BHS - 8A –TikTok Sell-Or-Ban Bill | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany

Congress passes TikTok sell-or-ban bill, but legal battles loom. AI-powered cameras on metro buses will help ticket parked cars. Dr. Jim Keany, Co-Director of the Emergency Room at Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about weight loss & weight loss treaments. 

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Amy reported this maybe half an hourago that the President did sign that bill
that was passed by the Senate andwas passed by the House a few days
ago, and it had to dowith a to Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan.
Actually it turned out to be fourdifferent bills. This is what Mike
Johnson was able to get through Congress. And there's a whole political issue there,

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which we've talked about and probably we'lltalk about again. Senate passed it
very quickly. The President signed itthis morning. Well, in that bill
is a restriction on TikTok, notjust a restriction. It says TikTok has

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to be sold this year. Youhave a year to sell it, or
we're just going to ban it.It's not going to happen in the United
States. That's all in a countryhas the right to do that or has
the ability to do that, whetherit has a right to do that as
something else that goes to the courts. But it looks like I think it's
going to pass. So fite dance. TikTok's parent company, based in Beijing

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has a year to sell, andof course they're fighting this like crazy,
overwhelming bipartisan support in both chambers theSenate seventy nine to eighteen, the House
three sixty to fifty eight. Presidentsigned it. The proponents of this bill
say, hey, the app posesa national security risks. That's simple owned

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by the Chinese. Everything that isChinese reports to or should or can or
may report to the Chinese Party,which is the government, so they have
they can control it now right now, TikTok saying, oh, no,
no, no, we don't reportanything to the government, and if we
were asked to, we wouldn't doit. Okay, the Chinese government telling

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a Chinese based company to do something, and the company says, go pound
sand yep, that's realistic. Backwe go to the chances of me becoming
Rex the Wonderhorse in the next tenminutes, TikTok says, the Chinese government
hasn't requested Americans user data, Okay, But then the argument is when no

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public evidence that the app is beingused to spy on US citizens, well
that's what TikTok is saying, okay. However, reports credible reports that TikTok's
American operation has really struggled to fullyseparate from the Chinese parent who is based

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in Beijing, who owns TikTok,and they're going to fight it in court.
That's worked in the past instantly forTikTok. Former President Trump attempted to
ban TikTok and that was blocked bya federal judge on First Amendment grounds.

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And by the way, if itis forced to sell, that's not easy.
TikTok is worth tens of billions ofdollars, so you're only looking at
super wealthy investors or investment firms thatcould afford it. Now, Former Treasury
Sectuary Stephen Mnuchin said he's organizing investorsto bid on the app. Chinese government

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is going to try to block thesale of TikTok the algorithm, which would
force a buyer to sort of rebuildthat opponent. And then you've got the
politics of this of course they're alwayspolitics, isn't it. And this has
to do with the presidential election Trumpwho previously attempted to block the app posted

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on true Social Just so everyone knows, especially young people, crooket Joe Biden
is responsible for banning TikTok. Whywould he say that? Why would he
change his tune? Well, becausewho is opposed to the banning far more
than any other group? Young people, because they use TikTok. And it's

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important to do a TikTok challenge jumpingoff an eighteen wheeler doing sixty five miles
an hour on the freeway and jumpingoff head first. Would you accept the
TikTok challenge? TikTok, of course, used by what one hundred and thirty
or one hundred and seventy million Americans. Let me tell you, whoever controls

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tik talk has a lot of influence. And is there any question, any
question that we have interference, thatthe Chinese the Russians interfere with our elections?
You bet you? All right,we'll see what happens with that one.
This is the story in the LaTimes that I looked at and you
go, wait a minute, it'sI mean it makes sense, but it's

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kind of really so. AI poweredcameras are being installed on La Metro buses
all right, but only to helpticket cars parked in bus lanes, and
testing is planned for this summer.The program expected to go live across the
whole system by the end of theyear, and after two months of community

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outreache reached to ensure the public isaware of the purpose timing impacts of the
new program. Hey, you're goingto get a ticket if you park in
a bus lane. That's the impact. And once cameras are installed, there's
a sixty day warning period and duringthe first sixty days warning citations will only

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be used as informational notices and willnot result in any violations. Wait a
minute, you're in a bus laneand we just have another tool to snag
you sixty days and you have tobe warned that we're using AI. I

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mean, that's crazy. So thecameras are mounted inside Metro bus windshields and
they monitor for park vehicles in buslanes and bus stops because it's going to
help enforce new parking rules after theLa City Council approved a fine last year
for people illegally parked in bus laneshang on a minute, Does that mean

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that prior to last year there wasn'ta fine? Am I reading this correctly?
A metro board report came out saidblocking bus stop zones can create accessibility
issues for passengers with disabilities. Whyis that because as the bus pulls up

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and someone's in a wheelchair or disabled, what happens is that the steps sort
of comes out hydraulically and goes andmatches the curb, much like an elevator,
comes right up to the level ofthe floor and just roll across it.
Same thing with metro buses. That'sthe technology. It's been around forever.

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And if the bus lane is blocked, then the bus is outside is
on the other side of the illegallyparked car, and therefore someone in a
wheelchair can't get into the bus.And now they're going to find people that
should be equivalent to a violation ofhandicapped parking placard or spot. I mean,

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that's the point of this. Andso now what they're going to do
is they're bringing out these cameras andwhat they do is constantly scan for illegally
parked cars and the technology is trainedonly to record when a potential violation is
observed, and therefore you now haveAI kicking in, although I don't know

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how much AI you really need forthis, And that's the only time it
records. And then once the recordingis made, it's submitted to the LA
Department of Transportation, where a humanbeing assesses whether a ticket should be issued.
Wow. By the way, theuse of video imaging to enforced parking
violations was legalized three years ago.Now, footage that does not include a

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parking violation has to be destroyed withinfifteen days. Any recording of a parking
violation can be retained for six monthsor sixty days after the final this position,
and a person who is ticketed willhave access to the video can challenge
the violation, as in I wasn'tthere, that's not me, that's not

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my car. Wow. Now Ithink you can somehow fight it. For
example, you're turning right and you'regoing through where the bus lane is.
All right, I mean, that'san argument there, But for the most
part, it can figure out whetheryou're moving or not, whether you're parked

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or not. I don't know theextent of the AI, but man,
I don't get warning periods and We'reonly an issue within sixty days a notice
saying you've been a bad boy.As far as I'm concerned, cameras on
metrolinks should scan the entire street constantly. You go to London, there is

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not one foot that you can walkoutside on the street or drive that you
are not monitored by television, television, cameras, closed systems, that computer.
Well, I think it's at leastpeople are looking at what kind of
privacy do you have? I'm fine, for example, someone's committing a crime,

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or there's a hit and run,or there's an accident and a bus
is anywhere near it. Boy,there's the video that helps, so don't
park in bus lanes. But you'llget to give a ninety days warning if
they use that camera. All right, doesn't make much sense, but there's
the law. Being woosey and wimpy. Doctor Jim Keeney, who is our

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er docs specialist all things medical,Good morning, Jim, good morning.
Oh there you go. All right. A couple of topics I want to
cover in this particular of interest tome and that is a weight loss.
Two things that I really really lookat and just simply part of my life.
Is one weight loss, the medicineof weight loss, and the other

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one is penis extensions. Now thelatter, I've basically tried everything, and
we're putting that one to bed,so we're we're not going to deal with
that. Let's talk about weight loss. And science is telling us that your
weight loss will plateau, and Idon't know what that means. I know

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what plateauing is. Does that meanyou reach a point where you just can't
lose any more weight? Yeah,I mean anyone who's gone on a diet
or tried to lose weight will tellyou that that. As you at first,
it seems like the weight just comesoff right. And some of that
is because as you go into amore ketosis and you're consuming fat instead of

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sugar within your body for energy,you're using the stored fat. Then you
lose a lot of water with that, and so initially the tound seem to
just come off relatively easy. Thenonce you've lost that water weight, now
you're starting to actually lose fat andalong with it some muscle if you're not
working out, And then the weightcontinues but at a slower rate, and

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finally you'll hit this point where yourbody kind of goes into survival mode and
you'll plateau. You will have amuch harder time losing weight. Used to
be thought that was and actually Idid some research in this and undergrad is
that it's a survival mechanism where yourmetabolic rate slows down to try and compensate

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and you just don't need as manycalories. Well, this latest study now
seems to challenge that and say,look, it's actually that your survival mechanism
kicks in and your desire to eatgets so strong that the struggle to not
eat is greater and you end uptaking in more calories. Now here's a
question, and that is a bigfan of bariatric surgery, as you know.

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And I was really overweight, likeone hundred over one hundred pounds,
and I do commercials for West Medthat do bariatric surgery, so you know,
as I said, I'm a bigfan. So here I am over
three hundred pounds and I start droppingweight because it really works. I mean,
your stomach is the size of yourthumb and you drop drop, drop
drop, and as the stomach expands, you eat more. But I was

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going to keep on going there,and I got to one hundred and seventy
three pounds from over three hundred.Let me tell you one hundred and seventy
three pounds on my frame, Icould have easily been an extra in a
Holocaust movie. And now I putweight back on, but I could have
kept on going. So is thatit seems almost counterintuitive to what you're saying.

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No, I think people do getit. Like I said that,
when you get into that ketosis kindof state where you're eating so little,
you're in starvation mode, you loseyour app and uh, and there is
a sense that you can keep going. The problem is once you stop,
you know, once you go backand you're not in ketosis, then all
of a sudden you get an appetiteback, and you start that cycle of

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hunger, uh, satisfied, hungersatisfied, and you flip back and forth
and that drives your body to wantmore calories and eventually then you start gaining
some weight again. Okay, butdo you gain We don't gain nearly as
much weight, I'm assuming because wellto where you were. I mean,

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theoretically you could and there and thereare people that do, but it's it's
much more rare. With beriatric surgery. It is very effective because it really
cuts. Like you said, besides, your stomach's only so much you can
fit in there, but you'd beshocked. I mean, people who are
really addicted to food and eating willfind a way, they find a way
to get those calories in and uhand so it's not impossible, but it's

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much harder. So that's why it'sso effective. It's just such an effective
way to lose weight. And letme ask about people that are hugely overweight.
We see people that are three fourhundred pounds and they're waddling around or
they can't even walk very well,and they're in those fat people scooters at
the costco or the supermarkets. Alsopeople who have disability issues. How do

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you get to that point? Becauseyou know, even at my biggest I
was I said, over three hundredpounds, I couldn't imagine gaining another two
hundred pounds. Is there just somethingjust that the brain is just wired wrong
and there's something inherently wrong. It'snot just that appetite, well, I

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mean, it's it is a lotlike other things like how does some of
the smoke two packs a day,you know, or three packs a day?
You get to a point where youget accustomed to a certain amount of
eating and certain type so high.You know, unfortunately, we are just
have easy access to high calorie densefoods, just super high calorie dense foods,

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and then they add flavoring and saltsand everything else that will drive you
to want to ethos even more.I mean, that's what the food industry
is about, right, It's abouttrying to get those limited number of stomachs
across the United States as full aspossible with their product. So they do
whatever it takes to make you wantto choose their product over something else,
and things that are calorie dense andheavily salted and flavored usually are the ones

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that win. So those are packagedthings. And then it gets it,
doesn't It's not that hard at thatpoint to keep gaining weight if that's what
you're going to eat, Okay,you know, if a salad isn't part
of your daily routine, then it'sa lot easier to gain that much weight.
And Jim, we're obviously talking aboutweight loss and various aspects of it.

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The FDA is being asked to approvethe weight loss drugs, the magic
pill weight loss drugs which seem towork for sleep apnea. Is it one
of those Gee, this was amistake or this was newly discovered during the
testing phase, like monoxidial and otherdrugs. It sounded like that's what occurred.

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Yeah, that or maybe my otherthought is, you know, they're
looking for a way to get thisdrug FDA improved or something that's covered by
insurances. So you know, ifyou if you lose weight, we know
that you improve sleep apnea, andso in these studies, the people lost
an average of twenty percent of theirbody weight and then they had an improvement

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in their sleep apnea. There maybe some other mechanism that's driving it that's
non weight loss related as well,but I don't know if they've sorted all
that out yet. Either way,if you can improve something that we know
is also associated with severe problems,that maybd and the insurance companies will pay

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for this. And is this oneof the things that really is motivated by
trying to get the drug covered underany circumstance by insurance or is this we
found something very legitimate and we're movingin that direction and we want the FDA
to approve this. We're both yes, it impossible to do. Maybe it's

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both. You know, that's that'sthe goal, right, is that it's
a win win, that that it'ssomething that actually helps a different Well,
again, we can start looking atall the different spin offs of what access
weight causes in your body and thenall the improvements you get, and if
you can then link this drug toimproving those individual things and then have it

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as a treatment for it. Let'sface it, with drug companies, it
is they're they're doing a mathematical calculationon how much they're going to make.
It's not on how many people they'regoing to save us early. And so
I think that the money drives it, and if any benefit is secondary,
then that's great. Yeah, andquickly point out that all of these weight

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loss drugs, of course have notgone generic, not even close yet.
So I think the minimum cost isone thousand dollars a month up to fourteen
hundred dollars a month. And Iunderstand you have to keep ongoing with them.
It's not as if you've procured anything. You get to pay one thousand
dollars a month basically forever, right, I mean, yeah, these when

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you stop these drugs, you gainall the weight back and like a lot
of diets, you can gain allthe weight back plus some. It's because
once you've reset your appetite using thesedrugs and so you're able to lose weight
by not being as hungry all thetime and being more successful eating less.
And then how you pull that awayand you're back to your original level of

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hunger and desire to eat. Andeven if you gain it back just a
couple pounds at a time, youknow it slowly comes back. So the
bottom line is you want to naturallycurb your appetite and lose weight over a
period of time, and that's probablythe most successful long term weight loss program.
May no, maybe beriatric surgery iseven better than that. Sure worked

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for me. Well yeah, no, yeah, eriatric surgery it definitely has
some long term effects. When wewere talking about the plateau in the earlier
segment, today, the bariatric surgerypeople typically, I know you said you
could have kept going and going,but that most people do hit a plateau
where they can't lose any more weight. Sometimes that's below their ideal body weight,

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and they're happy with those results andthey're able to eat and maintain ideal
body weight. But for other peopleit is above their what they wanted as
their ideal body weight. And soit's not always the way you've experienced it,
but everybody hits a plateau eventually.That's kind of a good thing because
if everyone experienced what you did andthey could just stop eating, then they
could. People would start to death, they would have no drive to eat,

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and they would actually lose too muchweight. I'm adding a new part
of our segment every Wednesday that's goingto become a regular and that is at
the end of the segment, asI say goodbye, I will be asking
you, did you kill anybody thispast week? Are you okay with that?
Yeah? I'm fine with that.Yeah, okay, the count is
zero this week. It's okay.We'll talk again next week. Hi,

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Jim, I have a good dayhere. All right, We're gone,
guys, tomorrow morning, come backagain with Amy and wake Up Call.
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Handles Show podcast to try to dothat stuff that I can't or won't say

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