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You're listening to KFI AM six fortyThe Bill Handles show on demand on the
iHeartRadio app Monday morning, March twentyfive. All right, I want to
tell you a story. Uh,and this is interesting. Have you ever
been on a phone call with anybody? Okay, any service? You're it's
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all menus now, of course,you never talk to a human being.
And as you're hopefully connecting to aperson, you know, press one for
appointments, press two for hours,open that sort of thing. And if
you want to talk to an operator, or you want to talk to a
specific department as they transfer you,what do you get? Would you be
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willing to take a small survey afterthe phone call? Okay, how about
a small survey beginning at the phonecall? Well, that's what's happening in
Orange County. If you call onenine to one to one an Orange County
and asking for help from the OrangeCounty Sheriff's Department, you're going to be
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asked to take a brief quiz.And here it is. Is the person
you're calling about in immediate danger orcreating a safety hazard? Are they committing
a crime? Are their weapons involved? And depending on the yes or no,
to these questions that determines if adeputy or a mental health expert responds
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to the calls. There, wego back to that question, and it's
been going on both sides. Mentalhealth providers going out and dealing with people
that are talking to themselves or screamingor clearly in a lot of trouble,
homeless people that are on the streetwith these huge homeless medical problems, and
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so you call nine to one oneand those questions are you know, if
police shouldn't be involved, We're goingto go to the Orange County health Care
Agency, so the cops cans focuson traditional crime and social work. The
healthcare agency will go out and dealwith the social work for helping people on
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a crisis, and the cops canwork on their stuff. Okay, this
dual track response is the latest step, and I mean it's going all across
the country and the county's biggest policeagency and that's the Orange County Police,
Orange County sheriffs, and county healthofficials are trying to separate criminal issues and
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social issues. By the way,the Sheriff's department years ago created its behavioral
behavioral easy for me to say,health Bureau. There are three sergeants,
some deputies, forty mental health workerswho all work together, and these deal
with calls to mental illness and whatdo you do well. The lady who
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heads the OC Healthcare Agency's Behavioral healthdivision, this division I'm talking about,
says, I think this could seemlike a big change. This could actually
work. We'll talk about it whereit does and doesn't. So, Kelly
said. The people from her agencywork with the cops to create this decision
tree, this nine to eleven decisiontree, screening questions. And here's what
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she says, And it's true,the instinct for everyone when something happens to
call nine to one one, right. The cops come first. They're not
mental health clinicians. They really don'tknow. I mean, they have de
escalation training, but they really can'tdetermine if someone is mentally ill. I'll
have to tell you, mental healthpractitioners, how do you determine mental illness
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right there on the spot. Imean, that's kind of hard to do.
I guess mental health practitioners, it'seasier to make that determination. It
happens quicker. But you know,someone is rolling along and speaking themselves,
and that's always fun to do.I mean, we've all run across those
people on the sidewalk in the middleof the street. I mean it is
heartbreaking, it really is. Andthe stigma, of course there's something wrong
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with there's people, there's some moralissue, they're criminals, they're crazy.
Well, it's mental health. It'smental illness, and the stigma. Although
we are dealing with it more honestly, it is still there and so there
are divergent ways. Communities are allover the place about dealing with it.
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And now tied to mental illness ishousing issues. The two are completely conflated.
Now they are not separated. GavinNewsom in producing another two and a
half or six billion dollars with Propone that passed by four votes, I
mean nothing. And it's a bondthat rais is six million billion dollars.
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That's all going to be used forhomeless slash mental illness. And that is
how important is We're throwing tens ofbillions of dollars against this. And so
in the middle of it, youstill have all these people walking around and
nine to one one calls are beingthat are being called. That's merging.
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And the problem is as these callsare made and as mental health workers are
being called and the police say youdo it. There's a backlash. There
is a huge backlash saying these folkscan be dangerous and unless you see a
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knife, that's an easy one.There's a knife, there's a gun,
that's an easy call. But howabout someone ranting and raving and they will
attack you confront them, You're afew feet away, you're driving, and
all of a sudden the attack comesif your window is open. There's a
lot of trouble there in San Francisco, the police department, they directed officer
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San Francisco, mind you, okay, liberalism. Even the city council members
are homeless over there. Do youknow that city council meetings take place in
tents on the sidewalk? And Ijust made that up, but I wanted
to make a point here. Theynow are directing cops to enforce laws against
camping sleeping in public, and we'vehad court cases, federal court cases,
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state cases say, if there's noshelter space, guess what, these people
can sleep on public sidewalks, hopefullyin front of your house and not mine.
You know, Bill Gosh, thiswas a couple of years back.
I had pulled over on Sunset Boulevardto text my wife. So I pull
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over to be safe, right,look at me being safe? Pulled over,
and as I'm texting, out ofthe corner of my eye, I
see someone kind of walking towards mycar, and so I slowly look up
and it's this homeless cat guy whowith his bare fist punched the fender of
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my car and put a massive dentin It was like six eight hundred dollars
or something to fix. Out ofthe blue. I didn't even make eye
contact with him. Nothing. Now, you know, anybody else you'd get
out, of course, but youcan't do that. Do you remember when
we used to do all these eventsand we would go to fairs, et
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cetera. And Sam was security,Remember Sam, Sam security guy, And
I'm I'm pulling the stroller with mygirls and they were just months old and
we were going to an event,and some woman makes a mad dash for
my kid, clearly homeless, clearlyaggravated, clearly out of her mind,
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and I vainly remember, Yeah,it literally starts running towards the stroller,
and Sam, who was probably thebest security guard in the world, very
very calm, very he de escalatesanything. I mean, he shot her
in the heart and it worked out. She was no longer a threaten.
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No, no, no, oh, I just lower of the solar plexus.
Okay, all right, We're donewith that one. Now another story
of misinformation out there on the internet. Women birth control and why you are
not taking birth control because it isso dangerous. Again, this is the
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anti abortion crowd connecting with the Internet, connecting with misinformations information, and that
story I'll do when we come back. You're listening to Bill Handle on demand
from KFI AM six forty. Werea lot of stuff going on today.
The Boeing CEO is resigning at theend of the year and he's flying an
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air bus. Okay, it makessense. Today is the last day for
Donald Trump to come up with thatfour hundred million dollar bond, which he
last week says he has the money. His lawyer says he doesn't have the
money. And this is in frontof the judge and show Hey Otani today
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press conference about the scandal and it'sthe biggest scandal. Well, I'm going
to give you some history at sevenpoint fifty about the greatest baseball scandal ever
and the sports people are saying thatthis one is the biggest one since then.
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So I'm going to talk about thatcoming up at seven fifty and seven
thirty. The story itself of Shohyotani. Now another story of misinformation. Right
medical science is no good. Crazystuff on the internet is good. And
this has to do with the birthcontrol. You look a birth control under
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TikTok. You do a search andyou'll see tons and tons of articles and
posts about women blaming their weight gainon the pill, right wing commentators claiming
that birth control can lead to infertility, testimonies complaining of depression anxiety. Now
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I can see right wing commentators talkingabout abortion. I get the right wing
being anti abortion, get it one. I'm on the other side of it.
But you cannot argue with the legitimacyof their side saying it's murdered,
Okay, living being all that,and but birth control, birth control.
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Come on. So you have somesocial media influencers and they're growing in numbers,
are recommending natural alternatives, such astiming sex to menstrual cycles. That's
Vatican roulette, that's what that iswhy and it doesn't work. By the
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way, it does not work.I mean there are all kinds of things.
You take a basal body temperature andlittle tiny, little tiny increments of
body temperature somehow connect to ovulation.I mean, some of that is true,
but for the most part, it'spretty sketchy. And doctor's physicians are
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seeing an explosion of birth control misinformationtargeting who vulnerable women, Women in their
teens early twenties, more likely tobelieve this crap ol Why because once it's
up there and they start looking,now come the algorithm algorithms that feed them
the videos, because those are growing. Okay, thank you. And by
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the way, this is divorced completelyfrom scientific evidence, and so this backlash
and it's not just birth control,man, there's misinformation about beth, basic
health, poor digital literacy. You'vegot this political date over political over reproductive
rights. Look what's happening since Roev. Wade and the physicians and researchers,
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real scientists are saying, there's almostno data available on the scale of
how big this is. All theyknow anecdotally is they're seeing it over and
over again as their patients are comingin and they're asking, this is counterintuitive.
You ready for this. They're comingin for abortions after believing what they
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see about the dangers of hormonal birthcontrol. In other words, they're coming
in for abortion saying I took hormonalbirth control, the pill, and I
am so frightened of a defect inmy fetus, in that baby, even
a contrary to what the doctor say. The doctor says, hey, your
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kid is healthier than hell. No. No, because I'm reading the internet
information and who gets nailed the most. Who are most susceptible women of color?
Why? Well, because people ofcolor don't trust medical science. They
are the least vaccinated group. Whyis that. We go back in history,
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we go back to the Tuskegee experimentwhere medical science where doctors from the
government gave black men sifless, gavethem siphless and they didn't know about it
to test to see how the effectsof syfless are the effects go on the
body over the years. I mean, it is that crazy. Of course,
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they're not going to trust. Althoughthe Teskegee experiment ended a long time
ago, it doesn't matter. Sowhat happens is the misinformation folks, the
disinformation folks are now going rampant.And we know that in term medical science
is fake. Supplements are real,even though there is absolutely no proof and
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for some reason, it's for themost part anecdotal. No one tests supplements
because no one has a patent onsupplements, and testing and releasing any medication
is over ten billion dollars today fora pharmaceutical company. How are they going
to do that? I mean todayyou couldn't get aspirin on the market because
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it hasn't been tested other than yourstomach completely explodes, but the headache is
fine. I mean, it isreally crazy. So there's another one,
you know, political, Well,it's it's all political to begin with,
and the anti abortion folks are goingreally far into this. You would think
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that they would be in favor ofbirth control. Then there is no fetus,
there is no living, living beingto kill. But as the Alabama
Supreme Court said, even a frozenembryo is a human being, and any
embryo that is created under any circumstancesis considered a human being. Potential human
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being? Neil, how many potentialhuman beings have we killed at our lifetime?
Billions? I would do look atme, okay, I mean literally
billions. You're not even considered ahuman being. That doesn't matter. It's
you know, a lot of spermis out there in the wrong place.
It's not a human being. Spermis not a human being. It's a
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potential human being. It is apotential human being. Than so are your
dirty thoughts. That is correct,But no, that's dirty thoughts. Aren't
physical. I don't believe that spermis a potential Well there you go.
Well, yeah, the guilt youwould have over killing billions of potential people.
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All right, dare you sir?All right, shoe hey Otani is
going to speak today. Fred Roganis joining us, and it is a
scandal a foot actually more than afoot. And then right after that,
I'm going to tell you about thebiggest baseball scandal that has ever ever existed.
A little bit of my handle historyof nineteen nineteen. You're listening to
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Bill Handle on demand from KFI AMsix forty. Today is the last day
that former President Trump can come upwith that four hundred and thirty five million
dollars bond based on what happened inNew York that he was convicted of actually
civil liability for overstating his assets whengetting loans, etc. So he said
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last week he had the money.In the meantime, his lawyer said last
week he doesn't have the money,so today is the drop dead date.
And then what happens, Well,Letitia James, the AG can start moving
to CS assets. So that's abig story too. And then that horrific
story about what happened in Moscow,one hundred and thirty seven people dead with
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ISIS. Isis in the state,is killing those people with those four gunmen?
All right. The other big storyis Sho Hey O Tani, which
is probably the biggest scandal in baseball, certainly recent baseball. We can go
back to nineteen nineteen when it wasthe last one this size. Fred Rogan
Rogan and Rodney every weekday from twelveto three pm PM, I am five
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seventy sports. Hey Fred, morning, thanks for being with us. Good
morning Bill. All right, sothis morning number one, what do you
expect to hear and how big adeal is this? Because you have said
this is massive. Well, here'swhat I think, upon further review,
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if we were looking at the tapeagain, I think it's going to go
away. Here's really what happened.You had a booky in Orange County.
He's being investigated by the FEDS.He's an illegal bookie. All right.
As they go through his records,they find that one of the names from
a wire transfer is Shohey Otani.So now a red flag goes up.
Otani is gambling, not on baseball. All right, no foul there.
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And by the way, if yougambled at your business, I don't care
your money. Do what you wantnow, But baseball now allows you to
do that, right, gamble onsports, not baseball. Correct. So
they find the name and a redflag goes up. Somehow, while the
doctors are in Korea, because thisall started as a function of ESPN looking
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into it, word is they've gotit. They're going to break the story.
They call the Olkhannie camp and say, hey, we got this somehow,
some way, and this is themistake. This is where it all
fell apart. They hire a crisismanagement specialist. I don't know who this
is, and this person should notwhat their name used anyway. The person
that decides it's a really good ideathat then the interpreter out there to talk
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to ESPN. They talk on thephone for ninety minutes. Ninety minutes the
interpreter. The interpreter gives a storyand says, hey, I did this
it's my fault. It's all onme. I asked O'tani for help.
He was disappointed in me, buthe said he would help me and pay
four and a half million dollars.All right, that's that. They get
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ready to do the story. They'regoing to publish it. There's a few
more questions and they call ESPN backthe crisis management person and says, wait
a minute, you better talk tothe interpreter again. The guy gets back
on the phone. This time hesays, I took the money. O'tani
knew nothing of it. This isall on me. It's my fault and
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o'tani knows nothing. If he doesn'tflip his story, then you just say,
Okay, a guy got into troubleand his buddy helped him. That's
what you're saying. And nothing wasgoing to happen all the time. But
that's what you say. But thenhe flips the story, so then you
begin to think, oh, there'ssomething wrong here. The problem was the
thing was bungled from the beginning.The Dodgers had nothing to do with it,
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and if they did, it wouldhave never happened. This way,
ESPN's got a story they're going torun with it. You know what,
run with it. We'll deal withit when we get back. We'll circle
the wagons, we'll bring everybody in, we'll figure out what happened, and
we'll have one story and that'll bethe end of it. But instead,
because he flipped in the middle,it raised a number of white flags.
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It's like, during your life,Phil, you've made a couple of bucks,
you know that you cannot go tothe bank and start withdrawing five hundred
thousand dollars at a time without redflags. Growing up, know that anybody
who's made any money, No,you can't take fifty thousand dollars out of
the bank. Well, thank you, thank you very much for assuming the
fact that I that I have fivehundred thousand dollars to take out of the
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bank. But that's okay, No, generous, that way generous. But
okay, So you think it's goingto go away and it has become how
do it roll into this massive,massive, national, maybe international story based
on Is it just based on theguy just flipping his story? Is that
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it is that the whole story?Yeah? I do believe that. I
believe when the guy flipped, thenit became massive because you couldn't figure out
what happened, and we still can'tfigure out how the interpreter would have access
to Otani's bank account if in facthe did lie, just start transferring funds
under O'toni's name. So there's agray area in here, But I think
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O'tani really is too big to failhere, and he'll come forward that day.
Dodgers very careful yesterday to say hewill speak today, and even Dave
Roberts said I'll be curious to hearwhat he has to say, and that
he'll be able to tell his ownside of the story. So the Dodgers
know what they're doing. I'm goingto let him do it. They positioned
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this in a way where he willcome forward. If there's a mea culpa,
he will ask for it, andI really think they'll just move on,
all right. So how many Imean, you're on today from twelve
to three am, five seventy howmuch of those three hours do you think
you're going to devote to this story? Friday we devoted an awful lot to
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it. Today we'll probably I'm guessingwe'll do the first segment because then he'll
speak later this afternoon. Okay,fair enough Fred, Thank you always great
information. Rogan and Rodney today everyweekday from twelve to three pm a three
pm AM five seventy Sports. ThanksFred, you got a bill all right
now, I want to do alittle handle history when we get back.
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This is a scandal that probably isin the scandal. Let me tell you
a real scandal in history, andthat's going back to nineteen nineteen where the
World series was fixed, and it'sa hell of a story connecting to today.
Just don't want to do you alittle handle history. You're listening to
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Bill Handle on demand from KFI AMsix forty. As we continue with the
show, still a lot going on. Oh with the end of the hour,
at the end of the show eightthirty to nine o'clock, do they
have a case with Wayne and me? And that's how we end our money.
How we end our program talking aboutmoney. That's where I was going.
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Former President Trump is going to bein court today in Manhattan for a
hearing on the criminal trial involving thehush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels.
And today is the deadline to thatbond four hundred and fifty four million
dollars after his judgment, and hesays he had the money. Last week,
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he said he had the money.This week, well, his lawyer
said he doesn't have the money.And so today we're going to find out
because the state is saying, hey, you gotta pay up or we start
seizing assets. We'll see if thathappens. That would be a complete political
move. Now the show he oTani story that I just had fred on
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and if you want to listen tothe precursor, because he explained it a
little bit better than I could,and you can listen to it. We
have a podcast. We're on demand, so just go for it. As
matter of fact, any show orpart of a show here on KFI you
can go to on demand. Justit's the ihire radio app. And that's
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easy stuff. So now I wastalking about show Hey Otani and the quote
gambling scandal. Let me I wantto go back in history and give you
a story of probably the biggest scandalin sports that ever existed, and that
was with a guy named Arnold Rothstein. He was a gambler, came from
an orthodox Jewish family. By theway, his dad was a businessman of
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extraordinary reputation. He became a gamblerinstantly as a kid. And he was
in the mafia, the Jewish mafia. There was one out there. Yeah,
no, absolutely, mayer Lansky.You've heard that name. He Arnold
Rothstein. And so what he didis he gambled and gambled and gambled and
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was part of the underworld and hewent for the big time. He fixed
the nineteen nineteen World Series out andout fixed it, and that becomes really
interesting. As a matter of fact, he was tried for that as well
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as others, and it's called theBlack Sox scandal. So he had the
two biggest teams in base the ChicagoWhite Sox the Cincinnati Reds were in the
World Series. And what he did, first of all, he bet two
hundred and seventy thousand dollars on theReds to win and earned three hundred and
fifty thousand dollars in the process.Because what happened, well, it became
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sort of obvious to everyone that theWhite Sox were playing so badly that it
looked like they were trying to lose. They were trying to lose. He
fixed it. He paid them bribes. Eight of the players went to court.
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Now, no one was convicted,but those eight never played a game
of professional ball again, and therewere some big, big players. But
where he really made his money camethe following year because he got into drugs,
not just gambling, but into drugsand into bootlegging. He was considered
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the first successful modern drug dealer.Pablo Escobar took a page out of Arnold
Rothstein's background, and he became theking of America's America's drug trade. And
then how did he die? Howdo you think he died? He got
involved in what looked like a fixedpoker game. Of course the game was
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rigged. Rostein lost. He wason the other side. He owed them
three hundred thousand dollars. Of coursehe had been swindled, refused to pay,
and he got a phone call.An hour after going into the hotel,
the Manhattan Park Central Hotel, hehad received a phone call that we
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want to meet you. He hadbeen shot, and he died in the
hospital two days later. But oh, the Great Gatsby, that story is
based on his life life. It'sthe Boardwalk. What is that television show?
The Boardwalk? Trying to remember that? Yeah, yeah, thank you
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very much for that is also looselybased on his life. But as we
look at show, Hey Otani withthis scandal quote scandal man, that doesn't
come close to probably the biggest scandalin sports history. Can you imagine the
fixing of the World Series where ateam purposely loses big stuff? All right?
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Coming up, Kate Middleton is havingpreventive chemo therapy. They found cancer
and then they got rid of cancertheoretically, and then she's undergoing chemotherapy and
what is that about? Because thisisn't chemo therapy for people who actively have
or have active cancer. Amy isjoining us because she has lived this story.
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