August 7, 2024 • 24 mins
The haves and have-nots at the center of America’s inflation fight. State pushed Chevron out of California, who’s next? Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about the latest from the CDC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here
on a Wednesday morning, August seventh, Harris Vice President Harris
yesterday announced her pick for her vice president nomination, that
is Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Seven o'clock this morning. I did a segment on it.
Very interesting guy as.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Good choice first, sort of up in the air after
that rally, I said, that is a good choice.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
And so you can listen to that segment on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Also, my podcast, the Bill Handle Show, podcasts every Tuesday
and Thursday at nine o clock on the iHeartRadio app
or Spotify Apple. I mean, it's all over the place,
so I won't listen to it, so I have no
idea how it sounds like. So people describe it on
Instagram at Bill Handle Show, and it's kind of fun
(00:57):
seeing how many people hate it. You know, it's my
normal listenership, And thank you for hating it, because I
really enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
As you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now, presidential politics for a moment and inflation, inflation is
going to be a big, big part of the political run.
The inflation, well, Donald Trump had said and part of
his campaign is we are in the worst inflationary period
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in our history, which of course is not true, and
it is it's never been as bad. Well, inflation is
under control, but it's only been under control for a
few months or a year.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We still think of inflation because it is baked in.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We don't think that, gee, restaurant prices haven't gone up
in several months.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We think they have gone up, and they have.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And the fact that prices have evened out moderated.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Who cares.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All we know is I go when I go to Carls,
which I won't do anymore. I've done once in the
last twenty years. All I know is I went in
there and I paid for a cheeseburger, fries and a
soda eighteen dollars for a fast fool food meal. Now,
(02:20):
if I go in six months from now and it's
eighteen bucks, you think I'm going to think, oh, this
is moderated, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Not so bad.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Or a year from now when it's eighteen dollars. The
reality is the price hasn't gone up. The reality is
it went up so quickly because inflation was at nine
percent per year, and that was during the Biden administration
and nine percent per year is expensive, It is insane.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Those are high numbers.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now, we've had periods where it was seventeen eighteen percent.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I remember doing the Carter year. It was that high.
After World War One.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
After World War Two, the inflation rate was astronomical, nothing
like nine percent. But after Jimmy Carter, and that was
a lot of years ago, inflation just didn't go up.
And then we had for a whole period of time
for two percent inflation.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, that's nothing. And then all of a sudden
it hits US.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Pandemic really nailed us, it was and no one was buying.
So right after the pandemic goes away. Guess what happens,
Boom the demand is there. It becomes astronomical. Prices go
up like crazy. Did wages go up, Yes, they went up.
Did they keep up with inflation for a small period
of time. And so what we have here is at
(03:49):
the heart of what's going on in our economy right
now is really the inflation fight, where that's one of
the big issues.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We're in the third year of this fire, and.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's widening, the split, widening, the split of whom the
haves and the have nots. The wealthy always do better
and they're affected by inflation. But you know what, not
so much, not nearly as much as the middle class
or the poor, who are nailed by inflation and particularly
(04:27):
and this is the big one, housing costs. If you've
got a pile of money and the cost of housing
goes up even twenty percent, okay, you know what, you
suck it up. I mean, it's not as much fun.
You're gonna do some stretching. But if housing goes up
twenty percent, so many people are just out of the market.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They can't afford it. And that's not just the housing.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So what I'm gonna do is I'm to come back
in a moment and go through more of this, and
I'm going to come back and revisit what I just said,
or what Neil and I just talked about, how this
is not a fun place America, particularly southern California, to
be poor, and inflation has nailed a lot of people,
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particularly after a period of which people actually had more
money than they've ever had. I'm talking about the money
coming in from the pandemic, and you couldn't spend any money,
and you were getting money from the Feds they were
throwing money at us.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
They were throwing money at businesses. I know businesses who.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Shut down during the pandemic, and we're making more money
not doing business doing business than they were ever before
or after they reopened up after the pandemic. And I
want to continue on with inflation at the center of
they have and have nots fight. And as the reason
(06:04):
I bring up inflation because that's going to be a big,
big part of presidential politics coming up until November, and
the attack on Kamala Harris is going to be And
you heard this that inflation from Trump and from J. D.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Vans.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
This inflation is the worst that it's ever been in
the history of the United States. Not true, but that's
besides the point. Inflation actually is under control, little high,
but it's under control. But it doesn't matter because inflation
is already baked in. We've been hit by it. We've
been hit big time. So it has truly damaged where
it was damaging Biden's re election campaign. Frankly, I thought
(06:43):
that was the most vulnerable part of his campaign. And
of course he's gone. So now you have Vice President
Kamala Harris and she is going to broadly pitch his
economic policies, which you're going to see the Republican and
Trump doing is saying, you effectively have Joe Biden in
(07:05):
a skirt in terms of economic policy. And it looks
like that's true. That is I think going to be
and is a legitimate attack. Inflation did happen. Now, keep
in mind that presidents have very little to do with inflation.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, there is some influence, but not that much. Also,
the FED ris raising interest rates. Presidents have nothing to
do with that. The FED is completely autonomous.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
They make the decision as to where interest rates are
going to go.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But then a gorse during the course of a presidential race,
everybody conflates everything. So when things go south across the board,
the president gets to blame. And when things go north
and things are well, the president takes the credit. Doesn't
matter whether the president had anything to do with it.
When things are good, it was me, I'm the one
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that did it. And when things are bad, it's those
guys over there. And either way, it's those guys over there. Frankly,
So what is going on? Well, the economy continues to
defy expectations.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
We've been waiting for the slow down.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Now, for years, the US job creation the machine has
boosted wages outpacing inflation. I mean, you look at what
happened with the meltdown a couple of days ago, and
it's come back, or it is coming back. And that
is because all of a sudden the economy is starting
to cool down, and oh what's going on with this?
(08:42):
That becomes a problem. Now here is the issue. Who
gets hurt? The middle class and the poor get hurt
the worst. Now, during the pandemic, things were pretty good.
Government was plowing money into people's accounts and businesses and
there was nowhere to spend them money. Well that's all
gone for the most part, for the middle class and
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the poor, lower middle.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Class, it's gone.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
People have gone through it and now what Well, they
can work, but they don't have the money and they're.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Spending too much.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Because here's what happens when you come back from a
period if you can't spend, is you start spending like crazy.
This is why, as I said, the attack on Biden
that it's the worst inflationary period in history is simply
not true. It did hit nine percent, which is very high,
But as I said, we had times after World War Two,
(09:40):
for example, and a World War One and went to
a piece economy after During World War two, you couldn't
buy a car, you couldn't buy pots and pans, you
couldn't buy a refrigerator because everything had gone over the
war economy. They were making tanks and ammunition, military vehicles, planes,
that's where all the factories were doing. Okay, people are
(10:03):
saving because wages were good. Everybody was working, and all
of a sudden, people have a pile of money and
they start buying like crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And guess what happens when.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The demand is that high and you're moving back into production, Well,
inflation goes berserk. That's when we had seventeen eighteen percent inflation.
And that's what happened after the pandemic. And now that
has calmed.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Down, we're back to normal. And in the end, what
do we have.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
We have prices that have moderated, have flattened out for
the most part, but they went up so high. We're
still looking at eighteen dollars at a Carls Junior for
a burger, fize at a drink, and when you go to
a restaurant, you can't believe how high prices are and
neil restaurants. Even when costs go crazy, they hold off
(10:51):
as long as they can to raise their prices until
they just can't take it anymore. So when you see
a restaurant, for example, raising its price six months ago
last month, it's not because prices inflation has just gone up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's because they held off.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, they wait. They wait and wait and wait because
they don't want to push that on to the customer
if they don't have to.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Right, So what's going on?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, the wealthier doing fine businesses are I'm talking about
big business investments, major corporations making money handover fist people
who invest, so those businesses are getting dividends handover fist
the average worker salaries. They flattened out there. It was
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But the trick is.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
To own big businesses or to be shareholders and not
be a working stiff.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But that was the secret before all this happened, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And the answer to being poor always the same answer,
get rich, and that cures everything, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yep? Okay, coming up, doctor Jim.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Keeney, and I am, well, I'm gonna do a couple
of things that are our normal kinds of conversations, which
I think are important. But at eight fifty, I'm gonna
do something that I have never ever done in forty
years broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is it forty years? No? Thirty seven? Thirty seven years?
What is I first spoke on a microphone nineteen eighty five?
So what is that? Is that thirty seven years? I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Is it thirty nine years now? Nineteen eighty five? To
oh yeah, yeah, thirty nine years? Good God. I think
I'm gonna go in the other room and collapse. You know,
I'm gonna take a break and change my diaper.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Okay. Now, doctor Jim Keeney, who.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Is our medical expert, extraordinary and our can Sultan to
the medical world.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Good morning Jim, Good morning Bill. Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And before I do that, I also want to point
out next segment with Jim, I am going to do
something I have not done in thirty nine years of broadcasting.
From the moment I opened my mouth behind a mic,
I have never ever done this.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So and Jim's going to be part of it. So
I'm very excited.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Jim.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, I'm here, yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now, one of the big stories about the Olympics is
the transgender issue.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It was the boxer I.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Think it was the Hungarian or Slovenian boxer who was
a man became a woman, big, tall, very powerful, won
a boxing match against the Italian who lasted forty six
seconds and bailed out, and it was just crazy. But
again the issue of transgenderosity transgenderiosity came up. And the
(13:57):
argument has always been, if you take hormones, get you
take a lot of testosterone, or you take progesterone, get
rid of the testosterone and you become more female, what
is that legitimately you becoming equivalent to a woman, or
do all the advantages other than.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That still occur where it's basically unfair.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean lots of issues here, right because we're
not just talking about biology. We're talking about you know,
kind of socially and you know, people's rights and politically
and a lot of different issues wrapped up in these decisions.
And that's why it's so difficult. I mean, biologically it's easy.
(14:43):
There's clearly an advantage, no question, and so the studies
all show that even you know that right now, the
Olympics require one year of testosterone level really below at
a feminine you know, not at a mass DeLine range,
(15:03):
But there are studies that show that even after that
year of being a lower testosterone level, you're still going
to have a significant physical advantage. So no question there.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Okay, So let me ask you in terms of physical
advantage body mass, muscle mass, does that remain, if not
completely pretty significant. I'm assuming skeletal structure doesn't change, and
there are differences between male and female where it's just
you're more athletic if you're a male skeleton, if I.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Have that right, Yeah, no, it's for sure. So the
bone density is one issue and that really doesn't change
significantly once you go, once you go in the hormone
suppression from when you're going from male to female, and
then the same thing as muscle mass, they do lose
muscle mass as you as you switch and you suppress testosterone,
(15:59):
you're going to lose a lot of muscle mass, are
going to gain fatty tissue, and so that does change,
but it still gives a significant advantage with larger muscles,
stronger muscles, and then more you know, men tend to
have a higher hemoglobin level that will correct over time,
but still there's just it all adds together to be
(16:20):
differences and you know, when you're when you're watching things
in the Olympics, sometimes it comes down to, you know,
one one thousandth of a second between first place and
second place, and these things clearly give that kind of advantage.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Are you surprised that the International Olympic Committee and various
other sports agencies allow transgender athletes to cross the line.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
No, I don't, because I think that they're more focused
on the social and political aspects of it at this point,
because the science hasn't really caught up with it yet.
I mean, there definitely is science. It shows that you
know that there's an advantage, but I don't know that
you have a specific you know, something to point to
you to say, all right, at this, at this many
(17:08):
months or at this many years afterwards, you can participate
and not have a significant advantage. We don't have that
data yet. It's almost like, you know, Internet and AI
and everything else where things are progressing faster than our
knowledge base and our and our science behind it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That makes sense, by the way, in terms of weight
loss from male to female, I'm assuming depending on the size,
you can lose quite a bit of weight and having
your penis and the scrote removed, do.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I have that right.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I haven't looked at those studies.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Bill. Oh okay, I love doing that to you, Jim.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And as I said, I promoted this that I'm going
to do something that I have or not do something
that has never happened in all my years of broadcasting.
And we're still I'm talking about nineteen eighty five, the
first time I opened my mouth behind a mic and
tell you what it is. I am looking at an
official document from the CDC. This is a poster that
(18:08):
has been released, and I am refusing to state the
words on an official governmental document.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Because they can be so offensive.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, calendar this guy's usually I go the other way.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I am refusing to actually.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
State the words and read them to you. And it
is a placard, a poster that says attention, big letters,
and then under that is sort of a graphic of
two people in bed on pillows looking at each other
and it looks like just a sort of a graphic,
and then it read diarrheal infections can spread through sex.
(18:55):
And then comes the fun part contact with stuel parenthese
poop during oral or anal sex or during anal play.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And then in parentheses the.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Description of what happens, which I am not going to read.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Okay, ready for that, I am not reading it. I'm refusing.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, go figure anyway during anal play and then
describing everything you can possibly do can lead to diarrheal infections,
protect yourself, protect your partner, wash hands, genitals and anus
before and after sex, use condoms, dental dams. Wait two
weeks after diarrhea to have sex. I mean, why don't
(19:40):
you just give up sex? I mean, that's so disgusting.
And it's about Shigella and Jim. There's why I want
to I don't want your opinion and your sex life
because we don't have to get into that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Although I am interested. How big a deal with Shagela.
I mean, it is a real deal. It's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It makes people very sick, uh, And and so you
would want to try and avoid it. We're all covered
with let's face it, we're all covered with a thin
layer of poop, and it's just a matter of how
thick you're let some people's layer is thicker than others,
you know. Uh. And that's why we describe the route
of transmission as fecal oral, meaning that you somebody touches
(20:23):
that area and then maybe they prepare food and now
you put that food in your mouth, or somebody goes
use the restroom and then you shake hands with them
and then you feed yourself with that hand. That's how
this stuff is transmitted. So the close con sexual contact
is even closer. And of course you're going to have
if you have an infectious diarrheal, you know, situation going
(20:46):
on that that can be transmitted.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, and you described all the medical stuff, they go
right way past that and talk about the sexual esk
phase involved when someone.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Has a little and we could get you to say
all those words you know what, and.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's and it's legit. By the way, this is in
a CDC document. I originally thought that this was a hoax.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It was Steve Gregory that first reported on this, and
we thought it was a hoax. Or I did, and
I had and go look it up. Uh, if you
go to the website, they go even further than this.
I mean it is a porno site.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
When they described this stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Hey Bill, when uh former President Trump was shot in
the ear afterwards when he got up, what did he
thrust in the air, oh, Neil, what was.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Let me, Yeah, no, I understand. Let me let me
see what the seed. Let me see what the CDC
has to say about this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Ye when when they said, if you like pointed at
a suspect and you said, this suspect is the one?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What is that called?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
When you, oh.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Neil, you can do this? And do you remember the suspect?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Okay, do you remember?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It was Harry Harry Truman, the placard on his desk.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Remember the fifth stops here? No, I mean, never mind. Okay, See,
I told you we were going to go down that role.
I knew we were going to go down that alley,
the wormhole of a tire.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It's not the tire.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Anyway, Jim, I had to bring you aboard because in
the end, in the end, this is a legitimate medical issue.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And uh uh is it? It's is it? Scene? Often
in the er?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Uh? Well, you know, we don't necessarily know how the
person got Schagela or other bacterial illnesses, but very very
common reason for people to come to the ear.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Did you do you ever ask Yeah, well, I mean if.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
We asked social history. As far as I don't know
how honest people are, but we do ask a social history,
you know, related to you know, all all these type
of things, smoking, drinking, sexual contact, all of it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, and do you ever when they tell you, do
you ever sort of shake your heads and you know.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Click a lot. No. No. Because you're a doctor. Because
you're a doctor, Jim.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You get to hear a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's true, that's true. Well, we talked about a friend
of mine. Yeah, my friend who went to medical school
and went to high school with her. She and her
er had a museum of what they pulled out of uh,
you know people.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, yeah, those are always good.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's a lot of conversation. Jim. Thank you, thanks for
putting up with this and being part of this. I
appreciate this absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, we'll talk again next week. All right, guys, we're done.
Tomorrow morning, five am wake up call with Amy and
then Neil and No, Neil's gone tomorrow, so it'll be
just Amy and I doing.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Neil's gone. Neil's taking a day off tomorrow. Oh, Amy,
you're gonna hate where I'm going. You're going to Disneyland,
aren't Yeah, that's off to Disneyland? Why not? Okay, guys,
we'll catch in the morning.
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And this is KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here
on a Wednesday morning, August seventh, Harris Vice President Harris
yesterday announced her pick for her vice president nomination, that
is Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Seven o'clock this morning. I did a segment on it.
Very interesting guy as.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Good choice first, sort of up in the air after
that rally, I said, that is a good choice.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
And so you can listen to that segment on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Also, my podcast, the Bill Handle Show, podcasts every Tuesday
and Thursday at nine o clock on the iHeartRadio app
or Spotify Apple. I mean, it's all over the place,
so I won't listen to it, so I have no
idea how it sounds like. So people describe it on
Instagram at Bill Handle Show, and it's kind of fun
(00:57):
seeing how many people hate it. You know, it's my
normal listenership, And thank you for hating it, because I
really enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
As you can imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now, presidential politics for a moment and inflation, inflation is
going to be a big, big part of the political run.
The inflation, well, Donald Trump had said and part of
his campaign is we are in the worst inflationary period
(01:27):
in our history, which of course is not true, and
it is it's never been as bad. Well, inflation is
under control, but it's only been under control for a
few months or a year.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We still think of inflation because it is baked in.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We don't think that, gee, restaurant prices haven't gone up
in several months.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
We think they have gone up, and they have.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And the fact that prices have evened out moderated.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Who cares.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
All we know is I go when I go to Carls,
which I won't do anymore. I've done once in the
last twenty years. All I know is I went in
there and I paid for a cheeseburger, fries and a
soda eighteen dollars for a fast fool food meal. Now,
(02:20):
if I go in six months from now and it's
eighteen bucks, you think I'm going to think, oh, this
is moderated, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Not so bad.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Or a year from now when it's eighteen dollars. The
reality is the price hasn't gone up. The reality is
it went up so quickly because inflation was at nine
percent per year, and that was during the Biden administration
and nine percent per year is expensive, It is insane.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Those are high numbers.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Now, we've had periods where it was seventeen eighteen percent.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I remember doing the Carter year. It was that high.
After World War One.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
After World War Two, the inflation rate was astronomical, nothing
like nine percent. But after Jimmy Carter, and that was
a lot of years ago, inflation just didn't go up.
And then we had for a whole period of time
for two percent inflation.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I mean, that's nothing. And then all of a sudden
it hits US.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Pandemic really nailed us, it was and no one was buying.
So right after the pandemic goes away. Guess what happens,
Boom the demand is there. It becomes astronomical. Prices go
up like crazy. Did wages go up, Yes, they went up.
Did they keep up with inflation for a small period
of time. And so what we have here is at
(03:49):
the heart of what's going on in our economy right
now is really the inflation fight, where that's one of
the big issues.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We're in the third year of this fire, and.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's widening, the split, widening, the split of whom the
haves and the have nots. The wealthy always do better
and they're affected by inflation. But you know what, not
so much, not nearly as much as the middle class
or the poor, who are nailed by inflation and particularly
(04:27):
and this is the big one, housing costs. If you've
got a pile of money and the cost of housing
goes up even twenty percent, okay, you know what, you
suck it up. I mean, it's not as much fun.
You're gonna do some stretching. But if housing goes up
twenty percent, so many people are just out of the market.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They can't afford it. And that's not just the housing.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So what I'm gonna do is I'm to come back
in a moment and go through more of this, and
I'm going to come back and revisit what I just said,
or what Neil and I just talked about, how this
is not a fun place America, particularly southern California, to
be poor, and inflation has nailed a lot of people,
(05:20):
particularly after a period of which people actually had more
money than they've ever had. I'm talking about the money
coming in from the pandemic, and you couldn't spend any money,
and you were getting money from the Feds they were
throwing money at us.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
They were throwing money at businesses. I know businesses who.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Shut down during the pandemic, and we're making more money
not doing business doing business than they were ever before
or after they reopened up after the pandemic. And I
want to continue on with inflation at the center of
they have and have nots fight. And as the reason
(06:04):
I bring up inflation because that's going to be a big,
big part of presidential politics coming up until November, and
the attack on Kamala Harris is going to be And
you heard this that inflation from Trump and from J. D.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Vans.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
This inflation is the worst that it's ever been in
the history of the United States. Not true, but that's
besides the point. Inflation actually is under control, little high,
but it's under control. But it doesn't matter because inflation
is already baked in. We've been hit by it. We've
been hit big time. So it has truly damaged where
it was damaging Biden's re election campaign. Frankly, I thought
(06:43):
that was the most vulnerable part of his campaign. And
of course he's gone. So now you have Vice President
Kamala Harris and she is going to broadly pitch his
economic policies, which you're going to see the Republican and
Trump doing is saying, you effectively have Joe Biden in
(07:05):
a skirt in terms of economic policy. And it looks
like that's true. That is I think going to be
and is a legitimate attack. Inflation did happen. Now, keep
in mind that presidents have very little to do with inflation.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I mean, there is some influence, but not that much. Also,
the FED ris raising interest rates. Presidents have nothing to
do with that. The FED is completely autonomous.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
They make the decision as to where interest rates are
going to go.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But then a gorse during the course of a presidential race,
everybody conflates everything. So when things go south across the board,
the president gets to blame. And when things go north
and things are well, the president takes the credit. Doesn't
matter whether the president had anything to do with it.
When things are good, it was me, I'm the one
(08:01):
that did it. And when things are bad, it's those
guys over there. And either way, it's those guys over there. Frankly,
So what is going on? Well, the economy continues to
defy expectations.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
We've been waiting for the slow down.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Now, for years, the US job creation the machine has
boosted wages outpacing inflation. I mean, you look at what
happened with the meltdown a couple of days ago, and
it's come back, or it is coming back. And that
is because all of a sudden the economy is starting
to cool down, and oh what's going on with this?
(08:42):
That becomes a problem. Now here is the issue. Who
gets hurt? The middle class and the poor get hurt
the worst. Now, during the pandemic, things were pretty good.
Government was plowing money into people's accounts and businesses and
there was nowhere to spend them money. Well that's all
gone for the most part, for the middle class and
(09:06):
the poor, lower middle.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Class, it's gone.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
People have gone through it and now what Well, they
can work, but they don't have the money and they're.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Spending too much.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Because here's what happens when you come back from a
period if you can't spend, is you start spending like crazy.
This is why, as I said, the attack on Biden
that it's the worst inflationary period in history is simply
not true. It did hit nine percent, which is very high,
But as I said, we had times after World War Two,
(09:40):
for example, and a World War One and went to
a piece economy after During World War two, you couldn't
buy a car, you couldn't buy pots and pans, you
couldn't buy a refrigerator because everything had gone over the
war economy. They were making tanks and ammunition, military vehicles, planes,
that's where all the factories were doing. Okay, people are
(10:03):
saving because wages were good. Everybody was working, and all
of a sudden, people have a pile of money and
they start buying like crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And guess what happens when.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The demand is that high and you're moving back into production, Well,
inflation goes berserk. That's when we had seventeen eighteen percent inflation.
And that's what happened after the pandemic. And now that
has calmed.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Down, we're back to normal. And in the end, what
do we have.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
We have prices that have moderated, have flattened out for
the most part, but they went up so high. We're
still looking at eighteen dollars at a Carls Junior for
a burger, fize at a drink, and when you go to
a restaurant, you can't believe how high prices are and
neil restaurants. Even when costs go crazy, they hold off
(10:51):
as long as they can to raise their prices until
they just can't take it anymore. So when you see
a restaurant, for example, raising its price six months ago
last month, it's not because prices inflation has just gone up.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
It's because they held off.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
No, they wait. They wait and wait and wait because
they don't want to push that on to the customer
if they don't have to.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Right, So what's going on?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Well, the wealthier doing fine businesses are I'm talking about
big business investments, major corporations making money handover fist people
who invest, so those businesses are getting dividends handover fist
the average worker salaries. They flattened out there. It was
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But the trick is.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
To own big businesses or to be shareholders and not
be a working stiff.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
But that was the secret before all this happened, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And the answer to being poor always the same answer,
get rich, and that cures everything, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yep? Okay, coming up, doctor Jim.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Keeney, and I am, well, I'm gonna do a couple
of things that are our normal kinds of conversations, which
I think are important. But at eight fifty, I'm gonna
do something that I have never ever done in forty
years broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Is it forty years? No? Thirty seven? Thirty seven years?
What is I first spoke on a microphone nineteen eighty five?
So what is that? Is that thirty seven years? I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Is it thirty nine years now? Nineteen eighty five? To
oh yeah, yeah, thirty nine years? Good God. I think
I'm gonna go in the other room and collapse. You know,
I'm gonna take a break and change my diaper.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Okay. Now, doctor Jim Keeney, who.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Is our medical expert, extraordinary and our can Sultan to
the medical world.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Good morning Jim, Good morning Bill. Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
And before I do that, I also want to point
out next segment with Jim, I am going to do
something I have not done in thirty nine years of broadcasting.
From the moment I opened my mouth behind a mic,
I have never ever done this.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So and Jim's going to be part of it. So
I'm very excited.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Jim.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Okay, I'm here, yes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now, one of the big stories about the Olympics is
the transgender issue.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It was the boxer I.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Think it was the Hungarian or Slovenian boxer who was
a man became a woman, big, tall, very powerful, won
a boxing match against the Italian who lasted forty six
seconds and bailed out, and it was just crazy. But
again the issue of transgenderosity transgenderiosity came up. And the
(13:57):
argument has always been, if you take hormones, get you
take a lot of testosterone, or you take progesterone, get
rid of the testosterone and you become more female, what
is that legitimately you becoming equivalent to a woman, or
do all the advantages other than.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
That still occur where it's basically unfair.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean lots of issues here, right because we're
not just talking about biology. We're talking about you know,
kind of socially and you know, people's rights and politically
and a lot of different issues wrapped up in these decisions.
And that's why it's so difficult. I mean, biologically it's easy.
(14:43):
There's clearly an advantage, no question, and so the studies
all show that even you know that right now, the
Olympics require one year of testosterone level really below at
a feminine you know, not at a mass DeLine range,
(15:03):
But there are studies that show that even after that
year of being a lower testosterone level, you're still going
to have a significant physical advantage. So no question there.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Okay, So let me ask you in terms of physical
advantage body mass, muscle mass, does that remain, if not
completely pretty significant. I'm assuming skeletal structure doesn't change, and
there are differences between male and female where it's just
you're more athletic if you're a male skeleton, if I.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Have that right, Yeah, no, it's for sure. So the
bone density is one issue and that really doesn't change
significantly once you go, once you go in the hormone
suppression from when you're going from male to female, and
then the same thing as muscle mass, they do lose
muscle mass as you as you switch and you suppress testosterone,
(15:59):
you're going to lose a lot of muscle mass, are
going to gain fatty tissue, and so that does change,
but it still gives a significant advantage with larger muscles,
stronger muscles, and then more you know, men tend to
have a higher hemoglobin level that will correct over time,
but still there's just it all adds together to be
(16:20):
differences and you know, when you're when you're watching things
in the Olympics, sometimes it comes down to, you know,
one one thousandth of a second between first place and
second place, and these things clearly give that kind of advantage.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Are you surprised that the International Olympic Committee and various
other sports agencies allow transgender athletes to cross the line.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
No, I don't, because I think that they're more focused
on the social and political aspects of it at this point,
because the science hasn't really caught up with it yet.
I mean, there definitely is science. It shows that you
know that there's an advantage, but I don't know that
you have a specific you know, something to point to
you to say, all right, at this, at this many
(17:08):
months or at this many years afterwards, you can participate
and not have a significant advantage. We don't have that
data yet. It's almost like, you know, Internet and AI
and everything else where things are progressing faster than our
knowledge base and our and our science behind it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That makes sense, by the way, in terms of weight
loss from male to female, I'm assuming depending on the size,
you can lose quite a bit of weight and having
your penis and the scrote removed, do.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I have that right.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I haven't looked at those studies.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Bill. Oh okay, I love doing that to you, Jim.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And as I said, I promoted this that I'm going
to do something that I have or not do something
that has never happened in all my years of broadcasting.
And we're still I'm talking about nineteen eighty five, the
first time I opened my mouth behind a mic and
tell you what it is. I am looking at an
official document from the CDC. This is a poster that
(18:08):
has been released, and I am refusing to state the
words on an official governmental document.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Because they can be so offensive.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, calendar this guy's usually I go the other way.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I am refusing to actually.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
State the words and read them to you. And it
is a placard, a poster that says attention, big letters,
and then under that is sort of a graphic of
two people in bed on pillows looking at each other
and it looks like just a sort of a graphic,
and then it read diarrheal infections can spread through sex.
(18:55):
And then comes the fun part contact with stuel parenthese
poop during oral or anal sex or during anal play.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
And then in parentheses the.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Description of what happens, which I am not going to read.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Okay, ready for that, I am not reading it. I'm refusing.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, go figure anyway during anal play and then
describing everything you can possibly do can lead to diarrheal infections,
protect yourself, protect your partner, wash hands, genitals and anus
before and after sex, use condoms, dental dams. Wait two
weeks after diarrhea to have sex. I mean, why don't
(19:40):
you just give up sex? I mean, that's so disgusting.
And it's about Shigella and Jim. There's why I want
to I don't want your opinion and your sex life
because we don't have to get into that.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Although I am interested. How big a deal with Shagela.
I mean, it is a real deal. It's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It makes people very sick, uh, And and so you
would want to try and avoid it. We're all covered
with let's face it, we're all covered with a thin
layer of poop, and it's just a matter of how
thick you're let some people's layer is thicker than others,
you know. Uh. And that's why we describe the route
of transmission as fecal oral, meaning that you somebody touches
(20:23):
that area and then maybe they prepare food and now
you put that food in your mouth, or somebody goes
use the restroom and then you shake hands with them
and then you feed yourself with that hand. That's how
this stuff is transmitted. So the close con sexual contact
is even closer. And of course you're going to have
if you have an infectious diarrheal, you know, situation going
(20:46):
on that that can be transmitted.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Okay, and you described all the medical stuff, they go
right way past that and talk about the sexual esk
phase involved when someone.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Has a little and we could get you to say
all those words you know what, and.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
It's and it's legit. By the way, this is in
a CDC document. I originally thought that this was a hoax.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It was Steve Gregory that first reported on this, and
we thought it was a hoax. Or I did, and
I had and go look it up. Uh, if you
go to the website, they go even further than this.
I mean it is a porno site.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
When they described this stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Hey Bill, when uh former President Trump was shot in
the ear afterwards when he got up, what did he
thrust in the air, oh, Neil, what was.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Let me, Yeah, no, I understand. Let me let me
see what the seed. Let me see what the CDC
has to say about this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Ye when when they said, if you like pointed at
a suspect and you said, this suspect is the one?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What is that called?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
When you, oh.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Neil, you can do this? And do you remember the suspect?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Okay, do you remember?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
It was Harry Harry Truman, the placard on his desk.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Remember the fifth stops here? No, I mean, never mind. Okay, See,
I told you we were going to go down that role.
I knew we were going to go down that alley,
the wormhole of a tire.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It's not the tire.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Anyway, Jim, I had to bring you aboard because in
the end, in the end, this is a legitimate medical issue.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And uh uh is it? It's is it? Scene? Often
in the er?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Uh? Well, you know, we don't necessarily know how the
person got Schagela or other bacterial illnesses, but very very
common reason for people to come to the ear.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Did you do you ever ask Yeah, well, I mean if.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
We asked social history. As far as I don't know
how honest people are, but we do ask a social history,
you know, related to you know, all all these type
of things, smoking, drinking, sexual contact, all of it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Okay, and do you ever when they tell you, do
you ever sort of shake your heads and you know.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Click a lot. No. No. Because you're a doctor. Because
you're a doctor, Jim.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You get to hear a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's true, that's true. Well, we talked about a friend
of mine. Yeah, my friend who went to medical school
and went to high school with her. She and her
er had a museum of what they pulled out of uh,
you know people.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, yeah, those are always good.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's a lot of conversation. Jim. Thank you, thanks for
putting up with this and being part of this. I
appreciate this absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, we'll talk again next week. All right, guys, we're done.
Tomorrow morning, five am wake up call with Amy and
then Neil and No, Neil's gone tomorrow, so it'll be
just Amy and I doing.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Neil's gone. Neil's taking a day off tomorrow. Oh, Amy,
you're gonna hate where I'm going. You're going to Disneyland,
aren't Yeah, that's off to Disneyland? Why not? Okay, guys,
we'll catch in the morning.
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