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All right. So the text from the suspect in that
Charlie Kirk shooting gives clues to what the motive was.
And I know everybody's trying to put it on. You know,
whoever their opponent is in this world, it's not us,
it's this person, it's that person, it's whatever for this
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reason that reason. And I said yesterday and I will
continue to believe. Whether he believed that Charlie Kirk wasn't
conservative enough, or whether he was too conservative or whatever,
or hate field doesn't matter. Whatever it was was, he
didn't like what someone was saying. And I know that
it's more than just speech. A lot of people feel
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that Charlie Kirk was filled with hate. I don't know
how deep of a dive I'm going to do on
Charlie Kirk. I was not that familiar with him. I
knew who he was. I don't run in conservative Christian circles,
although I know people in those circles. I've also said
I'm not a dominionist. As a Christian, I do not
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believe that it is our duty to change laws. I
think it's our duty to change hearts, our duty to
connect with people, show the love of Christ, and also
righteous indignation when needed. But I don't believe we need
to take over the government to make that happen. As
a matter of fact, I think that conservatism has Christian
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Conservatism has become idolatry personally to Christians. I think it's
very small focusing. It's very small to think that the
United States holds a special place or a big place
in the heart or mind of God. It's just weird
to me. But I am learning, like you about you know,
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different movements out there and more things about mister Kirk.
And we're learning more things about the twenty two year
old man accused of killing him. So apparently there were
some text messages and I'm going to read them to
you in a moment. But this is to his romantic partner,
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who I believe is a man transitioning into a woman,
and this may explain why he did what he did,
according to prosecutors. To suspect Tyler Robinson, Robinson said in
the text that he had had enough of Kirk's hatred.
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Essentially added some hate can't be negotiated out. So through
this whole process, a lot of people have been saying that,
and I believe this. Charlie Kirk's focus was to debate. Now,
I've debated for a long time. I've debated in many
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different settings, and I like the concept of discussion and debate,
and sometimes it can get heated, and sometimes you use rhetoric.
And I've seen, you know, cuts of Charlie Kirk using
rhetoric that makes me go, you know what, those are
old debating tricks. That's not you know, honest debate. Those
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are things to put your opponent on their heels instead
of just going to the facts. And then I've heard
some really great use of basic logic and informal logic,
fallacies and count and calling people out for using them
and things like that. But I will tell you that
reading through this the this text exchange it reads, it
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didn't seem real to me. Like when I first read
him like this has to be fake, right, this has
to be fake because to me, the way it reads
is like a James Bond movie where James Bond is
strapped down to a table where a laser is pointed
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at his genitalia and about to cut him in half,
and the bad guy goes, here's the plot of what
I'm gonna do and how it's gonna play out, and
you go, why are you telling him all this? Like
I read it like that, like this can't be real.
This is written like a movie, like somebody's saying and
then I'm gonna do this, and then I'm gonna hide
this and then I'm gonna do it. I was like
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it almost it almost answers every question for the most
part and hands it to the prosecutor. It's bizarre. So
let's get some news and we'll come back and I'll
read more of it to you and kind of break
it down and how it's part confession, part detail, part
like like human, like I'm going to get in trouble
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by my dad. I just murdered someone, but I'm gonna
get troubled by my dad because my two thousand dollars
grandfather's gun that I used, I might lose because I
can't get it back. So these messages are included in
the court documents, and like I said, it's they read
like this the last you know, Act four of a
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James Bond movie where James Bond is strapped down and
something horrible's gonna happen, probably to the lower half of
his body. It always starts there in James Bond, like
a blade or a laser, you know, and he's like,
not that money opinning, It's like a you know, and
then the guy goes, this is exactly what I'm going
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to do and continues to give explanatory dialogue on what's
going to happen. And that's what these texts were. I
thought they were fake. He's facing additional charges for telling
his partner to delete the incriminating texts as well. He
didn't want to speak to he says, don't speak to
the police. Get rid of these texts. Robinson's mother told
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investigators that over the past year or so her son
became more politically engaged. He was referred to as a
Reddit kid, somebody who goes on the deep dive on Reddit.
Now I use Reddit a lot too, but very specific
things you know, prop making or three D printing or
things like that where you can get some very interesting
answers and helpful insights on things, but not the political end.
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Sometimes some religious stuff out of curiosity about people's theology.
But and he had shifted further to the left, says mom.
She also said he had become more supportive of LGBTQ
plus rights. So prosecutors noted that Robinson's partner who lived
with him is transgender and transitioning from male to female,
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and this plays into this as well. So let's get
into some of the actual exchange here. So it starts
with Robinson saying, texting, drop what you're doing. Look under
my keyboard. So the roommate looks under the keyboard. There
was a note that allegedly read I had the opportunity
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to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it.
So the roommate responds, what with you know, a dozen
and a half question marks? You're joking right for question marks? Robinson,
I am still okay, my love, but I am struck,
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or I am stuck in orm for a little while
longer yet shouldn't be long until I can come home.
But I got to grab my rifle. Still. To be honest,
I had hoped to keep this secret till I died
of old age. I'm sorry to involve you so at
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this point it reads as if he believed he was
going to get away with it. Right. Roommate says, you
weren't the one who did it right for question marks,
Robinson says, I am. I'm sorry, roommate. I thought they
caught the person. Robinson replies, Now they grabbed some crazy
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old dude, then interrogated him in similar and then interrogated
someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my
rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of
that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost
enough to get out, but there's one vehicle. Roommate. Why
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single question mark, Robinson? Why did I do it? Single
question mark? Roommate, Yeah, Robinson, I had enough of his hatred.
Some hate can't be negotiated out, Robinson. If I am
able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left
no evidence going to an attempt to retrieve it again.
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Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about
them finding it. Roommate, how long have you been planning this?
Single question mark Robinson a bit over a week. I
believe I can get close to it. I must speaking
about the god. But there's a squad car parked right
by it. I think they already swept that spot, but
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I don't want to chance it. Robinson goes on, I'm
wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon
as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my
old man would do if I did bring back Grandpa's rifle.
Id e K. I don't even know. I'm guessing is
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what that is? If it has a serial number, but
it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about Prince. I
had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits.
You see what I'm saying, Like every detail is in here,
didn't have the ability or time to bring it with
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I might have to abandon it and hope they don't
find prints. How the explative will I explain losing it
to my old man. Only thing I left was the
rifle wrapped in a towel. I mean, every detail, and
it made me go like, is this real? Remember how
I was engraving bullets again? More detail? The explative messages
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are mostly a big meme. If I see notice notices
bulge Uwu on Fox New misspelled, I might have a stroke.
All right, I'm gonna have to leave that really expletive sucks.
Judging from today, I'd say Grandpa's gun does just fine.
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I don't know. I think that was a two thousand
dollars two K scope with an emoji. Robinson, delete this exchange.
Robinson goes on, my dad wants photos of the rifle.
He says, Grandpa wants to know who has what. The
Feds released a photo of the rifle and it's it's
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very unique. He's calling you right now. I'm not answering, Robinson.
Since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty
die hard maga. Robinson goes on, I'm gonna turn myself
in Willingly. One of my neighbors here is a deputy
for the sheriff. Robinson goes on, you are all I
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worry about my love roommate. I'm much more worried about you, Robinson.
Don't talk to the media. Please, don't take any interviews
or make any comments. If any police ask you questions,
ask for a lawyer, and stay silent. So that is
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the exchange. And like I said, I don't think any
details were left out except the you know, I got
on the roof at this time. I did that, but
everything about stashing the weapon. But you know the scope.
It's interesting what he was thinking about, could just kill
the man in cold blut and he's going, it's a
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two thousand dollars scope. I think my dad's going to
be pissed. It was my grandpa's. I don't even know
that it has a serial number, which is probably something
I would have thought about beforehand. But yeah, I don't
know it Just well, lot's going to come out of
this that my love. I know that there was somebody.
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I'm trying to think who what it was? Who was
it it was? Was it ABC or CBS? There was
KFI six forty, Neil Spader in the morning crew with
you robo taxis. Let's go around the room real quick, Codo,
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have you been in a weemo or ROBOTAXI yet? I
have not. Yeah, they're still the horse and cart out
there in the I right, what is that They're not
coming to the ie for a while. I would say,
big city, bigger metropolitan city. Yeah, going on, Yeah, do
you ever in LA every morning? Well? Yeah, I know,
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but you go. I would love to be in Awemo.
I would love for you to be in a WEEIMO
right now on the way MO out of here, Amy K. King, Yes,
you've been in Okay?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, but they had last week one pulled up next
door to me. They were like, my next door neighbor
was taking one and it pulled up and I was.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I mean, it's just weird to see. Yeah, it's just
weird to see a vehicle pull up.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Without a driver. And and you haven't, right, I have not? No,
what about you, Matthew? Your young, fun full of exuberants
and no, no, I'd like to. But yeah you want to,
you can just call one, even if it takes you
around the block. All right, I have I love them.
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I think they're fascinating. Used them up north in San Francisco,
use them down here.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Did you go on the freeway or just city streets?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Uh? City streets. I haven't been on the FREEWA What
about you? Will? Is he is he doing news? Someone?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
He just goes as somebody talking to me?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Will has not because we talked about it on wake
up call that Will and I have not done away
moment we thought there'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
We should go, okay, put up all over the place,
even in Las Vegas. But there's a problem that we
may not have thought about. I'll explain what that is
when we return.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, there's no driver.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
What what it was in? Uh? The Schwarzenegger film, the
Johnny Taxis. Yes, welcome to Johnny Taxi.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I remember he ended up being a psychotic killer. Or
did he get killed?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I don't remember the Johnny Taxi? Yeah, did he really?
I don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Maybe he just got killed.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, he got shut down or something. Robo taxis. Uh,
maybe you've tried them, Maybe you haven't. There. They started
here in Los Angeles on the West side, and now
they're moving through on the eastern side of town where
I live, and I've used them. They're super convenient. They
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are cheaper. You don't tip, obviously, but they are cheaper.
Uber and Lyft have gotten expensive.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm one if they're going to stay cheaper or once
people start using them, they're going to do what Uper
and lifted, and that is racist prices.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
I guess so, But I guess you're still gonna have
the discount of not tipping, which I know a lot
of people go that's horrible. You're taking tips away from people.
I'm like, you know what, you gotta get a job
that can't be done by automation. That's just the way
life is. I saw a robot the other day that
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lays flooring. No it was in wood flooring. It was insane,
and I'm just saying that that's the that's the way
life is. I'm sorry, but here's the issue. So you
have new we have way moau at here and like
I said, I tried it in San Francisco and stuff
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just easy to get around and uh and I personally
like it. It didn't freak me out at all. Didn't
freak me out in the slightest to sit next to nobody.
It was interesting to watch. You can watch the screen
on different modes and you can play iHeart in there,
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so it's on iHeart and it's listening to music, but
you can switch over to a screen where you can
see what the light are and the different technology is
seeing and it's crazy driving down Beverly Boulevard at night
and it's seeing people on the sidewalk in the dark
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that I can't see that are stepping into traffic and
I'm going it has better, way, better eyesight than a human.
So the technology is insane. But here's where the problem lies.
I don't know. Do we know the name of this company.
It's zox Is at Zekes anyone Buehler Buehler. I vote
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for Zekes Buehler. So it's in Nevada now in Las Vegas,
and they brought twenty county firefighters and city police. They
basically offered them an opportunity to check them out, kick
the tires, ask questions and look at these autonomous cars
and see you know what they thought about them, because
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they're letting them loose on the busy Las Vegas strip,
which I think is perfect for Las Vegas. You know,
get the idiots in the rented Lamborghinis out of there.
You know, they got the rented lamb bone. They're like,
wo look this, it's rented, dude. That's like walking around
with a prostitute and saying, yeah, so I got this
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this piece of arm candy. Dude, it's a rental either
way you look at it. But they're saying, our concern
is is getting in getting into them in an emergency
because they lock they lock you in, and that's for
your protection too. You come to a stoplight. Nobody can
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open the door on you. You can open and lock
the door on your cell phone. By the way, it's crazy.
So it pulls up and the way MO has that
spinning thing with the logo on top, like get a
little siren. Well, when it's coming to pick me up,
that siren changes. The illustration on it changes to a
circle with NS in it to let me know it's
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for me. And then you get in and then you
click that, you click the door open on the app,
and then you lock it on the app. And there's
always a person you can say. They say they don't
listen to your conversations or anything like that, but yourself whatever,
But you can call out to them, or there's a
button you can press to always get a live person
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to help you in a situation. So in this case,
the law enforcement and first responders are saying, you know,
what if it loses connectivity, Well, they're designed to pull over,
but first responders, you know, how do they shut off
the vehicle, how do they get inside the vehicle, how
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do they get someone out, how do they connect? And
these are all questions and this is part of the
process of ironing it out. You know, as Handles always says,
you know, when we started flying, you're gonna have accidents.
Every technology is going to be this way, I assure you.
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Once we went from horse and buggy to motorized vehicles,
there were accidents. You know how we got speed laws
and drinking and driving laws because people were going over
they were going too fast and they were drinking and driving.
That's those LUTs, no joke. There was a time as like, ah,
you're drunk, all right, Well I'm gonna follow you home
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or you better just get home. You know, if you
watch like what was it, it's a wonderful life. Well
the cops are like, oh he's drunk, you know, do
a guy drive one? Ay, he's had one too many?
Better get back home? And what's that the forties when
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that movie was made. So things change and this is
how it's unfortunate, but this is how we learn what
we need to change is by having issues with it.
Sad but true. I think it's going to be the
future and it will be way safer to have cars
that see and understand it and aren't emotive the way
they drive drive. They drive strictly based on intellect, distance, safe, speed,
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All of those things, and the more of them there are,
the better it will be because they talk to each other.
As a matter of fact, you could see the cars.
It shows the cars that the Weimo sees, and I
noticed that when another Weymo went by, it recognized that
it was a Weimo and not just an average car.
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I don't know. Pretty crazy, all right, Neil Sevadra and
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