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October 1, 2024 26 mins
Vance and Walz Dabate: What to watch for and what are the rules. IDF announces launch of limited ground raids on Hezbollah sites across Lebanon. Newsom signs bill requiring health insurance companies to cover IVF. California enacts unprecedented ban on rat poisons that are killing wildlife.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here
on a Tuesday morning Taco Tuesday, October one.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Some of the big stories.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We are looking at the death toll from Hurricane Helene
worse than we thought, the damage worse than we thought.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
And it is being described as.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well apocalyptic, biblical in its destruction of that area. And
Israel has now begun its quote limited ground operation in
southern Lebanon targeting hes Belah.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
And I will do that next segment.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
And then the other big business bit of news is
tonight the Vans Waltz VP debate, which is going to
be watched big time. Now, normally nobody really cares, you know,
VP debates, Eh, they don't change much. However, this is
particularly important because this election is going to be so
razor in that even a few votes that are turned

(01:04):
one way or the other, or people feel strong enough
that they are going to vote in one sense or another,
can make a big, big difference here. So what are
you going to see tonight, Well, you've got Wall's sixty
year old Minnesota governor. Very matter of fact, Oshuck's kind
of Guy Vance is a forty year old Ohio senator.
I think he's eighteen months into his term. And you've

(01:27):
got two very different people. Walt's pretty true blue Democrat
liberal and Vance a very true red Republican. So what
are we going to see tonight? Okay, what we're going
to see is, first of all, their political views are
going to be and that's no surprise put on stage,

(01:48):
and they're very different. Walt's two term governor, former congressman.
Expect him not only to talk about his political philosophy
and of course pitch Harris's views because he is that
she is his boss, but also he's going to push
hard that he's a high school teacher, assistant football coach,

(02:10):
just a regular kind of guy, very likable, you know,
like Uncle.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Tim kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Vance a marine veteran, hard knows author of the best
selling book about his Appalachian family and values and socioeconomic
problems growing up.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
By the way, I've read his book, He'll Billy Eology.
It is excellent. It is really good. In that book.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
You're not seeing a crazy person, You're not seeing animals
being eaten.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, you are, because he grew up with the eight squirrels
and posts and stuff, but you.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Don't see any of the crazy you see today. He
takes a very conservative view, but in my opinion, logical,
well reasoned, and that's part of America that I pay
attention to. So you're going to see him push his
war record. Marine veteran, as I said, went to an

(03:06):
Ivy League, came out first person to come out of
his family, his entire area that went to an Ivy
League school. And it's they're both interesting people, for sure.
One of the big issues, of course, is abortion. And
here Walls is real simple. He believes an abortion, even
to the point where he is going to be accused
of by vance of when he was a Minnesota governor.

(03:30):
Now we're talking to Walls backing a measure that would
allow abortion right up to the moment of birth, even
to the point at which doctors wouldn't be required to
provide life saving care to a baby who has survived
a botched abortion. Now, are there a few hundred late
term abortions given a year?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
There are?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
However, that is skewed, even though it is technically true.
It's not what it sounds like. But this is what
politics are about. It's not what it sounds like it
rarely is. You're gonna see a lot of simplistic stuff.
You're going to see Vance at tak Wall attack walls
because he left and retired from the military in order

(04:09):
not to go to a rock. Walls is going to
come back and go, Well, let me put it this way.
My unit was deployed. We were notified the unit was
going to be deployed after I registered for Congress, and
I retired before that. And the accusation is still going
to be given. You retired so you wouldn't go to
a rock. Okay, he's going to Walls is going to

(04:34):
continue calling Vance and Trump weird.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
It is.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
By the way, Vance will also attack Walls on a
statement about weapons of war and that he was an
area of war, and that's absolutely true.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I want to know what Walls says about this one.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I think he's already said I misspoke, and I'd like
to see how he's going to get out of it
other than saying, you're right, I said that. I shouldn't
have said that I missed. Now what let's move on,
which would be the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
The interesting part are the dogs and cats statement that.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Vance has backed up.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
He has said, yes, those Haitians eat their neighbor's pets,
or at least he has said that the President Trump
was right about that.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
And then the reason he gave, and this one I think.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Is attackable instantly, and that is, if I have to
make up stories to get the people of the United
States to concentrate on the real problems we have, then
I will do it. And of course the question to
him is what other stories do you want to make up.

(05:47):
Let's say you want to attack a country, do you
make up a story about they attacked us first? Where
do you go with that? How do you have a
vice president of the United States make up stories of
the American people to further an agenda. You can't, I mean,

(06:09):
you know, I mean it's been done. Do you remember
Colin Powell with that little vial of what did he
say it was anthrax? He said this much anthrax will
kill five million people And it turned out to be
just basically a little viole of sweet and low, and
that proved that everybody was going to die. It was.

(06:29):
Now the argument is based on the intelligence was that legitimate?
I don't know you can argue that that was a
legitimate statement based on their view, and that's Trump's argument,
based on.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
The information we got. It just happened to be a.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Woman who heard it from a woman who heard it
from a woman who made a phone call, and she
instantly called and said, oh my god, it was just
a rumor that I was repeating.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I think there's a difference. So we'll see, you'll see that.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Waltz talk about reproductive rights and the fact that Trump
named three people to the US Supreme Court, all anti
abortion and overturned Roe v. Wade, he is going to
have a hard time coming back at all on the
reproductive rights issue.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
He said, I wanted to go to the States. That
was important for me. I don't know if I had
to argue, you know what.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think he wanted his evangelical political base and he
got it, and he got it. So both sides have weaknesses,
both sides have strength. And then I'm going to end
with the fact that we've never had this happen before,
and that is a vice presidential candidate a debate where
you hear where you hear, or you get reports that

(07:47):
the debate. In this case, Walls is nervous about the debate.
He is scared he is going to not do well.
I never heard that before. So we'll see Nu's tonight,
we'll carrie it live here on KFI and tomorrow certainly
announced that all right, Oh.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
We knew this was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
And this is my wheelhouse because you know, I'm particularly
interested what happens with the Israeli defense forces in that
attire area of.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
The Middle East.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I have friends in Israel. My great uncle lived in
Israel for many years. I have been to Israel many times,
so I am, and I have been to the Lebanon
Israeli border. I mean, you go to the border up
there when this kind of crapple, what isn't happening and
you literally are looking at Lebanese soldiers right on the

(08:34):
other side.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Of this fence. Well, you can't do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
All of northern Israel has been evacuated sixty thousand people,
and all of southern Lebanon has been evacuated one.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Hundred thousand people.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And after the terrorist attack on Israel October seventh by
those crazy Hamasa terrorists, they killed twelve hundred Israelis.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Boy that was a good move, wasn't it. Boy? They
got theirs.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
They say, oh boy, someone over there has to say,
maybe that wasn't a good thing. Forty one thousand, forty
one thousand Palestinians have already been killed. Now everybody thinks
that there's forty one thousand civilians, that's not true. About
a third of them are Hamas fighters. They're militants, and
they go to war. They're the ones that went across

(09:22):
the border and massacred twelve hundred Israelis. And if they
didn't think Israel's going to fight back, boy, they got
another thing coming. So I think it's fair to say
that two thirds civilians have been killed in Palestine. And
well they call it Palestine, let's call it Gaza. And

(09:43):
so here's what happened with his Bellah. And that's the
group up north, a terrorist group up north that control.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
All the southern Lebanon.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
They are not only a terrorist group, they are a
fighting force, pretty sophisticated, and they are a government. They
give services to those people, and they and schools and hospitals.
And the problem with thought Hezbollah did And here's another one.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Maybe this one didn't work out either.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
The second that October seventh happened October eighth, Israel invades Gaza,
they start launching missiles against Israel, sometimes one hundred a day.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well that's a little problematic. What do you think Israel's
going to do? So they just gave it. They were
just sitting there.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It was a tit for tat for years, but it
really ramped up after Israel starts pounding Gaza and decimates
probably a third of Gaza or forty percent.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Of Gaza is a debris field.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
So Hesbela decides to start launching these missiles just.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
In solidarity with Hamas.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Let's say, just in solidarity, no invasion, no one went in,
there was no terrorist attack, it was just our brothers
in Gaza are being decimated by Israel. We are now
going to do what we can to destroy Israel or
to hurt Israel.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So let's send in the missiles. How'd that work out
for you? All right?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Israel intercepts thousands and thousands of pagers that they use,
and the reason they use pagers is because cell phones
can be intercepted. Right, those cell phones, Well, I guess
what Israel did. Thousands went in, they got them before
they went and then pushed the trigger and twenty five
hundred people had their ears blown off, or their weight

(11:31):
or their arms blown off. And then the walkie talkies,
which of course also Israel can't intercept. They got hold
of those and hundreds of people were severely injured, and
well thousands of people were injured, hundreds were killed. And
so now Israel they keep on launching missiles, and what

(11:52):
Israel says is Okay, now we're going to.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Go after you.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Guys, we suggest you stop, and now we're going to
go after the leadership of Hezbollah. Took out the senior
leadership massive attacks, knowing exactly where the leadership were a
matter of fact, they had undergrade, you know where the
headquarters of Hesbola underground, and they.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Knew exactly where it was at.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Down comes the bunker buster bombs, boom, and you've got
the entire hierarchy, not only the head of Heusbola, but
most of the underlings. Now they're gone, and the attacks
keep on coming and coming. And guess what happened. We
knew there was going to be incursion. Yep, Israel is
now on Lebanese soil. They've done it before. Two thousand

(12:41):
and six was a bad move by Israeli.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
They went into the Janine, the.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Camp, the refugee camp, and there were massacres that occurred.
Ariel Sharon got into a lot of trouble for that
because they just killed innocent people. I mean literally, the
Israeli army. It was war crimes. It was straight out
war crimes at what Israel did. But they were and
then they occupied Lebanon for eighteen years. Well that's the

(13:11):
last thing Israel wants to do is start occupying both
Gaza and Lebanon. But everybody's everybody's on the record at
this point. Israel doesn't sit there defensively anymore, not even
a chance you hit Israel. And one of the things
about the Israeli government and at Tanyahu and the war
cabinet is We're gonna hit three times harder than you

(13:33):
hit us, five times harder than you hit us. And
they're now moving into South Lebanon. Hezbollah was considered one
of the top military forces in the entire Middle East,
supply trained by Iran. Hisbola is a proxy of Iran,
like the Houti's in Yemen, and like the various terrorist

(13:56):
groups up and down in Iraq. Iraq, which also has
a population of terrorists and attacking Israel.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, Israel is not taking it.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It is straight out war as far as their concern,
and his blot is not what it was touted to be. Nope,
it has been seriously degraded. And now we'll see what happens.
The incursion has happened. Now Israel says it's a limited incursion.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, his Bola starts fighting. Seriously, it's not going to
be so limited at least I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And the United States theoretically wasn't told about it. Certainly
the air attacks, the United States wasn't told about this one.
Biden admitted, Yeah, he knew about this and gave him
a green light.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Because the United States has.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Huge influence in Israel because they provide massive arms to Israel,
and without those arms, much like Ukraine, Ukraine is in
deep trouble as Israel, not as deep because Israel has
a very sophistic hated arms industry, but at the same time,
it needs a whole lot more munitions than what it

(15:06):
can produce in the United States is the primary supplier.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
All right, So we'll talk about that. Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Now, something I've been fighting for for literally forty years
finally came to fruition. The governor just signed a bill,
our governor requiring the large health insurance companies to cover
in vitro fertilization.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
And let me tell you how far back I go
with IVF.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I started in the reproductive business, if you will, helping
infertile couples have children in nineteen eighty. The first IVF
baby was born in nineteen seventy eight, Louise Brown. And
there's a whole story there that I may end up
doing as a matter of fact, and I think I'm

(15:52):
gonna do that tomorrow because the history of IVF is fascinating.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
A couple of guys, step Toe.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And Edwards, who buy themselves, created IVF and had no public.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Funding, had no hospital funding. They did it on their own.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And I was very fortunate to have met doctor Edwards
and sat down, had to talk with him.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
A real pioneer. He isn't given enough credit.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
But let's go back to IVF in vitrol for well,
let's talk about infertility. Infertility is traditionally not viewed as
a medical problem as far as insurance companies. If you're infertile,
it's not the same as cancer, broken bone, you need surgery.
It's just you're infertile, and therefore we're not going to

(16:37):
cover it because it's not a medical problem. Well, the
people who needed IVF to have children otherwise they couldn't,
and we're talking probably now in the millions which had
to pay for it for the most part, ask them
if infertility is a medical problem or not.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
My kids were born of in vitro fertilization, and.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I can't tell you how many kids were, and let
me tell you how expensive it was. The only good
news about my kids being born is I had twins,
so the unit costs dropped in half. I actually got
two for the price of one, so that made it
a little bit easier. It was a sale that day,
and I'll take it, but it was still hideously expensive.

(17:22):
I think it was at that time. It may have
been eighteen or twenty thousand dollars twenty nine years ago.
So the fight for in vitro fertilization has now come
to the point of something that I first asked for
because we knew by the way we were doing or

(17:43):
I was doing surrogacy before in vitro fertilization became any
kind of a medical success. When I first started, the
success rate was under five percent. Today it's in the
range of sixty percent. Matter of fact, the birth rate,
the fertilization rate is higher today within vitro, far higher

(18:04):
than it is with natural conception. Stooping your spouse, which
is now a waste of time. Don't even bother if
you want kids. Eh, you know what, go to the doctor.
You don't have to have sex.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
You can get married like I did and not bother.
And as far as the in vitro story.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
It's tough for the women because they have to take
drugs to create more eggs than is normal. So it's
a medical procedure and it's not fun as far as
guys are concerned. Okay, not bad, not bad at all,
because you go in the other room.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh, I have a story I want to share with you.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
One of my doctor friends, a urologist, male fertility expert,
who did sperm counts that had the biggest we created
the biggest sperm bank actually in the world.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And he did this.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
It was male infertility. And obviously how you deal with
male infertility is you have to have sperm specimens. You know, specimens.
You masturbate into a dixie cup. Matter of fact, if
you come to my house, my kids when they were young.
G Daddy, where did I come from? I point to
this looseight sort of obeliss with a dixie cup in it,

(19:22):
and I go, that's where you came from. He had
in his office what he called he had three rooms
that he called masturbatorium number one, number two, number three.
And science tells us the more excited a man is,
the bigger and the better the sperm count. This is

(19:44):
real science. So he wanted to maximize sperm counts. And
so therefore you have the three masturbatorium and you'd walk
in and those are the days of videotape, and you
had every porno videotape.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
You can imagine.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
The walls were flecked, wall flecked wallpaper, red shag carpets.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
It basically looked like an Iranian whorehouse.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And the magazines that he had there, I mean gay sex,
straight sex, I mean whatever turned you on, barnyard love,
whatever it was. And the excitement level, he was able
to get really good sperm counts.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
He was ahead of the curve. So the good news
is here.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
It all goes back to in vitro fertilization is a
real medical problem and finally the law has caught up
with it. And as a matter of fact, and the
story of IVF is unbelievable. I actually sat down and
debated the first IVF baby, Louise Brown in England, and

(20:55):
she could be one of the dumbest human beings I
ever met in my life. I'll explain why, no, no,
there's a reason that's not me, just that's me, just
them making it up. I will tell you the reason.
You're gonna go, yeah, pretty dumb. Yeah, yeah, handle, I understand.
So we ought to put that one together tomorrow because
that's a fun story. Okay, so much for that. Let

(21:19):
me tell you what is happening. California did a really
neat thing.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Now. I'm not a big fan.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Of a lot of the bills that are passed by
the California legislature super majority Democrat, very liberal Governor Gavin Duson,
So you know, we get a lot of bills that
don't make a lot of sense. However, a bill just
passed that the governor signed that restricts the use of
the blood thinning rat poisons.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Rat poisons are not poisons.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That kill rats. What they do is they're anti coagulants.
They don't let the blood coaculate, so internally internal bleeding
occurs and the.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Rats die of that.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
The problem is that stays in the rat's body, and
so when you have a rat that is either dead
or really not doing.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well, it's easy prey.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
So the raptors are out there, the pumas are out there,
the eagles are out there. The owls really go and
they're dying. They're dying. A Department Fish and Wildlife report
twenty twenty three, eighty eight percent of raptors, ninety percent
of pumas tested have been exposed to those pointment those poisons.

(22:35):
So California has become the first state to restrict those
kinds of poisons. Dean Sharp has been since he's been
on the air, and he started six years ago, has
been talking about this use of poison and you don't
want to use those because it.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Kills the owls, It kills the creatures that feed on
these rats. Now, who is against this law? Well, oh, how.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
About the industry, the pesticide industry saying, hold on a minute,
Hold on a minute. You know, rats are a real
problem diseases. You get bubonic plague with rats because they
carry all these diseases and we have to get rid
of them, not particularly noting that wildlife dies because of rats.

(23:24):
And there are other ways of doing this. Frankly, I
don't know if many that work as well. You get
those little rat traps and then go out and release
raps rats someplace so someone else gets infested.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Let that family have the plague.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I don't know, but I do know, And I stopped
using rat poisons, by the way, I just outright stopped.
We have an owl that lived at our house and
it was just an I love als. Two of my
favorite birds in the world are pelicans and owls. They're
just terrific. And it's heartbreaking, you know, to have these animals,

(24:02):
have these birds, and these animals who feed on rats
die because of this, because the anti coagulants. So the
law has just been signed by the governor really limiting
the amount of rat poison, these rodenticides that are anti

(24:23):
anti coagulants, CHLORA fossinone and war for it.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
People say, you know, people take war for in it.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Now I'm on blood thinners because my heart business and
so many people are same thing. Because you were a rat, Yeah,
I was a rat, and tell you I tell you
what else it is cheaper to buy because you've got
medicines that are so expensive, you know, big pharma. You
can actually have the same effect on if you need

(24:55):
a blood thinner, buy rat poison and just take that.
And you say money, Bill Handle is not a medical doctor,
nor should you take any of his medical or legal
advice for that matter.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's actually true.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Then there's first in generation rat poisons and there is
a lot to this, and this law restricts the first generation.
It takes a while for the rats and they have
to eat several times of this rat poison.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
So you know, put rat poison on feed and whatever
rats munch on.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
And the first generation took several times they had to eat.
Second generation they just popped off. I ate the rat poison,
internal bleeding, butN done. You're finished, and then down comes
an owl, down comes.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
A raptor a hawk. Oh boy, dinner.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
The problem is that the blood thinner and the rat
poison kills them and so don't use it. And the
bill is great and for those view that work for
that industry that says that it's.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
More important to.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Make sure that people don't get sick and the infestation
than your local owl. Let me tell you, your local
owl is far more important than your family.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Being wiped out by the plague. That simple. That's probably
not where Dean wanted this to go, was it? No?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Probably not okay coming up. And by the way, I'm serious.
I stopped using it because of Dean and I years ago.
And this is a good, good thing. This is KFIAM
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