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June 11, 2025 24 mins
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GOP split on whether Trump’s bill will grow or shrink the deficit. Height filters are taking off on dating apps like Tinder. Are they getting in the way of finding love? Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about RFK Jr firing the entire US vaccine committee, British doctors prescribing poo pills, and cold plunges… are they actually good for you?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings kf I AM six forty. The bill handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio f Comano. How come
you're not playing every color, every cover of Sounds of
Silence like you started this morning? How many are there?
Do we have any idea how many covers there are?

(00:20):
I mean there have to be dozens and dozens. I
can finish the show with them, for sure. Oh yeah,
why not? You know, make me miserable. You know, I'm
in a pretty decent mood this morning, So let's straighten
that one out. Okay, bring me back to normal if
you would. Sound of Silence Sounds only covers? Oh covers only?
Oh no? And bad covers? Okay. High school performances are

(00:46):
very strong. I gave you good covers, though disturbed, No, no, no.
When you have a song that is a classic, I
mean just in and of itself, and part of its
wonder is the original artist. The rest of it is crapple.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
All right, Moving over, what's more amazing than the trolls
singing sounds?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well said, yeah, well said, yeah, exactly. The Trump Budget,
which in the House passed by one vote, the big
beautiful bill, and what it does either it adds to
the deficit or it takes away from the deficit. But
what it does do is cut social programs. And that's

(01:30):
a decision that the Trump administration has made. If you
are going to increase spenditure dramatically, then something's got to
give on the other side, You've got to cut in
other ways, and even to make it neutral. Now, keep
in mind, we're in deficit every year a trillion dollars

(01:51):
or north of that. I mean, that's insanity that we're
going into our national debt, which is now thirty six
billion trillion dollars. I remember when Obama left office and
Donald Trump was screaming about twenty billion, twenty trillion dollars.
He was right, how insurmountable that is. He was absolutely right.

(02:12):
Now it's thirty six trillion dollars. I mean, come on,
And I always thought at some point it's going to collapse.
It has to. It's a house of cards. How can
you keep on going? How can you spend more money
than you have every single year? So let's say you

(02:33):
make one hundred thousand dollars a year income and you
spend one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. How
long can that continue? Well, it seems that with the
federal government, which has no controls, I mean, it can
print all the money it wants and the only thing
that keeps it from printing more and more and more

(02:56):
money is the fear of inflation where the entire economy
falls apart. So it's a really thin line, is what
the Feds are about. This is what the Fed is
about is drafting or navigating that line with interest rates.
And so here we are federal government able to go
into debt as much as it wants. Now, keep in mind,

(03:17):
states can't do that. California has to balance its budget
every year, that's our constitution. The City of Los Angeles
has to balance its budget. The federal government does not
have to balance its budget. So what's going on. Well,
President Trump, like many other presidents, has said, we're going

(03:42):
to balance the budget, and we are going to even
do better than that. We are going to reduce our
national debt. And by the way, it's happened once in
modern times. That was under Bill Clinton. I think it
happened one year, and before that, it happened one year
during the Eisenhower years. And that just had to do
with more money was into the federal government than they
had before, and it was just an extraordinary year. I mean,

(04:05):
a lot of us have had just great years, particularly
if you invest or, you have some outside income coming in.
And so those are the only two years and the
rest of the time it's been deficit deficit after deficit.
And I remember when it hit two hundred billion dollars deficit,
that was, oh my god, and then five hundred billion dollars,

(04:27):
How can you sustain that? And then it's a trillion
dollar deficit, and under Biden, I think it was two
trillion dollars in the middle of the pandemic. What do
you do? Well, if you're the federal government, you can
just keep on going. I think you can keep ongoing
where it's trillions and trillions and maybe quadrillions of dollars,

(04:50):
Who the hell knows at this point. So I want
to take a break, come back and finish up before
Jim Kinney comes aboard. Is the Trump bill going to
add two point four trillion dollars to the deficit? Well,
I don't know. There's two different ways of looking at it,

(05:11):
and that's whether you're a Democrat or you're a Republican.
Of course you are and I'll tell you what the
Congressional Budget Office, nonpartisan has to say. We'll come back
and finish that up. All right, we're back, Doctor Jim
Keiney coming up at eight thirty. I want to continue
on with the big beautiful bill. And the argument is

(05:32):
is it going to cut the deficit or is it
going to increase the deficit? And Donald Trump and the
Republicans are saying, oh no, no, it's going to cut
We're going to save a pile of money. And at
the same time the Democrats are saying, oh no, no,
it's going to cost money. At this point, it depends
on the figures and also depends on how you define

(05:53):
what's going on. For example, some's got to give. If
you spend more money on on defense and the border,
and I mean substantially more, the only way to make
it revenue neutral is to spend less on other programs,
in this case social programs. If you are going to

(06:13):
cut expenses, you have to cut even more. You have
to spend even less money. And therein lies the issue.
And you've got two sides, the Republicans. And remember this
bill passed by one vote in the House. It's now
in the Senate, where there's already a lot of dissension

(06:35):
among Republicans. Every Democrats going to vote against it, that's
a given. But even Republicans a handful are saying it
doesn't cut enough, it is too liberal in social programs.
And so the social programs that the CBO, the Congressional
Budget Office, which is nonpartisan, which Congress relies on, has said,

(07:00):
oh no, this is going to cost more than what
the Republicans say by a long shot. What we do
know is that a bunch of social programs are going
to be cut because the bottom line is Republicans believe,
and it's just a way of looking at it, that
social programs are subservient to defense, to immigration issues, because

(07:24):
that is the duty of the United States. The duty
of the United States is to protected citizens, not to
feed it citizens, so poor people, not to take care
of poor people. That's just simply not what government does.
That's what private charities do. That's why you have charities. Well,
it depends on how you look at life. It's not complicated,

(07:48):
but what is happening. And this is the part that
I love, and that is arguing that cutting, for example, Medicaid,
cutting a ton of money from me Dedicaid to the
point where I don't know, seven point nine million people
will no longer be eligible under Medicaid. And you know

(08:08):
that's a little nuanced too, because they're not just cutting
you know, seven point nine people thank you and taking
a pencil. It's people who can work who aren't working.
And the Democrats seem to think everybody who's poor should
get a social program no matter what. You know, they've
never met a poor person or attacks they didn't like.
And the Republicans are saying, if you don't work, if

(08:28):
you can work, then you're not going to get Medicaid.
So it's a little nuanced. But the point is there
is no question that there will be less coverage, There
will be less money. Food stamps are going to be
cut pretty dramatically. You have insure even Obamacare coverage is
going to go down. So which way is it going

(08:52):
to go? Well, the President is saying that with his cuts,
even with more money being spent on defense and immigration,
and the tax tax cuts that he that are supposed
to end this year that he put into place, are
going to extend, and no tax on overtime or tips.

(09:14):
The government gets a lot of money in taxing, overtime,
and tips. I mean a lot of money that's ordinary income.
Well that's all gone under this bill. So it's going
to cost I mean, I disagree completely with what the
Republicans the President is saying. I mean, it's bottom line,
I'm gonna I'm gonna rely on the Congressional Budget Office.

(09:36):
They don't have they don't have an ax to grind,
they don't have a dog in this hunt Speaker Mike Johnson,
after Musk called this bill an abomination, is trying to
do some kind of damage control. And yet Gecas Musk wrote,
bankrupting America is not okay. He believes in what the
Congressional Budget's Office says. So the bill includes three point

(09:59):
seven tru million dollars in tax cuts now that would
be offset by one point three trillion dollars in reduced
federal spending elsewhere, mainly medicating food assistants. I mean, it
just goes on and on. And here is the difference
with all of it is that Mike Johnson and others

(10:21):
have said, this is about making America stronger and greater.
People losing insurance is good for America. It's even good
for them. And this to me smacks a big pharma.
Lowering prices for seniors is good for seniors. They actually

(10:43):
said that. I'm not kidding, I'm not exaggerating. Big tobacco,
smoking cigarettes is healthier for you because all kinds of
reasons you're not as nervous. It calums you down. I mean,
all kinds of crapola that they said originally. And Mike

(11:03):
Johnson and others are saying these cuts make it better
for Americans. Why, I mean, do they not want people
to eat? No, I don't think so. It's just it's
not the job of government. And number two, fraud and waste.
Everything is fraud and waste, and every government coming in,
every party coming into government, one of the big platforms

(11:25):
fraud and waste. Fraud and waste. We're gonna get rid
of fraud and waste. The problem is fraud and waste here, man,
it's being swept up like you can't believe everything is
fraud and waste. So you got Senate Majority Leader John Thune,
South Dakota. He's gonna get this done one way or another.

(11:46):
We're committed to making a law, the big beautiful bill
that will make the lives of American better even those
who lose insurance and get less money for food stamps,
you're gonna be better off. It's quite the day. You know,
what's up is down, what's down is up. It's just

(12:09):
and this is polarization on both sides, and both sides
are crazier, although I will say the Republican side is
more crazy that I'll say much like the media is it?
Is it biased? Of course it's biased, but the bias
to the right, Fox and It's ILK is more biased
than for example, CNN and BBC or certainly the networks.

(12:35):
So you know, where do you go? Well, you figure
we're going to have an interesting three and a half
years with Donald Trump as president. Can't wait for the
parade either, that's going to be fascinating. Can't wait for
that parade? It's now. Let me ask you, are six
seven hundred servicemen are going to be marching past the
viewing stand with the tanks and with the missiles and

(12:59):
I mean all of it. Are they going to stretch
their arms out as they pass the viewing stand?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes? Or no?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
What is this for? Is this for Flag Day or what?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
It's two hundred and fifty years that I think either
the Marines or the army. The army, the army has
been in existence. It's a big holiday. Two hundred fifty
years is a big deal. It happens to coincide with
Trump's birthday. Now is it the two fifty years or
is it Trump's birthday? And he ordered this? Probably both.
But it's the last time there was a parade. The

(13:31):
last time there was a parade anywhere near this was
celebrating the end of the Gulf War. How far does
that go back? Huh?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I hope Musk comes out dressed as Marilyn Monroe and wish.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
I know, I know it's going to be it's going
to be crazy. I hope that the chief of staffs
have those big high hats that they wear in North Korea,
those ridiculous hats, you know, the military hats. All right,
coming up, it's going to be doctor Jim Keeney. We'll
be right back, all right, moving to doctor Jim Keeney. Jim,

(14:08):
chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in
Long Beach and a board certified er doctor. All right, Jim,
good morning, Good morning, Bill. Oh right now, you knew
i'd go there. No, No, first, I'm going to do
something that's even more important. And this is a shocker
that I'm not going to go to the British poop pills,

(14:32):
which I'll tell you about in a minute. Or Jim
will the story yesterday of Robert Kennedy Junior firing the
entire US Vaccine Committee after he promised he would not
to get Bill Cassidy's Senate vote. Who happens to be
a doctor and actually doesn't believe in the anti vaccine crapola?

(14:53):
How important is this and what is going to be
the fallout?

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I mean so, So this committee, the Advisory Committee on
Immunization Practices or ASIP, you know, they are the ones
that kind of come alongside almost every other organization to
advise them on vaccines.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Right, So, the FDA.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Approves vaccines after looking at safety and efficacy, but ACIP
makes the recommendation that the FDA approves. Then they come
alongside the CDC. The CDC implements national vaccine programs and
ACIP recommends those schedules and what happens on those schedules. Sorry,

(15:32):
I'm getting a call, So you're probably hearing a bunch
of cutouts. You know, the state and local health departments
align with acip's recommendations. Private insurers pay for they're required
to pay for the ACIP guidelines. So this is going
to impact, you know, what's paid for.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Schools follow their.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Vaccine recommendations, and free vaccine programs are based on their
recommendations as well. So a big impact in the world
of you know, vaccines.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
And so you know, he's trying to say.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
That that we're embedded with a system of an industry
aligned with pro pharma ideology, and you know that he
or may not be true to some extent, but that
you know, to undermine the entire process by dumping everyone
all in one shot.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I don't know about the wisdom of that.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
To get a new new committee in there that have
not done that function before, that's definitely going to disrupt.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, let me ask this. He is saying that there's
all kinds of conflicts, which I'm hearing there is not.
As a matter of fact, they have guardrails to make
sure that doesn't happen. But he accuses these people somehow
being completely biased, and he's going to be putting in
non biased people. You know, you're you're in the medical

(16:50):
community and you read and you hear the buzz. Does
anybody doubt he's going to be putting in less qualified
people and people who are, in fact act politically motivated
to follow the RIFK philosophy.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Well, I mean, if you've been educated in this area,
you are going to be biased towards the fact in
a good way, in an informed way, that vaccines work.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
So the problem is anyone who actually has read the information,
who understands how vaccines work, who understand what the world
looked like before vaccines were introduced, they are going to
be in his mind, I would imagine, biased, And so
anyone educated is going to be out. So yeah, I'm
concerned about who if he has to do a wholesale

(17:37):
replacement what he's planning on doing here.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, can't wait for that one. All right, let's take
a break and we're going to come back, and of
course a topic that you put in that you know
was right up my alley, and tell you all about that.
How's that for a tease?

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
We'll be back with doctor Jim Keeney. All right, back
we go, Doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for Dignity
Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, and Jim, of
course we're going to be doing this story. British doctors
are now prescribing freeze dried crap in uh in capsule

(18:15):
form actually known as what now crap souls and Neil
you came up with and also ash spirin and.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
What else is this? Is this for the phoscription? Yeah,
there's the there's the asperrien. There's also the putnacillin, there's
the Lexa Pooh, all kinds of stuff, nore.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
This goes on and on. I mean Neil took this
one now is uh? I mean, as ridiculous as it sounds,
Is there any efficacy here?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (18:49):
Absolutely, and efficacy over a long period of time people
have have done this uh and it works. So in
the past what they would do is, you know, you
grab a family member who has otherwise healthy, you get
a fecal sample from them, and then with a colonoscopy
or a rectal tube, you insert the stool into the

(19:10):
patient and that has cured one of our more difficult
infection secure seed deficile.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
It's in the name. It's difficult, right, ceed deficile and
it'll get rid of it.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
There's a lot of other things we've noticed when people
do this in the past, is people with metabolic syndrome.
The metabolic syndrome gets better, weight loss gets better, lots
of different things improve when you improve the microbiomes. So
there's bad bacteria in your gut, and remember that, you know,
all the bacteria have DNA. Those DNA produce proteins. Proteins

(19:43):
are how things get done in the body. They're the communication,
they're the things that the building blocks. So when you
have an alien protein in your body that's kind of
taken over and doing things that shouldn't be done, that
can lead to bad health, like metabolic syndrome. So it's
actually really really interesting they're taking up in this case though,
because that's a process right to put a rectal tube

(20:05):
in and everything. They're trying to create capsules that are safe,
that have been processed so you don't have any kind
of co infections or any other weird bacteria or anything
riding along. Freeze dry and put them in a pill,
and then you can just swallow the pill.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Or you can swallow a chipotlely burrito. That seems to
work too.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
It might work equally as well, but you know, it's
kind of a Russian roulette. You never know what else
you're going to get in the burritos.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
By the way, that is that was a great news
story too about Chipotle burritos, which they did straightened out
at some point. I just wanted to confirm.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Are you saying, Doc, that if I swallowed a capsule
full of pooh, I would lose weight?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, There's been people that have lost weight because there
is a microbiome that's associated with weight gain, and there's
a different microbiome that's associated with red naming thin.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
So when if they've done that where.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
They've taken even twins who one's obese, one thin, and
they take the stool sample out of one and put
it in the other and the other one gets tin.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, and those capsules, by the way, you get thin
because you throw them, throw them up and everything else.
I mean, that is that is fascinating. Is there basically
is this on the upswing? Or is it has there
been a recent study that shows that this has more
efficacy and or it just works and it's just a
great procest concept.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I mean, We've been talking about it for a while
because I'm pretty convinced right that the microbiome is a
significant part all we're all looking at our DNA, which
maybe has you know, hundreds to a couple of thousand genes,
and meanwhile we have tens of thousands of genes riding
along in our bodies through these microbiome and so I
really do believe that we can probably more greatly impact

(21:55):
our health by effect in the microbiome. So it's been
going on for a year, but this is another study
trying to make it more mainstream and more every day.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
All right, Jim, as always, thank you, we'll talk again.
I'll probably call you in a couple of days with
some malady that I have just to make my life miserable.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, and thank Cono for playing the original during my segment.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, thank goodness for sure. All Right, we're done, guys, Jim,
take care. Thank you also real quickly before we bail,
and want announce on Saturday? Was it the twenty third?
Is that right? Coming up? Twenty third or twenty eighth?
I don't have that document here anyway. Go to a
lawyer's La Lawyersphil dot org. It's La Lawyers Phil is

(22:44):
in Philharmonic dot org. And I am am seeing which
I do every year their concert and it's great fun.
And I lost the copy, so I always forget the date.
In any case, I'd love to have you come. And
it's just it's loyal and judges and folks involved in
the legal system with this world class orchestra. So anyway,

(23:05):
i'll tell you more about it coming up with the
next few days. We're done, guys, finish Phoene and so
again tomorrow morning we start with or They and we're
talking Amy. Oh, no, Will is not here this week.
He's taking off.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
He's flying around Florida.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Oh, he's flying. He finally gets in an airplane.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
Well he's doing Remember we told you that he does
that side gig where he flies over the stadiums and
the arenas that are doing sporting events. No, yeah, that's
what he does on weekends. So he flies at like
the NFL Games. He flies over the state. He flies
over the stadium and takes pictures of it. So when
you see that live feed what IDEO drones. Well he'll

(23:45):
probably be out of a job soon, but for now
he still has a job. Okay, he's in Florida for
the Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Boy, that's not a bad gig, all right. So tomorrow morning,
wake up Call with Amy and insert name of person here.
And then Neil and I come aboard from six to
nine right till now. And then of course Kono and
and always here taking care of the show. This is
oh Gary and Shannon up next. Don't forget that kf
I A M six point

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