November 6, 2024 • 21 mins
District Attorney of Orange County Todd Spitzer joins the show to talk about California passing the tough-on-crime Proposition 36. California props: What passed, what didn't.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Wednesday morning,
November sixth, yesterday. Of course, Donald Trump having been elected
the forty seventh President of the United States not only
the electoral college but the popular vote. So there can
be no argument I at least still hate the electoral
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college system. Also, if there is any doubt whatsoever that
Donald Trump is pro business, the stock market is up
twelve hundred points, that's all.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What does that tell you? Yeah, yeah, pretty much pro business. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Of the propositions that were passed last night, probably the
most overwhelming passage was Prop thirty six with seventy percent.
That is beyond a landslide, that is a wipeout. And
this was the tough on crime ballot initiative, harsher penalties
for retail theft, property crimes, drug offenses. Todd Spitzer, who
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is the DA of Orange County, who is considered pretty
much of a hard ass against crime which a prosecutor
should be, joins us and Todd has been a friend
for way over thirty years.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Todd, A couple things for small welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Second, are you at all surprised that it was this overwhelming,
and let's analyze it a little bit from your point of view.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, let me just say good morning, Bill, and can
you say trifecta. Let me give you the trifecta. Prop
thirty six seventy percent, Nathan Hawkman sixty one percent, the
recall of Pam Price, the George Gascone of the North
in Alameda County sixty five percent. Recall. Okay, I mean listen,
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I think last night was a statement statewide, knock the
crap off, keep us safe. We want to be safe.
Just go back to being a safe state and knock
off all these experiments. And so do I think seventy
percent was overwhelming. Let me tell you something, not everybody
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knows the billionaires, right, the ones that the George Soros group,
the want netfligs, Facebook, the funds that they put in
to try to, you know, open the prison doors. All
the friends of Gavin knew, some that have dinner at
the French laundry. They put in millions of dollars. Bill
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in San Diego County, hoping to use San Diego to
offset the rest of the state against Prop thirty six.
San Diego passed with sixty seven percent of the vote
for Prop. Thirty six. Orange County was seventy six per
sent bill. Those numbers are astronomical. They are even la
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with sixty six percent.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And I know you had railed against Prop.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Forty seven, which reduced penalties for crimes. And now we
are back to the where I think, and certainly you think,
is more well more accountability.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is it going to change at all your ability to prosecute.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I'll make two points, Bill, It's gonna make a great
ability to change and prosecute. But let me just tell you.
If DA's over use this new tool and we abuse
it and we are perceived as too tough on crime
where we're just filling the prisons again and we're not
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forcing people into treatment and using this for deterrence, it
will backfire on us. And you know, I've been friends
with you a long time. I've been around a long
time now, and I'm not going to let this boomerang.
I can't allow my colleagues around the state to overuse
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the new tools we were given by the voters last night.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
All right, would you quickly explain which one is just
I'd rather hear it from your mouth, because you're the DA.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What does Prop thirty six do.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So it says, if you have two or more convictions
for drug possession, we can give you dory air door B.
We can tell you you have to go into treatment
and you have to deal with your addiction, or if
you refuse, we can incarcerate you. So it is treatment
first sentinel. It tells a drug dealer, now, as a
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matter of law, if you deal drugs and you are convicted,
if you deal drugs in the future and you kill
somebody and the substance that you sold them has fetanyl,
you now can be charged with murder. So every judge
has to give that admonishment in court to a convicted
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drug dealer, just like we do with drunk driving when
somebody is convicted that we can charge them with murder
if they kill. Okay, in the future. So we have
the fentanyl, we have the drugs, and then we have theft.
And you know, we have a nine hundred and fifty
dollars limit for the distinction between a misdemeanor and a felony.
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We did not change that in Prop thirty six, but
we said if you have two or more convictions for
petty theft, we can now charge you with a felony,
which is what we used to have, and we lost
that and that's why we have all these thefts and
smashing grabs.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
All right, Todd, I guess it's appropriate to take congratulations,
although you know, based on what so many of us think,
we're just going back to a logical use of the law.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Todd, your voices a little bit out. You've been screaming.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
No. I was with Nathan last night late in Los Angeles,
and I've been doing interviews, and let me just tell you, Bill,
I am so excited that California, at least with respect
to public safety, maybe going back to the middle just
truth in sentencing. Let's just follow the law, follow the evidence,
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and protect the public.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Todd Spitzer, da friend over thirty years and district attorney
in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Todd, you have a good one. Take care of your voice.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You have a good one, Thanks, Cheryl. Okay, what did
we decide as Californian's last night? And I think the
biggest one was Prop thirty six, which Todd Spitzer just
talked about, and that's bringing accountability back. As he mentioned,
this prop had to do with making sure that criminals
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are going to be more accountable. In the aftermath of
the George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement, das
and laws were swept away in terms of how serious
crimes were considered, how crimes were defined, how they were
dealt with.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, this, this brings us back.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
In other words, some of the terms of Prop.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thirty six has to do with theft. Simple theft.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You've got to retail theft, that can be a felony
after two and then fentanyl selling and you know that
becomes a felony.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I mean, it just brings us back to normalcy. So
that was easy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That was seventy percent. Seventy percent we voted. And then
a couple things about money that I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Prop two.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Authorize the state to borrow ten billion dollars to modernize
K through twelve schools and community colleges. As I said
yesterday and a few days before, Californians have never met
a tax they don't like, which is why we have
the highest tax rate in the United States by a
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long shot. And this one is not necessarily a tax
per se. It allows the state to borrow money, sell
a bond, and then we pay for it back. So
I guess it's the second tier tax. We voted yes.
Let's borrow another ten billion dollars. We voted yes to
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the tune of fifty six percent. Now another bond ten
billion dollars to help fund the response to climate related disasters, drought, flooding.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Extreme heat in shore, clean drinking water.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
By the way, I voted no on Prop two. Yes
on Prop.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Four dealing with the clean water and flooding and climate
related to disasters.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I voted yes on that one. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Because this is state government, and this climate change has
really taken everybody for a loop. It's really not their fault.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Prop five.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Hey, this is an interest interesting one local governments. It
would be easier for local governments to approve bonds and
tax measures that fund affordable housing and some public infrastructure.
And all it does is require lower the requirement vote
to approve those measures from two thirds to fifty five percent.
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You want to know something, we voted no, voted no,
And it could be maybe we've reached the point where
the money that's going to housing and homelessness is.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So high that it almost dwarfs everything else. That's my
take on it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well might as well, spend our entire budget on homeless
because we're moving in that direction. And this will do
the last one before we take a break. Sorry, I'm
coughing here. This is banning involuntary servitude and in mandatory
work requirement for state prisoners. State prisoners under current law
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can be forced to work. And this was called the
Anti Slavery Statute or anti Slavery proposition.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We voted no.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Clearly we are in favor of slavery in this state.
Slavery is a very popular thing. Not bad you slaveholders,
pro slave people, Okay, so be it. Prop Thirty three
would have allowed cities and counties to enact rent control
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to bring in more rent controls cities and counties, for example,
Santa Monica cities would be able to out Santa Monica
out Anamonica Santa Monica with rent control.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That was a big sixty one percent no. That was surprising.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Prop thirty four and I'm surprised that barely passed. Healthcare
providers have to spend most of the revenue they get
from federal prescription drug discount programs on direct patient care,
not advertising, not political ads, straight to patient care. And
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it only passed by fifty one percent. Figure that one out.
And by the way, California voters, we approved the measure
to provide permanent funding for medical which is our version
of Medicaid. And right now, the tax on managed health
insurance plans that funds the program is expiring twenty twenty six.
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And here's the way these measures are passed. You have taxes,
You have certain measures that are going only on for
three or five, five or ten years, and then the
sunset out because they are for either emergency purposes or
to fund various programs, and then okay, we funded it,
We're done. What ends up happening is that no tax
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is ever revoked, even temporary taxes become permanent taxes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And how why is that?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Because they're always advertised as this won't raise taxes one bit,
you won't pay one penny more for this proposition, and
they leave out the fact that it's supposed to end
next year and it's going to go on forever. Therefore
you're not paying any more than you do now. And
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you've got things that go up a quarter of a cent,
another quarter of ascent. And this is how we work
in California. You know, I'm surprised that there isn't this
huge influx or out flux of California is leaving the state.
We have become and we are the most expensive state
in the United States to live in.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Housing is astronomical.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Of course, the cost of gasoline, although it's gone down.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Is more expensive than ever before.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I will also say something about Donald Trump being
pro business. Donald Trump is pro business as long as
your business is not in California.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He hates California.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And case in point is the salt and salt is
basically eliminating your property taxes to for deductions beyond ten
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Now, there are people that pay.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Twenty five thousand and thirty thousand dollars in property tax.
Because you have a home that's let's say a two
million dollar house, which is not astronomicals. So you pay
twenty thousand dollars in property tax, you can only deduct
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Why well, because that was.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Put in, by the way, during Donald Trump's previous administration.
Why well, because it's California has those expensive, expensive tax rates.
You go to a southern state, nothing like that happens.
The other thing is the amount of income you make
your state tax Your federal taxes used to be deductible.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well that changed to a max of ten thousand dollars.
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Because Californians make more money than people in Alabama do.
Because Californians voted against Donald Trump. People in Alabama love
Donald Trump. So let's just say, whatever laws that are
going to be passed helping people out not going to
help California or New York or Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And that's the reality of it. So, by the way, pro.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Business, it's Donald Trump is perceived as so pro business,
which he is for the most part.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Amy, what is the stock market? Earlier?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You had said had been up twelve one hundred points,
which is like beyond astronomical.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What is it now?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's now up thirteen hundred and sixty nine points. That's unbelievable.
I've never heard of that those numbers going up that high.
You think the perception that President Trump is pro business? Wow,
And we'll see, we'll see. I think that's true. I
think workers are going to be put on a lower run.
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I think those people who are working stiffs.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Are and it's a lot of people that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Are working stiff. I don't know if I put myself
in the category. Yeah, I'm pretty stiff, and I work.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's fair gross, thank you. I do believe that middle
class is not going to be treated.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So well under President Trump. I do not believe that,
although he pushed it very hard.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think you can't. As as who voted for him.
That's exactly that's exactly correct. That's exactly correct.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That he was able to convince the middle class that
he would do better for them than Kamala Harris, which
I believe is the other way around. By the way,
I'm just telling you that. And this is not a
value judgment, this is not a moral judgment. I just
believe you cannot be pro pro business and still be
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pro labor at the same time.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The two just don't work together. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
As I said, we are in for a roller coaster
ride this next four years. As I said before, this
was an election that both the popular vote as well
as the electric college went to Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And no one can argue that this is a democracy.
This is the way it works. And I know people
are very upset. I know people who are very upset
about the election.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Getting texts and it is the level of losing I've
never seen in terms of how upset people are. But
I want to share with you something that you probably
are not going to hear, and that is.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
How Donald Trump handled this election.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I'm talking about a reference to a book that
I'm reading by Bob Woodward called War Bob, Bob Woodward
and Carl Bernstein Fame. Of course, those two broke the
Watergate story and then they wrote a bunch of books,
and Woodward has written dozens of books. Anyway, he's going
through his files and he discusses it in his book
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that he keeps the number of files and the records that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He keeps like fills garages.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And he's going through his one of his boxes and
he pulls on an envelope and in it was a
taped interview that he did with Donald Trump when Donald
Trump was forty two years old, and talking about how
he Donald Trump made business decisions, and he said, I
always go by my gut. I don't listen to people
around me, and I've made some spectacular deals. The best
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deals I've ever made was not listening to people that
were telling me what to do. Fast forward to the election,
Donald Trump was off message. We heard that about his
advisers telling him he was completely off message. He was ranting,
he was talking of personal attacks, he was going off
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off message and just going.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
To areas that made no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And he kept on saying, I don't listen to my advisors.
We heard that over and over again, that he's going
contrary to his circle told him what to do, and
he always said, I don't listen to my advisors. I
go with my gut instinct. And his gut instinct worked.
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His advisors told them, stay on message, stay on message,
stay on message. His gut instinct is attack, make stuff up.
Why literally, dogs and cats. I would not want to
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be a Haitian in Springfield, Ohio going into a pet
store today.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I would not want to do that because, well, what
are you gonna do? Are you gonna get arrested for
eating the dogs? It all worked. The point is.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That Donald Trump, in his own way, clearly knows more
than his advisors ever will, knows more than his business
partners ever will.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And why is that because he doesn't listen to them.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And here's the scary part is that he is now
president of the United States. He's gonna have advisors around him,
and he's gonna ignore all of them because he wins
by doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
He totally wins.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So we are going to see a president who doesn't
have necessarily more power than other presidents do. I mean
he will if both Congress and the Senate and the
presidency is one house, that one Republican party, of which
he really isn't a Republican. The party is Donald Trump.
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There's the Democratic Party, there's the Donald Trump Party.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And then there are a couple of some offshoots. So
prepare yourself. It's going to be a roller coaster ride.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And I've talked a little bit about it, and we
will be talking more and more as decisions are made.
They're going to take us for a loop. Hey, this
is America, all right? We do this again tomorrow once again.
Wake up call at five o'clock with Amy, then the
rest of the show from six to nine, all of
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I AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Wednesday morning,
November sixth, yesterday. Of course, Donald Trump having been elected
the forty seventh President of the United States not only
the electoral college but the popular vote. So there can
be no argument I at least still hate the electoral
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college system. Also, if there is any doubt whatsoever that
Donald Trump is pro business, the stock market is up
twelve hundred points, that's all.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
What does that tell you? Yeah, yeah, pretty much pro business. Now.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Of the propositions that were passed last night, probably the
most overwhelming passage was Prop thirty six with seventy percent.
That is beyond a landslide, that is a wipeout. And
this was the tough on crime ballot initiative, harsher penalties
for retail theft, property crimes, drug offenses. Todd Spitzer, who
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is the DA of Orange County, who is considered pretty
much of a hard ass against crime which a prosecutor
should be, joins us and Todd has been a friend
for way over thirty years.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Todd, A couple things for small welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Second, are you at all surprised that it was this overwhelming,
and let's analyze it a little bit from your point of view.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, let me just say good morning, Bill, and can
you say trifecta. Let me give you the trifecta. Prop
thirty six seventy percent, Nathan Hawkman sixty one percent, the
recall of Pam Price, the George Gascone of the North
in Alameda County sixty five percent. Recall. Okay, I mean listen,
(01:58):
I think last night was a statement statewide, knock the
crap off, keep us safe. We want to be safe.
Just go back to being a safe state and knock
off all these experiments. And so do I think seventy
percent was overwhelming. Let me tell you something, not everybody
(02:21):
knows the billionaires, right, the ones that the George Soros group,
the want netfligs, Facebook, the funds that they put in
to try to, you know, open the prison doors. All
the friends of Gavin knew, some that have dinner at
the French laundry. They put in millions of dollars. Bill
(02:41):
in San Diego County, hoping to use San Diego to
offset the rest of the state against Prop thirty six.
San Diego passed with sixty seven percent of the vote
for Prop. Thirty six. Orange County was seventy six per
sent bill. Those numbers are astronomical. They are even la
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with sixty six percent.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And I know you had railed against Prop.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Forty seven, which reduced penalties for crimes. And now we
are back to the where I think, and certainly you think,
is more well more accountability.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Is it going to change at all your ability to prosecute.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I'll make two points, Bill, It's gonna make a great
ability to change and prosecute. But let me just tell you.
If DA's over use this new tool and we abuse
it and we are perceived as too tough on crime
where we're just filling the prisons again and we're not
(03:50):
forcing people into treatment and using this for deterrence, it
will backfire on us. And you know, I've been friends
with you a long time. I've been around a long
time now, and I'm not going to let this boomerang.
I can't allow my colleagues around the state to overuse
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the new tools we were given by the voters last night.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
All right, would you quickly explain which one is just
I'd rather hear it from your mouth, because you're the DA.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What does Prop thirty six do.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
So it says, if you have two or more convictions
for drug possession, we can give you dory air door B.
We can tell you you have to go into treatment
and you have to deal with your addiction, or if
you refuse, we can incarcerate you. So it is treatment
first sentinel. It tells a drug dealer, now, as a
(04:47):
matter of law, if you deal drugs and you are convicted,
if you deal drugs in the future and you kill
somebody and the substance that you sold them has fetanyl,
you now can be charged with murder. So every judge
has to give that admonishment in court to a convicted
(05:09):
drug dealer, just like we do with drunk driving when
somebody is convicted that we can charge them with murder
if they kill. Okay, in the future. So we have
the fentanyl, we have the drugs, and then we have theft.
And you know, we have a nine hundred and fifty
dollars limit for the distinction between a misdemeanor and a felony.
(05:32):
We did not change that in Prop thirty six, but
we said if you have two or more convictions for
petty theft, we can now charge you with a felony,
which is what we used to have, and we lost
that and that's why we have all these thefts and
smashing grabs.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
All right, Todd, I guess it's appropriate to take congratulations,
although you know, based on what so many of us think,
we're just going back to a logical use of the law.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Todd, your voices a little bit out. You've been screaming.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
No. I was with Nathan last night late in Los Angeles,
and I've been doing interviews, and let me just tell you, Bill,
I am so excited that California, at least with respect
to public safety, maybe going back to the middle just
truth in sentencing. Let's just follow the law, follow the evidence,
(06:31):
and protect the public.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Todd Spitzer, da friend over thirty years and district attorney
in Orange County.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Todd, you have a good one. Take care of your voice.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You have a good one, Thanks, Cheryl. Okay, what did
we decide as Californian's last night? And I think the
biggest one was Prop thirty six, which Todd Spitzer just
talked about, and that's bringing accountability back. As he mentioned,
this prop had to do with making sure that criminals
(07:03):
are going to be more accountable. In the aftermath of
the George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement, das
and laws were swept away in terms of how serious
crimes were considered, how crimes were defined, how they were
dealt with.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, this, this brings us back.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
In other words, some of the terms of Prop.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thirty six has to do with theft. Simple theft.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You've got to retail theft, that can be a felony
after two and then fentanyl selling and you know that
becomes a felony.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I mean, it just brings us back to normalcy. So
that was easy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That was seventy percent. Seventy percent we voted. And then
a couple things about money that I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Prop two.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Authorize the state to borrow ten billion dollars to modernize
K through twelve schools and community colleges. As I said
yesterday and a few days before, Californians have never met
a tax they don't like, which is why we have
the highest tax rate in the United States by a
(08:15):
long shot. And this one is not necessarily a tax
per se. It allows the state to borrow money, sell
a bond, and then we pay for it back. So
I guess it's the second tier tax. We voted yes.
Let's borrow another ten billion dollars. We voted yes to
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the tune of fifty six percent. Now another bond ten
billion dollars to help fund the response to climate related disasters, drought, flooding.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Extreme heat in shore, clean drinking water.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
By the way, I voted no on Prop two. Yes
on Prop.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Four dealing with the clean water and flooding and climate
related to disasters.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I voted yes on that one. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Because this is state government, and this climate change has
really taken everybody for a loop. It's really not their fault.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Prop five.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Hey, this is an interest interesting one local governments. It
would be easier for local governments to approve bonds and
tax measures that fund affordable housing and some public infrastructure.
And all it does is require lower the requirement vote
to approve those measures from two thirds to fifty five percent.
(09:37):
You want to know something, we voted no, voted no,
And it could be maybe we've reached the point where
the money that's going to housing and homelessness is.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So high that it almost dwarfs everything else. That's my
take on it.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well might as well, spend our entire budget on homeless
because we're moving in that direction. And this will do
the last one before we take a break. Sorry, I'm
coughing here. This is banning involuntary servitude and in mandatory
work requirement for state prisoners. State prisoners under current law
(10:18):
can be forced to work. And this was called the
Anti Slavery Statute or anti Slavery proposition.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
We voted no.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Clearly we are in favor of slavery in this state.
Slavery is a very popular thing. Not bad you slaveholders,
pro slave people, Okay, so be it. Prop Thirty three
would have allowed cities and counties to enact rent control
(10:51):
to bring in more rent controls cities and counties, for example,
Santa Monica cities would be able to out Santa Monica
out Anamonica Santa Monica with rent control.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That was a big sixty one percent no. That was surprising.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Prop thirty four and I'm surprised that barely passed. Healthcare
providers have to spend most of the revenue they get
from federal prescription drug discount programs on direct patient care,
not advertising, not political ads, straight to patient care. And
(11:28):
it only passed by fifty one percent. Figure that one out.
And by the way, California voters, we approved the measure
to provide permanent funding for medical which is our version
of Medicaid. And right now, the tax on managed health
insurance plans that funds the program is expiring twenty twenty six.
(11:51):
And here's the way these measures are passed. You have taxes,
You have certain measures that are going only on for
three or five, five or ten years, and then the
sunset out because they are for either emergency purposes or
to fund various programs, and then okay, we funded it,
We're done. What ends up happening is that no tax
(12:13):
is ever revoked, even temporary taxes become permanent taxes.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And how why is that?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Because they're always advertised as this won't raise taxes one bit,
you won't pay one penny more for this proposition, and
they leave out the fact that it's supposed to end
next year and it's going to go on forever. Therefore
you're not paying any more than you do now. And
(12:45):
you've got things that go up a quarter of a cent,
another quarter of ascent. And this is how we work
in California. You know, I'm surprised that there isn't this
huge influx or out flux of California is leaving the state.
We have become and we are the most expensive state
in the United States to live in.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Housing is astronomical.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Of course, the cost of gasoline, although it's gone down.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Is more expensive than ever before.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I will also say something about Donald Trump being
pro business. Donald Trump is pro business as long as
your business is not in California.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
He hates California.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And case in point is the salt and salt is
basically eliminating your property taxes to for deductions beyond ten
thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Now, there are people that pay.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Twenty five thousand and thirty thousand dollars in property tax.
Because you have a home that's let's say a two
million dollar house, which is not astronomicals. So you pay
twenty thousand dollars in property tax, you can only deduct
ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Why well, because that was.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Put in, by the way, during Donald Trump's previous administration.
Why well, because it's California has those expensive, expensive tax rates.
You go to a southern state, nothing like that happens.
The other thing is the amount of income you make
your state tax Your federal taxes used to be deductible.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well that changed to a max of ten thousand dollars.
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Because Californians make more money than people in Alabama do.
Because Californians voted against Donald Trump. People in Alabama love
Donald Trump. So let's just say, whatever laws that are
going to be passed helping people out not going to
help California or New York or Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And that's the reality of it. So, by the way, pro.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Business, it's Donald Trump is perceived as so pro business,
which he is for the most part.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Amy, what is the stock market? Earlier?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You had said had been up twelve one hundred points,
which is like beyond astronomical.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
What is it now?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's now up thirteen hundred and sixty nine points. That's unbelievable.
I've never heard of that those numbers going up that high.
You think the perception that President Trump is pro business? Wow,
And we'll see, we'll see. I think that's true. I
think workers are going to be put on a lower run.
(15:26):
I think those people who are working stiffs.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Are and it's a lot of people that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Are working stiff. I don't know if I put myself
in the category. Yeah, I'm pretty stiff, and I work.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's fair gross, thank you. I do believe that middle
class is not going to be treated.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So well under President Trump. I do not believe that,
although he pushed it very hard.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I think you can't. As as who voted for him.
That's exactly that's exactly correct. That's exactly correct.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That he was able to convince the middle class that
he would do better for them than Kamala Harris, which
I believe is the other way around. By the way,
I'm just telling you that. And this is not a
value judgment, this is not a moral judgment. I just
believe you cannot be pro pro business and still be
(16:23):
pro labor at the same time.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
The two just don't work together. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
As I said, we are in for a roller coaster
ride this next four years. As I said before, this
was an election that both the popular vote as well
as the electric college went to Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And no one can argue that this is a democracy.
This is the way it works. And I know people
are very upset. I know people who are very upset
about the election.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Getting texts and it is the level of losing I've
never seen in terms of how upset people are. But
I want to share with you something that you probably
are not going to hear, and that is.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
How Donald Trump handled this election.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I'm talking about a reference to a book that
I'm reading by Bob Woodward called War Bob, Bob Woodward
and Carl Bernstein Fame. Of course, those two broke the
Watergate story and then they wrote a bunch of books,
and Woodward has written dozens of books. Anyway, he's going
through his files and he discusses it in his book
(17:38):
that he keeps the number of files and the records that.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
He keeps like fills garages.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And he's going through his one of his boxes and
he pulls on an envelope and in it was a
taped interview that he did with Donald Trump when Donald
Trump was forty two years old, and talking about how
he Donald Trump made business decisions, and he said, I
always go by my gut. I don't listen to people
around me, and I've made some spectacular deals. The best
(18:09):
deals I've ever made was not listening to people that
were telling me what to do. Fast forward to the election,
Donald Trump was off message. We heard that about his
advisers telling him he was completely off message. He was ranting,
he was talking of personal attacks, he was going off
(18:34):
off message and just going.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
To areas that made no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And he kept on saying, I don't listen to my advisors.
We heard that over and over again, that he's going
contrary to his circle told him what to do, and
he always said, I don't listen to my advisors. I
go with my gut instinct. And his gut instinct worked.
(19:07):
His advisors told them, stay on message, stay on message,
stay on message. His gut instinct is attack, make stuff up.
Why literally, dogs and cats. I would not want to
(19:28):
be a Haitian in Springfield, Ohio going into a pet
store today.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I would not want to do that because, well, what
are you gonna do? Are you gonna get arrested for
eating the dogs? It all worked. The point is.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That Donald Trump, in his own way, clearly knows more
than his advisors ever will, knows more than his business
partners ever will.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
And why is that because he doesn't listen to them.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And here's the scary part is that he is now
president of the United States. He's gonna have advisors around him,
and he's gonna ignore all of them because he wins
by doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
He totally wins.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So we are going to see a president who doesn't
have necessarily more power than other presidents do. I mean
he will if both Congress and the Senate and the
presidency is one house, that one Republican party, of which
he really isn't a Republican. The party is Donald Trump.
(20:33):
There's the Democratic Party, there's the Donald Trump Party.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And then there are a couple of some offshoots. So
prepare yourself. It's going to be a roller coaster ride.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
And I've talked a little bit about it, and we
will be talking more and more as decisions are made.
They're going to take us for a loop. Hey, this
is America, all right? We do this again tomorrow once again.
Wake up call at five o'clock with Amy, then the
rest of the show from six to nine, all of
us jump in, Neil and Me and Kono is always
(21:05):
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