able to garner it is and
this is outside of policy, this is outside of what
(13:31):
I think about him. It's simply an astounding fact that
he is that powerful, and the historians will be looking
at that forever. The CEOs of companies are lining up
to bend the knee. Mark Zuckerberg of Meta, who hated
him and Trump hated Zuckerberg lining up, Amazon founder Jeff
(13:58):
Bezos lining up, Sam Alton of open Ai lining up,
and other CEOs who.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Trump just likes.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I mean, there was no issue for them to line
up because they were always there because of the conservative
philosophy of being pro business.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And I mean in a major way.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
This will be one of the most pro business presidents
we have ever had. And the CEOs are thrilled, beyond thrills.
A matter of fact, survey was just taken and they're
looking at twenty twenty five as a year in which
America is going.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
To do great.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Matter of fact, they're arguing more opportunity, more money to
be made, more jobs will be created, more profit than
this year, last year, where there's some great years, and
that's because of regulations being torn apart. You know, regulations
(15:01):
as to for example, environmental regulations, taxing regulations gone or
will be reduced dramatically, Taxes on corporations will be lowered dramatically.
You've got a pro business environment coming up, and the
liberal agenda is going to be stuck just where it is,
(15:22):
or it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
It's going to lose influence. It's just that simple. We're in.
It's like the court. It's like the court. Okay, there
was a liberal court for thirty years, forty years. Roe v.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Wade was a liberal decision. Oh boy was it a
liberal decision. Which, by the way, if you look at
it just legally, it has no basis in the law.
The argument against Roe is stronger legally than the argument
in favor of Roe, and Roe disappeared because of this president.
(15:57):
And so you're going to see a very conservative court upholding,
for example, religious rights more so than the separation of
church and state.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You're gonna see prayer in school. You're going to see.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
In the NFL before every play you will see the
quarterback bend down and make a prayer and cross himself,
which you see all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I love that. I love the fact that both teams.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Pray for God to interfere if we win, it'll be
God's choice. Did you know that God is a football fan?
I mean a big fan. I mean, you don't talk
to God on Sundays. He doesn't want to hear it.
He's watching football and who And how do you know
which team God likes? Because some team wins and then
(16:52):
the other hand, it's that it loses next week.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
God is very fickle. Okay, I'm done. Did I digress
on that one? Never? Did I move in a different directions? Negress?
You only gress? Uh? Yeah, all right, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Hey, for those of you who are dog lovers, and
most people are, as much as I hate to admit it,
I am a dog lover. When my little one, Gucci
became the second course for a coyote a few weeks ago,
I was pretty devastated. And when we put her down
(17:35):
and then Vet comes to the house, which is I
suggest the way you do it to put down dogs
and or spouses, you know, when they're very sick and
there's not much chance.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I was crying like a baby. I mean it was.
I don't and I'm ah, I don't cry very often,
as you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So people animal rights people are pretty fanatic in what
they do, and I think they're right.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But here and let me tell you what's going on.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
There is something called blood suppliers with animals. Hundreds of
dogs and cats live in closed colonies as full time
blood suppliers. They donate blood and plasma, except they can't
make that choice.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
So there are groups and there are.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Companies that keep these dogs and cats simply to donate blood, plasma,
other products, and the animal rights people have gone nuts.
California has gone nuts. In twenty twenty one, these closed
colonies were declared inhumane because the animals are held at
(18:43):
captive Okay, what's the alternative, Well, I guess open, I
guess animals who volunteer. You know that these closed colonies
produce ninety seven percent of canine blood products, whole blood,
red blood cells, fresh frozen plasma, and it's sold in
the state. Now, the argument is that, okay, they're in humane.
(19:07):
I mean, depending on the one are they running around
you'd hope. But if you have a dog or a
cat that needs a transfusion, and by the way, they
need transfusions the way people need transfusions, you don't have
that those supplies. Your dog dies. It's that simple and
(19:27):
So here is the animal rights people arguing that they
shouldn't there should not be these closed qualities. But if
you close the closed qualities, which California law, by the way,
has said have to happen because they're in humane, then
(19:48):
the dogs that need transfusions, need plasma, excuse me.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Are gonna die.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So which one do you want exactly?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
That's the point.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There's only three of these in the state of California,
by the way, and there were none in the mid seventies.
And there is a woman her twelve year old beagle
mixed Jake, diagnosed with splein of cancer, needed surgery.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The vet said, great news.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
However, the dogs started hemorrhaging and died, needed a transfusion
to survive.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
No blood, and she said, wait a minute, there's got
to be a better system.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
And so she created the first with a vet, the
first closed colony where dogs every couple of weeks donate,
if you want to call it, donate blood. And it's
become one of the largest commercial blood banks in the country.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Now three closed colonies.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Northern, southern, and Central California's inspected every year by the
California Department of Food and Agriculture, the colonies.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
These three.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Now, I have about six hundred and fifty donor dogs,
five hundred and thirty donor cats, and they do pretty well.
But it's the animal rights concept. How inhumane is that? Well?
You compare if your dog ever needs a transfusion and
there's no blood, you know, where are you gonna go?
(21:24):
He's still gonna If you're if you're against closed colonies,
now talk to me after your.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Pet dies because there was no blood. Those are your choices.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Sometimes what's good is not particularly good, or you choose
a lesser of two evils, or what's wrong is right,
and what's right is wrong?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Or what's up is down? Uh? And what's sitting pretty deep?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, what's a circle is actually a square? Do we
keep on going with that?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Probably not? I think it sounds great. There you go.
There there's analysis for you. Kf I am sixty. You've
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Speaker 2 (22:06):
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