December 3, 2025 • 23 mins
(December 03, 2025)
Costco is poking the Trump Bear. Cash strapped shoppers opt for essentials and buy-now-pay-later services. Dr. Jim Keany, Chief Medical Officer at Dignity Health St. Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, joins The Bill Handel Show for 'Medical News'! Dr. Keany talks with Bill about tattoo ink moving through the body, killing immune cells and weakening vaccine response, and men with ‘beer bellies’ may face serious heart damage even if they aren’t overweight.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Cosco CAMPI AM six forty, don't handle here. It is
a Wednesday morning, December third, and I want to thank
everybody who donated to Pastathon yesterday. We raised nine hundred
and fifty five thousand dollars and forty two thousand pounds
of pasta and sauce. And we're still We're still going
(00:27):
because you can still donate, and we haven't heard yet
from Wendy's. We're smart and final, and we haven't heard
from the giving machines and the locations all over southern California.
And so we're going to go past the one point
three million dollars we raised last year.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And without you, it can't be done that simple.
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So please donate to or go to KFI AM six
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
Of bucks so we would greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right, Costco and this is a Costco story, but
not a food story, which is rather unusual on this show.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, there's part of a food story.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, there are certain costcos regionally that sell balls.
In this case, this is a legal concept that Costco
has balls, and what does that mean? Well, first of all,
public companies and Costco, obviously it's a big public company,
have mostly treated the president with kid gloves during the
second term. They've avoided conflict seeking, favor ornate gifts, large
(01:30):
donations to Pet project, strategic deployments of CEOs to the
Oval Office.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The Wall Street Journal said today, if you literally.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And this was a term they use, if you declare
the magnificence of President Trump, then you are going to
be treated very well. Another pardon a democrat, but who
was being looked at for serious financial crimes, who, as
a Democrat in Congress, consistently talked about and derided Joe
(02:06):
Biden's policy on immigration, has now been pardoned. Again, if
you believe in the president, you're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So what did Costco do Well?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
They filed a lawsuit that contends that Trump overstepped his
emergency powers by imposing those sweeping tariffs and claiming that
the company is to a refund because, as President Trump
has said, it's the countries that sell to us that
are paying the tariffs. They are not we are paying
(02:41):
the tariffs. And when we buy at Costco Walmart, that
bring in products from China, for example, they end up
paying the terriffs. Sometimes they suck it up, sometimes they
pass it on, and Costco is saying we want a refund.
By the way, they're not alone either Bumblebee Foods, Ray
Bands the president the parent company, Revlon Kawasaki. But Costco
(03:05):
is the highest profile public company. And why is this
such a big deal Because very few major corporations have
been willing to stick their necks out, which is very
different than Trump's first term, where the businesses and leaders
felt a lot more comfortable speaking out.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And now multiple CEOs.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Have lined up to go into the Oval Office to
DEI programs are gone. Trump's second term has largely been
major corporations sucking up. Big business has enjoyed his regulatory policies,
particularly on AI that makes sense business wise. I don't
(03:49):
have a problem with that. I don't agree with it,
but I don't have a problem but getting on his
good sized side that is a big deal. Tariffs very
unpopular with Americans because the affordability crisis that we have
are connected to our view of the terriffs. A CBS
News poll say that thirty eight percent of Americans favor
(04:13):
new tariffs a majority sixty two percent oppose. So Costco
is not going to get too many people pissed off.
What they're going to do is get the government pissed
off this administration. Now, as far as the lawsuit is concerned,
Supreme Court appears ready to declare those tariffs ill legal,
(04:37):
that Trump in fact overstepped his Congress, because overstep the
Congress in his authority, because the law says that Congress
imposes tariffs, not the president, and he is arguing that economics,
what's going on in this country financially is an emergency
(04:57):
situation where he has to come in, much like when
war is declared, it's an emergency situation, and he has
declared that the balance of trade is enough of emergency,
a national emergency, that he has to come in and
deal with it with tariffs.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I don't think the court's going to buy that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
There's and not that many companies have been in favor
or have gone against the president. In April, White House
Secretary Caroline Levitt held up a photo of Jeff Bezos
she did in a press briefing and said that the
company is considering advertising tariffs costs to comfort to customers
(05:40):
that was the first time and Trump threatened the company. Also,
Walmart said it would raise prices because of the tariffs.
The Trump administration at that point said that that company
may maybe hit with additional costs. Tim Cook, the CEO
(06:01):
of Apple, promised an additional one hundred billion dollars in
US investment, which Trump is doing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean, this is the point.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of all this is to bring investment into the United States,
create jobs, to build factories.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Understood. I mean, there's no issue in my mind.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That is his goal. That's his motivation. Now how he
gets there is something else. He believes his tariffs. A
lot of people don't. A lot of people think the
legal system believe that he doesn't have the authority to
do that.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And what's going up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Incidentally, when Tim Cook went to the White House, he
presented the President with a plaque and with a twenty
four carrot gold base solid gold base. Isn't that special,
you bet? And that's not unusual. And again it's which
companies are going to have the balls to stand up
(06:57):
and Costco's the biggest at this point, the most the
biggest public company willing to do that, and they take
real chances of dealing with the president's I r. The
president has enormous power, as you know. And boy, it
is so simple with this president. There is nothing complicated
about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And he said that in his agenda. His agenda is
exactly what he said when he was running. You like me,
I'm going to take care of you. You don't like me,
I'm going to basically destroy you. It's simple and it's tough,
all right. A lot going on in Washington with Pete Hesith,
(07:38):
the Secretary of War not Defense, and it has to
do with one of those drug boats that were leaving Venezuela,
the ones that are being attacked by the president. And
by the way, I believe those are drug boats. I
have no problem with blowing them out of the water.
The problem is legally does the president have the authority
to do that, And that's gonna up through the courts.
(08:01):
But here's what happened in this boat incident in September.
There was a double hit, which means the boat exploded,
which you've seen videos of those boats exploded, and there
were two survivors that were clinging to the wreckage, and
the aircraft took both of them out, attacked both of them.
(08:26):
International law says you can't do that when someone is
no longer a threat done, and the President has said
that the threat is drugs coming into the country. Okay,
I'll buy that, and therefore it's a national emergency. Okay,
I can see that argument. But a couple of guys
clinging to wreckage in the Caribbean, that's a different story.
(08:48):
I mean really, Okay, So now heg seth. This is
a great story. Heg seth as it broke on CNN,
and I think it was also the Wall Street Journal
said that it was fake news, that that never happened.
(09:10):
Then it turned around that okay, it happened, but the
decision to do it was not mine. It was the
commander of that area who made the decision, and I
wasn't in the room when that decision was made. I
was there when the first attack, was there what happened,
(09:32):
but then I left right after that, and I wasn't
aware that the second attack happened, although he had said
previously he was there the entire time and he didn't
make the decision.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It was the commander made the decision.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And Caroline Levitt, who is the Press secretary after all this,
said that whatever happened was within the confines, the authority
that he had, within the president's authority. Not denying any
of that happen. It's just this is all legal. And
then heg Seth comes back and says, this is the.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Fog of war. That's what this is about. Simply the
fogs of war.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And let me tell you who it's pissing off a
lot of Republicans GOP. Senator Roger white Wicker, who chairs
the Senate Armed Services Committee, has pledged a vigorous oversight.
They are not happy. I mean, the Democrats is a given.
Whatever Trump does, they're unhappy with it. But even you
have the os by the way, so Washington Post and
(10:38):
CNN that released the information about it. And I got
to tell you where this is going to go. I
don't know within the administration.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's going to go.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No place the president has backed heg Seth one, although
on Air Force one, he goes, I didn't know it happened.
I didn't make any decision about it. Yeah, it shouldn't
have happened. I wouldn't have ordered that second strike, but
I didn't know anything at all.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So now it's going to go to.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
General Bradley, who is in charge of that area. He's
the commander of four of the forces in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And what does he say?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
He is going to have to roll over and say, yep,
I made the decision and pete Hegseth never I was
never given any orders at all. I did it on
my own. And does he suck it up? Do does
he retire? Does is he fired? For example? Because Hegseth
(11:46):
has fired many senior military officers, many of them he
cleaned out the joint the Joint chiefs or the joint Yeah,
the Joint chiefs of Staff. I think Joint Chiefs is
one cleaned out the you know, the five guys who
run the armed services.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think it's the chiefs of staff. My mind goes
crazy on this one.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And so I think that he's gonna suck it up.
He's not gonna be he is not going to be well,
maybe he will, maybe he will, maybe he'll be fired.
Is he going to be brought back to be court
martialed like Mark Kelly, the astronaut who's a Democrat who
was one of those five who did the video against
(12:34):
Donald Trump, where HeiG Seth has said basically or the
President has said these five senators and congress people are
traders and should be tried and given the death sentence.
But they're all Democrats, and so I can't wait to
see what happens on this one.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Maybe they've overstepped, maybe and do I. I'll tell you
what I believe.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I believe that it's Hexseth who made the decision, gave
the order to go ahead and take out those survivors.
And the quote is that I don't want any survivors,
I believe was the quote. And now the heads are
going to roll. The President didn't know anything about it.
Hegset didn't know anything about it. I don't have any idea.
(13:24):
And when he said I saw it all in real time,
I really didn't see it all in real time. I
left right after the first strike, so I don't know
what happened, right, and now it's just a fog of war.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh isn't life wonderful?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It's time for doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for
Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, and Jim,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh he just dropped out.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, we'll call back, but I want to give a
little backstory before he joins us. It was very important
for me to have my daughters not get tattoos. Matter
of fact, that was part of my trust, my trust
that literally said you will not get tattoos. If you
get a tattoo, you are disinherited. And so they didn't
(14:10):
get tattoos almost, No, they didn't until a couple of
years ago where Barbara said, can I get one little
tiny tattoo? I said, okay, the damn broke open. Now
she is tatted up all over the place. Now I
(14:31):
feel differently because Lindsay when I met her and even now.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Is pretty tatted up. Neil is fairly tatted Okay, So, Jim.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don't know if you've heard about everybody I know,
well everybody Neil and my daughter Barbara pretty tatted up.
But there is a story out there about tattoo ink
and that is not good news. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, tattoo ink. So it doesn't stay put. And I'm
actually surprised to how common mice, you know, how consistent
mice lymphatic systems are too ours because we knew this,
I mean, when you dissect bodies in medical school, if
they had tattoos, a lot of times you'll find tattoo
ink in the actual lymph node. So you know, it's
(15:21):
we knew this about humans, and so they did this
in mice. It turns out that the ink also moves
in mice. And so what they looked at in this
study was what impact does it have on immune response,
especially to vaccinations. So the headline was that it reduces
the vaccinations. That's actually wrong for the study. It does not.
(15:42):
It reduces the response to some vaccines and increases the
response to others. So you know what happens is they
inject They used covid vaccine and they also used flu
vaccine in the In the flu vaccine, we're injecting the
actual you know, the virus itself. So if your immune
systems all ramped up from tattoo inc then it actually
(16:06):
responds better and improves the respond In the covid vaccine,
we're injecting RNA that makes a spike protein of the
virus that you're trying to prevent, and then your body
of a response to that, and in that case it
reduced the efficacy of the vaccine itself. But I mean,
in this study they mentioned it, and in the past
(16:27):
we've also known that tattoos increased your risk of lymphoma.
You know, we don't know why exactly, but they seem
to be associated with them.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm a little confused. Either vaccines are good for you
or they're bad. I mean, tattoos are either good for
you or they're bad for you. And is it both simultaneously.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Well, I mean so, yeah, I wouldn't recommend getting a
tattoo just so that your flu vaccine had a better
response rate. Now, but it is a mixed study here,
I mean, it doesn't show that it's you know that
across the board reduces the response to vaccines. It just
reduces the response to covide vaccine. So of course you
(17:08):
should try to avoid trying to get a vaccination, especially
soon after you've had a tattoo. You want to, you know,
you'd want to try and get your vaccine first if
you're going to get a covide vaccine. Otherwise. Yeah, there's
you know, the tattoos in general, you know, and it
brings up a lot of these issues about the lymphoma,
about the skin cancer, about the risk of tattooing. I mean,
(17:29):
it's not regulated, it's well, it is as a cosmetic
but just like what we measure, how we put things
on your skin if you don't have a skin reaction
to it when it's put on your skin. The FDA
approves these materials, so they don't actually approve anything for
injection into yet.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
All right, two questions. Do you do you have any tattoos?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
No, I don't have any.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, would you be concerned about getting a tattoo?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I guess you know. You weigh the risk increased versus
the benefit, and I probably would never get a massive tattoo.
But I hear the tattoo, the higher the risk. Right,
So I wanted to put somebody's initials on my body
or something like that. I can't imagine that either, but
if I did, I probably would still do it a
tiny little tattoo, but anything big i'd be more concerned about.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, I'm considering a tattoo on my arm, and it
would say this is not a tattoo, that would just
be Neil.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Neil is so tattooed that I'm not overly tattooed. But yes,
I do have some.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I have seen Neil naked, and let me tell you
tattoos are well.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Then I'm gonna go into that with Neil's and my
daughter looking at the tattoos, haying.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, well you know you thought, here's the problem is
you ran out of space because you were putting. I
come from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, across you know where, and it
just didn't work.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, we're gonna come to Jim. Topic number two.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Men with beer bellies I can face pretty serious heart damage.
I don't want to mention any names Neil, but even
if they aren't overweight, and Neil is both no question
about it and doesn't drink beer, which is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Not much, not much now.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, So first of all, Jim, I want to talk
about how big is a beer belly before it gets dangerous.
I know it's kind of you know, you can't be specific,
but are we talking about those big beer bellies or
even a little one.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, we're talking about forty inch waste. You know, that's
kind of the cutoff where people start getting into the
risk zone. That's just a general overall big not very specific.
This study though, is looking at the waste to hip ratio, right,
so you know, if you measure your hips at the
(19:56):
absolute widest part and then you measure your gut, the
gut be about ninety percent of the hip size, right,
so about ten percent less than your hips. For a
lot of people that gut hangs over right, and the
gut is bigger than hips. That's a problem and that
that results in serious heart issues. And this is we
(20:17):
missed this with BMI and weight. Remember weight is kind
of the crudest You can just get on a scale
and get your weight. BMI is a calculation. It's a
little more accurate as to whether you have too much
weight on your body. But where the weight is really matters,
and having it around your organs, you know, centrally located
inside your gut, around your organs, that's metabolically active fat.
(20:38):
That is, it produces inflammatory cytokinds they call them inflammatory
things that come out into your body and put stress
on your body and your heart and then just the
pumping through there. For some reason, it puts a strain
on the heart. And you can get What happens is
the heart gets the muscle gets thickened, the chambers get smaller.
(21:00):
We call that cardiomyopathy or hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. It's usually associated
with high blood pressure. But what we're saying here is, look,
when you have a patient with the big gut to
waste ratio, you need to look into maybe that's the
problem and they need to start losing some of that
that gut fat.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Isn't that also known as Dunlop's disease. That's when you're
that's when your stomach dunlop over your belt.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Uh. Yeah, yeah, so it's I mean, and this is
the thing is when we get an ultrasound of the heart,
you know, you can we look at ejection fraction as
how your heart's functioning. That's it squeezes out blood, and
we look at how much of the blood it ejects
out of the heart. And this actually shows preserved ejection fractionals.
(21:48):
It's cardiomyopathy with preserved ejection fractures hypertrophic.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
When when you see those guys with big beer bellies
as you noticed, it is it I mean, are you
looking at some one that is in real trouble relative
to the heart disease?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yes, yeah, this is a it's a real problem and
they probably are going to suffer from heart failure if
they live long enough. And and so it's something that
needs to be corrected.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And there are a lot of people that have low
level of heart failure that that aren't even aware of it.
They just think that they have decreased exercise tolerance. So
if you're getting winded easily when you're when you're exercising
or working out, you go up one flight of stairs
and you're winded, you probably should see your doctor and
look into what you can do to fix that. That's
not normal.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
All right, Jim, we'll talking in next week as we
always do. Take care and.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
All right, take care.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Neil, you measured you, you had to take measure there
and you did some measuring.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
As for something else. Kono joke.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, sure told you. Ah, there we
go and the tattoo. I just I was born in
tuscal Usa, Alabama. But you couldn't get past the TuS.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I get that. Okay, we are done.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
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Cosco CAMPI AM six forty, don't handle here. It is
a Wednesday morning, December third, and I want to thank
everybody who donated to Pastathon yesterday. We raised nine hundred
and fifty five thousand dollars and forty two thousand pounds
of pasta and sauce. And we're still We're still going
(00:27):
because you can still donate, and we haven't heard yet
from Wendy's. We're smart and final, and we haven't heard
from the giving machines and the locations all over southern California.
And so we're going to go past the one point
three million dollars we raised last year.
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And without you, it can't be done that simple.
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So please donate to or go to KFI AM six
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Of bucks so we would greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
All right, Costco and this is a Costco story, but
not a food story, which is rather unusual on this show.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, there's part of a food story.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, there are certain costcos regionally that sell balls.
In this case, this is a legal concept that Costco
has balls, and what does that mean? Well, first of all,
public companies and Costco, obviously it's a big public company,
have mostly treated the president with kid gloves during the
second term. They've avoided conflict seeking, favor ornate gifts, large
(01:30):
donations to Pet project, strategic deployments of CEOs to the
Oval Office.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The Wall Street Journal said today, if you literally.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
And this was a term they use, if you declare
the magnificence of President Trump, then you are going to
be treated very well. Another pardon a democrat, but who
was being looked at for serious financial crimes, who, as
a Democrat in Congress, consistently talked about and derided Joe
(02:06):
Biden's policy on immigration, has now been pardoned. Again, if
you believe in the president, you're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So what did Costco do Well?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
They filed a lawsuit that contends that Trump overstepped his
emergency powers by imposing those sweeping tariffs and claiming that
the company is to a refund because, as President Trump
has said, it's the countries that sell to us that
are paying the tariffs. They are not we are paying
(02:41):
the tariffs. And when we buy at Costco Walmart, that
bring in products from China, for example, they end up
paying the terriffs. Sometimes they suck it up, sometimes they
pass it on, and Costco is saying we want a refund.
By the way, they're not alone either Bumblebee Foods, Ray
Bands the president the parent company, Revlon Kawasaki. But Costco
(03:05):
is the highest profile public company. And why is this
such a big deal Because very few major corporations have
been willing to stick their necks out, which is very
different than Trump's first term, where the businesses and leaders
felt a lot more comfortable speaking out.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And now multiple CEOs.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Have lined up to go into the Oval Office to
DEI programs are gone. Trump's second term has largely been
major corporations sucking up. Big business has enjoyed his regulatory policies,
particularly on AI that makes sense business wise. I don't
(03:49):
have a problem with that. I don't agree with it,
but I don't have a problem but getting on his
good sized side that is a big deal. Tariffs very
unpopular with Americans because the affordability crisis that we have
are connected to our view of the terriffs. A CBS
News poll say that thirty eight percent of Americans favor
(04:13):
new tariffs a majority sixty two percent oppose. So Costco
is not going to get too many people pissed off.
What they're going to do is get the government pissed
off this administration. Now, as far as the lawsuit is concerned,
Supreme Court appears ready to declare those tariffs ill legal,
(04:37):
that Trump in fact overstepped his Congress, because overstep the
Congress in his authority, because the law says that Congress
imposes tariffs, not the president, and he is arguing that economics,
what's going on in this country financially is an emergency
(04:57):
situation where he has to come in, much like when
war is declared, it's an emergency situation, and he has
declared that the balance of trade is enough of emergency,
a national emergency, that he has to come in and
deal with it with tariffs.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I don't think the court's going to buy that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
There's and not that many companies have been in favor
or have gone against the president. In April, White House
Secretary Caroline Levitt held up a photo of Jeff Bezos
she did in a press briefing and said that the
company is considering advertising tariffs costs to comfort to customers
(05:40):
that was the first time and Trump threatened the company. Also,
Walmart said it would raise prices because of the tariffs.
The Trump administration at that point said that that company
may maybe hit with additional costs. Tim Cook, the CEO
(06:01):
of Apple, promised an additional one hundred billion dollars in
US investment, which Trump is doing.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I mean, this is the point.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of all this is to bring investment into the United States,
create jobs, to build factories.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Understood. I mean, there's no issue in my mind.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
That is his goal. That's his motivation. Now how he
gets there is something else. He believes his tariffs. A
lot of people don't. A lot of people think the
legal system believe that he doesn't have the authority to
do that.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And what's going up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Incidentally, when Tim Cook went to the White House, he
presented the President with a plaque and with a twenty
four carrot gold base solid gold base. Isn't that special,
you bet? And that's not unusual. And again it's which
companies are going to have the balls to stand up
(06:57):
and Costco's the biggest at this point, the most the
biggest public company willing to do that, and they take
real chances of dealing with the president's I r. The
president has enormous power, as you know. And boy, it
is so simple with this president. There is nothing complicated
about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And he said that in his agenda. His agenda is
exactly what he said when he was running. You like me,
I'm going to take care of you. You don't like me,
I'm going to basically destroy you. It's simple and it's tough,
all right. A lot going on in Washington with Pete Hesith,
(07:38):
the Secretary of War not Defense, and it has to
do with one of those drug boats that were leaving Venezuela,
the ones that are being attacked by the president. And
by the way, I believe those are drug boats. I
have no problem with blowing them out of the water.
The problem is legally does the president have the authority
to do that, And that's gonna up through the courts.
(08:01):
But here's what happened in this boat incident in September.
There was a double hit, which means the boat exploded,
which you've seen videos of those boats exploded, and there
were two survivors that were clinging to the wreckage, and
the aircraft took both of them out, attacked both of them.
(08:26):
International law says you can't do that when someone is
no longer a threat done, and the President has said
that the threat is drugs coming into the country. Okay,
I'll buy that, and therefore it's a national emergency. Okay,
I can see that argument. But a couple of guys
clinging to wreckage in the Caribbean, that's a different story.
(08:48):
I mean really, Okay, So now heg seth. This is
a great story. Heg seth as it broke on CNN,
and I think it was also the Wall Street Journal
said that it was fake news, that that never happened.
(09:10):
Then it turned around that okay, it happened, but the
decision to do it was not mine. It was the
commander of that area who made the decision, and I
wasn't in the room when that decision was made. I
was there when the first attack, was there what happened,
(09:32):
but then I left right after that, and I wasn't
aware that the second attack happened, although he had said
previously he was there the entire time and he didn't
make the decision.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It was the commander made the decision.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And Caroline Levitt, who is the Press secretary after all this,
said that whatever happened was within the confines, the authority
that he had, within the president's authority. Not denying any
of that happen. It's just this is all legal. And
then heg Seth comes back and says, this is the.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Fog of war. That's what this is about. Simply the
fogs of war.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And let me tell you who it's pissing off a
lot of Republicans GOP. Senator Roger white Wicker, who chairs
the Senate Armed Services Committee, has pledged a vigorous oversight.
They are not happy. I mean, the Democrats is a given.
Whatever Trump does, they're unhappy with it. But even you
have the os by the way, so Washington Post and
(10:38):
CNN that released the information about it. And I got
to tell you where this is going to go. I
don't know within the administration.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
It's going to go.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No place the president has backed heg Seth one, although
on Air Force one, he goes, I didn't know it happened.
I didn't make any decision about it. Yeah, it shouldn't
have happened. I wouldn't have ordered that second strike, but
I didn't know anything at all.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So now it's going to go to.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
General Bradley, who is in charge of that area. He's
the commander of four of the forces in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And what does he say?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
He is going to have to roll over and say, yep,
I made the decision and pete Hegseth never I was
never given any orders at all. I did it on
my own. And does he suck it up? Do does
he retire? Does is he fired? For example? Because Hegseth
(11:46):
has fired many senior military officers, many of them he
cleaned out the joint the Joint chiefs or the joint Yeah,
the Joint chiefs of Staff. I think Joint Chiefs is
one cleaned out the you know, the five guys who
run the armed services.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think it's the chiefs of staff. My mind goes
crazy on this one.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And so I think that he's gonna suck it up.
He's not gonna be he is not going to be well,
maybe he will, maybe he will, maybe he'll be fired.
Is he going to be brought back to be court
martialed like Mark Kelly, the astronaut who's a Democrat who
was one of those five who did the video against
(12:34):
Donald Trump, where HeiG Seth has said basically or the
President has said these five senators and congress people are
traders and should be tried and given the death sentence.
But they're all Democrats, and so I can't wait to
see what happens on this one.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Maybe they've overstepped, maybe and do I. I'll tell you
what I believe.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I believe that it's Hexseth who made the decision, gave
the order to go ahead and take out those survivors.
And the quote is that I don't want any survivors,
I believe was the quote. And now the heads are
going to roll. The President didn't know anything about it.
Hegset didn't know anything about it. I don't have any idea.
(13:24):
And when he said I saw it all in real time,
I really didn't see it all in real time. I
left right after the first strike, so I don't know
what happened, right, and now it's just a fog of war.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh isn't life wonderful?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It's time for doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer for
Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, and Jim,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh he just dropped out.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, we'll call back, but I want to give a
little backstory before he joins us. It was very important
for me to have my daughters not get tattoos. Matter
of fact, that was part of my trust, my trust
that literally said you will not get tattoos. If you
get a tattoo, you are disinherited. And so they didn't
(14:10):
get tattoos almost, No, they didn't until a couple of
years ago where Barbara said, can I get one little
tiny tattoo? I said, okay, the damn broke open. Now
she is tatted up all over the place. Now I
(14:31):
feel differently because Lindsay when I met her and even now.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Is pretty tatted up. Neil is fairly tatted Okay, So, Jim.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I don't know if you've heard about everybody I know,
well everybody Neil and my daughter Barbara pretty tatted up.
But there is a story out there about tattoo ink
and that is not good news. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, tattoo ink. So it doesn't stay put. And I'm
actually surprised to how common mice, you know, how consistent
mice lymphatic systems are too ours because we knew this,
I mean, when you dissect bodies in medical school, if
they had tattoos, a lot of times you'll find tattoo
ink in the actual lymph node. So you know, it's
(15:21):
we knew this about humans, and so they did this
in mice. It turns out that the ink also moves
in mice. And so what they looked at in this
study was what impact does it have on immune response,
especially to vaccinations. So the headline was that it reduces
the vaccinations. That's actually wrong for the study. It does not.
(15:42):
It reduces the response to some vaccines and increases the
response to others. So you know what happens is they
inject They used covid vaccine and they also used flu
vaccine in the In the flu vaccine, we're injecting the
actual you know, the virus itself. So if your immune
systems all ramped up from tattoo inc then it actually
(16:06):
responds better and improves the respond In the covid vaccine,
we're injecting RNA that makes a spike protein of the
virus that you're trying to prevent, and then your body
of a response to that, and in that case it
reduced the efficacy of the vaccine itself. But I mean,
in this study they mentioned it, and in the past
(16:27):
we've also known that tattoos increased your risk of lymphoma.
You know, we don't know why exactly, but they seem
to be associated with them.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm a little confused. Either vaccines are good for you
or they're bad. I mean, tattoos are either good for
you or they're bad for you. And is it both simultaneously.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Well, I mean so, yeah, I wouldn't recommend getting a
tattoo just so that your flu vaccine had a better
response rate. Now, but it is a mixed study here,
I mean, it doesn't show that it's you know that
across the board reduces the response to vaccines. It just
reduces the response to covide vaccine. So of course you
(17:08):
should try to avoid trying to get a vaccination, especially
soon after you've had a tattoo. You want to, you know,
you'd want to try and get your vaccine first if
you're going to get a covide vaccine. Otherwise. Yeah, there's
you know, the tattoos in general, you know, and it
brings up a lot of these issues about the lymphoma,
about the skin cancer, about the risk of tattooing. I mean,
(17:29):
it's not regulated, it's well, it is as a cosmetic
but just like what we measure, how we put things
on your skin if you don't have a skin reaction
to it when it's put on your skin. The FDA
approves these materials, so they don't actually approve anything for
injection into yet.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
All right, two questions. Do you do you have any tattoos?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
No, I don't have any.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, would you be concerned about getting a tattoo?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I guess you know. You weigh the risk increased versus
the benefit, and I probably would never get a massive tattoo.
But I hear the tattoo, the higher the risk. Right,
So I wanted to put somebody's initials on my body
or something like that. I can't imagine that either, but
if I did, I probably would still do it a
tiny little tattoo, but anything big i'd be more concerned about.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, I'm considering a tattoo on my arm, and it
would say this is not a tattoo, that would just
be Neil.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Neil is so tattooed that I'm not overly tattooed. But yes,
I do have some.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I have seen Neil naked, and let me tell you
tattoos are well.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Then I'm gonna go into that with Neil's and my
daughter looking at the tattoos, haying.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah, well you know you thought, here's the problem is
you ran out of space because you were putting. I
come from Tuscaloosa, Alabama, across you know where, and it
just didn't work.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, we're gonna come to Jim. Topic number two.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Men with beer bellies I can face pretty serious heart damage.
I don't want to mention any names Neil, but even
if they aren't overweight, and Neil is both no question
about it and doesn't drink beer, which is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Not much, not much now.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, So first of all, Jim, I want to talk
about how big is a beer belly before it gets dangerous.
I know it's kind of you know, you can't be specific,
but are we talking about those big beer bellies or
even a little one.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, we're talking about forty inch waste. You know, that's
kind of the cutoff where people start getting into the
risk zone. That's just a general overall big not very specific.
This study though, is looking at the waste to hip ratio, right,
so you know, if you measure your hips at the
(19:56):
absolute widest part and then you measure your gut, the
gut be about ninety percent of the hip size, right,
so about ten percent less than your hips. For a
lot of people that gut hangs over right, and the
gut is bigger than hips. That's a problem and that
that results in serious heart issues. And this is we
(20:17):
missed this with BMI and weight. Remember weight is kind
of the crudest You can just get on a scale
and get your weight. BMI is a calculation. It's a
little more accurate as to whether you have too much
weight on your body. But where the weight is really matters,
and having it around your organs, you know, centrally located
inside your gut, around your organs, that's metabolically active fat.
(20:38):
That is, it produces inflammatory cytokinds they call them inflammatory
things that come out into your body and put stress
on your body and your heart and then just the
pumping through there. For some reason, it puts a strain
on the heart. And you can get What happens is
the heart gets the muscle gets thickened, the chambers get smaller.
(21:00):
We call that cardiomyopathy or hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. It's usually associated
with high blood pressure. But what we're saying here is, look,
when you have a patient with the big gut to
waste ratio, you need to look into maybe that's the
problem and they need to start losing some of that
that gut fat.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Isn't that also known as Dunlop's disease. That's when you're
that's when your stomach dunlop over your belt.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Uh. Yeah, yeah, so it's I mean, and this is
the thing is when we get an ultrasound of the heart,
you know, you can we look at ejection fraction as
how your heart's functioning. That's it squeezes out blood, and
we look at how much of the blood it ejects
out of the heart. And this actually shows preserved ejection fractionals.
(21:48):
It's cardiomyopathy with preserved ejection fractures hypertrophic.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
When when you see those guys with big beer bellies
as you noticed, it is it I mean, are you
looking at some one that is in real trouble relative
to the heart disease?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yes, yeah, this is a it's a real problem and
they probably are going to suffer from heart failure if
they live long enough. And and so it's something that
needs to be corrected.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
And there are a lot of people that have low
level of heart failure that that aren't even aware of it.
They just think that they have decreased exercise tolerance. So
if you're getting winded easily when you're when you're exercising
or working out, you go up one flight of stairs
and you're winded, you probably should see your doctor and
look into what you can do to fix that. That's
not normal.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
All right, Jim, we'll talking in next week as we
always do. Take care and.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
All right, take care.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Neil, you measured you, you had to take measure there
and you did some measuring.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
As for something else. Kono joke.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, sure told you. Ah, there we
go and the tattoo. I just I was born in
tuscal Usa, Alabama. But you couldn't get past the TuS.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I get that. Okay, we are done.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
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