November 3, 2025 • 24 mins
(November 03,2025)
Thousands more prosecuted, but is it working? What common jobs have mostly disappeared in the U.S? Here’s the data. AI is making death threats way more realistic.
Thousands more prosecuted, but is it working? What common jobs have mostly disappeared in the U.S? Here’s the data. AI is making death threats way more realistic.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
FI AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Monday morning,
November third, Boy, do we have a lot going on today.
On the good side, it's celebrating the Dodgers win the
second World Series. There will be a parade and there'll
be all kinds of festivities happening in Los Angeles today
(00:34):
and now you're getting the news.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is to when where all of.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That throughout the day here at KFI and AM five
seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's the good side.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Bad side is the Senators are coming back today. The
government shut down thirty four days today, Tomorrow we tie
the worst record of shutdowns in the history of the
United States, and then on Wednesday we beat it and
believing we're to beat it all right now, probably remember
(01:02):
Prop forty seven. Prop forty seven was the people of
California telling criminals, we know that you are valuable human beings,
and we know that you commit crimes not because you're
criminals and slime buckets, but because you are drug addicts,
(01:24):
because you were dropped on your head when you were
a kid. You didn't get enough hugs, and so therefore
it's understandable that you have become a criminal.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And what happened because of Prop.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Forty seven, the what heretofore were felonies became misdemeanors to
the point where anybody shoplifting, for example, under nine hundred
dollars worth of goods, the police really didn't even do
anything because they would it would take more time for
a police person, a police officer to write up the
(01:57):
report than whoever's been arrested to get out of jail
that day. It just became a recurring situation where it
was always going to be a misdemeanor. Okay, so crime
goes crazy. No one is very happy. So now we
have Prop. Thirty six that was passed, and that is
a tougher on crime law. By the way, it was
(02:19):
passed overwhelmingly sixty eight percent. And what the law did
was play stricter punishments on repeat drug and theft defenders.
But at the same time, knowing that these people were
dropped on their heads when they were younger, they promised
to provide those folks who were addicted and had mental
(02:42):
illness an option.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
To have the cases dismissed.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
All they had to do was complete a court approved
treatment program instead. Much like when you get a traffic ticket,
you can go to traffic school, usually comedy comedy traffic school,
and then get the case dismissed at the end of sear. Okay, well,
that's sort of the same concept here a little bit
more serious. So the bulk of the cases filed in
(03:07):
La and Orange and Riverside counties here in southern California,
nearly eighty five hundred of these cases which fell under
the quote Treatment Mandated Felony Act that was created by Prop.
Thirty six, And guess what didn't happen lead the treatment
Even fewer ended up in that dismissal of charges. And
(03:28):
when you look at the figures, they are nothing short
of embarrassing. Under the law, defendants with two or more
drug offenses must plead guilty or no contests to qualify
for the treatment program. And how these programs were instituted
and how they would work was left to each county.
(03:49):
So the critics who say this is a CROC said
that low treatment rates, it was only a repackaged war
on drug And what do we have as a result
of it? Over crowding in jails increased case loads because
there really were no alternatives that California voters expected. Why
(04:10):
were there no alternatives because no money was being spent
on this. One of the things about passing a law
or a proposition, I was, I guess, lucky enough to
be involved in changing the surrogacy laws here in California.
California was his first aid in the Union to actually
pass comprehensive surrogacy laws, and I was all over it
(04:31):
in the mid eighties.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
As you can imagine, if you know, if you listen
to my show.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We spent more time talking about the unintended consequences of
a bill than anything else. A properly written proposition or
a properly written statute or an ordinance must be written
with unintended consequences being part of the thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And so here is is the genius of Prop. Thirty six.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We are going to have this program where people who
are drug addicted or a mental illness, who have been
convicted of two or more of drug or theft offenses
will be able to fall under the Treatment Mandated Felony Act.
In other words, you go ahead and you plead no consciss,
(05:24):
you plead guilty, You're eligible under this law to go
through these programs and then have these charges dismissed.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, that's the good part.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
The unintended or maybe even the intended consequence, there's no
money to pay for this. There ain't any money. How
do you mandate a program that has no money. That's
exactly what Prop thirty six did. So we pass the
state law that then turns to the counties and say,
(05:57):
you guys, figure it out and you pay for it.
And all of a sudden, well, the public defenders, for example,
are saying, what are you guys doing. We have crushing
workloads already, We're unable to take certain cases as it sits.
In San Francisco, one of the public defenders said, the
(06:19):
funds being spent on the deluge of additional prosecutions have
left even fewer resources for actual treatment, the treatment they
should get and diversion programs because there are already some in
existence and it just didn't happen. And here are some
of the figures. I love this, Okay. There was a
(06:40):
report from the Judicial Council of California from December fourteenth
December eighteenth, twenty twenty four, when Prop thirty six went
into effect to June thirtieth, okay, that's six months. There
were eight eight hundred and ninety five treatment mandated felonies
filed by prosecutors in fifty seven different counties, So about
(07:02):
eighty nine hundred felonies that were filed under this act.
About fifteen percent thirteen hundred defendants elected to participate in
this treatment. They were eligible, but only fifteen percent said okay,
I want this treatment.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Seven hundred and seventy one were actually.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Placed in treatment programs, and the ones that successfully completed
the programs and had their cases dismissed was a big
twenty five people.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There is.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
How's that for success? Welcome to a governmental program with
all kinds of un intended consequences. All right, now we
have one. Oh, this is going to be fun. The
Labor Department releases every year jobs which are growing or
(08:03):
even disappearing. For example, this year they got rid of
a definition of one job breakfast cereal manufacturing, which used
to be its own category as a occupation. So if
you look at early senses one hundred years ago, what
kind of jobs were out there? Drovers, hustlers, not hustlers, hostlers, sextons, whitewashers, hucksters, galoons,
(08:32):
gimp tassel makers, ragpickers.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So what's a galloon slinger?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, that involves making the fancy trim for dress uniforms
because they were made by hand, Not the uniform themselves,
but the fancy part, the epaulets, the.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Buttons and all of that. Okay, why not? All right?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So in later year, later years, galoon makers right, became craftspeople.
Carriage and wagon makers became mechanics. Showmen and employees of
shows became entertainers and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean that was an actual job gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Mainly made performed mostly by men in New York and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And that became a miscellaneous manager.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Very few gentlemen was out there, one in two thousand jobs. Now,
look at what happened to us here the definition of
our jobs. All right, before radio, we were either entertainers
or barksters. You know, people hustling folks come on in.
(09:56):
There were people at county shows, at county fairs, hustling
and doing commercials and entertaining people.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
There were storytellers. So look what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The advent of radio comes in and all of a sudden,
you now have professional radio people. You play music, and
there are announcers in radio, and then out of that
evolve talk show hosts, which started basically what in the
nineteen sixties. Well, AI is coming into fruition, and we're
going to do that coming up next segment.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm going to do a spin on that one. You're
going to like.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So we had the entertainers or the hucksters, but not
in a negative way that would just try to convince
you to buy. Who then morphed into radio, who then
morphed into talk show hosts, who now are morphing into
what the Census Bureau is calling ass sitters.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Don't all of these names sound like pejoratives? Do you whitewashing?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Hu? No, No, Jimpy a loon with not a making.
That's really it's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, in the nineties, factory ANNs passed to shopkeepers, Plants
were shuttered, retail jobs proliferated, retail clerks. Those are going
away because you have online retailers, and now we have professionals,
which in companies, white collar jobs, because that seems to
be the only growth. Miners were as big as were
(11:27):
almost as large as farmers. Miners have disappeared because it's
all recognized now farmers have disappeared. There's only a tiny,
tiny percentage of farmers out there. In nineteen eighty, the
village smithy virtually disappeared. I mean they're still out there,
(11:48):
the smithy and makes horseshoes, shoemakers, but not factory shoe.
Factory workers. They were even more common than blacksmith and
so there were cobblers. Cobblers only repaired shoes. Shoemakers made shoes. Yeah,
tailors and sailors that works and Miller's are gone. Stonecutters,
(12:12):
boatmen like on a canal, boatman, that's what they call it,
an eerie canal.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Do you ever take your shoes to a cobbler? I
have anymore?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I have two.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
The greatest thing in the world. It's amazing what they do.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, and there are some people that actually make shoes,
but they're the two thousand dollars repair kind of shoes. Because,
of course, shoemaking disappeared with factories. And here's the other thing.
When factories first came out and started making clothes and shoes,
et cetera, people paid huge premiums for factory made products
(12:47):
because it was so unique. And of course it turned
out that that is not the case. One other thing
I want to point this out, of which the census
ignored in terms of what was a common job or not.
They left out enslave people thirteen percent of the population,
and I say it's at one point were slaves. They
(13:09):
didn't count how unusual, and they did a lot of
the jobs that heretofore were actually considered older jobs. So
the fun part of the sense is galoon slingers. That's
what I want to be when I grow up. Can
you imagine your kid, you know, what do you want
(13:31):
to do when you grow up?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Or you go to school and go.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What do you want to do? I want to be
a ballerina. I want to be an astronaut. I want
to be a fireman. I want to be a galloon
slinger That's the kid I want to know. Now I
want to move into AI, and AI, of course is
changing everything. The hundreds of billions of dollars, the trillions
of dollars are going to be put into AI that
(13:55):
are being put into AI is changing everything. So what AI, Well,
it's already raising concerns for its ability to not only
do what it does, change jobs around and change the
economy around, but also its ability to mimic real voices
in service of scams to produce deep fake pornography without
(14:19):
a subject's permission.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I mean that is tough stuff to deal with.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That, And the technology is always is also being used
for violent threats, and now we're looking at that much
more closely.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And it primes them.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
The violent threats are more personalized, more convincing, more easily delivered.
There's a professor computer science the University of California, Berkeley.
Two things will always happen when technology like this gets developed.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We're going to find.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Clever and creative and exciting ways to use it, and
we're going to find horrific and always awful ways to
abuse it. And the only surprise here is that it's
not surprising. My judge in Florida was sent a video
using a character in Grand Theft Auto features an avatar
(15:11):
who looked and walked being hacked to debt death and
shot to death. By the way the avatar was this judge.
And the technology is getting much easier. It used to
be that only public figures would be getting these threats
because the way the technology works, you need a large
(15:33):
body of information, a large body of your voice or
someone's likeness to create this today, you can create this
out of virtually nothing. A couple of days ago, I
got a death threat.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And is it real? I mean, sometimes they're real.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We've had death threats that were over the years that
we took seriously, others that we didn't. This one was
shared with me by our security people and data. Our
security guard said, Bill, this is real. You better watch
out for this one and let me play it for you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Hey, handle, it's Burt Reynolds. I'm here in Heaven shooting
Cannonball Run eight with Dom Delawise and Dean Martin. I
just wanted to call in and threaten you, you son
of a bitch. I'm going to come down there and
cut you into so many little pieces. Savadra won't be
able to grill all of you up. At one time.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Wow, Number one didn't know that Burt Reynolds was still alive.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Clearly he is not. That is his actual voice when
you listen to anytime Burt Reynolds starts speaking, That's what
his voice is. Now.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Should I be frightened of a dead Burt Reynolds coming
in and hacking me to death and Savadra cooking my parts?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well, the savador part. Yes, I already know.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
What I'd start with, probably the tongue. It's the fattiest part.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Now we take that voice, okay, and let's say we
turn it into a voice that is well, the scam part.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You've heard of the scams for example.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
A child at grandchild is traveling overseas and all of
a sudden someone calls and says he's in prison and
you need to send some money in order to buy
a passport because he lost his passport.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then you get the actual kid talking.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right, Grandma, I'm in prison, Grandma, please help out. I
need five hundred, I need one thousand dollars. Please send
it to this account and they'll let me out. That's
real stuff. And now is there technology that stops this,
that warns this?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So Neil, let me ask you. You looked at this? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Do I then go on some site and do I
ask Number one?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Is Burt Reynolds really alive? Number two?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Was this really Burt Reynolds? And does Neil really have
the recipe to cook up my body parts?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean obviously that was done to be absurd.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Really there are really yeah, most of your show is
done to be absurd. However, there are things that I'm
aware of with my child, for instance, and my wife,
and things I know about them that are not public
that would be things I would ask for or because otherwise,
(18:46):
as far as anything is public, your face, your voice,
anything like that, Yeah, you could generate incredible, incredible fakes
that most people could not see through.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, it's scary stuff. It's scary stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Now if that were a if that were a well
done fake, the only way I would ever be able
to tell that it was real is I know that
Neil would never use cilantro to put on my body part.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
You gotta go. I just know the way you cook.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
You know what's weird. A year ago, maybe two years ago.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
One of the ways you would tell a deep fake
video is it never looked to the left or right.
Because getting a profile was impossible to do. You could
when you attached a face to a video of someone
else to make it look like they were Tom Cruise
or whatever. You wouldn't be able to look left or
right because it would the profile wouldn't look right. Now,
(19:48):
you could nail that. Now, you could absolutely nail that.
You could change the lighting anything.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, what's fake is real? What's real is fake? Yeah,
welcome to the world.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Tune in this morning for coverage of the Dodgers Championship
celebration and parade starting at eleven AM on five seven
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The keyword is a M five to seventy l A Sports,
presented part by Strauss from the Ballfield to the job
site Strauss dot Com. Uh, hey, cono real quickly, question
(20:22):
because this is in up your wheelhouse, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Uh, the what team?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I know the Yankees won the most World Series,
which is number second?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Would it be the Dodgers number two? On that one? No,
I just saw this. I believe it's the Giants. Okay,
I'm just curious, all right, But don't quote me on that. No,
I won't. He said, the Giants.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
That was Kno, Stephen Kono from I E.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's correct, Giant.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
That okay, solid voice of reason.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh okay, correction, Saint Louis Cardinals, thank you. Okay, forget that.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Raive Coto is a liar, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And he went on the record like go Weedieu fair enough,
okay now, and I'm going to throw this one to you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh anism there.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We have about three minutes left in this segment, so
I'm going to save this until Monday. And this is
plastic bags are going to be gone finished from grocery
stores next year. Our Attorney General, Rob Bonta just announced
a legal settlement. What's weird about this settlement. I'm going
to talk more about this coming up on Monday. What's
(21:34):
weird about this settlement? It's all settled up three months
before it's all going to happen anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
All right, okay, now what now?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Before we do bail from the show, I want to
remind a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Remind you of a couple things.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Number One, we need your phone calls for ask handle Anything.
We can't do it without you. And these are phone
calls that are recorded and then I answer them. At
eight thirty on Friday, I just go during the course
of the show. You go to the iHeartRadio app. You
click on the bill handle show right hand corner, click
on the microphone, and you ask me a question. And
it's asked handle Anything, And it's designed to and succeeds
(22:13):
in completely embarrassing me because that's always fun. Also, a
reminder that coming up this Saturday, and we do this
every year, Neil at on his broadcast The Fork Report,
is going to be doing a remote live from the
Wildfork Food Store in Laguna Miguel. I am joining him,
(22:35):
and it is Thanks Grilling, and Thanks Grilling is all
about some great food and it's grilling and you'll have
we'll have chefs and of course the food from Wildfork,
the proteins, the meats are just phenomenal. Yeah, they are fantastic,
but we'll talk about that, and then you get a
lot of free samples. I mean free samples, not the
costco small samples, the ones that I throw people out
(22:58):
of my way to eat. I'm talking to really healthy
number and amount of food you'll walk away, you'll walk
away stuffed. And that's coming up this Saturday. Zelman's will
be there, they'll be giveaways, there'll be free samples from Zelman.
So calendar that one and that's the Fork Report Thanks Grilling,
which I join Neil every year, So I'll be there too,
(23:20):
and you'll get to yell at me. Okay, I think
we are done. Gary and Shann up next. Don't forget
the Dodgers Championship celebration today and the parade starting at
eleven o'clock as we cheer on the Dodgers. I will
be nowhere near there, not interested. I don't need a sunburn,
(23:41):
I don't need third degrade, the third degree burns. I'm
not going to be anywhere near cars or dumpsters that
are being torched. It is simply not going to happen.
All right, tomorrow, we're back again. Amy is back, Heather,
thank you for being here. Yeah, I know it's it
wasn't my choice. Management, shove this one down my throat. Wow.
(24:02):
And then so Amy's back and we uh just start
all over again. Yeh God, it just seems like we
just did this yesterday. This is KFI AM six.
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November third, Boy, do we have a lot going on today.
On the good side, it's celebrating the Dodgers win the
second World Series. There will be a parade and there'll
be all kinds of festivities happening in Los Angeles today
(00:34):
and now you're getting the news.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Is to when where all of.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That throughout the day here at KFI and AM five
seventy LA Sports.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's the good side.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Bad side is the Senators are coming back today. The
government shut down thirty four days today, Tomorrow we tie
the worst record of shutdowns in the history of the
United States, and then on Wednesday we beat it and
believing we're to beat it all right now, probably remember
(01:02):
Prop forty seven. Prop forty seven was the people of
California telling criminals, we know that you are valuable human beings,
and we know that you commit crimes not because you're
criminals and slime buckets, but because you are drug addicts,
(01:24):
because you were dropped on your head when you were
a kid. You didn't get enough hugs, and so therefore
it's understandable that you have become a criminal.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And what happened because of Prop.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Forty seven, the what heretofore were felonies became misdemeanors to
the point where anybody shoplifting, for example, under nine hundred
dollars worth of goods, the police really didn't even do
anything because they would it would take more time for
a police person, a police officer to write up the
(01:57):
report than whoever's been arrested to get out of jail
that day. It just became a recurring situation where it
was always going to be a misdemeanor. Okay, so crime
goes crazy. No one is very happy. So now we
have Prop. Thirty six that was passed, and that is
a tougher on crime law. By the way, it was
(02:19):
passed overwhelmingly sixty eight percent. And what the law did
was play stricter punishments on repeat drug and theft defenders.
But at the same time, knowing that these people were
dropped on their heads when they were younger, they promised
to provide those folks who were addicted and had mental
(02:42):
illness an option.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
To have the cases dismissed.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
All they had to do was complete a court approved
treatment program instead. Much like when you get a traffic ticket,
you can go to traffic school, usually comedy comedy traffic school,
and then get the case dismissed at the end of sear. Okay, well,
that's sort of the same concept here a little bit
more serious. So the bulk of the cases filed in
(03:07):
La and Orange and Riverside counties here in southern California,
nearly eighty five hundred of these cases which fell under
the quote Treatment Mandated Felony Act that was created by Prop.
Thirty six, And guess what didn't happen lead the treatment
Even fewer ended up in that dismissal of charges. And
(03:28):
when you look at the figures, they are nothing short
of embarrassing. Under the law, defendants with two or more
drug offenses must plead guilty or no contests to qualify
for the treatment program. And how these programs were instituted
and how they would work was left to each county.
(03:49):
So the critics who say this is a CROC said
that low treatment rates, it was only a repackaged war
on drug And what do we have as a result
of it? Over crowding in jails increased case loads because
there really were no alternatives that California voters expected. Why
(04:10):
were there no alternatives because no money was being spent
on this. One of the things about passing a law
or a proposition, I was, I guess, lucky enough to
be involved in changing the surrogacy laws here in California.
California was his first aid in the Union to actually
pass comprehensive surrogacy laws, and I was all over it
(04:31):
in the mid eighties.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
As you can imagine, if you know, if you listen
to my show.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We spent more time talking about the unintended consequences of
a bill than anything else. A properly written proposition or
a properly written statute or an ordinance must be written
with unintended consequences being part of the thinking.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And so here is is the genius of Prop. Thirty six.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
We are going to have this program where people who
are drug addicted or a mental illness, who have been
convicted of two or more of drug or theft offenses
will be able to fall under the Treatment Mandated Felony Act.
In other words, you go ahead and you plead no consciss,
(05:24):
you plead guilty, You're eligible under this law to go
through these programs and then have these charges dismissed.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, that's the good part.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
The unintended or maybe even the intended consequence, there's no
money to pay for this. There ain't any money. How
do you mandate a program that has no money. That's
exactly what Prop thirty six did. So we pass the
state law that then turns to the counties and say,
(05:57):
you guys, figure it out and you pay for it.
And all of a sudden, well, the public defenders, for example,
are saying, what are you guys doing. We have crushing
workloads already, We're unable to take certain cases as it sits.
In San Francisco, one of the public defenders said, the
(06:19):
funds being spent on the deluge of additional prosecutions have
left even fewer resources for actual treatment, the treatment they
should get and diversion programs because there are already some in
existence and it just didn't happen. And here are some
of the figures. I love this, Okay. There was a
(06:40):
report from the Judicial Council of California from December fourteenth
December eighteenth, twenty twenty four, when Prop thirty six went
into effect to June thirtieth, okay, that's six months. There
were eight eight hundred and ninety five treatment mandated felonies
filed by prosecutors in fifty seven different counties, So about
(07:02):
eighty nine hundred felonies that were filed under this act.
About fifteen percent thirteen hundred defendants elected to participate in
this treatment. They were eligible, but only fifteen percent said okay,
I want this treatment.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Seven hundred and seventy one were actually.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Placed in treatment programs, and the ones that successfully completed
the programs and had their cases dismissed was a big
twenty five people.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
There is.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
How's that for success? Welcome to a governmental program with
all kinds of un intended consequences. All right, now we
have one. Oh, this is going to be fun. The
Labor Department releases every year jobs which are growing or
(08:03):
even disappearing. For example, this year they got rid of
a definition of one job breakfast cereal manufacturing, which used
to be its own category as a occupation. So if
you look at early senses one hundred years ago, what
kind of jobs were out there? Drovers, hustlers, not hustlers, hostlers, sextons, whitewashers, hucksters, galoons,
(08:32):
gimp tassel makers, ragpickers.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So what's a galloon slinger?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, that involves making the fancy trim for dress uniforms
because they were made by hand, Not the uniform themselves,
but the fancy part, the epaulets, the.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Buttons and all of that. Okay, why not? All right?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So in later year, later years, galoon makers right, became craftspeople.
Carriage and wagon makers became mechanics. Showmen and employees of
shows became entertainers and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean that was an actual job gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Mainly made performed mostly by men in New York and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And that became a miscellaneous manager.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Very few gentlemen was out there, one in two thousand jobs. Now,
look at what happened to us here the definition of
our jobs. All right, before radio, we were either entertainers
or barksters. You know, people hustling folks come on in.
(09:56):
There were people at county shows, at county fairs, hustling
and doing commercials and entertaining people.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
There were storytellers. So look what happened.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The advent of radio comes in and all of a sudden,
you now have professional radio people. You play music, and
there are announcers in radio, and then out of that
evolve talk show hosts, which started basically what in the
nineteen sixties. Well, AI is coming into fruition, and we're
going to do that coming up next segment.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm going to do a spin on that one. You're
going to like.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So we had the entertainers or the hucksters, but not
in a negative way that would just try to convince
you to buy. Who then morphed into radio, who then
morphed into talk show hosts, who now are morphing into
what the Census Bureau is calling ass sitters.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Don't all of these names sound like pejoratives? Do you whitewashing?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Hu? No, No, Jimpy a loon with not a making.
That's really it's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, in the nineties, factory ANNs passed to shopkeepers, Plants
were shuttered, retail jobs proliferated, retail clerks. Those are going
away because you have online retailers, and now we have professionals,
which in companies, white collar jobs, because that seems to
be the only growth. Miners were as big as were
(11:27):
almost as large as farmers. Miners have disappeared because it's
all recognized now farmers have disappeared. There's only a tiny,
tiny percentage of farmers out there. In nineteen eighty, the
village smithy virtually disappeared. I mean they're still out there,
(11:48):
the smithy and makes horseshoes, shoemakers, but not factory shoe.
Factory workers. They were even more common than blacksmith and
so there were cobblers. Cobblers only repaired shoes. Shoemakers made shoes. Yeah,
tailors and sailors that works and Miller's are gone. Stonecutters,
(12:12):
boatmen like on a canal, boatman, that's what they call it,
an eerie canal.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Do you ever take your shoes to a cobbler? I
have anymore?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I have two.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
The greatest thing in the world. It's amazing what they do.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, and there are some people that actually make shoes,
but they're the two thousand dollars repair kind of shoes. Because,
of course, shoemaking disappeared with factories. And here's the other thing.
When factories first came out and started making clothes and shoes,
et cetera, people paid huge premiums for factory made products
(12:47):
because it was so unique. And of course it turned
out that that is not the case. One other thing
I want to point this out, of which the census
ignored in terms of what was a common job or not.
They left out enslave people thirteen percent of the population,
and I say it's at one point were slaves. They
(13:09):
didn't count how unusual, and they did a lot of
the jobs that heretofore were actually considered older jobs. So
the fun part of the sense is galoon slingers. That's
what I want to be when I grow up. Can
you imagine your kid, you know, what do you want
(13:31):
to do when you grow up?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Or you go to school and go.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What do you want to do? I want to be
a ballerina. I want to be an astronaut. I want
to be a fireman. I want to be a galloon
slinger That's the kid I want to know. Now I
want to move into AI, and AI, of course is
changing everything. The hundreds of billions of dollars, the trillions
of dollars are going to be put into AI that
(13:55):
are being put into AI is changing everything. So what AI, Well,
it's already raising concerns for its ability to not only
do what it does, change jobs around and change the
economy around, but also its ability to mimic real voices
in service of scams to produce deep fake pornography without
(14:19):
a subject's permission.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I mean that is tough stuff to deal with.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That, And the technology is always is also being used
for violent threats, and now we're looking at that much
more closely.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
And it primes them.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
The violent threats are more personalized, more convincing, more easily delivered.
There's a professor computer science the University of California, Berkeley.
Two things will always happen when technology like this gets developed.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We're going to find.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Clever and creative and exciting ways to use it, and
we're going to find horrific and always awful ways to
abuse it. And the only surprise here is that it's
not surprising. My judge in Florida was sent a video
using a character in Grand Theft Auto features an avatar
(15:11):
who looked and walked being hacked to debt death and
shot to death. By the way the avatar was this judge.
And the technology is getting much easier. It used to
be that only public figures would be getting these threats
because the way the technology works, you need a large
(15:33):
body of information, a large body of your voice or
someone's likeness to create this today, you can create this
out of virtually nothing. A couple of days ago, I
got a death threat.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
And is it real? I mean, sometimes they're real.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
We've had death threats that were over the years that
we took seriously, others that we didn't. This one was
shared with me by our security people and data. Our
security guard said, Bill, this is real. You better watch
out for this one and let me play it for you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Hey, handle, it's Burt Reynolds. I'm here in Heaven shooting
Cannonball Run eight with Dom Delawise and Dean Martin. I
just wanted to call in and threaten you, you son
of a bitch. I'm going to come down there and
cut you into so many little pieces. Savadra won't be
able to grill all of you up. At one time.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Wow, Number one didn't know that Burt Reynolds was still alive.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Clearly he is not. That is his actual voice when
you listen to anytime Burt Reynolds starts speaking, That's what
his voice is. Now.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Should I be frightened of a dead Burt Reynolds coming
in and hacking me to death and Savadra cooking my parts?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well, the savador part. Yes, I already know.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
What I'd start with, probably the tongue. It's the fattiest part.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Well, thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Now we take that voice, okay, and let's say we
turn it into a voice that is well, the scam part.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You've heard of the scams for example.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
A child at grandchild is traveling overseas and all of
a sudden someone calls and says he's in prison and
you need to send some money in order to buy
a passport because he lost his passport.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then you get the actual kid talking.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Right, Grandma, I'm in prison, Grandma, please help out. I
need five hundred, I need one thousand dollars. Please send
it to this account and they'll let me out. That's
real stuff. And now is there technology that stops this,
that warns this?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So Neil, let me ask you. You looked at this? Okay?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Do I then go on some site and do I
ask Number one?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Is Burt Reynolds really alive? Number two?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Was this really Burt Reynolds? And does Neil really have
the recipe to cook up my body parts?
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I mean obviously that was done to be absurd.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Really there are really yeah, most of your show is
done to be absurd. However, there are things that I'm
aware of with my child, for instance, and my wife,
and things I know about them that are not public
that would be things I would ask for or because otherwise,
(18:46):
as far as anything is public, your face, your voice,
anything like that, Yeah, you could generate incredible, incredible fakes
that most people could not see through.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, it's scary stuff. It's scary stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Now if that were a if that were a well
done fake, the only way I would ever be able
to tell that it was real is I know that
Neil would never use cilantro to put on my body part.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
You gotta go. I just know the way you cook.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
You know what's weird. A year ago, maybe two years ago.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
One of the ways you would tell a deep fake
video is it never looked to the left or right.
Because getting a profile was impossible to do. You could
when you attached a face to a video of someone
else to make it look like they were Tom Cruise
or whatever. You wouldn't be able to look left or
right because it would the profile wouldn't look right. Now,
(19:48):
you could nail that. Now, you could absolutely nail that.
You could change the lighting anything.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, what's fake is real? What's real is fake? Yeah,
welcome to the world.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Tune in this morning for coverage of the Dodgers Championship
celebration and parade starting at eleven AM on five seven
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The keyword is a M five to seventy l A Sports,
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site Strauss dot Com. Uh, hey, cono real quickly, question
(20:22):
because this is in up your wheelhouse, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Uh, the what team?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I know the Yankees won the most World Series,
which is number second?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Would it be the Dodgers number two? On that one? No,
I just saw this. I believe it's the Giants. Okay,
I'm just curious, all right, But don't quote me on that. No,
I won't. He said, the Giants.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
That was Kno, Stephen Kono from I E.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's correct, Giant.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
That okay, solid voice of reason.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh okay, correction, Saint Louis Cardinals, thank you. Okay, forget that.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Raive Coto is a liar, okay.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And he went on the record like go Weedieu fair enough,
okay now, and I'm going to throw this one to you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh anism there.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
We have about three minutes left in this segment, so
I'm going to save this until Monday. And this is
plastic bags are going to be gone finished from grocery
stores next year. Our Attorney General, Rob Bonta just announced
a legal settlement. What's weird about this settlement. I'm going
to talk more about this coming up on Monday. What's
(21:34):
weird about this settlement? It's all settled up three months
before it's all going to happen anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
All right, okay, now what now?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Before we do bail from the show, I want to
remind a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Remind you of a couple things.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Number One, we need your phone calls for ask handle Anything.
We can't do it without you. And these are phone
calls that are recorded and then I answer them. At
eight thirty on Friday, I just go during the course
of the show. You go to the iHeartRadio app. You
click on the bill handle show right hand corner, click
on the microphone, and you ask me a question. And
it's asked handle Anything, And it's designed to and succeeds
(22:13):
in completely embarrassing me because that's always fun. Also, a
reminder that coming up this Saturday, and we do this
every year, Neil at on his broadcast The Fork Report,
is going to be doing a remote live from the
Wildfork Food Store in Laguna Miguel. I am joining him,
(22:35):
and it is Thanks Grilling, and Thanks Grilling is all
about some great food and it's grilling and you'll have
we'll have chefs and of course the food from Wildfork,
the proteins, the meats are just phenomenal. Yeah, they are fantastic,
but we'll talk about that, and then you get a
lot of free samples. I mean free samples, not the
costco small samples, the ones that I throw people out
(22:58):
of my way to eat. I'm talking to really healthy
number and amount of food you'll walk away, you'll walk
away stuffed. And that's coming up this Saturday. Zelman's will
be there, they'll be giveaways, there'll be free samples from Zelman.
So calendar that one and that's the Fork Report Thanks Grilling,
which I join Neil every year, So I'll be there too,
(23:20):
and you'll get to yell at me. Okay, I think
we are done. Gary and Shann up next. Don't forget
the Dodgers Championship celebration today and the parade starting at
eleven o'clock as we cheer on the Dodgers. I will
be nowhere near there, not interested. I don't need a sunburn,
(23:41):
I don't need third degrade, the third degree burns. I'm
not going to be anywhere near cars or dumpsters that
are being torched. It is simply not going to happen.
All right, tomorrow, we're back again. Amy is back, Heather,
thank you for being here. Yeah, I know it's it
wasn't my choice. Management, shove this one down my throat. Wow.
(24:02):
And then so Amy's back and we uh just start
all over again. Yeh God, it just seems like we
just did this yesterday. This is KFI AM six.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
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Speaker 2 (24:18):
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