January 7, 2025 • 26 mins
KFI's own Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Tech Tuesday'! Rich talks about all awesome things CES 2025. Ukraine halts transit of Russian gas to Europe after prewar deal expired. Trump’s push for quick passage of ‘One Powerful Bill’ meets realities on Capitol Hill.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Anyway, it is time for Tech Tuesday with Rich demurow.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Rich, who is host of Tech on KFI.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Rich on Tech every Saturday from eleven am to two pms,
the k t L a television tech reporter every day
and on Instagram it is at tech at rich on
Tech website, Rich on tech dot tv. Rich as every
year you go, you are at CES in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Correct, I'm here, yes, correct, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Now here's what we always talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And I asked you the same thing, and that is,
are there any major changes.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
In the world of telephones or computers?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And you always say not really, it's sort of incremental,
however so far the last few years.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And then I turned around and ask.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You, Okay, what do you think is really neat? What
did you pat? What booth did you pass by? And
go wow, that is neat stuff. And I'm going to
just let you do it, because there's a whole list
here that you sent me, and I'm going to let
you just go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You tell me what's out there that you about was great.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Let me let me set the stage first off for CS.
So you know, I've been going to this show for many,
many years. It is a massive show. People come from
all over the world. Over one hundred they're expecting over
you know, almost one hundred and thirty thousand, maybe one
hundred and forty thousand people from all kinds of countries.
And then you know, what have people come here for?
They come here to see the latest gadgets. Over four
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thousand exhibitors. And this year the convention Center has not
opened just yet, so they do a whole bunch of
pre events before the show actually opens this morning. And
so I've been going to all these pre events where
you sort of get much more intimate hands on time
with all of these different products and companies, and then
you go to the big show where it's just one
hundred thousand people in one place. And this year, Bill,
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I don't know if you've been to the Vegas Convention Center,
but they built a whole new wing of it, and
so it's this giant, beautiful convention center. But then they
still have the old convention center and every single bit
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, yes, it's insanely big.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes and so. And then by the way, it also
spills out into the Venetian where they have an expo center.
It used to be the stands, I think, And so
that's another place where you have to go. And then,
by the way, every hotel room, every suite in this
city is taken by a company that is also showing
off stuff privately in addition to the main show. For
so it is a massive undertaking. There's no way to
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truly see it all. But yes, I've been going to
all these events. And of course the big trend is
really A is number one. They're building that into just
about every product. Years ago it was the Internet, Now
it's AI. We're seeing healthcare, we're seeing you know, all
kinds of new motorized devices. But some of the things
I saw so first off, a lot of these robots
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for some reason, I mean, robots have always been a
part of CS, but now, of course they have AI
built in. So I saw this thing called a ropet
which is getting a lot of publicity. It's sort of
it looks like a Gremlin slash Teddy Ruckspin but with AI.
So it's got these big, you know, eyes that light
up and kind of show emotion, and it's an emotional
support robot. So that's kind of a thing that we're seeing.
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A theme is just these little robots that really support
you in different ways. So that was cool. This one
was really fun. So I know Cacup. Ever since the
cacup machine came out, like the coffee machine, every company
has thought, well, can we do that for everything else
in the world, And this is probably the best one
I've seen so far outside of the X. They have
them for cocktails and stuff. But this one's called cold
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Snap and it's basically like a frozen yogurt machine, but
with a cacup style cup. So you put this cup
in the machine. It's a pod. You wait two minutes.
It dispenses either ice cream, a smoothie, protein shake, a
frozen cocktail into a cup and it takes about two minutes.
And the guys, I think he said a six year
old daughter came up with the idea. She said, Hey,
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why can't we make ice cream with a cacup machine,
and so the dad came up with it. And this
is something you're seeing at like car dealerships and things
like that because it's expensive. It's three thousand dollars. But
they told me that they're working on a consumer version
which should be out in the next two years, so
that's kind of cool. Let's see, this is for Los Angeles.
I showed this on KTLA this morning. But this solar
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powered hat. So Eco Flow is a company that makes
all kinds of power products and they have almost looks
like what would be a straw, kind of a floppy
straw hat, but it's all solar panels on the top.
So you put this hat on, you wear it, and
in about two hours outside it'll give your f in
a charge. And it's anywhere from it's about one hundred
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dollars for this hat. But you know, if you go
to like Coachella or something like that, why not wear
this hat. You'll be silly looking, but at least you'll
have your phone.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I mean, what does it look like It actually has
panels on top of your head.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean they're kind of build I gotta say.
They actually gave me one. I said, oh, this thing
is so cool. He said, take it, said, okay, cool,
I'll show that on TV. But it's actually like quite
well done. The solar panels are not big, they're not bulky.
They blend into the hat. I mean, yes, it looks
silly because it's a big, you know, kind of solar
panel hat. But and then you have the cable, of course,
you know, going to your phone. But it's you know,
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it's one of those things where if you're outside all
day and you need to charge, why not? Oh, Bill,
this is interesting. The Eskimo electric skis. So I'm not kidding.
I don't know if you've heard of this before. I
had never, But these are brand new skis that have
sort of a little almost if you've ever been snowmobiling,
that little traction thing that spins on the bottom on
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the bottom of the skis. So now you put these
electric skis on when you go down the hill. If
you want to go back up the hill, these skis
will take you up the hill. You charge them up,
so use that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, so you don't actually have to buy a lift pass,
or you can sneak onto the slopes.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I guess. So, I mean, so the whole point of
the lift pass is what to take you on that
thing that takes you back up to the top of
the mountain.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think, so, you know, I'm not a skier.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But yeah, you're wearing this thing, and I mean, can
you Yeah, I mean it's not like there are there
you know, there's a fence around the slopes at least
I don't think. So that is super neat. I've got
to see that. Yeah, we've got to take a break
and we're going to come back. And when we do,
Rich is going to talk about one of the most
exciting things at the show, both literally and figuratively, how
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they finally combine the Japanese blow up doll with AI.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I'm very excited about hearing about that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Rich. Okay, I will, I will.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Look, you don't, no, you don't want to go there.
That's just me being ridiculous. Out look up Japanese blow
up calls, please and you'll see what I'm talking about, Okay, Rich,
Is it fair to say it could be the biggest
show in the world in terms of a convention kind
of shows, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, it's interesting. So that's that's a longly long debate.
So there is this show called EFA over in Berlin,
which you know, I've been to, and so technically IFA
is bigger because they invite the public to that show
over there in Europe, so people bring their kids. There's
a lot of strollers. This is industry analysts and media only.
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So you have to be in the tech world employed
or as a journalist or a klingon whatever, you know,
if you if you're just kind of like, you know,
faking it, but you do. So they don't let in
the public, and that's the biggest difference. So technically IFA
may have more people attending. It may be a bigger
show because it's like a circus, you know, they sell
like hot dogs and coffee and like, well you're in Germany,
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so they sell pretzels and stuff. So you know, but
this this is pretty big bill.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, one hundred and thirty thousand people. And I assume
you can't get a hotel room. I can't even imagine
what heel rooms cost during ces.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You know. Actually I heard Inklings and I'm not sure
I can't confirm this, but I heard that this year
it wasn't as sold out as in typical years. So
we're going to see what the final count is. You know,
before the pandemic, they were up to like, I think
one hundred and fifty one hundred and sixty thousand people.
Ever since the pandemic, that took a huge toll on
this show and all shows that are in person, right,
(08:33):
because we started using zoom and people said, well, do
we need to be in person? I will tell you,
after the past two days of seeing every human possible
that I interact with on email anywhere in the world,
seeing them in person in one place, there is still
that magic of that human connection seeing someone in person,
saying hello and saying how are you, how's your family,
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what's going on? And I still think that's very necessary
in the business world.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All right, So you're a big fan of seeing people
in person and of everybody you dealt with on email.
How about the post traumatic stress disorder of seeing all
those people?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Bill, There's no there's no recovering from that. No, So
let's do a couple more.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Because one of the things I always ask Rich right
after the CES or during CES is what were some
of your favorite gizmos? I'm crazy about gizmos, uh and
particularly kitchen gizmos. And we had already gone through the
cold snap the machine that makes ice cream with a
little cup. Eco flow power hat. You can charge your
home with your hat, or you charge your phone. The
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best one the Eskimo, the electric skis that you can
go up.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
A hill and skis. You got a couple other ones
that you liked. Let's go through those bill.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Everything is going electric. So they've got this, you know,
I don't know if you ever tried to use one
of those pizza ovens that are very popular, the backsid
pizza ovens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're impossible to make a
good pizza. Either burn the bottom, you burn the top.
It's you know, mushy on the bottom, it's Chris Toy
on the top. So this is from current backyard. Last
year they made a buzz because they came out with
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an electric grill, which you know, of course traditional grillers
made fun of said no, that would never work. And
now of course the big companies are doing the same thing.
But this is their new model. It's the model piece.
Smart pizza oven reaches eight hundred and fifty degrees. It's
connected to Wi Fi and Bluetooth. It's indoor or outdoor.
It is electric. You build the pizza on the app,
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so it knows exactly how to cook it and then
you put it in there. You don't have to rotate it,
you don't have to do anything. Even works with frozen pizzas,
comes out perfectly in two minutes. I have to say,
they did not give me a sample of pizza, so
I can't vouch for how perfect, but it seems like
they did their homework. This is going to be six
hundred dollars, and you know there'll be a subset of
people that want something like that. But yeah, well yeah,
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I mean it's it can be easier. We have one
of those ovens. We don't use it because I try
it once and I can't get the pizza right. I'm
not gonna have people over and make pizzas that are burned.
This was really cool. So this is a company. It's
called Liquid View and they're making what's called a digital window.
It's basically a window that's a TV and you can
put it in your office. You can put it in
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your in your home, home office whatever. Bill. I know
you got a home studio. You might have a great
view from your room. But wouldn't it be cool to
have this view of like Italy or Greece or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh, very silently, very science film is yes.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But not only do they make the window bill, they're
making the eight K videos that you see through the
window that are by the way, SYNCD with the outside.
So if it's six am in Los Angeles, you're seeing
the view six am that you would you know in uh,
you know, downtown Burbank, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, I'm a little confused here. Let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It is an actual window that you buy like a
replacement window.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It looks like a window, but it's actually a TV.
She can just put it on any.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So you just put it on the wall and it
pretends it's a window and you buy into it exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But it's got the you know, you people have been
doing this forever, but they you know, they put a TV,
you got to put the molding around the TV whatever.
But this is like all in one and it's you know,
right now, it's ten thousand bucks, so it's very expensive.
But you know, over time these will come down and
I have you know, the YouTubers have been doing this
for a long time. And TV studios of course, they
have the windows in the back that are faked that
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look real. But this is like for anyone. So I
thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah that is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I'm just thinking, Okay, I buy myself a huge TV,
which they're now eight hundred bucks. I go to Aaron Brothers,
buy a frame for thirty eight dollars, put it around there,
and I've got myself exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Absolutely Now. There are there are many YouTube tutorials about
how to do that. So the trick is, the trick
is built. You know, you've got to you got to
make the video vertical. It's a whole thing. Yeah, I
got a video.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I started pushing pushing your foot there, I got it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
No, no, no, that's I look, if you want to
do it, yeah, why you can. I'm just saying this
is going to make it easier for like the average
person that has ten thousand dollars, which you know obviously
is not a lot of people. Right now, Okay, so
let's see what else was cool. So this thing got
a lot of publicity. You'll probably see it on social
media as you're scrolling through. It's called the Electric Salt Spoon.
It's out of Japan. They've been using it over there,
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but it's a spoon. It's kind of a bigger, oversized
spoon that has an electric current running through it. So
when you put your hand on the handle, there's another
current on the part where your tongue hits. When those
two link up, when you put your tongue on this thing,
for some reason, it activates the salt that's already in
the food and makes it taste saltier to the human
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and so the yeah, great, yeah, you don't have to
add more salt.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So great stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I mean, it's I get pretty excited because I love
the gadget. So Rich, you're the going to be there
for a few more days, right, absolutely, all right, and
we'll probably talk again next week and talk about what
you have discovered since this conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Enjoy yourself, Rich, thanks.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Much, Thank you. Bill.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Tuesday with Rich this Saturday from eleven to two pm.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
As always, let me tell you what's going on in
world politics.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And this is kind of interesting. You probably didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Know this, and that has to do with natural gas
that Russia has, and it has tons of it that
is sold to Europe, which relies on Russia's natural gas
for heating factories, power and the way that Europe receives
natural gas is through a pipeline, like the way we
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deliver natural gas.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
There's two ways of doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Either you have these huge tankers that have liquefied natural gas,
and that costs a fortune to load them up and
bring them under pressure and then take them across the
ocean and then set up these terminals, or a pipeline.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is established where the gas just flows.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, Russia has a pipeline and it goes to Europe
through Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Now, the wars started in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And the natural gas from Russia still went to Europe
and it flowed through Ukrainian pipelines or the Ukrainian pipeline.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You go, how is that they're at war?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
This is crazy? How do they keep ongoing? Well, a
couple of reasons. First of all, Ukraine gets paid for this.
Europe needs it, and Ukraine needs Europe as allies. So
there was a five year deal that expired a few
days ago the end of last year, and up to
this point, Ukraine and Russia still kept the deal going
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while they're killing each other, while the men and equipment
are being destroyed, and the budgets and the finances of
both countries are being wiped out by this war.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, the deal is over.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Both countries adhere to the deal, and now that's over,
and Ukraine says no more, and Russia gets screwed.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Now, Russia gets screwed because it loses a lot of revenue.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Europe gets screwed even more because it relies on natural
gas big time, and what gas does is heat houses
and factories during the winter and power plants. I mean,
it is a big deal to lose natural gas. However,
Europe knew that it was happening. There was a call
to phase out natural gas from Russia and it was
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supplanted by that hugely expensive way of sending liquefied natural
gas via these huge tankers. And so what's going to happen, Well,
it looks like that Russia is going to in fact suffer.
Europe has already anticipated and is moving in the other
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direction away from Russia's natural gas.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's paying more for it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It's going to hurt, especially Moldovia, which is looking at
being incorporated into the European Union.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's going to be hit the most.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And this all happened prior to the Soviet Union breaking up,
when everything was hunky donkey, Is that a I think
that's a legal term, isn't it. When everybody was under
the Soviet Union and all kinds of relations were perfect,
so you had the pipelines established, all gone.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So things are changing.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The company Gazprom, which is Russia, says there's no technical
or legal possibility of sending gas through Ukraine. Why because
Kiev doesn't want to renew renew the deal. Russia would
love the deal to be renewed, but Kiev, Zelensky says,
not a chance. We are prepared to hurt Russia financially,
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and Russia is really struggling with this war, really struggling.
Russia is now a rogue nation financially. Not only politically
it's a road nation, but financially. The US has stamped
down very hard on Russia and its ability to get
foreign currency for its oil, for its gas and other
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goods that Russia produces. It is not fun and we'll
see what happens when the war ends.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Is it gonna end? Of course it is. We're gonna
have during the new administration.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
One of the things that Donald Trump promises that the
war in Ukraine will end the day he gets inaugurated
which you know.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's kind of you know, it's a lot of soaring
rhetoric on that one.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But he is saying that we're gonna stop this war.
Joe Biden, unilateral backer of Ukraine. Done finished, We're on
your side, come hell or highwater. Trump says, we've got
to cut a deal here. This war has to end,
and part of it is bringing back, certainly this natural
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gas pipeline. Just want to share that with you because
the fun takeaway here and until I start looking at this,
I didn't realize it is that in the middle of
this entire war that's going on, the deal between Ukraine
and Russia regarding natural gas, and that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Pipeline has continued on unabated.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Neither side stopped it until the contract was up a
few days ago. Okay, let's go ahead and finish up
the program. And I'm going to do it with a
little bit of presidential politics. Obama once said that as
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he was asked, you know what's it like being president
versus campaigning, And he says, campaigning is easy.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
All you do is say this is what I'm going
to do.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And as soon as someone sits behind that resolute desk,
all of a sudden reality hits. So like every other president,
Donald Trump has made his promises immigration right, shut down
the borders, mass deportations, tax cuts, undoing climate change issues
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that Biden has put into place, all of that, and
he wants it all in one bill, one big, happy bill,
and he is insisting on it now.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
He probably has more power than any.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Other president going in because he controls the Republican Party
unlike any other president that's ever come in, or control
any party, unlike any other president that's ever come in.
And maybe he thinks he's has a shot.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
He's certainly calling for it.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The first one hundred days is very interesting because that
goes back to FDR when Franklin Roosevelt was elected president
just as the depression really started. He became president nineteen
thirty two, the country was collapsing, and in the first
one hundred days he passed all of these measures dealing
with the depression, putting people to work, the bank holiday,
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stopping just stopping banking.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Cold for almost a week.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And it did it with the first hundred days, and
that somehow became you have to have the first hundred days,
and that's what we look at, and a presidency it
means nothing, means nothing, but it is a symbol of
what a president can do and what a Congress can
do to back him or not back him or her
up here here.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
In this case, it's a him.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So he is asking for one big, happy bill, which
he is not going to get. It's just the majority
of Congress, both the Senate and the House, just so thin.
All you need is one or two congress people or
senator to go the other way, and I'll tell you
why he's not going to get some of the stuff
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he wants. And interestingly enough, it's going to be the
hard right wingers who you would think maga Americans, right,
maga legislators, who are so pissed off about the fact
that the arguing about fiscal responsibility does not exist in
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Congress or a presidency anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Done finished.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Two trillion dollar deficit coming up the first year that
Trump is in power. Two trillion dollar deficit when Joe
Biden was president. Now during COVID, I can understand. You know,
we had big, big problems, and you borrow, you borrow,
Like World War Two, we borrowed like crazy to maintain
the war. Like the Civil War, the government borrowed like
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crazy and almost went broke.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But now, just running the country with a two trillion
dollar a year.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Deficit, what do you do with that? Well, it's insurmountable.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
And he's right there saying, Yep, we're gonna spend, We're
gonna spend, We're gonna spend. We're gonna spend because the
tax cuts are coming or are they gonna be Uh,
they're gonna continue on. And those tax cuts cost the economy.
This is money that isn't coming into the government that
should or would be coming in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So we're going to see what happens. But I'll tell
you even as close as.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
People, even Lindsey Graham, are saying things like, you know what,
tax tax issues are very complex, deal with a lot
of different matters. There are so many agencies. I mean,
this is really hard, hard stuff. Border security a lot easier.
Let's separate the two. Let's talk about border security. Deal
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with that right now, which we can do, and we
separate out the financial stuff for later on.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Is that going to happen?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Probably, But then again, you've got President Trump, who pretty
well when it comes to the republic Party, gets what
he wants. I have the window open by the way,
if you can hear what's going on behind me?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Nope, is that the wind?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
No, that's the garbage trucks because I have the window open.
Hang on a minute, let me close the window.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, no, no, no, take your time.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Nothing going on. Is that better?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know what are you weighing it against? Yeah? I
know a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
All right, guys, we're done, sort of getting back in
the groove. Not particularly easy. Takes a while. We'll be
better tomorrow, you, Yeah, we'll be better tomorrow or maybe
the day after, and certainly maybe the day after that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Michael. If today's your last day, nice talking to you.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Amy.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Maybe come I hope she does. It's been fun though.
Wait a minute. Yeah, you don't get paid extra for this.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, so you get to sleep in a little bit
tomorrow if Amy comes back.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
All right, guys, we are done.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I am taking phone calls starting in just a few
moments for handle on the law, questions off the air,
and you can call me at eight seven seven five
two zero eleven fifties.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
First part of the year, first time we're doing it
this year, matter of.
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Rich, who is host of Tech on KFI.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Rich on Tech every Saturday from eleven am to two pms,
the k t L a television tech reporter every day
and on Instagram it is at tech at rich on
Tech website, Rich on tech dot tv. Rich as every
year you go, you are at CES in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Correct, I'm here, yes, correct, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Now here's what we always talk about.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
And I asked you the same thing, and that is,
are there any major changes.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
In the world of telephones or computers?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And you always say not really, it's sort of incremental,
however so far the last few years.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And then I turned around and ask.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
You, Okay, what do you think is really neat? What
did you pat? What booth did you pass by? And
go wow, that is neat stuff. And I'm going to
just let you do it, because there's a whole list
here that you sent me, and I'm going to let
you just go for it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You tell me what's out there that you about was great.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Let me let me set the stage first off for CS.
So you know, I've been going to this show for many,
many years. It is a massive show. People come from
all over the world. Over one hundred they're expecting over
you know, almost one hundred and thirty thousand, maybe one
hundred and forty thousand people from all kinds of countries.
And then you know, what have people come here for?
They come here to see the latest gadgets. Over four
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thousand exhibitors. And this year the convention Center has not
opened just yet, so they do a whole bunch of
pre events before the show actually opens this morning. And
so I've been going to all these pre events where
you sort of get much more intimate hands on time
with all of these different products and companies, and then
you go to the big show where it's just one
hundred thousand people in one place. And this year, Bill,
(02:18):
I don't know if you've been to the Vegas Convention Center,
but they built a whole new wing of it, and
so it's this giant, beautiful convention center. But then they
still have the old convention center and every single bit
of it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, yes, it's insanely big.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes and so. And then by the way, it also
spills out into the Venetian where they have an expo center.
It used to be the stands, I think, And so
that's another place where you have to go. And then,
by the way, every hotel room, every suite in this
city is taken by a company that is also showing
off stuff privately in addition to the main show. For
so it is a massive undertaking. There's no way to
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truly see it all. But yes, I've been going to
all these events. And of course the big trend is
really A is number one. They're building that into just
about every product. Years ago it was the Internet, Now
it's AI. We're seeing healthcare, we're seeing you know, all
kinds of new motorized devices. But some of the things
I saw so first off, a lot of these robots
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for some reason, I mean, robots have always been a
part of CS, but now, of course they have AI
built in. So I saw this thing called a ropet
which is getting a lot of publicity. It's sort of
it looks like a Gremlin slash Teddy Ruckspin but with AI.
So it's got these big, you know, eyes that light
up and kind of show emotion, and it's an emotional
support robot. So that's kind of a thing that we're seeing.
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A theme is just these little robots that really support
you in different ways. So that was cool. This one
was really fun. So I know Cacup. Ever since the
cacup machine came out, like the coffee machine, every company
has thought, well, can we do that for everything else
in the world, And this is probably the best one
I've seen so far outside of the X. They have
them for cocktails and stuff. But this one's called cold
(03:59):
Snap and it's basically like a frozen yogurt machine, but
with a cacup style cup. So you put this cup
in the machine. It's a pod. You wait two minutes.
It dispenses either ice cream, a smoothie, protein shake, a
frozen cocktail into a cup and it takes about two minutes.
And the guys, I think he said a six year
old daughter came up with the idea. She said, Hey,
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why can't we make ice cream with a cacup machine,
and so the dad came up with it. And this
is something you're seeing at like car dealerships and things
like that because it's expensive. It's three thousand dollars. But
they told me that they're working on a consumer version
which should be out in the next two years, so
that's kind of cool. Let's see, this is for Los Angeles.
I showed this on KTLA this morning. But this solar
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powered hat. So Eco Flow is a company that makes
all kinds of power products and they have almost looks
like what would be a straw, kind of a floppy
straw hat, but it's all solar panels on the top.
So you put this hat on, you wear it, and
in about two hours outside it'll give your f in
a charge. And it's anywhere from it's about one hundred
(05:03):
dollars for this hat. But you know, if you go
to like Coachella or something like that, why not wear
this hat. You'll be silly looking, but at least you'll
have your phone.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I mean, what does it look like It actually has
panels on top of your head.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean they're kind of build I gotta say.
They actually gave me one. I said, oh, this thing
is so cool. He said, take it, said, okay, cool,
I'll show that on TV. But it's actually like quite
well done. The solar panels are not big, they're not bulky.
They blend into the hat. I mean, yes, it looks
silly because it's a big, you know, kind of solar
panel hat. But and then you have the cable, of course,
you know, going to your phone. But it's you know,
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it's one of those things where if you're outside all
day and you need to charge, why not? Oh, Bill,
this is interesting. The Eskimo electric skis. So I'm not kidding.
I don't know if you've heard of this before. I
had never, But these are brand new skis that have
sort of a little almost if you've ever been snowmobiling,
that little traction thing that spins on the bottom on
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the bottom of the skis. So now you put these
electric skis on when you go down the hill. If
you want to go back up the hill, these skis
will take you up the hill. You charge them up,
so use that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, so you don't actually have to buy a lift pass,
or you can sneak onto the slopes.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I guess. So, I mean, so the whole point of
the lift pass is what to take you on that
thing that takes you back up to the top of
the mountain.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think, so, you know, I'm not a skier.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But yeah, you're wearing this thing, and I mean, can
you Yeah, I mean it's not like there are there
you know, there's a fence around the slopes at least
I don't think. So that is super neat. I've got
to see that. Yeah, we've got to take a break
and we're going to come back. And when we do,
Rich is going to talk about one of the most
exciting things at the show, both literally and figuratively, how
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they finally combine the Japanese blow up doll with AI.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And I'm very excited about hearing about that.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Rich. Okay, I will, I will.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Look, you don't, no, you don't want to go there.
That's just me being ridiculous. Out look up Japanese blow
up calls, please and you'll see what I'm talking about, Okay, Rich,
Is it fair to say it could be the biggest
show in the world in terms of a convention kind
of shows, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Well, it's interesting. So that's that's a longly long debate.
So there is this show called EFA over in Berlin,
which you know, I've been to, and so technically IFA
is bigger because they invite the public to that show
over there in Europe, so people bring their kids. There's
a lot of strollers. This is industry analysts and media only.
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So you have to be in the tech world employed
or as a journalist or a klingon whatever, you know,
if you if you're just kind of like, you know,
faking it, but you do. So they don't let in
the public, and that's the biggest difference. So technically IFA
may have more people attending. It may be a bigger
show because it's like a circus, you know, they sell
like hot dogs and coffee and like, well you're in Germany,
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so they sell pretzels and stuff. So you know, but
this this is pretty big bill.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, one hundred and thirty thousand people. And I assume
you can't get a hotel room. I can't even imagine
what heel rooms cost during ces.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
You know. Actually I heard Inklings and I'm not sure
I can't confirm this, but I heard that this year
it wasn't as sold out as in typical years. So
we're going to see what the final count is. You know,
before the pandemic, they were up to like, I think
one hundred and fifty one hundred and sixty thousand people.
Ever since the pandemic, that took a huge toll on
this show and all shows that are in person, right,
(08:33):
because we started using zoom and people said, well, do
we need to be in person? I will tell you,
after the past two days of seeing every human possible
that I interact with on email anywhere in the world,
seeing them in person in one place, there is still
that magic of that human connection seeing someone in person,
saying hello and saying how are you, how's your family,
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what's going on? And I still think that's very necessary
in the business world.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All right, So you're a big fan of seeing people
in person and of everybody you dealt with on email.
How about the post traumatic stress disorder of seeing all
those people?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Bill, There's no there's no recovering from that. No, So
let's do a couple more.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Because one of the things I always ask Rich right
after the CES or during CES is what were some
of your favorite gizmos? I'm crazy about gizmos, uh and
particularly kitchen gizmos. And we had already gone through the
cold snap the machine that makes ice cream with a
little cup. Eco flow power hat. You can charge your
home with your hat, or you charge your phone. The
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best one the Eskimo, the electric skis that you can
go up.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
A hill and skis. You got a couple other ones
that you liked. Let's go through those bill.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Everything is going electric. So they've got this, you know,
I don't know if you ever tried to use one
of those pizza ovens that are very popular, the backsid
pizza ovens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're impossible to make a
good pizza. Either burn the bottom, you burn the top.
It's you know, mushy on the bottom, it's Chris Toy
on the top. So this is from current backyard. Last
year they made a buzz because they came out with
(10:08):
an electric grill, which you know, of course traditional grillers
made fun of said no, that would never work. And
now of course the big companies are doing the same thing.
But this is their new model. It's the model piece.
Smart pizza oven reaches eight hundred and fifty degrees. It's
connected to Wi Fi and Bluetooth. It's indoor or outdoor.
It is electric. You build the pizza on the app,
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so it knows exactly how to cook it and then
you put it in there. You don't have to rotate it,
you don't have to do anything. Even works with frozen pizzas,
comes out perfectly in two minutes. I have to say,
they did not give me a sample of pizza, so
I can't vouch for how perfect, but it seems like
they did their homework. This is going to be six
hundred dollars, and you know there'll be a subset of
people that want something like that. But yeah, well yeah,
(10:50):
I mean it's it can be easier. We have one
of those ovens. We don't use it because I try
it once and I can't get the pizza right. I'm
not gonna have people over and make pizzas that are burned.
This was really cool. So this is a company. It's
called Liquid View and they're making what's called a digital window.
It's basically a window that's a TV and you can
put it in your office. You can put it in
(11:11):
your in your home, home office whatever. Bill. I know
you got a home studio. You might have a great
view from your room. But wouldn't it be cool to
have this view of like Italy or Greece or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Oh, very silently, very science film is yes.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But not only do they make the window bill, they're
making the eight K videos that you see through the
window that are by the way, SYNCD with the outside.
So if it's six am in Los Angeles, you're seeing
the view six am that you would you know in uh,
you know, downtown Burbank, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, I'm a little confused here. Let me get this straight.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It is an actual window that you buy like a
replacement window.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
It looks like a window, but it's actually a TV.
She can just put it on any.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So you just put it on the wall and it
pretends it's a window and you buy into it exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But it's got the you know, you people have been
doing this forever, but they you know, they put a TV,
you got to put the molding around the TV whatever.
But this is like all in one and it's you know,
right now, it's ten thousand bucks, so it's very expensive.
But you know, over time these will come down and
I have you know, the YouTubers have been doing this
for a long time. And TV studios of course, they
have the windows in the back that are faked that
(12:23):
look real. But this is like for anyone. So I
thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah that is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I'm just thinking, Okay, I buy myself a huge TV,
which they're now eight hundred bucks. I go to Aaron Brothers,
buy a frame for thirty eight dollars, put it around there,
and I've got myself exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Absolutely Now. There are there are many YouTube tutorials about
how to do that. So the trick is, the trick
is built. You know, you've got to you got to
make the video vertical. It's a whole thing. Yeah, I
got a video.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I started pushing pushing your foot there, I got it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
No, no, no, that's I look, if you want to
do it, yeah, why you can. I'm just saying this
is going to make it easier for like the average
person that has ten thousand dollars, which you know obviously
is not a lot of people. Right now, Okay, so
let's see what else was cool. So this thing got
a lot of publicity. You'll probably see it on social
media as you're scrolling through. It's called the Electric Salt Spoon.
It's out of Japan. They've been using it over there,
(13:18):
but it's a spoon. It's kind of a bigger, oversized
spoon that has an electric current running through it. So
when you put your hand on the handle, there's another
current on the part where your tongue hits. When those
two link up, when you put your tongue on this thing,
for some reason, it activates the salt that's already in
the food and makes it taste saltier to the human
(13:38):
and so the yeah, great, yeah, you don't have to
add more salt.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So great stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I mean, it's I get pretty excited because I love
the gadget. So Rich, you're the going to be there
for a few more days, right, absolutely, all right, and
we'll probably talk again next week and talk about what
you have discovered since this conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Enjoy yourself, Rich, thanks.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Much, Thank you. Bill.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Tuesday with Rich this Saturday from eleven to two pm.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
As always, let me tell you what's going on in
world politics.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And this is kind of interesting. You probably didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Know this, and that has to do with natural gas
that Russia has, and it has tons of it that
is sold to Europe, which relies on Russia's natural gas
for heating factories, power and the way that Europe receives
natural gas is through a pipeline, like the way we
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deliver natural gas.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
There's two ways of doing it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Either you have these huge tankers that have liquefied natural gas,
and that costs a fortune to load them up and
bring them under pressure and then take them across the
ocean and then set up these terminals, or a pipeline.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is established where the gas just flows.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, Russia has a pipeline and it goes to Europe
through Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Now, the wars started in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
And the natural gas from Russia still went to Europe
and it flowed through Ukrainian pipelines or the Ukrainian pipeline.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You go, how is that they're at war?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
This is crazy? How do they keep ongoing? Well, a
couple of reasons. First of all, Ukraine gets paid for this.
Europe needs it, and Ukraine needs Europe as allies. So
there was a five year deal that expired a few
days ago the end of last year, and up to
this point, Ukraine and Russia still kept the deal going
(15:38):
while they're killing each other, while the men and equipment
are being destroyed, and the budgets and the finances of
both countries are being wiped out by this war.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, the deal is over.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Both countries adhere to the deal, and now that's over,
and Ukraine says no more, and Russia gets screwed.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Now, Russia gets screwed because it loses a lot of revenue.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Europe gets screwed even more because it relies on natural
gas big time, and what gas does is heat houses
and factories during the winter and power plants. I mean,
it is a big deal to lose natural gas. However,
Europe knew that it was happening. There was a call
to phase out natural gas from Russia and it was
(16:31):
supplanted by that hugely expensive way of sending liquefied natural
gas via these huge tankers. And so what's going to happen, Well,
it looks like that Russia is going to in fact suffer.
Europe has already anticipated and is moving in the other
(16:52):
direction away from Russia's natural gas.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's paying more for it.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
It's going to hurt, especially Moldovia, which is looking at
being incorporated into the European Union.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
That's going to be hit the most.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
And this all happened prior to the Soviet Union breaking up,
when everything was hunky donkey, Is that a I think
that's a legal term, isn't it. When everybody was under
the Soviet Union and all kinds of relations were perfect,
so you had the pipelines established, all gone.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So things are changing.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
The company Gazprom, which is Russia, says there's no technical
or legal possibility of sending gas through Ukraine. Why because
Kiev doesn't want to renew renew the deal. Russia would
love the deal to be renewed, but Kiev, Zelensky says,
not a chance. We are prepared to hurt Russia financially,
(17:52):
and Russia is really struggling with this war, really struggling.
Russia is now a rogue nation financially. Not only politically
it's a road nation, but financially. The US has stamped
down very hard on Russia and its ability to get
foreign currency for its oil, for its gas and other
(18:13):
goods that Russia produces. It is not fun and we'll
see what happens when the war ends.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Is it gonna end? Of course it is. We're gonna
have during the new administration.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
One of the things that Donald Trump promises that the
war in Ukraine will end the day he gets inaugurated
which you know.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
It's kind of you know, it's a lot of soaring
rhetoric on that one.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But he is saying that we're gonna stop this war.
Joe Biden, unilateral backer of Ukraine. Done finished, We're on
your side, come hell or highwater. Trump says, we've got
to cut a deal here. This war has to end,
and part of it is bringing back, certainly this natural
(18:54):
gas pipeline. Just want to share that with you because
the fun takeaway here and until I start looking at this,
I didn't realize it is that in the middle of
this entire war that's going on, the deal between Ukraine
and Russia regarding natural gas, and that.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Pipeline has continued on unabated.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Neither side stopped it until the contract was up a
few days ago. Okay, let's go ahead and finish up
the program. And I'm going to do it with a
little bit of presidential politics. Obama once said that as
(19:38):
he was asked, you know what's it like being president
versus campaigning, And he says, campaigning is easy.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
All you do is say this is what I'm going
to do.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And as soon as someone sits behind that resolute desk,
all of a sudden reality hits. So like every other president,
Donald Trump has made his promises immigration right, shut down
the borders, mass deportations, tax cuts, undoing climate change issues
(20:06):
that Biden has put into place, all of that, and
he wants it all in one bill, one big, happy bill,
and he is insisting on it now.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
He probably has more power than any.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Other president going in because he controls the Republican Party
unlike any other president that's ever come in, or control
any party, unlike any other president that's ever come in.
And maybe he thinks he's has a shot.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
He's certainly calling for it.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The first one hundred days is very interesting because that
goes back to FDR when Franklin Roosevelt was elected president
just as the depression really started. He became president nineteen
thirty two, the country was collapsing, and in the first
one hundred days he passed all of these measures dealing
with the depression, putting people to work, the bank holiday,
(20:59):
stopping just stopping banking.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Cold for almost a week.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And it did it with the first hundred days, and
that somehow became you have to have the first hundred days,
and that's what we look at, and a presidency it
means nothing, means nothing, but it is a symbol of
what a president can do and what a Congress can
do to back him or not back him or her
up here here.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
In this case, it's a him.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
So he is asking for one big, happy bill, which
he is not going to get. It's just the majority
of Congress, both the Senate and the House, just so thin.
All you need is one or two congress people or
senator to go the other way, and I'll tell you
why he's not going to get some of the stuff
(21:46):
he wants. And interestingly enough, it's going to be the
hard right wingers who you would think maga Americans, right,
maga legislators, who are so pissed off about the fact
that the arguing about fiscal responsibility does not exist in
(22:07):
Congress or a presidency anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Done finished.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Two trillion dollar deficit coming up the first year that
Trump is in power. Two trillion dollar deficit when Joe
Biden was president. Now during COVID, I can understand. You know,
we had big, big problems, and you borrow, you borrow,
Like World War Two, we borrowed like crazy to maintain
the war. Like the Civil War, the government borrowed like
(22:35):
crazy and almost went broke.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I can see that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But now, just running the country with a two trillion
dollar a year.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Deficit, what do you do with that? Well, it's insurmountable.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
And he's right there saying, Yep, we're gonna spend, We're
gonna spend, We're gonna spend. We're gonna spend because the
tax cuts are coming or are they gonna be Uh,
they're gonna continue on. And those tax cuts cost the economy.
This is money that isn't coming into the government that
should or would be coming in.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
So we're going to see what happens. But I'll tell
you even as close as.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
People, even Lindsey Graham, are saying things like, you know what,
tax tax issues are very complex, deal with a lot
of different matters. There are so many agencies. I mean,
this is really hard, hard stuff. Border security a lot easier.
Let's separate the two. Let's talk about border security. Deal
(23:37):
with that right now, which we can do, and we
separate out the financial stuff for later on.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Is that going to happen?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Probably, But then again, you've got President Trump, who pretty
well when it comes to the republic Party, gets what
he wants. I have the window open by the way,
if you can hear what's going on behind me?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Nope, is that the wind?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
No, that's the garbage trucks because I have the window open.
Hang on a minute, let me close the window.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, no, no, no, take your time.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Nothing going on. Is that better?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
You know what are you weighing it against? Yeah? I
know a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
All right, guys, we're done, sort of getting back in
the groove. Not particularly easy. Takes a while. We'll be
better tomorrow, you, Yeah, we'll be better tomorrow or maybe
the day after, and certainly maybe the day after that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Michael. If today's your last day, nice talking to you.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Amy.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Maybe come I hope she does. It's been fun though.
Wait a minute. Yeah, you don't get paid extra for this.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, so you get to sleep in a little bit
tomorrow if Amy comes back.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
All right, guys, we are done.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I am taking phone calls starting in just a few
moments for handle on the law, questions off the air,
and you can call me at eight seven seven five
two zero eleven fifties.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
First part of the year, first time we're doing it
this year, matter of.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Facts, the first time we're doing a lot of stuff
because it's the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
God. That is deep.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, there's analys now, this is serious analysis here.
Eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty. Eight seven
seven five two zero eleven fifty. Con No, don't give
me that look of complete disgust. Yeah, just don't do that,
all right. Eight seven seven five two zero eleven fifty.
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