October 25, 2024 • 27 mins
ABC News crime and terrorism analyst Brad Garrett joins the show to talk about the Los Angeles DA recommending resentencing of the Menendez brothers. LA City rolls out massive coordinated preparation and engagements ahead of World Series and major events across city. Breaking down California props ahead of 2024 election.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty Bill Handle Here.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is a Friday morning, October twenty five, just a
few days for the election up on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Boy, are we gonna be busy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We're not gonna know on Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday
who won the election.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's that close.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And there's all kinds of issues as to voting recounts,
et cetera that are going to happen. Okay, yesterday, George Gascone,
the DA, who is not going to be the DA
very long, the La County DA has said and he
is going to ask that Eric and Lyle Menendez be
re sentenced. They were convicted after a second trial of
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first degree murder and given l WOP life imprisonment without parole,
and that changes if they're re sentenced, and it looks
like they will get out if the resentencing takes place.
Local story also a national story. It was covered here
did we cover it? And I will probably dive into
that next week. In the meantime, the national side of it,
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because it's being looked at big time. Brad Garrett, ABC
News crime and terrorism analysts out of Washington, who's been
a guest before and gives us great information. Brad, Good morning,
morning Bill. Okay, so let's take it on your side.
How is it being perceived. What's your analysis?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So you know, I get mixed reviews from people that think,
you know, it's reasonable. The child abuse aspect that was,
as you well know, introduced in the first trial wasn't
introduced in the second trial. I think, admit it a
lot easier to convict them because it is a very
heinous crime.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So you know, some.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
People say they should say in prison and never get out,
and others say, you know, this is long enough. The
circumstances of the child abuse should have been more upfront
in the second trial and they should get out. So,
you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
In terms of the justice system itself.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And this is across the country, I know, it's state
by state, county by county.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
During the second trial.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The judge, who was not happy with the mistrial, basically
agreed with the premise that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Men could not be raped, and the Menendez.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Brothers argue that their father raped Eric constantly over the
course of years. And the thinking now is, you know what,
we should have brought that back in. What's your take
across the country, because I think in California that's going
to fly.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So I think by and large people believe that clearly
males boys can be sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, if you.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Look at the first jury when they hung, apparently according
to jurors, it was a split. The guys believed they
should get first agreed murdered, the women thought that should
get no more than manslaughter. And it's because of this
very issue. Do I think people are more aware because
of education, because of it's more talked about publicly and
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the answer, generally speaking is yes. And so as a
result the you know, the people people today, I think
certainly boys can be sexually assaulted, which would have changed
the tenor and tone clearly of the second trial if
in fact it had been introduced, and it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Was the first time around, and as you said, the
jury deadlocks and the second time wasn't even.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Brought to the table.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The other thing is, first time around, manslaughter was allowed
as one of the decisions. Second time, no, it's either
you acquit him or its first degree murder.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That was a huge.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Problem, certainly, and I think the then district attorney obviously
wanted to make a statement that this is either going
to be all or nothing. They're either going to get
life without parole or they're going to walk or obviously
they could have hung again. But you know, it's pretty
clear that's what he wanted and that's what he got.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, and it's I look at it and now I'm
looking at it and thinking it's very unfair. I mean,
there were politics involved too. This came months after the
oj acquittal. The DA was embarrassed at that time couldn't
get a conviction and so hey, we've got Lyle, We've
got Eric and Lyle Menendez, and we're going to go
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balls to the wall on this, and they got it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Bottom line, My take is today they would be.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Convicted of manslaughter and have been out of prison years ago.
Your belief, I don't know if you can have a
belief because you're a news guy, but.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What's your take on it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I would agree with that, and maybe if you can
charge it in California, maybe second degree murder, but not
first Yes, it was premitt hated Jef.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It was heinous.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But you know, if you go to the other side
of the table and you look through the eyes of
someone who's been victimized by their father year after year,
both of them that the revenge factor, you just cannot
the revenge factor, but also feeling hopeless and that's why
sometimes they take desperate acts. This one obviously was big
time of violence with two shotguns. But that's what happened there,
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and then they sort of fell apart. Obviously they went
on that spending spree. Yeah, they got arrested.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, tell me how much that hurts because there was
a insurance policy bought just before that and they went
berserk in spending with rolexes and cars, and that had
to have nailed them.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
If I'm on the jury, I'm going to go, come on, guys,
this is a real.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Problem, right, And it's such an obvious I mean, they
seem to both be bright guys. That is so obvious.
If you go do something like that, you're going to
get So does it almost tell you on some levels,
Bill that they wanted to get caught, And obviously they
gave it up quickly after they did get caught, So
you know, it sort of plays into the whole sexual
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victimization thing that happens with sadly so many people.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Also, the Netflix documentary and IFEW docu dramas have really
brought this to the forefront, Brad, Thank you always appreciated. Okay,
take care all right, next week or two, I'm going
to really dive into this because this is actually going
to take a few months because not only is the
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DA now recommending resentencing, it now has to go to
the judge, it has to go to the parole board.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And Gavin Newsom can undo all of that and.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Imagine the political pressure with the people that are hard
on crime.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So there's a lot going on there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Let's move on what's happening today. And we talked about this,
Amy talked about it. All the things that are going on.
First of all, Game one of the World Series, the
Lakers second home game at Crypto, a game at Memorial Coliseum,
USC football taking on Rutgers, the East LA Classic between
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Garfield and Roosevelt High School. That's it so far. I mean,
on and on. So it's going to be karmageddon. So
LA is rolling out the all of the parameters and
all of the programs to deal with traffic in anticipation
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of the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I'm looking at this and I'm going WHOA.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
LA Department of Transportation la DOT will deploy more than
one hundred white Glove traffic officers.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
White white Glove, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Go figure improve traffic flow at intersections. LA DOT Special
Traffic Operations STO has traffic management plans and we'll deploy
twenty eight traffic engineers.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
To establish specialized routes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
The folks at at sac ATSAC the Automated Transportation System
and Coordination Center that'll be open and monitoring congestion at
key intersections. Then you have the Mayor's Office of Finance,
Operations and Innovations. They're coordinating with the app based companies
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to coordinate alternate routes and provide alerts about all the
major events.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
LA Metro running extra service.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
On the A, B, D and E lines that's tonight
and tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Then you have Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The Dodger Stadium Express starts three hours ahead of the opening.
Pitch has added buses for tonight and tomorrow night and
it runs from Union Station at least every five to
seven minutes. Public safety personnel and transit ambassadors will have
an increased presence. And then there's a pitch for LA's
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cultural landmarks and supporting the tourism industry.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Why, well, it's really important that people.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Have something to do while they're waiting for the buses,
because there's going to be congestion like crazy, and you
can only put so many buses, have so many plans
in place when you have all of these venues spilling
out and needing transportation like we're going to have at
the Olympics more fold than tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Remember this is just a practice run.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What the City Tourism Department is doing is pushing the
fact that you can find find fun places and cultural
landmarks to visit for free. That's cataloged by the City
Tourism Department, and they are working to provide information about restaurants, itineraries,
guides for visitors. LAX is preparing to receive busier than
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usual traffic beginning actually began last night. More LAPD, more
protecting of businesses and communities. Because the LAPD is taking
proactive strategic action and it goes on and on. You've
got the LA Fire Department, paramedic medical support at various.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Venues, I mean, just keeps ongoing and going.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And why do they want to have all kinds of
things for people to do and vendors and pop up
restaurants and beggars on the street. I know they call
them entertainment folks, you know that. You know, the little
bands and folks with their guitars singing on the sidewalks.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Those are actually beggars who are kidding you know.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
They have their cases out on the street and you're
supposed to throw in coins.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I always take money out.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I like to do that with blind beggars, you know that,
because they can hear the coins going in, well, thank
you very much, and.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They can't hear the paper money going out. That works.
So it goes on and on, and we'll see if
any of that works. We'll see some of it has
to there's no question about that. Is it enough?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Because the Olympics is going to be crazy also, And
I want to finish with this. One of the reasons
that the the amount of transportation is going to be
limited coming out from the Olympic venues is.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Because of security. Security, personnel.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Security concerns are going to limit the amount of transportation
that will go into venues or go near venues. Put
all of that together, I'm gonna say, yes, you do
what I did nineteen eighty four for the eighty four Olympics.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Get the hell out of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And then I actually went to Australia because I had
some business in the surrogacy world. And so I was
meeting with some doctors and some suppliers of equipment, and
I was looking at the Olympics on television. The place
was a ghost town. You could have driven anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
In the city.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Everybody was so frightened of traffic that no one showed up.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So we'll see what happens tonight and tomorrow night. And
it's going.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Crazy, say the least. All right, come Tuesday, we have
an election. A couple things are that really doesn't matter.
The presidential in California doesn't matter. Of course, Kamala Harris
is going to get it guaranteed in the Senate. Steve
Garvey as against Adam Schiff. Shiff is going to win
the Senate.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So the only thing that really matters are the propositions.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And a couple of things about propositions, and that is
there for the most part. Money And there are two
ways in which the state borrows money or taxes you
in terms of new programs.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Number one straight out tax.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, we're going to add a half a cent to
your sales tax, or increase gasoline tax or move your
income tax.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Up a little bit, which California is really wonderful about doing.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The other way is to borrow money general obligation bonds,
which are like a long term loan, which is like
a mortgage, and let me go through.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Those are the two ways of doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The other rule, by the way that the law was
amended to do this is you, first of all, you
look at the title, and you know the title of
the proper position makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Usually it's the reverse.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And you look at who is backing the that proposition
that tells you everything.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So let me go through a few of them.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Prop two ten billion dollars in general obligation bonds. State
is borrowing the money thirty five years, by the way,
to repay it, repair, upgrade construction of facilities at K
through twelve public schools because the schools are falling apart. Okay, well,
the schools desperately need help, and I am desperately going
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to vote no because clearly the state cannot function within
its budget. It just can't. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter how
much it makes, doesn't matter what the tax revenues are.
It has to keep on borrowing money to do anything.
So I'm voting no on that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Prop Three. This one is fine. The constitutional right to marriage.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
This basically anybody can marry anybody they want in the
constitution right now gay marriage is allowed. But it basically
says it changes the constitution to say any kind of marriage,
regardless of sex or race, you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Can get married.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And you look at those against because the argument against
it's a slippery slope. You allow this to happen, you'll
be able to marry your sister, and you'll be able
to marry lots of people. Yeah, right, And the laws
should actually should be amended to say you can only
have sex with one kangaroo at a time, because that
there should be limits.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
There.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Prop for another bond, Okay, this authorizes ten billion dollars.
Not necessarily the state is going to borrow, but it
can borrow. And this has to be for water, wildfire prevention,
and protection of community and lands.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And again the state is not.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Able to pay for any of this in the general budget,
and therefore it has to borrow money to do with
the state has to do. Now, this one I may
vote yes for because wildfires are not within the purview
of everybody thinking they explode to where they are.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This is not something the legislature.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Can anticipate, and the damage is so much greater.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We have to do so much more.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm probably going to vote yes on that one ten
billion dollars in general obligation bonds.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And by the way, the.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Rules as always, I'm just telling you the way I
am voting. And we have to put this up on
the website too, my voter's guide, not as the voter's guide,
just the way I'm voting, because if you use this,
and I've said this over and over again, if you
use this guide as a primer or as a template
for your vote, you are fired as a KFI listener.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You will not be able to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm merely telling you it is my vote, and my
vote cannot be used to diagnose, treat, or cure any
political disease.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
There's the disclaimer.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, So that's Prop four Prop five again, local bonds
will be allowed to be bought or sold again borrow
money in the long term, and this has to do
with affordable housing and public infrastructure. And here's the change here.
It doesn't say more money. What it does is allow
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local communities to borrow money with a fifty five percent
vote as opposed to a two thirds percent vote. It's
a little bit wonky, but it just allows local communities
to issue their own bonds, which by the way, happens
all the time because not only are their state bonds,
there are city bonds, there are county bonds. I mean,
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we borrow like crazy to pay for everything now and
it's going to be our kids.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Usually these are thirty year bonds, which means just at
a mortgage, just like your home.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know, you borrow money to remodel your house, so
you refi your house. Okay, you have a house that's
worth five hundred thousand dollars, so you borrow a hundred
thousand dollars to remodel your house. Then you decide you're
going to put in a swimming pool, so you borrow
another one hundred thousand dollars to pay over thirty years.
Then you want to redo your landscaping, you borrow another
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hundred thousand dollars, and you keep on going and going
to the point where you're borrowing far more money than
the house is worth, or you're borrowing far more money
than you make. Now, no bank is going to allow
you to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But this is the state.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
This is your community, and no one stops it if
the voters say yes. So there, I don't care if
you want to borrow, well, I don't know which way
I'm going to go on that. What it does is
it shifts local spending away from the state government.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It allows locals to easier for local.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Governments to borrow money because anything that we're borrowing, hey,
it's okay with me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
This is California. We have never met a tax or.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
A bond we don't like. This is Will Rogers. I
never met a man I didn't like. On his tombstone
on California, on your grave, I never met a tax
or a bond I didn't like. Coming up Tuesday, it's
a big day. It is election day, and it is
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one of the more important elections that we've had in
a very long time, because it really has to do
on a presidential level, which way this country is going
to go. Now on a local level, and I'm talking
about California, we have basically the propositions to vote for.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That really is it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
As far as the Senate race, Adam Shift versus Steve
Garb it's not even going to be close.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I mean, that's a given, but.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The proposition is very different. Two ways propositions can be
put on the ballot. One the legislature can put a
proposition on the ballot, and the other way is the
petition way of doing it. And you know, if you
want to put a ballot on, I think you need
five hundred and sixty something signature to put it on.
Not easy to do. So I'm going to go through
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a few of them. I'm not going to go through
all of them. I've already done this previous segment. I
went through a few and you can listen to it
on demand if you want.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Just go to.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
The iHeartRadio app. And the keyword is whatever the hell?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The keyword is way. I know this stuff cold, don't I?
All right? We've got one? Where is it? Oh? You
know what?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
This is anti Prop forty seven. This is Prop thirty six.
And because of the pushback on crime. Remember Prop forty seven,
we reduced the amount of money. Will actually increased amount
of money to make it a felony. For example, theft
nine hundred and fifty dollars and people were stealing nine
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hundred and twenty dollars worth of goods and it was
a revolving door, just no one was convicted, no one
was tried.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, going the other.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Way now it is easier to convict people and toss
them into the slammer. And of course those that are
against it saying this will cause more crime and it's
gonna cost a lot more money, which it will because
more people are going to be incarcerated. So yeah, you
can go one way or the other on this one,
all right. So that's Prop thirty six and the nine
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hundred and fifty dollars. It if you go over nine
fifty and defendant has two prior drugs or theft conditions
felony felony and they're going to put you in prison
or a period of time. There is what's my favorite one?
This has to do?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Where is it here?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We have minimum wage that one Prop thirty two, and
what it does is increase minimum wage across the country
to seventeen million dollars seventeen million, seventeen dollars per hour
immediately for employers with twenty six or more employees eighteen
dollars on January first, twenty twenty five. And there's a
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whole formula here, but the bottom line is minimum wage
is going to go up dramatically. I happen to be
a big fan of minimum wage. I have a real
problem with a law that allows people to get paid
and cannot feed themselves for a forty hour week.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That is a tough one for me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
If you are working forty hours, if you are working
a minimum of where if you're working a full week
and the law allows you to get screwed that badly,
you know what that should be changed, And this does
change it. So I am totally in favor of that.
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You've got, Oh there's one. Which one is this as
I'm looking at this, and this has to do with
involuntary servitude. It's an anti slavery statute. If you can
imagine that, that's Prop six. Now, who is in favor
of slavery? I mean, how is it that here in
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twenty twenty four we still have slavery. Well, let me explain,
and that is in prison there are work programs, and
most prisoners want to line up to do that because
otherwise you're in a cell and your bored silly, So
you are working and you get paid virtually nothing. Okay,
prisons are in California are allowed to force you to
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work outside of prison.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
They call that slavery.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You can't be forced to work, that's involuntary servitude.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, the law now allows that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
At this point, the law allows a prison system to
say you've got to work, and this says, no, you don't,
because effectively it's an anti slavery system.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Plenty of people.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Are in favor of this law, which eliminates constitutional provision
allowing involuntary servitude for prisoners. And this is a constitutional amendment.
This is different than just a law. This changes the
constitution of California. And how many people are against this Nobody.
That's the other thing I want to point out about California.
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Those are just some of them. We're going to put
all of them up on the up on the website.
You can see how I am going to vote. Agree
hopefully you disagree. But if if you look at the
California Constitution, look at the our federal constitution, Constitution of
the United States. It's the basis the constitution, and we
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have twenty something amendments and that's it. There's our constitution,
and it's impossible to amend the constitution.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It can be done, it is done.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But it's happened very rarely in the history of this country, which, incidentally,
which incidentally, the first ten were at the beginning of
the US history. If you look at the California Constitution,
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it's over five hundred pages. There are constitutional amendments and
laws that contradict previous ones, that spin off in ways
that no one ever, no one understands it, no one
has any idea what the entire constitution is.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Welcome to California.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So anyway, looking forward to voting this year, voting by
mail tonight, I'm voting, Neil, you voted, obviously, or you will?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You better, Yes, I will vote.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I have not yet, okay, Amy, Yes you've already voted,
or you will, I will, you will?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You to walk into a booth probably, Yeah, I used to.
I used to love going into booths.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I love the idea. It's with everything going on, it's
the time right now. Yeah, I just I've always enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And voting, of course, Yeah, going in, you're going in
the day of the election.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
We're close and yeah, okay, the process.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
All right, so do I And you get that little
tiny eye voted sticker.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Kno, this is America.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You vote, I vote, and when you've already voted, or
you will on Tuesday, we'll vote, okay, And people who
don't vote, by the way, you have no business talking
about laws, have no business talking about how this country
is run. It is the greatest franchise that you have
as a citizen, and that is to vote. It's something
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that is sacrisanct in this country.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And please, you gotta vote.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Just don't vote the way I vote because that becomes problematic.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It is a Friday morning, October twenty five, just a
few days for the election up on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Boy, are we gonna be busy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We're not gonna know on Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday
who won the election.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It's that close.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And there's all kinds of issues as to voting recounts,
et cetera that are going to happen. Okay, yesterday, George Gascone,
the DA, who is not going to be the DA
very long, the La County DA has said and he
is going to ask that Eric and Lyle Menendez be
re sentenced. They were convicted after a second trial of
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first degree murder and given l WOP life imprisonment without parole,
and that changes if they're re sentenced, and it looks
like they will get out if the resentencing takes place.
Local story also a national story. It was covered here
did we cover it? And I will probably dive into
that next week. In the meantime, the national side of it,
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because it's being looked at big time. Brad Garrett, ABC
News crime and terrorism analysts out of Washington, who's been
a guest before and gives us great information. Brad, Good morning,
morning Bill. Okay, so let's take it on your side.
How is it being perceived. What's your analysis?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So you know, I get mixed reviews from people that think,
you know, it's reasonable. The child abuse aspect that was,
as you well know, introduced in the first trial wasn't
introduced in the second trial. I think, admit it a
lot easier to convict them because it is a very
heinous crime.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So you know, some.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
People say they should say in prison and never get out,
and others say, you know, this is long enough. The
circumstances of the child abuse should have been more upfront
in the second trial and they should get out. So,
you know, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
In terms of the justice system itself.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And this is across the country, I know, it's state
by state, county by county.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
During the second trial.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The judge, who was not happy with the mistrial, basically
agreed with the premise that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Men could not be raped, and the Menendez.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Brothers argue that their father raped Eric constantly over the
course of years. And the thinking now is, you know what,
we should have brought that back in. What's your take
across the country, because I think in California that's going
to fly.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So I think by and large people believe that clearly
males boys can be sexually assaulted.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, if you.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Look at the first jury when they hung, apparently according
to jurors, it was a split. The guys believed they
should get first agreed murdered, the women thought that should
get no more than manslaughter. And it's because of this
very issue. Do I think people are more aware because
of education, because of it's more talked about publicly and
(03:10):
the answer, generally speaking is yes. And so as a
result the you know, the people people today, I think
certainly boys can be sexually assaulted, which would have changed
the tenor and tone clearly of the second trial if
in fact it had been introduced, and it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Was the first time around, and as you said, the
jury deadlocks and the second time wasn't even.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Brought to the table.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The other thing is, first time around, manslaughter was allowed
as one of the decisions. Second time, no, it's either
you acquit him or its first degree murder.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That was a huge.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Problem, certainly, and I think the then district attorney obviously
wanted to make a statement that this is either going
to be all or nothing. They're either going to get
life without parole or they're going to walk or obviously
they could have hung again. But you know, it's pretty
clear that's what he wanted and that's what he got.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, and it's I look at it and now I'm
looking at it and thinking it's very unfair. I mean,
there were politics involved too. This came months after the
oj acquittal. The DA was embarrassed at that time couldn't
get a conviction and so hey, we've got Lyle, We've
got Eric and Lyle Menendez, and we're going to go
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balls to the wall on this, and they got it.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Bottom line, My take is today they would be.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Convicted of manslaughter and have been out of prison years ago.
Your belief, I don't know if you can have a
belief because you're a news guy, but.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
What's your take on it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I would agree with that, and maybe if you can
charge it in California, maybe second degree murder, but not
first Yes, it was premitt hated Jef.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It was heinous.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But you know, if you go to the other side
of the table and you look through the eyes of
someone who's been victimized by their father year after year,
both of them that the revenge factor, you just cannot
the revenge factor, but also feeling hopeless and that's why
sometimes they take desperate acts. This one obviously was big
time of violence with two shotguns. But that's what happened there,
(05:27):
and then they sort of fell apart. Obviously they went
on that spending spree. Yeah, they got arrested.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, tell me how much that hurts because there was
a insurance policy bought just before that and they went
berserk in spending with rolexes and cars, and that had
to have nailed them.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
If I'm on the jury, I'm going to go, come on, guys,
this is a real.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Problem, right, And it's such an obvious I mean, they
seem to both be bright guys. That is so obvious.
If you go do something like that, you're going to
get So does it almost tell you on some levels,
Bill that they wanted to get caught, And obviously they
gave it up quickly after they did get caught, So
you know, it sort of plays into the whole sexual
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victimization thing that happens with sadly so many people.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Also, the Netflix documentary and IFEW docu dramas have really
brought this to the forefront, Brad, Thank you always appreciated. Okay,
take care all right, next week or two, I'm going
to really dive into this because this is actually going
to take a few months because not only is the
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DA now recommending resentencing, it now has to go to
the judge, it has to go to the parole board.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And Gavin Newsom can undo all of that and.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Imagine the political pressure with the people that are hard
on crime.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So there's a lot going on there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Let's move on what's happening today. And we talked about this,
Amy talked about it. All the things that are going on.
First of all, Game one of the World Series, the
Lakers second home game at Crypto, a game at Memorial Coliseum,
USC football taking on Rutgers, the East LA Classic between
(07:16):
Garfield and Roosevelt High School. That's it so far. I mean,
on and on. So it's going to be karmageddon. So
LA is rolling out the all of the parameters and
all of the programs to deal with traffic in anticipation
(07:40):
of the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And I'm looking at this and I'm going WHOA.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
LA Department of Transportation la DOT will deploy more than
one hundred white Glove traffic officers.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
White white Glove, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Go figure improve traffic flow at intersections. LA DOT Special
Traffic Operations STO has traffic management plans and we'll deploy
twenty eight traffic engineers.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
To establish specialized routes.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
The folks at at sac ATSAC the Automated Transportation System
and Coordination Center that'll be open and monitoring congestion at
key intersections. Then you have the Mayor's Office of Finance,
Operations and Innovations. They're coordinating with the app based companies
(08:37):
to coordinate alternate routes and provide alerts about all the
major events.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
LA Metro running extra service.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
On the A, B, D and E lines that's tonight
and tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Then you have Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The Dodger Stadium Express starts three hours ahead of the opening.
Pitch has added buses for tonight and tomorrow night and
it runs from Union Station at least every five to
seven minutes. Public safety personnel and transit ambassadors will have
an increased presence. And then there's a pitch for LA's
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cultural landmarks and supporting the tourism industry.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Why, well, it's really important that people.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Have something to do while they're waiting for the buses,
because there's going to be congestion like crazy, and you
can only put so many buses, have so many plans
in place when you have all of these venues spilling
out and needing transportation like we're going to have at
the Olympics more fold than tonight.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Remember this is just a practice run.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What the City Tourism Department is doing is pushing the
fact that you can find find fun places and cultural
landmarks to visit for free. That's cataloged by the City
Tourism Department, and they are working to provide information about restaurants, itineraries,
guides for visitors. LAX is preparing to receive busier than
(10:20):
usual traffic beginning actually began last night. More LAPD, more
protecting of businesses and communities. Because the LAPD is taking
proactive strategic action and it goes on and on. You've
got the LA Fire Department, paramedic medical support at various.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Venues, I mean, just keeps ongoing and going.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And why do they want to have all kinds of
things for people to do and vendors and pop up
restaurants and beggars on the street. I know they call
them entertainment folks, you know that. You know, the little
bands and folks with their guitars singing on the sidewalks.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Those are actually beggars who are kidding you know.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
They have their cases out on the street and you're
supposed to throw in coins.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I always take money out.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I like to do that with blind beggars, you know that,
because they can hear the coins going in, well, thank
you very much, and.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They can't hear the paper money going out. That works.
So it goes on and on, and we'll see if
any of that works. We'll see some of it has
to there's no question about that. Is it enough?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Because the Olympics is going to be crazy also, And
I want to finish with this. One of the reasons
that the the amount of transportation is going to be
limited coming out from the Olympic venues is.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Because of security. Security, personnel.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Security concerns are going to limit the amount of transportation
that will go into venues or go near venues. Put
all of that together, I'm gonna say, yes, you do
what I did nineteen eighty four for the eighty four Olympics.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Get the hell out of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And then I actually went to Australia because I had
some business in the surrogacy world. And so I was
meeting with some doctors and some suppliers of equipment, and
I was looking at the Olympics on television. The place
was a ghost town. You could have driven anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
In the city.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Everybody was so frightened of traffic that no one showed up.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So we'll see what happens tonight and tomorrow night. And
it's going.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Crazy, say the least. All right, come Tuesday, we have
an election. A couple things are that really doesn't matter.
The presidential in California doesn't matter. Of course, Kamala Harris
is going to get it guaranteed in the Senate. Steve
Garvey as against Adam Schiff. Shiff is going to win
the Senate.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
So the only thing that really matters are the propositions.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And a couple of things about propositions, and that is
there for the most part. Money And there are two
ways in which the state borrows money or taxes you
in terms of new programs.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Number one straight out tax.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, we're going to add a half a cent to
your sales tax, or increase gasoline tax or move your
income tax.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Up a little bit, which California is really wonderful about doing.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The other way is to borrow money general obligation bonds,
which are like a long term loan, which is like
a mortgage, and let me go through.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Those are the two ways of doing it.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
The other rule, by the way that the law was
amended to do this is you, first of all, you
look at the title, and you know the title of
the proper position makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Usually it's the reverse.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And you look at who is backing the that proposition
that tells you everything.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So let me go through a few of them.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Prop two ten billion dollars in general obligation bonds. State
is borrowing the money thirty five years, by the way,
to repay it, repair, upgrade construction of facilities at K
through twelve public schools because the schools are falling apart. Okay, well,
the schools desperately need help, and I am desperately going
(14:33):
to vote no because clearly the state cannot function within
its budget. It just can't. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter how
much it makes, doesn't matter what the tax revenues are.
It has to keep on borrowing money to do anything.
So I'm voting no on that.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Prop Three. This one is fine. The constitutional right to marriage.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
This basically anybody can marry anybody they want in the
constitution right now gay marriage is allowed. But it basically
says it changes the constitution to say any kind of marriage,
regardless of sex or race, you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Can get married.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
And you look at those against because the argument against
it's a slippery slope. You allow this to happen, you'll
be able to marry your sister, and you'll be able
to marry lots of people. Yeah, right, And the laws
should actually should be amended to say you can only
have sex with one kangaroo at a time, because that
there should be limits.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
There.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Prop for another bond, Okay, this authorizes ten billion dollars.
Not necessarily the state is going to borrow, but it
can borrow. And this has to be for water, wildfire prevention,
and protection of community and lands.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
And again the state is not.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Able to pay for any of this in the general budget,
and therefore it has to borrow money to do with
the state has to do. Now, this one I may
vote yes for because wildfires are not within the purview
of everybody thinking they explode to where they are.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
This is not something the legislature.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Can anticipate, and the damage is so much greater.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
We have to do so much more.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I'm probably going to vote yes on that one ten
billion dollars in general obligation bonds.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And by the way, the.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Rules as always, I'm just telling you the way I
am voting. And we have to put this up on
the website too, my voter's guide, not as the voter's guide,
just the way I'm voting, because if you use this,
and I've said this over and over again, if you
use this guide as a primer or as a template
for your vote, you are fired as a KFI listener.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You will not be able to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
I'm merely telling you it is my vote, and my
vote cannot be used to diagnose, treat, or cure any
political disease.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
There's the disclaimer.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, So that's Prop four Prop five again, local bonds
will be allowed to be bought or sold again borrow
money in the long term, and this has to do
with affordable housing and public infrastructure. And here's the change here.
It doesn't say more money. What it does is allow
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local communities to borrow money with a fifty five percent
vote as opposed to a two thirds percent vote. It's
a little bit wonky, but it just allows local communities
to issue their own bonds, which by the way, happens
all the time because not only are their state bonds,
there are city bonds, there are county bonds. I mean,
(17:55):
we borrow like crazy to pay for everything now and
it's going to be our kids.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Usually these are thirty year bonds, which means just at
a mortgage, just like your home.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know, you borrow money to remodel your house, so
you refi your house. Okay, you have a house that's
worth five hundred thousand dollars, so you borrow a hundred
thousand dollars to remodel your house. Then you decide you're
going to put in a swimming pool, so you borrow
another one hundred thousand dollars to pay over thirty years.
Then you want to redo your landscaping, you borrow another
(18:29):
hundred thousand dollars, and you keep on going and going
to the point where you're borrowing far more money than
the house is worth, or you're borrowing far more money
than you make. Now, no bank is going to allow
you to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But this is the state.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
This is your community, and no one stops it if
the voters say yes. So there, I don't care if
you want to borrow, well, I don't know which way
I'm going to go on that. What it does is
it shifts local spending away from the state government.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It allows locals to easier for local.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Governments to borrow money because anything that we're borrowing, hey,
it's okay with me.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
This is California. We have never met a tax or.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
A bond we don't like. This is Will Rogers. I
never met a man I didn't like. On his tombstone
on California, on your grave, I never met a tax
or a bond I didn't like. Coming up Tuesday, it's
a big day. It is election day, and it is
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one of the more important elections that we've had in
a very long time, because it really has to do
on a presidential level, which way this country is going
to go. Now on a local level, and I'm talking
about California, we have basically the propositions to vote for.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That really is it.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
As far as the Senate race, Adam Shift versus Steve
Garb it's not even going to be close.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I mean, that's a given, but.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The proposition is very different. Two ways propositions can be
put on the ballot. One the legislature can put a
proposition on the ballot, and the other way is the
petition way of doing it. And you know, if you
want to put a ballot on, I think you need
five hundred and sixty something signature to put it on.
Not easy to do. So I'm going to go through
(20:23):
a few of them. I'm not going to go through
all of them. I've already done this previous segment. I
went through a few and you can listen to it
on demand if you want.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Just go to.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
The iHeartRadio app. And the keyword is whatever the hell?
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The keyword is way. I know this stuff cold, don't I?
All right? We've got one? Where is it? Oh? You
know what?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
This is anti Prop forty seven. This is Prop thirty six.
And because of the pushback on crime. Remember Prop forty seven,
we reduced the amount of money. Will actually increased amount
of money to make it a felony. For example, theft
nine hundred and fifty dollars and people were stealing nine
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hundred and twenty dollars worth of goods and it was
a revolving door, just no one was convicted, no one
was tried.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well, going the other.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Way now it is easier to convict people and toss
them into the slammer. And of course those that are
against it saying this will cause more crime and it's
gonna cost a lot more money, which it will because
more people are going to be incarcerated. So yeah, you
can go one way or the other on this one,
all right. So that's Prop thirty six and the nine
(21:46):
hundred and fifty dollars. It if you go over nine
fifty and defendant has two prior drugs or theft conditions
felony felony and they're going to put you in prison
or a period of time. There is what's my favorite one?
This has to do?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Where is it here?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We have minimum wage that one Prop thirty two, and
what it does is increase minimum wage across the country
to seventeen million dollars seventeen million, seventeen dollars per hour
immediately for employers with twenty six or more employees eighteen
dollars on January first, twenty twenty five. And there's a
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whole formula here, but the bottom line is minimum wage
is going to go up dramatically. I happen to be
a big fan of minimum wage. I have a real
problem with a law that allows people to get paid
and cannot feed themselves for a forty hour week.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That is a tough one for me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
If you are working forty hours, if you are working
a minimum of where if you're working a full week
and the law allows you to get screwed that badly,
you know what that should be changed, And this does
change it. So I am totally in favor of that.
(23:14):
You've got, Oh there's one. Which one is this as
I'm looking at this, and this has to do with
involuntary servitude. It's an anti slavery statute. If you can
imagine that, that's Prop six. Now, who is in favor
of slavery? I mean, how is it that here in
(23:35):
twenty twenty four we still have slavery. Well, let me explain,
and that is in prison there are work programs, and
most prisoners want to line up to do that because
otherwise you're in a cell and your bored silly, So
you are working and you get paid virtually nothing. Okay,
prisons are in California are allowed to force you to
(23:59):
work outside of prison.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
They call that slavery.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You can't be forced to work, that's involuntary servitude.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, the law now allows that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
At this point, the law allows a prison system to
say you've got to work, and this says, no, you don't,
because effectively it's an anti slavery system.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Plenty of people.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Are in favor of this law, which eliminates constitutional provision
allowing involuntary servitude for prisoners. And this is a constitutional amendment.
This is different than just a law. This changes the
constitution of California. And how many people are against this Nobody.
That's the other thing I want to point out about California.
(24:48):
Those are just some of them. We're going to put
all of them up on the up on the website.
You can see how I am going to vote. Agree
hopefully you disagree. But if if you look at the
California Constitution, look at the our federal constitution, Constitution of
the United States. It's the basis the constitution, and we
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have twenty something amendments and that's it. There's our constitution,
and it's impossible to amend the constitution.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
It can be done, it is done.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But it's happened very rarely in the history of this country, which, incidentally,
which incidentally, the first ten were at the beginning of
the US history. If you look at the California Constitution,
(25:41):
it's over five hundred pages. There are constitutional amendments and
laws that contradict previous ones, that spin off in ways
that no one ever, no one understands it, no one
has any idea what the entire constitution is.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Welcome to California.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So anyway, looking forward to voting this year, voting by
mail tonight, I'm voting, Neil, you voted, obviously, or you will?
Speaker 1 (26:09):
You better, Yes, I will vote.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I have not yet, okay, Amy, Yes you've already voted,
or you will, I will, you will?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
You to walk into a booth probably, Yeah, I used to.
I used to love going into booths.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I love the idea. It's with everything going on, it's
the time right now. Yeah, I just I've always enjoyed that.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And voting, of course, Yeah, going in, you're going in
the day of the election.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
We're close and yeah, okay, the process.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
All right, so do I And you get that little
tiny eye voted sticker.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Kno, this is America.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
You vote, I vote, and when you've already voted, or
you will on Tuesday, we'll vote, okay, And people who
don't vote, by the way, you have no business talking
about laws, have no business talking about how this country
is run. It is the greatest franchise that you have
as a citizen, and that is to vote. It's something
(27:09):
that is sacrisanct in this country.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And please, you gotta vote.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Just don't vote the way I vote because that becomes problematic.
All right, This is KFI AM six forty live everywhere
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