December 4, 2024 • 29 mins
Executives sucking up to trump now have to factor in the 'First Buddy'. Tulsi Gabbard: Trumps Pick for next director of national intelligence. Dr. Jim Keany - Chief Medical Officer for Dignity St Mary Medical Center in Long Beach joins the show to discuss A non-opioid pain killer, Weight loss drugs linked to decreased alcohol use, Belly fat linked to brain decay early signs of Alzheimers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Yeah, my mouth runs far quicker than does my brain.
And so that's always a lot of fun. It's the
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We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
All right, this is a story out of CNN cnn
dot com, so take consider where it came from. And
it's a story about Mark Zuckerberg, who at one point
was dissolution with politics.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He at once promoted and he was just over it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now let's just say he is trying to smooth over
his relationship with Donald Trump that has not been particularly good.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And now it's being reported that Zuck Sucker calls Zuck.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
For short, I calls him Zuck is angling for an
active role in shaping tech policy in the new administration,
basically setting himself up to work directly with the president
who recently threatened to jail.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Him for life.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, and that gets interesting, and his rival, working with
his rival Musk Elon Musk, who challenged him to a
cage match. I mean this gets really interesting to say
the least. Now, does he have much of a choice, Well,
a cage match, not so necessarily, but he doesn't have
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much choice but to lay it on and lay it
on thick with Donald Trump, as most of not only
political characters do, especially the Republicans. I mean you, the
sucking up to Trump is beyond anything I've ever seen.
He can destroy a political career with one post on
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True Social. There was a keep in mind, think of now,
how big is meta? Is Meta as a company? Right,
I'll tell you how big. It's a one point five
trillion dollar company. Trump says something on True Social, nailing
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it and the stock drops like a rock.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Does it come back?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But Trump has the ability to kill a career if
someone is a Republican with one post, he can destroy
business with one posts. I don't think we've ever seen
such power in a non president, in a non sitting president,
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he can do that. So what are you going to see?
Sucking up on a level that is almost impossible to
even understand. Well, you can understand it, but it's almost
beyond credulity, because Trump is going to be a president
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that we have never seen before. He is as much
a strong man as we've ever had. It's gonna be
a tough row to hoe or hoe to row or
hoes dealing with it. I've ever quite gotten that completely.
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So you're gonna see CEOs like Zuckerberg and Microsoft CEOs
and all of them sucking up.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And the other thing is, not only do they.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Have to suck up the Trump, they have to suck
up to Elon Musk because Musk is now Trump's best friend.
So all of a sudden, the executives who heretofore, you know,
stayed out of politics, right, not so much anymore. And
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now you're seeing the concept of you bend the knee
or you pray, no one notices if you say nothing.
And how do we know, well how many companies are
backtracking on diversity equity inclusion programs, a Trump staple. Last week,
Walmart said it's ending its employee training programs designed to
promote racial equity, equity out and evaluate funding for pride events. Now,
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a lot of people are saying, and I tend to
agree that these diversity, the pro gay rights not that
I'm not in favor of them, but it has gone
way too far.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It has. It's a pendulum, it really is.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
When you look at the Black Lives Matter and the
anti police movement after after the murder of George Floyd,
it you could see the pendulum swung too far. Now
are you hearing defund the police? Are you hearing disband
the police?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You are not.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
A few years ago, it was woke, woke, woke. That's disappearing.
I don't even know how really know how to pronounce
woke or define woke. I guess sort of, we know
it when we see It's like Justice Potter during the
early the early pornography cases in the seventies where First
Amendment rights were decided in favor basically of pornography, and
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Justice Potter wrote in one of the decisions, the majority
decisions advocating First Amendment rights. You know, I can't really
define pornography, but I know it when I see it,
and I think the same thing goes.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think when it comes to diversity programs that woke.
At what point do they go too far?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I really don't know, but uh, I know it when
I see it, and I think that's what's going on?
All right, I want to switch over to some of
the nominees again. I want to spend a little bit
of time talking about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'm having a great time talking about that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm being more fair. You have to admit I'm coming down.
I'm now coming back to reality and taught or Yeah. No,
I was pretty anti Trump. I'm not a big fan now.
But what I do is I took his statements as gospel, right,
and I didn't. I really didn't think his statements were gospel.
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And I'm now looking at it and trying to analyzeing.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, let's let's get real. We've got four years coming up.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, one of these segments that I want to do
that is still kind of nuts is coming up in
that At the bottom of the hour, we'll go to
doctor Jim Katy.
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It's a hum day, all right. What are we looking at?
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Oh, Pastathon, let's talk about that for a moment.
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A report.
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As of ten pm last night, the numbers were Pastathon,
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about one hundred thousand dollars over where we were same
time last year, and about eighty thousand pounds of pasta
and sauce, so that's forty tons. We hit fifty tons
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the pasta sauce return to the shells.
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Speaker 2 (09:36):
And that's this of ten.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
O'clock last night, and I don't want to wake up
Michelle to get the last numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Michelle worked twenty hours yesterday to putting this thing together
and running it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So Michelle does that every year. Okay, real quickly, and
I wish I had more time. But this has to
do with another cabinet pick. Now you know that Matt
Gates is gone, Pete Hegswith is probably going to be
gone as Defense secretary. And now we have a pick
of Tulci Gabbard who has been picked as head of
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National Intelligence.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And she is not going to make it either.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oversight of eighteen intelligence agencies, no, oversight of coordination between
US intelligence communities.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And foreign governments.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What has been the.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Response in Washington among the security people. We're not happy
with it. No, it's a bad choice. How about this one?
Utter panic is what's going on? One of the things
that Trump is doing and I don't know, really know
the motivation is He's throwing people up there for cabinet position,
for Senate confirmation, needed positions that are just insane. It's
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all a question of loyalty. I mean, what's her experience.
She is Fox News contributor. She ran for Congress in Hawaii, lost,
an Iraq war veteran, a very well decorated one, a
staunch critic of US foreign policy. Yeah, was a surrogate
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for Bernie Sanders twenty sixteen presidential campaign and then switched
sides and became a staunch, staunch Megaite and Trump's supporter.
And she just wants the United States to get out
of everything we do internationally. She formally joined the Republican Party,
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was a Trump rallies, offering praise for his diplomacy. America first,
get out of any involvement with foreign foreign interests, but not.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Just get out.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
She has said publicly that the invasion of Ukraine is
Joe Biden's fault. He starred the invasion. Putin is innocent.
He was simply defending his interests. Now there's a little
bit more of that, and that's the push that Ukraine
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wanted to join NATO. The United States was not pushing
for that, and therefore Putin, in response to that, invaded
Ukraine and Joe Biden somehow is to blame.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
She's close to Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Matter of fact, during the twenty twenty presidential campaign, she
was a favorite of the Russian propaganda machine. A month
into her run, there were twenty Gabbard related stories on
three major Moscow based English language website. She used her
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platform to, in fact promote Russian interests, unflitching support for
the Israel campaign in Gaza, which allowed us are going
to say you betcha. And Western leaders have failed to
defeat this threat because they refuse to acknowledge it must
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be defeated ideologically and militarily. I think the United States
has said that backing up Israel on that one. The
issue with the United States has was with Israel is
the humanitarian aid and the utter destruction of every building
in Gaza, which, by the way, I'm fine with. The
problem is national security and doesn't believe, does not believe
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in any of our security apparatus, the national security agencies.
The Pentagon has one, certainly, you've.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Got the national security agencies in and.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Of themselves all have There're seventeen agencies that deal with
national security.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
She has said they are all part of the deep state.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And they must be either making a part or completely
redone with loyalists. I gotta tell you if I think
she's gonna have a hard time in the Senate in
the confirmation.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now, there will be people.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There are Republicans out there who have said public it
does not matter who Trump nominates, doesn't matter whatever his
choice is.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We are backing, we are.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Voting for that person, no matter what. We don't even
need Senate hearings. Let's just vote right now. Yes, yes, yes.
If Charles Manson were alive and he was named attorney general,
there are Republican there are Republican members, the Senate would go.
I am not going to argue with President Trump's choice.
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It is his choice, and it is a Senate's job
to confirm his choice, not to investigate, not to vote well,
to vote, certainly, not to vet. It is to confirm.
The Senate is simply an arm of the presidency.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's insane. It's insane. Okay that one.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
By the way, for those of you that are Trump
supporters who scream at me, refute this one.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, that one.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I want you to say, Oh, you're absolutely wrong. She
is qualified. Matt Gates is qualified. We want people who
have no experience as long as they're ideologically correct. Coming up,
doctor Jim Keiney, who is well. I'll tell you his credentials.
I always do to try to impress you. We have
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a couple of segments with Jim, and a lot of
it has to.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Do with fat. I love talking about fat brain decay. Alzheimer's.
I love talking about that too. We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
As We and the program on Wednesday, and we do
it every Wednesday with doctor Jim Keeney. Jim is the
chief medical officer for Dignity Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center
in Long Beach and a board certified er.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Doc Jim, Good morning, Good morning, Bill.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, we have some good news and we have some
bad news. Let's start with let me see if I
can make.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The good news bad news. You know, I just I
can't on this one. A non opioid pain killer.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now hopefully it is completely addictive and it will half
kill you or is that not the case?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, I mean we don't know yet, right. So the
theory is this is not a narcotic. Narcotics work by
altering you know, chemicals in your brain and they actually
create kind of a feedback where you enjoy that feeling,
and so that's what kind of is addicting. It impacts
the brain. This new substance is called souzetra gene is
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an investigational you know medicine right now, oral pain reliever
and it inhibits the sodium channels that transmit nerve impulses
before the brain, like at the peripheral nerves and in
the spinal cord, and so that theoretically should stop that
addictive nature that's created in the brain, but it also
blocks pain, So we don't know how effective it is.
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It's supposed to be comparable to oral opioids like you know,
hydro codone or you know vicodin, norco those type of medications,
but we'll see if this is.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
If it does pan out, this becomes a blockbuster, This
becomes along the lines of viagra, along the lines of
the opioids where Purdue you know, created OxyContin and just
I mean it was just billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I assume I'm right on that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I mean, you know, of course, those of us
who've been in the field for a while, we always
have this reservation, right because about twenty years ago there
was an inhaled pain reliever called penthros and that one
is also not a narcotic, and we thought this was
going to be the greatest thing ever. It works immediately,
it's you know, in Australia, it's currently used by ambulances
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and like sports teams where if you have an injury
and you need relief right away, the stuff works. It's
known as green Whistle. I don't know where it got
that name, but it also it seemed to at the
higher doses we were using twenty years ago, cause liver damage,
kidney damage, and so the FDA banned it in the
United States, but they've altered the formulation and they've used
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it at lower doses and in Australia they're using it.
So you know, you know, again, was that the opioid industry,
the pharmaceutical industry blocking this thing or was it really
that dangerous back then and now it's been improved. There's
a lot of ways. Is that something like this can
get tripped up before it gets to the patients.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, in terms of drug clearances, the FDA and Australia
has its equivalent of the FDA, and it's I'm assuming
Australia provides world class medicine, just the first world medical country.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
How do they do it? And the FDA says no.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
So yeah, they I don't know, you know, there's different regulations,
different ways that people look at things, and I think
in our country it sounds like this particular drug anyway
got banned early on, and the ability to reverse a
band is a lot of you know, there's a headwind
to that that you have to overcome, as opposed to
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maybe in a country in Australia where it wasn't banned
and it was just not approved, then they were able
to continue working with it, improve some efficacy and reduced
impact on patients. So again, and with this other drug
that we're and at the suzetro dene, you know, we
don't know yet. Maybe that'll have some side effects as
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it comes out that are going to be unacceptable and
people won't like. So we'll see. I mean, anytime a
new drug, gump comes out again, I reserve judgment on
it until we start seeing it in the population.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, one of the stories about drugs being okay and
the FDA in their version of the FDA in Europe
allowed poldimide to be used right and pregnant women.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I mean, there are still people around that have.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
These very shortened limbs where you know, I was about
to make a horrible joke, by the way, I mean,
do I go there, Neil and make a horrible joke
about politimide victims. You know what. The minute you ask
me is like one of my brothers saying, Hey, smell this.
I want no part of it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Leave me out of this, all right, Jim, I'll tell you,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'll tell you the joke at the at the break,
and you tell me if you're offended by that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, that sounds good, Yeah it does Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And by the way, Pelinimide was okayed for use for
I think it was a headache or a painkiller or
whatever it was. And pregnant women who took it, the
children were born deformed, severely deformed. And I think there
was one person in the FDA that shut it down,
one who said I'm not letting this in. And it
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saved a whole lot of people's well, a whole lot
of deformed otherwise would be deformed kids not being deformed. Okay,
we're gonna come back. I'm gonna tell Jim the joke,
So keep me going with Jim. And then weight loss
drugs they really be maybe a miracle drug, don't know.
We'll finish it up with that and a couple other
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things with Jim Kinney.
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Looking at the store R Supreme Court diving into the
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on gender affirming care for minors, and the court is
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That's not what it's.
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About, all right, Back we go to doctor Jim Keeney
where we have medical news every Wednesday. Jim, I'm looking
at a story about waste weight loss drugs, and every
single week it seems to be that they're doing more
and more.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
To help people.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I mean, this is beyond a magic bullet. This could
actually be the kind of snake oil that they sold
at the turn of the century or last century that
cured everything. Except this may not be snake oil. Oh
we know it's not snake oil. I mean it is
Is it that good?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah? I mean last time we saw something like this
was statins, where they seem to you know, they reduce
your cholesterol, they reduce your chancel stroke, they reduce your
chance of heart attack, and it just went on on on,
and of course, you know, as we went on with those,
we learn more about some side effects that might limit
your use. But again also these you know, drugs that
seem to treat multiple things. But yeah, so this has
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been I've heard whispers of this for a while now,
and the studies are now starting to come out to
confirm it, which is that these weight loss drugs that
seem to reduce your cravings for food also seem to
reduce cravings for other things. So I don't really know
where this is going to end. Right now. They're saying
that it reduces alcohol use because people are reporting that
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when they're on weight loss programs, but I bet you
people are not reporting drug use in those settings. And
I'm wondering if that's going to be the next thing,
right that it reduces cravings for certain drugs in addition
to alcohol. Who knows it might help you quit smoking.
We'll see what happens in the future. But it does
seem to you know, we have the satiety center in
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our brain where we feel satisfied, and I think that's
the little trigger that tickles your brain when you use
certain substances like alcohol, tobacco, or other drugs, and this
seems to be impacting that that feedback center that makes
you crave those things.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And statins have become well, virtually everybody I know who's
ever had a risk for heart cholesterol issues is taking statin.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I'm certainly taking a statin.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, I mean, they talked about creating a pill, especially
in Europe. They were they were thinking about making this
over the counter that was low dose asprian low dose
beta blockers and low dose statin, so that people if
they wanted to reduce their risk for heart attacks and
stroke to just grab this and take it over the counter.
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But you know, that hasn't really taken on in the US.
I don't know that it's really taken on in Europe.
You know, it's really caught on in Europe. So, but
but you're right, there's there's these kind of drugs just
seem to have a life of their own.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know, I think you try and avoid taking medications
when at all possible. Uh, and that's sometimes it's not possible.
Or you know, you try and address these issues of
heart attack, stroke and weight loss using more natural methods.
But if that's not working for you, we do have options.
And for a lot of people that's not working for them.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, I'm thinking low dose aspirin and the state and
all you have to do is add sidentophil, viagra, generic viagra,
andnox monoxidant or monoxophill and you cover all the bases.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, I mean we're a pill popping society and that definitely,
you know, hits all the triggers.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
All right, talking about fat, we're going to end it
with this belly fat. We've talked about belly fat not
being particularly healthy for you.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And now that goes on. This is exactly the.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Opposite of the weight loss drugs, and that is belly
fat now linked to brain decay and early signs of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, So this is not just no belly fat, right.
So we all have subcutaneous fat, and that's the primary
fat that you see when you look at somebody who
is overweight or even just a normal person, the smoothness
of their skin is created by subcutaneous fat. That does
cause the more fat you have under your skin and
in your body, the more inflammation you have. But visceral fat,
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which is the fat that surrounds your organs, it's not
the fat you're looking at. It's a little bit harder
to detect. It does correlate. I mean, if you're overweight
and you have a large waste circumference, you probably have
a lot of visceral fat. But that fat is much
more inflammatory. It's much more active hormonally, and it's much
more disruptive to your metabolic system. So we know it
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creates inflammation. We think that it's the inflammation created by
that visceral fat. It's also creating inflammation in the blood
vessels at your brain, which lay down all these proteins
that are precursors for Alzheimer's disease. And ultimately, now in
this study they're showing becomes Alzheimer's disease. So you know
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that that's kind of the linkage. But it may be
something else. It may be that that visceral fat is
impacting your metabolic state or hormonally and that's creating the Alzheimer's.
We don't know exactly what the link is, but there
is an association there that if you have a high
belly fat, you have a much higher risk of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And how do you find out?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, as you said, looking at fat, If someone's fat,
you just poke and your finger bows in. But you're
talking about fat around the organs. Is it easy to determine?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean from a medical standpoint, what doctors do is
they look at your waiste circumference and they say, look,
you've got to your waist is bigger than your shoulders.
That's that's not a good ratio. So let's try and
get that more in line. For research what they do
as an MRI, and the MRI can show you know,
different densities based on water content, typically will show you
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what things are. And then an MRI fat has no
water in it and so it's very easy to see.
And then they can use programs to calculate the total
volume that they're seeing on the MRI of fat. And
that's how they do it in research.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, Jim, thank you always, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
We'll catch you again next Wednesday. Take care.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hey all right, doctor Jim Keiney, chief medical Officer for
Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. I said, guys,
we're done. Wednesday is done. We're back again tomorrow. Amy
starts at five am, Neil and I join up at
six and we go right till just about now. And
so also a big thank you to Ann and Kono
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who is not here. Elmer, we have you for one
more day, right, excellent, all right, let's do it.
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My mouth runs.
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We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
All right, this is a story out of CNN cnn
dot com, so take consider where it came from. And
it's a story about Mark Zuckerberg, who at one point
was dissolution with politics.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He at once promoted and he was just over it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now let's just say he is trying to smooth over
his relationship with Donald Trump that has not been particularly good.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And now it's being reported that Zuck Sucker calls Zuck.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
For short, I calls him Zuck is angling for an
active role in shaping tech policy in the new administration,
basically setting himself up to work directly with the president
who recently threatened to jail.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Him for life.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, and that gets interesting, and his rival, working with
his rival Musk Elon Musk, who challenged him to a
cage match. I mean this gets really interesting to say
the least. Now, does he have much of a choice, Well,
a cage match, not so necessarily, but he doesn't have
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much choice but to lay it on and lay it
on thick with Donald Trump, as most of not only
political characters do, especially the Republicans. I mean you, the
sucking up to Trump is beyond anything I've ever seen.
He can destroy a political career with one post on
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True Social. There was a keep in mind, think of now,
how big is meta? Is Meta as a company? Right,
I'll tell you how big. It's a one point five
trillion dollar company. Trump says something on True Social, nailing
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it and the stock drops like a rock.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Does it come back?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But Trump has the ability to kill a career if
someone is a Republican with one post, he can destroy
business with one posts. I don't think we've ever seen
such power in a non president, in a non sitting president,
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he can do that. So what are you going to see?
Sucking up on a level that is almost impossible to
even understand. Well, you can understand it, but it's almost
beyond credulity, because Trump is going to be a president
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that we have never seen before. He is as much
a strong man as we've ever had. It's gonna be
a tough row to hoe or hoe to row or
hoes dealing with it. I've ever quite gotten that completely.
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So you're gonna see CEOs like Zuckerberg and Microsoft CEOs
and all of them sucking up.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And the other thing is, not only do they.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Have to suck up the Trump, they have to suck
up to Elon Musk because Musk is now Trump's best friend.
So all of a sudden, the executives who heretofore, you know,
stayed out of politics, right, not so much anymore. And
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now you're seeing the concept of you bend the knee
or you pray, no one notices if you say nothing.
And how do we know, well how many companies are
backtracking on diversity equity inclusion programs, a Trump staple. Last week,
Walmart said it's ending its employee training programs designed to
promote racial equity, equity out and evaluate funding for pride events. Now,
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a lot of people are saying, and I tend to
agree that these diversity, the pro gay rights not that
I'm not in favor of them, but it has gone
way too far.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It has. It's a pendulum, it really is.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
When you look at the Black Lives Matter and the
anti police movement after after the murder of George Floyd,
it you could see the pendulum swung too far. Now
are you hearing defund the police? Are you hearing disband
the police?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
You are not.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
A few years ago, it was woke, woke, woke. That's disappearing.
I don't even know how really know how to pronounce
woke or define woke. I guess sort of, we know
it when we see It's like Justice Potter during the
early the early pornography cases in the seventies where First
Amendment rights were decided in favor basically of pornography, and
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Justice Potter wrote in one of the decisions, the majority
decisions advocating First Amendment rights. You know, I can't really
define pornography, but I know it when I see it,
and I think the same thing goes.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I think when it comes to diversity programs that woke.
At what point do they go too far?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I really don't know, but uh, I know it when
I see it, and I think that's what's going on?
All right, I want to switch over to some of
the nominees again. I want to spend a little bit
of time talking about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I'm having a great time talking about that.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I'm being more fair. You have to admit I'm coming down.
I'm now coming back to reality and taught or Yeah. No,
I was pretty anti Trump. I'm not a big fan now.
But what I do is I took his statements as gospel, right,
and I didn't. I really didn't think his statements were gospel.
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And I'm now looking at it and trying to analyzeing.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, let's let's get real. We've got four years coming up.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, one of these segments that I want to do
that is still kind of nuts is coming up in
that At the bottom of the hour, we'll go to
doctor Jim Katy.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
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It's a hum day, all right. What are we looking at?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Oh, Pastathon, let's talk about that for a moment.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
A report.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
As of ten pm last night, the numbers were Pastathon,
we had raised nine hundred and forty five thousand dollars
about one hundred thousand dollars over where we were same
time last year, and about eighty thousand pounds of pasta
and sauce, so that's forty tons. We hit fifty tons
last year, so we're a little behind on that, but
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I haad of last year in terms of money. And
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You'll see a video of me filling up a shopping cart,
going through the checkout, and of course then having all
the pasta sauce return to the shells.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
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Speaker 1 (09:16):
To any Wendy's five dollars donation or more a coupon
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go to the website and you can do that, and
that's Pastathon. Our pastathon website is kfiam six forty dot
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Speaker 2 (09:36):
And that's this of ten.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
O'clock last night, and I don't want to wake up
Michelle to get the last numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Michelle worked twenty hours yesterday to putting this thing together
and running it.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So Michelle does that every year. Okay, real quickly, and
I wish I had more time. But this has to
do with another cabinet pick. Now you know that Matt
Gates is gone, Pete Hegswith is probably going to be
gone as Defense secretary. And now we have a pick
of Tulci Gabbard who has been picked as head of
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National Intelligence.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And she is not going to make it either.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Oversight of eighteen intelligence agencies, no, oversight of coordination between
US intelligence communities.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And foreign governments.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What has been the.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Response in Washington among the security people. We're not happy
with it. No, it's a bad choice. How about this one?
Utter panic is what's going on? One of the things
that Trump is doing and I don't know, really know
the motivation is He's throwing people up there for cabinet position,
for Senate confirmation, needed positions that are just insane. It's
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all a question of loyalty. I mean, what's her experience.
She is Fox News contributor. She ran for Congress in Hawaii, lost,
an Iraq war veteran, a very well decorated one, a
staunch critic of US foreign policy. Yeah, was a surrogate
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for Bernie Sanders twenty sixteen presidential campaign and then switched
sides and became a staunch, staunch Megaite and Trump's supporter.
And she just wants the United States to get out
of everything we do internationally. She formally joined the Republican Party,
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was a Trump rallies, offering praise for his diplomacy. America first,
get out of any involvement with foreign foreign interests, but not.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Just get out.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
She has said publicly that the invasion of Ukraine is
Joe Biden's fault. He starred the invasion. Putin is innocent.
He was simply defending his interests. Now there's a little
bit more of that, and that's the push that Ukraine
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wanted to join NATO. The United States was not pushing
for that, and therefore Putin, in response to that, invaded
Ukraine and Joe Biden somehow is to blame.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
She's close to Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Matter of fact, during the twenty twenty presidential campaign, she
was a favorite of the Russian propaganda machine. A month
into her run, there were twenty Gabbard related stories on
three major Moscow based English language website. She used her
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platform to, in fact promote Russian interests, unflitching support for
the Israel campaign in Gaza, which allowed us are going
to say you betcha. And Western leaders have failed to
defeat this threat because they refuse to acknowledge it must
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be defeated ideologically and militarily. I think the United States
has said that backing up Israel on that one. The
issue with the United States has was with Israel is
the humanitarian aid and the utter destruction of every building
in Gaza, which, by the way, I'm fine with. The
problem is national security and doesn't believe, does not believe
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in any of our security apparatus, the national security agencies.
The Pentagon has one, certainly, you've.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Got the national security agencies in and.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Of themselves all have There're seventeen agencies that deal with
national security.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
She has said they are all part of the deep state.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
And they must be either making a part or completely
redone with loyalists. I gotta tell you if I think
she's gonna have a hard time in the Senate in
the confirmation.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now, there will be people.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
There are Republicans out there who have said public it
does not matter who Trump nominates, doesn't matter whatever his
choice is.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We are backing, we are.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Voting for that person, no matter what. We don't even
need Senate hearings. Let's just vote right now. Yes, yes, yes.
If Charles Manson were alive and he was named attorney general,
there are Republican there are Republican members, the Senate would go.
I am not going to argue with President Trump's choice.
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It is his choice, and it is a Senate's job
to confirm his choice, not to investigate, not to vote well,
to vote, certainly, not to vet. It is to confirm.
The Senate is simply an arm of the presidency.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's insane. It's insane. Okay that one.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
By the way, for those of you that are Trump
supporters who scream at me, refute this one.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Okay, that one.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I want you to say, Oh, you're absolutely wrong. She
is qualified. Matt Gates is qualified. We want people who
have no experience as long as they're ideologically correct. Coming up,
doctor Jim Keiney, who is well. I'll tell you his credentials.
I always do to try to impress you. We have
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a couple of segments with Jim, and a lot of
it has to.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Do with fat. I love talking about fat brain decay. Alzheimer's.
I love talking about that too. We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
As We and the program on Wednesday, and we do
it every Wednesday with doctor Jim Keeney. Jim is the
chief medical officer for Dignity Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center
in Long Beach and a board certified er.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Doc Jim, Good morning, Good morning, Bill.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, we have some good news and we have some
bad news. Let's start with let me see if I
can make.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
The good news bad news. You know, I just I
can't on this one. A non opioid pain killer.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Now hopefully it is completely addictive and it will half
kill you or is that not the case?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, I mean we don't know yet, right. So the
theory is this is not a narcotic. Narcotics work by
altering you know, chemicals in your brain and they actually
create kind of a feedback where you enjoy that feeling,
and so that's what kind of is addicting. It impacts
the brain. This new substance is called souzetra gene is
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an investigational you know medicine right now, oral pain reliever
and it inhibits the sodium channels that transmit nerve impulses
before the brain, like at the peripheral nerves and in
the spinal cord, and so that theoretically should stop that
addictive nature that's created in the brain, but it also
blocks pain, So we don't know how effective it is.
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It's supposed to be comparable to oral opioids like you know,
hydro codone or you know vicodin, norco those type of medications,
but we'll see if this is.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
If it does pan out, this becomes a blockbuster, This
becomes along the lines of viagra, along the lines of
the opioids where Purdue you know, created OxyContin and just
I mean it was just billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I assume I'm right on that.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, I mean, you know, of course, those of us
who've been in the field for a while, we always
have this reservation, right because about twenty years ago there
was an inhaled pain reliever called penthros and that one
is also not a narcotic, and we thought this was
going to be the greatest thing ever. It works immediately,
it's you know, in Australia, it's currently used by ambulances
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and like sports teams where if you have an injury
and you need relief right away, the stuff works. It's
known as green Whistle. I don't know where it got
that name, but it also it seemed to at the
higher doses we were using twenty years ago, cause liver damage,
kidney damage, and so the FDA banned it in the
United States, but they've altered the formulation and they've used
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it at lower doses and in Australia they're using it.
So you know, you know, again, was that the opioid industry,
the pharmaceutical industry blocking this thing or was it really
that dangerous back then and now it's been improved. There's
a lot of ways. Is that something like this can
get tripped up before it gets to the patients.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, in terms of drug clearances, the FDA and Australia
has its equivalent of the FDA, and it's I'm assuming
Australia provides world class medicine, just the first world medical country.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
How do they do it? And the FDA says no.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
So yeah, they I don't know, you know, there's different regulations,
different ways that people look at things, and I think
in our country it sounds like this particular drug anyway
got banned early on, and the ability to reverse a
band is a lot of you know, there's a headwind
to that that you have to overcome, as opposed to
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maybe in a country in Australia where it wasn't banned
and it was just not approved, then they were able
to continue working with it, improve some efficacy and reduced
impact on patients. So again, and with this other drug
that we're and at the suzetro dene, you know, we
don't know yet. Maybe that'll have some side effects as
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it comes out that are going to be unacceptable and
people won't like. So we'll see. I mean, anytime a
new drug, gump comes out again, I reserve judgment on
it until we start seeing it in the population.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Yeah, one of the stories about drugs being okay and
the FDA in their version of the FDA in Europe
allowed poldimide to be used right and pregnant women.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
I mean, there are still people around that have.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
These very shortened limbs where you know, I was about
to make a horrible joke, by the way, I mean,
do I go there, Neil and make a horrible joke
about politimide victims. You know what. The minute you ask
me is like one of my brothers saying, Hey, smell this.
I want no part of it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Leave me out of this, all right, Jim, I'll tell you,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
I'll tell you the joke at the at the break,
and you tell me if you're offended by that.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, that sounds good, Yeah it does Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And by the way, Pelinimide was okayed for use for
I think it was a headache or a painkiller or
whatever it was. And pregnant women who took it, the
children were born deformed, severely deformed. And I think there
was one person in the FDA that shut it down,
one who said I'm not letting this in. And it
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saved a whole lot of people's well, a whole lot
of deformed otherwise would be deformed kids not being deformed. Okay,
we're gonna come back. I'm gonna tell Jim the joke,
So keep me going with Jim. And then weight loss
drugs they really be maybe a miracle drug, don't know.
We'll finish it up with that and a couple other
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things with Jim Kinney.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
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Looking at the store R Supreme Court diving into the
issue of transgender rights. There's a challenge to Tennessee's ban
on gender affirming care for minors, and the court is
going to rule on that. Have no idea which way
they're going to go. Also, ask handle anything. We're going
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Speaker 2 (23:03):
That's not what it's.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
About, all right, Back we go to doctor Jim Keeney
where we have medical news every Wednesday. Jim, I'm looking
at a story about waste weight loss drugs, and every
single week it seems to be that they're doing more
and more.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
To help people.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I mean, this is beyond a magic bullet. This could
actually be the kind of snake oil that they sold
at the turn of the century or last century that
cured everything. Except this may not be snake oil. Oh
we know it's not snake oil. I mean it is
Is it that good?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah? I mean last time we saw something like this
was statins, where they seem to you know, they reduce
your cholesterol, they reduce your chancel stroke, they reduce your
chance of heart attack, and it just went on on on,
and of course, you know, as we went on with those,
we learn more about some side effects that might limit
your use. But again also these you know, drugs that
seem to treat multiple things. But yeah, so this has
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been I've heard whispers of this for a while now,
and the studies are now starting to come out to
confirm it, which is that these weight loss drugs that
seem to reduce your cravings for food also seem to
reduce cravings for other things. So I don't really know
where this is going to end. Right now. They're saying
that it reduces alcohol use because people are reporting that
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when they're on weight loss programs, but I bet you
people are not reporting drug use in those settings. And
I'm wondering if that's going to be the next thing,
right that it reduces cravings for certain drugs in addition
to alcohol. Who knows it might help you quit smoking.
We'll see what happens in the future. But it does
seem to you know, we have the satiety center in
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our brain where we feel satisfied, and I think that's
the little trigger that tickles your brain when you use
certain substances like alcohol, tobacco, or other drugs, and this
seems to be impacting that that feedback center that makes
you crave those things.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And statins have become well, virtually everybody I know who's
ever had a risk for heart cholesterol issues is taking statin.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I'm certainly taking a statin.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, I mean, they talked about creating a pill, especially
in Europe. They were they were thinking about making this
over the counter that was low dose asprian low dose
beta blockers and low dose statin, so that people if
they wanted to reduce their risk for heart attacks and
stroke to just grab this and take it over the counter.
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But you know, that hasn't really taken on in the US.
I don't know that it's really taken on in Europe.
You know, it's really caught on in Europe. So, but
but you're right, there's there's these kind of drugs just
seem to have a life of their own.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know, I think you try and avoid taking medications
when at all possible. Uh, and that's sometimes it's not possible.
Or you know, you try and address these issues of
heart attack, stroke and weight loss using more natural methods.
But if that's not working for you, we do have options.
And for a lot of people that's not working for them.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, I'm thinking low dose aspirin and the state and
all you have to do is add sidentophil, viagra, generic viagra,
andnox monoxidant or monoxophill and you cover all the bases.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, you're done.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, I mean we're a pill popping society and that definitely,
you know, hits all the triggers.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
All right, talking about fat, we're going to end it
with this belly fat. We've talked about belly fat not
being particularly healthy for you.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And now that goes on. This is exactly the.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Opposite of the weight loss drugs, and that is belly
fat now linked to brain decay and early signs of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, So this is not just no belly fat, right.
So we all have subcutaneous fat, and that's the primary
fat that you see when you look at somebody who
is overweight or even just a normal person, the smoothness
of their skin is created by subcutaneous fat. That does
cause the more fat you have under your skin and
in your body, the more inflammation you have. But visceral fat,
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which is the fat that surrounds your organs, it's not
the fat you're looking at. It's a little bit harder
to detect. It does correlate. I mean, if you're overweight
and you have a large waste circumference, you probably have
a lot of visceral fat. But that fat is much
more inflammatory. It's much more active hormonally, and it's much
more disruptive to your metabolic system. So we know it
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creates inflammation. We think that it's the inflammation created by
that visceral fat. It's also creating inflammation in the blood
vessels at your brain, which lay down all these proteins
that are precursors for Alzheimer's disease. And ultimately, now in
this study they're showing becomes Alzheimer's disease. So you know
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that that's kind of the linkage. But it may be
something else. It may be that that visceral fat is
impacting your metabolic state or hormonally and that's creating the Alzheimer's.
We don't know exactly what the link is, but there
is an association there that if you have a high
belly fat, you have a much higher risk of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And how do you find out?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean, as you said, looking at fat, If someone's fat,
you just poke and your finger bows in. But you're
talking about fat around the organs. Is it easy to determine?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean from a medical standpoint, what doctors do is
they look at your waiste circumference and they say, look,
you've got to your waist is bigger than your shoulders.
That's that's not a good ratio. So let's try and
get that more in line. For research what they do
as an MRI, and the MRI can show you know,
different densities based on water content, typically will show you
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what things are. And then an MRI fat has no
water in it and so it's very easy to see.
And then they can use programs to calculate the total
volume that they're seeing on the MRI of fat. And
that's how they do it in research.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
All right, Jim, thank you always, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
We'll catch you again next Wednesday. Take care.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Hey all right, doctor Jim Keiney, chief medical Officer for
Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach. I said, guys,
we're done. Wednesday is done. We're back again tomorrow. Amy
starts at five am, Neil and I join up at
six and we go right till just about now. And
so also a big thank you to Ann and Kono
(29:37):
who is not here. Elmer, we have you for one
more day, right, excellent, all right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
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