November 11, 2024 • 25 mins
Why did Latinos vote for Trump? Was music really better when you were younger? ‘Do They Have a Case’ with Wayne Resnick.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to bill handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
KFI AM six forty bill handle here. Oh yes, it's
a Monday morning, November eleventh.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
A couple of stories we're following.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Bitcoin hit eighty thousand dollars for a bitcoin. Now, when
bitcoin first came out, you could have bought a or
several bitcoins for a penny.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Good move.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Why CONO are you jumping up and down? You bought
bitcoin early on.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Not that early. I still work here, but I bought it.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Are you based them especially now? Yes? Wow, we used
to have someone.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Here that worked here bought it very early. And man,
he and his family are doing just fine. Oh right, okay,
starting let's go into politics for just a moment. And
here we're doing the Democrats are doing autopsies or an
auto about what happened and missing the vote completely. And
the question is how did Latinos vote for Trump?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I mean they moved into the Trump camp.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Substantially after the twenty twenty election where Biden won.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Now, Trump has called Latino migrants.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Rapists, murderers, drug dealers, They're taking over our jobs, They're
destroying America. At what are the final rallies at Madison
Square Garden. The comedian Forgot his Name describes Puerto Rico
as a floating island of garbage.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, okay, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Latinos are going to turn against him. Certainly Puerto Ricans done.
And that's another reason that Kamala Harris is going to win.
Wrongo Bongo exit pill exit polls showed that forty six
percent of Latinos voted for him, and among the Latino men,
fifty five percent voted for him, which is only a
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thirty percent up since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And how many of us.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Were baffled, How many pundits were baffled, how many Democrats
were baffled. How could Latinos, some of them whose family
members could be targeted by mass deportations, make this choice. Well,
let me make it real simple. It was a vote
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for capitalism. It was all about money, that's it. And
Trump's strongest argument was are you better off today than
you were when I was president?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I was president pre inflation, Look where you are now?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And inflation was being blamed directly on the Biden administration.
Because an administration takes all the blame no matter what happens,
a test takes the credit. Whether or not the administration
can can control whatever is going on. So let's talk
about American values for a moment and the American dream
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and the Puerto Ricans that came here and the immigrants
that came here. And if you look at the Statue
of Liberty, what does it say, right, we welcome the tired,
the poor, the huddled masses who yearn not particularly to
be free. Reality tells us it's to be rich. When
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you talk about the American dream, people who live the
American dream, how many times it is about the ability
to vote versus the ability to earn money and succeed
and make money. And the American dream is all about
money and finance. One of my best friends, Saville, who
Neil knows very very well, he always talks about he's
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living the American dream. America is the greatest country in
the world. And where why Well, of course, for freedom
and the ability to vote, et cetera, and our governance,
but it really more is about you have the ability
to start a business, create wealth, and become rich. That
is the American dream. And that is what Trump in
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fact promoted, and it's sort of true because he says, look.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
At me, I'm a self made man. I am rich.
By the way. How many people think or believe or.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Take or give credit to his dad. He inherited a
huge real estate empire. Now granted that was in Brooklyn,
Long Island, and he's the one that did it in Manhattan.
So yeah, I mean he built the business, there's no
question about it. He created wealth, but he started very wealthy.
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He is not someone who came here from nothing and
grew it into a major business. He is the American dream,
except he really isn't. And the Latino vote is all
about or in many cases, the Latinos were all about
the American dream, and he is the embodiment of it,
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even though he really isn't. He has done a phenomenal job.
He's going to cut taxes for the middle class. Let
me tell you, the middle class is going to get hit.
The tariffs are going to be great help to Americans
and the middle class.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
They're actually not.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Things are going to be much more expensive with high
tariffs coming in. I mean they are, and you'll see,
I mean, there's no way around that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But what the.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Democrats missed is the fact that Latinos, like many others,
are looking at money.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's the American dream.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
These immigrants come up across for financial reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Now, many of them come across just to eat.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And the American dream for illegal migration is simply to
feed a family.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So that's money on a very low level.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But as you go up the scale, Latinos who have
created businesses, who have gotten good jobs, who have in
fact created for their families, professional professionals, who in fact
earn a great deal of money. That's the American dream.
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And the Democrats miss that completely. They just blew it,
just like the last segment where I talked about the manosphere,
where the Democrats just missed it completely. Young white men
who live on the internet and they play games and
they talk to each other, and they are.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Just young guys just ranting and raving, and they.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Coordinate with each other, they program and they promote each other.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And the Democrats missed that completely.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
When you look at it, you see how brilliant Trump
was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It was his son Baron who convinced him to go
on some of these chats on some of these podcasts
run by.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Eighteen year old twenty two year.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Old white guys who have huge audiences. So the Latino vote.
I guess that worked surprised a lot of people. All right,
interesting article that I wanted to share with you, and
it really resonated with me when and brought it up.
And that's about music from our younger years. I mean,
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music used to be great, and for the most part,
back then it was better than today. I certainly leave
that that music when I was younger was much better.
And how many people can fill how many groups can
fill up a stadium?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Today? You've got Taylor Swift can fill a stadium? Who else?
The Eagles?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
What if they were ever going to get together? Right?
The Eagles?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Think of the groups that you would think that would
fill a stadium.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Today, the Beatles, the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But think of the only modern group or the only
modern act. The only modern person I can think of
is Taylor Swift. Who can sit seventy thousand people have
three performances to sell out?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Who else?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's oh damn?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, all right, Well that blows my entire segment here.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I got nothing. I got absolutely nothing. Okay, what we
talk about it instead? But there is a study out there.
I do want to point it out. And this is
part of me and a lot of people think, well,
maybe you do. Do you think music back then was
better when you were growing up?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I have a point to make. Amy was music
when you were growing up better than today?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Got it? And okay the best? All right? Neil was
music better?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Absolute frickin' loutely all right?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And Codo was music better? Okay? And why is that now?
There are studies that have come out and that was that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
There was a twenty twenty two study that said, or
there was a I'm sorry, starting with a nineteen eighty
nine study that said we peak our music interests peaks
at nineteen.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Another study says it peaks at twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Two, right around when we're involved with music, and music
was part of our lives much more than today, and
we have memories of good music. I remember the minute
I heard for the first time I want to hold
your hand with the Beatles. That second I know where
I was, and when they broke up in nineteen seventy two,
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I think it was my life was ruined.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I very came, I came very close to committing suicide.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Stop okay, I did, okay, but I was very disappointed.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And music died. That was the day that music died.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's a song too, So does that make sense? Think
about this for a moment.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You look at what were some of the best times
of your life when you were early twenties.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean that was just a gas. Do you enjoy
early twenties? And for me it was the best time.
For many people, early twenties the best. Let's go back, Amy, Okay, Neil.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I like them all, I really know.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Okay, you don't help Kono.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
From what I can remember, Yes, yeah, I don't remember
much either.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was pretty stoned.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And in your twenties, yes, I see, that's what happens,
because that is the best time of your life. Traditionally,
you're sort of just starting out. You've just become an adult.
You don't have the complications of family or work. Isn't complicated,
doesn't matter where you work.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's just it's fun. And the music that kicks in
at that time is just fun. And you can actually
tell someone's age.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Without knowing that person's age, without looking at that person,
without knowing who that person is, simply by asking what's.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Your favorite music and what are your favorite bands?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So you talk to me, it's the Beatles, It's Simon
and Garfunkel. You talk to others, it's whatever the hell
band it is, because I stopped listening to music after
the Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel. Okay, I'm going to
finish this up, and this segment is almost working. Amy
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Your favorite music, your favorite band as of right now,
and when you go back into history.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh geez, there's two.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
I don't know the one that when I'm reflecting back,
I'm thinking of Reo Speedwagon, but that's not my favorite band,
but I love.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Them, Okay, but yours the music is sort of that
kind of music which I can't describe.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, like okay, pop rock kind of all right, and
Nelson that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh, I can't talk to you because everything is with you. Kono.
Best music when you were twenty two?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The Emo era was the best.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, the Emo area. So now I know how old
you are, that's it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And best music the Cure Depeche Mode.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, we can figure out how old you are, because
I can't figure it out for me. Well, well, for
my generation before me, it was Elvis Presley that sort
of broke into rock and roll, and it really was
Doris Day.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
And all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Today you look at it and it's just got awful.
Rudy Valley, No, No, is that Frankie Valley. No, it's
Rudy Valley in the twenties. No, it's Gramophones, very very
big star back then.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh, by the way, the wax tubes and put them on. Yeah,
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And okay, here's a fun story, Neil, you were there
when I got my star on the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Who is next to me?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
A homeless guy?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
No, well that's always a given. Yeah, homeless on that star. Yeah,
I know, peeing on my star, that's sort of a given.
But you know who it is it is, or it
was a three hundred pound German opera singer that was
big in the twenties.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Well, it sounds like it was big at this whole life. Yeah,
her life, Oh, her life.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So that gives you an idea of how important and
where my star is and the worst part of the
worst part of Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
But I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You know what's funny is I'm where Bill and I
are doing the show together this past Saturday, and I,
you know, remind people that he's got a star on
the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So I'm talking to him. Later, He's like, don't do that,
and it embarrasses me. I don't like you mentioning my
awards or things like that.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
And I go, Bill, if someone was on your show
and they had a star on the Walk of Fame,
would you mention it?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He goes, yeah, well, then leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Actually I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Why would you not mention this that you see?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There? You go, I'm embarrassed, And here I am blowing out.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Hey, look at me. I'm a bitching guy.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You said bitchin we know, so you know how old
I am right there, right right there, all right, coming up, Hey,
that's groovy, manow.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Coming up right, that's I'm gonna have a guy who's
really boss. Come be aboard. Here we go. It's time
for Handle and Wayne. Do they have a case with
Wayne Resnik?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Good?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Hey, this is professional stuff, okay.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Very professional people are finally getting a peek behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Finally, finally, Yeah, all right, So.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What let's taking Trapman?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
One of the most misunderstood elements in the justice system.
In Trapman, cops do not have to tell you their
cops just because you ask them. If they're cops. Bill,
you've brought this up a lot. You have mentioned this
a lot. You're one of the few people that actually
gets it, because you've talked on the air a lot
about how cops can totally lie to you, absolutely and
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that it's it's kosher for them to lie about all
kinds of things to you. So trapman is not maybe
what people think. But here we have a guy who
says he wasn't trapped. Here's what's going on, Old Forge, Pennsylvania,
small town old boy network. And this guy, Walter is
having a bunch of problem with the city with zoning
violations for his businesses. There's another guy in town and
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his name and he's the litigant here, James Pepperno, who
needs money. He needs some money, so he goes to
Walter and he says, listen, I know a guy on
the city council. He's actually the president of the city council.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And what we can do is you.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Give him a little moolah and he can make your
zoning problems go away.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And I'll be the middleman.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You hire me as a consultant so it looks nice
on paper, and I'll take some of the money and
he'll get some of the money and your problems will
go away, and uh, Walter's like, uh, sure, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And so Pepperno gets on the phone.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
He calls up the president guy and he says, hey,
you know the thing we talked about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're gonna do it. We're doing it now.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
What Walter did after that is he went right to
the FBI and he said, hey, these guys, this guy
came to me and said I should bribe the city
council president and everything.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So the FBI says, oh, well.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
If you want, you could wear a wire if you want,
and and have him pay you bribes and we'll give
you the money to give him, because you know, we'll
keep track of the serial numbers. And that's what happens,
and jump to the chase. Pepperno gets charged with a
bunch of bribery counts. He gets convicted of a bunch
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of bribery counts and he says to the judge, I
want you to tell the jury about entrapment. I want
an entrapment instruction. And the judge says why and he says,
because you know, they they told Walter to come to
me wearing a wire, uh, for to get me to
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take a prime from him and the judge says that
sounds dumb.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, so he gets convicted.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And now he goes up to the Third Circuit Court
of Appeals and he says, I should have been allowed
to argue entrapment because they said, hey, Walter, if you
want to wear a wire and go get this guy
to meet with you to get a bribe.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We'll do that, and that's entrapment.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
What does the third Circuit say, entrapment or also stupid?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I think stupid.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't think that is entrapment because the FBI didn't
create the crime.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It simply yes, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Who created the crime? It was on what I told
you it was.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The crime was initiated I believe by the third party
guy whatever his name is, guy who asked he initiated
the crime. But you also have the builder. I'm assuming
it was a building situation, and he said, yes, I
am okay with that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I will go forward with the crime.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's like the sting operation, remember as abscam with the
council people and the FBI. The congressman, Yeah, went to
people and they got him. They went forward and said,
do you want to get money, we will The third
it or some they claimed to be Arab businessman or
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something I could do some kind of They asked these
elected officials, and they went to the elected officials. It
wasn't the elect officials went to them. So I don't
think this is entrapman. I think the FBI coming in
after the fact.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's done. They went ahead with it.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And you cannot even if I ask you to go
forward with the crime and you agreed to it and
the cops come in after the fact, that is not
entrapman all.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So, if it's not entrapment, it's stupid. Yes, And mister
Paperno was found to be stupid up with the appellate
little and they said, hey, wait a minute, here's entrapment
number one. The cops have to put the idea of
the crime in your head.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And that's not enough.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
As you pointed out in the abscam scandal, they were
approaching the congress people and offering them bribes. They were
suggesting the crime. But that's not enough. The government can
go around all day and suggest crimes. They have to
overcome your lack of a predisposition to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Hey, Bill, do you want to rob a bank?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I do.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
That's not entrapment.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Do you want to rob a bank. No, why would
I rob a bank. I don't want to rob a bank.
Come on, Bill, please, you've known me all these years.
I really need some money. Please please, please, please please
help me rob a bank. Oh jeez, okay, maybe that's entrapment.
This guy thought of the bribes. This guy never once
said I don't think we should pay bribes.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So yes, he loses big time.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
All right, So here's a guy in prison and he says, oh,
I happen to be an adherent to Christian Israelite beliefs,
which is the belief that Europeans, such as myself European descent,
we are direct descendants of the ten northern tribes of
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Israelites that were conquered by the Assyrians, which Neil probably
knows all about this story. I don't really remember anything
about that, but I'll assume it's true. So he goes, hey,
I want in on the Kosher for Passover menu that
you guys are going to be handing out because of
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my beliefs. And his request goes to the chaplain, and
the chaplain says, all right, well, all you got to
do is substantiate your claim, which is usually you know,
just to tell us something so we know you're not
just making it up to get the food.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And they have a little interview, and during the interview.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
The chaplain becomes combative and starts telling this guy he's wrong.
His beliefs are wrong. Not I don't believe you believe
these things. I don't believe you believe the religion. But
the religion you're describing is wrong. Well do you think
he approved the guy's request?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He did not, of course not.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
So here comes all the grievances and many levels of
review and grievance and complaint, none of which gets this
guy any help. So of course he goes right to
a federal lawsuit for violating the Religious land Use and
Imprisoned Persons or maybe it's Institutionalized Persons Act, which is
about religious freedom. The government cannot unduly burn and exercise
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of religion. And he says, hey, this guy he said
no because he doesn't believe. He doesn't agree with me theologically.
You can't do that to a person. And the district
court says, yeah, or whatever, I don't think you have
anything here, goodbye. So he gets some lawyers and he
goes up to the Ninth Circuit Court of appeals, and
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he says, this judge is an idiot.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He doesn't even understand what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You can't deny a prisoner a special diet for religious
reasons because you disagree philosophically with the religious beliefs.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And the prison says, oh, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
You can make prisoners do things in order to get
approval for their religious diets.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And this guy says.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, you can make them fill out a standard form.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You can do that. That's true.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
There's a case that says you can make them fill
out a form that says, I hereby request this diet,
do we just lose wayne side what is or is
not religion? So does he have a case, this prisoner
or will he be eating bread for Passover?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I think he has a case real simple, because first
of all, anybody has a right to declare religion and
they're you know, prayer rugs and all of that that
they have. And Jewish people have a right to say
or any derivative derivation of Jewish people have a right
to say, yeah, I want kosher food. Now, everybody wants
kosher food, by the way, in prison, because it's one
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hundred times better than any other food. But the argument
that a chaplain who can determine whether someone is not just.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Making it up? You know you can't. That means everybody
would make it up.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There can be some determination, but certainly not predicated on
whether the religion is valid or not. I think he wins,
and I think he gets MutS of ball soup next time.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Out, he does, and I assume he does.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, as to the latter, all right, thank you.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Maybe he'll get special motzamele flower based crapes.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, thank you very well.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
You're not gonna let that one a go. All right,
we're done, Thank you. Way, We'll see you next Monday.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
As we do. That's it, We're done, guys. Yeah, we
do this again.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Tomorrow week up call with Amy Neil and I come
aboard at six am and we all do the show
and then kno is our whatever the hell Amy calls
you executive for the best.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm just the best.
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KFI AM six forty bill handle here. Oh yes, it's
a Monday morning, November eleventh.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
A couple of stories we're following.
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Bitcoin hit eighty thousand dollars for a bitcoin. Now, when
bitcoin first came out, you could have bought a or
several bitcoins for a penny.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Good move.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Why CONO are you jumping up and down? You bought
bitcoin early on.
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Not that early. I still work here, but I bought it.
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Are you based them especially now? Yes? Wow, we used
to have someone.
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Here that worked here bought it very early. And man,
he and his family are doing just fine. Oh right, okay,
starting let's go into politics for just a moment. And
here we're doing the Democrats are doing autopsies or an
auto about what happened and missing the vote completely. And
the question is how did Latinos vote for Trump?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I mean they moved into the Trump camp.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Substantially after the twenty twenty election where Biden won.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Now, Trump has called Latino migrants.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Rapists, murderers, drug dealers, They're taking over our jobs, They're
destroying America. At what are the final rallies at Madison
Square Garden. The comedian Forgot his Name describes Puerto Rico
as a floating island of garbage.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, okay, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Latinos are going to turn against him. Certainly Puerto Ricans done.
And that's another reason that Kamala Harris is going to win.
Wrongo Bongo exit pill exit polls showed that forty six
percent of Latinos voted for him, and among the Latino men,
fifty five percent voted for him, which is only a
(02:06):
thirty percent up since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And how many of us.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Were baffled, How many pundits were baffled, how many Democrats
were baffled. How could Latinos, some of them whose family
members could be targeted by mass deportations, make this choice. Well,
let me make it real simple. It was a vote
(02:31):
for capitalism. It was all about money, that's it. And
Trump's strongest argument was are you better off today than
you were when I was president?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I was president pre inflation, Look where you are now?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And inflation was being blamed directly on the Biden administration.
Because an administration takes all the blame no matter what happens,
a test takes the credit. Whether or not the administration
can can control whatever is going on. So let's talk
about American values for a moment and the American dream
(03:10):
and the Puerto Ricans that came here and the immigrants
that came here. And if you look at the Statue
of Liberty, what does it say, right, we welcome the tired,
the poor, the huddled masses who yearn not particularly to
be free. Reality tells us it's to be rich. When
(03:33):
you talk about the American dream, people who live the
American dream, how many times it is about the ability
to vote versus the ability to earn money and succeed
and make money. And the American dream is all about
money and finance. One of my best friends, Saville, who
Neil knows very very well, he always talks about he's
(03:56):
living the American dream. America is the greatest country in
the world. And where why Well, of course, for freedom
and the ability to vote, et cetera, and our governance,
but it really more is about you have the ability
to start a business, create wealth, and become rich. That
is the American dream. And that is what Trump in
(04:22):
fact promoted, and it's sort of true because he says, look.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
At me, I'm a self made man. I am rich.
By the way. How many people think or believe or.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Take or give credit to his dad. He inherited a
huge real estate empire. Now granted that was in Brooklyn,
Long Island, and he's the one that did it in Manhattan.
So yeah, I mean he built the business, there's no
question about it. He created wealth, but he started very wealthy.
(04:56):
He is not someone who came here from nothing and
grew it into a major business. He is the American dream,
except he really isn't. And the Latino vote is all
about or in many cases, the Latinos were all about
the American dream, and he is the embodiment of it,
(05:18):
even though he really isn't. He has done a phenomenal job.
He's going to cut taxes for the middle class. Let
me tell you, the middle class is going to get hit.
The tariffs are going to be great help to Americans
and the middle class.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
They're actually not.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Things are going to be much more expensive with high
tariffs coming in. I mean they are, and you'll see,
I mean, there's no way around that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
But what the.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Democrats missed is the fact that Latinos, like many others,
are looking at money.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That's the American dream.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
These immigrants come up across for financial reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Now, many of them come across just to eat.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And the American dream for illegal migration is simply to
feed a family.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
So that's money on a very low level.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
But as you go up the scale, Latinos who have
created businesses, who have gotten good jobs, who have in
fact created for their families, professional professionals, who in fact
earn a great deal of money. That's the American dream.
(06:37):
And the Democrats miss that completely. They just blew it,
just like the last segment where I talked about the manosphere,
where the Democrats just missed it completely. Young white men
who live on the internet and they play games and
they talk to each other, and they are.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Just young guys just ranting and raving, and they.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Coordinate with each other, they program and they promote each other.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And the Democrats missed that completely.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
When you look at it, you see how brilliant Trump
was on purpose.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It was his son Baron who convinced him to go
on some of these chats on some of these podcasts
run by.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Eighteen year old twenty two year.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Old white guys who have huge audiences. So the Latino vote.
I guess that worked surprised a lot of people. All right,
interesting article that I wanted to share with you, and
it really resonated with me when and brought it up.
And that's about music from our younger years. I mean,
(07:50):
music used to be great, and for the most part,
back then it was better than today. I certainly leave
that that music when I was younger was much better.
And how many people can fill how many groups can
fill up a stadium?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Today? You've got Taylor Swift can fill a stadium? Who else?
The Eagles?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
What if they were ever going to get together? Right?
The Eagles?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Think of the groups that you would think that would
fill a stadium.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Today, the Beatles, the Beatles.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But think of the only modern group or the only
modern act. The only modern person I can think of
is Taylor Swift. Who can sit seventy thousand people have
three performances to sell out?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Who else?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
There's oh damn?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, all right, Well that blows my entire segment here.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I got nothing. I got absolutely nothing. Okay, what we
talk about it instead? But there is a study out there.
I do want to point it out. And this is
part of me and a lot of people think, well,
maybe you do. Do you think music back then was
better when you were growing up?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And I have a point to make. Amy was music
when you were growing up better than today?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Got it? And okay the best? All right? Neil was
music better?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Absolute frickin' loutely all right?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And Codo was music better? Okay? And why is that now?
There are studies that have come out and that was that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
There was a twenty twenty two study that said, or
there was a I'm sorry, starting with a nineteen eighty
nine study that said we peak our music interests peaks
at nineteen.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Another study says it peaks at twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Two, right around when we're involved with music, and music
was part of our lives much more than today, and
we have memories of good music. I remember the minute
I heard for the first time I want to hold
your hand with the Beatles. That second I know where
I was, and when they broke up in nineteen seventy two,
(10:19):
I think it was my life was ruined.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I very came, I came very close to committing suicide.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Stop okay, I did, okay, but I was very disappointed.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And music died. That was the day that music died.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That's a song too, So does that make sense? Think
about this for a moment.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
You look at what were some of the best times
of your life when you were early twenties.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I mean that was just a gas. Do you enjoy
early twenties? And for me it was the best time.
For many people, early twenties the best. Let's go back, Amy, Okay, Neil.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I like them all, I really know.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Okay, you don't help Kono.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
From what I can remember, Yes, yeah, I don't remember
much either.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was pretty stoned.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And in your twenties, yes, I see, that's what happens,
because that is the best time of your life. Traditionally,
you're sort of just starting out. You've just become an adult.
You don't have the complications of family or work. Isn't complicated,
doesn't matter where you work.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's just it's fun. And the music that kicks in
at that time is just fun. And you can actually
tell someone's age.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Without knowing that person's age, without looking at that person,
without knowing who that person is, simply by asking what's.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Your favorite music and what are your favorite bands?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
So you talk to me, it's the Beatles, It's Simon
and Garfunkel. You talk to others, it's whatever the hell
band it is, because I stopped listening to music after
the Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel. Okay, I'm going to
finish this up, and this segment is almost working. Amy
(12:12):
Your favorite music, your favorite band as of right now,
and when you go back into history.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh geez, there's two.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
I don't know the one that when I'm reflecting back,
I'm thinking of Reo Speedwagon, but that's not my favorite band,
but I love.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Them, Okay, but yours the music is sort of that
kind of music which I can't describe.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Yeah, like okay, pop rock kind of all right, and
Nelson that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Oh, I can't talk to you because everything is with you. Kono.
Best music when you were twenty two?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The Emo era was the best.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, the Emo area. So now I know how old
you are, that's it.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And best music the Cure Depeche Mode.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, we can figure out how old you are, because
I can't figure it out for me. Well, well, for
my generation before me, it was Elvis Presley that sort
of broke into rock and roll, and it really was
Doris Day.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
And all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Today you look at it and it's just got awful.
Rudy Valley, No, No, is that Frankie Valley. No, it's
Rudy Valley in the twenties. No, it's Gramophones, very very
big star back then.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Oh, by the way, the wax tubes and put them on. Yeah,
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And okay, here's a fun story, Neil, you were there
when I got my star on the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Who is next to me?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
A homeless guy?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
No, well that's always a given. Yeah, homeless on that star. Yeah,
I know, peeing on my star, that's sort of a given.
But you know who it is it is, or it
was a three hundred pound German opera singer that was
big in the twenties.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Well, it sounds like it was big at this whole life. Yeah,
her life, Oh, her life.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So that gives you an idea of how important and
where my star is and the worst part of the
worst part of Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
But I'm very proud of it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
You know what's funny is I'm where Bill and I
are doing the show together this past Saturday, and I,
you know, remind people that he's got a star on
the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
So I'm talking to him. Later, He's like, don't do that,
and it embarrasses me. I don't like you mentioning my
awards or things like that.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
And I go, Bill, if someone was on your show
and they had a star on the Walk of Fame,
would you mention it?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
He goes, yeah, well, then leave me alone.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Actually I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Why would you not mention this that you see?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There? You go, I'm embarrassed, And here I am blowing out.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Hey, look at me. I'm a bitching guy.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You said bitchin we know, so you know how old
I am right there, right right there, all right, coming up, Hey,
that's groovy, manow.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Coming up right, that's I'm gonna have a guy who's
really boss. Come be aboard. Here we go. It's time
for Handle and Wayne. Do they have a case with
Wayne Resnik?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Good?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Hey, this is professional stuff, okay.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Very professional people are finally getting a peek behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Finally, finally, Yeah, all right, So.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
What let's taking Trapman?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
One of the most misunderstood elements in the justice system.
In Trapman, cops do not have to tell you their
cops just because you ask them. If they're cops. Bill,
you've brought this up a lot. You have mentioned this
a lot. You're one of the few people that actually
gets it, because you've talked on the air a lot
about how cops can totally lie to you, absolutely and
(15:55):
that it's it's kosher for them to lie about all
kinds of things to you. So trapman is not maybe
what people think. But here we have a guy who
says he wasn't trapped. Here's what's going on, Old Forge, Pennsylvania,
small town old boy network. And this guy, Walter is
having a bunch of problem with the city with zoning
violations for his businesses. There's another guy in town and
(16:20):
his name and he's the litigant here, James Pepperno, who
needs money. He needs some money, so he goes to
Walter and he says, listen, I know a guy on
the city council. He's actually the president of the city council.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And what we can do is you.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Give him a little moolah and he can make your
zoning problems go away.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And I'll be the middleman.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You hire me as a consultant so it looks nice
on paper, and I'll take some of the money and
he'll get some of the money and your problems will
go away, and uh, Walter's like, uh, sure, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And so Pepperno gets on the phone.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
He calls up the president guy and he says, hey,
you know the thing we talked about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
We're gonna do it. We're doing it now.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
What Walter did after that is he went right to
the FBI and he said, hey, these guys, this guy
came to me and said I should bribe the city
council president and everything.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So the FBI says, oh, well.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
If you want, you could wear a wire if you want,
and and have him pay you bribes and we'll give
you the money to give him, because you know, we'll
keep track of the serial numbers. And that's what happens,
and jump to the chase. Pepperno gets charged with a
bunch of bribery counts. He gets convicted of a bunch
(17:48):
of bribery counts and he says to the judge, I
want you to tell the jury about entrapment. I want
an entrapment instruction. And the judge says why and he says,
because you know, they they told Walter to come to
me wearing a wire, uh, for to get me to
(18:11):
take a prime from him and the judge says that
sounds dumb.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
No, so he gets convicted.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
And now he goes up to the Third Circuit Court
of Appeals and he says, I should have been allowed
to argue entrapment because they said, hey, Walter, if you
want to wear a wire and go get this guy
to meet with you to get a bribe.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
We'll do that, and that's entrapment.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
What does the third Circuit say, entrapment or also stupid?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I think stupid.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't think that is entrapment because the FBI didn't
create the crime.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It simply yes, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Who created the crime? It was on what I told
you it was.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
The crime was initiated I believe by the third party
guy whatever his name is, guy who asked he initiated
the crime. But you also have the builder. I'm assuming
it was a building situation, and he said, yes, I
am okay with that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I will go forward with the crime.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It's like the sting operation, remember as abscam with the
council people and the FBI. The congressman, Yeah, went to
people and they got him. They went forward and said,
do you want to get money, we will The third
it or some they claimed to be Arab businessman or
(19:35):
something I could do some kind of They asked these
elected officials, and they went to the elected officials. It
wasn't the elect officials went to them. So I don't
think this is entrapman. I think the FBI coming in
after the fact.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's done. They went ahead with it.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And you cannot even if I ask you to go
forward with the crime and you agreed to it and
the cops come in after the fact, that is not
entrapman all.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
So, if it's not entrapment, it's stupid. Yes, And mister
Paperno was found to be stupid up with the appellate
little and they said, hey, wait a minute, here's entrapment
number one. The cops have to put the idea of
the crime in your head.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And that's not enough.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
As you pointed out in the abscam scandal, they were
approaching the congress people and offering them bribes. They were
suggesting the crime. But that's not enough. The government can
go around all day and suggest crimes. They have to
overcome your lack of a predisposition to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Hey, Bill, do you want to rob a bank?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I do.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
That's not entrapment.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Do you want to rob a bank. No, why would
I rob a bank. I don't want to rob a bank.
Come on, Bill, please, you've known me all these years.
I really need some money. Please please, please, please please
help me rob a bank. Oh jeez, okay, maybe that's entrapment.
This guy thought of the bribes. This guy never once
said I don't think we should pay bribes.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
So yes, he loses big time.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
All right, So here's a guy in prison and he says, oh,
I happen to be an adherent to Christian Israelite beliefs,
which is the belief that Europeans, such as myself European descent,
we are direct descendants of the ten northern tribes of
(21:32):
Israelites that were conquered by the Assyrians, which Neil probably
knows all about this story. I don't really remember anything
about that, but I'll assume it's true. So he goes, hey,
I want in on the Kosher for Passover menu that
you guys are going to be handing out because of
(21:53):
my beliefs. And his request goes to the chaplain, and
the chaplain says, all right, well, all you got to
do is substantiate your claim, which is usually you know,
just to tell us something so we know you're not
just making it up to get the food.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And they have a little interview, and during the interview.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
The chaplain becomes combative and starts telling this guy he's wrong.
His beliefs are wrong. Not I don't believe you believe
these things. I don't believe you believe the religion. But
the religion you're describing is wrong. Well do you think
he approved the guy's request?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He did not, of course not.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
So here comes all the grievances and many levels of
review and grievance and complaint, none of which gets this
guy any help. So of course he goes right to
a federal lawsuit for violating the Religious land Use and
Imprisoned Persons or maybe it's Institutionalized Persons Act, which is
about religious freedom. The government cannot unduly burn and exercise
(23:01):
of religion. And he says, hey, this guy he said
no because he doesn't believe. He doesn't agree with me theologically.
You can't do that to a person. And the district
court says, yeah, or whatever, I don't think you have
anything here, goodbye. So he gets some lawyers and he
goes up to the Ninth Circuit Court of appeals, and
(23:22):
he says, this judge is an idiot.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
He doesn't even understand what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
You can't deny a prisoner a special diet for religious
reasons because you disagree philosophically with the religious beliefs.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And the prison says, oh, you know.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
You can make prisoners do things in order to get
approval for their religious diets.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And this guy says.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Yeah, you can make them fill out a standard form.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You can do that. That's true.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
There's a case that says you can make them fill
out a form that says, I hereby request this diet,
do we just lose wayne side what is or is
not religion? So does he have a case, this prisoner
or will he be eating bread for Passover?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I think he has a case real simple, because first
of all, anybody has a right to declare religion and
they're you know, prayer rugs and all of that that
they have. And Jewish people have a right to say
or any derivative derivation of Jewish people have a right
to say, yeah, I want kosher food. Now, everybody wants
kosher food, by the way, in prison, because it's one
(24:33):
hundred times better than any other food. But the argument
that a chaplain who can determine whether someone is not just.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Making it up? You know you can't. That means everybody
would make it up.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There can be some determination, but certainly not predicated on
whether the religion is valid or not. I think he wins,
and I think he gets MutS of ball soup next time.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Out, he does, and I assume he does.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Okay, as to the latter, all right, thank you.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Maybe he'll get special motzamele flower based crapes.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yes, thank you very well.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
You're not gonna let that one a go. All right,
we're done, Thank you. Way, We'll see you next Monday.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
As we do. That's it, We're done, guys. Yeah, we
do this again.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Tomorrow week up call with Amy Neil and I come
aboard at six am and we all do the show
and then kno is our whatever the hell Amy calls
you executive for the best.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm just the best.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Yeah, I don't know what it is, you know, technical
director or some other happy horsecrap And and who is
the producer seeing tomorrow everybody. This is KFI AM six
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