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October 7, 2025 23 mins
(October 07,2025)
Burbank airport air traffic control tower unmanned amid federal shutdown. What is it that democrats want? COVID era-extensions. Trump open to invoking the Insurrection Act… what is it? Parking will soon cost more in the city of Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI A
M six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
No, it's just shut down, shut down KFI AM six
forty bill Handle. Here it is a Taco Tuesday, October seven.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Burbank Airport.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Now, for those of you that don't know Hollywood Burbank,
I used to be Bob Hope and well it's Hollywood Burbank,
and then it became Bob Hope and now it's just
Burbank Airport.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's about ten minutes from the station.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And it is probably the nicest airport in southern California.
Not so much the way it looks because it's been
around for a while, it's just the way it operates.
There are two terminals. I think they're building a third terminal.
It is easy. Parking is simple. I mean unlike lax.

(00:58):
I picked up Lindsay over the weekend and she has
come back from Europe and went, oh my god, it
was a crap show and it's forty minutes just to
get into that.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
You it was just nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So here's Burbank Airport, in my opinion, one of the
best airports in the country. If you can bail out
and or people do everything they can to leave and
come back on Burbank. Well, there's a big issue with
air traffic controllers, as you can imagine, and Burbank Airport
is the poster child because it got hit the worst
with this TSA. Air traffic control controllers, specifically air traffic

(01:36):
controllers during the shutdown do not get paid, but they
must go to work, and there is a shortage of
air traffic controllers and they are working now in many
cases ten hours a day, six days a week. It
is one, if not the most stressful job that exists.

(01:58):
I mean, you're putting airplane in the sky and you're
telling them where to go, at what level, what speed,
coming in and leaving, you make a mistake and three
hundred people die or three hundred people could die.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And so it is a mess.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
And what happened at Hollywood Burdbank a pilot came in
and asked for directions was flying in, and the pilot
got a recorded message saying there is no air traffic

(02:38):
controllers because of understaffing, we have none here that can
help you.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
WHOA, that's pleasant all right now?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
If you were on that airplane and you got that news,
that wouldn't be pleasant. I'm assuming that the pilot didn't
share that with the people on the plane, but it.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Was it was trade. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
And it also what happens is during these times is
that people call in sick.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
They're not getting paid. They probably will get paid.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Historically they've always gotten paid retroactively, but right now they
can't make the mortgage, they can't buy groceries, so they
have to go into savings, they have to go into
credit cards. And so during these times, and this is
across the board with the government workers, those that are
forced to work without pay, and that is a huge

(03:35):
number out of the four million employees, so.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
They call in sick.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Interestingly enough, according to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, there was
only a small uptick and air traffic controllers calling in sick.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
The delays now people.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Was that airplanes were still taking off and landing because
the rules kick over when there are no air traffic controllers.
I mean, they're still flying going on, but the pilots
effectively have to control themselves.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And these if I remember, I don't remember what you
call them.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
But they are not only air traffic controllers at the airport,
but they're also regional controllers that as soon as you
leave airspace and the regional people take over, those still
seem to be working, but.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
The delays are astronomical.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
As a five pm out going this yesterday, outgoing flights
at Hollywood Burbank delayed an average of two hours two
and a half hours. The longest delay was three almost
four hours, just short of four hours. Oh man, oh
the name of that the control tower. If it's unmanned.

(04:53):
Then you have air traffics called Tracon, which interestingly is
a private organizations as rated by the FAA and uses radar.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Technology, old technology.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's the other thing is that we that is in
the United States, we have a technology that came in
in the sixties. Now, one thing that the federal government
did is they did pay a company to revamp the
entire air traffic control system, and the company screwed it up.

(05:27):
It got even worse. So are they making a move?
If you're going to fly, let me make a suggestion.
If you have to fly from here to San Francisco,
for example, instead of using a Hollywood Burbank, I would
suggest flying out of Stuttgard, Germany. They have very good technology.

(05:51):
They know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You know what the median salary is for an air
traffic controller, I do not it's approximately about one hundred
and forty five thousand dollars. And that's not enough, right,
It can be depending on you know, experience and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well over, the training is years, literally years, because it
is a job that is number one, very technical, very
difficult to do.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
But the lives that are on the line. All right now,
I want.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
To share with you what's going on with the shutdown,
and it all is a predicator on healthcare demands.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
The Democrats won, that's it.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
The Republicans want a stop gap measure, and this happens
all the time, is continuing resolution, which says we can't
agree on a bunch of stuff, but we'll negotiate later,
and in the meantime, let's pass the measure that allows
the government to keep on functioning. Because, as I talked to,
as I spoke in my last segment, air traffic control,

(07:00):
for example, among many others, are forced to work by
law and are not getting paid. And so the Republicans
are saying, we always pass one of these, and we're
not asking for anything more or not negotiating additional bills
or amendments. We'll just leave it exactly alone the way
it is for another month, another two months till the

(07:22):
end of November, and the Democrats say no, no, no,
we're not going to cross that line anymore. We are
going to have the extension of the health care healthcare demands. Now,
the Republicans are cutting healthcare.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
But it depends on how you perceive cutting.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Let's say you get a raise, temporary raise because of
whatever situation, temporary situation.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
In this case, it was COVID.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And then your boss kicks it back and says, you
know what, We're going to.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Go back to where we were.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, you're well, your wages are being cut, aren't they.
And your boss says, no, they're not being cut. We're
just not going to keep the money being paid. We
told you it was temporary, and temporary is now over.
That's what's going on here. The problem is that temporary
allowed tens of millions of low income, middle income workers

(08:26):
to afford insurance under Obamacare. They now have insurance because
of the extension, because of the added but COVID regulations
that allowed them to have it, which the government paid
for subsidized.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
And here is the difference.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
The Republicans want to cut it all or cut a
lot of it, and the Democrats are saying, you can't
cut it because so many people are now going to
be uninsured. Again, this also has to medicate. We're talking
tens of millions of people. I mean, we're seventy million
people are going to be affected somehow or another. And
tens of millions are either their insurance is going to
double or they're simply not going to be able to

(09:11):
afford insurance at all. And the Democrats are saying, this
ain't going to happen. And either you keep those extensions
going because so many people desperately need it, or we're
not going to vote the budget in that's all, We're
not going to have a budget, and the government shuts down.

(09:31):
And there is a philosophical difference, and it really is
a philosophical difference.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
The Trump administration wants to.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Pour money into the border protection and into the military,
and does not want to pour money into social programs.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
It just doesn't believe in social programs. Why because of waste,
because of fraud. By the way, I.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Want to make a point, there is no such thing
as waste or fraud in the military. It doesn't exist.
The military is clean of waste and fraud and immigration.
There is no fraud or waste at all. It's only
in the social programs that exist. The philosophical difference is

(10:15):
that the government should not support people who need money
and need help, or should limit the amount of money
that goes to these people. And it is a big
one because we're talking about well the cuts, well the
cuts or the lack of the extension is going to

(10:37):
be about a trillion dollars over the next ten years.
And that bill passed by the way, the Tax and
Spending bill, which cut everything past this summer under the
big beautiful bill, and it went through there, and so
you've got the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office. Ten million additional

(10:59):
Merriica will become uninsured in the next decade, between Medicaid
and other healthcare programs, the Democrats insisting on an extension
of those programs, the money that was paid, the subsidies
that were put in during COVID.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
And so which way is it going to go, Who's
going to.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Win, who's going to lose? Right now, no one is compromising.
Compromise doesn't exist anymore in this government. And the real issue,
the political issue, because that's all everybody cares about.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Now.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Frankly, that's the bottom line. Who's going to be blamed
for it? Now? Up to this point, the Republican's been
blamed for it, and it.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Costs them political points.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
The longest shutdown of the government in the history of
the United States happened during Donald Trump's first tenure thirty
five days. We'll see what happens this time around as
to who gets blamed. And the Democrats are saying, you
have no ho to the Republicans, you have no heart.
Do these people deserve medical care? Do they deserve subsidize insurance?

(12:10):
And the Republicans are saying basically no. And then the
Republicans are saying, don't we have to keep the government going.
How do you have these people working and not get
paid those that are never going to get paid. The
President is talking about he has to furlough jobs and
I mean literally just lay him off. Which way is

(12:35):
it going to go? Well, what's more important? And now
it's a question of your philosophical view on this. Frankly,
I think that it is more important to have someone
insured than it is the border issue, because I don't think,
let's say I don't have insurance is my job being taken.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Away by an illegal alien? Not really.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know that many people have lost their jobs.
If I can't get insurance, that affects me big time.
So we'll see what happens. It just keeps on going.
Now you're going to hear something about the Insurrection Act
and it's just a weird It's not weird, but it
is part of the US government and it was put

(13:21):
into place in seventeen ninety two, just when the US
was created. And it has to do with if there
is an open rebellion against the United States, the President
has the right to invoke the Insurrection Act if there is,

(13:42):
you know, a well insurrection. I'm thinking about how else
to describe it. I have an over trying a group
of people trying to overturn the government riots. Now, it
has been used thirty times by a president, but you
it is used and virtually every time asked.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
For by a governor or a mayor.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Last time was in nineteen ninety two when the president
that's HWHW. Bush number one, was asked to call in
federal troops in Los Angeles because of the Rodney King riots.
Those were riots, I mean, that was no one argued
that that wasn't legitimate. Well, here's what the president is doing,

(14:29):
and nobody Well, of course, you know, it's no surprise.
But I don't think any other president would consider using
the Insurrection Act to deploy the military if the courts
prevent him from deploying the National Guard to protect federal
buildings and conduct law enforcement operations. So he has to
first declare and he is considering doing that that what's

(14:52):
happening in Portland, what's happening in Chicago, what's happening in
la a full blown rebellion against the United States. Stephen Miller,
white House Deputy chief of Staff, who is the author
of a lot of this stuff, says that it's illegal
insurrection when the ruling stifle the White House agenda. The

(15:16):
insurrection is the courts that in fact are rebelling against
the government of the United States, against the Constitution. Here's
the problem in terms of what we're experiencing. If you
are against the administration, you are against the Constitution. This
administration does not interpret the Constitution. This administration is the Constitution.

(15:43):
We are the Constitution of the United States. Therefore, if
you go against us, even saying something against us or
for God forbid, you have demonstrations and they're out of control,
and local law enforcement says, we can handle it. The
governor says we can handle it, and the President said no,

(16:03):
he declares an insurrection and therefore brings in the troops.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It is a tough one. And then of course it'll
go to court.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
And the position that the administration is taking is an
insurrection is what it's defined as. Whatever the President says
it is. If the President says it, it must be so.
And under constitutional authority, remember seventeen ninety two, the president
has the right to then bring in federal troops and

(16:38):
he decides, you know, I mean theoretically, Well, here's what
Portland is saying. The chief, the police chief of Portland
is saying.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
This quote, insurrection is one city block, that's what's going
on here.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And the President says, no, it's not. It's Portland, which
is a hell hole. Portland is on fire. Well, he's
describing Portland like Los Angeles during the Watts.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Riots, during the Rodney King.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Riots, where there is where there were thousands of people
out there all over the city and the city was burning.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
And I don't think anybody argued against that. And so
there's a federal judge and this one is absolutely hilarious.
I want to end with this.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
The federal judge who put a halt on it temporarily,
who say you can't go into Portland. You have to
stop at this point, although they're on their way, you
can't do it, is not a radical left wing judge.
Usually judges that rule against the administration are radical left

(17:45):
wing judges who should be impeached. This one is simply
a judge who has lost her way.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
And you know why she's a judge who has lost
her way because she's.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
A Trump appointee. And you can't have a Trump appointee
a radical left wing judge, because how does the president
put into place a radical left wing judge. So she
just lost her way. It's pretty scary stuff. Now, is
he going to do what he's considering doing it? He
said he's considering. If the courts go against him, then

(18:21):
he says he will, Well, he says he may. I
think he will, that's my opinion. But there's no question
that the president truly believes that insurrection is defined by
what he says it is.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
He defines what the Constitution is and as I said.
Bottom line is President Trump believes I am the Constitution
of the United States.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
My job is not.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
To enforce the law. My job is to enforce what
I think. The law is what I believe, and if
you are against me, then you are violating the Constitution.
January sixth rioters that was not a riot. Can't use
the word riot. You have to use the word patriots.

(19:13):
In overrunning the capital, the word is patriots. And of
course everybody was pardoned, you know, I mean, that's the
world we live in, and I'm having a you know,
obviously a lot of us having a tough.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Time, and a lot of us aren't.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
There are a lot of people who think that everything
the president is doing is absolutely wonderful and believe that
he is the Constitution that he embodies America, and those
of us who have some real problems, well we're traders.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Okay. Now we're going to get something really serious.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And we've been talking about insurrection and civil rights, but
now we're going to get really serious.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Parking.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
If you live in the city of Los Angeles, which
I used to but I'm still there all the time, parking,
we're talking about meter parking, We're talking about the money
you have to spend. It used to be you put
quarters in into meters and that would give you an hour.
Quite a while ago, and I always ran out of

(20:18):
quarters because, as I said this morning, I always used
my quarters.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Up at strip clubs, so I never had any.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
And then they went to credit cards, which is very
easy to do, and it is why because it's expensive now. Well,
the meter spaces, the prices haven't gone up in more
than a decade, so prices are going up fifty cents
for the most of the city's thirty five thousand spaces.
Right now, the prices are a dollar to eight fifty

(20:49):
per hour. That one I don't understand. My dollar goes
up to a buck fifty, and I think eight to
fifty goes up to nine dollars an hour. And why
are they doing that. It's a revenue call. That's actually
more than a revenue call. Because here is the argument
that's being made by the La City Transportation. It's a

(21:10):
win win situation. It gets more people moving around, it's
more expensive, so you're quicker to get in and out.
The businesses love it, and so you know it's a
good thing, right. I don't quite understand that. I do
find a business person. I understand it, but for the

(21:31):
most part, you know, it's it's a straight revenue call.
The city's going to get another fifteen million dollars. Have
you seen a meter maid any place in the last
bunch of years. I have not seen one of those
meter maids.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
They still go around those little carts that they have.
Amy you've just nodded you've seen meter maids.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, they're not necessarily in the little carts, so they
have little cars and it's their parting enforcement. They're everywhere.
Are they all named Rita?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I don't stop to ask.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh, okay, well, yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Here's an interesting factoid which I didn't know until I
started looking at this, and that is if you, let's
say you have a few minutes left and someone is
looking for the parking spot and you put in some money, uh,
to give them some extra time, do you know that's illegal?

(22:31):
You are not allowed to put in money to have
someone else take your spot.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
They have to pay for themselves.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Got stupid laws, right, You can't have a car full
of pickles on Sunday. You know those laws that were
passed at the turn of the last century. Just crazy stuff. Okay,
coming up, it's Rich Demurow and then a couple of
stories we I want to share with you your brain
or lack of them, and then a story about wild horses.

(23:03):
We have to do that song of course, and then
tomorrow and and we don't have the time. Can you
get that the ig Nobel Prizes, because this weeks matter
of fact, I think a prize was just handed out
from the Physics Prize for work in quantum physics, and
so all this week we are getting information on who's
going to get the various prizes, ending Friday with the

(23:26):
Peace Prize, that's the big one. Tomorrow we're gonna do
the ig Ig Nobel Prizes. It is one of the
funniest segments you are going to hear in a very
long time, almost to the point where you think this is.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
An SNL S get na. I couldn't be. It's true.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
And that's coming up tomorrow. This is kf I Am
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Speaker 3 (23:48):
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Speaker 2 (23:49):
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